@@edamix3184nope season 2’a ending was not good. The whole alien subplot meant nothing at all. The reported is a Mary Sue and having a child meant nothing. The whole opening with killing the two kids was pointless. Like, the ending of season 2 was not good at all
@@edamix3184 It really wasn't. It wasn't the worst ending, and personally season 2 is my all time favorite, but it was a good look into their future issues of putting too much into the story without actually knowing how it would all end. They're right; Ryan just doesn't know how to end his shows. He knows how to start them, how to build them, but than flubs the landing -- sometimes it's not too bad of a flub, but othertimes it feels like he fell right on his face.
For me it was the bad endings to almost every season after 1. They ran into the Marvel problem. They had great setups, but then they'd try too hard to trick the audience into not seeing the ending coming. A season would start so well, but the ending would squander the whole premise just so it wouldn't be what the audience expects. One thing I can't stand is writing poorly on purpose just to surprise your audience. I liked the Freak Show season, though I don't remember the ending. I liked the Hotel season, though I don't remember the ending. But I eventually gave up on the show because they had so many trash endings.
Agree. The first few seasons were good at the start, they would have a good premise, but the creators just don't know how to end the stories in a strong and coherent way
Finally someone who actually has been paying attention. 😭 The was indeed evident season 1 had a terrible track record of strong build up and no follow through. And asylum as great as it was meandered a ton half way in. It became a joke that even other shows started mocking them over it. 🤣 I remember watching 2 Broke Girls the other week and they said this one character is more messy and "more unplanned than a season of AHS" the problem was evident even
I met Jessica Lange at Anthropologie in New Orleans back in 2014 when AHS was at its peak. She was the most elegant person I’ve ever met. Extremely cordial. I’ve loved her since Big Fish.
when they announced nph i was disappointed, the show prior felt kinda, niche? if that makes sense. i loved season 1-2 but the final for me was freakshow. i tried hotel but ended up just dropping it midway
Exactly! She can't act, but that's only part of the problem. Her ″brand″ supercedes anything she does. She would have to be a Tatiana Maslany level actress to make us forget that's she's fuckin Kim Kardashian. People like her only work when they cameo playing exaggerated versions of themselves.
@@fssstyuniaf 100%! Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters and Lily Rabe were the backbone of the show after Lange's departure (there were obviously other great supporting actors), so the show might as well be called something else at this point
@@thaneros I was si disappointed when it first aired but now I think its kind of okay, compared to the years after! With the exception of APOCALYPSE. Yeah it was also disappointing, but it had its great moments and the characters were great.
I gave up on AHS for good with Cults. I thought it had real potential, especially trying to frame politics as mass psychosis, but it kept twisting for the sake of twists. Apocalypse was just nuts; it's the end of the world, no wait it's witchcraft, no wait it's time travel and meta. It just felt like they couldn't decide on a single story, and somehow expected the audience to be wowed by quantity over quality.
Yeah apocalypse ruined it for me. It’s was dumb. If they just stuck with the end of the world idea, it would’ve done good. I was so into it the first episode, in fact I was excited, I love post apocalyptic movies. Then the witches came along, and I lost interest in the entire show.
I stopped after the first episode of the political crap. It just wasn't appealing. Give me fictional horror; politics are everyday real life. The reality show one was god awful.
Every season has the strange feeling that the first half was written by skilled storytellers.... and then they pass off the last episodes to a bunch of fresh out of college interns. Every damn season!!
Yes. This! Every single season for me felt like this. Especially Freakshow. It started off sooooo good and then they killed twisty and went off the rails
@@ocky88 totally and with every season the pattern is same first 5 episodes would be used for the build up then 4 episodes would be used for some development and in final episodes all downhill
It was terrible! There literally was no plot! It simply dragged out and never explained the spiderweb coming out of Emma's hair. Dropped storylines galore!
Roanoke was amazing, it's a slow start but it has KATHY BATES as the villain and i really liked the interactions between the "real" characters and the "actors" playing them and the way they fold the meta-narrative into the narrative near the end
The first season was self-contained, actually had a legit ending and closure. Ending seasons with voiceovers and montages gets old, and some later seasons didn't really have an ending at all. They just stopped LOL
From what I remember tho even Murder House kinda fell into the shows typical trap of dragging out the story a bit too much and kinda fumbling the ending
@@vinnym5607 I stopped after about 4 episodes because it was SO BORING. They were all just sitting around and talking talking talking in dark rooms. Boring AF.
Started so strong and just dipped in quality. It's now a "look at all the famous people we got in our show" now. Fuck the scares fuck the story let's just pander to the "influencer" crowd.
The last season I saw was Freak Show. By that point, I accepted that uninteresting side plots and totally forgetting/giving disappointing conclusions to others were just part of the formula, and I was tired of it.
