Challenger - the story of Peugeot in the 1984 WRC

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @Marvdogger2
    @Marvdogger2 4 роки тому +55

    A company in Monaco now owns all the footage shot for Peugeot. Real shame they have no interest in releasing the archive.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому +12

      Very interesting to hear.

  • @VectorOfKnowledge
    @VectorOfKnowledge 2 роки тому +21

    Love these vintage documentaries. Information stated plainly and to the point, lots of technical details, great footage, and music used sparingly and tastefully.

  • @barristanselmy2758
    @barristanselmy2758 2 роки тому +6

    Man these the sweetest cars ever. They just never looked or sounded any better than this here, The little 205, the AUDI. Man just so nostalgic to look at i grew up watching rallies in the early 90's as a kid. Seeing this again now, it's great. I used to watch the Poss in his Subaru Kiwi Rally Fan here

  • @edak482
    @edak482 3 роки тому +13

    Let's not forget those RALLY-MECHANICS working under the sky in all weather conditions, day and night. My greatest respect for those guys that never get mentioned.

    • @tomlepski8306
      @tomlepski8306 Рік тому +2

      I will forever remember Boreham's Mick Jones among the cream of live stage rally mechanics.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider 4 роки тому +10

    Was cheering Vatanen on in the Welsh forests in 84. Absolutely brilliant footage and showes once and for all that Audi were only winning against two wheel drive opposition and as soon as the T16 appeared they were no longer competitive. And yet they have milked that period for all its worth and really created the Audi brand. Marketing eh!!

  • @tomlepski8306
    @tomlepski8306 Рік тому +4

    Wow! What incredible and amazing historic footage! Well done Monsieur Mourey, just like CLIMB DANCE, this does justice to PTS.

  • @TCJD2024
    @TCJD2024 4 роки тому +5

    The Peugeot is my favourite classic rally car, and I watch this because I'm a huge fan of classic rally so this peaked my interest enough for me to watch it and I cant stop watching it

  • @richardbryant7505
    @richardbryant7505 4 роки тому +20

    Best rally channel on the tube

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому +6

      That really is very kind of you to say so. Thanks for such positive feedback.

  • @BungleBare
    @BungleBare 4 роки тому +13

    In every bit of footage of Group B rallies in Continental Europe until the end of ‘86 you can be assured of seeing spectators seemingly doing their best to get themselves killed. Crazy days.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 роки тому +5

      I can not imagine how much faster & difficult would have continue with the WRC Group-S which suppose to follow as next level mid-engine after Group-B.. so many secret prototypes that can be found in museums like : Audi Sport Group S, Peugeot 405 Turbo16 & Quasar, Lancia ECV1 & ECV2, Ford RS 200S, Mazda RX7S, Toyota MR-(222D), Lada Samara EVA, Seat ibiza bi-motor, Vauxhal Astra 4S/Kadett E-4S.. (Porsche, Talbot, Citroen & Mitshubishi dropped they 'r works very quickly after Group B banning but all were planning to enter in WRC Group-S..)

    • @Wirefox1
      @Wirefox1 3 роки тому +1

      And that's the main reason they banned the Group B cars. It wasn't really the speed or the skill it took to drive them, it was the fact that spectators got whipped up into a frenzy and couldn't/wouldn't be controlled.

    • @OrientedRain374
      @OrientedRain374 3 роки тому +1

      @@Wirefox1 Group B was banned due to the cars being too dangerous but also because of the spectators. There were many reasons but the main reason was the cars. Modern technology could bring group b back.

  • @christiandesayes4718
    @christiandesayes4718 Рік тому +1

    thanks for sharing from france my friend my 20 years old BACk

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  Рік тому

      Thanks for visiting

    • @christiandesayes4718
      @christiandesayes4718 Рік тому

      thanks for your channel and in uk you have all pieces of engine and all for english cars like in the usa good for you in france if you had a car of the seventies apart chinesse pieces of shit NOTHING ! happy week end to you

  • @ericcraig8205
    @ericcraig8205 4 роки тому +8

    Seems like yesterday,after group B it was never the same,great upload

  • @grantdeancommons5390
    @grantdeancommons5390 Рік тому

    Great footage and history of the classic rally stages ,one of my fave cars the Peugeot 205 turbo 16

  • @polzovatel009
    @polzovatel009 4 роки тому +10

    Damn, I never saw this archive, thanks a lot dude.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому +1

      Ah, hope there's some more in the channel that you like.

  • @mrmorizofan7001
    @mrmorizofan7001 Рік тому

    Those on route services are just pure gold. mechanics doing their things and drivers getting prepped to next stage

  • @emdub2003
    @emdub2003 Рік тому

    Only just found this channel. Amazing! Thank you so much for making this content available. What an era.

