Jojo villains abilities are based in theoretical physics which means they can do whatever they want if they stick within the higher dimensional stands we can explain it by Theoretical Physics it is the peak of human knowledge about logic we shouldn't be surprised if Araki himself appears.
@@Quwucuqin that's not how theoretical physics works gravitational fate is ideological manifestion Dio's efforts in the main universe subsequently making everything doesn't just work in theory since they're predistanced to meet the truth which is the path of justice, something not in line with Jojo villains ideals
@@Quwucuqin the thought of araki being the villain is kinda redundant since both logic and illogic have have found their conclusion part 9 is probably going to get more political about jodio's individualism
@@Jamlord2061Kaleb completely forgot: Akainu and Sengoku(as far as I remember) have CONQUERORS HAKI. So that will immediately take out Kira and Tooru. They both have by far the weakest wills. Follow that up with a Falling Lava, Sweeping Tundra combo from Marineford, and Pucci is going to have a tough time getting close. Pucci has the speed, but not the speed perception. Kars is by far the biggest threat(bias because he's my fav) because he's the only one with the potential to instantly learn Haki during the fight. He can take Akainu, Aokiji, Fujitora, and Greenbull with his transformations. Hamon, and if he learns Haki, can help him go Asuras Wrath against Sengoku. Kizaru would be the most difficult.
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 Kars only way of counter is just yeeting him to space honestly. Like as long as he ain't getting softlocked he ain't dying. Kars has 400 IQ and that's more than enough to be hard to kill.
The thing about a lot of the stands is they do hit with enough force to level a city in a single rush but the force is focused into and does expand so it only damages what they are hitting
Kars: where the hell is Valentine!! (In an alternative dimension) valentine: yo you the king of the pirates? Roger: yeah Valentine: good can you do me a favor?
Roger appears laughing! Sengoku: What have you done? We're all dead! Valentine: I was warned about this, but I didn't believe him! *Whitebeard pops up from underground, Big Mom comes flying on her umbrella, Kaido full frontal slams from the clouds. Garp laughs with a bag of rice crackers* Sengoku: We're all gonna die!
The idea of Pucci just running up to the Admirals at the speed of light and being like, “Yo this is my buddy Yoshikage Kira” and then all of them just blow up is really funny to me Edits: A lot of these replies are really dumb… this original comment was referencing the scenario Kaleb describes at 20:46… go watch it before you comment. I should also mention that a little earlier than the time stamp I posted, Kaleb states that this scenario is only possible if we’re applying JoJo videogame logic to the fight, so can y’all stop getting on my back about that one too? For God’s sake none of my statements are meant to be taken literally. Are the powerscalers really this dense? It’s a joke, nothing else.
@@frozenburrito2.087 Kira need to hit them first troll ... Kira cant hit them ... Kira cant make explode something he never make contact with lol . I dont Care about one pièce ; but what i hâte its peoples like you wanking fodders like Kira when this fodder would not even beat ussop ; too weak ; too slow ; need to make contact for Make his power work ; dam even a fodder from one pièce would destroy Kira .
@@mazeluchi9508 Pucci is shown to be able to move faster than stone free's punches which scale with star platinum who out punches Silver Chariots slashes. Silver Chariot is fast enough to cut a beam of light. Pucci is over hundreds of times faster than any of them. But if they had a dolphin I guess Pucci would be screwed,
What really makes this scary is that canonically DIO and Pucci got along. Furthermore, Pucci can see in stopped time. That means that you're dealing with essentially two time independent entities that know how each other fights and functions. Not to mention the fact that Kira, not wanting to be seen, would likely collaborate in the background, either with Funny Valentine or DIO and Pucci. Best case scenario, you're 100% going against Kars, Funny, Kira, Toru, Diavolo, and DIO and Pucci as they work together. Worst case, Kars, Diavolo, and Toru are gonna fight you independently, while Kira, Funny, and Pucci all rally under DIO to jump y'all asses. Teamwork makes the dream work, and fighting against them as a proper fighting unit is a nightmare.
The problem is, king crimson"s and the world"s destruction capability are not doing a thing to ridiculous people like akainu, So it's just valentine, kira, tooru.
@@Kira22558 dio tells kira to bomb the one in front of him, dio stops time and puts kira behind one of the admirals, restarts time, admiral gets blown up, freeze time to get kira out. Only need to do that once or twice to make a massive difference
The jojo villians slam. The Admirals definitely have higher AP and speed but the stand abilities are too busted. Wonder of U and Made in Heaven clear. Adding in love train is just over kill.
@@elzyofficial9087 that's not true, even if you take the villians out of the equation they'd still get dealt with by GER, Tusk act 4, and soft and wet 'go beyond'
@@Rdc_Dom Tusk act 4💀no admiral is getting hit by Tusk act 4, but I’m just being real here. Also Soft and Wet Go Beyond is good as the bubbles go through any barrier but you still need to factor in the durability of these men. That’s why I purposely said GER.
Future sight ain't going to do anything if they can't do anything if everything they try to get rid of it just reverse to the holder @@firdanharbima6997
You guys seem to be forgetting that killer queen doesn't need to touch them. Kira just has to put a bomb in an object, and if the admirals touch that object, the bomb will be transferred to them. This makes the Pucci Kira combo very deadly. Also I think he can still blow up logias, since he can blow up inanimatr objects as well.
The issue with blowing up a Logia is that... well, the Logias can put themselves back together. Notably Kizaru was cut in half and was just like "Huh" before beaming himself together again, but we've seen worse examples even earlier in the series, like someone having all their body broken using his electric element to puppeteer himself back into place, same person restarted his heart when someone made it stop. Logia are only rampantly BS in Pre-Timeskip, mind, but Haki isn't something Kars could adapt to instantly.
@@leothewhiteranger That's fair. Though I personally believe that Kira's bombs just disintegrate you into nothingness. Its weird like that. And I don't really wanna talk about Kars or Vampire Dio.
@@leothewhiterangerdoesn't kira's bomb destroy things on an atomic level? No trace. If a bomb gets on akainu then akainu and every bit of magma becomes a bomb that if sets off destroys all of it.
Unfortunately, Jojo antagonists have playground level "nuh uh" abilities. Unless observation/armament haki becomes reality shattering, it's curtains. The only thing to say they can **MAYBE** take it is a combined wave of conqueors haki able to take out all except for maybe dio and kars
@@luckedout2131 Jesus, imagining Kars with 100x stronger haki than the guys who we can only assume are the greatest users of it in the verse is insane. Blasting a whole hemisphere into unconsciousness or something.
@@Gab12345BRyeah no killer queen doesn’t erase anything from existence, and we’ve seen that explosions deadass do not affect the admirals without the use of haki, kizaru was hit with an explosion and got back up after
@@deeznuts6939 Killer Queen turns any object that it touches into an explosive, doesn't matter if they're immune to damage or made out of grass, they'll be turned into a bomb that explodes every cell from the inside out. It bypasses durability. They may be able to survive but they'll 100% injured from it at the very least.
Haoshoku (mb if I misspelt it) isn’t inherited but it’s in the character if yk what I’m going at here. So kars could just copy whatever gives a op char hao and use it himself, his mental ability would be insanely strong
@@Jpeg_skeleton The narrorator itself (author) said it was literally a combination of Plot Armor, Joseph's luck, and the world itself deciding he was too dangerous, lol. If you're asking for the literal way he lost, then he was sent into space where he couldn't adapt or anything (he froze and lacked oxygen, so he couldn't do anything).
From what little I know of jojo, even before watching this, jojo characters are basically top tiers in terms of hax movesets. One piece paramecia users get pretty wacky. Then bring in jojo abilities and they make paramecium users look tame by comparison. Honestly i think bringing the jojo villians to series like Bleach and Naruto would also make good video topics.
@@Foodstory-oi2eu I know, all Im stating is that theirs a luck devil fruit out there, Im not saying shes apart of this, and she isnt a an admiral regardless.
Admirals got power, durability and endurance. The villains got speed and hax out the wazoo. If Perfect Kars is there then there's a decent chance he learns Haki by being hit by the Admirals. It just feels appropriate he could eventually learn that. I'm giving it to the Jojo villains. They have D4C: LT which is busted as a defensive, Wonder of U for instant retaliation if pursued, Kars for raw intelligence, Kira for bombs and SHA, DIO, Diavolo, and Pucci for time related shenanigans. It's a wrap for the Admirals.
The Admirals DO in fact have the capability to deal with Kars, which is Fujitora rocketing him off into space, which we have no reason to think he can't do considering the fact Fujitora can pull fucking meteors
Considering how Fuji can just jet around on a floating rock chunk he definitely has the ability to try and fling anyone into the stratosphere... Or at least if he can't do it directly (aside from story plot holes) he could do the ground below someone Would be a matter of if the anti gravity disabled Kars due to speed long enough to yeet him into space or if Kars could get free first
I mean, why the hell would he send him into space off rip? I'd also reckon it's much easier to pull something INTO Earth's gravity rather than out of it.
@@eggroll3055 There's no way to kill kars except for sending him into space cause the guy literally withstood everything that was thrown at him and pulled an instant Mahoraga and adapted + if he ate any devil fruit he'd be too OP cause he would just get the ability but 100x stronger as proven in part 2 and stated in the manga
I think we underestimate Fujitoras power over Gravity, he could easily send people to space but doesn't due to his honor. In a fight against these guys with zero bystanders, he could banish them to space.
Well Aokiji actually does have a fruit involving temperature rather than just ice, because we're told he can also unfreeze things too and his fruit is called the "Chilly Chilly" fruit which hints at it just being the fruit of cold.
Something else to consider about Kars. Hell, Kars has the powers of all life forms in the world. That includes plant life forms too (we see him turn his hand into a flower at one point). You know what are plant life forms in One Piece? Devil Fruits. Kars could turn his hand into any Devi Fruit that exists, take a bite, and give himself that Fruit's powers at the Awakened level.
Well currently in the manga of one piece Dr vegapunk basically says devil fruits are more just lab technology rather than actually organic fruits so he probably couldn't do that but since he learned hamon instantly and it was stronger than anyone else's he might be able to do that with haki
5:01 Fujitora wasn't really trying to break out of the cage. Doflamingo was technically still protected by the world government, so he had no authoritative jurisdiction to do anything about it.
Yeah Fuji definitely seems like the kind of guy to fake help stop the cage (act like he’s helping but really use any of his power) while citizens get torn to shreds or crushed by rubble. That seems very in character. He’d totally let Doflamingo slaughter thousands of innocents so he could make the WG look bad in public. Totally.
Weren't both Doffy and Law stripped of their war lord status immediately? Also that just makes Fujitora a sucker then, but that's the case with most admirals.
@@shirothr5384 No it's because morally he didn't believe that the marines had the right to come in and play hero after they caused the whole situation in the first place. So he let Luffy and the rest save the day.
5:03 Oh Fujitora could absolutely break out of the bird cage, he just didn't because he wanted Luffy to beat Doflamingo in order for this event to be impossible to cover up and lit a fire ubder the government's ass
Pucci, Valentine and Tooru: untouchable and durability negation Kars: immortal Kira: durability negation DIO and Diavolo: confusion and save teammates What is the One Piece verse gonna do bruh😭
The problem is: Diavolo"s king crimson"s attack power is kind shit, so his punchs isn't doing a thing to any of one piece top villains. Same thing with dio. Kira on otherhand is not surviving a direct fight without getting stomped.