@@HarlequinHeart16 after him and the worst Dahmer show/movie I've ever seen, I question everything he touches now. I used to really enjoy him up till then. Lol
I know Roanoke is panned by a lot of folks, but it's one of my favorites. Looking at the critique in the video it makes me think that the tone shifts in each season simply appeal to a different part of the horror audience. idk
My biggest issues after Asylum is they always have good concepts and themes but absolute terrible execution and plot point goes nowhere, hence I think teaser is better than the whole show. It has some moments and engaging but the shows always style over substance, and focus on drama more than horror. I quit after Apocalypse due to terrible plots and never look back. I know JJ Abrams and Zack Snyder are getting flack for great concept, start strong but terrible execution and disappointment ends (and deserve it so; also I like Lost ending even Abrams is not Lost showrunner), but Ryan Murphy is the king of this, especially if you watch Glee and Nip/Tuck. I never finished all his series because they just a drunken stumble to the finish line that started off strong. Like Abrams, he's very good at coming up with fascinating concepts. But the man can't continue a story for long to save his life, though. I always hope that his shows turn out better than they actually do. It's always a strong foot forward then a stumble. The only things that saved the show is phenomenon acting (Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe, Jessica Lange, Evan Peters, Kathy Bates, Frances Conroy, etc.), but since everyone move from next big things and acting quality is downhill so I don't care anymore.
I was waiting for that too, especially since he said that he was "pausing" the video for the ad read, only to then read the outro after it. This channel has unfortunately become just another soulless content mill among many.
Apocalypse was a complete trainwreck. I was hopeful at first, but then the whole cast was killed off only to bring back the same actors for previous characters. Some even had 3 parts. It was so hard to stay interested.
Man, I remember watching it when it came out and being so confused, confounded, befuddled and vexed. What the hell were they doing?? Did they even know?? 😭😭
Haven't watched any of the seasons since 1984, which I think was one of their better seasons. The ending to 1984 was probably the closest to a happy ending we could get and it felt like the end of AHS to me honestly
What went wrong? The fact that the scripts put 100 different subplots together in the same storyline making a narrative mess. The fact that for a horror show, the series has no suspense, dread and no actual scares, it just throws scenes at you and when it doesn't know what to do, it slashes someone's throat out of nowhere. And it doesn't help that a lot of times characters who die come back as ghosts and keep appearing and being developed in the plot. (Seriously, some of the dead folks have more character depth than the living) and deaths have no stake at all in the show. The ones who are not brought back, keep going as ghosts, ghosts who smoke, drink, have sex and etc. Being dead in AHS is not the worse, but the best thing that could happen to a character, honestly. Where's the horror in that?
@jhowneedj5518. This was my exact problem with Coven.. which seems to be everyone’s favorite. Death meant absolutely NOTHING.. every episode a character would die and I couldn’t care less because I knew someone (first, just Misty, then.. all of them!) would bring them back. Lost any/all suspense. Then Apocalypse came around and even the very small handful that died were brought back! 🤣 Roanoke was my last season. I liked most of it… until the last 2-3 episodes. 😏
A lot of people blame Lange as the downfall, I don't think that... it was Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson opting out that really set the show on a downward spiral, they kept the show going strong for several years after Lange left
I’m just here to remind everyone that they did Moira dirty.. in Murder House, it was revealed she couldn’t move on and be with her mother, even though she was an innocent victim. In Apocalypse, they went back to Murder House and freed her soul… only to undo all of that with time travel, erasing what had happened earlier. Justice for Moira 😭
The show suffers from the same issues that Dr. Who has suffered with increasingly erratic storylines, and heavy handed political messaging. There's just no cohesion to the story anymore, it takes wild turns for reasons that don't make sense, even when there is another clear path to follow. Like the ending in Ride Tide is a prime example. I really liked the direction which the story was going but then it took a sudden shift into politics, and an overall failure to wrap up the story it had first set out to tell. They need different writers who are focused on telling a scary story and not trying to tell a heavy handed social commentary with some horror thrown in.
Was that Kim K in the last season?! Wow just from that clip I can tell she was an awful actor. Lady Gaga wasn’t an actor but the difference is that L.G. is a creative and an entertainer whereas Kim is an opportunist and has a background in nothing except being born into lots of $.
This show works a lot better now when you can binge. The half seasons and delays in premiere episodes (often without a recap before episodes) was BRUTAL
The only season I legitimately felt scared was Asylum. Watching Sarah Paulson's character lose her autonomy in so many ways was scary. The redemption Jessica Langs character felt genuine and I felt like the show actually had something to say about mental illness in the US. The biggest problem with just about all seasons is that they start off on an interesting premise, lose focus then rush the last 2 episodes tying up plots and characters. Theres some sort of lack of planning with the writing and plotting like half the show is written and then shooting begins.
Freak Show was the first series to really fail because they had a fantastic protagonist character in the John Wayne Gacy-inspired Twisty, who was truly maniacal and terrifying. But the story arc hinged around mystery; not knowing the back story and how he'd ended up where he was, and then suddenly in episode 4 they gave you everything and that was the end of the character who was really driving the series. He didn't appear again, that was it! Because they'd played their wild card, the series then for the remainder just meandered through these relationship psychodramas of the other characters with nothing really propelling it. After that the following series were very up and down. Roanoake was terrible as was Delicate. No wonder they've decided to move on after the last one.
Same here. Lost most interest during Hotel, watched Roanoke but barely had interest in it, watched one episode of Cult and checked out after that. Then Apocalypse came and barely drew me in and gave up on the show. When 1984 came out, I was skeptical but it turned out to be one of my favorite seasons and actually the last season I watched. The ending to 1984, looking back on it now, was probably the closest thing to a happy ending and felt like the end of AHS to me
It started when they added Gaga and the series started to get the vibe of a music video with image being more important than story. Lange I could watch in every episode for eternity.
