Chevy REFUSES To Fix My ZR2 Engine Over *VOIDED* WARRANTY?!?
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Just because you called ford and ram and over the phone they said yea we will take care of the issue means nothing it’s a stealer ship just like the Chevy dealer you went to they just want you to bring the truck in so they can look at it for a week and tell you it’s your problem and you have to pay for it ford and ram will do the same exact thing as the Chevy dealer.
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@@garycavanaugh1877 🤣🤣
I used to be a chevy tech. Warranty covers defects in gm's materials and workmanship. In order to deny a warranty we have to prove that the modifications directly caused the issue at hand. I can certainly tell you that the tires, wheels, exhaust, will not cause a lifter issue. Go through chevy customer service and have them set up the repairs. The problem is the dealership you took it too is worried about bouncing the claim.
Took the words out of my mouth.
He is right! Keep fighting Bobby!
Yep your so right. That dealership sucks.
Ford dealers are the same, but it's only if you get a good one, some are like this and won't cover anything if you so much as change emblems on it... but it's all covered under warranty, unless it can be proven. Exhaust is unlikely, especially if it's an axle back.
Exactly correct. Some dealers just don't want the headache from dealing with anything modified (even in the slightest) due to a bad wrap on certain mods customers do to their vehicles. I do think that, if his ZR2 is going to stay for the long haul, that he sends it over to LMR for a nice heads/cam package with a trans mod for him to take care of the 6.2L valve and lifter issue permanently and pick up more power. But that's worst case scenario in that GM won't cover his repairs from a factory perspective. Having a nice choppy ZR2 on the channel would probably get more views to say the least. Besides, LMR does cover their work done to the vehicles they upgrade.
I'd say take it to a further level with the dealership. Get GM involved and get that dealership fined
Prime example happened recently, Mike's pulley went bad on his TRX, which is also "lightly modified" and off-roaded, and RAM covered it for him no questions asked.
He’s also spent a few hundred thousand dollars at that dealer too. Even if they did his repairs outta pocket they’d still be ahead
@@MintMonte87ACSS312 he actually bought the trx at a different dealer from where he gets it serviced at
My valve cover gasket was leaking on my bone stock 2017 Rav4, and the dealership wouldn't fix it. They all suck now... it's 2022 and this is the new normal
It’s not the dealer.
I had an issue with my Colorado ZR2 Bison.
The dealer said the warranty was void because I drove it in mud (!!??!).
It was on a public road, I wasn’t even off roading.
I contacted GM and they were dreadful.
They didn’t get back to me at all, despite chasing and chasing.
Eventually they told me that they wouldn’t honor the warranty but refused to directly say why, or put their answer in writing.
It is clearly their policy to delay and be as awkward as possible, on the principle that most customers will eventually give up.
I explained the circumstances to my local Ford dealer who said that Ford would 100% definitely cover a car in the same circumstances.
I sold the ZR2 and bought a Bronco.
Definitely going to need the warranty on the bronco.
@@APatchworkCanvas you spelled Escape wrong, lolz.
Duncan, I hope you enjoy your Escape in mens clothing.
If not he issue was noticed on the test drive O would have not went through with the purchase. If something does not feel right from the start I stay away from it even if it is brand new. I have never had any issues with Chevy. Always have had excellent customer service.
Yeah that blows my mind that he bought it after feeling the stuttering in the test drive lol
What the dealership told you is illegal. They're legally required to prove that the modifications you made and how you used the truck had a direct contribution to the failure you're trying to fix under warranty before they void it.
Yup! This! In violation of federal law if they don’t cover for the reasons they say. SCOTUS even ruled on it.
Prove to who the customer, that is for a court. In his own video he said there was a little stumble when he test drove it but no dyeing or miss firing, he said a little stumble. Which by the way it looks bad why would somebody modify a improperly running vehicle, you would have it fixed first. His problems did not surface until he modified it, proof is in the pudding! He could put the OEM exhaust back on and see if the problem persists, then maybe yes. Next question will be was the break in procedure followed if not than another strike.
@@matthewgillies6936 a modified exhaust won't cause your lifters to go bad. All it does is make the truck louder. Even if you were right, the dealership has to definitively prove that the exhaust caused the lifter issue before they deny the warranty claim. It's the law. If they don't, then Bobby has the ability to sue them. Considering bad lifters is a known issue with the 6.2L V8, the exhaust had nothing to do with it.
As for why he modified it before he got it fixed, two reasons:
1. He was told the problem would go away on its own, so he thought the truck was fine.
2. Us gearheads can't leave anything alone. If we own it, it's getting modified. No ifs ands or buts about it. If we're not modifying our vehicles, we're thinking about what mods we wanna do next.
You really don’t know how the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act actually works in real life.
