Wheel wells. In less than 15 minutes with a small 2-3" drum sander you can attach to any cordless drill, you can gain about a 1/4" of clearance depending on how thick your deck is and how aggressive you want to get. I do it to almost every deck I own, if they don't already come with them from the factory.
i already know everything about board maintenance and standard customization like the difference between risers and shock pads in skating, yet i still watch these videos lol
I just switched from 52mm Spitfires with no riser to 56mm Spitfires with 1/8th riser. I skate super-tight trucks - so I didn't get risers for the wheelbite. I got the risers (and big wheels) 'cause I'd been having trouble with the area I skate it having asphalt on the rough side and getting caught up in the isolation gaps on concrete. It does seem to ride smoother and rolls over stuff easier - but an unexpected benefit was I seem to be able to pop the board up a good distance higher. So not only are my ollies better, but being able to pop the board higher means there's more time for the board to spin during flips tricks and it's easier to complete the trick mid-air and catch it before landing - so your feet stop the board clean before the wheels touch the ground as opposed to having the wheels hit before your feet land. Just something I noticed and I'm happy with the extra few mm of height.
Love the vids guys. Sound advice and straight to the point. Just moved from 55mm wheels to 65mm on an 8" wide deck. Got any advice on riser sizes in relation to larger wheels? I skate mostly for transport but love bowls and mini ramps when I can find them. Aunty Corona has given us so much time and so I've skated more in the last few weeks than I have in the last decade. You never lose that feeling but farggg it's hurts a lot more
With some 65mm wheels, you'll need at least 1/4 inch risers, but you might want 1/2 inch risers (so tall!). If you don't want to go quite as big as 1/2", you could get a set of 1/4" and 1/8" risers and combine them for 3/8". I guess it just depends on how loose your trucks are. I hope you're having a blast out there! - Tim
I'm kind of a chonker so i get wheel bite even when i'm going straight, to not have this problem i basically i had to put my front foot at the center of the board and it was real uncomfortable. Now thanks to this video I know what i have to do to solve this problem
Right now I’m trying to build a new board but it’s 8.1 inch so I’m still trying to figure all this stuff out with these little parts. Your videos are really helpful so thank you man
Pretty much all regular riser pads will fit all trucks. They do not need to line up perfectly, as long as the rubber is located under the truck. Plenty of riser pads have six holes to account for different styles of trucks. I also think the combination of medium tightness trucks and properly sized wheels is the best way of dealing with wheel bite. Because no riser pad is really going to help you when trucks are so loose that you hit the board with the wheel a lot. A lot of people actually ride wheels that are too big for their setup (low truck, super soft bushings, loose truck setting, no riser pad, maybe soft wheels etc). I rarely ever get wheel bite and it usually only ever happens when I land on just one wheel. I do ride riser pads by the way, but only because the roads I tend to ride on are rough as hell.
What kind of trucks are you using? Also, what size wheel? And deck/truck width? I tried Mini Logo trucks and found them to be horrible with regard to wheel bite. Too low. And I'm wondering of the geometry is a problem also. Switched to my old Indys. Problem gone. This is with 53mm wheels and an 8" deck.
I bought a 54mm set and I don't want to use risers or tighten the trucks, which is a substantial change, maybe wax is the solution, not risers because I like my set up and 1 mm increase is not a Big deal from 53. Thx 4 your videos, well Made as usual.
I think one thing that will help with wheel bite is if truck manufacturers put the height of the truck in their spec sheets at skate shops. I just saw this with Indy Titaniums. The tag said 53.5mm high so at most I can put on there is 53mm. If I put 56mm wheels I'm going to need a riser.
Indys with the standard base plate are 55mm. The ones with the forged base plate are 53.5mm because the base plate isn't as tall. If you look on nhsfunfactory's website, they list the risers sizes you need for different wheel sizes. I think you need a 1/8" riser. I'm planning on getting some 58mm wheels. I'll see how that works out. Would be nice to not use a riser, but, I ride my trucks pretty loose. Hopefully, an 1/8" riser will be good enough. I'm not sure what you are saying about only being able to use 53mm wheels. Divide the wheel height in half. Only have the wheel is on the side of the axle near the board.