  • @SteveM-ly7oy
    @SteveM-ly7oy 4 роки тому +18

    I don't know where you get these from but I love them.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому +13

      I digitise old rally videos for free. So the tapes are supplied to me by various people - some have found me through UA-cam, others through Twitter or Facebook. Glad you like the material I share here.

  • @tomvarcoe3100
    @tomvarcoe3100 4 роки тому +2

    Amazing to be able to watch this years after the survivor cars are in collections .

  • @alexharris2313
    @alexharris2313 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing footage. Thank you for uploading

  • @garinakbar1907
    @garinakbar1907 4 роки тому +3

    You know what, The way Peugeot 205 debuted in 1984 season was later repeated by Peugeot 206, when the 206 debuted in Corsica, Acropolis, Finland, San Remo and then RAC just like the 205 goes, and also it achieves success the following year for both 205 and 206

  • @alc-d4163
    @alc-d4163 4 роки тому +2

    So glad that I stumble across this channel, can't wait to binge watch some more!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому +1

      What took you so long? Enjoy. :)

  • @mbturbo-bq3rg
    @mbturbo-bq3rg 4 роки тому +6

    Love it. They are (still) true beasts and what a sound. P.S. @ 0:51 homogaletion?

  • @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843
    @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic 👍👍 such iconic cars and era. Thanks

  • @roberthaviar8243
    @roberthaviar8243 2 роки тому

    Great documentary!

  • @lukaswilfinger8752
    @lukaswilfinger8752 4 роки тому +1

    what an amazing footage. thanks a lot for the upload.

  • @scoobyking555cm
    @scoobyking555cm 4 роки тому +1

    Simply awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏁

  • @cakeofthepan2233
    @cakeofthepan2233 2 роки тому

    Nana’s taking the kids for a day of knitting and rally 😂….those were the good times

  • @sarahtaggart7397
    @sarahtaggart7397 4 роки тому

    HAVE THIS ON TAPE FROM YEARS AGO SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH A LOT OF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS OF SAME ERA ALL BE IT THEY ARE NARRATED IN FOREIGN LINGO ! GREAT UPLOAD NICE TO SEE AGAIN ! 👍👍👍

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 роки тому

      If you have old tapes from this era then perhaps I can help. Easy to find me on Twitter and Facebook if you want to get in touch.

  • @happysnapper6132
    @happysnapper6132 4 роки тому +2

    Keep them coming buddy...

  • @lusilk7954
    @lusilk7954 3 роки тому

    many thanks 🙏🏼

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 4 роки тому +4

    And still they keep coming👌
    The car that saved Peugeot(road car that is, not the T16)

  • @riccardomorino2360
    @riccardomorino2360 3 роки тому

    Thank you for these fantstic videos

  • @theovermeersch9367
    @theovermeersch9367 4 роки тому +3

    Great content! 😊

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 роки тому +3

    Unbelievably awesome video. Many thanks vhs rallies🤝👌👍🤜🤛. Rock n roll man🤘. This is absolute gold💯 and I'm only 13 seconds in! I wander how many of those road versions are left? A GTI on steroids💪. They must be a good £200k plus now. I'm probably way off. More probably. Rarer than chicken teeth! I've seen lancia 037 road versions North of £300k

    • @chrisbeare9486
      @chrisbeare9486 4 роки тому +1

      I've only seen one at an autosport show! Agree so rare. Stunning

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 роки тому

      @@chrisbeare9486 I've never seen 1 in this country t16 or 037. I've only ever seen a legit rs200 driving c reg(early 86 when they 1st landed). It was about 1996 I saw the car literally driving normal down the road in North London. Pure white version. But I remember like it was yesterday. Even original Group A styled sierra (rs500 or not) and escort cosworths and lancia deltas are fetching 80 to 100 grand plus. They are absolutely amazing cars. 👍

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 роки тому +1

      @@chrisbeare9486 it's kind of laughable that r200 were like 18 grand brand new in 86 and a sierra cosworth 16 grand. They are more valuable now than some houses

    • @lukaswilfinger8752
      @lukaswilfinger8752 4 роки тому

      there are a couple left. in switzerland there is one for sale for 250k. couple years ago you can get one for 100k. crazy, but also an amazing car

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 роки тому

      @@lukaswilfinger8752 cool. my estimate wasn't far off then🤘. I'm not religious and even though ari vatanen never won the title in the 205,,he is still god to me for the way he drove that car. Unbelievably awesome. I still get goosebumps watching this stuff. Makes the current day version of wrc look like Thomas the tank engine. I still can't believe how good it was!!👍

  • @sportquattro8430
    @sportquattro8430 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome new find, thx!!

