How Eric Clapton FELL OUT with Jimmy Page
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Two guitar legends of the 60s and 70s. Eric Clapton of Yardbirds, John Mayall and Cream fame and Jimmy Page, of Yardbirds (as well!) and Led Zeppelin fame. But events unfolded leaving Clapton to lose trust and respect for Page. This music documentary explores exactly what happened.
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00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Yardbirds
01:51 - Page and Clapton
02:49 - Jam Sessions
03:22 - Immediate Records
05:28 - Separation
07:18 - Reunited
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I heard Eric mention Jimmy twice in interviews last year and did not in any sense get the impression that he "hated" him. Likewise with Page, who always speaks well of Clapton.
Clapton, according to his autobiography, admired jimmy but disliked Led Zeppelin because of their take on the blues. He was later flabbergasted when he realized that he wrote a song that used the Stairway to Heaven chord progression without realizing it!
@@andrewgood4230 I heard the Stairway To Heaven chord progression was previously used by someone else anyway.
Can you prove that in a court of law, or do you not know that western musical structure is limited, and often repeats itself? 12 cords in this one, and i love them all!
The descending base line precedes Bach, by a long margin.
Don't believe what you read on the internet!
You “heard” WRONG if you’re talking about Spirits “Taurus”.
And you probably are.
@@ezsmith3765 That's the one. Although I'm personally not familiar with it.
I say this is BS. These 2 this late into their careers would have a mutual respect for all that they have achieved. Saying they hate each other is probably really reaching out!
There is a bunch of "Why Eric Clapton hated.....!" and every single band uses guitars. My favourite is "Why Eric Clapton hated the Beach Boys!" and the reason is Clapton was hurt by getting hit accidentally by a Beach Boy fan.
I think this supposed “bitterness” between them is a bit overblown.
It was my understanding that it was Eric Clapton who pulled Jimmy Page out of the post Zeppelin doldrums in the early 1980’s and got Jimmy to join the ARMS tour.
Like Townshend did for Eric.
Actually it was Paul Rodgers who pulled Jimmy out, started him on the road to breaking his drug addiction, and had just got Jimmy to play again, forming The Firm with him. Eric contacted Paul, not Jimmy, but it was Jeff Beck, best mates with Jimmy who finally convinced him. Eric was just the one who started the Arms concert . To this day Paul and Jimmy are very great mates.
Yeh.. I also heard he had some part in helping page kick heroin at that time too.
This dude needs to work for the National Enquirer
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Hate is a strong word...
He's an anti-vaxer too and that's a certain type of person not really the nicest guy if you think of him for example creeping around behind George Harrisons back after his wife! Thats creepy...
@@anthonyfrancis2374
You sound really smart.
There's a lot of anti-vaxers around chief and more every day.Just ask Fauci.If you can find him that is. So,you think Clapton is a bad guy cause he don't want a shot? Are you still sheltering in place?
What'd you just blow in from stupid town Patrick? @@anthonyfrancis2374
Entirely speculative from lessor souls who often desire to cause riffs, infighting...
He's not an anti-vaxxer at all. He had 2 of the injections and had such extreme reactions to his hands that he was concerned his playing days would be over. Would you take up the offer of a third injection?
You missed the biggest point... Eric clapton referred jimmy page to meg patterson ... A scottish doctor who got them both off of heroin
Oh BS, they'll say anything to get ya to click
Yeah, this whole video is nonsense. The 1983 concert was put together to help Page out of a low point in his life, so obviously Clapton, Beck, and the others cared a lot for him. Also, in the 2000's they both got honored by Queen Elizabeth at an event, and you can see them talking together and laughing along with Beck and Brian May.
Wrong, the Arms concert was for Ronnie Lane who was suffering MS i believe.
