@@TheLilbigBlackthere was never any doubt to me. Sekiro IS the strongest fromsoft being. He thought against demons and ghosts, he beat a snake god and theres an ending where he becomes a demon himself. Hes only beaten by the bloodborne hunter who got the ending where loops the world into becoming its creator himself😂😂 But ingame sekiro would beat the bloodborne hunters ass
Malenia doesn't "seem" like a sekiro boss, she IS a sekiro boss. Recycled form a cancelled dlc. She is literally female sekiro, probably a past wielder of the dragon rot curse, with miquella being her lord. A prosthetic hand with a katana instead of various gadgets, spreading dragon rot everytime she dies and gets reborn.
@@SownJevan Boy, Malenia's every move is exactly as fast as Isshin's, Genichiro's, or The Corrupt Monk's. Don't make them look like they're fast like DMC's Virgil. Just watch a video of Malenia vs Isshin and you will see that they are equal in speed.
Hi Ongbal, I am truly humbled that you mentioned my video in your description. Getting recognized by the likes of yourself and other role models in the Sekiro community has really been a dream come true for me since the beginning of this year when I started playing Fromsoft games! Anyways, as for the mod, I share similar thoughts as you. It is clearly an unpolished mod but it holds great potential and promise for the future of the mod itself, and other mods. In my opinion, Elemer of the Briar is probably the most functional boss at the moment.
this is cringe af... "role model" " humbled"... bro it's a video game... your hero that you admire so much is a video gamer Did he also save your life when you in the darkest places too?
During the whole Malenia fight I kept thinking “if this was Sekiro, she would have been dead 10 times over). Seeing waterfowl dance get deflected brought me immense joy! And the mikiri counter on her stab *cheff’s kiss*
i think people are too headstrong when it comes to trying out different strategies. I immediately saw how stupidly easy it is to stagger her so i used bhs and misericorde and quickly sent her back to her dead brother. ER doesn't have a single truly awesome boss fight. Sekiro has like 4. And DS3 has 2
FromSoftware really has to get it together and do a better job making bosses suited for their specific games. Elden Ring bosses were really shitty for the game. Melania would have been an amazing Sekiro boss. Maybe they should have saved some Elden Ring bosses for a potential Sekiro 2. Malakath, Godfrey, Radagon, Elden Beast- all would have been 100X better in Sekiro.
I always felt she would fit a lot better in sekiro. Her moveset feels a lot less scary when you have tools such as the deflect and mikiri counter. Seeing the waterfowl dance get deflected was so cathartic...
It becomes less scary in sekiro , so she would fit ? Nah, she is too easy when you try her in sekiro, hard in elden, doesn't mean she should go from elden
@@infinity002 maybe she is easy if it would actually be put into the game and not a mod. it took me 1hr to go trough phase 1 mostly cuz of the camera going to the skies or stupid interactions like posture recovery in my lighting attack. and the waterfoul parry has more precise timing that it would seem, I too tought I would just spam deflect and she would be dead but nah. it makes the inner bosses look like a joke
0:14 This move made me realise how outclassed melania is in the sekiro verse. That move would devour my hp in ER, but on here, it just looks like a flimsy butter knife. Like she's flinging a wand instead of a sword.
Kudos to the modder who made this possible. They even incorporated sakura dance! Amazing! This is how imagined a Lady Tomoe fight. If only the was a DLC.
I always felt like Malenia was an unused fight (possibly Tomoe) from Sekiro DLC that never happened. Her fight feels like something straight out of Sekiro and unlike anything else in ER.
@@Jeffmetal42 There are thoughts that she might have been repurposed from possible the Lady Tomoe fight that *might* have been planned for the DLC (we get constant hints about her throughtout Sekiro and she was the one who trained Genichiro but we never fight her). You often find that certain boss fights will 'feel' like a fight in the next game throughout the series as either a prelude to that game or as something left over from that game that never made the cut. For example the Scarlet Rot Blossom attack could have simply been a big lightning dive with electricity crackling around Tomoe since it was her who 'mastered the lightning'.
@Kaye.Bueno. did you mean waterfowl dance? I wouldn't know what the sakura dance could be otherwise since i remeber no such name both from ER and Sekiro. Sakura as a word is ofc dropped in sekiro alot since the japanese seem to really like their cherries, but i dont remember the name sakura dance.
Not only was she made for Sekiro, I'm almost certain she's what Tomoe was supposed to fight like. Her movements are soooo similar to the Okami warriors.
@@MetricMelon You can tell by the way she hops and kinda floats around. Especially with the waterfowl dance. Her shadow clone attack in phase 2 is also pretty similar to what the true corrupted monk does in her fight.
@@christianholbrook2686 Yep 100%, there is no way the first fromsoft game to win GOTY wouldn't get a DLC, or at least was planned to get one especially after the sheer amount of buildup and foreshadowing for lady tomoe, the mix of Covid and Elden ring being so massive makes me think it was scrapped and everything they had made for it was used in Elden ring in one way or another, hence the birth of Malenia
This turns Malenia from quite possibly the hardest and most frustrating boss into a decently difficult but mostly fun and cool fight. More like Isshin Ashina than Isshin, the Sword Saint.