@@Kira22558 you forgot that diavolo can be support class,with epitath he can tell when and where they are going to get attacked,and he can just skip the attacks,repeat,and profit.
All the jojo villains get into love train, then kira plants bites the dust on one of them and they shout his name at the admirals. On the next loop they all just stay in love train and wait for the admirals to suffer their fated death. Ezpz
Don’t even have to do that. If they all just sit in Love Train and have WoU or Tooru stand in front while the admirals charge them, then watch as calamity takes them all out 😂
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that l'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
Hey, good video, but Fujitora is actually implied to be very much able to break out of the Bird Cage. He is an admiral so since Doffy is a Celestial Dragon, he can't hurt him. He was holding back with the meteor showcase, and when the Bird Cage broke everybody fell like they should since they were pushing someting and it ceased to exist except Fujitora since it's implied that he wasn't pushing the Bird Cage with his full power. Also slight spoiler, but Oda said in the newest SBS that Fujitora has a special-grade sword so he is very capable.
not even that but because fuji didn't want the marines to take credit,he wanted it to be luffy which is why he said his bet payed off when luffy won,dont think fuji cares that doffy is a celestial,especially when doffy wasn't even officially a celestial
Oh another thing to take note of is that in the jojo OVA, stand users can cover their bodies with their stands. If the calling here were able to do that, it would give both invisible and intangible armor
@@twistedlight3432stands can only be hurt by other stands, but stands can interact with humans. SPOILER: Example of this is Doppio directly attacking and killing Abbacchio and not his stand. This means that it’s selective and can still interact with people while being intangible and unable to take damage. I don’t agree with this but it’s possible that it works that way. And as for verse equalization let’s say that Armament Haki is equivalent to a stand. So if someone has a stand then they also have armament haki, and someone with armament haki will have a stand. And for equalization I personally believe Dio, Pucci, and Kars, would have some form of conquerors haki and maybe Kars would even have Advanced Conquerors haki. Also Kars has cells from every living thing that exists so that means he also has every devil fruit. Verse equalization is beneficial to both sides but I believe it’s way more useful for JoJos.
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZUthat is true. They’d probably end up in the water like the Stone Ocean crew did which would not be ideal. I think Kizaru could take advantage of literally being light and just go with the flow of the universe reset but he might be redshifted pretty fast. The only one who stands a chance is Kizaru as everyone else in their Logia forms would just accelerate to the point of disintegration as they most likely won’t count as a human anymore (besides Fujitora and Sengoku) but light is immortal in that it only stretches
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZUuniverse reset isn't an actual attack, cause it never directly harm or kill anyone, pucci benefit from that speed and attack himself that's still not enough
@@Kira22558 + kars cause he'd adapt and also if yk if he consumes a op devil fruit he'd get the powers but 100x stronger like what he did with hamon in part 2
@@Foodstory-oi2eu I mean Dio does have his Vampire powers like freeze touch and Space Ripper stinger eyes + other vampiric powers but he doesn't use all of them in Part 3. The proof that he still has them is in the Vanilla Ice part. So, he is still kinda useful and another thing to add-on is he can still evolve the World into TW:OH. Hence, if the battle goes on he will eventually becomes stronger. Besides that, Timestop + Made in Heaven combo exists and the more he uses his Timestop the longer the duration extends.
@@Malo_mart man was talking about highballing the Admirals, not the jojo's, but since you brought it up the stand users are just humans with normal durability, it's their stands that have the high durability, and it's only high since their AP is high as well, the same goes for anyone
@@Kira22558he said the admirals are almost moon level they are country level at most bc if they were moon level they wouldn’t need buster calls or anything like that
HAD is still something that would’ve happened had the stardust crusaders or anyone else not stopped dio, and you got to remember every single activation of the world increases it’s duration by a minuscule amount
Okay i thought of this, just Valentine and Kira. Valentine sit in the love train and just keep spawning Kira and throwing him at the admiral. Eventually, he just has to touch them with killer queen. Hell what if he has a version of Kira far away from the battle with goggles to detonate the bomb the other kira's put on the admirals. Even if the kira thrown at the admiral dies before detonating the bomb another version of kira standing far away prob could. make them explode, it's the same stand why could it not.
Couldn’t fujitora theoretically recreate that one move jumping Jack flash dish on Jolene and use that against Kars? Essentially making a vacuum on earth to disable him
Small correction that could make a huge difference: you cant harm a Logia by being faster than them. Logias are made of their element, not transforming into it. A special paramecia like the mochi mochi fruit needs to manually dodge, but Logias are impermiable outside of sea stone, sea water, haki, or the elemental weakness (if it exists)
That doesn’t change anything. They would still get destroyed by Kira since even inanimate objects get destroyed on a Atomic level. Kars is the Ultimate Life Form giving him access to to anything related to animals and plants which is why he can use Ultimate Hamon so by that definition he can just create and eat all Devil fruits (his body can just regenerate when he would die from it since he is literally immortal) and he would have all of Haki at the strongest stage there is. Dio just needs to stop time and get everyone away from harm. Same with Daivolo who can just use Epitaph to see the future. Tooru just needs to chill cause WOU Just Solo‘s (it’s literally stated that it cannot be beaten unless you defy logic itself and only got beaten by a literally impossible power) And last but not least Funny Valantine has the ultimate Defence making it so that the Admirals wouldn’t even be able to hurt any of them and he could just go to a universe and take Roger or Luffy and throw them against the admirals or he could just take the other version of the admirals and throw them against them deleting their existence. Honestly only like 2-5 possible ways they would have won disappeared and like there are 20 more.
it’s interesting how no one is talking about his fundamental misunderstanding of logia dfs in the comments. Not saying that the admirals win, because they don’t, but he legitimately doesn’t know how logias work.
@@Read_surah_al-fatihahWhen I got into JoJo’s I was 14, I am 22 now and have read One Piece. One Piece is deceptively mature in it’s storytelling. I’d say both aren’t really meant for kids but you can do you lil bro
Love more one piece content, not saying you should become one of the one piece youtubers but i'd definitely love to see more videos like this and maybe even some talking about one piece and your thoughts in general
@@idkwelp1082yes fujitora from One Piece can just send all the JoJo villains into space he most certainly can what is devil fruit power in this video is this and disingenuously Lee biased so thank you for putting it out there
Actually Aokijis power is cold not ice, the hei-hei nomi literally translates to cold, and he has created snow and the like, he is a temperature manipulator
i can imagine pucci bringing kira along and then each admiral just mysteriously explode into nothingness after a small tap they felt like 3 seconds before
i havent finished reading part seven, but im pretty sure funny valentine is the only person who can go inbetween realities since anyone else would (correct me if im wrong here) be erased because there cant be 2 instances of the same thing in each universe, or something along those lines
@@aliastheabnormal Depends heavily on the matchup and scalling meta. I think Akatsuki actually do really well against many JoJo characters because (A) They are physically strong and, probably on the higher side of JoJo characters as even the weakest of them are supposed to be able to take on Tailed Beasts and their hosts, and the lowest of lowballs puts tailed beasts at mountain level and faster than lightning speed. And (B) They have their own hax abilities. Like the weakest considered Otsutsuki is basically immortal.
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND Yeah, i meant Kage level. Since mere fodder nin would fold against the major players. Maybe dojutsu users and Kekkei Genkai wielders could win. But i think it would have to be Itachi or Kisame levels.
@@aliastheabnormal i mean akatsuki do pretty start entering the kage level. something like akatsuki cells vs stardust crusaders or something like Jojo due would be nice, since both sides have something for themselves..
Actually wrong. Bites the dust triggers when someone reveals Kiras identity, no exception. He didn't use it on the stand users trying to kill him for two reasons. 1) Killer Queen is slower and weaker than the stands he was fighting. So if he were to plant Bites the Dust on them, he would probably be killed. Thats why for the whole fight he was using range bombs. 2) The stands users there wouldn't reveal Kira's identity. They would kill him. And for the woman, Kira revealed his identity to her so when she screamed for help, it would trigger.
Still listening through the video (enjoying it so far btw) but two things when talking Perfect Karz vs the Admirals: 1. You mentioned Aokiji's fruits isn't the cold ability but the ice ability. Technically though, the fruit is the Chill Chill Fruit, (not Ice Ice fruit) so his ability is the cold, just that the depiction given in the One Piece world is always turning moisture into ice. 2. Fujitora has a gravity fruit. That goes both ways, so if he can summon a meteor to earth from space, then he should be able to send an object from the surface into space. In my opinion, the way Karz was beat in JJBA by Joseph, is accessible to these two admirals in these ways. Awesome vid. Loving it. Will definitely be checking out the other "VS Video" right after.
It's a bit of a callback, but Medaka Box was a manga that had some wacky powers. I.e. control over electricity to the point of manipulating brain waves and muscles, automatic reflexes, and redirection of damage to the truly absurd dealing with reality bending and absolute damage. For a specific matchup, Kumagawa Misogi would be an interesting opponent for Gold Experience Requiem.
return to 0 vs all fiction? return to 0 wins only because GER itself uses it as opposed to giorno and stand work faster than human. also guy does not know stands exist but if does than it’s a quickdraw
@@Jamlord2061 I like that take on how it'd go down. I'm not 100% sold that stands are faster than humans as a Rule, but I do remember GER being CRAZY fast with its projectiles at Diavolo so you might be right there.
To offer an argument against Pucci specifically, we’ve never seen him use his previous abilities with MiH. Let alone at the same time. And, assuming he was capable, he probably wouldn’t bust out the disk thing right at the start. In terms of melee, he can’t really hit the logia users without Haki. He also needs time to speed up. Missing a shot might leave him susceptible to a counter. Additionally, and this is more of a stretch, Fujitora might be able to pin him down by creating high enough gravity around himself or in the area and waiting for him to strike.
Well c-moon manipulates gravity directly, mih is stated to manipulate gravity to accelerate space and time So you could argue he can use a version of c-moon (White snake idk) Haki and logia is an issue but you could say the same about stands or just get mih a loss there Haki willpower (kinda) , stands willpower / soul embodied Mih manipulate gravity on the scale of a universal black hole to accelerate time, I doubt he would be effected by gravity if he’s only sped up by his own ability
8:40 It's actually the opposite. The Hie Hie no Mi mean is cold. Ice is the form it manifests, but the general idea is that it's the element of cold itself. That's why he could square off against Akainu for 2 weeks. We do not know if he can create absolute zero temp at this point in the manga, but it's not outside of the realm of possibility.
Being faster than a logia doesn't grant one to physically interact them as a logia fruit alter the consumer's body into the element itself. Which vegapunk confirms. You're confused with special paramacia and logia.
@@aaronchoi6632wont still work we have seen logias getting disentegrated and exoloded and still alive its not about cellular level ..you need haki to touch their real body
we didn't mention dio (part 3) or diavollo on this list I noticed, we also didn't really discuss the tree admiral (forgot his name) so imma do that in the comments. Dio with time stop i think would ultimately do very little against the logia admirals, cause even with stopped time they're still just light/magma/ice so damaging them wouldn't really be an option for dio, but he could easily take out fujitora since fujitora without the time to alter gravity is just a man, i also doubt dio would do much to the tree since he can regenerate his body rapidly so long as hes rooted maybe if he got to him before he could transform but that would require some kind of fore knowledge that dio just doesnt have. as for diavollo I think it's a similar problem where his abilities could work on fujitora or sengoku so long as he gets to use it before sengoku can transform or fujitora can alter gravity, same with the tree you just need to catch him before the wind up but again would need a level of foresight the character doesnt have.
