Postmillennialism - Session 8 - Doug Wilson | Blueprints for Christendom 2.0 2024

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
  • Tune-in to Pastor Douglas Wilson at our 2024 Conference, Blueprints for Christendom 2.0 Conference.

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  • @JoRich653
    @JoRich653 2 місяці тому +10

    Though I am Amillenial in my eschatology, I am incredibly encouraged by this teaching. God bless Doug Wilson.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 3 дні тому

      Yeah I appreciate his call to action and optimism, although I see how he's interpreting some things in the light of his eschatology rather than interpreting his eschatology through scripture

  • @natedogg333_
    @natedogg333_ 2 місяці тому +19

    This was EPIC! Thank you Right Response for sharing this with everyone!

  • @KennethSee
    @KennethSee 2 місяці тому +8

    Water, Word, Bread, and Wine. Amen!

  • @too-girly
    @too-girly 2 місяці тому +10

    The very best teaching I've ever heard! I'm going to share it with everyone I know. Thank you.

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq Місяць тому

      The Most High gave us a pattern to learn by in His Word...
      The "6 Days" of creation is an object lesson in the foreshadowed reality that there will be "6,000 years" for mankind to labor/work upon the earth, on YHWH God's appointed timeline..
      ( Genesis 1 .. Exodus 20 : 9 ... Lev. 25 : 3 .. Matt 13 : 36 - 43.. 2 Peter 3 : 3 - 14 (-& notice v-8)
      .. And with God's "7th Day"/ 7th Millennial Day "Sabbath-rest" (Sabbitismos) for the saved-believers in Messiah to enter into at the 1st resurrection from the dead to the Throne of God.. THIS BEGINS THE 1,000 YEARS!
      (Gen 2 : 1 - 3 .. Exod 20 : 10 - 11..Lev 25 : 4 - 5 .. John 14 : 1- 6 .. 1 Thes 4 : 15 - 18 .. 1 Cor 15 : 20 - 23
      (1 Cor 15 : 51 - 54 .. Col 2 : 16 - 17 .. Rev 20 : 4 - 6 )
      * Rev 20 : 4 - 6
      "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
      But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
      This is the first resurrection.
      Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Therefore, "Postmillennialism" won't occur until AFTER ( or end of) The 7th Millennial Day, at the time of the "(2nd) resurrection of the dead to Judgment"( for just a short season), when the Saints return with Messiah to "inherit the earth" for the "8th Millennial Day"/ and eternal Jubilee, as foreshadowed by the Jubilee years and "The 'Great Day' Of The Feast Of Tabernacles"!
      (John 5 : 28 - 29 .. Lev. 23 : 36 .. Lev 25 : 9 - 13 .. Psalm 37 : 11.. Matt 5 : 5 .. Rev. 20 : 7 - 15 .. Rev 21 & 22 )

  • @enochsawit8420
    @enochsawit8420 2 місяці тому +3

    Glorious truth! Christ is Lord of all nations NOW! For 35 years I dabled in premillinial inconsistencies, 5 years ago the Lord graced me to see this Postmillennial hope and since that time I have watched the destruction that dispensationalism produces both spirituality & politically. Yet my Postmil hope convinces me that He will right his tilting ship, no.matter where they stand with eschatology for He will have dominion from sea to sea. He will build his church and hells gates will not prevail. As Doug has often said, "Thy Kingdom come, not thy Kingdom go!"