I unfortunately first attempted American Horror Story around the time I was watching Hannibal, and in terms of artistry and restraint, the contrast was too strong for me to stick with it.
@@katrinamack444 When the pig man jumped up from the back of the car, I actually jumped and screeched. It was a highly effective jump scare. Almost everything in the to or three episodes after they switched back to Season 2 of the show and mixed "the cast" with "the actors" was genuinely scary. The only part that fell flat for me were all the scenes with the rednecks; those were really lame and cheesy. But most of the rest of it worked spectacularly. By far the best season of that show. I watched all of Season 1 despite disliking it and Season 6 is the only other season I've watched every episode of because the rest were also horrible. In fact, most of them looked so bad that I didn't bother watching a single episode at all.
@@katrinamack444 The pig man jumping out from the back of the car actually made me jump and screech out loud. It was a highly effective jump scare. Everything they did in that season following the switch to season 2 with the "cast" mixing with the "actors" was actually chilling and frightening. All the acting, the make up, everything was highly effective. They did a great job. By far the greatest season of this show, hands down. Most of the other seasons are so lame I didn't make it through all the episodes or skipped all together.
I could enjoy most of the seasons. Roanoke got me into it. They were enjoyable. But the outright insane and poor writing of the antichrist season just put me off for life. It was insulting
Thank you for pointing out the problem about how they barely give a person to root for, most characters are terrible and of course everyone ends up dying, knowing that makes the show quite boring after a while
You should definitely try 1984. The subplots are limited and the overarching story is a much better watch. The aesthetics and all are also very beautiful!
I think the number one thing that drives me crazy are the dropped storylines. In this latest season they never explained the spiderweb coming from Emma's hair, or Queen Elizabeth 1.
Their intro sequences are way scarier than the shows themselves. The music, the tone, and the truly unsettling imagery tricked me so many times into tuning in and hoping the show content would live up to it. It never happened after Asylum.
Personally, I enjoyed Double Feature. I thought it had really good themes. The issue was the condensing of the two stories. Both seemed like they could have had a lot of steam left. And just abruptly ended.
I think part of the downfall was Ryan Murphy’s love for campiness. Glee and Scream Queens are examples of just how good he is with camp and it works for those shows but for AHS, you can’t do horror and want people to take it seriously and tie camp to it.
Every Season, since the first few seasons, always starts out so promising. The concepts are always there and very spooky. The first few episodes always get me hooked into what is happening. Then by about episode 4 it gets less entertaining, and I stop watching. I don't think I have finished a season for the last 5 seasons... It's like Ryan Murphy doesn't know how to create a good, satisfying, or at least interesting ending for these shows.
I thought season 1 was alright, LOVED season 2 (but the ending was way too rushed), and hated seasons 3-5. I couldn't even finish those seasons because the story was terrible, I couldn't get invested in any of the characters, and constantly made frustrating non-sensical decisions. I gave up on the show after that. It was an edgy series from the getgo, but quickly became style + shock value over substance after season 2.
Can't agree. The first season was unique and fun, but messy in it's approach. The side plots that go nowhere were on full display. Asylum, Freakshow, Coven, Cult, and 1984 were all good enough. All have B level writing (sometimes B+), so it really just comes down to what kind of horror aesthetic you prefer. I don't think it's accurate at all to say that the first season is somehow unique or better than any of the others.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the first 4 seasons. They each are great in their own unique way. I don't see how every season should look exactely like the first one. it's an anthology. They should have different pace and tone. Season 5 for me is the worst, mostly because it's boring at most times. Season 6 was messy but so much fun. I loved cult, it's one of my favorites. I think that there should have been at least one season revolving around the horrors of real life and that was it. 1984 was fantastic especially for slasher fans. Double feature started good but lost its way mid season. Death valley was absolutely the worst thing i had ever watched so far. Atrocious acting and storyline. I didn't really care much for NYC probably because i was so disapointed at the previous season. Lastly, delicate had a compelling premise and I was immediately invested. However, it kept going nowhere and every episode felt like the same. The season finale was abolutely atrocious and made no sense whatsoever. It made it look like the whole season was a waste. Besides, its length is ridiculous. They rushed things to fit the time and the result is simply awful. It probably had something to do with the strike, I don't know. What i do know is that they have potential to do something great again just like its first 4 years.
I legit went in the first season thinking it was gonna be an intense horror type of show, but it ended up being some kind of melodrama with horror themes.
For me the ending was freak show. It’s felt empty and shock value. I actually took a break after the first episode for very obvious reasons. And when I finally did give it a second chance I wasn’t even invested in the story due to lack of character and charm. All three seasons before had the same morbid twists but it was haunting in a way you needed to know the reasons for the debauchery which the show delivered on. After coven, it never gave us a reason for the horror and evil. It was just- gore without the gore.
Not sure how you didn’t mention the atrocious writing….this show has the worst writers on tv….by far. This show is literally more of a comedy (cause of the writing) than a horror or drama show.
yep couldnt agree more. They have the potential at the beginning but then fail when they try to make sense of all their random subplots that nobody cares about.
Murder House being the first didnt suffer from the shared universe plot, characters returning, the trope of the place that you are stuck in if you die… it was all new , fresh and unpredictable. After that it lost its intrigue for shine and shock value. Jessica Lily Connie and Sarah really carried this show along with Evan.