@@Kira22558 not really, he has 10 full seconds of frozen time so as long as he can run up and stab him in that time or just setup unavoidable thrown attacks it would be a pretty easy take down, assuming dio moved before fujitora
Wonder of u, still exist if the user is dead D4c can just hide in another dimension Pucci will be too fast Dio could do something with timestop (maybe but doubt it ) Diavolo only good think is future sight
Id say Funny Valentine and Tooru would solo the admirals out of pure hax alone. Pucci can reset the universe and has infinite speed, but he needs to accelerate to that point and Im not sure whether or not maiden heaven’s base speed is ftl. Dio is probably light speed or ftl since he was keeping up with jojos, but being ftl here is. it enough. He lacks the ap to do anything to any of the admirals, aside maybe fujitora and his time stop really isnt gonna do anything. Kars is kinda confusing since Ik not sure where he scales, but I do know of his hax, and idk if his hax will be enough to win here. The rest can do some damage but would be taken out here.
@@Kira22558 Thank you. I think in a straight up fight, jojo villians would win, but that is only because of Valentine and Tooru. But if you take them out, it becomes alot more plausible for the admirals to win. If you take out Valentine and Tooru, the only way jojos villians win, is because of pucci. So it essentially comes down to if the other jojo villians can hold out long enough for pucci to become so fast to the point the admirals cant react to. If pucci reaches those kinds of speeds, they win, if he doesnt, they lose.
@evanle2129 never use localisation, just, please don't, we aren't talking about filthy acts at a reasonable price or limp viskt. sorry if this comes across as rude
Let me give my opinion on how the Jojo characters would do in this hypothetical battle. Anytime Wonder of U is in a hypothetical VS battle, the team he’s on automatically wins. Just having the intent to pursue, attack or do anything involving him will cause calamity on the target, and it negates durability, making simple things like tripping or broken glass fatal. Only way to bypass him is bypassing logic entirely. And that’s not even considering Funny Valentine or the other villains. ULF Kars was only defeated because Araki needed some way to write him out of the story. DIO’s time stop may work well by placing Kira right behind any target to use Killer Queen, but that’s only assuming DIO will be reasonable and be willing to work as a team (most likely scenario he only cooperates with Pucci unless he has a reason to work with the other Jojo Villains). Kira’s most important ability in this fight is his first bomb, since Sheer Heart Attack doesn’t have enough explosive potential to deal actual damage to the OP Admirals. Bites the Dust is a backup plan incase they somehow start losing, and need to rewind in order to restart the fight. Diavolo is most likely the least helpful here, Epitaph only shows what will happen in 10 seconds, not how it happens. Time Skip also only works for himself, the others around him won’t remember the time-frame and cannot be affected. The only way his Time Skip can be useful is either for him avoiding attacks, or if it was already fated that he would be able to deal damage in the first place, in which he can skip straight to the aftermath of said attack. Pucci’s Time Acceleration needs a startup period, in which he will have to warn the others before starting his Time Acceleration in order to let them know to protect him at the beginning until he reaches a quick enough speed. DIO will most likely be the only one guaranteed to help, but he can use Time Stop whenever something may be about to hit Pucci, which should buy him enough time to buildup speed. Valentine can bring a new copy of anyone if they die to continue the fight, and he can camp in Love Train the entire fight if needed. Lastly, Wonder Of U simply exists, and just like that he’ll cause calamity to anyone with intent to attack him. Thank you for listening to my TED Talk. If you have any thoughts or counter arguments, feel free to reply.
The way you are going is basically a deliberate what if scenario of how the jojo villains wins but the same can be done on the other side. Let's say a admiral is hit by a calamity, Let's ignore obs haki, no matter the force of the mundane object or phenomenon, their bodies are intangible to the very cellular lvl, their entire being is intangible at will, so unless the object is coated on haki or a natural counter it won't work ( natural counter gas limits too ), no matter the nature of the attack ( blunt, shockwave) so killer queen doesn't work too, on the other hand if any admiral hit a jojo villain directly, they are dead cause the ap and durability differences is way too much as jojo characters fight with stands. So basically i see it as a admiral can't attack cause love train and stand intangibility, but jojo villains can't finish them either cause of logia intangibility and their sheer durability. Note that the durability of df users and their intangibility are not the same so dura neg attacks don't matter as long as they are intangible.
@@obmis_arraid21 Your counterargument is the scenario if we do not consider verse equalization. In order for the fight to make sense, We will have to consider two possibilities: one where equalization is applied and that grants the OP Admirals to see Stands and interact with them, or the one without, making the Jojo villains unable to attack Logia users. The argument for verse equalization is since Stands are a manifestation of the soul, being spiritual energy in a sense. This makes it akin to Haki, meaning Stands will be able to make contact with the Admirals. This also means Kenbunshoku Haki can allow OP characters to detect Stands, as both are spiritual energy. However, I will admit that I cannot give the most unbiased argument, as I have not gone through the entirety of One Piece. The best I can say is that it will be a stalemate, as D4C’s will let Funny Valentine bring forth unlimited copies of all the Jojo Villains, and cannot be interacted with from within Love Train. I’ll agree to a stalemate since I do not have sufficient information from both sides.
@@itzmike7360 fair point. Also appreciate the unbiased nature of the feedback.I don't like verse equalization because it's very deliberate as in that case will the admiral develop stands too since it's equalized with haki ( if stand=haki, logically haki=stand right ?), which ones then ? That makes the whole thing complicated, that's why i imagine those battle to take place on a neutral ground where each sides have their own abilities and properties.
Well I’m pretty sure kars has one of the best regenerative abilities in anime. He also functions like a broken mohoraga. So after taking a few hits he will adapt to them just like what we’ve seen with Joseph.
@@blokvader8283 sure but im talking abt the force the admirals can produce not their actual abilities. Akainu's haki infused punches, even without magma, would punch a hole right through kars.
@@Kira22558 Nothing is going to happen really, if giorno is there. No progress will be done. I dont see anyone of the warrior in the tournament by passing giornos ability
13:35 a problem is that he’s wrong here. Every stand evolution we saw before Stone Ocean was either Requiem or Acts vs Pucci who manifested a new stand that left the namesake behind. Pucci’s had replaced his stand with another, he is unable to use Whitesnake. The closest thing we have to that is (PART 8 SPOILERS) Soft and Wet the ability mixed with Killer Queen and the former Soft and Wet, however this stand had entirely new powers and couldn’t use things like sheer heart attack. Jojo still wins but he slipped up here.
k so I have some points I wanna share like some counter strategies and stuff the admirals can use. if we're assuming Kizaru's light works the same way as the light produced by the sun he's already more than capable enough to kill both DIOs before they can do anything about it. for Kira and Killer Queen I'd say it depends on if he can actually touch them with their logia powers or if his hand will sink in or they'll fall to bits and reform. he can definitely touch Sengoku and Fujitora but Fujitora will most likely just send Kira plummeting through the earths crust or drop a meteor on him and Sengoku can create massive shockwaves with his palms and feet much like Whitebeard. as for Pucci he is way way way WAY too fast for them yes but we don't know if he can ACTUALLY damage them with just physical attacks and we never saw C-Moon or MIH use the disks so it is possible he doesn't have them. even if he did he might not be able to extract disks from the logia users. for Kars Fujitora is actually the perfect counter because he can just send him shooting into space or down to the earths core but if Pucci can deal with Fujitora first then there isn't much the admirals can do other than just absolutely gank the shit out of him. for Love Train he technically needs the girl there as well to use it because it was actually the ability created when the saints corpse merged with her and then deemed him worthy enough to use it so if the admirals figure out "hey the beam he's hiding in is coming out of that girl" they can go destroy her and the corpse and then Valentine has no option but to run away or die. and finally for the case of WOU. this is a character that is quite possibly hard countered by Fujitora and maybe even Aokiji. with their pure hearts and high sense of justice they haven't done much wrongs in their life in fact Fujitora removed his eyes because he didn't wanna see all the atrocities/ injustice in the world so Fujitora can just simply walk up to him and mercifully kill him with gravity as he will hold no ill will towards him and Aokiji might just freeze him or sum shit idk. and if all else fails Fujitora can just drop a giant meteor on everyone
Phantom Dio is def not faster than the admirals. Not even including Kizaru. One Piece characters in general are pretty darn quick nowadays. Dio in timestop should honestly just drink the admirals.
You made one mistake here: Logia Devil Fruit abilities don't allow their users to turn into their element at will, the users _become_ that element. Their bodies turn into that element at a molecular level, this is a permanent change. As such any attack that is not coated in Armament Haki or uses an elemental weakness of theirs will not deal any lasting damage on them. It won't even touch their actual, physical bodies, they will simply regenerate. As such, Kuzan (Aokiji), Sakazuki (Akainu), Borsalino (Kizaru) and Aramaki (Ryokugyu) have literal invulnerability hacks in this fight. This entire fight is likely going to start off with a bunch of characters on both sides getting taken out, with a handful ending up locked in a stalemate, as they can not harm each other. Though honestly I have no idea how Stands would interact with Logia abilities. Could White Snake steal their memory discs? Technically speaking it can not make contact with their physical bodies. How would Bites The Dust interact with them? A bomb is nice, but can you really just blow up an element? There's a lot of questions that I don't think can be answered here.
Fujitora's Press-Press Fruit sort of hard counters D4C (without Love Train of course) since the reason why parallel world versions attract to one another and also why Valentine is the only one to able to safely interact with his parallel world versions is due to gravity. As long as Fujitora creates gravitational fields around himself and his allies, there's not much Valentine (again without Love Train) can do against them.
d4c is made of gravity, there nothing any fruit can do to change so it will always be able to travel through dimensions however the parrellel versions might not be as effective but it will still work tho
Ok but Pucci's power is not just being fast. His acceleration is due to him being able to control gravitational fields, so I think he would be a perfect counter for him.
23:00 GER is actually confirmed to be the strongest stand physically in jojo a go go (official art book written and illustrated by Araki and his company, lucky land communications). Even without its “RTZ” ability, it would beat star platinum in a fist fight.
0:55 The problem here is this: In JoJo, people get super powers (stances) and are able to kill people in less than a second. In one part, people train and gain the ability to destroy armies and cities in seconds.
On how Wonder of U might take out Akainu: The potency of the bad luck scales up in severity depending on what gets attempted, and it ignores or erases durability as well. Most likely, Akainu's heart would just stop as he winds up an attack specifically targeting Tooru, which might not be enough to kill him but would certainly mess him up.
dude, every JoJo villain can solo all the admirals combined, maybe except Dio Brando / DIO, because vampires is afraid of light. If JoJo Protagonist vs the Admirals, the admirals has more fighting chance
Yeah I kinda agree with that. Can’t see Dio or Diavolo doing too much to the admirals. And Kira sucks in an actual fight. But part 6 and on? Pucci, Funny and WoU? They slaughter, their hax are nutty by that point.
@@wr5488you kind of already create a gas Cannon how is the one piece Admirals going to get slapped up by pretty much everybody and JoJo ignoring the fact that they can't be touched because they have devil fruit powers and they're all so loggias that's fucking insane for you to say that
Ultimate Kars solos. He can learn from and adapt to the skills and abilities of his enemies in real-time and can make himself temporarily immune to lava. Kars can copy the powers of all life forms and that would include Devil Fruits wielded by Humans (since he can copy and 100x Joseph's Hamon) and greatly improve their power. Hell that means if Kars sees the Admirals using Haki, he could just choose to have all 3 forms of Haki at the Advanced level and far above anything we've seen so far. If Kars knows about Gear 5 - he can just mimic the Nika Fruit to a level far above Luffy.
