Part 2: Austin Allegro V6 supercharged sleeper project
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Part 2 of Jonny's Vlog converting the most hated British car (1970s British Austin Allegro) and making it perform, handle and stop like a hot-ish hatchback. The 1977 Allegro's drivetrain has been taken from a 1993 Rover 827 Si donor car, which has a Honda-derived 2.7-litre 24v V6 and a manual 5-speed gearbox.
In this episode the team at Midland Performance & Retro transform the fetching Antiques Gold original paintwork using nothing but Farecla cutting/polishing products and Mirka abrasive pads. The interior is stripped out to reveal what is a pleasantly solid, unmolested Agro bodyshell.
British companies Forge Motorsport step in to support the cooling side of the project, while another British engineering outfit - Wortec - supply the highest spec braking system for a car on 15-inch wheels. Talking of 15s, the diameter has increased in order to cope with the enlarged brakes, and as such Jonny thinks he's found the perfect stealth steel wheel.
This project is brought to you with support from:
Midland Performance & Retro in Shropshire www.midlandperformance.co.uk/
Forge Motorsport www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/
Farecla products www.farecla.com/
Mirka abrasives www.mirka.com/uk/uk/
Wortec performance brakes www.wortec.co.uk/
Specialist Controls Systems ECUs www.scs-delta.co.uk/
If you are a brand interested in partnering with this Allegro sleeper project to showcase parts or services, please contact Jonny via www.carpervert.com
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:04 Carpark outside MPR
2:13 Original paint pre-polish
2:46 Explaining the polish processes
4:46 BEFORE and AFTER polishing
7:30 Feeling the paint difference!
7:44 Removing front seats
7:58 Mouse nest alert
8:30 Sill Mouse. Mouse in sill.
9:01 Solid floors?
9:55 Carpet removal
11:05 Sill mouse removal
11:32 Window removal
12:50 Machine polish continues
13:15 Forge Motorsport cooling chat
14:40 Repurpose front valance grilles?
15:32 Charge cooler
17:48 Radiator in the boot?
19:05 Types of radiator core
19:50 Trial fit in boot
20:05 Types of radiator core... again
21:15 Boot rust & rad position
23:50 Machine polishing finished
24:27 On the ramps
24:46 Existing brakes and GAZ coilovers
25:25 Sleeper steel wheel
26:15 Wortec brake kit
27:06 15-inch sleeper wheel
29:00 Any rust underneath?
30:19 Chassis plans
33:25 Subscribe and social media handles
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you gotta put that mouse on the bonnet like a jag lol
Lol
Or have it hanging off the rear view mirror? That way it's less likely to be stolen.
@chris neppiras ....... you will not hear a squeak out of them. 🐭
At least put a Danger Mouse sticker in the window👍🤣
Iv got a few wan*er Rats that need doing in, seriously,
Big bas*ards, we've got people coming trying to pretend it's OK lads, it's not OK some rats these days are humongous.
Easily potentially dash board material, even there ball bag would easily make a leather gaiter on the shift.
I guess it would be like pounding a rodent in the scrotum with each snap shift through the box.
God damb it Jonny take us back
I'm so glad you're keeping steel wheels and hub caps. I can't tell you how disappointed I get when I see "Hur hur, look at my sleeper Beetle" and it's dropped an inch from the ground with polished alloys on it. Sleepers ought to be invisible until you press the loud pedal.
this. too many "sleeper" cars are obviously heavily modded. OEM+ is fine IMO but to be true to type it's gotta look standard i reckon
That poor 🐁 but for the sake of that car, it was the better option. I think you should buy a small Plastic Mouse and put it on the back parcel shelf in remembrance 👍
Or maybe a mouse on the bonnet, just like the Silver Spirt 🤔
Have the mouse stuffed and mounted on the dash.
C M B ooooh yesehhh
I can’t wait for a Smith & Sniff episode on this, with Richard driving.
Suprising you didn't go for electric options. Would have turned heads that's for sure
@@waynethefridgemanosborne8984 Not for this project. Got another idea for that.
My dad drove an orange Austin Allegro in the 80s and early 90s. We used to duck down to avoid being seen in it.