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq Місяць тому

      The Most High gave us a pattern to learn by in His Word...
      The "6 Days" of creation is an object lesson in the foreshadowed reality that there will be "6,000 years" for mankind to labor/work upon the earth, on YHWH God's appointed timeline..
      ( Genesis 1 .. Exodus 20 : 9 ... Lev. 25 : 3 .. Matt 13 : 36 - 43.. 2 Peter 3 : 3 - 14 (-& notice v-8)
      .. And with God's "7th Day"/ 7th Millennial Day "Sabbath-rest" (Sabbitismos) for the saved-believers in Messiah to enter into at the 1st resurrection from the dead to the Throne of God.. THIS BEGINS THE 1,000 YEARS!
      (Gen 2 : 1 - 3 .. Exod 20 : 10 - 11..Lev 25 : 4 - 5 .. John 14 : 1- 6 .. 1 Thes 4 : 15 - 18 .. 1 Cor 15 : 20 - 23
      (1 Cor 15 : 51 - 54 .. Col 2 : 16 - 17 .. Rev 20 : 4 - 6 )
      * Rev 20 : 4 - 6
      "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
      But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
      This is the first resurrection.
      Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Therefore, "Postmillennialism" won't occur until AFTER ( or end of) The 7th Millennial Day, at the time of the "(2nd) resurrection of the dead to Judgment"( for just a short season), when the Saints return with Messiah to "inherit the earth" for the "8th Millennial Day"/ and eternal Jubilee, as foreshadowed by the Jubilee years and "The 'Great Day' Of The Feast Of Tabernacles"!
      (John 5 : 28 - 29 .. Lev. 23 : 36 .. Lev 25 : 9 - 13 .. Psalm 37 : 11.. Matt 5 : 5 .. Rev. 20 : 7 - 15 .. Rev 21 & 22 )

  • @ryanbeaver6080
    @ryanbeaver6080 2 місяці тому +14

    Pastor Doug was truly given the gift of teaching. Thank you, and God bless you! 🙏

  • @Jay_the_giant
    @Jay_the_giant 2 місяці тому +3

    Based papa Doug

  • @jackuber7358
    @jackuber7358 2 місяці тому +5

    So, when is Canon Press partnering with 3:16 Publishing to produce the LSB Apostolic Study Bible--in Shamar goat skin, with 32 GSM paper, art guilding, and a full yap? I'll definitely buy one, especially if Pastors Doug, Toby, Jared, Ben, Joel, Aaron, and the rest of the team submit essays and pithy commentary drawn from all the right sources (e.g., Lewis, Dabney, Edwards). It would be something very sweet indeed.

    • @royalpriest89
      @royalpriest89 2 місяці тому

      Never since most of the guys you listed use the KJV and would not use a Bible using the corrupt NT the lsb uses.

    • @aallen5256
      @aallen5256 2 місяці тому

      you probably bought Trump's bible an all

  • @christophertaylor9100
    @christophertaylor9100 3 дні тому

    Then there is Preterism, which teaches that many of the predictions of the coming of Christ, particularly the "Day of the Lord" was Jesus coming in judgement on Jerusalem in AD 70

  • @tentoesdownchristianity
    @tentoesdownchristianity 2 місяці тому +3

    Boy this one has me fired up! We know the owner of everything.

  • @brucejs
    @brucejs 2 місяці тому +1

    Amen

  • @igamesaintsaintification1839
    @igamesaintsaintification1839 2 місяці тому +3

    Hey Doug, where is that Scripture that says Messiah will arrive post "planting of "churches"?

    • @luboshcamber1992
      @luboshcamber1992 2 місяці тому

      @igamesaintsaintification1839
      Nowhere and that doesn't bother him. This is the guy who wants to "grab Catholics by their baptism, wrote disgusting book called "Sally ride on", "counseled" and married convicted child abuser in his church which ended up in a disaster and list goes on. It shows how desperate Christians become in grasping any straw in the likeness of a man that gives them some hope instead fully holding to Christ... 😢

    • @michaelrameriz2723
      @michaelrameriz2723 2 місяці тому +1

      Revelation..

  • @matthewsheffer2014
    @matthewsheffer2014 2 місяці тому

    I can to the same conclusion about the rich man of Luke 16 being a brother in law Caiaphus and son of Annus. What is interest also is that Annus had one other son who served as Priest before Jesus gave this account, and his name was Eliezer, (Greek Lazarus) just like the name of the beggar. Apparently he did not die till around the time of the Jewish war and became known as a scribe. But I believe the audience knew he was targeting the priesthood, which being Sadducee, believed in soul sleep and denied the resurrection.