It’s the fact that they had the audacity to split a simple season with no significance to the overarching story of the entire series into 2 parts. Splitting a season into 2 parts should only be reserved for something of significance.
I was just talking to someone about this because they mentioned how they never watch AHS. I think it started off strong and then after some seasons ehh lol
They really dropped the ball. If they would've kept a formula that was similar to the first three seasons, it would still be something a lot of us would be looking forward to around this time of the year. Just classic horror type themes.
Season 2 was the absolute best, human insanity felt much more sinister than supernatural horror in that season. And season 6 was a refresher by their reality tv meta plot, felt new and unexpected.
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The Rubber Man is the ultimate fetish character.
I like all the seasons.
Do you not know what a penthouse is?
Your jarring ad-cut to end this video exploration completely ruined what you were trying to say about a significant pop-culture phenomenon.
Why a horror fan want to see Lady Gaga or Kim Kardashian, two of the most vapid mainstream people ever, involved. It really cheapens it
We went from Evan Peters and Jessica Lange killing it every season to Emma Roberts and Kim Kardashian’s terrible wooden performances. What a joke
When did Jessica Lange and Evan Peters leave?
@@thallus23 Lange left after Freakshow and Evan’s last one was Double Feature
That’s your opinion but leave Emma out of this. Kim actually respected the work & tried. Let’s not hate on women plz
@@dv.c3700 LOL dude shut the hell up. They both suck and none of them are gonna fuck you
@@dv.c3700 neither of those planks of wood are gonna sleep with you you tool 😂. And to reiterate they both suck
Ryan Murphy is just completely incapable of writing a satisfying ending and knowing *where* to end.
Yet, season 2 ending was really good
@@edamix3184nope season 2’a ending was not good. The whole alien subplot meant nothing at all. The reported is a Mary Sue and having a child meant nothing. The whole opening with killing the two kids was pointless.
Like, the ending of season 2 was not good at all
@BabyGirlTiny season 2 was my least favorite season. They try to put to much in and a lot of it goes no where.
@@edamix3184 It really wasn't. It wasn't the worst ending, and personally season 2 is my all time favorite, but it was a good look into their future issues of putting too much into the story without actually knowing how it would all end.
They're right; Ryan just doesn't know how to end his shows. He knows how to start them, how to build them, but than flubs the landing -- sometimes it's not too bad of a flub, but othertimes it feels like he fell right on his face.
This is definitely the case for this latest season. The last episode was terrible! I was stunned.
For me it was the bad endings to almost every season after 1. They ran into the Marvel problem. They had great setups, but then they'd try too hard to trick the audience into not seeing the ending coming. A season would start so well, but the ending would squander the whole premise just so it wouldn't be what the audience expects. One thing I can't stand is writing poorly on purpose just to surprise your audience. I liked the Freak Show season, though I don't remember the ending. I liked the Hotel season, though I don't remember the ending. But I eventually gave up on the show because they had so many trash endings.
Agree. The first few seasons were good at the start, they would have a good premise, but the creators just don't know how to end the stories in a strong and coherent way
Well iirc didn't Asylum, Freakshow and Hotel all pretty much end the same? With basically "and then everyone dies, the end!"
BECAUSE. MURPHY. SUCKS. AS. A. WRITER. . . PERIOD.
Even season 1 fell apart at the end. The writers never knew how to close and eventually they couldnt even open.
Finally someone who actually has been paying attention. 😭 The was indeed evident season 1 had a terrible track record of strong build up and no follow through. And asylum as great as it was meandered a ton half way in. It became a joke that even other shows started mocking them over it. 🤣 I remember watching 2 Broke Girls the other week and they said this one character is more messy and "more unplanned than a season of AHS" the problem was evident even
I met Jessica Lange at Anthropologie in New Orleans back in 2014 when AHS was at its peak. She was the most elegant person I’ve ever met. Extremely cordial. I’ve loved her since Big Fish.
Big Fish is such an amazing movie.
She's iconic.
You’re fucking lying. Why?
@@themetalchicalmao, dawg. This guy is a known liar
Me too. Id seen that movie a dozen time and it still took me half a season to place her
No offense when you add random famous people it just spells failure
Who can say!
I agree 100%. It just reeks of desperation.
when they announced nph i was disappointed, the show prior felt kinda, niche? if that makes sense. i loved season 1-2 but the final for me was freakshow. i tried hotel but ended up just dropping it midway
So, lady Gaga, Angela Bassett and Cathy Bates spells failure? Or are you just talking Kim k? Your acting career has to start somewhere
@@overcomingwithinhe's not that big, didn't play a big part and was more of a cameo. I'm sure he's flattered by you seeing him as that powerful
Kim Kardashian was the nail in the coffin
Exactly! She can't act, but that's only part of the problem. Her ″brand″ supercedes anything she does. She would have to be a Tatiana Maslany level actress to make us forget that's she's fuckin Kim Kardashian. People like her only work when they cameo playing exaggerated versions of themselves.
The show died long before the Delicate season. It was a train wreck by the time they reached Cult.
Not a fan of kim K but at least she is better than Lena Dunum in season 7.
Kim Kardashian is the nail in every coffin. Talentless. Fake. Unoriginal.
💯 KK flatlined an already dying show
As soon as Jessica Lange was out it was over
She's the best!
@@fssstyuniaf 100%! Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters and Lily Rabe were the backbone of the show after Lange's departure (there were obviously other great supporting actors), so the show might as well be called something else at this point
PRECISELY!!