I feel your pain. Imagine being a 12 yr old kid in the back of a green Skoda Estelle in 1989....
My dad had a blue 1.5 all-ag-gro in the early 90s.
It was also couple of yrs after passing my test so I drove around in it. My mate always did the same - hide🙈
Drove ok but one of the rear hydrolastic units had a fault.
Every time one went over a bump it would crab sideways😬.
My girlfriend’s mum had a blue Allegro 3 and I did the same.
@@frazzleface753 I had a couple of Estelles in my time as well as the Allegro { I'm a glutton for punishment), I'd take the Estelle....... Jasper Carrott had it right, but I don't think he was familiar with the Allegro.
@@stephentaylforth4731 As much as I hated the Estelle because of the teasing at school during the height of the Skoda joke era, these days I really respect the little car. It rarely let my Dad down.
Like a freshly overturned cow pat....lovely!
That's incredible imagery there! Thanks for that! 🤢
Juicy 👍
You've matched the Pantone number exactly!
You've heard of peat moss. This is sheeit moss.
The moment I heard Shropshire I was reminded of the lads from Bad Obsession Motorsport. Then I realised that this is also a British Leyland car getting fitted with a japanese engine with forced induction. After that you started talking about moving the fuel tank and fabricating custom heat exchangers, you showed off the custom strut towers and the modified steel wheels and I couldn't help but notice the similarities.
I hope there's a chance of a video showcase/collaboration if you're still active on UA-cam by the time Project Binky is finally done (bit of a tongue in cheek reference).
This!
Ha, I just referenced them too. Only just noticed your comment. I think, and I hope, this one might take a little less time as there MAY be less brackets to manufacture!
Brackets !!!
@@colinscutt5104 Get the funk out !!
@@julianchisnall6355 Oh, come now! I could listen to Richard's funk any day! I wish they would share there music list and source also!
Love these sleeper builds. Keeping it stock as possible while adding as much power as possible.
Mouse death extraction!!! Sounds like a '90s metal band!! 🤣🤣🤣
A Swedish '90s metal band.
First single ‘too thick for the hole’
@Tone. what about charge cooler?
The next video can't come soon enough. Being from New Jersey USA 🇺🇸, I'm not familiar with this car, but genuinely excited to see the final product. Rock on Jonny
I winced when you began to lift the carpet... and then behold ! original paint and no holes ! shocked !
British Leyland must have been having an unusually good day when they built this particular car.
I love the styling of the Allegro. The Estate is even more appealing.
They are cool as fk
Jonny, I love you for doing this.
I'm SO impressed by the state of that car. It's really decent, and now starting to become really decent looking too. I'm looking forward to more :)
These guys are just down the road from me, I used to work in a garage & I've never seen ANY British Leyland car in such good condition & would never have believed it had I not seen it for myself!
When I was a kid, best mate family car was an allegro sport , and was alway bragging about how fast it was , although back then (47 years ago ) you could count the amount of families that had cars on one hand in our entire school year . Nice one Johnny, I like this one 👌
I grew up in the 1970's and I absolutely hate the Austin Allegro. I hate the colour. I hate the interior. I hate the shape, but I love the fact that someones prepared to make it into a V6 sleeper.Carry on the good work Jonny.
I don't think "hate" is a strong enough word. Execrate is an excellent synonym, and far more fitting.
My 2nd car was a '73 or '74 in this colour, it only had 16k miles and was like having a new car. I loved it. Sorry.
I was born in '74, and have more then a couple of '70's cars including three 1300's(one is a GT), an 1100, A Morris Mini Clubman, a Vauxhall Viva two-door, a Vauxhall Chevette two-door, and a '62 Vauxhall Velox PASX. Yes, I am a sick boy, but I feel connected to the cars of the era in which I was born.....