I agree with most of this. I don't think he would be able to mimic Gear 5, I personally don't think from what I've seen him do, he would be able to copy something like that. If he was then he'd also be able to solo verses like Bleach(just copy gremmy, Kenny, or Ywhach), Jojos(literally loses to the second of 9 protagonists btw), or Dragon Ball(Yep just become Xeno) That being said, currently yea he absolutely SLAMS One Piece I could be wrong tho, and feel free to correct me, this could be an interesting debate.
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU I don't see what's stopping Kars from mimicking Gear 5 since he gains the abilities of every being to ever exist. Sun God Nika had the same powers as Gear 5, we don't know if he naturally was like this or if he had eaten the Nika Fruit, but he is still a person who at one point had those powers. But even if not he'd just need to see Haki in action and massively boost all 3 forms to just blitz the Admirals. Hell on top of that Kars could mimic the powers of Minks, Oni, Fishmen, Lunarians and the Elders if he wanted to. Imagine Kars using Fishmen Karate x100 times stronger than Jimbe, or Electro x100 times stronger than the Dukes. Hell, Kars also has the powers of all *plants* (we see him turn his hand into a flower at one point) - Kars could turn his hand into any Devi Fruit, take a bite, and give himself that Fruit's powers.
He would have to absorb Luffy to get gear 5 and his will would have to match the will of Nika but at the end of the day Haki transcends all so if he learns it it’s GG
@@PlanetZoidstarSun God Nika wasn’t a real physical being. It’s a belief construct created by slaves hundreds of years ago that manifested itself into reality with it’s first user JoyBoy. Basically it’s not an organism but moreso an ability so he can’t replicate that
One piece villain ability: I can control light
Jjba villain ability: it just works
it doesn't just *works*
it doesn't work at all
@@signlessnyx imagine explaining king crimson and epitaph to a friend who doesn't watch jojo's
Jojo villains abilities are based in theoretical physics which means they can do whatever they want if they stick within the higher dimensional stands we can explain it by Theoretical Physics it is the peak of human knowledge about logic we shouldn't be surprised if Araki himself appears.
@@Quwucuqin that's not how theoretical physics works
gravitational fate is ideological manifestion Dio's efforts in the main universe subsequently making everything doesn't just work in theory since they're predistanced to meet the truth which is the path of justice, something not in line with Jojo villains ideals
@@Quwucuqin the thought of araki being the villain is kinda redundant since both logic and illogic have have found their conclusion part 9 is probably going to get more political about jodio's individualism
i just imagined Pucci just carrying Kira at unseeable speeds around the place just helping him unconsentually touch all the admirals one by one
how could someone counter bites the dust wonder of you combo
kars bites the dust would also be funny with him just sharing the information and them just dying
Kira experiences euphoria as soon as he touches HIMkainu's hand, talks to a therapist and lives a normal, quiet, and peaceful life thanks to HIMkainu.
@@Jamlord2061Kaleb completely forgot: Akainu and Sengoku(as far as I remember) have CONQUERORS HAKI. So that will immediately take out Kira and Tooru. They both have by far the weakest wills. Follow that up with a Falling Lava, Sweeping Tundra combo from Marineford, and Pucci is going to have a tough time getting close. Pucci has the speed, but not the speed perception.
Kars is by far the biggest threat(bias because he's my fav) because he's the only one with the potential to instantly learn Haki during the fight. He can take Akainu, Aokiji, Fujitora, and Greenbull with his transformations. Hamon, and if he learns Haki, can help him go Asuras Wrath against Sengoku. Kizaru would be the most difficult.
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 Kars only way of counter is just yeeting him to space honestly. Like as long as he ain't getting softlocked he ain't dying. Kars has 400 IQ and that's more than enough to be hard to kill.
jojo stand belike: oh i cant even destroy a building but can reset a fcking universe
Jojo characters have too much hax
Cheap Trick can take out most of these character, and that Lil shit is only good for being a universal translator
@@idkwelp1082almost all of jojo powers is just hax
@@idkwelp1082waiter waiter! There’s too much hax in my hax soup!
The thing about a lot of the stands is they do hit with enough force to level a city in a single rush but the force is focused into and does expand so it only damages what they are hitting
Kars: where the hell is Valentine!!
(In an alternative dimension) valentine: yo you the king of the pirates?
Roger: yeah
Valentine: good can you do me a favor?
Roger appears laughing!
Sengoku: What have you done? We're all dead!
Valentine: I was warned about this, but I didn't believe him!
*Whitebeard pops up from underground,
Big Mom comes flying on her umbrella,
Kaido full frontal slams from the clouds.
Garp laughs with a bag of rice crackers*
Sengoku: We're all gonna die!
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702 id pay to have that animated.
@@wonder-of-drip Wonder of U: We need to leave, right now
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702that would be hilarious it'd be like avengers endgame if thanos was royally fucked from the beginning
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702when even FATE ITSELF is scared, you know that’s terrifying
DIO declares himself the new King of the World, starting a massive civil war.
Dio would be a weak fodder in one pièce .
@@mazeluchi9508 Maybe, but we can't count out his charisma.
@@justinweber4977 agree on that
@@mazeluchi9508 dio wouldnt be fodder, hes at least top 6
@@khadizaanwarjolly5779 in term of speed he IS ok ; but he Can hurt Almost nobody from one pièce ; their durability IS too High .
Just imagining every single jojo villain chilling playing cards inside love train while also discussing plans is horrifying yet amusing.
The idea of Pucci just running up to the Admirals at the speed of light and being like, “Yo this is my buddy Yoshikage Kira” and then all of them just blow up is really funny to me
Edits:
A lot of these replies are really dumb… this original comment was referencing the scenario Kaleb describes at 20:46… go watch it before you comment.
I should also mention that a little earlier than the time stamp I posted, Kaleb states that this scenario is only possible if we’re applying JoJo videogame logic to the fight, so can y’all stop getting on my back about that one too?
For God’s sake none of my statements are meant to be taken literally. Are the powerscalers really this dense? It’s a joke, nothing else.
@@frozenburrito2.087 good fanfiction when speed of light IS random in one pièce ; and explosion will do nothing to logia ; Kira cant even hit them .
@@mazeluchi9508 Kira’s explosions work on an atomic level. Even if logias transform, they will be destroyed.
@@frozenburrito2.087 Kira need to hit them first troll ... Kira cant hit them ... Kira cant make explode something he never make contact with lol .
I dont Care about one pièce ; but what i hâte its peoples like you wanking fodders like Kira when this fodder would not even beat ussop ; too weak ; too slow ; need to make contact for Make his power work ; dam even a fodder from one pièce would destroy Kira .
@@mazeluchi9508 Pucci is shown to be able to move faster than stone free's punches which scale with star platinum who out punches Silver Chariots slashes. Silver Chariot is fast enough to cut a beam of light. Pucci is over hundreds of times faster than any of them. But if they had a dolphin I guess Pucci would be screwed,
@@FalcloneDustforlife you know Kira would be also affected by Pucci made in heaven speed right ? And Pucci alone will do nothing to amirals .
What really makes this scary is that canonically DIO and Pucci got along.
Furthermore, Pucci can see in stopped time. That means that you're dealing with essentially two time independent entities that know how each other fights and functions. Not to mention the fact that Kira, not wanting to be seen, would likely collaborate in the background, either with Funny Valentine or DIO and Pucci.
Best case scenario, you're 100% going against Kars, Funny, Kira, Toru, Diavolo, and DIO and Pucci as they work together.
Worst case, Kars, Diavolo, and Toru are gonna fight you independently, while Kira, Funny, and Pucci all rally under DIO to jump y'all asses. Teamwork makes the dream work, and fighting against them as a proper fighting unit is a nightmare.
The problem is, king crimson"s and the world"s destruction capability are not doing a thing to ridiculous people like akainu,
So it's just valentine, kira, tooru.
@@Kira22558 dio tells kira to bomb the one in front of him, dio stops time and puts kira behind one of the admirals, restarts time, admiral gets blown up, freeze time to get kira out. Only need to do that once or twice to make a massive difference
@@thatoneguy6318 Kira cant touch them
Hère your fanfiction IS donne .
@@mazeluchi9508 can you explain your reasoning
@@thatoneguy6318 they are intangible ; and this fodder cant even fly lol .
The idea of tooru And Satoru hiding inside love train is horrifying
Admirals approaching Tooru.....calamity activated....a tsunami wipe them all out
Perfect Kars just scooping up some sea water like a fkn pelican and throwing it on them
@obmis_arraid21 nah, but like, what if it was a really big pelican
@@obmis_arraid21 Ay. We got Timestop, Timeskip, Speeding Up Time, Time Reverse.. we got the whole remote control
get DIO to throw sea water in time stop lololol
Ultimate Kars solo's the verse.
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiFr
The jojo villians slam. The Admirals definitely have higher AP and speed but the stand abilities are too busted. Wonder of U and Made in Heaven clear. Adding in love train is just over kill.
Agreed but otherwise the JoJo verse gets wiped from existence
@@elzyofficial9087 Yeah that´s the point of them having abilities? The admirals also get slamed if you quit the fruits from the equation
@@consumomerca I’m talking about all of the busted villains, if they weren’t in the fight the verse is getting wiped apart from GER. sorry.
@@elzyofficial9087 that's not true, even if you take the villians out of the equation they'd still get dealt with by GER, Tusk act 4, and soft and wet 'go beyond'
@@Rdc_Dom Tusk act 4💀no admiral is getting hit by Tusk act 4, but I’m just being real here. Also Soft and Wet Go Beyond is good as the bubbles go through any barrier but you still need to factor in the durability of these men. That’s why I purposely said GER.
Everyone tryna put powerful stands in the verse
Me: cheap trick
TRUE ASF
They can't even see him
@@KoullerQueenthey don’t need to for cheap trick to trigger though, so it’s still wraps
Fucking hell 'Future sight' HELLO?!?!?
Future sight ain't going to do anything if they can't do anything if everything they try to get rid of it just reverse to the holder @@firdanharbima6997
You guys seem to be forgetting that killer queen doesn't need to touch them. Kira just has to put a bomb in an object, and if the admirals touch that object, the bomb will be transferred to them.
This makes the Pucci Kira combo very deadly.
Also I think he can still blow up logias, since he can blow up inanimatr objects as well.
The issue with blowing up a Logia is that... well, the Logias can put themselves back together. Notably Kizaru was cut in half and was just like "Huh" before beaming himself together again, but we've seen worse examples even earlier in the series, like someone having all their body broken using his electric element to puppeteer himself back into place, same person restarted his heart when someone made it stop. Logia are only rampantly BS in Pre-Timeskip, mind, but Haki isn't something Kars could adapt to instantly.
@@leothewhiteranger That's fair. Though I personally believe that Kira's bombs just disintegrate you into nothingness. Its weird like that.
And I don't really wanna talk about Kars or Vampire Dio.
@@leothewhiterangerdoesn't kira's bomb destroy things on an atomic level? No trace. If a bomb gets on akainu then akainu and every bit of magma becomes a bomb that if sets off destroys all of it.
@@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862 that's fair, I didn't consider that
@@Balazs1102_ Vampire Dio being here is the funniest OHKO I've ever seen. One shot by Kizaru.