In the Cream episode of Classic Artists, Eric said on the subject of that royally-endorsed concert that it was the only time he talked at any length to Jeff Beck, whom he didn't really know that well, and that it was obvious to him that Beck and Page both didn't exactly have a good time as Yardbirds. Eric has said elsewhere that Keith Relf was the only Yardbird he really got on with, and that he was indifferent to Dreja and took a real dislike to the bass-playing would-be-manager, we can deduce that mssrs McCarty and Samwell-Smith have made a lot of enemies over the years. (See also the recollections of J Page - and J Regan!)
@markhill9275 Yes, apologies, I should have been more clear in my comment. The concert was certainly for MS awareness. I intended to say that Page was seemingly encouraged to participate by his friends to get back into touring and allegedly beat his struggle with heroin around the same time as the concert tour. Regardless, I stand by the logic that because Clapton, Beck, and Page were willing to play together (Clapton and Beck multiple times after) and because Clapton has spoken highly about Led Zeppelin (Journeyman interview) and Page has spoken highly about Clapton even more recently on Instagram, any beef any of the three had has long been resolved.
I'm sure Clapton's comments about seeing early Zepp live are genuine because early Zepp was over the top. Plant was thought to be hyperactive early on due to his onstage antics. This video may catch the eyes of classic rock fans but I doubt much of it is close to the truth. However, yes it has been known in various insider circles for a long time that Page and Clapton dislike each other. I bet it's something more personal than just a few meager royalties from their early jam sessions together. They are both very wealthy and are regarded today as rock royalty so whatever it is, it's not money. It's more likely artistic because Zeppelin was the antecedent of what Clapton and his peers were doing.
I remember a Rolling Stone article saying "Zeppelin made Cream sound pale and disjointed". Stuff like that doesn't help old friends.
Rolling Stone magazine had zero good to say about Zeppelin from day one. They eventually gave in once LZ was the top band on the planet.
@@ezsmith3765 Which was a scant few years later.
I don't see any of that from Plant in the footage we have from Danmark Radio tv, Supershow and Texas Pop Festival.
@@3rdmm Saw both; Cream were better. Plant was an asshole, and Bonham overplayed through every song.
??? Who said they hate each other? People just make up whatever story they want, lol
well, this UA-camr did, some non-entity callaing himself 'music mongoose'. Please .... get an education, read some history & stop simply making thinng up. Awful.
I enjoyed the footage and the background stories, but they obviously don't hate each other. Clickbait title.
Obviously they don't dislike or especially "hate" each other. Stop using clickbait titles. Otherwise, I actually enjoyed the footage.
Lead guitar players are like gun slingers especially when they are young but when you meet as old dudes you realise it was all actually mutual respect and the joy you get from the friendship is priceless,,been there .
As I read in different interviews (if I'm mistaken, please feel free to correct me), Clapton was who brought/recommended Page to play at the ARMS concert in 1983. I think that Page was in the party at Glynn Johns' house when the idea took place and Clapton notice that Page wasn't in the roster and ask if he could play, with the concept of having the 3 Yardbirds guitarists. Once Page was onboard, he realized that he was the only one who didn't had a solo career. That's when he came up playing Who's to Blame, City Lights (from the Death Wish Soundtrack) and add Stairway to Heaven (instrumental). As I said before, I don't know if that's true. If somebody can affirm this or correct this, please, do so. Thanks.
100%, I would love to hear your breakdown of some original tunes from Aprils Diary.!
Nope, wrong. Clapton contacted Paul Rodgers, who had just formed The Firm, and it was Jeff Beck that finally convinced Jimmy. There is an interview where paul Rodgers talks about it
@@markhill9275 Thanks for clarifying that. But, wasn't the Firm formed after the ARMS Concert or it was in the works?
@MrRodyf they had already started writing and playing together, Paul told Clapton they only had a couple of songs, but in reality he wanted Jimmy with him and Jeff. Only time all 3 gods were on stage together
I went to a concert back in the 80s where this concert for the first time had Beck, Page and Clapton appear on the same stage, Jimmy Page looked like he had a bit to drink and he patted Clapton on the back and I can tell you , I could tell Clapton did NOT like that one bit: but besides that I dont think Clapton and Page would have much to talk about
I saw clapton beck & page play the nyc ARMS concert. Beck blew Page off the stage. Page is all gimmicks. Clapton and beck can play live.
