One thing that I just realized some days ago watching this movie with my mom was the Santa behind Tom, on the most emotional part of this scene. In beginning, on the first karaoke scene, he tells to Summer that " It's love. It's not Santa Claus".
This is really inspirational because he really feels for America and people in general you can tell by the way he is practically on the verge of crying, the world needs more people who actually care about what and who they promote that being in this case “love”.
The answer to life's universal malaise, from mass media to family-social breakdown, is explained neatly here. This clip (bless you Ysel Bisnar) has to be widely distributed, ala on par with The Bible, Koran or whatever other holy book is out there. I saw this movie in 2010 or so, and 6 years later this scene makes me suppress tears.
Yes, there's romantic love - like the god of love Eros/Cupid (though granted he and Aphrodite/Venus were also seen as personifications of sexual love and desire, and we all know that sex doesn't equal love - I've known that since I was 12 when I watched 'Down with Love' (released in 2004) ). But according to the Ancient Greeks and Romans, there were at least 6 other types of love, let me check: 1. Agape: love of mankind 2. Storge : family love, natural love 3. Philia: brotherly love - like between friends 4. Mania: manic, obsessive love (not such a good one but can still happen) 5. Ludos: playful, ridiculous love, not really serious, can range from a light-hearted fling to two little kids shyly holding hands because they like each other. 6. Philautia: self-love, dangerous when it becomes self obsession but healthy when it's love and acceptance of yourself, helping you maybe to go onto other kinds of love or to make you happy even if you don't find romantic love. So that Tom is my answer to what 'love' means. Because while you're up there saying that we just go to that word to avoid saying what we really mean, you forget how many ways that word can apply to so many people. If you want to say that 'romantic love doesn't exist', then say 'romantic love', because you're not as good as denying the fact that your friends and your sister clearly care about you enough, maybe even love you enough to sit there with you and listen to you while you talk and talk and go on and go on about everything that's gone wrong in your life because of this one break up after they were willing to sit there and listen to you talk about how amazing Summer is for weeks and weeks, even if it was just about how you two like the same type of music. And both then and now they clearly cared enough about you to tell you what they think, to give you some advice or even just a few words of caution about your relationship with her whether you were willing to listen to them or not. Because that's also what love is, when you love your family and your friend enough to talk to them or listen to them about their relationship or their personal problems even if that's all your relationship has become, you talking about yourself. And maybe you should consider showing that you care about them enough to try asking them about their love life or anyone they might like or just their life in general and talk to them about it rather than just talk about yourself the whole time. No, we should not dedicate our lives to finding 'the one' but that doesn't mean we should close our hearts off to even the possibility of romantic love. That's something we know Summer learns when she meets someone she wants to take a chance with enough to marry him because even though it might not work out, it still might, and there's nothing wrong with taking that chance. And just because someone has a break-up or people get divorced doesn't mean that an emotion doesn't exist, it just means that people make mistakes, that's what we do as people a lot, and most of the time we make mistakes where it has nothing to do with love or relationships. And that's something Tom and Summer both learn throughout this movie. And just because we haven't yet found romantic love doesn't mean that the word love has no meaning, because there's always love of friends, love of family, love of doing something we're good at or love of something we enjoy doing, love of a pet, love of scenery, of art or music or movies, or of food or of one specific place. Yes it becomes dangerous if we always throw it around with no meaning, but that doesn't mean that it has no meaning for anyone or anything.
I might be talking out my butt here because it’s 5:00 in the morning and I just woke up, but that’s one of the things I love about this movie. He’s fallen for Ludos, mistaking it for Storge. This movie is less about the existence of love itself, and more about how often we forget how intricate love is. Usually, we’re Tom, mistaking Ludos for something more serious and then being surprised and hurt and upset when it turns out to be what it was all along. Being smitten by someone’s scent, or their hair, or their form, their habits, their facial expressions, that’s not familial love and it doesn’t last. It can’t sustain a lifelong partnership. Romance is a shifting bedrock. It’s certainly effective, even necessary, but it can’t be relied on forever. It must mature into something steady which is the part we all seem to trip on. Anyways, you caught my eye is all, thank you for your time.
