The very first sentence in this video calls Orthodox Christianity ONE of the oldest traditions of Christianity?!!!! The Orthodox Church is the ancient Church established by Christ and His Apostles and it ALONE dates to Pentecost in 33 A.D., and it ALONE is the #1 most ancient Church in Christendom. There is NO older Church or older tradition!!!
(The presentation here - is mainly okay, but there are mispronunciations and misspellings [some bad ones which such as thesis for theosis - really bad]. But this may stimulate your interest in Orthodoxy.) This is for people exploring Orthodoxy and want to visit an Orthodox church (Cradle Orthodox here) from the standpoint of a first visit - what to expect. This is from the Greek tradition, but much of it applies to all flavors of Orthodoxy. Time: The "time" of the Divine Liturgy will be stated on the website or in some other public fashion. There is an earlier service - Orthos / Matins - that has to do with preparing the bread (mostly) for the Communion/Liturgy service, and introduces the particular day of the Orthodox calendar. That earlier service will appear to a newcomer as indistinguishable from the start of the Liturgy. It will blend in, but an experienced person will hear and see the familiar start of the Liturgy. So, come a little early and take it in. Entry: Most Orthodox churches have an entryway called the Narthex (Vestibule) where you can collect yourself before you enter the main part - the Nave. There in the Narthex parishioners can purchase a candle and light a candle at a candle stand with an icon. You won't do that. There will be one or more parishioners - likely parish council members - that will take the money for the candles or donations or "dues", and should welcome newcomers, Orthodox or otherwise. Feel free to introduce yourself. You might be asked to fill out a card with info that the priest at the end of the service might announce to the Faithful. When you are ready, enter the Nave. Icons: The word means image, but has a deeper meaning to the Faithful. Icons are prayerfully "written" not painted. They are reverenced, and not worshipped. There IS a difference. Observe but do not attempt to kiss an icon - would be meaningless. Nave: This is the central part of the church where the Faithful are. Enter the Nave and take a place - spot or pew seat - as you wish. Like any other place of gathering, some spots may be favorites of the "regulars", so be willing to move slightly here or there. Other than for weddings and funerals, there is no reserve seating, and no paid pews. Pews: For Orthodox churches with pews, the parishioners will sit, then stand, and sit again, over and over, and may kneel. Do what is comfortable to you. I recommend you stand when the parishioners stand, but feel free not to - but you'll get a better view of things if you do. Probably do not kneel, but rather sit respectfully. Structure: The Liturgy is broadly divided into the Liturgy of the Word - up to include the Gospel reading - and Liturgy of the Faithful - up to and including the Holy Communion. Then a short dismissal service. They all blend together. Depending on your background you may recognize the Nicaean Creed and the Lord's Prayer. These may be recited in two or more languages depending on the parish. As you experience Orthodoxy, you will see that many phrases and verbal images are repeated. Plan on staying to the end/dismissal, but you may leave at any time. Holy Communion: Holy Communion in an Orthodox Church is for Orthodox Christians. No exceptions. The components are leavened bread and wine with a bit of warm water. It is offered via a spoon. In most cases the dismissal service closely follows Communion. (Some churches have the sermon following Communion.) Usually followed by announcements. Singing: Most Orthodox hymns will be new to you. Even if a church has a choir, parishioners are free to sing. Most who choose to sing will "sub-sing" for most hymns, letting the choir dominate. There can be exceptions - parishioners will vigorously sing, specially during the pre- "Easter" services - "Easter" is called Pascha in Orthodoxy (and in most southern and eastern European countries / Mediterranean basin, even if not predominantly Orthodox) - as well as at Pascha and the Sundays after Pascha until Pentecost. Sign of the Cross: The Orthodox frequently cross themselves. Don't do it without instruction. The Orthodox start with head, then torso, right shoulder, and then left shoulder. Fingers in a certain way - not open. Passing the Tray(s). While many Orthodox churches have transitioned to a pledge method for fundraising or rely on tithing for normal church expenses, typically one or more trays will be passed each Sunday before the dismissal service. As a visitor, there is no obligation or expectation for you to make a contribution. Just pass the trays to the next person or an usher. Antidoron: In Greek Orthodox churches and perhaps others, the priest will hand out blessed bread to parishioners as they come up after the service. You may take this as you wish. You are not committing yourself in any way. The bread is called "antidoron", from anti - instead of, and doron - the gifts. It is bread that was NOT used for the Communion bread. The bread is simply made and is quite tasty for what it is. If you decline, simply