I’m currently riding thunder 148s and 52 F4 spitfires and i’m getting crazy wheel bite and i ride my trucks kinda tight🤦🏾♂️ thinking about getting risers but I may also just need to get used to my new setup. i just got back into skating and was riding some 8 year old sliver trucks and smaller spitfires before I bought this new set up
Our stores are open for appointment, so if you call customer service and tell them when you want to be at the shop, then someone will be there to open the doors. Well... unless it's 2:00 AM 😆 - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Hell ya. I need to upgrade my old board from a trick board to a cruiser. All the skating I do these days is being pulled by my dog. I'm thinkin, new bearings, larger soft wheels.
i don’t expect to get a reply, but here’s my issue. i had a dope ass sector 9 cruiser. AMAZING! well…my old friend took my longboard, took it apart, and then fucking painted it. so now i have to a) put it back together, or b) buy a new one and put THAT together. but the thing is, i truly don’t know much about longboards. i got into it for the sole purpose of riding around my neighborhood, i never thought i’d lose the board i had and have to rebuild one so i didn’t really learn too much about it. like i’m saying…i had a sick ass board. the guy who gave it to me had risers on it but i have no idea how big they were. the longboard was suuuuper lifted though. like i could put my old school vans (for size visuals) underneath and they wouldn’t touch the top of the board lol. so i’m curious on how high it ‘might’ have been. i have some videos of it but they’re not too good…just quick little flashes of me riding pretty much. his board also made sharp, quick turns which is what i absolutely loved about it. how do you get sharp turns instead of long turns?? i can’t do the long turns LMFAO. would a local shop be able to answer my questions?
There's no "specific time" to replace your bushings, but if they are split and crushed to the point where they are making it hard for you to do your favorite tricks, or they flop from side to side without the truck turning like it should then it might be worth replacing them. I hope that helps! - Tim
I wanted to turn my skateboard to a cruise board so i got a 70mm wheels but i suffered with wheel bites so i was thinking instead if changing the wheels cause the wheels are so soft and comfy actually to get a riser pad what do u think?!! Or should i change the truck also
Would they make my low trucks feel similar to mid trucks? Because I got a deck from element but I went up a size from 8.25 to an 8.38 and the only trucks that fit are these low hollow ventures I really liked the thunder mids I had on my other board.
Hi! I’m a new skater and I have trick wheels. The thing is, I want to cruise more so I bought 60mm, soft, cruising wheels. I have a 9 ply deck. How high should the risers be so I can avoid wheel bite.
With 60mm soft wheels, you should be fine with 1/8 inch risers, but you could also go with some 1/4 inch risers if you like your trucks looser. Then you'll have to get longer hardware to accommodate for the riser and the extra thick deck (9 ply). If you have 1/8 inch risers you'll need at least 1 1/8 inch hardware, and if you get 1/4 inch risers, you'll need at least 1 1/4 inch risers. Obviously risers aren't a guarantee that you won't get wheelbite, but it significantly helps. Cheers! - Tim
Hey, I'm not sure what size board I have (as it was handed to me) but it's most likely the average complete size. I want to get 60mm wheels but I'm not sure what size riser do I need. Any recommendations? Thanks
The size of the board isn't going to make a difference on what size risers you should get, but if you're getting 60mm wheels, you'll probably want at least 1/8 inch risers. If you like super loose trucks, then you might want 1/4 inch risers just in case. If you get some risers make sure you get long enough hardware to accommodate for them. 0:56 Cheers! - Tim
I mean, the Indy risers will go on the Thunder trucks, but they'll stick out on one side a little more than the other. Thunder made their own risers for a hot minute, but I haven't seen any in a while. I know Lucky and Bones risers will fit perfectly on Thunder trucks. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop I found a place selling thunder risers and already ordered a few pairs, thanks for replying as well as the suggestions of other risers that fit :)
I don't see any reason why you couldn't stack a riser and a shock pad together. Also, I don't think it matters which one goes on top or bottom because the shock pad will still absorb vibrations wherever it is. 👍
Hi I’m a beginner. I’ve got 54mm wheels and 3mm riser and get wheel bite. My skateboard looks much lower than others. I want to get a 6mm riser but want to ask if I can stack two 3mm risers on top of each other?
Except the wheel bite, does risers 1/8 help absorb landing a little if you got bad knees or is the difference nothing significant if you don't skate big stairs or so?