Sometimes I really wish that there was an Elinor Dashwood character in this movie because Tom is really acting like Marianne Dashwood here - the bad parts of her character that is, the self-centred and arrogant part of her character. If not from the original 'Sense and Sensibility' book, then at least from the web series 'Elinor and Marianne Take Barton' - full series here: ua-cam.com/channels/r3icFeboXv0aFFohltFiSg.html But specifically from episode 21: ua-cam.com/video/vuV_af7gf8s/v-deo.html Specifically (SPOILER: DO NOT READ BELOW UNLESS YOU REALLY REALLY WANT TO): I can hear Tom in lines from Marianne such as: "I understand everything perfectly, I just don't care. I mean, nothing in my life ever works out for me anymore, so, I don't care." or "Oh so now my feelings are invalid just because other people have problems?" "That's not what I was trying to say." "It is and you know it." or "I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to be upset about something I really really care about. Maybe it's jus that you've never been rejected by someone you really like, but it feels horrible." or "With (NAME), he/she was everything I ever wanted and I still couldn't have it, and I thought maybe you'd understand but you just don't know how it feels." And I sometimes really wish that there was a character or a storyline in the movie or that his sister or his friends had the chance to be more like Elinor and say lines such as " Don't you dare start commenting on what I do and don't feel. Because yes, there were days when I just wanted to curl up on the floor and not speak to anyone, but I didn't, because that's actually not acceptable behaviour." or "But...you were fine...you were totally fine." "Yeah, that's because I know how to handle myself." or "But....but with (NAME) you're normal" "Yes. Because we had to be. Because that was the mature thing to do. Because what point would there actually be in making a scene?" or "So you can call me cold and emotionless as much as you want but that if it hadn't been for the sake of my own dignity, I could've provided you with enough proof of a broken heart." or "That's not fair, I didn't know!" "Would it have mattered if you did? Because if you have the most romantic story in the world, then it's the most interesting thing in the world, but if it's not about you, then you just don't care!"
He assumed she was happy when she wasn't. He never asked her and he refused to see the signs that she wasn't happy - right down to when she clearly wanted to go home and he just said "I've got the perfect idea. Pancakes".
If anyone is interested in tips about creating and keeping a good relationship, watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/8sFitCMQqV8/v-deo.html Frankly speaking I don't think Tom ever did any of the following. Though I admit Summer might have been a little clearer about it in some places, but then again she told him from the start that she didn't want anything serious, and then later said that he deserved to have some clarity on what their relationship was but that she couldn't promise him that she'd feel the same way about him forever, only that she could be sure about how she felt about him right now.
One thing that I just realized some days ago watching this movie with my mom was the Santa behind Tom, on the most emotional part of this scene. In beginning, on the first karaoke scene, he tells to Summer that " It's love. It's not Santa Claus".
This scene made me cry for the first time while watching a movie, and I don't cry while watching movies, sick!
One of the strongest scenes I've ever watched..
This is really inspirational because he really feels for America and people in general you can tell by the way he is practically on the verge of crying, the world needs more people who actually care about what and who they promote that being in this case “love”.
Such a great scene
The answer to life's universal malaise, from mass media to family-social breakdown, is explained neatly here. This clip (bless you Ysel Bisnar) has to be widely distributed, ala on par with The Bible, Koran or whatever other holy book is out there. I saw this movie in 2010 or so, and 6 years later this scene makes me suppress tears.
I love the slow clap at the end
Did you know at the beginning of the video the actress who play Rhoda in this movie 500 days of summer is the English dub voice for Naruto.
It’s this scene that made me hate the greeting card industry 😂
Yes, there's romantic love - like the god of love Eros/Cupid (though granted he and Aphrodite/Venus were also seen as personifications of sexual love and desire, and we all know that sex doesn't equal love - I've known that since I was 12 when I watched 'Down with Love' (released in 2004) ).
But according to the Ancient Greeks and Romans, there were at least 6 other types of love, let me check:
1. Agape: love of mankind
2. Storge : family love, natural love
3. Philia: brotherly love - like between friends
4. Mania: manic, obsessive love (not such a good one but can still happen)
5. Ludos: playful, ridiculous love, not really serious, can range from a light-hearted fling to two little kids shyly holding hands because they like each other.
6. Philautia: self-love, dangerous when it becomes self obsession but healthy when it's love and acceptance of yourself, helping you maybe to go onto other kinds of love or to make you happy even if you don't find romantic love.
So that Tom is my answer to what 'love' means. Because while you're up there saying that we just go to that word to avoid saying what we really mean, you forget how many ways that word can apply to so many people. If you want to say that 'romantic love doesn't exist', then say 'romantic love', because you're not as good as denying the fact that your friends and your sister clearly care about you enough, maybe even love you enough to sit there with you and listen to you while you talk and talk and go on and go on about everything that's gone wrong in your life because of this one break up after they were willing to sit there and listen to you talk about how amazing Summer is for weeks and weeks, even if it was just about how you two like the same type of music. And both then and now they clearly cared enough about you to tell you what they think, to give you some advice or even just a few words of caution about your relationship with her whether you were willing to listen to them or not. Because that's also what love is, when you love your family and your friend enough to talk to them or listen to them about their relationship or their personal problems even if that's all your relationship has become, you talking about yourself. And maybe you should consider showing that you care about them enough to try asking them about their love life or anyone they might like or just their life in general and talk to them about it rather than just talk about yourself the whole time.