  • @TheReader6
    @TheReader6 2 місяці тому

    Can Doug make a link to his sermon notes here?

  • @cerickson5256
    @cerickson5256 2 місяці тому +6

    I'm confused at minute 30 where he starts talking about the kings of earth chaffing under Jesus rule and wanting to do something about it. I don't see that in the new testament. He wasn't a political ruler...wasn't it only the Jewish religious leaders who were truly concerned about Jesus influence?

    • @wishuhadmyname
      @wishuhadmyname 2 місяці тому

      Pilate wanted the status quo kept, and Jesus was disrupting that. Herod killed thousands? of baby boys to prevent a new king from replacing him. Jesus claimed to have all authority in heaven and on earth, a claim that put Him in political opposition to the concept of the Roman Emperors

    • @jefferyeubanks9833
      @jefferyeubanks9833 2 місяці тому +3

      Go to acts 4:24-28 it's those verses are quoted there as being about the crucifixion.

    • @cerickson5256
      @cerickson5256 2 місяці тому

      @@jefferyeubanks9833 Thanks

    • @ArcherWarhound
      @ArcherWarhound 2 місяці тому

      Oh no, the Roman were very concerned about the fact that Christians put Jesus over Caesar, that's why Paul was executed and Christians were persecuted by the Romans. Every worldly system wants to be the supreme power, when we say we'll obey God over them, they go insane.

  • @therealkillerb7643
    @therealkillerb7643 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant stuff!

  • @danny089-theodeoron4
    @danny089-theodeoron4 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Right Response Ministries for another encouraging video! I wanted to ask one question that has been haunting me recently a lot.
    As a Postmilenialist myself, i didn't used to believe in a literal antichrist figure coming before Jesus and tormenting the Church. But now considering the AI developments, and the incredible power this technology is giving the governments and private enterprises of the world, how can i still hold faith that The Antichrist is not a literal figure that will come to be and be empowered through some more developed form of AI?

    • @danny089-theodeoron4
      @danny089-theodeoron4 2 місяці тому

      I know i am late, but i'm seriously struggling with this, and despite many prayers, i need help to piece this dilemma together...

  • @KelsBradford
    @KelsBradford 2 місяці тому

    Can someone explain what Wilson means when he says after Jesus left the wilderness, he went to Canaan? What scripture is he referring to here?

    • @ionutsorinrusu7159
      @ionutsorinrusu7159 2 місяці тому +1

      Matthew 4:12ff

    • @KelsBradford
      @KelsBradford 2 місяці тому

      @@ionutsorinrusu7159 okay, are those cities mentioned considered Canaan? Sorry I’m genuinely unsure of what that means.

    • @ClaudioMonzeglio
      @ClaudioMonzeglio 3 дні тому

      @@KelsBradfordIsrael is Canaan

  • @Drshakababa
    @Drshakababa 2 місяці тому

    How do angels battle?

  • @ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439
    @ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439 2 місяці тому +1

    Dutch uncle ❤

  • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
    @ChrisTian-tz3eq Місяць тому