Unfortunately, Jojo antagonists have playground level "nuh uh" abilities. Unless observation/armament haki becomes reality shattering, it's curtains. The only thing to say they can **MAYBE** take it is a combined wave of conqueors haki able to take out all except for maybe dio and kars
nuh uh abilities are their only way to get away of trouble most of the 6
then you have kars who wants all the smoke
@@signlessnyxConsidering Kars got a perfect grasp of hamon. He would most probably be interested in mastering haki as well.
@@luckedout2131 Jesus, imagining Kars with 100x stronger haki than the guys who we can only assume are the greatest users of it in the verse is insane. Blasting a whole hemisphere into unconsciousness or something.
@@eggroll3055İ visualised that and i am shivering in my timbers.
The One Piece admirals watching as some funny cat blitzes them, pokes their ally's shoulder, and then they just get atomized:
Explosions can't kill the admirals
@@deeznuts6939 the explosion erases you from existence negating durability/any defensive ability
@@Gab12345BRyeah no killer queen doesn’t erase anything from existence, and we’ve seen that explosions deadass do not affect the admirals without the use of haki, kizaru was hit with an explosion and got back up after
@@deeznuts6939 Killer Queen turns any object that it touches into an explosive, doesn't matter if they're immune to damage or made out of grass, they'll be turned into a bomb that explodes every cell from the inside out. It bypasses durability. They may be able to survive but they'll 100% injured from it at the very least.
@@donquitaviousdemitrusbarrh5608it turns them into the bomb lol, so they explode.
Atomic bomb vs coughing baby
LOL TRUE
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@@Sommarnuddaren more like 3 nuclear bombs vs missiles
Delusional
Every jojo villains wins this but the fight ain't that one sided
toru hiding behind valentines love train would just straight out solo the entire OP verse💀
Solo's almost any verse honestly
Redirects all misfortune + spawns misfortune on all who oppose you...
Just imagine Valentine and tooru playing chess or chatting while the admirals have too deal with earth ending calamities.
Wouldn't Kars just be able to replicate haki at the highest degree since he's the ultimate lifeform. It would be like him learning Hamon.
I think Kars just solos
He's just that guy
Yeg
Haoshoku (mb if I misspelt it) isn’t inherited but it’s in the character if yk what I’m going at here. So kars could just copy whatever gives a op char hao and use it himself, his mental ability would be insanely strong
@@RealistChairHow did this guy lose in Jojo?
@@Jpeg_skeleton The narrorator itself (author) said it was literally a combination of Plot Armor, Joseph's luck, and the world itself deciding he was too dangerous, lol.
If you're asking for the literal way he lost, then he was sent into space where he couldn't adapt or anything (he froze and lacked oxygen, so he couldn't do anything).
old man walks up.
Ground shakes
they all fall into the ocean
Thanks to love train they'll be fine and another part of world will fall into the ocean.
Bro nothing would happen when they get into water😂
I think he’s talking about WoU, not the admirals
@@fran_valz he's talking about wou and how devil fruit users die in water
@@fran_valzthat's actually a funny comment given recent one piece chapters
From what little I know of jojo, even before watching this, jojo characters are basically top tiers in terms of hax movesets. One piece paramecia users get pretty wacky. Then bring in jojo abilities and they make paramecium users look tame by comparison.
Honestly i think bringing the jojo villians to series like Bleach and Naruto would also make good video topics.
One Piece is way physically stronger (like waaaaay stronger) but Jojos wins easily with hax.
How tf do they fight someone like Funny?
Finally someone with braincells.
@@wr5488 Kars could actually scale up to OP universe with enough time wich is easy because he is immortal.
@@wr5488 And not to mention he could learn Haki in just seconds and be the best wielder of it just like he did with hamon.
WoU makes akainu trip on a fly and get his head split in half
Worse thing is it could actually happen . Remember the droplets of water becoming bullets for the MC
@@makryd3162 Yeah,if it wants even breathing could combust someones lungs.
The luck devil fruit from film Gold lowkey counters the cataclysm effect of wou.
@@ballergamerdestroyer4455 dont remember him being an admiral
@@Foodstory-oi2eu I know, all Im stating is that theirs a luck devil fruit out there, Im not saying shes apart of this, and she isnt a an admiral regardless.
Admirals got power, durability and endurance. The villains got speed and hax out the wazoo. If Perfect Kars is there then there's a decent chance he learns Haki by being hit by the Admirals. It just feels appropriate he could eventually learn that. I'm giving it to the Jojo villains. They have D4C: LT which is busted as a defensive, Wonder of U for instant retaliation if pursued, Kars for raw intelligence, Kira for bombs and SHA, DIO, Diavolo, and Pucci for time related shenanigans. It's a wrap for the Admirals.
Only 1 one the villains gets speed.(Pucci.)
@@Kira22558 Which honestly is enough. With nfinite speed Pucci basically plays defense and offense easy.
The Admirals DO in fact have the capability to deal with Kars, which is Fujitora rocketing him off into space, which we have no reason to think he can't do considering the fact Fujitora can pull fucking meteors
“And then, Kars simply stopped thinking, again.”
Considering how Fuji can just jet around on a floating rock chunk he definitely has the ability to try and fling anyone into the stratosphere... Or at least if he can't do it directly (aside from story plot holes) he could do the ground below someone
Would be a matter of if the anti gravity disabled Kars due to speed long enough to yeet him into space or if Kars could get free first
Yeah, i think people forget Fujitora is restricted by his morals. If you let that man go wild he's nuking the earth
I mean, why the hell would he send him into space off rip? I'd also reckon it's much easier to pull something INTO Earth's gravity rather than out of it.
@@eggroll3055 There's no way to kill kars except for sending him into space cause the guy literally withstood everything that was thrown at him and pulled an instant Mahoraga and adapted + if he ate any devil fruit he'd be too OP cause he would just get the ability but 100x stronger as proven in part 2 and stated in the manga
Kars is a walking mahoraga with the biology of every thing that exists in the world
and he also has sunlight magic
And is smart too
Dang i didn’t know mahoraga was a cripple
@@Funghios Not smart, intelligent. Being smart and intelligent is different things
I think we underestimate Fujitoras power over Gravity, he could easily send people to space but doesn't due to his honor. In a fight against these guys with zero bystanders, he could banish them to space.
Well Aokiji actually does have a fruit involving temperature rather than just ice, because we're told he can also unfreeze things too and his fruit is called the "Chilly Chilly" fruit which hints at it just being the fruit of cold.
What is it called in japanese? It could be a translation convenience
@@Kanamo4781 hie hie no mi. hie means cold, chilly, and the absent of heat
@@Kanamo4781 Hie Hie.
Diavolo donuted people years before Akainu popularized it!
The Boss is a genius!
bro diavolo was donuting people 12 years before glazekainu was
Wonder of U alone kills op verse
Wasn’t expecting so much likes. Much appreciation
Wonder of U already is crazy, make them get past Made in Heaven or Love Train first😭
@@grixan8012made in heaven and love train are fodder compared to one piece top tiers
@@YoastnToastn until u see valentine bring an alternate version of joy boy and it’s gn luffy😭
If wonder of U can bs a category FUCK tsunami then yea 100%
@@YoastnToastnmy favorite one piece moment is when one piece top tier reset the universe 👍
Something else to consider about Kars.
Hell, Kars has the powers of all life forms in the world.
That includes plant life forms too (we see him turn his hand into a flower at one point).
You know what are plant life forms in One Piece?
Devil Fruits.
Kars could turn his hand into any Devi Fruit that exists, take a bite, and give himself that Fruit's powers at the Awakened level.
If he absorbs someone with a devil fruit he would also get the powers
Or just absorb Zona fruits
Well currently in the manga of one piece Dr vegapunk basically says devil fruits are more just lab technology rather than actually organic fruits so he probably couldn't do that but since he learned hamon instantly and it was stronger than anyone else's he might be able to do that with haki
Yeah They ain't doing shit against Kars with an awakened Hito hito No Mi Model: Nika
@@nathanpfirman625 And Kars could mimic Blackbeard's biology to give himself multiple DF powers.
5:01 Fujitora wasn't really trying to break out of the cage. Doflamingo was technically still protected by the world government, so he had no authoritative jurisdiction to do anything about it.
Yeah Fuji definitely seems like the kind of guy to fake help stop the cage (act like he’s helping but really use any of his power) while citizens get torn to shreds or crushed by rubble. That seems very in character. He’d totally let Doflamingo slaughter thousands of innocents so he could make the WG look bad in public. Totally.
Weren't both Doffy and Law stripped of their war lord status immediately?
Also that just makes Fujitora a sucker then, but that's the case with most admirals.
@@shirothr5384 No it's because morally he didn't believe that the marines had the right to come in and play hero after they caused the whole situation in the first place. So he let Luffy and the rest save the day.
5:03 Oh Fujitora could absolutely break out of the bird cage, he just didn't because he wanted Luffy to beat Doflamingo in order for this event to be impossible to cover up and lit a fire ubder the government's ass
Doffy was still under government protection at that point too iirc. He didn't have the jurisdiction to stop him lmao.
Pucci, Valentine and Tooru: untouchable and durability negation
Kars: immortal
Kira: durability negation
DIO and Diavolo: confusion and save teammates
What is the One Piece verse gonna do bruh😭
The problem is:
Diavolo"s king crimson"s attack power is kind shit, so his punchs isn't doing a thing to any of one piece top villains.
Same thing with dio.
Kira on otherhand is not surviving a direct fight without getting stomped.
@@Kira22558 you forgot that diavolo can be support class,with epitath he can tell when and where they are going to get attacked,and he can just skip the attacks,repeat,and profit.
How you know toruu have durability négation ? When part 8 characters dont even have any durability 🤣🤣🤣
@@mazeluchi9508most of the arguments comes from mental gymnastics and shallow statements, that's why i kinda dislike powerscaling
@@mazeluchi9508 because f****** raindrops can go through ppl thanks to his ability so yes, durability negation
All the jojo villains get into love train, then kira plants bites the dust on one of them and they shout his name at the admirals. On the next loop they all just stay in love train and wait for the admirals to suffer their fated death. Ezpz
The jojo villains?
@@AffectionateLocomotive yeah, the villains from jojo
Don’t even have to do that. If they all just sit in Love Train and have WoU or Tooru stand in front while the admirals charge them, then watch as calamity takes them all out 😂
@@demontiming3234 true lol, there's a lot of ways they could combine powers to win easily
Sheer heart attack bout to be Akainus worst nightmare
Fujitora can take care of Sheer Heart Attack and made Kira immobile due to gravity
Why? It can’t do anything to him. Yes Akainu has the highest heat signature out of everyone but SHA can’t hurt him and it’s too slow.
@@Ghostface833SHA's explosion strength correlates to temperature, the hotter it is, the stronger it gets.
@@takebacktheholyland9306 Kinda hard to avoid something you cant see. It is still a stand and therefore invisible to non stand users
@@Ghostface833speed doesn't matter when you can't see it.