Dodgy Davo- Glad we all have our own tastes and the Allegro was a far better shape than the Mk2 Escort that was shaped like a brick and was as agricultural as a tractor with its ancient leaf springs etc. Yes the colours and those wheel trims let the looks of the Allegros down but with far better colours and alloy wheel such as the 1980 1750 TC Equipe I owned it was a very nice looking car - so much so I always came back to my parked car with people looking at it and in it and you didn't get that with any other ordinary car back then. The Mk3 Allegro was a nice looking car as well with better colours and even the plastic wheel trims really lifted the looks of the cars. Wheels really make a big difference to any car.
I absolutely hate the Austin Allegro. I hate the colour, the interior and the shape too. And I still wouldn't be seen dead in one, sleeper or not.
Really cool to hear Forge talking about different options and what they could do.
The bodywork has kept well. A lot better than some cars of that age. Its better than any ford of that year. Great stuff👍
That is in incredible condition. I can only imagine that its never seen a salted road. Well done for saving it!
Nice one fella. I’m absolutely loving the idea of this. I have a soft spot of Allegros myself. Love the videos. Probably the best thing on UA-cam to be honest. Keep us posted with it.
Johnny I absolutely can not wait to see the end result of the allegro project, hope it all goes really well for you 🙂
I learned to drive in one of these and still have a soft spot for them. I loved the quartic steering wheel, especially for driving on winding roads.
I still have a set of the original brochures from the days I collected car brochures - I couldn't bring myself to throw them away.
Really looking forward to following progress on the rebuild.
Awesome Johnny. Please don’t apologise for ‘carving up an allegro’ it’s your car, your money and everyone that complains isn’t saving originals from the scrapper.
That paint transformation is unreal 😃
Jonny, my childhood memories were the 2 Allegros that my Dad owned. Dark blue 3 door Estate and a 4 door, in sky blue.
The Estate the wheel fell off while he was driving to work, and the sky blue always broke down. He worked for Unipart, so always loved BL cars, the Estate I kind of have a yearning for, its design is now in 2020, really good looking. Good luck with it, can't wait to see it mate
my first car a 1972 Harvest Gold mini had flat paint when I got in the early 80's... a of can of brasso (metal polish for brass) and a bag of rags brought the shine back...then good old turlte wax to seal it :D .... no machines just elbow grease :D ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,amazing how good the floors are
Love your idea. Spoke to my old boss the other day, he worked in the graphic design industry until a couple of years ago and he always thought the Morris Marina Coupé was a very stylish car(!), the best thing he also liked the Allegro. Viva La Allegro! Still miss the Green Bogey ('75 1.3 Super).
A car with a terrible reputation in a vile colour and yet somehow I love it. It has defied the odds so far. I look forward to the next stage. Great video 👍🏻
They never had a terrible reputation back then - it was only when the crap Top Gear started slagging them off and Marinas that the dumb masses as usual started to spout the same drivel. Plenty of people like me with Allegros back then drove them quite happily and RELIABLY - mine was a 1980 Allegro 1750 LE Equipe that always drew people looking into and at it all the time when it was parked and not many people can say that with an ordinary car like that. Up till then it was the colours and those wheel hubs that let the looks of the Allegro down. The Mk3's were far better in the looks department with the Equipe being the best looking with its alloy wheels.
It looks like an absolutely fantastic car for its age, really great! Have fun rebuilding it!
🐁Love you supporting local shops & characters 😍That car has a great shape. The paint is in amazing condition!
This little Allegro deserves all the love you're giving to it. Love the engine choice and sleeper mods.
This is just the best project I’ve seen in years... can’t wait to see it progress!!!!
I have visions of those brakes stopping the chassis dead, and the body carrying on.....
I had a Chrysler Sunbeam that did that...
herme99 lol
JezVibert ummmmm oh god.
Not to mention the front n/s axle and strut giving way - all too common across the then BL range.
Except it's a monocoque, but yes they were made of tin foil sadly
I have à real soft spot for Allegro's, had one as a 17yr old, unbelievable how much stick I gave that car and it took it all chin bless it! Can't wait too see yours finished. 😁😁👍
Absolutely love this. Makes me really miss my 1980 Allegro. The floorplan on this is in better condition than my 1980 model was in 1990! Love those brakes and new steel wheels, and as for the paintwork... More on this car asap please 👍.
Looking forward to the up and coming episodes with this car in it 😁👍
Rip sill mouse
The car has a name!