It always felt like that moveset was originally designed for a Sekiro boss. I'd put money on it. The waterfowl dance for high speed parries, the jump and stab move being perfect for a mikiri counter...
@@Kamawan0wouldn't call it sliding for Ludwig since for his massive size it's basically a bloodborne quickstep for him lol Godfrey though that man is a ballerina under all that muscle 🤤🤤
@@Kamawan0no but all of her moves blends in perfectly well with Sekiro. Imo she would have been significantly more fun to fight here because her regen mechanic is not really demoralizing, her attacks are now engaging because you don’t need to fear WFD and she still has some serious kill skill with that lunge grab, clone spam and Scarlet Aeonia
@@DerAykac That wouldn’t make sense for multiple reasons. Especially since this character would have been made before and during Sekiro’s making (it was made at the same time as ER). She’s the just a influenced by it. Like how after Bloodborne, DS3 had far more beast type and hunter fight style bosses like Sister Friede. Everyone used to say she’s a BB boss in a DS game. That doesn’t mean she’s literally a cut BB boss. People keep doing this(DoH is a DS boss).
@@simonealcazar816 I mean if anything BSB is a Bloodborne boss in Sekiro while Malenia is clearly a Sekiro boss in a game that has a lot more in common with Souls. The pacing of these fights feel extremely at odds with their respective games and there's quite a few examples of that across Fromsoftware titles.
From the outset he shocks us by parrying the famous very devastating attacks during our first meeting against Malenia on ER, what a performance GG ONGBAL and you too Tigre for your mode it was magical congratulations.
Because of the moveset, I feel like if she really was Tomoe in Sekiro, she could have used lightning attacks while hopping on her toes, that would be crazy
@@abrahamrangel2326 there wasnt any evidence nor datamines about her belonging in sekiro, ppl have fried brains and spread missinformation out of thin air🐔
@@abrahamrangel2326her fighting style fits Sekiro, and that's why many believe she was meant to be in Sekiro, has Tomoe bc of Malenia's Waterflow dance is a technique used by Tomoe
Honestly wouldn't be surprised, a lot of moves in E:R (both boss attacks and ashes of war) are just recycled from other Fromsoft games including Sekrio Waterfowl Dance itself looks pretty similar to an art you get in Sekiro after I think beating Inner Genichiro
Found it, her Waterfowl animation is literally Spiral Cloud Passage, complete with the slashes all around your character effect and everything. This is also why the animation looks a little awkward for Waterfowl Dance as it's intended to be used on the ground.
@@GigiusMaximus makes perfect sense, tomoe was even described as almost dancing when she fought. And malenia literally has a move called waterfowl dance. And she has a lot to do with rot, like dragonrot.
I can tell some of the attacks are faster than their Elden Ring counterparts, and some combos have been revamped. That's nice! Feels more appropriate for Sekiro than just straight up porting her original moveset without any tweaks. Very nice!
Always said Malenia was sekiro boss transplanted into a souls style of game, I mean this kind of shows that this was how she was always meant to be fought. Awesome stuff.
@@thedoomslayer5863i disagree, I think Demon of hatred is a perfectly good boss within sekiro. I do however agree it would also be good in a more classical dark souls environment.
For the longest time I’ve felt that waterfowl dance was originally a move from some kind of Sekiro DLC, likely done by Tomoe. The visual effects, the name and the fact that it’s an extremely unbalanced move for Elden rings combat system really lend itself to that.
shes still well suited for elden ring because of elden rings fast stamina recovery and delayed attacks, always giving you a chance to dodge and punish. but yes shes perfect for sekiro too
@@toastedbred2961To be honest I think she has too many gimmicks for an Elden Ring fight. In sekiro she's perfect, but they ruined her fight in ER by giving her lifesteal and a second phase ON TOP of waterfowl. I think it should be either one or the other. (She would be perfect with a slightly nerfed waterfowl and no lifesteal)
@@NightmareBlade10 no way. she would be way too easy with no lifesteal and one phase. the lifesteal is there so people can't just hold up a 100% phys shield like they have the entire rest of the game. i agree that waterfowl is stupid though, it's literally the only reason she's any kind of threat at all. if it was more clear how to successfully dodge it, it would be a lot better.
@@r.r.r.r.r.r.r. “the lifesteal is there so people can’t just hold up a 100% phys shield…” WHAT!? Do you even remotely realize how stupid that sounds coming from you? That’s incredibly lazy, bullshit design & it makes fighting her EVEN WORSE in the offset. This is made incredibly unfair with her being way too aggressive & lacking any semblance of cooldown. Might I add, the previous Souls entries actually DID give bosses a cooldown; even the Orphan of Kos isn’t this aggressive, even in his 2nd phase. And it’s a boss I have managed to beat several times with no issues at all. Sorry, man, but I can’t excuse unfair design; FromSoft may be legends at their craft, but Elden is where I’m REALLY gonna be blunt about that. I don’t care if it won GOTY; I will call their bluff & keep commenting how shit their game design is here. If they had just stuck to a Sekiro DLC instead, and if we FINALLY got to see what Tomoe would’ve been like instead of leaving us to speculate, I wouldn’t be angry; until then, I am, and I’m never playing Elden or their other properties again if FromSoft is going to keep fucking it all up by putting the wrong bosses in the wrong games. I feel like I got robbed of $60 for a game whose latter half is butchered & likely hasn’t been patched in months.