    The Most High gave us a pattern to learn by in His Word...
    The "6 Days" of creation is an object lesson in the foreshadowed reality that there will be "6,000 years" for mankind to labor/work upon the earth, on YHWH God's appointed timeline..
    ( Genesis 1 .. Exodus 20 : 9 ... Lev. 25 : 3 .. Matt 13 : 36 - 43.. 2 Peter 3 : 3 - 14 (-& notice v-8)
    .. And with God's "7th Day"/ 7th Millennial Day "Sabbath-rest" (Sabbitismos) for the saved-believers in Messiah to enter into at the 1st resurrection from the dead to the Throne of God.. THIS BEGINS *THE* 1,000 YEARS!
    (Gen 2 : 1 - 3 .. Exod 20 : 10 - 11..Lev 25 : 4 - 5 .. John 14 : 1- 6 .. 1 Thes 4 : 15 - 18 .. 1 Cor 15 : 20 - 23
    (1 Cor 15 : 51 - 54 .. Col 2 : 16 - 17 .. Rev 20 : 4 - 6 )
    * Rev 20 : 4 - 6
    "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
    This is the first resurrection.
    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
    Therefore, "Postmillennialism" won't occur until AFTER ( or end of) The 7th Millennial Day, at the time of the "(2nd) resurrection of Judgment"( for just a short season), when the Saints return with Messiah to "inherit the earth" for the "8th Millennial Day"/ and eternal Jubilee, as foreshadowed by the Jubilee years and "The 'Great Day' Of The Feast Of Tabernacles"!
    (John 5 : 28 - 29 .. Lev. 23 : 36 .. Lev 25 : 9 - 13 .. Psalm 37 : 11.. Matt 5 : 5 .. Rev. 20 : 7 - 15 .. Rev 21 & 22 )

  • @danielwarton5343
    @danielwarton5343 2 місяці тому +1

    I could highly recommend Abner Chou’s book on hermeneutics, he deals with the Hosea passage really well

  • @ryanhegseth8720
    @ryanhegseth8720 12 днів тому

    Is belsabaal a demon or a fallen angel, you said both but they are NOT the same.

  • @Project1643.
    @Project1643. 2 місяці тому

    Sounds like the church of Jeroboam.

  • @johnp8432
    @johnp8432 2 місяці тому +2

    At one point in this video Doug, unable to help himself as he opens up the Word of God, exclaims "Oh, there;'s so many wonderful things!"... Well, on an infinitely smaller scale of course, I offer the same exclamation as my quick review of this talk.

  • @spitfireap77
    @spitfireap77 2 місяці тому +7

    Man, the postmillennialists are gonna be surprised. But it'll be good, so it'll be a good surprise.

  • @marshalllucky7020
    @marshalllucky7020 2 місяці тому +1

    Jesus is King
    Jesus Ascended to the Throne Room
    His Kingdom is now, growing from a mustard seed to an Oak
    Anything else is doctrine of demons

  • @paveli1181
    @paveli1181 2 місяці тому +1

    Postmil = we are living after millenium. Kings used to kiss the ring, but have since rebelled.

    • @andrewgd1858
      @andrewgd1858 2 місяці тому

      Yes, definitely living in the post-millennium.

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq Місяць тому

      After "What" millennium on the biblical timeline?...

    • @paveli1181
      @paveli1181 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisTian-tz3eq first millenium of church history. What the world commonly refers to as the "dark ages".

    • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
      @ChrisTian-tz3eq Місяць тому

      @@paveli1181 .. So, Satan was "bound" in a pit, and wasn't able to deceive any of the nations, during that first millennium of Church history? (Rev, 20)...
      If there was no - Satan around to deceive.. then why were there so many "deceptions", even considered as "heresies", during the 1st millennium, and even warned of prior, by Jesus Christ & His Disciples/Apostles? ..
      Matt 24
      Acts 20 : 29 - 31
      2 peter 3 : 15 - 17
      Jude 1 : 4
      Rev. 2 & 3

    • @paveli1181
      @paveli1181 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisTian-tz3eq there are other spirits and demons. His kingdom was weakened and in disarray as Christianity expanded. Many kings swore allegiance to Christ in the known world.

  • @Zxuma
    @Zxuma 2 місяці тому +2

    Are we doing typology for biblical literary appreciation now?
    Next: Numerology!

  • @luboshcamber1992
    @luboshcamber1992 2 місяці тому +3

    Yeah. Keep the delusion until it will be untenable. Anyone can see how we're getting better 👍👌👍

  • @Pastor_Grant
    @Pastor_Grant 2 місяці тому +26

    Would love to be Post-Mil but I can't buy into preterism, the idea Armageddon happened already in 70 AD is too big of a stretch

    • @michaelhannigan5159
      @michaelhannigan5159 2 місяці тому +40

      I thought it was a stretch as well, but it was just all my presuppositions of what I have been taught as a premil dispi. It’s really hard to lay aside your presuppositions and study it at face value, but I encourage you to do so because when done, it is so clear, and so glorious. If not, then at least you know why you believe what you believe!