@@matthewgaines10 People also do not realize why the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act was created. They act like it was created so people could run aftermarket performance parts and the dealers would have to prove there parts caused any failure.
That’s frustrating. Lifters are a widespread and well known issue in the new GM V8s. This should be a no questions asked repair under warranty. Exhaust and tires have nothing to do with the DFM lifters going bad.
I think they might be nervous about taking care of the repair since it'll most likely find its way to YT for all of us to view. We all know the lifter issue with the 6.2L, no stranger to it myself, modified or fully stock, this should be a "non issue" by GM to take care of.
Although it is mis diagnosed and not lifter failure. When the lifters fail on these trucks they will have an audible knock. If he was actually worried about his truck getting fixed he would look at my comment above. The TSB I mentioned is for surging under light throttle. It is more than like a failed magnet that controls the cam phaser.
I agree. Has nothing to do with it and can’t cause issues. I’ve been fortunate with my 22 trail boss. 22k miles and solid.
@@TheWolfMatt not even a 6.2 problem. It’s any displacement on demand gm truck engine. I’ve replaced many stuck lifters on these engines. The worst part is GM is fully aware, but doesn’t care.
@@garrettsmith7244 I’ve never heard a knock from failed lifters on these engines, ticking and tapping, yes.
Keep after them, this isn’t the final word… that said I’d never buy a vehicle that was stuttering and having problems during the test drive
I'd have left that junk sitting on the lot...🐃💩like this is why I left Chevrolet 30 years...never had an issue with the old GM muscle cars, but I never had any luck with a GM truck...after being drug home by my neighbors Ford, I bought one and never looked back...no, I'm not a brand loyalist, but I insist on reliability...Ram has a couple of cool trucks and GM has good looking trucks...that being said, I ain't never walked home because of any of my Ford trucks leaving me stranded...
@@sykwookiee especially for $80k…
@@sykwookiee fuck these new sissy trucks, I’ll stick with my old W100 or my pop’s Willy’s pickup. Both have always gotten me home.
This is a teachable moment:
1. Don’t believe a salesman
2. New vehicles don’t sound like trash until they are “broken in”
3. Don’t take delivery on a vehicle that has demonstrated drivability issues.
4. Don’t mod a vehicle with unresolved drivability issues.
5. If the dealer, not the manufacturer rejects a warranty issue, go to another dealer.
The buyer made a lot of unforced errors.
Also, don’t buy the first gen of anything.
So true! A salesman is not a mechanic and usually has no idea how cars work. They will blame ANY issue on break in. There is no such thing as break in period any more, with the exception of suspension alignment during the first 500 miles of the car.
While going to another dealer is not a bad option, usually if one dealer declined the repair, they'll put it online, so that all dealerships are aware. Your better option is to ask the dealer which declined it, or the second dealership to escalate it and get their dealer Rep involve, or call the customer assistance people and ask them to provide help and get the Dealer Rep involved
@@willpina
Dealerships are like snowflakes. Each is different. One won't touch a car with mods while another will work on the same car up to the limits. Some will even advise removing easy to remove mods before bringing it in for a major issue.
@@matthewgaines10 the problem with dealerships now, specially GM, is that if one dealer works on a modified vehicle without noting it down, and then another dealership flags it as a modified vehicle and gets it blocked, then the first dealership could get back flagged for the repairs they did. That's why dealership are very cautious now, specially if they didn't sell the vehicle
@@matthewgaines10 of course, you are 100% correct. It really depends on the dealership
Time to lawyer up. By law they have to prove the modifications directly caused the problem. In this case you have your videos describing the problem right after you got it so there can be no doubt nothing you did caused it. I can understand the ABS wire issue with the Colorado. While the damage occurred due to a bad design, they couldn't prove it was from the part actually being damaged, not a defective part. Driving through brush like you did isn't exactly something that normally occurs while off-roading. I still think the argument that it could just as easily have happened on a construction sight or whatever because they designed it with the wire hanging down in harms way but at least they have some argument for it. With the Silverado there's no way anything you've done could have damaged the lifters even if you didn't have evidence it's been a problem since day one. By admitting there is a problem and saying they won't repair it under warranty they are violating federal law.
Just he can just make him take it back as a lemon if you want to 5.3L whatever the 6.2L he has is defective he's pretty well explained that like you said the guy that sold it to him felt that way during the test drive.
I know you can't get another ZR2 package because that's 6.2L only but if you want to 5.3L or 6.0L or a six-cylinder model for my Chevy giving the money back completely and get a Ford or a Dodge Ram or a Toyota Tacoma or Tundra trucks of lemon.