@@r.r.r.r.r.r.r. Hahahaha you're missing out. From nerfed shields hard, mate. It's not 100% phys shield, it's Fingerprint + Barricade + Talismans + Lots of Stamina or you're fucked. Especially taking Malenia's big damage into account.
I understand the limitations of this mod and yet I am enamoured with simply how well they managed to make it gel with Sekiro's system. These games are entirely different and yet here she is!
I swear Fromsoft was preparing for a Sekiro DLC with Tomoe as a major boss, but after the DLC got cancelled they used what was left of Tomoe's moveset for Malenia.
@@hensinkswell the fact she barely fits into Elden ring (is a bad fight, you fight one move and that’s the fight), has a prothsesis, has some kind of proto-Sakura dance. Animation cancels, has a thrust attack that could be mikiri counterable. She could easily have been partially made in sekiro then moved over to Elden ring and remade. It’s a reasonable option
@@Boamere It's cool to have baseless theories, we will never have proof to disprove or prove it... but to say it doesn't fit into Elden Ring is a straight up coping rant. Don't get offended but you sound like someone who got majorly filtered by Malenia.
The fight we always wanted, but never really got. It would’ve been nice if FromSoft had just put THIS boss in the right fucking game; she doesn’t belong in Elden Ring.
@@AlastorAltruistGaming lol doesn't belong in Elden Ring? What a bad take, she works great in Elden Ring one of the best bosses in that game. But she's perfect for Sekiro.
1:36 is probably the best thing I've ever seen in my life. Edit: It's honestly so impressive how well you've mastered the deceptively deep mechanics of this game. I really hope that From Soft makes a second Sekiro! I keep my fingers crossed for that day.
I love that From's tech is allowing such awesome crossovers. Elden Ring bosses in Sekiro, Dark Souls 3 bosses in Elden Ring, Armored Core 6 assets being to correct scale when brought back into Elden Ring, etc. I know it's probably impossible, but it would be fun if Nightfall from AC6 could be brought back into Sekiro, just to see the Mikiri counter on the Pile Bunker.
It finally happened. The prosthetic. The katana. The kick. The grab. The fucking Waterfowl with its trails in the air evoking One Mind from Isshin. The obsession with never having been defeated. The very obviously parryable attacks. It's all been so clear from the start. Malenia was meant to be Tomoe.
Malenia in Sekiro's world? Now let's see how Wolf would fight in the lands between. By the way this video... extraordinary. Huge Kudos to both Ongbal and the modder.
Just a reminder, From Software had all Wolf's animations and movesets, based Elden Ring around that sort of fast paced movement and then gave you DS3 controls
A nice touch is the fact that the mod creators changed the color of Malenia's hair and wings to grey, cause that makes it look like she has dragonrot instead of scarlet rot!
Assim ela fica fácil, a habilidade mais forte dela é recuperar vida quando acerta o ataque, enquanto ela não quebrar a guarda não recupera vida, logo fica fácil.
I did something similar in Elden Ring after the dlc came out, using the deflecting hardtear and Eupora twinblade on a multi hit and guard counter build... it literally *melted* her, even with the lifesteal
Cara, seus vídeos são incríveis, são pura arte, eu comecei a jogar Sekiro uns meses atrás por conta de você, claro, não com a mesma habilidade, muito longe disso kkkkkkk. O que você fez com o Rei dos Títeres no Lies of P foi algo absurdamente satisfatório de se ver. Virei um grande apreciador do seu material, parabéns, cara.
This is beautiful! Sekiro got me through a particularly dark time in my life and seeing this, for me, is what has been missing since the end credits rolled on Shadow die twice. Please Miyazaki, make another Sekiro.
This is amazing and I’m happy with what it is now but honestly I feel like it should be a ginichiro type of boss to where you fight her for her first 2 health bars and then there’s a third as goddess of rot
I wish ER had Sekiro combat included. Just so you have a choice of play style. I tried ER in the hopes of getting some deflects with a shield. But that was way too boring. Dropped the game and came back to Sekrio :D
Which really sucks balls because that means these kinda mods are specifically for PC… I have a PS4… And my computer doesn’t run 3D games all that well! 😭😭 If we had just gotten the Sekiro DLC instead of Elden Mid, it would’ve been so damn cool!
I was constantly thinking about this happening and how much malenia would fit as a sekiro boss as opposed to elden ring and sure enough. Waterfowl dance being parried is actually amazing
I was of the theory that Malenia's attacks are actually Spiral Cloud Passage And it looks like they really are EDIT: Now that I think about it, Malenia and Miquella seem like Tomoe and Genichiro
when i see people saying that malenia should have belong to sekiro ... i thought it was an exaggerated but seeing in action ....holy shit she really is in the wrong dimension
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I always forget just how much sekiros parry feels like someone's pouring liquid chocolate into my dopamine receptors
I love this description
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That sounds painful are you a m by chance
@@PapaBlake ah yes, my true form!
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@@PapaBlake I know Miyazaki is
Watching malenia get mikiri countered brings tears of joy to my eyes
And waterfowl dance get deflected😍
Every day I wish I could mikiri counter that attack.