@@conservativeinexile8474 yes well this was Pages first appearence I believe since the death of Jon Bonham but like I said he look a bit drunk and I always had the feeling that Clapton didnt really like Page
People may be making a bigger deal out of this immediate records thing than either of those two did. I think they were both mad that it happened and really don't want to talk about it. Oldham helped divide the stones from brian jones and he has some responsibility in this event as well.
Claptons playing barely ever spoke to me. Pages playing has always spoken to my soul. To each their own!
Same here.
I saw Clapton in concert back in the 70’s, worst concert I ever went to. He nowhere near as great as Jimmy, he wishes he was.
@@sicotshit7068 To be fair he was drug fucked, but that was his own fault.
@tomy1846 My opinion is the exact opposite of yours. However, I applaud the fact that you have the maturity to recognize that this is a subjective matter, unlike certain 5 year-old children who feel the need to drag one person down in a pathetic effort to make another one look better. Cheers to you.
Couldn't agree more.. Never have understood how and why Pagey and Clapton even get mentioned in the same breath. Eric isn't fit to string Jimmys' guitar IMHO.
Well I remember from my youth both of these guitarist and I personally preferred Jimmy over Eric simply because Jimmy had that edge on Eric for style and ability. When looking at both of them I always got the impression that Eric was rather aloof and yet Jimmy so down to earth. Now as for that Oldham character well for my money just one of the many parasites who lived off the back of greatness.
This has so many errors and the disagreement between Clapton & Page is completely blown out of proportion. Beck, Page and Clapton have remained friends since before the Yardbird days. Yes there was a disagreement and fiasco over the sessions Page and Clapton did together and caused Clapton to be ticked for s time, he got over it and they remained friends. BTW Page didn't stop being a session player, this was a side gig at a smaller studio Page did on the side for experience.
First person that actually has some correct knowledge. The disagreement was because those private sessions got released by the record co, Jimmy was attached to, without Jimmy's permission. Eric got realy angry and has never got over it. He even left Jimmy off the Jeff Beck memorial concert, when Jimmy was best mates with Jeff. Eric has ignored Jimmy ever since, apart from the Arms concert.
Respectfully, I disagree... Page was invited by Clapton to attend the Jeff Beck memorial concert... However, for whatever reason, Page respectfully declined the invitation...@@markhill9275
All these musicians have their own versions of these stories. It all depends on where their loyalty lies
I just recently listened to I'm Your Witch Doctor for the 1st time thanks for youtube comments telling the story of how that song was recorded (studio crew wanted Eric Clapton to reduce his guitar volume and he did not back down, with full support of Jimmy Page who was on the studio soundboard...) It sounds just like any 3 minute ordinary song now but that song is legendary in the history of guitar and the evolution of guitar recording, it helped pave the way for the possibility of the guitar becoming more in the foreground of recordings instead of just used as background flavor... the song still sounds fresh and interesting after all these years, a remarkable work
EC went deep into the blues and thats why he left the yardbirds. JP only joind the yardbirds when JB asked him to then the group fired JB when they were going to tour the USA. All three of these great players have been best mates most of their lives. Yes there were small rows like with all really close mates. But it wasnt hate!
i heard that Eric thought the live solo in No Quarter was his favorite Jimmy solo its mine too
Moderate commercial success with Cream? Is that what you call it? Moderate?
That jumped out, didn't it? I don't care how high the stack of money was or wasn't, there is nothing "moderate" about the"success" of this profoundly epic trio.
They weren't even moderately successful commercially,that doesn't mean they weren't great or influential.@@johnloving9401
I feel like it’s easy to refute that in retrospect but they were only a band for three years weren’t they?