say you are a visitor learning about Orthodoxy. No harm, no foul. Cross kissing: Instead of antidoron, some Orthodox churches' priests will have a large hand cross which the parishioners will come up and kiss / reverence. Don't do that - an empty gesture without background. Just follow folks out to where they exit. Coffee/reception: Most Orthodox churches will have a coffee hour after the services. Most do NOT have a meal. They likely have alternatives to coffee. These are usually free. Some might have pastries or dessert for sale. Welcoming: Most Orthodox churches have a formal means to welcome visitors. Especially in metropolitan areas in the US. If you are not greeted, it is likely you who does not want to be welcomed. Granted, there are exceptions. If you truly do not feel welcome, then seek another experience. It is not the norm. Other services: In conjunction with the Divine Liturgy, there may be other smaller services added in / appended. Usually these are totally separated after the dismissal, but some may be integrated in, especially if a Bishop is present. There are two that are common. The first is a memorial service for a departed Faithful - Orthodoxy prays for the departed. Here there may be a tray of (dry) boiled wheat that has been decorated with powdered sugar, almonds, currants, and parsley - that symbolizes the soul of the departed. This is distributed to the attendees. The other common service - less so - is a thanksgiving service called the Artoklasia (breaking of bread) - Five Loaves. Special wheat loaves are baked, are blessed in a short service then cut and distributed to the attendees. Relax and let it come to you, but be open.
Misspelt words doesn't represent my intrest in Orthodoxy it is the problem of A.I. I respect every denomination here and I started making videos and getting feedback from every aspect.
thousand years? no 2 thousand years you mean? unchanged from the 1st century, created church from Jesus Christ Himself passed down to the apostles you mean?
@@sloba111brother or sister whoever you are nothing sort of trap I am trying to understand orthodox services and church. Just jumping isn’t it a good approach
@@sloba111It’s not a trap. The tounge is the smallest bit the most dangerous organ you proved it true. I am learning about Orthodox Church and concepts.
The Apostles lived 2,000 years ago. Orthodox Christianity was fashioned 1,000 years later. John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." Sola Scriptura - alone. Read The Word yourself. Enough said. -
So, what's the problem with Apostles living 2000 years ago? We still saved their teachings, and the teachings of their puples, like Dionisius Areopagitus, or Ireneus the Great. While reading church fathers we see how they acknowlege and renounce Apostles words and words of Saints, like apologets later in time not building their understandment on Scripture alone, quoting Church Fathers and Apostles in their works. And no, Orthodoxy wasn't fashioned 1000 years ago. We only finalised then answering dogmatic questions, and that process started by Council of Apostles, that was written in a Book of Acts, another 1000 years ago. Heresies appeared, Church answered, Councils called. Sorry for my English, it's not my native language. About Sola Scriptura. Let me ask you, who made the canon of the Scriptures? What came early - Bible or Church? The answer is Church, estabilshed at the Pentecost in AD 33, and it is still here - Orthdox Church. First Gospel, Gospel of Matthew, was written in AD 55. Last one - Gospel of John, in AD 100. The first canon was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in AD 170. The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, 1 and 2 Peter, and 3 John. In AD 363, the Council of Laodicea stated that only the Old Testament (along with one book of the Apocrypha) and 26 books of the New Testament (everything but Revelation) were canonical and to be read in the churches. The Church through the blessing of Holy Spirit decided, what is canon, and what is not. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of apocryphal books. Why weren't they included at the time? Why did Martin Luthor decide to exclude 7 deuterocanonical books? Did he have the right to do this? And why did we Orthodox preserve them? There are four criteria: 1. Was the author an apostle or intimately related to an apostle? 2. Is the book accepted by the majority of the Body of Christ? 3. Was the book consistent with doctrine and traditional teaching? 4. Did the book provide evidence of high moral and spiritual values reflecting the work of the Holy Spirit? 1 and 3 points were determined by the Holy Traition. In the prologue to the Gospel (John 1:1-18), John first of all speaks about the divine dignity of Christ and about the attitude of people towards Him, some of whom did not believe Him, while others accepted Him. This idea about the different attitudes of people towards the incarnate Word, the idea of the struggle between faith and unbelief, runs through the entire Gospel of John. Because Jesus Christ is Logos, the incarnate Word of God: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. (John 1:1-2, NKJV) 2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 1 Corinthians 11:2 - I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you. God bless.