Hotel was pretty good imo
@@thaneros I was si disappointed when it first aired but now I think its kind of okay, compared to the years after! With the exception of APOCALYPSE. Yeah it was also disappointing, but it had its great moments and the characters were great.
The only scary thing about american horror story is the intros
lol, true. Our next video!
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The teasers as well.
@@rosamariabest6069 they get more "erotic" instead of scary and feel more like model photoshoots but I think thats inetional
The first one was scary though, but after that yea it lost it
I gave up on AHS for good with Cults. I thought it had real potential, especially trying to frame politics as mass psychosis, but it kept twisting for the sake of twists. Apocalypse was just nuts; it's the end of the world, no wait it's witchcraft, no wait it's time travel and meta. It just felt like they couldn't decide on a single story, and somehow expected the audience to be wowed by quantity over quality.
Honestly that's why i loved apocalypse it was so messy and all over the place
Yeah apocalypse ruined it for me. It’s was dumb. If they just stuck with the end of the world idea, it would’ve done good. I was so into it the first episode, in fact I was excited, I love post apocalyptic movies.
Then the witches came along, and I lost interest in the entire show.
Same.
I stopped after the first episode of the political crap. It just wasn't appealing. Give me fictional horror; politics are everyday real life. The reality show one was god awful.
I nutted eternally
Every season has the strange feeling that the first half was written by skilled storytellers.... and then they pass off the last episodes to a bunch of fresh out of college interns. Every damn season!!
Yes. This! Every single season for me felt like this. Especially Freakshow. It started off sooooo good and then they killed twisty and went off the rails
@@ocky88 totally and with every season the pattern is same first 5 episodes would be used for the build up then 4 episodes would be used for some development and in final episodes all downhill
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Yeeeees! This most recent season definitely felt that way. The second half lost me. Roanoke was that way too!
@@ocky88But I enjoy freak show a bit more the episodes after Twisty death, I really love all season 4
One short clip of Kim K and I already know I don’t want to see that season
It was terrible! There literally was no plot! It simply dragged out and never explained the spiderweb coming out of Emma's hair. Dropped storylines galore!
Roanoke was amazing, it's a slow start but it has KATHY BATES as the villain and i really liked the interactions between the "real" characters and the "actors" playing them and the way they fold the meta-narrative into the narrative near the end
Roanoke is actually one of my favorite seasons, I know most people hated it, but it really worked for me
Roanoke was awful. The reality TV aspect ended this series
@@TheYellowSnoman i don't think you watched the whole thing
The first season was self-contained, actually had a legit ending and closure. Ending seasons with voiceovers and montages gets old, and some later seasons didn't really have an ending at all. They just stopped LOL
From what I remember tho even Murder House kinda fell into the shows typical trap of dragging out the story a bit too much and kinda fumbling the ending
@@dylanburton4955 I thought the ending was perfect 🤷
The ensign of murder house felt linens sitcom
AHS will always have 3-5 good episodes now, at the beginning of the season. Then it goes completely off the rails around the halfway point.
Yep. Every single time. Freak show was PERFECT until the killed off Twisty the clown and then started throwing in a bunch of random stuff.
And it almost makes people feel like we're the ones who aren't getting it. No, the real problem is they aren't writing anything that makes sense. 😊
NYC, to me, ended stronger than it started.
@@vinnym5607 I stopped after about 4 episodes because it was SO BORING. They were all just sitting around and talking talking talking in dark rooms. Boring AF.
That’s Ryan Murphy for you. He can start a show but can never reel it all together or have a good ending.
Started so strong and just dipped in quality. It's now a "look at all the famous people we got in our show" now. Fuck the scares fuck the story let's just pander to the "influencer" crowd.
That's way too exagerrated but okay
The last season I saw was Freak Show. By that point, I accepted that uninteresting side plots and totally forgetting/giving disappointing conclusions to others were just part of the formula, and I was tired of it.
In my opinion some of the seasons after freak show are pretty good but some are just so bad
me too, by that point the essence was lost, i tried the first episode of hotel but couldn't finish it
Later seasons really needed someone to tell Ryan Murphy no.
We as a society need to stop Ryan Murphy
he should only be allowed to do one or two seasons of his shows
@@HarlequinHeart16 after him and the worst Dahmer show/movie I've ever seen, I question everything he touches now. I used to really enjoy him up till then. Lol
I know Roanoke is panned by a lot of folks, but it's one of my favorites. Looking at the critique in the video it makes me think that the tone shifts in each season simply appeal to a different part of the horror audience. idk
@@AyeliaGDoren same I loved roanoke
Glee was arguably much creepier than american horror story
Lot of messed up and dead cast members. Very sad.
That elevator scene with Sue is made of nightmares
right
My biggest issues after Asylum is they always have good concepts and themes but absolute terrible execution and plot point goes nowhere, hence I think teaser is better than the whole show. It has some moments and engaging but the shows always style over substance, and focus on drama more than horror. I quit after Apocalypse due to terrible plots and never look back.
I know JJ Abrams and Zack Snyder are getting flack for great concept, start strong but terrible execution and disappointment ends (and deserve it so; also I like Lost ending even Abrams is not Lost showrunner), but Ryan Murphy is the king of this, especially if you watch Glee and Nip/Tuck. I never finished all his series because they just a drunken stumble to the finish line that started off strong. Like Abrams, he's very good at coming up with fascinating concepts. But the man can't continue a story for long to save his life, though. I always hope that his shows turn out better than they actually do. It's always a strong foot forward then a stumble.