Great info, I do remember in the early 80s, Jimmy solo on stage with Clapton and Beck all playing stairway, (trading solos) ..........Jimmy is more an exploratory, unabandoned, wild player and Clapton is nailed down to the groove, different styles, both impressive. Do a video on Patti Boyd. The most celebrated muse in history. I need you, If I needed someone, For you blue, Something, Layla, Wonderful Tonight, Bell Bottom Blues, are all written about Patti.
E.C. must be in love with George Harrison s Wife so much that he tried to get her away from his best Friend ! Must be the Drugs!
I see Music Mongoose has another video stating Keith Richards HATES Led Zeppelin. I suppose you gotta have clickbait titles to generate the ad revenue, huh?
Keith Richards didn't care for plant I think
Hendrix too
Somewhere on youtube there's a video of Clapton, Beck, Page & Brian May in tuxes meeting the Queen at Buck House. At one point Clapton gestured at Page and told Her Majesty: "He makes more money than all of us." At least that's what I thought he said. Maybe he asked her which bathroom was the one the Beatles smoked a joint in.
I don't think this video title is accurate.
I find the claim that Loog Oldham could demand privately recorded tapes that Page had made at home a little dubious. I can understand that for contractual reasons neither Page or Clapton could release them commercially, but the mere fact of their existence didn't entitle Loog Oldham to anything, and I am wondering if Loog Oldham had some other form of leverage over Page?
It was a different time…🤔
My essential doubt is: if Eric and Jimmy are okay with each other, why did Jimmy not play at the Beck's tribute last year? I really can't understand it
Other than they were both in the Yardbirds, I never thought they had much in common, anyway (and even there, it was Page who loved being a Yardie more than Clapton). For one, Clapton was a country boy from the sticks, and Page was a suburban kid---Clapton grew to favor Fender guitars and Page became a "Gibson" man for life. At the same time Clapton mellowed out, Page went harder
It's pretty rare to see Jimmy playing a Strat, but I've seen him play a Tele quite a few times. He's certainly best known for playing his Les Paul, but if something else's tone works better for a given song he's not adverse to playing that to get the sound he's after.
@@butchs.4239 He stuck with the Gibson more than most, and you have an American to thank for turning him onto the Gibson Les Paul for good---namely Joe Walsh, on one of the very early US tours LZ did with the James Gang in early 1969. He complained to Joe that the Telecaster wasn't giving him enough "crunch" for Zeppelin, so Joe showed him where to get a Les Paul and the rest is history. By the way---it was another American, Carmine Appice, who turned Bonham onto Ludwig drums during a tour later that same year with the Vanilla Fudge
@@butchs.4239 Almost all the tracks on Led Zeppelin 1 album was done with Tele. Also the solo on Stairway to Heaven was played on Tele as well.
@@madaxeman9386 Yes, and his work with The Firm, his solo project (Outrider), and a lot of the Coverdale-Page album were a Tele equipped with a B string bender.
@@madaxeman9386 Which explains why that album was a bit more "jangily" than Led Zeppelin 2, after Page took Joe Walsh's advice and got himself a Gibson. He was still using his Yardbird guitar to cut Zeppelin 1
This clears up a few things for me
As someone who grew up listening to both in the 70's, I've raked this subject over. I've read countless interviews. I don't think they 'hate' each other. They even toured in a super band for over a year in the 80's. However, there is a tinge of nastiness coming from Clapton. It began long before this supposed recording. Eric was on a different path of what he touted as "pure". He wanted to be recognized as the next white Robert Johnson bluesman. Although Page was a great blues player, he was also cut from the fabric of 50's rock and roll. He dressed really well on stage, did some fancy footwork and created a mix of multiple styles that became Zeppelin. He had flair. Clapton at one point said that everyone was, "selling out". Whatever that means... There definitely was a tinge of jealousy about Jimmy's success and swagger. But that seems to all be water under the bridge now.
I never rated clapton there was something cold about his playing' i prefered peter green who had more emotion in his music ..........
