What Every Shop NEEDS | How To Start A Mechanic Business (Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2018
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Hey Rich can You tell Us why You prefer a Four Post Lift over a Two Post Lift ...!!!!! I am looking to get a Lift but not sure which one to get ...!!!!
Hey Rich,
Electrician in Ontario here, double check the instructions on the LED bulb you got to replace the Metal Halides in your shop. Most require you to disconnect the ballast and direct wire the 120V to the socket or else the smoke will escape your new bulb.
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Do a video on ur thoughts on Chevy new 4 banger VTEC in a full size Silverado. ... What kind of man shows up to a road crew or construction site with that crap?.
Lovely video content! Sorry for butting in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you researched - Tarbbatigan Cars Rehabilitation Tip (probably on Google)? It is a good one of a kind guide for learning how to repair your car the easy way without the headache. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate after many years got great results with it.
My dad always said, if you borrow it 3 times buy one ... lol
Dan Parker we just buy the cheapest version of that tool and if we wear it out or break it than we know we really need it and go get the best one we can.
Probably should use this saying more often. Granted I don't get paid for this just do it on my own for now.
I know the feeling, its always a tireless effort. Keep doing what you love doing.. Forget the rambling it comes from the horse power lol..
brilliant
I hate lending tools out but I am a big softy. Good saying I have always applied that rule also👍
Lots of good advice Rich. One thing a lot of guys forget about is the insurance costs here in the states to operate a legal shop. We have to pay a garage keepers insurance, liability insurance, building and grounds insurance, corporation tax or self employment tax if you are operating under a DBA blah, blah, blah. Heck being self employed costs me over $35,000 a year just for health insurance alone. A lot of guys going out to rent a shop or start there own end up learning this lesson the hard way and get side tracked by thinking they only need a box, tools, a shop to work out of and the money in their pocket. It is tough to get started if you don't have your head screwed on straight. There is little time off, low return on investment, not to mention the personal risks involved. Not trying to discourage anyone from following their dream but the fact is, do your research, talk to shop owners running legitimate business's and be willing to make sacrifices.
-Eric O.
South Main Auto Repair no offense Eric but everyone says their industry is low return on investment. I have heard that about franchise restaurants and supermarkets for the past 20 years. But you seldom ever see a restaurant chain or supermarket go out of business from lack of profit. They go out of business from bad management and too much debt. You watch that Gordon Ramsey show? Those restaurants dont fail from low profit margin. They all fail from bad management. I met a guy fron New Jersey in 2000 who told me there wasnt any money in jewelry. You couldnt make money selling jewelry is what he told me.
Youre exactly the guy theyre giving advice to. You dont own a business clearly. Im talking to Super Godzilla.
It is from poor management and being uneducated. That is the point I was trying to get across Super G. Any guy who thinks he can get some tools, rent or mortgage a shop, buy an open sign and call it a business is only fooling himself. Having tools and a place to work is only a small percentage of what it takes to "be in business." Sure, there are a few cash only fly by night operations that may make it for years before trouble pops up and they loose it all, but the fact is to run a real licenced, insured business is not that easy from the start. If it was, there would be a lot more entrepreneurs than there are...
South Main Auto Repair but that is the thing Eric O., that is exactly what I see man. You are Upstate I guess below Syracuse, around that area I think? I am in NYC and if you came here for a day or two I could show you guys who did just that all over New York. Tools, shop, sign...business. What you will see is alot of these guys are immigrants to America(from all the world). Most of them have no ASEs nor any comprehensive English to take the test anyway. They had an idea, this is America and they ran with it. They are required to have the same paperwork you do with the DMV and the Tax and Finance Department. You know the Russian guy and the guy in Staten Island who does mobile diagnostics, whose names I cant remember right now? Viable business model because every shop down here doesnt do every thing. Guys can eat off the grunt work, diag work and vanity work. I think Upstate the greatest hindrance to success is that those communities cant afford prevailing labor rates so you wind up leaving money on the table just to get work.