"Trucks of lemon"
@Coyote Car Reviews please comment in on what I actually said about the truck being a lemon and the dealership not wanting to fix his truck can you please comment to Bobby that that's the situation he's in or if you ain't know anyone except your GMC help him. 👍
Also I don't care about punctuation and grammar just trying to help the brother out. 😀 👍
So in your opinion should his future brother-in-law have to pay to fix the truck or Bobby's father or the company that sold on the defective truck so lemon yes. 😀👍
@Coyote Car Reviews Do you care about the person whose video you watched and the situation he's in.
I'm not sure if you do since you're saying this to me but not something to him to help the man out.
@@EDV8ZR1 Lemon law requires they declare they can't fix it after a number of tries and buy it back. It will not apply here.
@@nobodynoone2500 other people have stated the 6.2 L are known to be defective so I feel it is a required to be replaced or refunded but if not his problem any other suggestions if you don't believe he could get out of it that way.
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I hope you get the Silverado ZR2 engine issues sorted before the trip. Try bringing it to Whitmoyer. As to the possibility of a Colorado ZR2 giveaway, I'd be on that like a pack of dogs on a 3 legged cat. 😁
Bring to a different dealership, mine covered me with a lift, tires CAI and wheels. no issues at all. They can’t deny a warranty for items not associated with the item that is failing, wheels tires exhaust does not hurt the lifters. Check out the lawsuit warranty , can’t recall the actual name of lawsuit.
Magnuson-moss warranty act
@@06330i Correct.
2020 Trail Boss owner here. Driver side mirror shakes and rattles above 65mph can’t even look at it w/o getting a headache. Dealer took it above 65mph and confirmed the shaking on the driver side mirror while the passenger side mirror sits perfectly still. Service manager states AVS lightshield on hood is the reason. They agreed to and replaced actuator on the driver side mirror with the lightshield installed. Got the truck back and the driver side mirror still shakes just as much. Dealer told me I needed to remove the lightshield before they could service the driver side mirror any further…
Heck my 2010 Chevrolet Impala is 12 years old and it's more reliable than a new Silverado. Awesome vid btw
I daily a 41 year old jeep. I make it to work everyday, better yet if it breaks all i need is a small toolbox about the size of a small cooler and half a brain and i can fix it. Yes it has broken, no its never left me stranded, even when i dropped a driveshaft i uninstalled it, and drove it home on the front wheels (4wd)
I have a 2019 grand Cherokee and I’ve had so much warranty work done you might consider my car a lemon. I have done wheels, tires, lift, and even some engine mods such as a bigger throttle body, intake, and coil packs. Every time I have an issue they have covered it under the warranty and I’m at 52k miles
What kind of work have they done to it?
@@RV-tm1zr if it’s a 5.7 hemi, it’s probably had the cam and lifters done. Hemis have oil pressure issues at idle, it shreds the cam.
And this is why I moved away from my chevy and ford. I just got so tired of fighting with the company and dealerships. It felt like I was dealing with lawyers not people. They worked harder in finding a way out of fixing my trucks then just fixing it and having a happy customer. A happy customer is a repeat customer.
What brand you drive now?
@@canalesivany I got a Ram but after two years the transmission went out so in 2015 I got a Tundra 5.7 crewmax with tow package. I still have it with 109,000 on her and no problems. I’m liking this Toyota thing except the mpg isn’t so hot. 17 highway and 8 or 10 towing.
@@Bunkysworkshop ram is bad too, Toyota here too!
@@canalesivany We’ve been impressed with Toyota for a couple of years now. The other car is a Toyota RAV4 with 162,000 and still going strong. Toyota seems to be making some quality vehicles.
@@Bunkysworkshop my uncle 3rd gen Tacoma have 200k miles cero problems!
Had the same issue with my ‘21 6.2 z71 . Lifter issues at 8k miles and then spun a main bearing at 11k miles . Gm agreed to a full rebuild of the engine .
You let them rebuild a brand new engin that spun a bearing?!? You now have a new truck with odd sized bearings, I wouldn’t accept that as a remedy.
I would not buy a new GM product at this time. Something has gone wrong with GM if they don’t fix it my next vehicle will be another brand.
Yup. Required subscription to on-star that costs 3K every 3 years? No thank you!
yes.. lifter issues since 2007 with the 5.3s.... I have a 2011 GMC with the 5.3 with 350K miles and it barely had lifter collapsed lifter.. $2.5k issued was fixed. Runs like a champ..
Stop supporting a company that doesn't stand behind thier product and what it was built for.
This is a fear of mine. I currently have 2 motorcycles and 1 truck under factory warranties. I love doing big and small mods on my vehicles. But I cannot imagine spending time and money modding a new vehicle before having the dealer address the warranty claim that you say was noticed since the very first test drive.
Check out magnussen warranty lawsuit, not sure on spelling? But they can’t void your warranty for an aftermarket item installed that is not directly related to the issue that is law.
As many others have said here, take it to another dealer. Had an issue with a dealer here, brake sensor warning light came on with lots of meat left on the pads (dealer confirmed 7mm) instead of fixing it the 3 times I brought it in for, called it an anomaly.
