EXPLAINED: Man City and Premier League BOTH claim victory in legal case over commercial deals
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Sky Sports News chief reporter Kaveh Solhekol explains how Manchester City and the Premier League have both claimed victory in their legal battle over commercial rules.
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just dock everton 10 points already lads
No make it 12 points and ban transfers
No Everton are sound they even sided with city unlike other clubs👍
🤣🤣🤣
What is interesting is the blatant oversight of the issue of shareholder loans. It appears that half the league are indebted to their shareholders after flooding money into the club via 'loan' (*cough Arsenal 200mil shareholder 'loan'). Everyone is breaching or bending the rules!
Arsenals shareholder loan is refinanced stadium debt. It wouldn't even count towards PSR rules anyway because it's classified as infrastructure spending so it's excluded.
Somehow you find a way to bring up Arsenal, when the real cheaters have been UTD for the 2000s and City in the last decade.
I'll save you a click, its nothing to do with the 115 charges
Shows PL are corrupt.
ty lol i got confused
I've already clicked by the time I see your comment
It is the benchmark fir the 115
EXPLAINED: Man City and Premier League BOTH claim victory in legal case over commercial deals
Deduct 10 points from Everton
What happened?
Wish they could and get your embarrassing club out the league.
The verdict: "The Tribunal ruled that there was an unreasonable delay in the Premier League’s fair market value assessment of two of City's sponsorship transactions, and so the Premier League breached its own rules."
People are acting like City's money is what's won them this case, but it's not like the PL doesn't have its own army of highly-paid lawyers. If you actually read the statements that have been put out it's pretty clear the PL have failed to instate rules that are lawful under the requirements of UK competition law. They are in the wrong here.
Shhhh you're not supposed to make sense and be reasonable on the internet, people have agendas to push
Makes you think what will happen about city not cooperating with the premier league over the 115 . Not just unreasonable delay city with held info
@@gingermanc98that's the problem we have in this internet generation. More bait and engagement than truth and honesty
@@randyvalantino6850 May be interesting, though I'm unsure if the tribunal/court settings are the same for that case.
Additionally, with the ruling of this case, as well the PL's prior failings to keep what should be private financial info away from the public eye, City may be able to argue that their noncooperation with the PL in such a matter is justifiable.
I'm not certain this case will have much impact on the FFP charges case in general.
City won cases worth 2b while the pl are saying they won some worth 100m😂😂😂..Dont let the pl fool you rivals
The premier League didn't forsee man city challenging them
Everton got 10 points deducted
Chelsea got a transfer ban
Man City get nothing
Unbelievable
City never admitted to any wrongdoing, and it falls on the "governing bodies" (if you can call them that) to come to the table with proof. Stop acting like their case is the same as other clubs because it's not.
How thick can you get. This HELPS Everton Chelsea and Newcastle.
City got £2B compensation
You have to stand up for what's right, if you don't challenge the PL you get points deducted.
How can the PL claim victory after being found to have acted unlawfully? Laughable
Because there were different aspects of it.
it says why in the article. If you actually read past the headlines, it's a major win for the premier league
@@ITSPROLLYAKBARI lol. It's not a win for the EPL!
@@ITSPROLLYAKBARI give us a brief explaination then. And is this a neutral 'article'?
🎉Surprising? Every 1 expected this. 😅 EPL have no balls like la liga.
Everton must really be thankful to those commercial deals or else they might have been given a 20 point deduction had City been found guilty
PL have to claim victory because if they don't, then when they go home, the tea that Liverpool made them will be purposefully cold, Arsenal will be sat with the TV remote clutched underneath folded arms, and Manchester United will have them sleeping on the sofa tonight.
Man City and Pep are some of the most corrupt entities in football.
crying about clubs that have grown and gained success over decades.... bit odd.
wtf are you on about?
Basically its all Everton's fault
It's hilarious how rivals are so desperate for City to get punished that they aren't willing to understand and make their research well on the supposed charges..They just want City out of the way so they could win something 😂
Exactly, they love to say city have cheated but when it turns out the prem have been making rules that go against competitive laws the fans back it, FFP and APT were put in place to "make the leagues competitive" note that clubs like man U have used Assosiated party transactions AIG in the past and all three of the red cartel have benefited hugely from outside investment spending more then anyone else so to have the opinion that the league was fair and competitive befor FFP is a joke and to say that FFP wasn't targeting City is delusional.