@@leso204100% - Never understood why he has been so feted as a player. Blues-wise Gallagher was far better for a start. Clapton a one trick pony, imo, actually dull to listen to. Could not say that about Page or Gallagher or Jansch or Martyn or Walsh or Beck who all had much greater range and feel. That aside, fair play to anyone who can make a living from it.
@@andrewwye1058 : spot on comment Bud' as you say clapton boring to listen to ..........
Wellll... A butt load of professional players disagree. Including Page & Beck. Keep listening & playing kids, the humble will one day make sense to you
@@leso204 I agree. I think Clapton had some great moments particularly when he was up and coming and then of course with Cream. But overall, he's a bit too collegiate and polite for me. I mean... being subtle and playing in an understated thus 'mature' style has its place. There are many players who champion that approach. I personally, prefer players who take more chances and go the the edge of their abilities.
The most boring autobiography I ever read was Claptons’, it kind of went like this : I joined a band, they became successful but I became unhappy and left , I then formed another band , they were doing really well but I was unhappy so broke the band up, I then formed a band to take everything right back to ( my imaginary idea of ) roots. It was great but I became really unhappy so left . He’s the most boring bastard on the planet
This is brilliant 😂
lol
you sound exciting...you should write a book !
On the Money!
Thank you for stating what I have felt for years! When Clapton was embarrassed by Hendrix and stormed off stage, it confirms what I always thought. Clapton IS NOT god, he is OVERRATED! Just listen to 'lay down sally and wonderful tonight'!
Jimmy pulled a knife on Eric and Eric said never bring a knife to a gun fight Pagey Boy and then Eric sings I shot the guitar player but I didn't shoot the sheriff
Lolol
@@jcruisioso5975 now now STOP THAT
Edit the severe mis spelled typos on your pop up quotes - who is "John Male"
Only thing I heard clapton mentioned about led zeppelin negative was how loud they played which was true at the time.
"facts are fun"....lol
If Clapton left the Yardbirds on the day 'For your Love' was released then how is there footage of him playing/miming the song on TV with the Yardbirds? Also, Beck did not know Clapton before he joined the Yardbirds and Page had to introduce Beck to the Yardbirds by playing their music to him on Page's home record player. Beck details this in online interviews. As for Clapton and Page ever playing again after the ARMS concert? They actually toured abroad together along with Beck following that first London gig in the 1980s.
1. Clapton left the band The day the song was RELEASED. They could have recorded it and the video before the release.
I suspect that ...they got over the fray and Respect each other. Love how closely tied all these English musicians and business folk are to each other. They all knew of each other.😁
Image how great the Yardbirds qould have been if they could have found a good guitarist? /s
Clapton's net worth 450 million, Page about !80 million - I think Clapper is over it lol Besides didn't Eric nick the chord sequence of stairway when he wrote Let It Grow? I remember in an old interview where Clapton mentions that subconsciously he must have been listening to Stairway when he wrote it.
1979, I got hold of the Blues Anytime albums with 3 of those scratchy home recordings by Clapton and Page. I had no idea so much animosity arose from that.
I always believed that Clapton thought Led Zeppelin were a joke.I saw the ARMS concert in 1983 at Madison Square Garden with Page,Beck and Clapton together. Page was horrible and Clapton seemed to say "I told you guys he always sucked".
Personally, I very much doubt that Clapton lost too much sleep over the release of his jam sessions with Page. Oldham was a slick operator and never missed any opportunity to make a quick buck, something both Page and clapton were well aware of. Any tension beteen the two probably has more to do with Zeppelin's enormous success in the 70's. Clapton, Townshend, Richards and many others have taken shots at Zeppelin over the years and it's not hard to see simple jealousy as the root cause. Zeppelin came out of nowhere and totally eclipsed acts like The Who and Cream, even outselling The Stones. For guys like Clapton who spent years at the top of the heap it must have been a bitter pill to suddenly be very much a second division act.
They don't hang out as much as they did in the 60s.But I've never heard them speak poorly of each other.