Toon to another dealer, did software update, didn’t fix, then they replaced wear sensors and it was good to go.
Overall some dealers are not as supportive as others, don’t be afraid by there words and get a second opinion.
You gotta give the Rangers and F150 / Raptors a shot man. You will not be disappointed
Look up Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. I'd also possibly lawyer up. These issues have definitely made me look to other manufactures for my buying decisions.
This is 100% correct and was the exact comment I came on here to post.
@@JDONUMBER7 I've fought and won a claim before. Only cost about $500 in lawyers fees but that was years ago.
I added the Pulsar LT to my truck. No more dynamic fuel crap to deal with. It also keeps the start stop crap too.
As others have said Chevy should have to cover your truck. I modified my Camaro a few years back with larger wheels and tires the rear blew up. Took it back and they covered it with no problems. Either call Chevy or go to another dealership that will do their job and honor the warranty.
That's why i converted to Ford about 10 years ago and love it
Dump it, buy a 94 k1500and rebuild it mechanicaly. It will last longer than any newer truck and it actually uses a key 😂
Maybe if enough of us keep commenting to buy an older truck he’ll do it…. I think he’d be surprised how many views he’ll get. I’ve almost 10k views on my 94 C2500 ac charge. People love the OBS content.
That's exactly what I just did. I got a 94 Suburban to work on.
Damn right
Shhhh don't tell people that.
Tell them to buy new.
Leave the old gems to us 😉
What are y’all, sperm? Since when is ‘94 old? Get something 70’s and have it till you die. My 73 power wagon has never stranded me. Hell, the old 318 got me home when a failed lifter wiped the cam, I just unplugged the plug wire from #4 and drove it home. I put a carbed 5.9 magnum in it, it’ll be running for my kids after I’m gone.
When I had my Jeep JK, I blew up the power steering pump being stuck in the mud. I sheepishly took it in to them and they covered it under warranty with NO QUESTIONS. I went to pick it up and the service manager says to me "Looks like while you were out there, you bashed your transmission pan on something. It was cracked and leaking. We replaced that one for you too under warranty." This thing was lifted, on 35s, aftermarket bumpers, winch, lights, radio, etc. tree scratches all down the sides of it, sliders all used hard underneath. They never gave me even a hint of trouble about warranty work or service. I am not all love for that Wrangler or Jeep as a whole, but I certainly can't complain about that level of service.
Thats so frustrating! From my experience chevy has shitty warranty, I've had issues and some friends have had issues with coverage as well with bone stock trucks. I've had similar issues with my dodge as well after I had exhaust and stuff. And then ford covered mine from a faulty sensor even though I had way more mods on my truck :p
Thank you for this video. I was looking at the Silverado, I like the truck. But my thing isn't the issues you're having, it's chevy's commitment to their customers. Because of this "who don't it" attitude from Chevy, I won't buy another one! Light mods should never void warranty if the engine wasn't touched. The other reason I'm not buying another Chevy is because of an exhaust void the warranty, that vehicle was not built well to begin with. Thank you again because I would have done the same mods.
Just go to a different dealer. I had warrenty issues with my colorado zr2. One dealer said absolutely wouldn't cover and the other one said no problem
My 2022 Silverado ZR2 engine died after 700km's. My dealership has now had my truck for 7 weeks and still no word what is happening. I've asked for a refund from the dealership and from GM over and over and they keep saying someone is looking into it. This has been the most frustrating experience of all time and I've purchased 5 vehicles from this dealer in the past 10 years.
Sometimes I think dealerships do that because they simply don't want to work on it. I don't know of I would stick with gm after this issue. If you get to talk to gm not just the dealership and they say it's covered id tell gm that the dealership you took it to says it's not covered
In South Carolina is having the same problem with the 6.2 and they say it’s thing you where saying. And the they would fix it. Your where right about what you said
At the time I purchased my new truck I had considered the Colorado over the Tacoma and ranger. I ended up going for the Tacoma and after 30 months I've never had a single problem with the truck. It's just comical to be having those kinds of problems at such low miles.
Congrats you now have a half size pickup truck that can't really pull shit and has zero room inside the cab lol
@@Theosescapades perfect for me now nobody gotta ask to borrow my truck to tow something and I don't gotta taxi people around , absolutely perfect.
Same here. Our Chevy Malibu was complete junk. Sold it, got the wife an Acura. No problems so far. Then older Monte Carlo trans crapped on me at 130,000. Needed a truck and wanted something that lasts. Bought a Tacoma, love this truck. 21,000 miles on it and no problems so far.
Yea Tacomas are one of the best trucks around. I abused the hell outnof mine and it still kept going and going.