    • @hammerbarca6
      @hammerbarca6 2 місяці тому

      I’m a post mil but still think there will be a release of Satan at the end of the millennium and a rebellion which will quickly get squashed 👍

    • @GRW2
      @GRW2 2 місяці тому +18

      I was right there with you. It was a thorough study of the Old Testament and the prophets that totally changed my worldview. Now I see it everywhere and it's seemingly unavoidable. The change happened without me really even realizing it. 😂

    • @evantheorthodox740
      @evantheorthodox740 2 місяці тому +16

      Keep in mind that the book of Revelation is covenantal,,,, the covenant breakers are about to taste the wrath of God. Also, John is in the tribulation with the 7 churches, and these things he is writing about are to happen "soon." Presupposing that God can tell time, that unlike the Daniel prophecy, this one was NOT to be sealed up because the time was "near;" presupposing that this book was absolutely relevant to its original audience, the audience who knew who the 6th Caesar was who was currently on the throne, and the fact that we have a temple still standing where people are worshiping, it is not far fetched to read it as a coming in judgment, using OT language, on those who broke the covenant by rejecting the Messiah. For me a key book was the dating of the book of Revelation by Gentry, "Before Jerusalem Fell", whose scholarship convinced the great R.C. Sproul, Wilson, among others of the proper dating of the book. It is a must read if one wants to put the book into historical context, and not speculative.

    • @CHRISTSlave7
      @CHRISTSlave7 2 місяці тому +7

      "Armageddon" is not what We run around Proclaiming -i've actually never heard a Postmol Brither claim that. But, We do claim that YESHUA Is Not a False Prophet and that "this [HIS] generation wouldn't pass away till all those things took place"! ¿What Do You do with Matthew 24‽ (and Parallels; but, let's just deal with that 1)?

  • @scottcamp9266
    @scottcamp9266 2 місяці тому

    Ramblings😂

  • @Zxuma
    @Zxuma 2 місяці тому

    Say what, Doug!!! Jesus is Israel doing it right? What that!!!!😆😮😂
    Inference!

    • @nando7522
      @nando7522 2 місяці тому +7

      Calm down friend. Step away from the keyboard and come back when you can formulate a coherent question or argument.

  • @biblicaltheologyexegesisan9024
    @biblicaltheologyexegesisan9024 2 місяці тому +5

    Total theological kooks

  • @th3ist
    @th3ist 2 місяці тому +1

    So how many biological, robotics and AI engineers do u have working towards christs kingdom? Any future kingdom has all these elements. If you are not pursuing these disciplines you are building villages not kingdoms and ironically will be left behind

  • @biblicaltheologyexegesisan9024
    @biblicaltheologyexegesisan9024 2 місяці тому +2

    blue prints for fantasyland

  • @eugenejoseph7076
    @eugenejoseph7076 2 місяці тому +5

    Why does anyone actually believe this non sense. These so-called preachers actually teach that the church will 'get the earth ready' for the Second Coming of Christ! Think about that for a few seconds. If you follow through on this doctrine, though they may not admit it, but this makes man the architect for the second coming not the Father. This heretical false doctrines are wicked and place MAN in the center of everything!!!

    • @enochsawit8420
      @enochsawit8420 2 місяці тому

      We believe because Christ has graced us to believe & opened our eyes by his Spirit to his glorious Word.

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 2 місяці тому +2

      God uses instruments. Men are instruments. Paul was an instrument. God uses foolishness to confound the wise. Just because a position contradicts what you happen to have been taught does not make it harmful, false, or heretical. John the Baptist was a man, by the way. Does that make the belief that John the Baptist was making way for the Christ heretical and man-centered?