And this guy is wrong.Clapton and Page knew each other from the recording studios before the Yardbirds.
Great channel. Excellent visual effects and storyline. Well done.
Thanks!
2:57 and 5:28 Misleading photo. It's not Clapton at all on the right.
6:42 Name is John Mayall, not John "Males". ;-)
I bought that Guitar Boogie record of Page & Clapton jamming on blues riffs it was in the cutout record bin for a couple bucks. I liked that record but never knew the story behind it.
Id be willing to bet....in spite of their issues with each other.much respect and admiration ...thats just how the world of music works.... especially among guitarists.
Niiice! ...imagine passing by, or, even better, living next door to the house the two of them were jamming in in the 60s!
If there was any resentment between the two,it left long ago.They've been on the same stage many times,and even were together about 20 years ago meeting the Queen.She had never heard of them before!
Clapton found only "moderate commercial success" with Cream?!
That was one of the biggest bands of the late 60s on the planet, and their music still sells well.
THAT would be a better story, if true.
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I suspect that early situation with that independent label has long been water under the bridge--all of the musicians were screwed. If you listen to that album, you can hear how unfinished it is. Both Clapton and Page experienced some pretty dark addiction issues around the late 60s-early 70s period as well. Both went through recovery and came away healthier and seemingly happier. I doubt experiences they had when they were in their 20s and neither had control over the musical output defined their relationship over the decades. They always seemed to be very respectful about the musicianship each displayed. They both loved Jeff Beck. I have always marvelled at the rich deep scale of musicianship in the UK at that time. Quite remarkable.
Clapton couldn't have recommended Page. Clapton was fired 3 days before Jeff Beck joined the Yardbirds...therefore...Page was asked by management, declined and recommended Beck. Although Clapton certainly was within weeks of quitting, he would have been caught off guard when he was called to the office and told he should either resign or they would fire him. Eric has never had a good relationship with The Yardbirds since that day, although he became very good fiends with his replacement, Beck.
I came here to make the same comment… there is a great interview with Jimmy made by Fender when they were making reproductions of Page’s mirror/dragon telecaster, where Page covers this topic. To summarize: the manager of The Yardbirds, who knew Page from session work, asked Jimmy to join the band multiple times… the first time Jimmy felt weird about it because it was all being done behind Clapton’s back, and Page declined. Then the second time, the one this video is referencing, Jimmy also declined but Recommended his friend, Jeff Beck, who of course ended up joining. As a thank you Beck gave Jimmy the telecaster he was currently using, and Page would later use to record all of Led Zeppelin 1, and the solo to stairway to heaven. …but yeah, Clapton didn’t recommend Page. Jimmy was already the heir apparent.
Sigh. Clapton quit. Recommended Beck & Page. Jeez
I really need a blog page. Mostly wrong.
@@jcruisioso5975 He was fired. He didn't meet Page until 3 months later and had never heard of Beck until he was announced as his replacement. You must be a jounalist.
@@jcruisioso5975 Clapton, to this day has not had friendly relations with any of the 4 Yardbirds that he played with. He didn't attend the RRHoF induction, Blew Jim McCarty off when Jim called him to guest on the Box of Frogs album. Didn't like Samwell-Smith at all. So why would he recommend anyone to take his place? In his book, he admits he hoped the band would crumble with his departure, and resented Beck for his success. They did soon meet and became best of friends.
Are Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page friends? While the two have been musical collaborators, their relationship goes beyond the stage. Over the years, the two have come together for a number of projects, both professionally and personally, shining a light on the friendship that has been built between them. From their early collaborations in the 1960s to their ongoing admiration for each other’s work, the friendship between Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page is one that has spanned decades. Hate is a pretty strong word, especially when labelling on a video blog like this. I feel this is really scraping the underside of the barrel for content to fill space. Seriously, while Clapton drives his custom one off Ferrari built and designed for him from his car collection garage looking at his 460 million bank balance, I don’t think he’s thinks about the two skinny, hungry guitarists recording each other. Honestly mate, I think you can do better than this, unless this is the content you want to fill your page with. Cheers.