People forget about how ruthless the Jojo villains are dio might play around and find out but the other villains no
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that l'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
Hey, good video, but Fujitora is actually implied to be very much able to break out of the Bird Cage. He is an admiral so since Doffy is a Celestial Dragon, he can't hurt him. He was holding back with the meteor showcase, and when the Bird Cage broke everybody fell like they should since they were pushing someting and it ceased to exist except Fujitora since it's implied that he wasn't pushing the Bird Cage with his full power. Also slight spoiler, but Oda said in the newest SBS that Fujitora has a special-grade sword so he is very capable.
not even that but because fuji didn't want the marines to take credit,he wanted it to be luffy which is why he said his bet payed off when luffy won,dont think fuji cares that doffy is a celestial,especially when doffy wasn't even officially a celestial
Oh another thing to take note of is that in the jojo OVA, stand users can cover their bodies with their stands. If the calling here were able to do that, it would give both invisible and intangible armor
Ova ain’t canon nor would that slide with verse equalization
It's not just the OVA, it's literally everywhere in the series
Even if we considered that a thing they could do, it wouldn't give them intangible armor because they'd just hit through it
@@deeznuts6939 exactly if the stand gets hurt then so does the user
@@twistedlight3432stands can only be hurt by other stands, but stands can interact with humans.
SPOILER:
Example of this is Doppio directly attacking and killing Abbacchio and not his stand. This means that it’s selective and can still interact with people while being intangible and unable to take damage. I don’t agree with this but it’s possible that it works that way. And as for verse equalization let’s say that Armament Haki is equivalent to a stand. So if someone has a stand then they also have armament haki, and someone with armament haki will have a stand. And for equalization I personally believe Dio, Pucci, and Kars, would have some form of conquerors haki and maybe Kars would even have Advanced Conquerors haki. Also Kars has cells from every living thing that exists so that means he also has every devil fruit. Verse equalization is beneficial to both sides but I believe it’s way more useful for JoJos.
I feel like logically, if devil fruits have a soul, at the very least zoans, pucci could steal a devil fruit disc
but that depends on if pucci still has whitesnake since we are counting thme at their peak
5:04- He can also summon meteors at a higher quality than Planet Waves....and this wasn't him going all out.
That's cool but how do you get past a literal universe resent, or unpredictable sudden death
I'm a One Piece fan btw so I'm definitely not biased
annndddd still gets shat on by pucci
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZUthat is true. They’d probably end up in the water like the Stone Ocean crew did which would not be ideal. I think Kizaru could take advantage of literally being light and just go with the flow of the universe reset but he might be redshifted pretty fast. The only one who stands a chance is Kizaru as everyone else in their Logia forms would just accelerate to the point of disintegration as they most likely won’t count as a human anymore (besides Fujitora and Sengoku) but light is immortal in that it only stretches
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZUuniverse reset isn't an actual attack, cause it never directly harm or kill anyone, pucci benefit from that speed and attack himself that's still not enough
The OP admirals get absolutely STOMPED out by the JoJo team.
Only by 3,(PUCCI, VALENTINE, TOORU. )
@@Kira22558 + kars cause he'd adapt and also if yk if he consumes a op devil fruit he'd get the powers but 100x stronger like what he did with hamon in part 2
@@babyyoda4203 diavolo would basically be having a guy with 10 sec future sight on their team and dio would be pretty much useless
@@Foodstory-oi2eu I mean Dio does have his Vampire powers like freeze touch and Space Ripper stinger eyes + other vampiric powers but he doesn't use all of them in Part 3. The proof that he still has them is in the Vanilla Ice part. So, he is still kinda useful and another thing to add-on is he can still evolve the World into TW:OH. Hence, if the battle goes on he will eventually becomes stronger. Besides that, Timestop + Made in Heaven combo exists and the more he uses his Timestop the longer the duration extends.
If you think about it, Space Ripper Stingy Eyes can hurt every devil fruit user because its not lasers its water sent out at an insanely fast speed
Dio the type of guy to replace the water in his blood with seawater and shoot it like lasers
Well it’s not normal water that gets devil fruit user weak, it’s actual bodies of water that do thst
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodMahoraga do you think water just phases through the Logia User's body when drinking
Still can’t hurt them.
It's not the water that kills them they just can't swim so kars would turn into a bird and chuck them in the ocean
"i wont low ball the jojo villians"
then immediately really high balls the one piece admirals
How highball?
@@Kira22558 like saying kira has the same durability as DIO
@@Malo_mart man was talking about highballing the Admirals, not the jojo's, but since you brought it up the stand users are just humans with normal durability, it's their stands that have the high durability, and it's only high since their AP is high as well, the same goes for anyone
@@Kira22558he said the admirals are almost moon level they are country level at most bc if they were moon level they wouldn’t need buster calls or anything like that
What if Funny Valentine used D4C to grab Heaven Ascended Dio and beat up the Admirals
Assuming dio over heaven/ascended dio would ever care.
@@Kira22558 assuming he's canon in the first place
@@obmis_arraid21with alternate universes, there's probably one where Eyes Of Heaven's events actually happened tbf
@@JohnBryett-wt9ujIt can’t be since it’s stated that only one version of D4C, and the holy corpse
HAD is still something that would’ve happened had the stardust crusaders or anyone else not stopped dio, and you got to remember every single activation of the world increases it’s duration by a minuscule amount
The admirals charge, WOU activates, commences Tom and Jerry scene where they slide off the docks into an ocean
Facts.😂
They can fly except sengoku if he doesn't learn the air jump ability already ...I know all of them are busted
@@firdanharbima6997 you really desperate to glaze them admirals, huh?
@@yourlocalmoron4832 it's not desperate it's using logic
@@firdanharbima6997 nah, its desperate cuz u in every other reply section trying to defend them fraudmirals
Okay i thought of this, just Valentine and Kira. Valentine sit in the love train and just keep spawning Kira and throwing him at the admiral. Eventually, he just has to touch them with killer queen. Hell what if he has a version of Kira far away from the battle with goggles to detonate the bomb the other kira's put on the admirals. Even if the kira thrown at the admiral dies before detonating the bomb another version of kira standing far away prob could. make them explode, it's the same stand why could it not.
Valentine could get alt universe killer queen to send out an army of sheer heart attacks
Kira Can touch logias ? 🤡
@@MrSleepparalysismanimagine d4c love train with wou
@@mazeluchi9508 one answer
“BITE ZA DUSTO!”
@@MrSleepparalysisman still cant hit them 🙋🙋
Couldn’t fujitora theoretically recreate that one move jumping Jack flash dish on Jolene and use that against Kars? Essentially making a vacuum on earth to disable him
or you know just fling him to space? I mean he can literally bring in meteors from space so i don’t think it’ll be that hard
@@CarrySource three words, Wonder of You
@@wafflelover5999 bru i was just talking about fujitora and kars, not the wank ahh villain from part 8
Small correction that could make a huge difference: you cant harm a Logia by being faster than them. Logias are made of their element, not transforming into it.
A special paramecia like the mochi mochi fruit needs to manually dodge, but Logias are impermiable outside of sea stone, sea water, haki, or the elemental weakness (if it exists)
That doesn’t change anything.
They would still get destroyed by Kira since even inanimate objects get destroyed on a Atomic level.
Kars is the Ultimate Life Form giving him access to to anything related to animals and plants which is why he can use Ultimate Hamon so by that definition he can just create and eat all Devil fruits (his body can just regenerate when he would die from it since he is literally immortal) and he would have all of Haki at the strongest stage there is.
Dio just needs to stop time and get everyone away from harm.
Same with Daivolo who can just use Epitaph to see the future.
Tooru just needs to chill cause WOU Just Solo‘s (it’s literally stated that it cannot be beaten unless you defy logic itself and only got beaten by a literally impossible power)
And last but not least Funny Valantine has the ultimate Defence making it so that the Admirals wouldn’t even be able to hurt any of them and he could just go to a universe and take Roger or Luffy and throw them against the admirals or he could just take the other version of the admirals and throw them against them deleting their existence.
Honestly only like 2-5 possible ways they would have won disappeared and like there are 20 more.
it’s interesting how no one is talking about his fundamental misunderstanding of logia dfs in the comments. Not saying that the admirals win, because they don’t, but he legitimately doesn’t know how logias work.
This man starting wars with this one
Men ( jojo ) community versus children community ( one piece )
@@Read_surah_al-fatihahit's the opposite since older fans dgaf anymore and left
@@signlessnyx 👍
Ah yes, anime stereotypes. This is a manly mature thing to do. “Jojo is for BIG BOYS ONLY. I stayed up until 8: 30 watching it! I really am an OG”
@@Read_surah_al-fatihahWhen I got into JoJo’s I was 14, I am 22 now and have read One Piece. One Piece is deceptively mature in it’s storytelling. I’d say both aren’t really meant for kids but you can do you lil bro
Love more one piece content, not saying you should become one of the one piece youtubers but i'd definitely love to see more videos like this and maybe even some talking about one piece and your thoughts in general
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Kuzon has the hie-hie fruit which means chilly Hiehie"means "feeling chilly/cold" in Japanese. So his powers are the cold not just ice
Fujitora can send Kars to space
Honestly with that logic, Fujitora could just fling the entire villain cast into space.
@@idkwelp1082yes fujitora from One Piece can just send all the JoJo villains into space he most certainly can what is devil fruit power in this video is this and disingenuously Lee biased so thank you for putting it out there
I do not believe it should work on toru because of the power of calamity but might work on the others
@@oscar06norgebtw16 not really, Wou can keep fighting even if tooru gets taken out.
@@Kira22558 yes that as well but i do not see tooru being take out at all as Wou should being calamity to fujitora before he can do anything to tooru
*Fujitora causally launching Kars to space*
Couldn’t even catch him if he wanted to
@@kaidenhaines1714?
Actually Aokijis power is cold not ice, the hei-hei nomi literally translates to cold, and he has created snow and the like, he is a temperature manipulator
It's funny how he literally states that aokiji's power is ice with such confidence even though it is already very well spread that his power is cold
i can imagine pucci bringing kira along and then each admiral just mysteriously explode into nothingness after a small tap they felt like 3 seconds before
i havent finished reading part seven, but im pretty sure funny valentine is the only person who can go inbetween realities since anyone else would (correct me if im wrong here) be erased because there cant be 2 instances of the same thing in each universe, or something along those lines
Also something cool to note, Dio and Aokiji both have the same voice actor in sub
Kaleb are you going to do the Akatsuki matchup video? JoJo vs OG Naruto matchups would also be fun...
I think it would be the same as One piece if not worse. As i can only see the Kages and the Ohsostuki's being able to match Stand abilities.
@@aliastheabnormal
Depends heavily on the matchup and scalling meta. I think Akatsuki actually do really well against many JoJo characters because (A) They are physically strong and, probably on the higher side of JoJo characters as even the weakest of them are supposed to be able to take on Tailed Beasts and their hosts, and the lowest of lowballs puts tailed beasts at mountain level and faster than lightning speed. And (B) They have their own hax abilities. Like the weakest considered Otsutsuki is basically immortal.
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND Yeah, i meant Kage level. Since mere fodder nin would fold against the major players. Maybe dojutsu users and Kekkei Genkai wielders could win. But i think it would have to be Itachi or Kisame levels.
Oh god imagine Hidan with Anubis
@@aliastheabnormal
i mean akatsuki do pretty start entering the kage level. something like akatsuki cells vs stardust crusaders or something like Jojo due would be nice, since both sides have something for themselves..
Here's an idea, Jonathan and or Joseph Joestar in demon slayer.
Or all 3 to make it fun
@@MrSleepparalysisman 3? i said two people
@@glerbus9561 also add johnny why not
@@asdqwe4123 im going for more, breathing techniques in a breathing power system
joseph because jonathan would snap every single demon in half without exception
20:50 Actually, no, I believe Bites the dust is incapable of being inserted in Stand users.