    • @KelsBradford
      @KelsBradford 2 місяці тому

      All of scripture is evidence of man being used by God as instruments making way for the coming messiah. It is not heresy to believe that God uses men today just as he did back then.

    • @eugenejoseph7076
      @eugenejoseph7076 2 місяці тому

      @@ethanmulvihill7177 whatever

    • @eugenejoseph7076
      @eugenejoseph7076 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KelsBradford ok, then! That clears everything up, duh!?

  • @grantguidroz7640
    @grantguidroz7640 2 місяці тому +1

    Postmill: where the bride gets the kingdom ready before the king returns 🤦
    Should be concentrating on consecrating and willing souls not political power
    “The Bride maketh herself ready”

    • @psalm2764
      @psalm2764 2 місяці тому

      The bride of satan is making herself ready. He is coming soon (2 Thess 2). He is the god of Esau, "moshiach" and the rest of the serpent worshippers.

  • @HermeneuticsMatter
    @HermeneuticsMatter 2 місяці тому +2

    Unbiblical nonsense

  • @grantguidroz7640
    @grantguidroz7640 2 місяці тому

    “Right response” is fitting name for Christina nationalism preacher
    Which is a reaction to postmodernist revolution, like fascism was to communism 🤦
    Fueled by postmill/preterism

  • @Mymothersbasementministry
    @Mymothersbasementministry 2 місяці тому +3

    Doug seems like a nice guy and a good conversationalist. But his ideas about post millenniumism are Pathetic and only sound plausible in a safe space echo chamber. How often do these post millennialist repeat the same points and refuse to acknowledge the glaring problem passages against post millennialists? It would be nice and easier to believe all I had to do was go tell people to obey God and expect they would be obedient. If postmilleniast really have jedi power to get people to believe and obey everything the bible says why is the world going from bad to worse? Why do these Jedi have to convince themselves and other Christians they have this super power to command people to repent and obey immediately cant they just demonstrate this power rather than sit in cirlcles and convince themselves that they should hypothetically have this ability?

    • @johnholmes8760
      @johnholmes8760 2 місяці тому +2

      There pathetic unless you believe the Gospel MT 28, disciple all nations..

    • @Mymothersbasementministry
      @Mymothersbasementministry 2 місяці тому

      @@johnholmes8760 I’m glad you brought that abracadabra postmillennial interpretation of that verse. If that were true, why would in the rest of the New testament, the writers, warn of false teachers creeping in, & even going from bad to worse. If the postmillennial interpretation of Matthew 28 was true, that Christians could just preach the gospel & abracadabra people would start obeying the world over, why would the authors warn of false teachers going from bad to worse? It’s nonsensical.

    • @Mymothersbasementministry
      @Mymothersbasementministry 2 місяці тому

      @@johnholmes8760 ua-cam.com/video/ga1nHNmYQ0U/v-deo.htmlsi=4_gVUI7jxR56w7JI

    • @ethanmulvihill7177
      @ethanmulvihill7177 2 місяці тому

      I'd suggest you actually hear their interpretation of the passages instead of calling them "glaring." After having heard their teaching for a while the "glaring" issues are all the problem passages for premillennial dispensationalists that I didn't even know existed. Reading Old Testament prophets while holding to this position is (get this) actually coherent!

    • @Mymothersbasementministry
      @Mymothersbasementministry 2 місяці тому

      @@ethanmulvihill7177Rather than go back & forth about how glaring the verses are, I can just list them & you can tell me how it’s not glaring. The first one is
      “Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? And you know what restrains him now, so that he will be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is removed. Then that lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will eliminate with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not accept the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.”
      ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬-‭12‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬
      bible.com/bible/2692/2th.2.1-11.NASB2020
      If Jesus comes back at a point where there’s been a great falling away (apostasy) a man of lawlessness deceiving the world that he is god, & great deception, how do postmillennialist get every to obey all that Jesus commands & then Jesus returns, when it’s clear that the vast majority of the people are disobeying Jesus when he returns?