The guy who did my tranny was from Trinidad. His shop was literally the size of a storefront church. He had four lifts inside and cars parked up on the street. I have worked with guys from Jamaica, Ecuador, Guatamala, Grenada, Haiti, Guyana, Hungary, Germany and all these guys were pursuing the American dream of running their own business. All of those things you mentioned didnt seem to belabor them one bit.
South Main Auto Repair Eric O., man, I could show you Jerome Avenue in the Bronx, Liberty Avenue in Jamaica, Queens, Utica Avenue in Brooklyn(amongst many other streets), Newark, NJ, Mineola, Long Island where there are a dozen of shops back to back in a row and everyone is eating. 12 muffler shops on three blocks? 6 tranny places on 2 blocks? A tire shop on every corner? These guys aint geniuses, man, but they are making it work.
Hello. I have a very close friend who is a mechanic. Has his own shop, small , but very functional. Has been there for 40 years.
Unfortunenatly, for the general public, mechanics like you and my friend are a dying breed. The honesty, integrity and sometimes compassion shown by independant mechnics is very lacking in the world of dealerships and chain service centers today. Keep your personality, it is a sheer pleasure to watch and follow along with your dream.
Very good advice, ive been a full auto body tech for 12 yrs, lead tech for 5. I started with a harbor freight cart, craftsman tool set my grandparents bought for xmas. I slowly upgraded my necesary tools every paycheck. I still use a lot of cheaper tools to get the job done. And i still havnt purchased a big ass tool box. I have 3 rollor carts, 1 body, 1 mech, 1 storage for bigger tools. Techs in my corp shop have big ass snap on boxes and still come to my carts to barrow tools. I hope to build a home in the next year with a shop to go on my own, as i really enjoy diesel mechanics and restoring older rigs. Keep up the great videos, i enjoy your skills and talent and to get a job done well to the best of your ability for the customer.
With tools I couldn’t agree more. If I had to do it all over again I’d buy used tools and Gearwrench. Getting into major debt with tool companies is a bad idea
I've bought LOTS of used tools on eBay. Anything with a solid warranty works for me. When I have to buy new, lately I've been going with Proto or SK. Reasonable cost and nice quality, usually.
Same here dude. Wish I wasn't so vain when I was buying tools. They really got me with the easy weekly payments for the rest of your life!
Exactly, you're right.
You know you've made it when Turbo Yoda gives you a shout out in the Skid Factory.
Wes Gates yes!
Hi Wes, yes, i caught that comment from Al aka Turbo Yoda as well, but, i was watching Rich already too :)
You were smart going with the floor heat and installing an eyelet or two. I enjoyed the tour, thanks.
Just got my first box recently for my 13th birthday
-it's a husky and have no complaints so far
The intro to this video speaks to me on so many levels!
Go ahead and label the boxes.... But put the labels on magnetic tape, then when you move things around, you can move the labels just as easily...
Oh no my little girls would move them weekly and I would be very confused. My P-Touch labeler is much safer for me.
I found that steel file cabinets are great for storing sandpaper and abrasive belts etc. Also worked real good for storing hand power tools all in a common area. I painted them to match everything else and was quite surprised at how many drills, grinders, saws that could be stored in one four drawer file cabinet. I had three and they looked and worked great.
Randal Bloomquist my whole workshop is nothing but used steel office furniture.
I had troubles finding card/map files with shallow drawers, if you wait they show up.
I converted a 4 drawer to a 6 drawer using a 2 drawer as a donor. Wasn’t that hard, took a bit of time.
After I had done it I then had to reorganise the cabinets 2 more times as I found a card file close by on eBay (along with a school bag caddy/sans primary school locker that I converted to take grab kits/organiser trays) and another off the back of a guys ute before he dumped it at the scrap yard.
I was able to purchase 2 tool boxes, full of tools from two gentleman who had passed away. Some of my tools are decades old, with decades of use. Even though i didn't know the gentleman, there is history in these tools and I'm truely greatful to be able to use them.
The d ring and plate in the floor is genius!! I work in a shop that maintains a fleet of cranes and something like that would have been super handy. Thanks man. You are a very practical and resourceful guy, that's why I enjoy your channel.