@@icantsaywhat my brother has beaten the dogshit out of his ‘98 taco, it’s a glutton for punishment. That 5vz is indestructible.
I went with a 3.0 diesel in my high country. Had a 21 ltz that didn’t the fuel management system that cut cylinders but was also a 5.3. Gas mileage sucked as to why I bought the diesel. Things happen when too many electronics control anything. Exhaust doesn’t void warranty. I did it on a 2007 Chevrolet at 500 miles and they said do it and bring it by to let us hear. No void
Bring it to a different dealer and I’d avoid that dealership like the plague in the future.
I had a lift kit, bigger tires, programmer etc on a ram and they still covered stuff under warranty. I even buried in mud pit and did quick pressure wash day before went in one time.
But did u have it on video
Man that sucks for you. I'm surprised that you are still so loyal to Chevy with so many issues with them. I used to be die hard GMC and had 6 over the yrs. Had a motor go out at 64k miles and had to replace. Moved to Ford F150 and haven't looked back. Forget brands, just drive what you like best unless they sponsor you. No reason to be loyal when you are just $$ to them!
He said he had warranty work denied on two trucks. Idk how anyone could stay loyal to a brand if they treat you that poorly.
Chris, you better hope you don’t have the well known hydro boost problems, or the turbo manifold issues the egoboost trucks can have. They’re fun as hell to drive, but expensive to fix.
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 🤞 nothing major yet. I bought brand new in 13 and just clicked over 130k miles this week. Overall been a really solid truck and hope it continues since I can't afford a new one!! The next will be a F250 Powerstroke and they are stupid expensive right now!
Hearing this makes me not want to buy a new Chevy, the fact that it's having any trouble at all with barely any miles is crazy to me! Then the price that the dealership charges for repairs is mind blowing! Good luck getting this figured out hopefully Chevy will do the right thing and cover it!
It’s simple don’t ever buy a Chevy buy a Ford Toyota etc just not any gm products
What a joke. Exhaust and wheels and tires doesn’t even affect the engine lol. Good luck, I know how frustrating that is
Exhaust and wheels don't affect the engine? Yeah, you're a real automotive engineer.
Bigger tires + more rolling mass= engine works harder. Exhaust changes how a engine breaths. But ok master tech.
@@kevinmeldrum1 Dude, we’re talking small changes here. An exhaust isn’t going to cause that much of a difference. Just let’s it breathe better. Sure wheels make the engine work a little harder, but no harder than towing evan a small load?
@@brandondarnes3699 I agree, but it's still a change. The dealership is treating a customer poorly, and they should repair his truck. But they will use the tires and exhaust against him. Which is BS.
Look up the Magnuson Moss act. It basically says that the manufacturer has to prove your mods cause the failure to deny coverage. My 2021 1500 5.3 had cat back exhaust and 2 intake mods and was covered by warranty when my lifters failed, they replaced all the lifters on the right bank.
Dammit bobby, ive been considering getting one of these and this is making me second think myself 😅
I’ve been screwed on 2 ZR2 Colorado’s and a trail boss. I now have an f150 Tremor. I too like GM but they are f’ers.
My 5.3 threw the Lifters at 11k miles and they had it fixed in 2 days at my local Chevy Dealership and the truck already had an exhaust and different wheel/tire setup. Just sounds like they’re not wanting to eat the cost of parts and labor
What's sad is GM pays for it. Doesn't even come out of dealers pocket.
I had a friend who has a older 6.2 that gave him lifter problems It was out of warranty he took it to a mechanic replace it with aftermarket lifters never gave a problem againAfter many more miles hope you luck
I would love to win the colorado!! Good luck with the ZR2
I left chevy and went to toyota got a 2021 trd pro tundra and i love it. Got tired of having problems with chevy.
I just purchased a 2022 chevy as well, it's getting a 6" lift installed in 2 days. Makes me nervous they are trying to get out of fixing a known lifter issue in these trucks.
It’s been a known problem for over ten years. Why anyone buys gm these days is beyond me. Their small overhead cam engines love to chew cams and load the material into vvt solenoids.
Got a 2021 gmc. Lifters on one side failed at 13000 miles. No mods. Gm fixed under warranty, Just waiting for the other side to lock up.
most of the trucks they sell either have transmission issues or lifter issue's.......I would imagine dealers are being pressured by GM to find reasons to void warranties for these issues.
Did you ask Beaver if he could help? I can't imagine that you wouldn't ask him. What did his dealership say?
I have had 6 of the 6.2ls and never had an issue. My 2022 is by far my favorite with the 10spd. But reach out to your regional dealer rep and work with them....and inwould warn people about what local dealership is doing you dirty! To many bad dealerships out there!