The only things that saved the show is phenomenon acting (Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe, Jessica Lange, Evan Peters, Kathy Bates, Frances Conroy, etc.), but since everyone move from next big things and acting quality is downhill so I don't care anymore.
Soooo... where does the video actually start? All I see is a synopsis. An introduction. You didn't add anything of substance, then cut to an ad...
I was waiting for that too, especially since he said that he was "pausing" the video for the ad read, only to then read the outro after it. This channel has unfortunately become just another soulless content mill among many.
He’s AI
Yeah, he's talking about the downfall of the show, but he's sort of like the show... he's lacking substance. 😅
I would agree-there doesn’t seem to be any real discussion of the purported downfall of this television series.
It was a metaphor for what watching AHS is like.
Apocalypse was a complete trainwreck. I was hopeful at first, but then the whole cast was killed off only to bring back the same actors for previous characters. Some even had 3 parts. It was so hard to stay interested.
Worst season
Stfu stop yapping apocalypse was the best
@@JM-mr6pz Maybe Apocalypse and Roanoke was the worst season from Ahs
Man, I remember watching it when it came out and being so confused, confounded, befuddled and vexed. What the hell were they doing?? Did they even know?? 😭😭
@@alim.9801 they fck up the show
Haven't watched any of the seasons since 1984, which I think was one of their better seasons. The ending to 1984 was probably the closest to a happy ending we could get and it felt like the end of AHS to me honestly
We don't need happy ending's
What went wrong? The fact that the scripts put 100 different subplots together in the same storyline making a narrative mess. The fact that for a horror show, the series has no suspense, dread and no actual scares, it just throws scenes at you and when it doesn't know what to do, it slashes someone's throat out of nowhere. And it doesn't help that a lot of times characters who die come back as ghosts and keep appearing and being developed in the plot. (Seriously, some of the dead folks have more character depth than the living) and deaths have no stake at all in the show. The ones who are not brought back, keep going as ghosts, ghosts who smoke, drink, have sex and etc. Being dead in AHS is not the worse, but the best thing that could happen to a character, honestly. Where's the horror in that?
@jhowneedj5518. This was my exact problem with Coven.. which seems to be everyone’s favorite. Death meant absolutely NOTHING.. every episode a character would die and I couldn’t care less because I knew someone (first, just Misty, then.. all of them!) would bring them back.
Lost any/all suspense.
Then Apocalypse came around and even the very small handful that died were brought back! 🤣
Roanoke was my last season. I liked most of it… until the last 2-3 episodes. 😏
Used to be such a good show
it really did
I used to love this show.
It used to be sooooo good
Some
AHS:1984 should've been the final season IMHO. Leave on a high note.
So true
Exactly. It was the last good season
A lot of people blame Lange as the downfall, I don't think that... it was Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson opting out that really set the show on a downward spiral, they kept the show going strong for several years after Lange left
I’m just here to remind everyone that they did Moira dirty.. in Murder House, it was revealed she couldn’t move on and be with her mother, even though she was an innocent victim. In Apocalypse, they went back to Murder House and freed her soul… only to undo all of that with time travel, erasing what had happened earlier.
Justice for Moira 😭
The show suffers from the same issues that Dr. Who has suffered with increasingly erratic storylines, and heavy handed political messaging. There's just no cohesion to the story anymore, it takes wild turns for reasons that don't make sense, even when there is another clear path to follow. Like the ending in Ride Tide is a prime example. I really liked the direction which the story was going but then it took a sudden shift into politics, and an overall failure to wrap up the story it had first set out to tell. They need different writers who are focused on telling a scary story and not trying to tell a heavy handed social commentary with some horror thrown in.
Was that Kim K in the last season?! Wow just from that clip I can tell she was an awful actor. Lady Gaga wasn’t an actor but the difference is that L.G. is a creative and an entertainer whereas Kim is an opportunist and has a background in nothing except being born into lots of $.
Lady Gaga went to Juliard and studied acting
@@juliannehannes11 well that explains a lot then.
Lady gaga is worse than kim the hotel was awful!
@@juliannehannes11 then why can’t she act 🤔
This show works a lot better now when you can binge. The half seasons and delays in premiere episodes (often without a recap before episodes) was BRUTAL
The only season I legitimately felt scared was Asylum. Watching Sarah Paulson's character lose her autonomy in so many ways was scary. The redemption Jessica Langs character felt genuine and I felt like the show actually had something to say about mental illness in the US.
The biggest problem with just about all seasons is that they start off on an interesting premise, lose focus then rush the last 2 episodes tying up plots and characters. Theres some sort of lack of planning with the writing and plotting like half the show is written and then shooting begins.
Roanoke still amazes me I think it worked so well and terrified me for sure
People sleep on Asylum
It’s my fave 😎
I think that was the one that won the most awards.
It's the most horrifying of all of them. And the best one.