He was a respectful mouse. He won't be sorely missed...
F
RIP.... 😔
I would have possibly embalmed the mouse and give her a cemetary-like display on the final dashboard.
I'm a child of the 70s and I've always liked the looks of the Allegro, a mate of mine had one at college and I was always telling him that he needed to lower it and drop in a tuned A-series. He later owned a Princess that he bought at auction for under £200 with a years ticket and TAX.
That shell is in insanely good nick, what a result. It'll save countless hours of repair work. And the paint has polished up brilliantly.
This All-Aggro is going to be amazing, I can't wait for the next installment.
Cheers Scott. Hope it will continue to impress as we get the mechanical elements sorted.
Love this . BL paintwork is amazing and a shock to the image they had. Walked past them in my youth now I want one
As an EV convert myself I still love classic cars and love what you are doing with the Allegro. I’m excited about this project. This channel deserves at least a million subscribers.
Cheers v much Eric!
I've got no idea why anyone would want a shed of a car like this to live on but.....somehow its just fascinating and i have got to keep on watching 👍
I am quite happy you found one that is this good.. altrough there might be haters, it is YOUR car and I really love the sleeper idea..
That said, altrough it is modded, it IS another Allegro that will be on the road.. you do you and personally I love this project!
Wow, she was clearly NOT a friday afternoon special! I've seen more rot on 5 year old cars! admittedly they were fords though!
Can't wait to see the next update, this is exactly the sort of project I love, An under-loved car respectfully modified.
Leon Kiddell all the best cars rot out! At least that’s what I tell myself 🙄
@@martycrush6412 Right then, I've got the world's best land-rover to sell you then! it's chock full of crumbly greatness!
Leon Kiddell I’d like to but having 4 cars ( two crusty) and a work van, not to mention 3 kids is enough entertainment at the moment! My plan is to put my mk3 2.0 16v engine into my mk3 polo. Both are pretty rotten, but polo is worth saving golf has a sweet motor 🤷♂️
Cheers Jonny, never thought I'd be giving an Allegro a like, top work. :)
That Austin ambassador looked in great condition,low mileage too a real time capsule
Some difference in the paintwork. Got to love Farecla stuff 👍. I remember my old primary school teacher had one of these, takes me back!!
I was in the back seat of an Allegro when it overheated and broke down in the lion enclosure at Whipsnade. My 5yr old brother then pancaked himself. I still like Allegros though.
Woburn Wildlife Safari park perhaps ? I don't recall being able to drive through the lions at Whipsnade .
It definitely began with a ‘W’. The gearbox whine in an Allegro can cause amnesia.
I thought you were going to say you were conceived in the back seat of an Allegro.
BL did provide quite a slanted rake angle for the Allegro rear seats for that reason, but the hungry lion would have been a slight distraction unfortunately.
Funniest thing I've read on a UA-cam video comments thread all year. "Pancaked himself"!
This car was first registered on the day I was born. It's probably holding up better than me :-)
Love this project, the story, and each step you're going through. All the things to think about... Never apologise for doing what you want, with your car. That may not apply to everyone but you are under no obligation to fit in with someone else's opinions. There's no rules on these things, just build it and enjoy it! Thanks so much for all your productions!
MPR have really increased their profile! They are awesome. That Allegro is going to be excellent, love the sound of your plans for it
I'm surprisingly excited about this... Which I honestly never thought I'd say about an Allegro lol
Hit the like before watching on principle, wasn’t disappointed. Really looking forward to seeing this progress Jonny - need to pull my finger out and get my little Clio 182 back on the road after a 2 year hiatus.
Please do and post it, sounds cool
I cant believe your doing this to an Allegro. You're a mad bastard and I love it !!!
Loving the quality of the paint. Looks outstanding
Gosh jonny
The note about your foot mats sadly perishing in situe brought back some terrible memories of the mesh type inner liner of my gym shorts simply degrading, luckily this wasn't as severe as I'd first anticipated and the functionality of said shorts remains to this day technically as efficient as ever even without for mentioned inner linner fully present. Food for thought I'm sure especially for those with elderly relatives perhaps visiting.