Had a 2018 jeep jk that steering went out on at 4800 miles. Dealer stated "jeeps weren't designed to have those "big" tires on them." They were 35s, like the others that were brand new being sold on their lot. After researching, they found out, jeep steering box went out, on a test drive at 38 miles. I bought it with 75 miles. Jeep changed pump first time, leaving all the metal shavings to continue to fliw thru system. Idiots finally replaced pump, reservoir, and lines. Amazing the b.s. they try to come up with
"Chevy refuses to fix my truck but I'm still going to stick with them even tho their shit trucks keep breaking on me" is basically what I heard..... No offense Bobby but do you hear how stupid that sounds? I know my opinion doesn't matter to you and you will do what you want, which is fine, you should, but I think you need to switch to Ford or Dodge, at least give it a try. After that if you still choose Chevy, at least you can say you gave the others a shot and know what is best for you.
True he should try
It feels like all of this is made up for views honestly.
You're right they need four wheel drives is all off-road trucks and if you take them off road it should not void your warranty I agree with you 100%
U should call GM directly I think it's a dealership thing. How could a muffler or tires cause lifter issues. And yes I would like to get a shot at the Colorado!
Pretty awesome to come across a channel, watch a bunch of your videos & find out we live about 60 mins from each other. Can’t wait for more content!!!
Got to love newly released un proven overly complicated vehicles 😂
That engine has been around for awhile.. it's been a known issue with lifters..
@@moosc are you saying he should have researched it more or they should have told him if it's a known problem yeah wow that's bad still guess it's more of a lemon thing.
Lemon laws the whole country for vehicles if is defective as his you know the whole motor.
And all he'd have to do is deactivate the trucks Active Fuel Management system, and his issue could be fixed. But I'm not so sure he wants it to be fixed, otherwise what would he post content of? More stupid Karen BS? Bobby likes to come here in search of the ever so elusive 👍
But for this video, he gets a 🖕from me. Its such an easy fix, that after all this time you have to start to wonder, why wouldn't he just roll his sleeves up and fix it already?
@@jrfairclough4291 you're telling the wrong person this you need to be telling him not me click on a link to him instead of me if that fix will actually help thank you for being so positive thank you.
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Thanks for coming back with a positive reply after my post that was nice also after that I went to sleep.
I had a long day and a long night.
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I did tell him, told him this several videos ago. That's why I don't think he actually wants to fix his issue here.
Talking about property taxes. In colts neck nj, those properties are very similar and they pay 25-30k a year in property taxes. 12-15k a year is pretty normal throughout NJ
Chevy has had junk lifter problems for years in the AFM engines . You have done nothing to the truck to void the warranty .
I think they ditched the AFM motors in like 21 maybe?
@@Danman1972 You are correct ! I just looked it up and it seems it is just in the 4 cylinder . Well hopefully its just a freak lifter problem and it not a major problem with a bunch of trucks sold already .
@@ryantannehill4060 My 08 has 265K and climbing on it... with the AFM. Motor is stock. First year maybe? That or 07. Don't recall. Looking to replace maybe. Don't know. I might toss another tranny or motor in it. If I do toss in a new motor it will likely have a AFM delete in it. It has issues with warping rotors, just starting lot leak oil. Drinks the oil and gas! The dash is cracked. I dealt with a water leaking in the cab issue (just age). I had a 96 gmc previous and loved that truck. That truck was why I bought the 08. Was hopping for better MPG, but they actually had the same trans as the old one. Combined the two have close to 500K between them. On the fence... currently looking at mid sized.... just not sure. Its defiantly decision time... sell now or sink some money (trans and at some point motor). I can't base it on MPG alone as the difference in what I get (14.5) verses new mileage is maybe 600 bucks a year? Just hate that a day ride with my dirt bike in the back is currently close 100 bucks or has been this summer at my favorite spot including gas for my dirt bike bike or park entry. Let alone the 14 hr (each way) haul to ride in the mountains were its cool.
Its a super easy fix for GM, stop using AFM systems that have been failing for years. The lifters they us for the AFM are prone to failure, and would seem that the lifters are just getting worse and worse with ever new model made. The best thing to do to any modern GM v8 that has AFM is to just do a DOD delete.
And then get 60’s big block mileage. Just don’t GM.
Do a DOD delete and put an sv cam from Texas speed cam in it. 60 more hp and no DOD issues.
Do you know if mpg stays the same ? Also requires retune I think these 2022 are blocked from tuning
First off, the ONLY thing adding exhaust could void warranty wise, would be emissions related. Second, sounds like that specific dealership just doesn't want to take on the warranty work. They'd rather hope you accept what they say forcing you to pay out of pocket, which benefits them in a big way.
I'm very happy you contacted Chevy directly! They know this is a known issue, and considering the miles as well as the fact that you mentioned this issue in the very first vid posted with the truck, there's absolutely no reason for them to deny you.