Wolf confirmed to canonically be the best From swordsman
@@TheLilbigBlackthere was never any doubt to me. Sekiro IS the strongest fromsoft being. He thought against demons and ghosts, he beat a snake god and theres an ending where he becomes a demon himself.
Hes only beaten by the bloodborne hunter who got the ending where loops the world into becoming its creator himself😂😂
But ingame sekiro would beat the bloodborne hunters ass
@@splishsplash3492aight
Whoever made this mod is a legend.
from software did
@@fareastslav from where do you know that?
Guy deserves to be hired right now!
@@eyeONE_Officialhe’s lying. There is not a single developer who has made a mode for their game
@@eyeONE_Officialit was revealed to me in a dream
Malenia seems like a Sekiro boss and Demon of Hatred seems like an Elden Ring boss. Perfectly balanced
bloodbourne actually
No, Demon of Hatred is perfect for Sekiro
He's my favorite boss of all times, in my favorite game of all times
Malenia doesn't "seem" like a sekiro boss, she IS a sekiro boss. Recycled form a cancelled dlc.
She is literally female sekiro, probably a past wielder of the dragon rot curse, with miquella being her lord.
A prosthetic hand with a katana instead of various gadgets, spreading dragon rot everytime she dies and gets reborn.
@@kato093 more like Tomoe the swordswoman who taught Genichiro and nearly killed younger Isshin.
Malena in ER: you're so fast!!
Malenia in Sekiro: too slow!
Malenia just as fast as Isshin or Genichiro.
True. Sekiro Players would eat malenia for breakfast
@@SownJevan No. We wouldn't.
@@ElisOdin dawg. All her attacks can be deflected and she's very slow.
@@SownJevan Boy, Malenia's every move is exactly as fast as Isshin's, Genichiro's, or The Corrupt Monk's. Don't make them look like they're fast like DMC's Virgil. Just watch a video of Malenia vs Isshin and you will see that they are equal in speed.
Hi Ongbal, I am truly humbled that you mentioned my video in your description. Getting recognized by the likes of yourself and other role models in the Sekiro community has really been a dream come true for me since the beginning of this year when I started playing Fromsoft games!
Anyways, as for the mod, I share similar thoughts as you. It is clearly an unpolished mod but it holds great potential and promise for the future of the mod itself, and other mods. In my opinion, Elemer of the Briar is probably the most functional boss at the moment.
Tu eres el que hace los mods de bosses de elden ring en sekiro?
No, el creador es Last孤影众 en Bilibili @@LuisSanchez-fj6dt
she should refilling her health and posture gauge with every hit
@@tomsin1417 yup
this is cringe af...
"role model" " humbled"... bro it's a video game... your hero that you admire so much is a video gamer
Did he also save your life when you in the darkest places too?
During the whole Malenia fight I kept thinking “if this was Sekiro, she would have been dead 10 times over). Seeing waterfowl dance get deflected brought me immense joy! And the mikiri counter on her stab *cheff’s kiss*
i think people are too headstrong when it comes to trying out different strategies. I immediately saw how stupidly easy it is to stagger her so i used bhs and misericorde and quickly sent her back to her dead brother. ER doesn't have a single truly awesome boss fight. Sekiro has like 4. And DS3 has 2
FromSoftware really has to get it together and do a better job making bosses suited for their specific games. Elden Ring bosses were really shitty for the game. Melania would have been an amazing Sekiro boss. Maybe they should have saved some Elden Ring bosses for a potential Sekiro 2. Malakath, Godfrey, Radagon, Elden Beast- all would have been 100X better in Sekiro.
@@billyskittles1036Melania, Malakath
Why people have so much problem to spell ER's bosses names correctly?
@@Artaxerxes. Miquella isn't dead. He's probably gonna be one of the main focuses of the DLC, I'd wager.
Not to mention guardian ape and demon of hatred would be better in a dark souls game than Sekiro.@@billyskittles1036
Its so cool seeing someone fight her by standing their ground like you do in sekiro, one reason i love sekiro combat
Seriously dude. I cannot get into any other souls type game. The constant rolling and evading just annoy me.
@@ahmadkhairul337based, try bb, you sidestep
@@eduardonavarro4172at least in Bloodborne you feel like a badass moving around like that, true
@@Unknown-mf7whand instead of chugging you can attack to heal. Such a fun mechanic
@@ahmadkhairul337same. But recently I’ve gotten into Wo Long and Lies of P, not the same but both have been scratching that itch for me lowkey
I always felt she would fit a lot better in sekiro. Her moveset feels a lot less scary when you have tools such as the deflect and mikiri counter. Seeing the waterfowl dance get deflected was so cathartic...
It becomes less scary in sekiro , so she would fit ? Nah, she is too easy when you try her in sekiro, hard in elden, doesn't mean she should go from elden
just put the sekiro counters into ER :D
@@cicik57Carian Retaliation?
@@infinity002 maybe she is easy if it would actually be put into the game and not a mod. it took me 1hr to go trough phase 1 mostly cuz of the camera going to the skies or stupid interactions like posture recovery in my lighting attack. and the waterfoul parry has more precise timing that it would seem, I too tought I would just spam deflect and she would be dead but nah. it makes the inner bosses look like a joke
Deadass like your Character in Emergency Room feels like a recovering cripple with how you can't even dodge properly.