EVERY single time a young guy asks me about being a mechanic... i say the same thing you suggested, buy expensive precision tools and cheap sockets to start off. I still work out of a second hand box and the snapon guy bugs me about it every monday but i dont care
I did things differently, the tools I use daily I bought from Mac and snapon, meanwhile tools I use on occasion I buy from cornwell or lowes. It’s nice having paid tools and you’re own shop, thinking about hiring a helper to keep the gears going as I want to enjoy the fruit of my labor.
The snap-on guy still bugs me on a regular basis.....but every Wednesday, as the other 7 guys in my shop line up at his truck’s door to make their weekly payments, I’m still in the shop working & making money. I bought a large rollcart from him once, 8 years ago. A guy had bought it new and then it was repo’d about 6 months later for non-payment. I bought it for 70% off its new list price. Paid in cash, which is the ONLY way I buy from snap on. They make some great tools, and i own one set of their 3/8 deep & shallow 12pt sockets...I love em. But they were a treat for myself. I mean, $238 for what, 22 sockets? And that was on clearance? Insanity. 90% of my tools were purchased from Sears, Napa, Northern Tool, Menards, Amazon, and even a few odds and ends from Harbor Freight. To sum it all up: the best mechanic I ever worked with rolled his tools into the shop on a hand cart, contained in 7 cheap plastic toolboxes. The generic ones you buy at Home Depot for $15. That guy was seriously amazing.
I'm a field mechanic, my best toolbox is a bucket. :)
and i bet u waste time looking for tools
Aka emergency toilet
100% agree, if you are just starting out you don't need to spend thousands on a box. I am trying to convince our new guy not to finance a box. I keep telling him goto the homeless deathspot and pick up a cheap box. Or if you want a really nice one on the cheap shop craigslist. I started out with a tiny shitbox from husky. Now I have a Snap-on KRL1033 with a stainless top and hutch with about 50k worth of tools. Lots of guys get in the business and find out they hate it or they end up getting let go because it isn't working out. You don't wanna owe the snap on man money if you get canned.
Great post. Enjoy how realistic your planning/layout is. Those eyelets in the ground could easily be the best value addition a person could add to ANY type of shop.Thanks from Calgary!
Very excited to follow your progress on the workshop, and learn from them. I’m soon to be an apprentice mechanic and one of my dreams is to have my own shop eventually, maybe in the next decade or so
Rich is a very smart dude and a natural on camera. Extremely informative and entertaining. Love the vids
I am always checking Craigslist and others for used tools. Its amazing what you can find if you wait. As we all know, you can NEVER have enough tools. There is always room for one more.
Couldn't agree more
I'm that guy 3 big work benches
1 is accessible lol, being a farmer i farm as long as the sun allows unless somthing breaks
I work till its fixed at what ever hour at night
Then I drop everything and go to bed wake up next day and back to work leaving the shed and leave the mess
Then once a month I crack the shits and have a big clean out
Rinse and repeat
Always look forward for your videos!
You are such a humble dude. Keep it up bud
I used to work in a shop that when they poured the floor, they put in huge 2 in thick by 12x12 plates of steel with a 2" rod about 5 feet long into the ground, so whenever we needed it we just welded anchors to the ground and then cut them off when done
I have clevis's poured into the floor that I can tie a chain to. Great to think ahead.
I got a costco box for 350 with wheels and it was nice. I bought snap on tools but one at a time as I needed them, over the course of several years. I started off doing mechanicing on the side while working as an engineer. The most expensive hardest part of being a mechanic is building the metal frame building with radient in floor heat. I have found that I can work on my plane with a hand held tool box for most things.
Every time I watch one of you're videos showing the inside of the shop I keep saying to myself that I need to make some of those tire racks
Looking good! always looking for ways to help around the shop! Keep making these videos need all the ideas i can get!
The key with tools is having everything you need, but not going nuts turning yourself inside out for things you dont...
Precision tools, like an impact gun. Awesome.