I’m sure they’re innocent of all charges just like Diddy
@@ToTheMaxGaming1 1/3 of them are for not cooperating so not all of them but you can't say we are guilty of them, don't forget this all came about because of hacked emails
Most rivals of Man City have confirmation bias that makes them believe they're definitely guilty without actually knowing that. Most supporters of Man City have confirmation bias that makes them believe they're definitely innocent without actually knowing that. I'm sure the OP wouldn't disagree with either of those statements
If city were 14th and had their worst start for years no one would care but seeing they are the greatest team in the world (well maybe 2nd) of course all the other clubs care....Oh and hahahahaha.
City won, let the copium officially begin 🔥
Everyone knows they corrupt so noone respects city anyways. Even after winning a fraud treble. They can't fill their stadium lol. Plastic fans
money TALKS and man city walks
Just remember folks that Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton were witnesses for Man City.
Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves provided written statements to support the Premier League's position.
Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Wolves should therefore not be allowed to benefit from this ruling. They've made their bed, now they can sleep in it.
@@TeamCGS2005 Thanks for being nice and clear about your views on the viability of different rules for different teams in the same league bro. Saves the rest of us a lot of time reading your comments.
@@TeamCGS2005What a stupid argument 😂
City said when they started this process, if successful, they will sue the Premier League for damages. Given the PL’s attitude to the ruling, City should now sue the PL, as they continue to believe they are above the law
Overall the premier league won lol the apt rules are lawful for the most part. Just 2 annex that one of which doesn't involve city at all it's about shareholder loans, the second part is just about sharing info. No big win for city, the rules still exist, and they don't get their inflated sponsorships if anything the rules are just stronger now. Everton are the real losers here, 471m loans from shareholders that now becomes part of psr
This vibe is fire!
Shut up.
Come on guys, let’s just ban Everton from the Premier League
Nah, PL has been embarrassed. 😂😂
Let's not pretend we all know didn't know Premier league won't do anything to them.. They damn well know City is their heavy hitter in Europe, they know they're the face of prem.. They're prem's cash cow, biggest revenue generators..They couldn't even punish them even if they wanted to 😂
cmon citeh..winning on and off the pitch☺☺
That’s not correct. It wasn’t fair market value. It was what the prem, and the septic 6 thought they were. Not fair at all. Everyone knew this.
Wheres arsenal point deduction would of broke psr by 200m if stake holder loans was accounted in psr which has been ruled today
*would have 😌
No they wouldn’t because it was stadium financing - infrastructure is not included.
Get over your hatred of the classy club.
How are those little points? Confused people
115 charges and not a single thing, bullshit mate
the investigation isnt done yet mate is takes up to 8 months
We all know nothing will happen.. Don't get your hopes up only to get disappointed 😂
This is a different thing to the 115 charges.
Calm down
@@jamesrosen1314 its not even to do with 115, just because the title doesnt say breaking man city relegated, dont start to think they have won the whole court case
Money can buy you anything nowadays.
Except brain it seems
Low IQ comment
The world is controlled know that fact
I’ve been saying it for months
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THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS CORRUPTED FILLED WITH THESE YANKEE SCUM
The competitive balance of the Premier League is already extorted. These rules merely exist to keep the 'big 6' at the top.
There was no way the Premiere league was going to win given the ripple effect a Premiere league win would have. The money that would leave the league and go elsewhere is unimaginable !
We have done nothing wrong mcfc best run club ever....
So they are not saying that the apt rules are wrong, but that they should include loans? Fair enough. Not a massive win for City, though, is it? A loss for those with interest free loans, but it’s only fair in a way that that are included.
I mean, it shows there's a vendetta against City from clubs that have hundreds of millions in loans between them and their owners, yet they have used this as deflection (blaming City) while its obvious City's owner don't want to use his club to make his bank account bigger like rivals club, in fact almost every revenue won at the pitch has been used to transform the City of Manchester plus thousands of jobs, but rivals hate that reality. Its also important to mention the League did nothing for decades while United, Liverpool and friends broke spending records after spending records and only cared about this when another club challenged them at the pitch.