0:14 This move made me realise how outclassed melania is in the sekiro verse. That move would devour my hp in ER, but on here, it just looks like a flimsy butter knife. Like she's flinging a wand instead of a sword.
Kudos to the modder who made this possible. They even incorporated sakura dance! Amazing! This is how imagined a Lady Tomoe fight. If only the was a DLC.
I always felt like Malenia was an unused fight (possibly Tomoe) from Sekiro DLC that never happened. Her fight feels like something straight out of Sekiro and unlike anything else in ER.
@@Jeffmetal42 There are thoughts that she might have been repurposed from possible the Lady Tomoe fight that *might* have been planned for the DLC (we get constant hints about her throughtout Sekiro and she was the one who trained Genichiro but we never fight her). You often find that certain boss fights will 'feel' like a fight in the next game throughout the series as either a prelude to that game or as something left over from that game that never made the cut.
For example the Scarlet Rot Blossom attack could have simply been a big lightning dive with electricity crackling around Tomoe since it was her who 'mastered the lightning'.
Malenia never beating the "reskinned Tomoe fight" allegations
@@dardardarnershe will never beat them so long as she has that giant ass lunge attack which was 100% intended for the mikiri counter
@Kaye.Bueno. did you mean waterfowl dance? I wouldn't know what the sakura dance could be otherwise since i remeber no such name both from ER and Sekiro. Sakura as a word is ofc dropped in sekiro alot since the japanese seem to really like their cherries, but i dont remember the name sakura dance.
That Mist Raven into a Mikiri Counter at 1:35 felt so clean it caught me off guard LOL
I am so glad that after so many years ONGBAL continues to make videos on sekiro
It’s what brought him to popularity so it makes sense. Sekiro is a timeless game
@@2vjoseits also his favourite souls game so yeah he still plays it
they were made for each other. an eternal bond.
Literal Sekiro boss that got awkwardly dropped into ER. Kudos to all involved who made this happen.
Only thing "awkward" is you thinking you better than the devs. Fucking Melvin
Not only was she made for Sekiro, I'm almost certain she's what Tomoe was supposed to fight like. Her movements are soooo similar to the Okami warriors.
@@christianholbrook2686 thats a very insightful pickup!! I'm really curious now if this is how the inception of her character began
@@MetricMelon You can tell by the way she hops and kinda floats around. Especially with the waterfowl dance. Her shadow clone attack in phase 2 is also pretty similar to what the true corrupted monk does in her fight.
@@christianholbrook2686 Yep 100%, there is no way the first fromsoft game to win GOTY wouldn't get a DLC, or at least was planned to get one especially after the sheer amount of buildup and foreshadowing for lady tomoe, the mix of Covid and Elden ring being so massive makes me think it was scrapped and everything they had made for it was used in Elden ring in one way or another, hence the birth of Malenia
This turns Malenia from quite possibly the hardest and most frustrating boss into a decently difficult but mostly fun and cool fight. More like Isshin Ashina than Isshin, the Sword Saint.
Wouldn't call Melenia frustrating
@@debater452Stockholm syndrome
@@froginabucket7294 Not really the fight is fun and mostly fair
@@debater452 as I said, Stockholm syndrome
@@froginabucket7294 I sence a lot of cope from you
It always felt like that moveset was originally designed for a Sekiro boss. I'd put money on it. The waterfowl dance for high speed parries, the jump and stab move being perfect for a mikiri counter...
I´d go even further. I think Malenia was originally planned to be Tomoe. Think about it.
@@Kamawan0wouldn't call it sliding for Ludwig since for his massive size it's basically a bloodborne quickstep for him lol
Godfrey though that man is a ballerina under all that muscle 🤤🤤
@@Kamawan0no but all of her moves blends in perfectly well with Sekiro. Imo she would have been significantly more fun to fight here because her regen mechanic is not really demoralizing, her attacks are now engaging because you don’t need to fear WFD and she still has some serious kill skill with that lunge grab, clone spam and Scarlet Aeonia
@@DerAykac That wouldn’t make sense for multiple reasons. Especially since this character would have been made before and during Sekiro’s making (it was made at the same time as ER). She’s the just a influenced by it. Like how after Bloodborne, DS3 had far more beast type and hunter fight style bosses like Sister Friede. Everyone used to say she’s a BB boss in a DS game. That doesn’t mean she’s literally a cut BB boss. People keep doing this(DoH is a DS boss).
@@simonealcazar816
I mean if anything BSB is a Bloodborne boss in Sekiro while Malenia is clearly a Sekiro boss in a game that has a lot more in common with Souls. The pacing of these fights feel extremely at odds with their respective games and there's quite a few examples of that across Fromsoftware titles.
From the outset he shocks us by parrying the famous very devastating attacks during our first meeting against Malenia on ER, what a performance GG ONGBAL and you too Tigre for your mode it was magical congratulations.