We got caught speeding in and orange one of these with a vinyl roof back in school.. my pal had one, it was old even back then.. must have been 93
Well!!! That is exciting, really coming on now, I love the whole sleeper concept and the Allegro has got to be the ultimate choice. There are some very clever chaps out there who are very skilled and who are able to showcase their skills on such a unique project. Love to see a proper workshop as well. Keep us posted Jonny, very much looking forward to the next episode in the Sleeper Story.
That was AWESOME ! Loving the details you include, makes you feel more involved with the project . With the underside redone in body colour, and the rad mods, that will be one sorted sleeper 😀
Omg....I’ve always liked Allegros...but have kept it a shameful secret!. Used to admire a silver one with orange type stripes in early 80s...think it was an Equipe Special??. Richard
I wonder if there are any Equipes left?
The Wimbledon green with Wimbledon green leather was a smart little car in 1975 🙃
I have always liked Allegros as we had two in the family at the same time - my brothers then mothers 1978 Allegro 1500 LE and my 1980 Allegro 1750 TC Equipe and both were excellent and very reliable cars. We always looked after and serviced our own cars unlike most people back then who didnt look after their cars or they did and the garages ripped them off by saying their cars needed things done to them that they didn't or didnt do what they said they had done and then the cars would get the blame when they broke down or things went wrong - still lots of this going on today with cheap owners and dodgy garages etc. That Equipe was an excellent car and I would still have it today if it wasnt written off in an accident. There are still between 6 and 10 Equipes surviving that are known about some in need of restoration and I would gladly love to own one of the mint ones.
@@faustusTVR yes seen one last year in Blackpool....mint condition....great to see...
@@faustusTVR
I hope so! I loved that quad light grill!
Maybe have the boot open at the hinge side for cooling like they do on the vw beetle, that way it's reversable if ever you needed to. 🇬🇧🇬🇧. DONNIE MURDO would be a cool name. Aka danger mouse👍
I hadn’t read the description before but I said to myself that the engine looked like a mid nineties Honda V6 we got here lol. I’m legitimately interested in seeing this come to fruition. I love quirky builds
Thanks Chris, do you know much about these Honda engines? I know they sold many more in the US than anywhere else. I'm keen to see if there are any US aftermarket parts for them.
Hi I found your channel by accident, and first watch was the rescue of an Allegro from a garage.
That's what got me hooked, been waiting for a British based show like this, fantastic concept and will follow your channel with interest. Hats off to you with this sleeper project absolutely brilliant.
9:15, I actually gasped at how good the floor still was.
Same!!
So apparently you CAN polish a turd 🤣
My early memories of these form the early eighties was a family friend having a black one with a fancy grille and red pleather interior. I genuinely thought the rear seat armrest was a seat for kids so I could see out the front
This is my favourite build at the moment! Good choice on the 15” wheels!
Oh my god I've waited so long for this part two, and it didn't disappoint! Got some great ideas for it and a shed load of work to carry out. Can't wait fir the next installment, keep up the great content Jonny!
Brilliant ideas between you all!
dont be a numb nuts just paint the hole car what is wrong with you ?
Everyone has fresh hair cuts 'cos they're gonna be on telly 🤣
I am very fascinated about Forge Motorsport. The quality of their products look superior. Myself personally can't afford the toys I'd buy from them. But sure as hell I'm saving towards them.
Looking good m8 ime a ford man through n through but I’ve allways loved the allegro love em please keep it up can’t believe how good the cills are I’ve welded them up in the late 80s in worse condition than that m8 also I think we share a friendship with a certain lad from Leicester ( Kenny) lol he was my appearance for 6 mths in my old garage as we both know he’s no mechanic like I say keep it up love the idea of the rover engine in it they’re ace engines I had a 2.7 Sterling for 6 mths never missed a beat I believe they’re a Honda designed unit 👍👍
Finally an update on the Allegro!
I’ve been waiting for this ! Good man
Fascinated to see how this works out. Thanks for sticking with this idea Jonny.