The hard plastic risers won't absorb any impact, but the soft rubber shock pads can soak up a little bit but the difference isn't going to be drastic. They're mainly for absorbing vibrations to give you a smoother ride, but every little bit counts right? - Tim
You should be ok with just 1/8 inch risers. But if you like your trucks super loose, then you could go up to 1/4 inch. Make sure you get hardware that's long enough for them too! Cheers! - Tim
They do absorb some of the sound, but it's very subtle. It kind of makes the board and bearings sound hollow and lower pitch if that makes any sense. - Tim
I have 50mm wheels and I think low trucks. I'm not sure how to measure the hardness of them on my own but I think they're on the semi-hard side of things. I've been wanting to get cruiser wheels for street skating. Thing is, I don't want to get too big of wheels, or too soft/hard where it's not efficient and I waste my money. What should I get/do?
If you just get some cruiser wheels in the 78a - 86a range, you can get any size and it will still be smooth. If you get some in the 52 - 55mm range you won't need any risers to keep from getting wheelbite. Cheers! - Tim
I have a 7 ply deck with 60mm wheels, and I am wondering if 1/4" risers with 1 1/4" hardware high enough so I dont get wheels bite, or should I get 1/2" risers and 1 1/2" hardware? And do krux trucks fit the independent risers?
1/4" risers with 1 1/4" hardware will work and should be enough clearance, unless your trucks are crazy loose. The Indy riser will fit on the Krux trucks, but they don't line up perfectly. I'm pretty sure that Lucky and Pig risers fit Krux trucks better. Cheers! - Tim
@@rolandrelatores647 Yes, the Krooked risers will work. Any of the risers that have the elongated holes where you can slide and adjust them will work for most skateboard trucks.
Roland Relatores ....what's up man ,been riding many many moons I ride 60 mm wheels with 1/8 or 1/4 inch never have had a problem with wheel bite because I use the correct bushings at the correct hardness....if you have to buckle the kingpin nut down to where the threads protrude five or six threads then your bushings are too soft.... Changing the entire geometry of the truck....
Any idea if riding a truck that's wider/narrower than the deck causes more wheel bite? Been getting bad wheel bite on a shaped board that's about 9.25 at the front and 8.38 towards the back on some Indy 169s. Wondering if this is the issue.
If the board is a much wider than the trucks, there is a lot more leverage on the edges of the board and it will make getting wheel bite easier. If it's narrower, there's less leverage and will make it harder to get wheelbite.
Since the deck is wide (I'm assuming it's pretty wide because it's an old school deck 😄), there's a lot of leverage on the side of the trucks, so I'd suggest a 1/4 inch riser. Unless you skate your trucks pretty tight, then you'd be ok with an 1/8 inch riser. ✌ - Tim
If you're gonna rock the 75mm OJ Thunder Juice wheels, I'd definitely recommend using two 1/2 inch risers. That set up is gonna mob!!! One thing to consider is that set up is going to be very tall, so every time you push you'll have to do a pretty deep one legged squat and you might get tired fairly quickly. But that set up should be able to handle dirt and bmx tracks as long as the dirt isn't too loose. Anyway, Cheers! 🍻 - Tim
An 1/8 inch riser should be enough, but it won't guarantee you won't get wheelbite. It also depends on how loose your trucks are. Even with 1/8 inch risers, if your trucks are floppy loose, you'll still be able to get wheelbite. So as long as your trucks aren't super loose then you should be fine. 👍 - Tim
Hi, I'm putting up together a setup. I'm worried I might get wheel bites. I'm getting a Tensor Mag Light Low and a Spitfire Lil Smokies Conical Full 51mm. The Trucks' height from baseplate to axle is 45.5, in theory I will end up with a 2mm or 0.0787" gap between the deck and the top of the wheel. I will be using some soft bushings. Now the question is, will that be enough gap so I don't get wheel bites, if not, will a 45mm wheels help? I will end up with a 2.3mm or 0.0905" gap if I use 45mm, I'd prefer not though as I don't like the shapes in that size. Thanks in advance!!
You're going to have much more than 2mm of wheelbite clearance because only half of the 51mm diameter of the wheel will be between the axle and the bottom of the deck. The other half of the wheel is between the axle and the ground. So if the height from the baseplate to the center of the axle is 45.5mm, and half of the wheel diameter is 25.5mm, then you should have 20mm of clearance which should be plenty. Cheers!👍🛹 - Tim
Not necessarily, they will give you a slightly steeper angle of pop which will make the upwards drag a little easier, but doing higher ollies mostly comes down to how high you can jump and suck your feet up. 🛹✈👍 - Tim
I have a board with 130mm trucks. I want to add 60mm cruiser wheels. However, I think I will get wheel bite so I'm going to add a 1/2 riser. What length hardware do I need and should i get a 1/4 riser.