No, we should not dedicate our lives to finding 'the one' but that doesn't mean we should close our hearts off to even the possibility of romantic love. That's something we know Summer learns when she meets someone she wants to take a chance with enough to marry him because even though it might not work out, it still might, and there's nothing wrong with taking that chance. And just because someone has a break-up or people get divorced doesn't mean that an emotion doesn't exist, it just means that people make mistakes, that's what we do as people a lot, and most of the time we make mistakes where it has nothing to do with love or relationships. And that's something Tom and Summer both learn throughout this movie. And just because we haven't yet found romantic love doesn't mean that the word love has no meaning, because there's always love of friends, love of family, love of doing something we're good at or love of something we enjoy doing, love of a pet, love of scenery, of art or music or movies, or of food or of one specific place.
Yes it becomes dangerous if we always throw it around with no meaning, but that doesn't mean that it has no meaning for anyone or anything.
I might be talking out my butt here because it’s 5:00 in the morning and I just woke up, but that’s one of the things I love about this movie. He’s fallen for Ludos, mistaking it for Storge. This movie is less about the existence of love itself, and more about how often we forget how intricate love is. Usually, we’re Tom, mistaking Ludos for something more serious and then being surprised and hurt and upset when it turns out to be what it was all along.
Being smitten by someone’s scent, or their hair, or their form, their habits, their facial expressions, that’s not familial love and it doesn’t last. It can’t sustain a lifelong partnership. Romance is a shifting bedrock. It’s certainly effective, even necessary, but it can’t be relied on forever. It must mature into something steady which is the part we all seem to trip on.
Anyways, you caught my eye is all, thank you for your time.
Sometimes I really wish that there was an Elinor Dashwood character in this movie because Tom is really acting like Marianne Dashwood here - the bad parts of her character that is, the self-centred and arrogant part of her character. If not from the original 'Sense and Sensibility' book, then at least from the web series 'Elinor and Marianne Take Barton' - full series here: ua-cam.com/channels/r3icFeboXv0aFFohltFiSg.html
But specifically from episode 21: ua-cam.com/video/vuV_af7gf8s/v-deo.html
Specifically (SPOILER: DO NOT READ BELOW UNLESS YOU REALLY REALLY WANT TO):
I can hear Tom in lines from Marianne such as:
"I understand everything perfectly, I just don't care. I mean, nothing in my life ever works out for me anymore, so, I don't care."
or
"Oh so now my feelings are invalid just because other people have problems?" "That's not what I was trying to say." "It is and you know it."
or
"I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to be upset about something I really really care about. Maybe it's jus that you've never been rejected by someone you really like, but it feels horrible."
or
"With (NAME), he/she was everything I ever wanted and I still couldn't have it, and I thought maybe you'd understand but you just don't know how it feels."
And I sometimes really wish that there was a character or a storyline in the movie or that his sister or his friends had the chance to be more like Elinor and say lines such as
" Don't you dare start commenting on what I do and don't feel. Because yes, there were days when I just wanted to curl up on the floor and not speak to anyone, but I didn't, because that's actually not acceptable behaviour."
or
"But...you were fine...you were totally fine." "Yeah, that's because I know how to handle myself."
or
"But....but with (NAME) you're normal" "Yes. Because we had to be. Because that was the mature thing to do. Because what point would there actually be in making a scene?"
or
"So you can call me cold and emotionless as much as you want but that if it hadn't been for the sake of my own dignity, I could've provided you with enough proof of a broken heart."
or
"That's not fair, I didn't know!" "Would it have mattered if you did? Because if you have the most romantic story in the world, then it's the most interesting thing in the world, but if it's not about you, then you just don't care!"
1:10 lmao this dude is forgetting that there are blank spaces where people can write how they really feel within the cards
He’s right happy or no
He assumed she was happy when she wasn't. He never asked her and he refused to see the signs that she wasn't happy - right down to when she clearly wanted to go home and he just said "I've got the perfect idea. Pancakes".
If anyone is interested in tips about creating and keeping a good relationship, watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/8sFitCMQqV8/v-deo.html
Frankly speaking I don't think Tom ever did any of the following. Though I admit Summer might have been a little clearer about it in some places, but then again she told him from the start that she didn't want anything serious, and then later said that he deserved to have some clarity on what their relationship was but that she couldn't promise him that she'd feel the same way about him forever, only that she could be sure about how she felt about him right now.