Sir. I am really so glad i found your channel, because your videos are brilliant. So professional & down to earth, with no stupid £100,000 + cars being test drove, but nice easy to watch videos about cars that we can all relate too.
Must have been a good day at BL when that one was built.
Allegros were actually very well rustproofed for the time - one of the first ordinary cars to be waked injected into the cavities etc and like most cars from back then if you didnt clean out under the wheel arches etc then deal with any rust that may be starting then they would end up with rust spreading all over the place. I used to do that with my Marina, Allegro Equipe and Mini etc back then and that is why mine weer always in excellent condition while most peoples cars back then were rotting away.
This is the daftest project on the UA-cams, I absolutely love it. Can we make it 4WD please?
No, that's Binky....
I was so creeped out by that mouse just in frame the whole time! Very grateful that you finally removed the poor bugger!
A BL car in this condition for that age is just wow. The sills so much so. Time to catch up on the rest of the build! Nice work on the video and chapters
It’s your car, you bought it.
Do what you want with it.
At last. This is the one I’ve been waiting for
You need not make any excuse or justification for the mods you’re planning. Simple reason, it’s your car. Thank you for sharing the journey.
That paint is a weird yet likeable colour. It’s come up a treat. I hooked on this project. Your importing the American cars was the last time I spoke with you via comments. I found that amazingly helpful. It’s saved all by itself in a category. I’ve subscribed as I’m intrigued.
300mm discs under 15" rims is some going, just need to be careful with offset etc as that will be tight. Looks like it lived a sheltered enough life & was taken out of circulation before any really nasty grot got hold of it. With the rear mount rad you need to think carefully about the air extraction path as you are going to be reliant on not having a pocket of turbulent air right behind the car which would kill any flow through the rad, fans wouldn't really help much. Admittedly it would only be a problem at higher speeds but it warrants consideration. Those sleeved driveshafts may need looking at too as they tend to fail eventually through fatigue. Really like the project, very oddball choice of engine for many reasons but I get the Rover link (a 3.0 Ford Duratec V6 from an ST220 is a 60 deg Vee & therefore more compact plus more powerful & comes with a 6 speed box and is a lot more modern, chain driven etc but I get that it is not what you want to go for). Also reckon that a nice little single turbo setup would be better than the supercharger but again I understand that you want the immediate response from a PD blower....it is addictive! What are you planning on doing for rear suspension as you've lost the Hydralastic from the front? Is it a coil over conversion (I assume it is a trailing arm setup like a classic Mini?)
I had 310mm discs and brembo 4pots under some compomotive 15" 6J MO5s on my 306 track car. Pretty tight but it worked.
The paint colour is called “infected mucous”.
“Expectorated Marlboro”
Accurate.
Truly a car only a CarPervert could love. I'm glad you've decided to make it more than it ever was. May it bring you much joy.
All Aggro's are fun. I re-mounted the exhaust five times in an afternoon while supporting someone that was teaching a lady how to use the clutch. Beer was obviously involved.
Amazing how solid the body of this Allegro is. Are you planning on any anti sway or roll bars? I remember my dad not being able to close the doors when the car was on a ramp. He had a Mk 3 I recall.
Where did you find that?!?! It must have been a Wednesday afternoon build in summer when the bosses were handing out free beer to find it in that condition!
Very Excited to see it finished. Very much looking forward to seeing the looks it gets , when it overtakes other cars on track days. Keep up good work.
Great video Jonny..really enjoyed that, looking forward to the next one:)
This is turning into one interesting project. Poor mouse
Love the Allegro allways have done . Love what you are doing with this one , BUT . Please find a standard one in great nick and show youtube land how good they are .
Brilliant. From an Allegro fan I don't think you're disrespecting the car or the followers, I'm enjoying restoring mine to standard on a budget but there's room for everything, and considering the "hate" for Allegro, this like the other videos you've done on this marque certainly do great views. I approve. Can't wait for more, plus get Tim to get his finger out on the white SS. Cheers Jonny.