Hey Rich I live in Hawaii, and 10 years ago I built what I thought at that time was my dream shop, I don;t wrench for a living i'm retired and I mess around with old car;s, I have quickly found out the the 30 deep by 50 long shop was too small. I do have a 2 post lift, but I now realize I should have bought a 4 post, like you said in your video about getting older well im' 62 and my joints seem like 70 any way I enjoy wrenching and I love your show's, Aloha
Glad I ran across your video . Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences !
Good info!! I have been twisting wrenches for over 45 years... Love my career Now own three shops and enjoying life...I agree on the overpriced tool boxes love it when you here someone brag about paying 10k for a box,,that box doesnt make you money ,,thats 10k you could spend or other equipment that will make you money!!! Have great week!!
Hey, great shop tour and ideas. I like how you think and plan. One suggestion on benches is maybe buy 2 boxes and an 8 ft bench top to set on top of the 2 boxes, then as you can afford add the drawer boxes in. Your a good man really enjoy your videos.
Keep the awesome videos coming rich!
Love the hook in the floor very slick
Just a thought for the labels, you can purchase a roll of magnetic strips to apply the labels to. This way you can move labels easily, as tools move.
Thanks for the vid Rich. Love to hear the history of your shop. Wish I had of persued the trade.
i dribble in working on my own truck, car and friends. i also do my own work on my own landscaping equipment and other various things. needless to say im 16 and i just got a used matco top and bottom box for $200 and i was ecstatic about it. i also rock harbor freight, stanely, Milwaukee, dewalt and makita tools. i try to save as much as i can but still get good quality tools that have lifetime warranty... i love your vids and thank you for all the great informative content.
Check out the GearWrench stuff. Shop around, they have quite a few of their sets go on sale, buy one get one free. Some guys say they are crap tools, but I rebuilt my 600hp Cummins ISX with them, we call it in framing the motor, and they did just fine. I have yet to break any of these tools working on my semi. And they do come with a lifetime warranty. Many tool trucks are starting to carry them too.
And great find on those Matco boxes! I have the first Matco box I bought around 1980. It still works.
Love the updates. Hope to see more
Nice garage. The floor is amazing. Heated floor very smart never thought about that, most exspensive part. Metal building with spray foam. Great job all around. I would have an office/ bedroom on your upper loft and no house. Lol. Love the channel.
Fantastic advice, Rich.
Thanks Rich. Chase your dreams!
Waiting for part 2 im about to build a 40x80 so this is helpful!
Awesome! If you haven't seen it yet be sure to check out our pole barn build series too. ua-cam.com/video/6iZtbTY8NG4/v-deo.html
The skid factory (mighty car mods second channel) just had an episode and Turbo Yoda said he watches Deboss ;)))) keep on keeping on guys...!
thats why I'm here!!!
Oh, and Yoda's right, good channel
Great video. Happy new year.
Great video Rich 👍
Thank you from a guy who's looking for a career change. thinking of jumping in cautiously
Just a couple thoughts... I put a nice heavy duty outlet strip on each end of all of my benches. It's always been a handy place for them and then there aren't cords at the back OR out the front and no matter how much crap I stack on or around the bench I can always get to the side. Works well for me.
In regard to labeling, I recently bought a Fellows label maker for about $20 on Amazon. The stickers stay on good, but also come off nicely later, and are thermal so grease or water doesn't instantly make them useless. I plan to do a lot of what you've got going on with the same idea in mind. Fortunately, or unfortunately (whichever way you want to look at it), I've had to downsize shops and am now going to have to store lesser used tools in the basement of the house. I'm putting them all in totes and labeling them. Such as A/C equipment, wood tools, etc, etc. It's a reasonable way to make more use of the little space I do have and it's pretty cheap. I've been buying totes no larger than I could possibly move if they were pretty much full of hardware (so... about 12 liters/3 gallons or so) for about $6/ea. Then they're easy to deal with.
I like the pull point. Good idea
I love your set up really nice
Your the man. Respect.
Ur one smart man thanks man learned lots off u
I work for cat. 12 hour days, 6 days a week of hard use on the tools in 120 degree heat in the desert. I bought cheap sears/harbor freight/amazon tools in the beginning and still have most of those tools. I did invest in a few snap on tools, mainly ratchets, they just hold up a lot better in my experience but nothing wrong with other brands.