@@andreybeliy1884 Hi, I am sorry that I was not clearer. With no disrespect intended to any Orthodox sect, I was merely pointing out that this particular sect began 1,000 years after Christ walked the earth in human form - and almost the same time as when the various books of the New Testament were written down. Sola Scriptura. `
Where did you get this "1000 years later" number from? The Eastern Orthodox church was part of the One Church founded by Christ at Pentecost. Unfortunately due to a number of doctrinal differences the One Church split in 1054 resulting in the Eastern Orthodox in the Eastern part of the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church in the Western part of the Roman Empire.
@@aussiebloke51 Hello 🙂If you choose to watch the video again., you should find the answer to your question there. I find it interesting that all the various Orthodox sects make the same claim about being there at Pentecost btw - and the Catholic church too. Each claim that they are the one true church, or at least above any of the others. I have chosen to read & follow the Word of God, as He is The Word made flesh after all. We all can agree on that. Reading The Bible for myself seemed the best place to start. Sola Scriptura & God Bless! -
There's more to the "Filioque" clause than meets the eye, that was added in order to help address the Arian heresy of Christotokos rather than the Theotokos that every Christian believed in... the Filioque was added in address the mission of the trinity, as per God the Father send Jesus Christ (God the Son) and they both sent God the Holy Spirit... so actually we are not wrong when we say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the father and the son...
the arian heresy was stamped out a long time before the fillioque was added in also, if the holy spirit proceeds from the son, how is it that the son is incarnate of the holy spirit? that's double procession
The Filioque is not just about the Son sending the Holy Spirit, Roman Catholics categorically state that the Filioque is about the Holy Spirit eternally proceeding from the Son. It is not a question of the Holy Spirit being temporally sent by the Son, the filioque affirms that the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Son, receiving its divinity from him, which is heresy. The church fathers never taught this and it is not even present in the creed.
@@Ian-fw2fp Not in the West where Arianism was strong among the Germanic peoples. Hence the Pope felt the need to add the Filioque, but did so without consulting the bishops of Alexandria, Jerusalem, Antioch and Constantinople (I miss one). He felt entitle to do so because Western Christianity was strong (at least on the surface) while the eastern dioces had been overrun by islam, weakening (at least outward) Christianity there. The Easter bishops did not accept this innovation, not because they did not agree with its meaning but because if was not put forward in the proper way.
@@mitrimattar6967 I hope that is satire. When Rome declared itself divine, the majority of the Church was in what is now “East”-only relative to Rome. So, sure…relativity
@@GopnikVlad Constantinople was the common name. St Constantine founded the city as his capital as New Rome. While it is not the preferred name, @mitrimattar6967 is not wrong in theory in calling it Roman Orthodox Church. Mehmet II the Ottoman conqueror of Constantinople, conquered the Romans. One of his titles was Roman Emperor. Charlemagne founded the Holy Roman Empire. It was neither holy nor Roman. He was in today's Germany, Aachen. But his propaganda led to diminishing the true Roman Empire and the Church.
You are describing Transubstantiation which is a Catholic belief. (It is very creepy to me.) The Orthodox believe that we receive the Body and Blood of Christ in a mystical manner. To our senses, the bread and wine are what we consume, but we mystically (unexplainable) are actually receiving Christ.
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The very first sentence in this video calls Orthodox Christianity ONE of the oldest traditions of Christianity?!!!! The Orthodox Church is the ancient Church established by Christ and His Apostles and it ALONE dates to Pentecost in 33 A.D., and it ALONE is the #1 most ancient Church in Christendom. There is NO older Church or older tradition!!!
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Couldn't like this any more than a thumbs up.
People just don't understand.
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But Rome has always had the seat of Peter.
@ So Peter was one bishop in Rome of many bishops all over? So what?
(The presentation here - is mainly okay, but there are mispronunciations and misspellings [some bad ones which such as thesis for theosis - really bad]. But this may stimulate your interest in Orthodoxy.) This is for people exploring Orthodoxy and want to visit an Orthodox church (Cradle Orthodox here) from the standpoint of a first visit - what to expect. This is from the Greek tradition, but much of it applies to all flavors of Orthodoxy.