I had an 09 G8 GT, which was known to have issues with the DOD. Older version of what you're dealing with. I was getting lifter noises and the local Pontiac dealer replaced the bad lifters. They didn't wait till the motor blew up. Only thing I didn't like, was that they only replaced the bad lifters instead of doing them all. Nonetheless, it was fixed under warranty.
Keep us posted on what Chevy says and good luck brotha
That's sad what GM has become... No longer built like a rock like back in the 90's and 00's. Fail
Gm "we're in the business of making money. We make money by building cars"
@@williamsinger4124 We make money building shitty f'n cars...
@@sykwookiee plain pitiful ain't it? I have a 92 formula WS6, a 91 Beretta gt that I've had since 97, an 89 Z24 convertible, among others that simply do what they're asked with very minimal complaints. Nowadays you're lucky to get 100k out of a gm product.
@@williamsinger4124 I've always had Ford trucks and Pontiac/ Chevy cars...still have my F150 I bought new in '08...my sons Chevy 1500, new in 2010, is in the shop more than it's in his driveway...he keeps telling me how much Ford sucks...ok...my cars have been sold off, but I hear that the '67 Bonneville is still running mint...and the '72 Chevelle as well...I watch a lot of UA-cam car guys who are Chevy all the way...except for the tow rigs that are stone reliable, Ford, Ford, and Ford....I'm not a brand loyalist, I drive what is reliable...I love all the fast hotrods from all of the manufacturers, but when they break, me and my Ford truck go out and drag their shit home...
@@sykwookiee I have a few Ford products as well. And a few Japanese too. Funny how people will shit talk a certain brand until needed huh.
Colorado ZR2 giveaway! I’m sure we’re all in!
Was seriously considering a 2022 at4x. Not after seeing this video.
Sierra or canyon?
@@Itsrang Sierra was the plan. But maybe I'll see how the engines in the canyons turn out.
Dealerships do suck, I agree!
i would fight for this
All the OEMs are working on getting rid is dealerships sales department and transferring all car buying experience online, like Tasla. They will still have certified dealership open will maintainance
Colorado ZR2 giveaway is a must. I’m patiently awaiting.. keep us posted when the Colorado ZR2 giveaway is happening!
I pulled a guy off of a busy highway w/my Ram, he had this beautiful brand new maroon Z72 Silverado that was just completely dead in the middle of the road, said it was showing some kind of EPC light or something. Felt bad for the guy, I’m a Mopar guy but not gonna lie those trucks look nice af
My father in-law works at a Chevy dealership, and he said the 5.3 and 6.2 are constantly in due to lifter issues. They are now using cheap parts in these vehicles and are constantly blaming the customer.
Dodge played me on known torque converter stuttering problems under warranty. Anybody that drove the vehicle would say wtf is happening yet, everytime the dealership couldn't duplicate the complaint... So I finally wrote a letter to Daimler Chrysler about my horrible issues and how multiple dealerships said they couldn't find the issue, I told them I was going to let my Attorney General test drive my vehicle and see if he can duplicate the issue. Instantly my vehicle was in for full torque converter replacement under warranty. Thoroughly suggest a letter such as this.
We have a 2017 Yukon XL Denali with a 6.2 and 8 speed. We had some studdering/ vibration which was the transmission. The 6.2 has been great but the 8 spd transmission sucks! Nothing but problems even after they replaced the transmission.
The warranty states, you can change any oem parts on the engine voids warranty. Also in all warranty I know off reading damage is not coverage. Even extended warranties do not cover any modifications or off reading damage
GM would have to prove that the mods caused the failure, in order to void the warranty. And it wouldn't void the ENTIRE warranty, so for example an exhaust, wheels, and tires wouldn't void the warranty for an electrical problem
Not just 6.2’s! It happened to my 21 1500 with the 5.3. Only 4000 miles! My dealer fixed it tho! Replaced all lifters
My 21 is in the process of getting the 3rd engine installed
Lots of dealers seem to want to go to step 1 - deny coverage. I’ve had this happen with many brands.
The key is to know what you’re talking about, do your research, and don’t back down. If that dealer still refuses, go to another. If that dealer refuses, take it up with customer care. These steps usually get results.
If the problem continues to happen after repair, then it’s a faulty design and your choices are to keep getting it repaired until it falls under a lemon, so you can lemon law your way out of that vehicle, or trade it in on a different vehicle.
The GMC dealer I work at would cover it no questions asked. We have done it many times.
Thanks dude I was gonna buy that same truck and I wanted a aftermarket exhaust, but after this video I bought a ford F1-50
Same thing is happening to my 2014 sierra, if it has the dod/afm it needs to be deleted and the engine rebuilt
My 2015 when it was new it used 4 to 5 quarts of oil between change's and chevy said that was normal consumption they said up to 1 quart per 1000 miles is considered normal.