Can we just get back to the football please?
Will be interesting to see if City now seeks damages from the Premier League for illegally blocking 2 sponsorship deals.
The only person that needs to be investigated in overpaying vs fair market value is whoever signs off Kavehs salary. The guy just yaps on and on and on about the same point.
What about the 115 charges?
Give it a few months.
Cause it's a separate charge to this. Could expect December January time for any out come for that
@@arafatibrahim6343 Decision is coming around February. They will be significantly influenced by this outcome because what City won here applies to most of those 115 charges
@@spark556no it doesn't
@@justthetruth1 cry more hater 🍼 😂
PL found to be unlawfully favouring certain clubs and they claim victory? haha
Football is as dirty as politics but at least politicians usually have the decency to resign
Here's a joke for you. What's the difference between the Glaziers and the Arabs as owners? One's prepared to spend their money. The PL are making out that this is a BAD thing.
Am I the only one that doesn’t understand the victories here.. I mean, I understand it’s in black and white but it all sounds like a Willy Wonka episode
Why do they speak so sloooowly?
Because they're reading the script😊
So they changed the rules because Newcastle got took over and they were scared? So they then changed the rules to benefit the red cartel?? This has opened up way more than the Premier League would’ve wanted.
The corruption is absolutely insane. Bringing in rules purely to stop a club spending money that they literally have. At the same time Chelsea spending over a billion absolutely no questions asked
The actual outcome is for sure a net positive for the premier league and not Man City. The APT system stays the same with changes in the speed at which an APT decision is made (the court ruled the process took too long) and that clubs will have some access to the databank that the premier league uses to judge if the deals are of fair market value. Also shareholder loans are now accounted for in PSR decisions.
Enough of the this foolishness. 10 point deduction for Everton.
WHY DID YOU READ EPL STATEMENT AND DIDN'T READ MANCHESTER CITY'S STATEMENT. ( ALL OF YOU ARE THE SAME. WORKING FOR THE RED CARTEL CLUBS.
My sentiments exactly!!!!
How come I can drive around Manchester an hour before kick off and youse are the biggest club in the world .BUT THERES NO TRAFFIC ON FOOT OR CAR , Come off it ! 😂your club stinks of corruption
@@larrygoddard2033 just look at how the media is quiet. Skysports, talksports. If City were to have lost the case . It will be breaking news every seconds. No other topic will be discussed. They are all gutted. We know they are all working for the red cartel clubs but the end time is here because City will challenge everyone.
Our Chairman said it. ( I quote " I will deliver my blunt speech in all of these in the end: I can't wait for his speech after everything.
You're confused over city's statement, the only big thing city won on was their 2 sponsorships got set aside... SET ASIDE. not granted lol city will still have to reapply under the same apt rules until the changes take effect n even then all it means is they'll get access to the info faster as to why it's rejected. The panel agreed with the reasoning as to why it was declined but not the time it took. Lol loss for city, bigger loss for Everton due to the loans they have.
Powerful people in this world always have the final say.
The release of the whole document has rendered your disingenuous framing of this for what it is.
Because this video is bias by just covering the Premier League's statement, here is Man City's statement:
""Man City:
Following today's publication of the Rule X Arbitral Tribunal Award, Manchester City Football Club thanks the distinguished members of the Arbitral Tribunal for their work and considerations and welcomes their findings:
The club has succeeded with its claim: the Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules have been found to be unlawful and the Premier League's decisions on two specific MCFC sponsorship transactions have been set aside
The tribunal found that both the original APT rules and the current, (amended) APT Rules violate UK competition law and violate the requirements of procedural fairness.
The Premier League was found to have abused its dominant position.
The tribunal has determined both that the rules are structurally unfair and that the Premier League was specifically unfair in how it applied those rules to the club in practice.
The rules were found to be discriminatory in how they operate, because they deliberately excluded shareholder loans.
As well as these general findings on legality, the tribunal has set aside specific decisions of the Premier League to restate the fair market value of two transactions entered into by the club.
The tribunal held that the Premier League had reached the decisions in a procedurally unfair manner.