  • @AriVatanen1981
    @AriVatanen1981 4 роки тому

    Another great upload thank you 👍

  • @jamesrobert4106
    @jamesrobert4106 2 роки тому

    There is footage somewhere of a T16 in a service stop in Portugal, I believe having a mechanic remove 2 very cooked, spectator fingers from the rear intake radiator 😬

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  2 роки тому

      Heard that one so many times, without any official evidence, that I've long since filed it under urban myth. But it's a great bar tale.

  • @ranjitsian5481
    @ranjitsian5481 3 роки тому

    Good one

  • @peeterpeeretas1847
    @peeterpeeretas1847 4 роки тому +1

    Quality upload!

  • @jakeyorath2325
    @jakeyorath2325 Рік тому

    If I was hiring a guy to do the voiceover for a video about my homologation special, I'd make sure he could say "homologation"!

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 2 роки тому

    I heard Peugeot 504 and 206 won WRC 2 wheels category thrice in a raw before pulled out of the race?

  • @markc1456
    @markc1456 4 роки тому

    Awesome video! Anymore?

  • @MOSSFEEN
    @MOSSFEEN 4 роки тому

    Thanks for that really enjoyable

  • @paulleggett9735
    @paulleggett9735 4 роки тому +3

    Go on.. Say Audi again

  • @mahatmaaaa3955
    @mahatmaaaa3955 3 роки тому

    Paduu 🥺🥺

  • @Manufly59
    @Manufly59 10 місяців тому

    Who said: "If you want to win you need Finn!"

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 роки тому +2

    9:47...it's stocktaking time (brilliant! ) . No disrespect to the excellent commentary by Julian porter in the current day version but I way prefer the way this sport was presented back then and right up to about 02 to be fair. It was fine as a half hour end of day summary for each leg on eurosport or something. They have tried to make it too live and in your face now and it feels a lot more repetitive. I don't like the current day "power stage" thing either. Driver's points were a lot harder to earn back then and only the top 6 scored. The restart rules are a joke too. If a car crashes out? That should be it! I don't rate the likes of ogier and loeb as highly as Alen, Toivonen, Vatanen and Rohl by a long shot. And although helicopter shots are good.. They are completely over saturated now and that boring/almost depressing sound of the helicopter blade spinning round like a bloody giant lawnmower with the throttle stuck open. It was way classier and more watchable here.

  • @f2cmadmaxx
    @f2cmadmaxx 4 роки тому +2

    Ordee :D

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 2 роки тому

    Peugeot was favorite car for everyone in Africa until the domination of economic Japanese cars especially Toyotas.

  • @037cwash
    @037cwash 4 роки тому

    22.02-22.06 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @georgiosdavaroukas2793
    @georgiosdavaroukas2793 Рік тому

    Αρι....Αρι....Αρι....

  • @mohdjesriothman3360
    @mohdjesriothman3360 Рік тому

    this celica twin cam turbo ta22 is keep by toyota team europe in colgone germany

  • @ArZer
    @ArZer 3 роки тому +2

    How peugeot went from this awesome 205T16 to an Shit that is 307cc. Like what happened?

  • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
    @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 роки тому

    Was stage in 7:25

    • @Marvdogger2
      @Marvdogger2 4 роки тому +1

      George Karavasilis SS3 Loukisia

    • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
      @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 роки тому +1

      @@Marvdogger2 thank you I love the stage loukisia and why stop the stage in there

  • @guyjones3665
    @guyjones3665 4 роки тому

    Mid 80s snot rockets..

  • @makzym0109
    @makzym0109 4 роки тому

    on 0.52 he talks about homogalation?

  • @藤波恒一
    @藤波恒一 2 роки тому

    フロントノーズも短く 全長も短い ドライバーにとっては操り易い車両です ラリーは最高速2百キロクラシックなのでフロントノーズはあまり長くなくても良い フランスのラリーカーはゴタゴタしてなくてシンプルです タイヤフェンダーも前後あまり膨らんで居ない Bカーなので膨らましても良かったが 会えてプジョースポールは膨らませ無かった!今のラリーカーはタイヤからの空気?抜きのためサンドイッチが置けるほど前後を膨らまし空気?抜きをタイヤの後ろ側でやっているけどデザイン的には私は美しくない 空気抜きはしていないがイグニスのタイヤフェンダーはハウス はそんな感じでなんかブサイク?に診える。

  • @Jason-vp8nd
    @Jason-vp8nd Рік тому

    Oh my God but what about all the climate change oh my God aren't we supposed to be dead already over that SMH

  • @WannesDeBacker
    @WannesDeBacker 4 роки тому +2

    When Peugeots weren't absolute shit cars