Dealer I bought my ZR2 from bought mine back after 1700 miles after paint issues and engine shudder they did me a solid went back to a diesel, first dirty max after having 2 6.7 power stroke , will never do another Mexican made 1/2 ton again
Chevy has issues with that engine. We had a 17 2SS, bent 8 pushrods the first time and tried to blame it on us, but replaced all 9f the lifters and pushrods. A little research showed serious issues with the AFM/DOD systems. Learned that the first time you hear a lifter peck, get it to the shop. The following sprin, fired it up and heard a lifter peck, called the dealer and told them it was pecking and was bringing it in. Instead of having it hauled there, they said go ahead drive it in. Got there it was still pecking. Mechanic, same one that said we had been running it hard and bent them, drove it back into the bay. About 20 minutes later, we heard the car fire up,followed immediately by silence. 45 minutes later they gave us a loaner. It had snapped 8 pushrods on fire up. The mechanic came out and told us what had happened. Being the smart ass that I am, I told him he had been running it to hard. He said, it didn't on start up, to which I replied, same as happened to me last time. He turned beat red and walked off. After having all of the lifters and pushrods replaced 2 times in less than 6 months, that car had to head down the road, couldn't trust it anymore.
The dealership may be the issue here. Also like someone else said they have to prove the modification caused the problem. I have a gmc at4 with the same engine and same issues. Definitely feel the pain. Its been a issue in 6.2's with the afm and dfm since they where introduced. I am going with a afm dfm delete kit just because it makes since. Also when my truck shuts off I unplug the battery cables for 1 min and hook them back up and she starts right up. Still sucks but saves on tow bills
Bro, it’s been a problem since they brought out displacement on demand. The 5.3 is notorious for it as well. GM sucks lately.
Reinforces why I avoided GM since I bought & SOLD my three new half tons, beside the powertrain issues horrible trade in value.
Because gm uses that plant based wire insulation. I’ve had three month old GMs come in with funky problems, chased to rodent eaten wires.
When my engine blew in my old 2014 ram ecodiesel with high mileage almost out of warranty they still cover it just had to show that the oil changes were done on my 2018 Ram Ecodiesel I was doing 4wd snow donuts and blew up the transfer case it was covered and I had 305 55 20 on it not a issue but my 2018 chevrolet equinox diesel it's like pulling teeth to get them to fix I have been waiting since January 2022 to have my rear drive shaft replaced
Hmm, I've got about 5k miles on my 2022 Silverado Ltd (2021 rollover model) 6.2L Trail Boss, and I've not had a single issue. I've also added intake, oil catch can, cat back exhaust along with other stuff. I've not had a single issue, and even though 99% of the time I baby it, and have achieved 26.3MPG, I do have fun with the occasional flat foot time. My truck at 2 miles on the odometer when I bought it new from the dealership, and I didn't have a single issue. First WOT was done at about 270 miles on the odometer.
REVISIONS: Uhh....sounds like you need a reprogram of the ECM, not a engine issue. If there was a engine issue, and the lifters (for the DFM) failed, it wouldn't sound like that. That 'power loss' you're getting, sounds controlled, not mechanical. I think you should rethink your issue, and maybe see if there's something else causing your problem too like possible bad fuel, but sounds like PCM is controlling the issue.
SHEESH. I’m with the dealer on the Colorado ABS sensor issue, but THIS issue is 100% on them. The kind of money we pay for vehicles now days and they’re just trash. I would be going to a different dealer or contact GM directly, but HELL NO to paying out of pocket.
My home town dealership said they would not fix the tpms sensors bc I put ten ply tires on my Silverado that they installed but I took it to another dealership and had zero issues and they replaced my water pump with aftermarket exhaust just have to have factory cats still on it
This is exactly the reason why my family no longer buys general motors. My father had a bad engine in his Chevy S10 back in '99 they said the same thing they blamed it on a dirty air filter haha, dirty puckers! Just a learning experience stay away from general motors! Sad
I got a Silverado zr2 commercial while watching this video lol
Maybe I had good luck back in the day with my GM trucks but I was not only never denied warranty services but on both my 2002 1500 and 2004 2500, I was given an extended "goodwill" warranty on the intermediate steering shaft because it was a POS that needed to be disassembled and greased every 15-20k miles because it would bind. Both trucks lifted, exhausts, tuned! I'm a Mopar fan nowadays but GM took care of me. Try called them direct and they should advise the dealership how to proceed.
Contact your local news station, state government and the BBB and make a complaint on the dealership. Also call Detroit and speak with Chevrolet people in management. If you didn’t mod the engine or drive train other than wheels and tire plus exhaust. Also have you taken it to the dealership for the same engine issue since you purchased it. If you have that will show you have reported this issue before. Good luck to ya.
Moral to the story leave the truck alone, it’s bad ass as is