The tribunal also ruled that there was an unreasonable delay in the Premier League's fair market value assessment of two of the club's sponsorship transactions, and so the Premier League breached its own rules."
Imagine claiming the rules are unlawful thinking you will get rid of them so you can get away with it and it turns out they add another rule to it 😂 then for some reason you claim a victory 🤦🏻♂️
The other clubs will love man city for making them pay interest on their loans when it's ammended and if Pep thought the other clubs were out for Man City, they are now 😂
This ruling basically stops Arsenal and other teams from putting money into their clubs from loans and effectively stopping them from catching up with City financially!
Basically, they have a win over their rivals through a back door.
@simonspoke Newcastle can buy the hole of city there nothing they can do about it they are richest club in the world
@@andrewwright4195 They can't buy the city if they're not allowed to. 🤷
@@simonspoke city can lose there best players if Newcastle decide I want him ect
@@simonspoke what I really want to happen is city and Newcastle to buy real Madrid and Barcelona best players make them cry so much
Send them to the Vanarama North with a non promotion clause for 5 years already.
..PL is not interresting anymore
😊😊😊at the end both won? You mean they both got paid up for the time wasted😮
Biggest scandal in sporting history. Everyone is involved
Premier League throwing bullshit word salad to dull the sting
So it stopped us spending but left others to continue to spend. Fking shocking to be fair . We are stagnant while others can spend SHOCKING Come on Newcastle name some big sponsors. 🙏🏻
I’ve been saying it for months
THE RED CARTEL 🇺🇸 WHICH NOT ONLY CONSIST OF THOSE THREE PIRATES 🏴☠️, also TOTTENHAM 🇺🇸 CRYTAL PALACE 🇺🇸, EVERTON 🇺🇸, FULLHAM 🇺🇸, IPSWICH 🇺🇸,
THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS CORRUPTED FILLED WITH THESE YANKEE SCUM
I just want someone else, anyone else, to explain this. Sounds like this guy learned to talk last week
How can you measure "fair market value"?
Accountants & Lawyers control everything
For fair market value if you want a linked business sponsoring your club they should only be able to match a credible offer from another business. Sport first business second. Sport has rules for fair competition
The fa loan system is how roman did it at Chelsea for the club to buy players the club pays it back over a period of time
PL loses the lawsuit
Everton gets 15 points deduction😅
Corruption
Absolute bollox jargon confusing everyone we dont understand doodoo talk😮
U just know this case is corrupt
Proof? 🤓
That's your mentality. It must be unfair if it doesn't go your way
@@9751_ bro u even know it’s corrupt don’t try hide it
U just know u didn’t get an A Levels
@@TheFormerkgbchief dead joke fix ur English
So which division do they play in next season.
No wonder city are found not guilty with their charges no wonder Man City has 0 charges
Short of the long.
City failed to get anything changed apart from getting an agreement that Shareholder loans will also be included with APT calculations.
The hearing disagreed with City that APT should be scrapped and they disagreed with City that the Premier League refusing their bloated sponsorship deals was the wrong outcome.
Well done City. Big win! 😂
This ruling basically stops Arsenal and other teams from putting money into their clubs from loans and effectively stopping them from catching up with City financially!
Basically, they have a win over their rivals through a back door.
do u want some chips with that salt😂
@@simonspokeno it doesn’t. At all. Arsenal owners just say, here’s 200 million, as an interest free loan. To keep the repayments down for the sake of APT, the term of the loan is 999 years.
@simonspoke
No
They only have to put those loans on a commercial footing - and charge a standard market rate of interest on those loans.
Currently that would cost about £8-10m per year.
In short this opens the door for city to use the shareholder loan to find a flaw against the prosecution (PL) re the 115 charges. How many of the 115 charges will be admissible is now questionable. It’s not what you know it’s what you can prove. As an Arsenal fan I have no issue with what City have done over the last few years, they’ve had to, to be competitive. Fans don’t care how the incomes generated so long the clubs are kept competitive and City have been trying to catch up with the rest since 2010 and they’ve done a bloody good job of it.