Thank you! 😘
Because of the moveset, I feel like if she really was Tomoe in Sekiro, she could have used lightning attacks while hopping on her toes, that would be crazy
She does have some lighting attacks in this mod she just didn't have time to use them
Well im glad she got scrapped, in elden ring she is ok but looks pretty mid in sekiro
@@abrahamrangel2326 there wasnt any evidence nor datamines about her belonging in sekiro, ppl have fried brains and spread missinformation out of thin air🐔
That's just ongbal bro this would still be aids for any normal man@@abrahamrangel2326
@@abrahamrangel2326her fighting style fits Sekiro, and that's why many believe she was meant to be in Sekiro, has Tomoe bc of Malenia's Waterflow dance is a technique used by Tomoe
And the fact that you get waterfowl as a combat art for the reward is so fitting
Malenia in Elden Ring: pain
Malenia in Sekiro: looks fun as hell to fight.
I always thought Malenia's moveset was recycled from a Tomoe fight we never got, so this is interesting to see. Her moves seem tailor-made for Sekiro.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised, a lot of moves in E:R (both boss attacks and ashes of war) are just recycled from other Fromsoft games including Sekrio
Waterfowl Dance itself looks pretty similar to an art you get in Sekiro after I think beating Inner Genichiro
Found it, her Waterfowl animation is literally Spiral Cloud Passage, complete with the slashes all around your character effect and everything.
This is also why the animation looks a little awkward for Waterfowl Dance as it's intended to be used on the ground.
Really good theory...
she definitely was supposed to be tomoe in a dlc that unfortunately we never got.
@@GigiusMaximus makes perfect sense, tomoe was even described as almost dancing when she fought. And malenia literally has a move called waterfowl dance. And she has a lot to do with rot, like dragonrot.
It genuinely makes me wonder if FromSoftware would ever consider making a sequel for Sekiro someday. Those were some of the best boss fights ever.
i've heard that miyazaki doesn't like doing sequels
@@liquid1514Yeah well DS3 happened
@@serraramayfield9230 the reason ds3 happened was because miyazaki didn't want to leave the dark souls games on a bad note
@@liquid1514 source pls
@@liquid1514 They sequel bait hard with the canon ending tho
I can tell some of the attacks are faster than their Elden Ring counterparts, and some combos have been revamped. That's nice! Feels more appropriate for Sekiro than just straight up porting her original moveset without any tweaks. Very nice!
1:36 Out of all impressive feats in this video, this moment made my jaw drop. Using the mist raven with Malenia's last attack is truly 🤌
Watching the combo it looks like it has 3 perilous attacks, I have to wonder if you can dodge it without mist raven
Always said Malenia was sekiro boss transplanted into a souls style of game, I mean this kind of shows that this was how she was always meant to be fought. Awesome stuff.
If you think about it a bit more you could swap malenia and demon of hatred and noone would even noticte something is off.
@@matipedi4507 that would be a perfect trade that would better both games a lot.
@@thedoomslayer5863i disagree, I think Demon of hatred is a perfectly good boss within sekiro. I do however agree it would also be good in a more classical dark souls environment.
1:34 Insane combo
Also the deathblow at 2:40 has something poetic to it
Just hearing the sound of Waterfowl being parried was incredible. I can only imagine what kind of crazy things that this mod could allow for.
MY GOD...
THIS IS A MASTERPIECE
AND YOU SIR ONGBAL
ARE THE MADNESS ARTIST
For the longest time I’ve felt that waterfowl dance was originally a move from some kind of Sekiro DLC, likely done by Tomoe. The visual effects, the name and the fact that it’s an extremely unbalanced move for Elden rings combat system really lend itself to that.
Its so crazy that malenia goes from impossibly difficult in ER to mildly challenging in sekiro
That's just how the player makes it look like. She's actually around Isshin's level in difficulty.
@@jackour8167 No
Ur way faster and stronger in sekiro than ER
@@tadeusztu3126man malenia have not rot here if she have rot this would be way more difficult
@@jackour8167 Not even close, Malenia is piss easy in Sekiro.
Amazing!
Malenia is truly a perfect boss for sekiro!
Not really, read the description of the video
@@InsertarNombre-od2bh can you differentiate apple from oranges?
This is where Malenia is coming from. She was Tomoe, sadly they never made the DLC for Sekiro
@@TheRealGigaCat what is an orange?
@@m.h.4907 do you have any proof that she was tomoe?
You can easily tell shes meant for Sekiro, with some tweaks she will fit right in the game.
shes still well suited for elden ring because of elden rings fast stamina recovery and delayed attacks, always giving you a chance to dodge and punish. but yes shes perfect for sekiro too
@@toastedbred2961To be honest I think she has too many gimmicks for an Elden Ring fight. In sekiro she's perfect, but they ruined her fight in ER by giving her lifesteal and a second phase ON TOP of waterfowl. I think it should be either one or the other. (She would be perfect with a slightly nerfed waterfowl and no lifesteal)
@@NightmareBlade10 no way. she would be way too easy with no lifesteal and one phase. the lifesteal is there so people can't just hold up a 100% phys shield like they have the entire rest of the game. i agree that waterfowl is stupid though, it's literally the only reason she's any kind of threat at all. if it was more clear how to successfully dodge it, it would be a lot better.