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with harbor freight/craftsman sockets.
I just work around my cars and flip cars every now and then, I can relate a little bit to this "mechanic" wise, however I do handyman/ remodel work and on that I can definitely relate. Everyone wants Milwaukee or dealt drill bits which can be compared to soccets and I just get ryobi. They last a long time if you know how to properly use them, you are going to loose them anyways so why go all out on them? I love working on cars and want a big box but my medium size box holds everything I have now and got a lil bit of room for future tools. Great job pointing out mistakes and fixes for them as well as small tips that make a huge difference
inspiration. your well on your way with the transition mechanic to inspirator
all good advice, only thing I would do different is to install actual pull pots in the floor instead of what you have. Awesome shop space, I am more than a little jealous, and thanks for the links on the cabinets!
Good idea on burying an anchor point in the concrete. That would be super handy. Something to keep in the back of the mind for sure.
If you’re on a budget, used steel office furniture is handy in the shed/garage/workshop.
3 drawer file cabinets. You can get card file and map type ones in similar dimensions if you look hard. The trick is all the brands are slightly different dimensions, shim the cabinets level with steel offcuts and you can lay on a bench top.
I’ve a row of 4 drawer files with stationary cabinets on top. If you get a same brand 2 drawer, strip it down, measure, cut, weld runner frames and fold the drawer faces you can make a 6 drawer cabinet, dividers in the drawers, I’ve got 2 I made, one for metric bolts, the other for imperial.
I made a rolling work table (I fix mowers) out of bench frame I found, in it I have a 2 drawer lateral file cabinet that I converted to 4 drawers for tools and parts.
My actual tool box is a 1.2m high map cabinet I found on the side of the road. Roller bearing drawers about 80mm deep that will take any amount of weight. It sits on an upside down angle iron frame with casters and shimmed at the front to stop drawers rolling out. Was chipboard top, is now stainless steel on a metal frame.
My work benches are made from a lot of 50x50 & 50x25 trusses from a shop front awning that I picked up. One is 32mm chipboard with woodgrain laminex the other is steel top with an old trailer floor upside down.
I’ve a whole small engine workshop entirely furnished with stuff I’ve found or picked up cheap. No need to spend $3000 if you’ve got a bit of time.
Nice video. I'm fighting this life on everything but it get there.
Thanks for all the tips, I have watched this video countless times. Is there a part 2?
Well done bro!!!
Awesome to hear you also use the alternator to turn an engine 👌🏻👍🏻!! I also do it that way to set the valve clearance on the engine if i can’t get to the crankshaft because the front pto shaft is directly connected to the crankshaft pulley 😬👌🏻 keep up the good videos !! Greetz from holland 🤙🏻
You have some great ideas.
For what it's worth, I used to calibrate torque wrenches and tolerance is usually +/- 3% of full scale and most that I came across were pretty darn good and accurate. The main difference I saw was how easy some were to adjust and lock that calibration adjustment. Almost all dial indicating torque wrenches will need to be recalibrated if dropped.
You will love those light. We have 6 of those lights in are shop and there half the size of yours and they are bright
I like the shop am trying to build my own in the Bahamas thanks for the advice
Good advice and ideas!
Loved this vid
I recommend new technicians to go to a training school or community college that has automotive or diesel. You receive a great student discount. I don’t regret buying Snap On since I get a great discount.
You most definitely can get a 4-post lift that is able to be worked underneath. Our shop has ran nothing since Bend-Pak from our opening in 2006. We replaced our 4 post once since we needed higher capacity.
that is awesome mate, love that shop layout, mostly jelly as i want my own personal shop. yeah when you said hydro i knew what you ment, from toba
Great video. Helpful. Thanks
Like the work benches! Did you think about a retractible electrical cord reel or air hose? You can mount them high on the wall so they are out of the way. Pull em down when you need them.
Your a straight up Hussler
I got a kick out of the hydro thing, I totally thought you were talking about running water lines for a water hose.