The explanation is more confusing than anything
It was always going to be embarrassing 😂
😊they found a loop hole so it never stated you can work with your own investment group. So others will do the same going forward its imbarrising for the epl because it's clear who owns the league dictates. Once again this case was about who got the best socititors.😊 we live in a world controlled by private organisations who pay top wages to get out of moments like this. The EPL's will turn like italian league citys another Juventus 😢😢
Just let them do whatever they want. If they win the premier league fair enough
Here comes the money (here we go, money talks)
Here comes the money
Money, money, money, money
Money, money, money, money, money (dolla dolla, dolla dolla)
Football has turned into a business and lost it's soul it's like mcdonald's or Starbucks.
If City get away with this 115 charges, then I hope most Premier League clubs are talking to eachother behind the scenes about boycotting Premier League with City & decide to make a breakaway league that's fair and plays with the rules. That would hurt City the most without anyone in the league with them.
😂😂 yeah you hope
what stops city forming A league with other clubs?
@@mancityaddisand who do you think would join a league with cheats that don't even have a relevant fan base.....
@@mancityaddis Good then bye bye not of us want cheats anyway. You would do everyone a favour for once.
Congrats, you made the most immature and dumb comment in the comments section. Well done 🎉
Heard enough send off Declan Rice
City are victorious
Pfft wont be saying that in a few months
Man City are innocent of all 115 charges just like Diddy
Yk what let’s relegate Fulham they bought smith rowe which means they should be punished
Well that's it then isn't it if the prem can't win this case then they aint winning the 115 charges case
Some great spin from Red Sports 😂
bs
Me compare how bad Manchester city get fine not fine
Corruption in plain sight
Corrupt Premier league as we have known all along. Masters needs to resign.
Its a win for football. They said the rules are necessary and we wont have teams just spending what they want and making it uncompetitive. In fact they said the rules dont go far enough. So it is a win for city, they’re unlawful in their current guise which is why when we introduce much more stringent rules as recommended by the panel, that are lawful and city will find much harder to comply with, it will be great to see them vote in favour of them
Cmon bro. With haste!!. Carvahal or whatever his name is, always with a damn history story
No way the leauge is rigged
THIS IS MC HAMMER YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS FPREMIER LEAGUE ONLY GO FOR SMALL TEAMS THE LIKES OF EVERTON
BREAKING NEWS: Manchester City own the Premier League.
More to come later when their 115 charges turn into....(whispers) nothing
So after this it means that City are going to get away with it Scott Free and not have any points deduction and I am done with how biased the League is as Everton and Forrest get punished but City get sod all!!
Just give it a few months
@@slashthe2ndfor them to say that they are not going to get any action taken against them!
This has nothing to do with the 115 charges
@@deanshields8031 I know it’s just in preparation for them to be found not guilty
@@daveharrisonjnrwhy did you get your hopes up
Just jump to 9:58 save your time
So City cheats and the PL has to change their rules to allow them to cheat. And Newcastle, Chelsea and Everton back them because they want to cheat as well. Kick them all out of the league
Did you read the statements? Various APT rules instituted by the PL are unlawful under UK competition law. City aren't cheating here.
Quote: "The Tribunal found that both the original APT rules and the current, (amended) APT Rules violate UK competition law and violate the requirements of procedural fairness."
"The Tribunal has determined both that the rules are structurally unfair and that the Premier League was specifically unfair in how it applied those rules to the Club (City) in practice."
115 when
Just say money talk unfair decision from 115 charges this the best jokes of 21century that's bullshit
This has nothing to do with the 115 charges
So basically they are going to win it again then 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 for god sake 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤔🙄🙄🙄
Somebody explain
Bs solicitors Cochran
City fans happy they can keep buying trophies.
WATCH THE END OF ALL OF THESE SAGA MC WILL COME ON TOP OF EVERYTHING F-THE PREMIER LEAGUE ONLY WORKS ON SMALL TEAMS
I’ve read all 174 pages and I can confirm it’s very boring and I don’t care.
You guys are the best! Thanks. The PL must have had political operatives try to spin the outcome.😂
Thay though newcastle might win the league 😂 mcfc
Saudi pressure.
City is Abu Dhabi. He even said Abu Dhabi like 20 times in the video
@@connor7162 I'm talking about the meetings between the UAE and UK government...more than football, its about a big old money vacuum and improving international reputations from my view.
@@francesoxberry6816 Saudi isn’t in the UAE