ChatGPT + personal close saying nothing at all.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day 😂😊
I think you'll find it was Mike Vernon who produced the John Mayall's Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton album. Nothing to do with J. Page.
I still have not heard anything related to Jimmy Page's mysterious absence from the Jeff Beck tribute which it appeared was hosted by Eric Clapton. Does anyone have any info on this? I love Jimmy Page the artist and was concerned he wasn't well. However, he did appear at another gala with his doubleneck guitar which I saw afterwards on UA-cam. I'm puzzled by this.
Page was invited by Clapton to attend, but for some unknown reason, Page reluctantly declined to attend.
Rivalry. 2 best . Page recently said an engineer said Clapton was impossible to record
He was there . Yes.
They may have had some differences, but it's all in the past.
‘Hate’ sounds a bit over the top. If anything, Clapton should have been annoyed at the record label owner who forced Page to give up the tapes! I doubt if they hate each other, Clapton doesn’t seem that type of character anyway! Both geniuses
It was disappointing that Jimmy Page did not play at the Jeff Beck tribute concerts. Both he & Eric Clapton spoke at the church service & were pallbearers.
I saw LZ in the early 70s and the first 3 songs were so loud that it was hard to understand what they were. Black dog and rock and roll, I forgot the 3rd. Even with that, they were awesome. 26th row of the Boston garden.
Right ! LZ played so loud .I was at a concert near the Stage and my ears are almost falling off !!! Great Concert, but more noise than The Who !
i read they were best friends as kids and page hooked Clapton up with the Yardbirds, but that was in a book that has painful errors in it.
A long time ago and the anger long gone.
Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page are my top 3 favorite guitarists. Maybe Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page finally made ammends?
Both Ray and Dave Davies have denied that Page ever played on their records. This false claim seems to have stemmed from a Page interview years later where he said he "thought" he played a solo on a Kinks record. The Davies brothers thought Page was confused about the time both were recording in adjacent studios and sat in studio listening to each other's work.
Townshend, Talmy (the Who's producer) and Page himself denied that he played on I Can't Explain, the record you showed. There has been talk (unverified) that Page played on the B side, Bald Headed Woman. If I were Page I would deny that as well. It's a terrible song, not written by Townshend, and very much below the quality of music the Who were known for.
Reading Wiki again? Cream was huge for 2 years. I saw them in 1967 and 1968. They did very well financially, as well, though Ginger felt robbed. Jack Bruce did way o.k. as he was credited with a lot of songwriting.
The way I see it is there might have been a few heated arguments between the 2 about the material but nothing that would put a permanent wedge between their friendship and mutual respect for each other.
Click bait BS
Great story dude...keep them coming.
Thanks! That's very kind of you. Any stories you'd like me to cover? 🙂
This all happened a long time ago when they were young boys in their early 20s...
They were from the same village ...included Jeff Beck
This video seems very exaggerated as many have pointed out. One line that got me (among many) was " Clapton found moderate success with Cream." I lived thru that era and I seem to recall that Cream was huge
Very insiteful quotes... Maybe had been a bit played on for the publicity, but still you can tell that these guys had thier eye on the prize. heh
Wow imagine Clapton not liking 'For Your Love', one of their best!
No guitar . Hated it
I'm not sure they hate each other, but of course we can understand it's very unpleasant to hear some of your guitar parts on an album with demos you had recorded for jamming, while no one had warned you. 🤔! Cool video anyway, cheers!
I wore this vinyl EC and JP jam album out when I was 15.
John McVie joined the Blues Breakers in 1964 and remained through 1967, which includes Clapton's entire tenure with the John Mayall organization. It's McVie on the Beano album and everything else during that three years.. It wasn't just a couple of singles and B-sides as you imply.
John McVie never played with the Bluesbreakers.
He most certainly did and so did Peter Green before they both went on to form Fleetwood Mac in 1967... They both played on the Bluesbreakers album " A Hard Road"@@ronaldviens7862
You put Clapton's name on a Page quote at 7:11.