That makes sense because Kira only tries to plant Bites the Dust on Hayato and the medical woman.
Kars and part 1 dio are there so same thing
Actually wrong. Bites the dust triggers when someone reveals Kiras identity, no exception. He didn't use it on the stand users trying to kill him for two reasons.
1) Killer Queen is slower and weaker than the stands he was fighting. So if he were to plant Bites the Dust on them, he would probably be killed. Thats why for the whole fight he was using range bombs.
2) The stands users there wouldn't reveal Kira's identity. They would kill him.
And for the woman, Kira revealed his identity to her so when she screamed for help, it would trigger.
Part 1 Dio
Still listening through the video (enjoying it so far btw) but two things when talking Perfect Karz vs the Admirals:
1. You mentioned Aokiji's fruits isn't the cold ability but the ice ability. Technically though, the fruit is the Chill Chill Fruit, (not Ice Ice fruit) so his ability is the cold, just that the depiction given in the One Piece world is always turning moisture into ice.
2. Fujitora has a gravity fruit. That goes both ways, so if he can summon a meteor to earth from space, then he should be able to send an object from the surface into space.
In my opinion, the way Karz was beat in JJBA by Joseph, is accessible to these two admirals in these ways.
Awesome vid. Loving it. Will definitely be checking out the other "VS Video" right after.
I'd say Kuzan just flash freezes the environment. That way it wouldn't be considered an "attack" and Wonder of U wouldn't activate.
It's a bit of a callback, but Medaka Box was a manga that had some wacky powers. I.e. control over electricity to the point of manipulating brain waves and muscles, automatic reflexes, and redirection of damage to the truly absurd dealing with reality bending and absolute damage. For a specific matchup, Kumagawa Misogi would be an interesting opponent for Gold Experience Requiem.
return to 0 vs all fiction? return to 0 wins only because GER itself uses it as opposed to giorno and stand work faster than human. also guy does not know stands exist but if does than it’s a quickdraw
‘that doesn’t exist’ vs ‘that didn’t happen’ which was triggered in nonexistent time
@@Jamlord2061 I like that take on how it'd go down. I'm not 100% sold that stands are faster than humans as a Rule, but I do remember GER being CRAZY fast with its projectiles at Diavolo so you might be right there.
I like the idea of Sheer heart Attack only target Akainu.
7:15 If Kars literally absorbs someone with a Devil fruit he would get the power of that fruit just want to mention that
Then he lose the ability to swim unless he altered his DNA.
@@Kira22558 I mean he doesn’t need to swim for that fight and he can fly so he’s never going to be in that situation anyway
@@Kira22558how about he absorb a fishmen too. And just switch on and off
@@opatzo9165 he already got fish DNA
he could make devil fruit using birds, squirrels and butterflies among other things
To offer an argument against Pucci specifically, we’ve never seen him use his previous abilities with MiH. Let alone at the same time. And, assuming he was capable, he probably wouldn’t bust out the disk thing right at the start.
In terms of melee, he can’t really hit the logia users without Haki. He also needs time to speed up. Missing a shot might leave him susceptible to a counter.
Additionally, and this is more of a stretch, Fujitora might be able to pin him down by creating high enough gravity around himself or in the area and waiting for him to strike.
Well c-moon manipulates gravity directly, mih is stated to manipulate gravity to accelerate space and time
So you could argue he can use a version of c-moon
(White snake idk)
Haki and logia is an issue but you could say the same about stands or just get mih a loss there
Haki willpower (kinda) , stands willpower / soul embodied
Mih manipulate gravity on the scale of a universal black hole to accelerate time, I doubt he would be effected by gravity if he’s only sped up by his own ability
Pucci: "Ay y'all come look at this!!"
Every Marine: 🔥
8:40 It's actually the opposite. The Hie Hie no Mi mean is cold. Ice is the form it manifests, but the general idea is that it's the element of cold itself. That's why he could square off against Akainu for 2 weeks. We do not know if he can create absolute zero temp at this point in the manga, but it's not outside of the realm of possibility.
Being faster than a logia doesn't grant one to physically interact them as a logia fruit alter the consumer's body into the element itself. Which vegapunk confirms. You're confused with special paramacia and logia.
don't think a logia's gonna survive a bomb that disintegrates things at an atomic level, but you stand beside ur values ig.
@@aaronchoi6632 never brought up killer Queen. Just pointed out a mistake.
@@aaronchoi6632wont still work we have seen logias getting disentegrated and exoloded and still alive its not about cellular level ..you need haki to touch their real body
@@emmanueladekunle3088 disintegrated, yes. Getting their atoms blown to bits in atomic fusion? No.
@@aaronchoi6632kizaru would survive light is subatomic
we didn't mention dio (part 3) or diavollo on this list I noticed, we also didn't really discuss the tree admiral (forgot his name) so imma do that in the comments. Dio with time stop i think would ultimately do very little against the logia admirals, cause even with stopped time they're still just light/magma/ice so damaging them wouldn't really be an option for dio, but he could easily take out fujitora since fujitora without the time to alter gravity is just a man, i also doubt dio would do much to the tree since he can regenerate his body rapidly so long as hes rooted maybe if he got to him before he could transform but that would require some kind of fore knowledge that dio just doesnt have. as for diavollo I think it's a similar problem where his abilities could work on fujitora or sengoku so long as he gets to use it before sengoku can transform or fujitora can alter gravity, same with the tree you just need to catch him before the wind up but again would need a level of foresight the character doesnt have.
@@sirpotatolord2219 the problem is, dio would need Pucci help to takes out fujiora
@@Kira22558 not really, he has 10 full seconds of frozen time so as long as he can run up and stab him in that time or just setup unavoidable thrown attacks it would be a pretty easy take down, assuming dio moved before fujitora
Let's be real here, the admirals could and would kill the stand users before their ability becomes a problem
They can’t kill pucci, funny, wou, or dio and all of the above would be able to protect the other jjba villains
Wonder of u, still exist if the user is dead
D4c can just hide in another dimension
Pucci will be too fast
Dio could do something with timestop (maybe but doubt it )
Diavolo only good think is future sight
You made a mistake on aokiji, his fruit makes ice using the water from the enviroment, like on gas state, hie hie no mi, makes things cold
Id say Funny Valentine and Tooru would solo the admirals out of pure hax alone. Pucci can reset the universe and has infinite speed, but he needs to accelerate to that point and Im not sure whether or not maiden heaven’s base speed is ftl. Dio is probably light speed or ftl since he was keeping up with jojos, but being ftl here is. it enough. He lacks the ap to do anything to any of the admirals, aside maybe fujitora and his time stop really isnt gonna do anything. Kars is kinda confusing since Ik not sure where he scales, but I do know of his hax, and idk if his hax will be enough to win here. The rest can do some damage but would be taken out here.
Finally someone who didn't overrated the gang.
@@Kira22558 Thank you. I think in a straight up fight, jojo villians would win, but that is only because of Valentine and Tooru. But if you take them out, it becomes alot more plausible for the admirals to win. If you take out Valentine and Tooru, the only way jojos villians win, is because of pucci. So it essentially comes down to if the other jojo villians can hold out long enough for pucci to become so fast to the point the admirals cant react to. If pucci reaches those kinds of speeds, they win, if he doesnt, they lose.
@@evanle2129most reasonable jojo fan in the comments lol
@@jokein1227 Thank you. But im really a fan of both so Im not too bias on one side.
@evanle2129 never use localisation, just, please don't, we aren't talking about filthy acts at a reasonable price or limp viskt.
sorry if this comes across as rude
Let me give my opinion on how the Jojo characters would do in this hypothetical battle.
Anytime Wonder of U is in a hypothetical VS battle, the team he’s on automatically wins. Just having the intent to pursue, attack or do anything involving him will cause calamity on the target, and it negates durability, making simple things like tripping or broken glass fatal. Only way to bypass him is bypassing logic entirely. And that’s not even considering Funny Valentine or the other villains. ULF Kars was only defeated because Araki needed some way to write him out of the story. DIO’s time stop may work well by placing Kira right behind any target to use Killer Queen, but that’s only assuming DIO will be reasonable and be willing to work as a team (most likely scenario he only cooperates with Pucci unless he has a reason to work with the other Jojo Villains). Kira’s most important ability in this fight is his first bomb, since Sheer Heart Attack doesn’t have enough explosive potential to deal actual damage to the OP Admirals. Bites the Dust is a backup plan incase they somehow start losing, and need to rewind in order to restart the fight. Diavolo is most likely the least helpful here, Epitaph only shows what will happen in 10 seconds, not how it happens. Time Skip also only works for himself, the others around him won’t remember the time-frame and cannot be affected. The only way his Time Skip can be useful is either for him avoiding attacks, or if it was already fated that he would be able to deal damage in the first place, in which he can skip straight to the aftermath of said attack. Pucci’s Time Acceleration needs a startup period, in which he will have to warn the others before starting his Time Acceleration in order to let them know to protect him at the beginning until he reaches a quick enough speed. DIO will most likely be the only one guaranteed to help, but he can use Time Stop whenever something may be about to hit Pucci, which should buy him enough time to buildup speed. Valentine can bring a new copy of anyone if they die to continue the fight, and he can camp in Love Train the entire fight if needed. Lastly, Wonder Of U simply exists, and just like that he’ll cause calamity to anyone with intent to attack him.
Thank you for listening to my TED Talk. If you have any thoughts or counter arguments, feel free to reply.
The way you are going is basically a deliberate what if scenario of how the jojo villains wins but the same can be done on the other side. Let's say a admiral is hit by a calamity, Let's ignore obs haki, no matter the force of the mundane object or phenomenon, their bodies are intangible to the very cellular lvl, their entire being is intangible at will, so unless the object is coated on haki or a natural counter it won't work ( natural counter gas limits too ), no matter the nature of the attack ( blunt, shockwave) so killer queen doesn't work too, on the other hand if any admiral hit a jojo villain directly, they are dead cause the ap and durability differences is way too much as jojo characters fight with stands. So basically i see it as a admiral can't attack cause love train and stand intangibility, but jojo villains can't finish them either cause of logia intangibility and their sheer durability. Note that the durability of df users and their intangibility are not the same so dura neg attacks don't matter as long as they are intangible.
@@obmis_arraid21 Your counterargument is the scenario if we do not consider verse equalization. In order for the fight to make sense, We will have to consider two possibilities: one where equalization is applied and that grants the OP Admirals to see Stands and interact with them, or the one without, making the Jojo villains unable to attack Logia users. The argument for verse equalization is since Stands are a manifestation of the soul, being spiritual energy in a sense. This makes it akin to Haki, meaning Stands will be able to make contact with the Admirals. This also means Kenbunshoku Haki can allow OP characters to detect Stands, as both are spiritual energy.
However, I will admit that I cannot give the most unbiased argument, as I have not gone through the entirety of One Piece. The best I can say is that it will be a stalemate, as D4C’s will let Funny Valentine bring forth unlimited copies of all the Jojo Villains, and cannot be interacted with from within Love Train.
I’ll agree to a stalemate since I do not have sufficient information from both sides.
@@itzmike7360 fair point. Also appreciate the unbiased nature of the feedback.I don't like verse equalization because it's very deliberate as in that case will the admiral develop stands too since it's equalized with haki ( if stand=haki, logically haki=stand right ?), which ones then ? That makes the whole thing complicated, that's why i imagine those battle to take place on a neutral ground where each sides have their own abilities and properties.