It is only the dumb thickos that believe the crap from the JOURNALISTS from Top Gear that "hate" Allegros - and Marinas - and the people like myself that owned these cars and looked after and serviced them myself knew that they were excellent reliable cars. We had two in the family at the same time - my brothers then mothers 1978 Allegro 1500 LE and my 1980 Allegro 1750 TC Equipe and they were both excellent and very reliable cars and the Equipe was a very quick car in its day. Too many people back then didn't look after their cars or used cheap parts in them when they did or the garages did or the garages etc claimed they did work on the cars that they didn't do or that the car needed work done that it didn't and then the car/manufacturer would get the blame hence why I and many other people worked on our own cars.
"Most hated British car" - was my first actual car that was mine and I loved it. In the time I had it, it was mechanically reliable from 2 week holiday camping trip driving around the south island of New Zealand... to taking me to and from University as a daily driver and also to work and back early in my career. I hope I'm not the only person that actually has fond memories of the Allegro!
My first car too. It was fine, certainly not deserving of the title "most hated British car".
I want to chime in on the choice of the rust protection: Bedliner material is not the best choice. Its prone to micro-abrasions (from stone chipping at it), which then allow water & salt to seep in under the bedliner material and rust the metal underneath it, all while keeping the appearance of a pristine surface. If I may suggest, use Cosmoline (yes, it does come in black) or Woolwax (Fluid Film), or what I did, both (Cosmoline first, than Fluid Film). No, Im not endorsed by either of those companies. My take on application and philosophy behind it: ua-cam.com/video/Z5lLPUIA95g/v-deo.html
raptor is not like any other bed lining...
"it was never a spares or repair car"... It's an all-aggro, it was always a repair car... every other weekend!
My dad had one, L reg, 1.3 L, harvest gold like yours (I always thought it should be called 'mustard turd') it was the car that I learnt about car mechanics on,
My dad was fixing it every other weekend, had the engine out about 4 or 5 times, it was an absolute mare, everything failed apart from the hydro-elastic suspension, it was the only good thing about the car,
Also, it could climb icy hills better than most things, just to give the old girl some credit,
He didn't learn though, he bought a Maestro after that.... aaargh!
@Nick Maclachlan BL browns and greens are like various shades of baby's first shit
Sofa- Lofa Utter DRIVEL! We had two in the family at the same time - my brother then mothers 1978 Allegro 1500 LE and my 1980 Allegro 1750 TC Equipe and they were both excellent and very reliable cars. I also bought a 1980 Mk3 1.3L from one of our customers of the garage I worked in back then in the 1990's to use to go to university because we had been servicing and looking after that car from when it was nearly new and bought it because I knew how reliable that car was. All of the Allegros we looked after and the Marinas as well were very reliable cars. Total bullshit to say that these cars were unreliable and always had things wrong with them. Maybe your dad bought someone else's unlooked after heap of crap - my uncle was like that and then always blamed the car. At least you were fixing your cars but if everything kept failing then maybe you were not doing the fixes right in the first place or were using cheap parts in your car. We always looked after and serviced our own cars in my family and never used cheap parts and our Allegros were very reliable and excellent cars. and plenty of people still enjoying their Allegros reliably today and that is why they keep them.
@@williamwoods8022 I'm glad that you and your family had a better experience with the BL range, perhaps you got a couple of good ones,
I have heard of people having reasonably trouble free motoring with them but the reputation is there for a reason... Many didn't
Perhaps the old saying 'it must have been built on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon' has some truth in it?
The Maestro was better, but still dogged with minor issues that were down to poor design and cost cutting in manufacturing, or poor installation at the factory, very slap dash rust proofing and under-sealing,
I believe the hydra-elastic suspension (or whatever it was called?) was carried over to the Maestro, again no issues, so they did at least get some things very right,
I think it's very unfair to call my comment 'total bullshit' that was your experience and this is ours, I'm glad you had a better one,
But the fact that some people slate BL cars for a good reason is un-escapable
Your giving it the life it deserves. I always had a soft spot for the Allegro.
The sill mouse did a great job on keeping the sills in great condition!
yes! - it has acted as a biological version of silica gel absorbing the moisture!
Great car to drive to Taunton👍👍👍
TO Taunton yeah, once you get here though its quicker to walk!!!
One day. One day...