Time: The "time" of the Divine Liturgy will be stated on the website or in some other public fashion. There is an earlier service - Orthos / Matins - that has to do with preparing the bread (mostly) for the Communion/Liturgy service, and introduces the particular day of the Orthodox calendar. That earlier service will appear to a newcomer as indistinguishable from the start of the Liturgy. It will blend in, but an experienced person will hear and see the familiar start of the Liturgy. So, come a little early and take it in.
Entry: Most Orthodox churches have an entryway called the Narthex (Vestibule) where you can collect yourself before you enter the main part - the Nave. There in the Narthex parishioners can purchase a candle and light a candle at a candle stand with an icon. You won't do that. There will be one or more parishioners - likely parish council members - that will take the money for the candles or donations or "dues", and should welcome newcomers, Orthodox or otherwise.
Feel free to introduce yourself. You might be asked to fill out a card with info that the priest at the end of the service might announce to the Faithful. When you are ready, enter the Nave.
Icons: The word means image, but has a deeper meaning to the Faithful. Icons are prayerfully "written" not painted. They are reverenced, and not worshipped. There IS a difference. Observe but do not attempt to kiss an icon - would be meaningless.
Nave: This is the central part of the church where the Faithful are. Enter the Nave and take a place - spot or pew seat - as you wish. Like any other place of gathering, some spots may be favorites of the "regulars", so be willing to move slightly here or there. Other than for weddings and funerals, there is no reserve seating, and no paid pews.
Pews: For Orthodox churches with pews, the parishioners will sit, then stand, and sit again, over and over, and may kneel. Do what is comfortable to you. I recommend you stand when the parishioners stand, but feel free not to - but you'll get a better view of things if you do. Probably do not kneel, but rather sit respectfully.
Structure: The Liturgy is broadly divided into the Liturgy of the Word - up to include the Gospel reading - and Liturgy of the Faithful - up to and including the Holy Communion. Then a short dismissal service. They all blend together. Depending on your background you may recognize the Nicaean Creed and the Lord's Prayer. These may be recited in two or more languages depending on the parish. As you experience Orthodoxy, you will see that many phrases and verbal images are repeated. Plan on staying to the end/dismissal, but you may leave at any time.
Holy Communion: Holy Communion in an Orthodox Church is for Orthodox Christians. No exceptions. The components are leavened bread and wine with a bit of warm water. It is offered via a spoon. In most cases the dismissal service closely follows Communion. (Some churches have the sermon following Communion.) Usually followed by announcements.
Singing: Most Orthodox hymns will be new to you. Even if a church has a choir, parishioners are free to sing. Most who choose to sing will "sub-sing" for most hymns, letting the choir dominate. There can be exceptions - parishioners will vigorously sing, specially during the pre- "Easter" services - "Easter" is called Pascha in Orthodoxy (and in most southern and eastern European countries / Mediterranean basin, even if not predominantly Orthodox) - as well as at Pascha and the Sundays after Pascha until Pentecost.
Sign of the Cross: The Orthodox frequently cross themselves. Don't do it without instruction. The Orthodox start with head, then torso, right shoulder, and then left shoulder. Fingers in a certain way - not open.
Passing the Tray(s). While many Orthodox churches have transitioned to a pledge method for fundraising or rely on tithing for normal church expenses, typically one or more trays will be passed each Sunday before the dismissal service. As a visitor, there is no obligation or expectation for you to make a contribution. Just pass the trays to the next person or an usher.
Antidoron: In Greek Orthodox churches and perhaps others, the priest will hand out blessed bread to parishioners as they come up after the service. You may take this as you wish. You are not committing yourself in any way. The bread is called "antidoron", from anti - instead of, and doron - the gifts. It is bread that was NOT used for the Communion bread. The bread is simply made and is quite tasty for what it is. If you decline, simply say you are a visitor learning about Orthodoxy. No harm, no foul.
Cross kissing: Instead of antidoron, some Orthodox churches' priests will have a large hand cross which the parishioners will come up and kiss / reverence. Don't do that - an empty gesture without background. Just follow folks out to where they exit.
Coffee/reception: Most Orthodox churches will have a coffee hour after the services. Most do NOT have a meal. They likely have alternatives to coffee. These are usually free. Some might have pastries or dessert for sale.