The Yardbirds was a long, long time ago. I have never heard either utter a critical word about each other.
"Clapton went on to form Cream and had "moderate"success for a few years. " Cream were a huge shooting star. Moderate success, my ass!
I could tell this was going to be full of inaccuracies to bother with the whole thing (stopped at the 1:20 mark). Starting with Clapton did not recommend Jimmy for The Yardbirds; Yardbirds management had approached Jimmy to gauge his interest in the band even before Eric quit because Eric was unhappy but Page turned him down because 1. Eric was a friend, 2. he made more as a session musician, and 3. he didn't want to get caught up in band politics. When Clapton finally *did* quit, management asked him to join but Page demurred again because of the 3 reasons above, so instead recommended his good friend, Jeff Beck. I'll not waste more time on this video.
I mean there seemed to be a tiff between them. Page recorded him prior Eric recommending Page.
There was a dispute about the recordings
Then early 80s, Beck convinced EC to get Page playing again. Basically saved his life
Page played like shit but it saved his life for sure
But oddly never played together again. Strange
I think Eric's comment about Led Zeppelin "playing too loud;' or "They seemed to over emphasis what they were doing', something like that was only constructive criticism and nothing more or less IMO. Because of Eric's notoriaty for being a well seasoned guitarist, I think his word is golden.
Didn't know they were in bad terms
They aren't. It's bs
You know, I never liked Jimmy’s style. Odd, innit? He’s done such remarkable things, how can I not…? But somehow, I always thought his sound was too harsh, and he didn’t finish his notes in solos. Like he didn’t care. He just went on to the next riff, and on, and on. If he’d just sat down with David Gilmour for a day, practicing, I’d have loved him
In the early days everybody hated Led Zeppelin as they blew everyone out the water and became by far, the biggest band in the world.
Art is inherently messy. All great artists have their own vision/s for how it "should be". This creates a lot of tension, over seemingly minor differences.
As much as I respect a musicians right to get a return for published work, I'd love to know where to get a copy of "Guitar Boogie". I'll send Eric a separate check for his share of the royalties.
Clapton was a great player, almost incapable of composition. Page was a great player and great composer.
When two men argue, it's always about women. Here is my variation on your explanation: "In the late 60s, Clapton began dating Charlotte Martin, a French Model. They broke up and then Page would find himself dating Charlotte." should be changed into "In the late 60s, Clapton began dating Charlotte Martin, a French Model. They broke up because of Jimmy." 😎
Clapton was right on with his assessment of Led Zepplin. There was something juvenile about many of their songs, like they were trying too hard.
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Jerry, some of these kids are wayyyyy off
@@jcruisioso5975 Everyone is entitled to there own "OPINION" But not to there own "FACTS"... With all due RESPECT-
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Actually, the falling out was over the release of home recordings that Jimmy had of he and Eric jamming. Pages management, read record company, prior to Zeppelin released the tapes without Jimmy's agreement. Eric was furious and blamed Jimmy, who could do nothing to stop it. Since then Clapton has always held Jimmy on the outer. Even going so far as to not invite Jimmy to the concert for Jeff Beck, who was best mates with Jimmy. Jimmy has never spoken one bad word about Eric, and even agreed to appear on the Arms concert, with Eric and Jeff, at the behest of his great friend Paul Rodgers, who he formed The firm with, after only 6 weeks of picking up the guitar, having pretty much not played for 2 year after Bonzo's death. Eric is the one who wrongly started it. Jimmy has never refused to talk with Eric.
Once again, Clapton did invite Page, but Page reluctantly declined the invitation.
All of this is a accurate; sans the fact that this guy doesn't know either of their phone numbers and the "Tribute To Elmore" sessions he's talking about were five decades ago. He doesn't know anything about their friendship.
You are so wrong on so many statements.
This is shameful.
They do not hate each other.
Get your facts straight 💯