@@r.r.r.r.r.r.r. “the lifesteal is there so people can’t just hold up a 100% phys shield…” WHAT!? Do you even remotely realize how stupid that sounds coming from you? That’s incredibly lazy, bullshit design & it makes fighting her EVEN WORSE in the offset. This is made incredibly unfair with her being way too aggressive & lacking any semblance of cooldown. Might I add, the previous Souls entries actually DID give bosses a cooldown; even the Orphan of Kos isn’t this aggressive, even in his 2nd phase. And it’s a boss I have managed to beat several times with no issues at all. Sorry, man, but I can’t excuse unfair design; FromSoft may be legends at their craft, but Elden is where I’m REALLY gonna be blunt about that. I don’t care if it won GOTY; I will call their bluff & keep commenting how shit their game design is here. If they had just stuck to a Sekiro DLC instead, and if we FINALLY got to see what Tomoe would’ve been like instead of leaving us to speculate, I wouldn’t be angry; until then, I am, and I’m never playing Elden or their other properties again if FromSoft is going to keep fucking it all up by putting the wrong bosses in the wrong games. I feel like I got robbed of $60 for a game whose latter half is butchered & likely hasn’t been patched in months.
@@r.r.r.r.r.r.r. Hahahaha you're missing out. From nerfed shields hard, mate.
It's not 100% phys shield, it's Fingerprint + Barricade + Talismans + Lots of Stamina or you're fucked. Especially taking Malenia's big damage into account.
I understand the limitations of this mod and yet I am enamoured with simply how well they managed to make it gel with Sekiro's system. These games are entirely different and yet here she is!
Now I understand why people said that Malenia was a Sekiro boss in Elden Ring. Those parries dude, amazing.
Now someone's got to place Demon of Hatred into Elden Ring as a boss battle.
Frfr
와.. 이건 진짜 굉장하네요. 공격 모션이랑 간파 모션 알맞게 다 구현한게 ㄹㅇ 레전드;;
I swear Fromsoft was preparing for a Sekiro DLC with Tomoe as a major boss, but after the DLC got cancelled they used what was left of Tomoe's moveset for Malenia.
Nah
Stop saying nonsense. There is no clue of Tomoe being like that
that's bullshit but I believe it
@@hensinkswell the fact she barely fits into Elden ring (is a bad fight, you fight one move and that’s the fight), has a prothsesis, has some kind of proto-Sakura dance. Animation cancels, has a thrust attack that could be mikiri counterable. She could easily have been partially made in sekiro then moved over to Elden ring and remade. It’s a reasonable option
@@Boamere It's cool to have baseless theories, we will never have proof to disprove or prove it... but to say it doesn't fit into Elden Ring is a straight up coping rant. Don't get offended but you sound like someone who got majorly filtered by Malenia.
Finally ... the Tomoe fight we always wanted
The fight we always wanted, but never really got. It would’ve been nice if FromSoft had just put THIS boss in the right fucking game; she doesn’t belong in Elden Ring.
@@AlastorAltruistGaming lol doesn't belong in Elden Ring? What a bad take, she works great in Elden Ring one of the best bosses in that game. But she's perfect for Sekiro.
@angeryboigaming8562 she absolutely belongs to elden ring
@@optionallemon9262absolutely NOT one of the best bosses in that game.
@@morepower6800yes she does
1:36 is probably the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
Edit: It's honestly so impressive how well you've mastered the deceptively deep mechanics of this game. I really hope that From Soft makes a second Sekiro! I keep my fingers crossed for that day.
This actually fits Sekiro more than it does Elden Ring imo.
that's actually insane, great gameplay as always
I love that From's tech is allowing such awesome crossovers. Elden Ring bosses in Sekiro, Dark Souls 3 bosses in Elden Ring, Armored Core 6 assets being to correct scale when brought back into Elden Ring, etc.
I know it's probably impossible, but it would be fun if Nightfall from AC6 could be brought back into Sekiro, just to see the Mikiri counter on the Pile Bunker.
YES!
0:25 That Mikiri Counter was MONEY
It finally happened.
The prosthetic. The katana. The kick. The grab. The fucking Waterfowl with its trails in the air evoking One Mind from Isshin. The obsession with never having been defeated. The very obviously parryable attacks. It's all been so clear from the start.
Malenia was meant to be Tomoe.
The closest thing we'll ever get to a Lady Tomoe fight.
Malenia in Sekiro's world?
Now let's see how Wolf would fight in the lands between.
By the way this video... extraordinary. Huge Kudos to both Ongbal and the modder.
Funny how in Sekiro she is fair, pretty easy even.
Compared to someone like Isshin.
there is a mod that lets you use perfect parries and the moveset from sekiro
@@streptococo4735 Easy yeah sure bro
dude her moveset looks twice as punishable as Isshin wtf are you smoking?@@streptococo4735
@@streptococo4735Try the mod before writing that sort of thing lol.
Finally, the one fight we all waited for.
This feels like the fight she was designed to have
This is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a while. Bravo. You my friend are dope af
So wonderful to see the modding community working on this! I love you're vids ONGBAL and tysm for always showcasing new and upcoming mods.
For how elegant Malenia is , her hits feel so heavy. They pack quite the power with each blow fitting for a demigod or better , for a goddess.
They made radhan and malenia the perfect demigods, its rewarding when you beat both lol
🤓
This goes to show just how incredible Sekiro’s combat system is
It more so shows how Malenia's moveset was probably intended for sekiro but they put it in Elden Ring
Just a reminder, From Software had all Wolf's animations and movesets, based Elden Ring around that sort of fast paced movement and then gave you DS3 controls
Theres no way you can watch this and not think Melania was designed for sekiro.