Welcoming: Most Orthodox churches have a formal means to welcome visitors. Especially in metropolitan areas in the US. If you are not greeted, it is likely you who does not want to be welcomed. Granted, there are exceptions. If you truly do not feel welcome, then seek another experience. It is not the norm.
Other services: In conjunction with the Divine Liturgy, there may be other smaller services added in / appended. Usually these are totally separated after the dismissal, but some may be integrated in, especially if a Bishop is present.
There are two that are common. The first is a memorial service for a departed Faithful - Orthodoxy prays for the departed. Here there may be a tray of (dry) boiled wheat that has been decorated with powdered sugar, almonds, currants, and parsley - that symbolizes the soul of the departed. This is distributed to the attendees.
The other common service - less so - is a thanksgiving service called the Artoklasia (breaking of bread) - Five Loaves. Special wheat loaves are baked, are blessed in a short service then cut and distributed to the attendees.
Relax and let it come to you, but be open.
Misspelt words doesn't represent my intrest in Orthodoxy it is the problem of A.I. I respect every denomination here and I started making videos and getting feedback from every aspect.
Pacha? It’s pronounced “Paska”. Probably an AI generated voice. Ridiculous.
It's not one of the oldest, it's THE one and only, the one that gave us Credo, the ONLY one that is mentioned there.
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Theosis* not thesis
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Easter is pronounced Paskha not Potsha [at 8:10 of the video]..
Are you proud of yourself?
This is a very poor description of the Orthodox Church (the faith Christ gave to the Apostles on Pentecost).
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thousand years? no 2 thousand years you mean? unchanged from the 1st century, created church from Jesus Christ Himself passed down to the apostles you mean?
Do they worship Mariyam ? And the saints ???
Eager to know
We do not worship them, we venerate them. Poor attempt for setting up a trap.
@@joychristie No.
@@sloba111brother or sister whoever you are nothing sort of trap I am trying to understand orthodox services and church. Just jumping isn’t it a good approach
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Thank you so much sir. Any references in The Bible of Joseph being married earlier have children ?
@@sloba111It’s not a trap. The tounge is the smallest bit the most dangerous organ you proved it true. I am learning about Orthodox Church and concepts.
The Apostles lived 2,000 years ago. Orthodox Christianity was fashioned 1,000 years later.
John 1:14
"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
Sola Scriptura - alone.
Read The Word yourself.
Enough said.
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So, what's the problem with Apostles living 2000 years ago? We still saved their teachings, and the teachings of their puples, like Dionisius Areopagitus, or Ireneus the Great. While reading church fathers we see how they acknowlege and renounce Apostles words and words of Saints, like apologets later in time not building their understandment on Scripture alone, quoting Church Fathers and Apostles in their works. And no, Orthodoxy wasn't fashioned 1000 years ago. We only finalised then answering dogmatic questions, and that process started by Council of Apostles, that was written in a Book of Acts, another 1000 years ago. Heresies appeared, Church answered, Councils called. Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.
About Sola Scriptura. Let me ask you, who made the canon of the Scriptures? What came early - Bible or Church? The answer is Church, estabilshed at the Pentecost in AD 33, and it is still here - Orthdox Church. First Gospel, Gospel of Matthew, was written in AD 55. Last one - Gospel of John, in AD 100. The first canon was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in AD 170. The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, 1 and 2 Peter, and 3 John. In AD 363, the Council of Laodicea stated that only the Old Testament (along with one book of the Apocrypha) and 26 books of the New Testament (everything but Revelation) were canonical and to be read in the churches. The Church through the blessing of Holy Spirit decided, what is canon, and what is not.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of apocryphal books. Why weren't they included at the time? Why did Martin Luthor decide to exclude 7 deuterocanonical books? Did he have the right to do this? And why did we Orthodox preserve them? There are four criteria:
1. Was the author an apostle or intimately related to an apostle?
2. Is the book accepted by the majority of the Body of Christ?
3. Was the book consistent with doctrine and traditional teaching?
4. Did the book provide evidence of high moral and spiritual values reflecting the work of the Holy Spirit?
1 and 3 points were determined by the Holy Traition.