@@rhinobridge facts
Best season. But ppl sleep on Delicate idc. It was so good
To many subplots in one story destroys everything and confuses the hell out me because i have deep tunnel vision
Aside from the 1st season, every other felt like they were literally writing it week to week with no idea where they wanted the story to actually go.
when you started talking about all the other seasons, it made me realize i clocked out at freak show lol
i only clocked back in for Apocalypse just bc i loved all the past characters
Freak Show was the first series to really fail because they had a fantastic protagonist character in the John Wayne Gacy-inspired Twisty, who was truly maniacal and terrifying. But the story arc hinged around mystery; not knowing the back story and how he'd ended up where he was, and then suddenly in episode 4 they gave you everything and that was the end of the character who was really driving the series. He didn't appear again, that was it! Because they'd played their wild card, the series then for the remainder just meandered through these relationship psychodramas of the other characters with nothing really propelling it. After that the following series were very up and down. Roanoake was terrible as was Delicate. No wonder they've decided to move on after the last one.
I checked out in season 5. Came back for 1984
Same here. Lost most interest during Hotel, watched Roanoke but barely had interest in it, watched one episode of Cult and checked out after that. Then Apocalypse came and barely drew me in and gave up on the show. When 1984 came out, I was skeptical but it turned out to be one of my favorite seasons and actually the last season I watched. The ending to 1984, looking back on it now, was probably the closest thing to a happy ending and felt like the end of AHS to me
@@zacharylee7994my departure was exactly the same. I quit Cult after one episode and Apocalypse after two episodes. I may check out 1984
The Kardashians ruined it like they ruin everything. Worst decision ever
Putting a Kardashian in ended it for me
Same. It's a shame nerdstalgic didn't do an IN-DEPTH analysis of the downfall of the series, which would certainly have to do with the casting.
@@heathernks8 I 💯
I personally thought 1984 was a good, fun season and the best one in years.
Facts and it's the only season where the twist didn't make the season worst.
I think Cult is funny and entretaining too
It started when they added Gaga and the series started to get the vibe of a music video with image being more important than story. Lange I could watch in every episode for eternity.
Problem with AHS was it went from a thinking show to essentially Criminal Minds: what shock factor can we throw at the audience this week?
Lmao dont insult CM like that. They were STILL better than AHS most of the time 😂
@NeeNee_B. don't get me wrong I like both shows. But there's gore because the storyline calls for it then there's gore just for the sake of it.
I unfortunately first attempted American Horror Story around the time I was watching Hannibal, and in terms of artistry and restraint, the contrast was too strong for me to stick with it.
This video taught me that there were 12 seasons.
Roanoke WAS terrifying. It's the ONLY season that actually scared me.
care to explain what elements caused you to come to that conclusion
@@katrinamack444when the ghosts especially the butcher came back
@@katrinamack444 When the pig man jumped up from the back of the car, I actually jumped and screeched. It was a highly effective jump scare. Almost everything in the to or three episodes after they switched back to Season 2 of the show and mixed "the cast" with "the actors" was genuinely scary. The only part that fell flat for me were all the scenes with the rednecks; those were really lame and cheesy. But most of the rest of it worked spectacularly. By far the best season of that show. I watched all of Season 1 despite disliking it and Season 6 is the only other season I've watched every episode of because the rest were also horrible. In fact, most of them looked so bad that I didn't bother watching a single episode at all.
@@katrinamack444 The pig man jumping out from the back of the car actually made me jump and screech out loud. It was a highly effective jump scare. Everything they did in that season following the switch to season 2 with the "cast" mixing with the "actors" was actually chilling and frightening. All the acting, the make up, everything was highly effective. They did a great job. By far the greatest season of this show, hands down. Most of the other seasons are so lame I didn't make it through all the episodes or skipped all together.
Agree but it was a very predictable story
I could enjoy most of the seasons. Roanoke got me into it. They were enjoyable. But the outright insane and poor writing of the antichrist season just put me off for life. It was insulting
Coven was my favorite. Perfect mix of camp and compelling
Asylum was THE BEST season!
Thank you for pointing out the problem about how they barely give a person to root for, most characters are terrible and of course everyone ends up dying, knowing that makes the show quite boring after a while
Roanoke is the best season, truly the most fun and weird
Ryan can make a hit show...he can't sustain it.
I went from seriously loving this show to not being able to stand it
Loved season 1, tried season 2 and a bit of 3. Never stuck with it past that.
Same
You should definitely try 1984. The subplots are limited and the overarching story is a much better watch. The aesthetics and all are also very beautiful!
Thank you for putting the ad at the end
Nothing went wrong each and every season was and is fantastic, I'm looking forward to the new one
I think the number one thing that drives me crazy are the dropped storylines. In this latest season they never explained the spiderweb coming from Emma's hair, or Queen Elizabeth 1.
Their intro sequences are way scarier than the shows themselves. The music, the tone, and the truly unsettling imagery tricked me so many times into tuning in and hoping the show content would live up to it. It never happened after Asylum.
Asylum and Freak Show were my all time faves.
The irony: I was there for a different reason. Because I love Coven. It’s my favorite season tbh. Season 2 is one of my least.
All of Ryan Murphy's shows start out strong and then go off the rails.
In my honest opinion, apocalypse should have been the end of the series, that season just felt like the final season to me
Ryan Murphy started writing the show using the wrong head.
the only REAL horror in the show any more is watching a Kartrashian try to act in a show
I’m so happy that you covered this ! I was waiting 👏🏾
we aim to please!