@@itzmike7360 yk why did funny valentine never keep a copy of himself in a bunker or smth, would cause him to never lose tbh
@@khadizaanwarjolly5779 Johnny used TA4 to kill him in every universe, so he stopped existing completely.
Kars does not have the durability to survive any of the admirals attacks
Well I’m pretty sure kars has one of the best regenerative abilities in anime. He also functions like a broken mohoraga. So after taking a few hits he will adapt to them just like what we’ve seen with Joseph.
@@idkwelp1082 yeah, Kars is immortal unless ya give him the perfect Cell treatment
Kars DID survive inside of Magma lmaooo
@@blokvader8283 sure but im talking abt the force the admirals can produce not their actual abilities. Akainu's haki infused punches, even without magma, would punch a hole right through kars.
@@ichigoglazer24 , and kars would immediately regenerate that hole, and adapt to haki
Jojo vs One Piece is just straight up unfair.
one can stop time
one can rewind time
one can skip time
one can speed time
one is narcissist
one can reunited you with your twin
Top 7 JoJo characters vs the tournament of power
Good idea
Only ones that isn't getting annihilated are: tooru, valentine with LV, Pucci with MIH.
@@Kira22558 Giorno?? Josuke soft and wet go beyond??? Hell cheap trick
@@Kira22558 Nothing is going to happen really, if giorno is there. No progress will be done. I dont see anyone of the warrior in the tournament by passing giornos ability
@@Zaki3655-rm4vtgiorno physical too weak so it's just stalemate via RTZ.
13:35 a problem is that he’s wrong here. Every stand evolution we saw before Stone Ocean was either Requiem or Acts vs Pucci who manifested a new stand that left the namesake behind. Pucci’s had replaced his stand with another, he is unable to use Whitesnake. The closest thing we have to that is (PART 8 SPOILERS) Soft and Wet the ability mixed with Killer Queen and the former Soft and Wet, however this stand had entirely new powers and couldn’t use things like sheer heart attack. Jojo still wins but he slipped up here.
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k so I have some points I wanna share like some counter strategies and stuff the admirals can use.
if we're assuming Kizaru's light works the same way as the light produced by the sun he's already more than capable enough to kill both DIOs before they can do anything about it.
for Kira and Killer Queen I'd say it depends on if he can actually touch them with their logia powers or if his hand will sink in or they'll fall to bits and reform. he can definitely touch Sengoku and Fujitora but Fujitora will most likely just send Kira plummeting through the earths crust or drop a meteor on him and Sengoku can create massive shockwaves with his palms and feet much like Whitebeard.
as for Pucci he is way way way WAY too fast for them yes but we don't know if he can ACTUALLY damage them with just physical attacks and we never saw C-Moon or MIH use the disks so it is possible he doesn't have them. even if he did he might not be able to extract disks from the logia users.
for Kars Fujitora is actually the perfect counter because he can just send him shooting into space or down to the earths core but if Pucci can deal with Fujitora first then there isn't much the admirals can do other than just absolutely gank the shit out of him.
for Love Train he technically needs the girl there as well to use it because it was actually the ability created when the saints corpse merged with her and then deemed him worthy enough to use it so if the admirals figure out "hey the beam he's hiding in is coming out of that girl" they can go destroy her and the corpse and then Valentine has no option but to run away or die.
and finally for the case of WOU. this is a character that is quite possibly hard countered by Fujitora and maybe even Aokiji. with their pure hearts and high sense of justice they haven't done much wrongs in their life in fact Fujitora removed his eyes because he didn't wanna see all the atrocities/ injustice in the world so Fujitora can just simply walk up to him and mercifully kill him with gravity as he will hold no ill will towards him and Aokiji might just freeze him or sum shit idk.
and if all else fails Fujitora can just drop a giant meteor on everyone
Phantom Dio is def not faster than the admirals. Not even including Kizaru. One Piece characters in general are pretty darn quick nowadays.
Dio in timestop should honestly just drink the admirals.
You made one mistake here:
Logia Devil Fruit abilities don't allow their users to turn into their element at will, the users _become_ that element.
Their bodies turn into that element at a molecular level, this is a permanent change.
As such any attack that is not coated in Armament Haki or uses an elemental weakness of theirs will not deal any lasting damage on them. It won't even touch their actual, physical bodies, they will simply regenerate.
As such, Kuzan (Aokiji), Sakazuki (Akainu), Borsalino (Kizaru) and Aramaki (Ryokugyu) have literal invulnerability hacks in this fight.
This entire fight is likely going to start off with a bunch of characters on both sides getting taken out, with a handful ending up locked in a stalemate, as they can not harm each other.
Though honestly I have no idea how Stands would interact with Logia abilities. Could White Snake steal their memory discs? Technically speaking it can not make contact with their physical bodies. How would Bites The Dust interact with them? A bomb is nice, but can you really just blow up an element?
There's a lot of questions that I don't think can be answered here.
Assuming that the logia as you said turn I to that element if pucci uses mih they get cooked and also wou still deals with them easily
Kars can litetally copy all of their haki at the first glance,make it way stronger solo them.this should not even be a debate
@@DamianShivelythere's nobody in one piece getting taken out by JoJo villain what the hell are you smoking
@@BaIdEagIeno kars whould lose
@@cjcj4861 listen I'm willing to listen to your points on why but I can assure if there's anyone that kilss One piece it is wonder of you
Fujitora's Press-Press Fruit sort of hard counters D4C (without Love Train of course) since the reason why parallel world versions attract to one another and also why Valentine is the only one to able to safely interact with his parallel world versions is due to gravity. As long as Fujitora creates gravitational fields around himself and his allies, there's not much Valentine (again without Love Train) can do against them.
d4c is made of gravity, there nothing any fruit can do to change so it will always be able to travel through dimensions however the parrellel versions might not be as effective but it will still work tho
Ok but Pucci's power is not just being fast. His acceleration is due to him being able to control gravitational fields, so I think he would be a perfect counter for him.
23:00 GER is actually confirmed to be the strongest stand physically in jojo a go go (official art book written and illustrated by Araki and his company, lucky land communications). Even without its “RTZ” ability, it would beat star platinum in a fist fight.
definitely not true considering diavolo survived that beat down ger threw out,only died after he got out of the river
@@Bon-Kaizer nah he died in the river
@@khadizaanwarjolly5779 nah he pulls himself out then a junkie under a bridge kills him then he goes into the death loop
@@Bon-Kaizer he was already dead when he got hit into the river bro
The junkie killing him is the starting point of the loop@@Bon-Kaizer
0:55 The problem here is this:
In JoJo, people get super powers (stances) and are able to kill people in less than a second.
In one part, people train and gain the ability to destroy armies and cities in seconds.
On how Wonder of U might take out Akainu: The potency of the bad luck scales up in severity depending on what gets attempted, and it ignores or erases durability as well. Most likely, Akainu's heart would just stop as he winds up an attack specifically targeting Tooru, which might not be enough to kill him but would certainly mess him up.
Atomic bomb vs coughing baby type setup
dude, every JoJo villain can solo all the admirals combined, maybe except Dio Brando / DIO, because vampires is afraid of light. If JoJo Protagonist vs the Admirals, the admirals has more fighting chance
If it’s just Kars, Fujitora could still send him into space.
If it’s its Kira, he gets maybe one kill before the rest body him.
@@gemraldkid6304 i know the fact they never beat Tooru, Diavolo, Funny and Pucci
If verses are mixed then Kars gets every Devil Fruit because of Ultimate Life Form
funny thing: verse equalization is a dumb headcannon
@@Gab12345BR its not dumb If there wasnt Verse equliation u could just use a stand as a shield
the biggest problem with kars is eating a teammate and then becoming novel kars
Kars would blow up cause you can’t eat more then one df and Kara wouldn’t know this.
@@raccoontheblack6694 well the thing is kars wouldn't need to eat them he has biology of all living things
I would love to see Kizaru fighting Tobi and dying to severe lung cancer
“Aokiji power is ice not cold” his devil fruit is the cold-cold fruit💀
one piece admirals were cooked since the start
Takes away Pucci,tooru, valentine and the admirals clears.
@@Kira22558 Yeah if you take out nearly half of the villains it's easy /s
the admirals get slaughtered 💀
The admirals destroy all the villains up to part 5
@@imapro2597 hell no
Yeah I kinda agree with that. Can’t see Dio or Diavolo doing too much to the admirals. And Kira sucks in an actual fight.
But part 6 and on? Pucci, Funny and WoU? They slaughter, their hax are nutty by that point.
@@wr5488you kind of already create a gas Cannon how is the one piece Admirals going to get slapped up by pretty much everybody and JoJo ignoring the fact that they can't be touched because they have devil fruit powers and they're all so loggias that's fucking insane for you to say that
@@imapro2597 the only villain they’d might have a shot at defeating would be kira but idk what they’d do against ultimate kars and dio with the world
Ultimate Kars solos.
He can learn from and adapt to the skills and abilities of his enemies in real-time and can make himself temporarily immune to lava.
Kars can copy the powers of all life forms and that would include Devil Fruits wielded by Humans (since he can copy and 100x Joseph's Hamon) and greatly improve their power.
Hell that means if Kars sees the Admirals using Haki, he could just choose to have all 3 forms of Haki at the Advanced level and far above anything we've seen so far.
If Kars knows about Gear 5 - he can just mimic the Nika Fruit to a level far above Luffy.
I agree with most of this. I don't think he would be able to mimic Gear 5, I personally don't think from what I've seen him do, he would be able to copy something like that. If he was then he'd also be able to solo verses like Bleach(just copy gremmy, Kenny, or Ywhach), Jojos(literally loses to the second of 9 protagonists btw), or Dragon Ball(Yep just become Xeno)
That being said, currently yea he absolutely SLAMS One Piece
I could be wrong tho, and feel free to correct me, this could be an interesting debate.
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU I don't see what's stopping Kars from mimicking Gear 5 since he gains the abilities of every being to ever exist.
Sun God Nika had the same powers as Gear 5, we don't know if he naturally was like this or if he had eaten the Nika Fruit, but he is still a person who at one point had those powers.
But even if not he'd just need to see Haki in action and massively boost all 3 forms to just blitz the Admirals. Hell on top of that Kars could mimic the powers of Minks, Oni, Fishmen, Lunarians and the Elders if he wanted to.
Imagine Kars using Fishmen Karate x100 times stronger than Jimbe, or Electro x100 times stronger than the Dukes.
Hell, Kars also has the powers of all *plants* (we see him turn his hand into a flower at one point) - Kars could turn his hand into any Devi Fruit, take a bite, and give himself that Fruit's powers.
He would have to absorb Luffy to get gear 5 and his will would have to match the will of Nika but at the end of the day Haki transcends all so if he learns it it’s GG
@@Reesemike Exactly, and since Kars 'is' the pinnacle of all life, your Will as a Conqueror cannot get higher than that.
@@PlanetZoidstarSun God Nika wasn’t a real physical being. It’s a belief construct created by slaves hundreds of years ago that manifested itself into reality with it’s first user JoyBoy.
Basically it’s not an organism but moreso an ability so he can’t replicate that
when somebody eats a logia they become that element 24/7
Don’t let bro find out about the elders
Akainu fighting wonder of u with very high amount of bloodlust and his misfortune gonna be a heart attack from all that rage 🤣
How about WOU TO drop billion ice on him?
@@Kira22558 lmfao thats also really good too, hes just pursuing WOU to get comically crushed by a shit ton of ice 🤣