Great workshop!, it looks the way it should.....worked in!, im always weary of shiney workshops, where everything shines....too much cleaning and not enough grease slinging!. All the best matey.
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You’re the man
good advice, thank u
Every shop that i've ever been to that does good work looks like yours, don't be ashamed of your "mess"
I actually work out of that same box. It's been rebranded as an MTD, also have a side box for it. I find it to be great quality to be honest. Gave 500 for it, first thing i did was clean and grease the tracks. Just moved from my home shop to a hot rod shop, so decided to give it a sweet metal flake paint job. I almost pulled the trigger on a husky or Milwaukee, but this will do for now, cheers, liked and subbed.
I used to buy all new, but then I saw the light. Pawn shops. Snap on and Mac boxes for $600 - $1200. Socket sets, etc, etc. You have to visit regularly and frequently. And of course sets always are missing the 10mm and the 5/16". I also standardize on cordless platforms. So Makita and Milwaukee. All of this means being patient and waiting. Trade-offs. I am an amateur though. Haven't decided if I want to make it a job.
I seen all your videos you're a f****** genius
Make sure you disconnect the ballast and wire straight 120v to the socket of those high bays. Hope they turn out as bright or brighter than the HPS bulbs.
Letter your drawers on your bench then list on a heavy 8.5" x 11" print out what is in each drawer. The benefit is you can change and you only let those you give the list's access to know what is in the drawers. I have used this method for years.
Home Depot Sells the Top and Bottom Milwaukee for about 1200$ ish ! Power Bar on the side and Power Bar under the top hood , Super nice box too 👍
Great video
great video!
I see some folks mentioned high running costs vs. Profit margin. Depends what you wanna do, if you want to work on some "prestige" cars or HD engines CAT/Scania you need proper space and insurance, profit margin might be slim but you can work on cheap bangers for folks that don't care that much what they driving they just want stuff repaired with possibly the cheapest oil and oem parts, in that scenario it will be more customers, so even with 10-20% profit you are still will be golden.
New subscriber here. Just found your channel. Great video!
As a fellow Canadian i understand the concept having a clean and having a well worked in shop.
I have to lift my gerage so i can get atleast 10 foot walls.
My goal is to make a 40x50 shop
Ontario also has a ton of nuclear, which includes the biggest Nuclear power plant in the world by power production and number of reactors, Bruce nuclear generating station. p.s. nuclear power is badass af!
Sound and solid advice! My sister's ex boyfriend was the one that steered me away from being a professional mechanic, because it's my hobby, and it was his, but he told me how much it ruined it for him as a hobby.. used tools are the best, fap on, mac, Matco, any of them..
How long have you had the fork lift? How many have you had?
If you had to buy another one what would you change about it?
I've got nothing but Snap-On tools and a Snap-On chest. I paid for them all once and have had the very best for the forty years ever since. There is a huge difference in the tool quality between a Snap-On tool and every other brand. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't change a thing. I paid for the best once, (except the tool chest, which I upgraded along the way) and have never had to pay for those tools ever again. Best business decision I ever made.
Hot Rod Pete's Garage things have now change brotha theres is more technology out there and heck of alot more comoetition in the tool business i use to think this way too and had only snapon, mac, matco and cornwell tools i own a matco toolbox shhhhh 11grant for it with no tools buy monster tools, dent fix, 3m, grey pneumatic great quality fraction of the cost
I'm not a mechanic by trade, just a hobbyist and a shadetree, but the harbor freight boxes are surprisingly good for their price. $350 for a bottom and top combo is insane compared to some of the big names. Apparently they discontinued that combo, but even with what they are now the price is hard to beat.
Hey Rich, someone has probably already made you aware of this, but you got a shoutout from Turbo Yoda of the Skid Factory on MCMTV2. It was in their latest episode (EP9) of the Skyline build. Big kudos to you!! Awesome content and much appreciated :-)
Thanks
that is a nice merc!
Hey Rich nice video. Would you be able to go into more detail about the PEX you used for the air lines? Was it just normal PEX for water or was it ALUPEX? And what were the ends you glued and crimped on? Also 1/2" or 3/4"? And what air pressure do you run in them?