@@Nerdstalgic 💚🙌🏾🙌🏾
Personally, I enjoyed Double Feature. I thought it had really good themes. The issue was the condensing of the two stories. Both seemed like they could have had a lot of steam left. And just abruptly ended.
“… the narrative meandered“ - the reason why I couldn’t get half way through any season before losing patience and just giving up.
“Don’t gaslight the gaslighter, babe”
I cringed hard by that line and its delivery. 😬
Me who noped out of the first few episodes: "Oh no, who could have seen this coming............. Me, I did."
I think part of the downfall was Ryan Murphy’s love for campiness. Glee and Scream Queens are examples of just how good he is with camp and it works for those shows but for AHS, you can’t do horror and want people to take it seriously and tie camp to it.
Why does everyone forgot ryan Murphy made the very underrated nip tuck??? Very very very dark the carver comes to mind
"you get the shovel, I'll get the bleach"
Coven is the best season ever
Entropy is the reason for every failure/ death. Gotta have a beginning and a end, can’t just think it’ll go on forever, it leads to chaos.
Season 1: Great
Season 2: LITERAL PERFECTION
Every Season, since the first few seasons, always starts out so promising. The concepts are always there and very spooky. The first few episodes always get me hooked into what is happening. Then by about episode 4 it gets less entertaining, and I stop watching. I don't think I have finished a season for the last 5 seasons... It's like Ryan Murphy doesn't know how to create a good, satisfying, or at least interesting ending for these shows.
The storyboard of AHS went from being gothic/ scary to the feeling of camp to the appeal to the queer viewers.
I thought season 1 was alright, LOVED season 2 (but the ending was way too rushed), and hated seasons 3-5. I couldn't even finish those seasons because the story was terrible, I couldn't get invested in any of the characters, and constantly made frustrating non-sensical decisions. I gave up on the show after that. It was an edgy series from the getgo, but quickly became style + shock value over substance after season 2.
Can't agree. The first season was unique and fun, but messy in it's approach. The side plots that go nowhere were on full display. Asylum, Freakshow, Coven, Cult, and 1984 were all good enough. All have B level writing (sometimes B+), so it really just comes down to what kind of horror aesthetic you prefer. I don't think it's accurate at all to say that the first season is somehow unique or better than any of the others.
I actually hated "Murder House", but "Delicate" was absurd.
Perfect topic. Some of my favorite (and least fave) tv of all time.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the first 4 seasons. They each are great in their own unique way. I don't see how every season should look exactely like the first one. it's an anthology. They should have different pace and tone. Season 5 for me is the worst, mostly because it's boring at most times. Season 6 was messy but so much fun. I loved cult, it's one of my favorites. I think that there should have been at least one season revolving around the horrors of real life and that was it. 1984 was fantastic especially for slasher fans. Double feature started good but lost its way mid season. Death valley was absolutely the worst thing i had ever watched so far. Atrocious acting and storyline. I didn't really care much for NYC probably because i was so disapointed at the previous season. Lastly, delicate had a compelling premise and I was immediately invested. However, it kept going nowhere and every episode felt like the same. The season finale was abolutely atrocious and made no sense whatsoever. It made it look like the whole season was a waste. Besides, its length is ridiculous. They rushed things to fit the time and the result is simply awful. It probably had something to do with the strike, I don't know. What i do know is that they have potential to do something great again just like its first 4 years.
I legit went in the first season thinking it was gonna be an intense horror type of show, but it ended up being some kind of melodrama with horror themes.
For me the ending was freak show. It’s felt empty and shock value.
I actually took a break after the first episode for very obvious reasons.
And when I finally did give it a second chance I wasn’t even invested in the story due to lack of character and charm.
All three seasons before had the same morbid twists but it was haunting in a way you needed to know the reasons for the debauchery which the show delivered on.
After coven, it never gave us a reason for the horror and evil.
It was just- gore without the gore.
Death Vally should have been a full season. Its terrifying...
Not sure how you didn’t mention the atrocious writing….this show has the worst writers on tv….by far. This show is literally more of a comedy (cause of the writing) than a horror or drama show.
It's like they can START a good story but it loses its way and goes off the rails
yep couldnt agree more. They have the potential at the beginning but then fail when they try to make sense of all their random subplots that nobody cares about.
Murder House being the first didnt suffer from the shared universe plot, characters returning, the trope of the place that you are stuck in if you die… it was all new , fresh and unpredictable. After that it lost its intrigue for shine and shock value. Jessica Lily Connie and Sarah really carried this show along with Evan.
It’s the fact that they had the audacity to split a simple season with no significance to the overarching story of the entire series into 2 parts. Splitting a season into 2 parts should only be reserved for something of significance.
The X-Men style witches of Season 3 lost me.
I was obsessed with 84 but after that it was downhill
I was just talking to someone about this because they mentioned how they never watch AHS. I think it started off strong and then after some seasons ehh lol
They really dropped the ball. If they would've kept a formula that was similar to the first three seasons, it would still be something a lot of us would be looking forward to around this time of the year. Just classic horror type themes.
I love all 12 seasons of American Horror Story.
I couldn’t finish Freak Show
I had no idea there were this many seasons. I checked out after Coven. I knew about the Lady Gaga one, but I've never heard of most of these seasons
Coven was the last really good one
Season 2 was the absolute best, human insanity felt much more sinister than supernatural horror in that season. And season 6 was a refresher by their reality tv meta plot, felt new and unexpected.