So much about this is cathartic.
A nice touch is the fact that the mod creators changed the color of Malenia's hair and wings to grey, cause that makes it look like she has dragonrot instead of scarlet rot!
holy shit it plays exactly like a sekiro boss
피하고 때리는 소울류와 다르게 세키로 스타일 전투는 보스를 힘으로 제압한다는 느낌이 들어서 언제봐도 멋있는 전투씬을 보는것 같음.
This man opens the video by shutting her up instantly as he blocks her waterfowl dance
he killed her with the mortal blade without even taking it out
Watching this made me realize how much I fucking hate elden rings combat, or lack there of
Dude for real, how Fromsoft made such fluid and smooth combat with Sekiro then went back to Dark Souls mechanics😅
Modding community really just be using the reality stone to conjure up whatever pleases them 😂
Beautiful. Wow she definitely would fit better in Sekiro that's for sure.
Cannot believe the modder even got the Mikiri counter working, that's awesome as fuck
Assim ela fica fácil, a habilidade mais forte dela é recuperar vida quando acerta o ataque, enquanto ela não quebrar a guarda não recupera vida, logo fica fácil.
Finally, our promised Tomoe boss fight!
FYI: Malenia’s Waterflow Dance was found in Sekiro’s data files as Tomoe’s unused Moveset
Really? I wanna take a look, can you show me where you found it?
Malenia: Everywhere I go, I see his face.
We can see here how Malenia's moveset fits way more the fast paced Parry combat from Sekiro than Elden Ring itself
this is incredibly well put together
I did something similar in Elden Ring after the dlc came out, using the deflecting hardtear and Eupora twinblade on a multi hit and guard counter build... it literally *melted* her, even with the lifesteal
Cara, seus vídeos são incríveis, são pura arte, eu comecei a jogar Sekiro uns meses atrás por conta de você, claro, não com a mesma habilidade, muito longe disso kkkkkkk.
O que você fez com o Rei dos Títeres no Lies of P foi algo absurdamente satisfatório de se ver. Virei um grande apreciador do seu material, parabéns, cara.
Brazil mentioned
O cara realmente manja demais do game
She fitted Sekiro so much better. Now I want Sekiro game but with Dark Souls esthetics.
Malenia was naturally made for sekiro. Beautiful 💜
"You maybe the strongest in your homeland, but not in this land."
I was waiting for this video the moment I saw the mod
Whoever made this mod is a genius
This is beautiful! Sekiro got me through a particularly dark time in my life and seeing this, for me, is what has been missing since the end credits rolled on Shadow die twice. Please Miyazaki, make another Sekiro.
If there was ever a doubt that malenia was just a reworked lady tomoe boss
Malenia, a Sekiro boss in Elden Ring.
Guardian ape, an Elden Ring Boss in Sekiro.
The impact, the screen shake, the Isshin sidestep, the added moves, this is peak.
엘든 링에서 말레니아한테 죽으면서 세키로의 튕겨내기가 얼마나 절실했는지 모릅니다. 그걸 충족시켜주는 멋진 모드네요
진짜 엘든링에서 찌르기 나올때마다 간파하기가 얼마나 그리웠는지..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Finally the way this fight supposed to be.
This is amazing and I’m happy with what it is now but honestly I feel like it should be a ginichiro type of boss to where you fight her for her first 2 health bars and then there’s a third as goddess of rot
I ain’t gonna lie this is how I imagined my character fighting
Melania.
Those parry’s are so fucking cool
Finally it's Malenia but actually fun to fight for a change
This is insane! Wish the map was different though
I wish ER had Sekiro combat included. Just so you have a choice of play style. I tried ER in the hopes of getting some deflects with a shield. But that was way too boring.
Dropped the game and came back to Sekrio :D
Well done on mikiri countering her fast thrust. I have no idea if there’s a pattern to it.
She will step backwards 3 times before she does it. It is RNG though because she can do other moves after stepping back 3 times.
malena be like - why isnt this dude rolling
Malenia: I am ?NpcName? , and I have never known defeat. *Gets mikiri countered* I may know defeat soon.....
This shows how much better the combat system in Sekiro was.
The crossover of all time!
Jesus Christ this looks so much better that the original one. Parrying faterfowl and the clones attack of phase 2 is just chef's kiss
"Fine, I'll add my OWN DLC!"
~Modders
Which really sucks balls because that means these kinda mods are specifically for PC…
I have a PS4…
And my computer doesn’t run 3D games all that well! 😭😭
If we had just gotten the Sekiro DLC instead of Elden Mid, it would’ve been so damn cool!
I was constantly thinking about this happening and how much malenia would fit as a sekiro boss as opposed to elden ring and sure enough. Waterfowl dance being parried is actually amazing
I was of the theory that Malenia's attacks are actually Spiral Cloud Passage
And it looks like they really are
EDIT: Now that I think about it, Malenia and Miquella seem like Tomoe and Genichiro
Hardest Elden Ring Boss -> Easiest Sekiro Boss
When an Elden Ring boss has to fight an actual swordsman.
Time for you to meet a true swordmaster, Blade of Miquella.
when i see people saying that malenia should have belong to sekiro ... i thought it was an exaggerated but seeing in action ....holy shit she really is in the wrong dimension