In the prologue to the Gospel (John 1:1-18), John first of all speaks about the divine dignity of Christ and about the attitude of people towards Him, some of whom did not believe Him, while others accepted Him. This idea about the different attitudes of people towards the incarnate Word, the idea of the struggle between faith and unbelief, runs through the entire Gospel of John. Because Jesus Christ is Logos, the incarnate Word of God: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. (John 1:1-2, NKJV)
2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.
1 Corinthians 11:2 -
I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.
God bless.
@@andreybeliy1884 Hi, I am sorry that I was not clearer. With no disrespect intended to any Orthodox sect, I was merely pointing out that this particular sect began 1,000 years after Christ walked the earth in human form - and almost the same time as when the various books of the New Testament were written down.
Sola Scriptura.
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Where did you get this "1000 years later" number from? The Eastern Orthodox church was part of the One Church founded by Christ at Pentecost. Unfortunately due to a number of doctrinal differences the One Church split in 1054 resulting in the Eastern Orthodox in the Eastern part of the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church in the Western part of the Roman Empire.
@@aussiebloke51 Hello 🙂If you choose to watch the video again., you should find the answer to your question there.
I find it interesting that all the various Orthodox sects make the same claim about being there at Pentecost btw - and the Catholic church too.
Each claim that they are the one true church, or at least above any of the others.
I have chosen to read & follow the Word of God, as He is The Word made flesh after all.
We all can agree on that.
Reading The Bible for myself seemed the best place to start.
Sola Scriptura & God Bless!
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@@male42nfree Did you just clam that there was no church at all until you read your Bible? Care to tell us what Church existed before 1054CE?
There's more to the "Filioque" clause than meets the eye, that was added in order to help address the Arian heresy of Christotokos rather than the Theotokos that every Christian believed in... the Filioque was added in address the mission of the trinity, as per God the Father send Jesus Christ (God the Son) and they both sent God the Holy Spirit... so actually we are not wrong when we say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the father and the son...
the arian heresy was stamped out a long time before the fillioque was added in
also, if the holy spirit proceeds from the son, how is it that the son is incarnate of the holy spirit? that's double procession
The Filioque is not just about the Son sending the Holy Spirit, Roman Catholics categorically state that the Filioque is about the Holy Spirit eternally proceeding from the Son.
It is not a question of the Holy Spirit being temporally sent by the Son, the filioque affirms that the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Son, receiving its divinity from him, which is heresy.
The church fathers never taught this and it is not even present in the creed.
@@Ian-fw2fp Not in the West where Arianism was strong among the Germanic peoples. Hence the Pope felt the need to add the Filioque, but did so without consulting the bishops of Alexandria, Jerusalem, Antioch and Constantinople (I miss one). He felt entitle to do so because Western Christianity was strong (at least on the surface) while the eastern dioces had been overrun by islam, weakening (at least outward) Christianity there. The Easter bishops did not accept this innovation, not because they did not agree with its meaning but because if was not put forward in the proper way.
@martijnb5887 byzantium wasn't overrun with Islam at the time, not for another 400 years
We know why it was added; it's still wrong.
Yahusha did not establish Orthodoxy
Concept of theosis, not thesis.
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Eastern orthodox church means Eastern side of the Roman Empire!
It's the Roman Orthodox Church!
@@mitrimattar6967 ok
@@mitrimattar6967 I hope that is satire. When Rome declared itself divine, the majority of the Church was in what is now “East”-only relative to Rome. So, sure…relativity
@@GopnikVlad Constantinople was the common name. St Constantine founded the city as his capital as New Rome. While it is not the preferred name, @mitrimattar6967 is not wrong in theory in calling it Roman Orthodox Church.
Mehmet II the Ottoman conqueror of Constantinople, conquered the Romans. One of his titles was Roman Emperor.
Charlemagne founded the Holy Roman Empire. It was neither holy nor Roman. He was in today's Germany, Aachen. But his propaganda led to diminishing the true Roman Empire and the Church.
Thesis? 😂😂😂 I think you meant Theosis.
Theosis 💯
You made a mistake at the end - Orthodox see Catholicism as a sect, besides acknowledging it. And there is no "apostolic" church, as such, either.
Ok
I can’t get past actual body and blood. Sorry.
You are describing Transubstantiation which is a Catholic belief. (It is very creepy to me.)
The Orthodox believe that we receive the Body and Blood of Christ in a mystical manner. To our senses, the bread and wine are what we consume, but we mystically (unexplainable) are actually receiving Christ.