1/2 inch risers might be a little overkill unless you run your trucks very loose. If your trucks are closer to medium tightness (not floppy) then you should be fine with 1/4 inch risers. If you go with the 1/2 inch risers you'll need 1 1/2 inch hardware, if you go with the 1/4 inch risers you'll need at least 1 1/8 inch hardware. I hope that answered your question! Cheers! - Tim
@@DIBADYASU I mean you could, but what fun is a cruiser that doesn't turn well? I personally have 55mm OJ Super Juice wheels with no risers and loose trucks and it's perfect. I use it to skate to work everyday. If you're gonna get 60mm wheels, I'd suggest at least 1/8 inch risers and have your trucks however you like them. - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Do you guys have an opinion about Mini Logo trucks? I just got some and had bad wheel bite problems without a riser. IMHO, they are too low. I have an 8" deck with the 8" trucks and 53mm wheels. I switched to my old Independent trucks and the problem when away. Though, those trucks are narrower than they should be because my old deck was a 7.75". Most likely, I will be sticking with Independents which I'm used to. I want to get some 8" ones. Hopefully, they will be as good as the narrower ones with regard to wheel bite.
@@idmhead0160 Were your MiniLogo trucks super loose? Independent trucks are going to be a higher quality truck anyway because that's what they do. They're a truck company. MiniLogo does price-point everything, so the quality isn't gonna be quite as good as a company that solely focuses on one type of product. As far as wheel biting with your MiniLogo trucks, you could have just put some 1/8 inch risers on them, tightened them a little and you probably would have been fine. But if those Indy's feel fine, then go for it! Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Hi Tim. Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. To begin with, the kingpin nut was basically up to the top. I like my trucks relatively loose, but, I tried progressively tightening them. It appeared that they would need to be way to tight to prevent wheel bite. I looked it up online. The Mini Logo trucks are 47.5mm high. Independents are 55mm. I don't see how anyone could skate Mini Logo trucks without a riser unless they like their trucks tightened down to the point where they barely turn. I ordered some 8" Independent Standards today (139s). I have my old, what I'm assuming are 129s on it now. They are about a quarter inch shorter than the deck on each side, but, other than that, work great. No wheel bite at all, and I'm able to carve and turn like crazy. Just how I like it. I'm hoping the wider trucks are similar. But, I also ordered some 1/8" risers and longer hardware just in case. I doubt I will need it though. But, I can use it with the Mini Logo trucks and see if I can get the to a usable state. Overall, I think the Mini Logo trucks aren't work messing with. You can get Independents for not much more money. Their bushing seem a lot better also. My old Indys are probably 19 years old, I think. And the bushings are still totally fine. Better than what looked like garbage on the Mini Logos. Their decks, wheels, and bearings don't seem to bad though. I'm happy with those.
"you dont have to go way down to 40mm" as if thats small for anyone other than a longboarder or vert rider but then they show like 15mm wheels lol. maaan i rode on 32s and 30s for so long XD idk why wheels have gotten so much bigger i was hesitant to even get 56's only did cause i got hi profile suspension trucks and they were ricta clouds, amazing wheels btw, and i STILL needed a 1/8th riser! AND STILL GET WHEELBITE even though they wore down to 50s after 3 years lol
The sizes of the riser pads vary a little from brand to brand and might not fit perfectly under the baseplate of another brand of truck. For example, Independent risers don't fit perfectly with Thunder trucks. They'll still technically work, but the baseplate hangs off the nose/tail end by about a 1/4 inch. So if you're unsure of the compatibility, you could always call up customer service and have them check for ya! I hope that helps! - Tim
You should be okay with 1/8 inch risers with 58mm wheels, but if you like your trucks super loose then you could go up to 1/4 inch risers to be safe. 👍
I ride krux trucks 8.0. But my friend gift me 1" Hardwere and 1/8 Riserpad.. but not installled yet.. how about that? If i instaled 1"harwere and 1/8 Riserpad.. does it work??
The extra width does give a little more leverage for turning which can lead to more wheelbite, but since the size difference is only 1/4 inch, you will be just fine with 7.75 trucks on an 8.0 deck. 👍
If you ride your trucks super loose, then it might be good to have them, but if your trucks are somewhere in the middle, you should be fine without them. 👍 - Tim
They are essentially the same, but shock pads are soft so they absorb a little bit of impact and a little bit of vibration so it doesn't feel as rough and slightly reduces speed wobbles. 👍
Unless you have a bearing press, the best way to get the bearing into your wheels is to set your deck on it's side and press the wheel down with your palms onto the truck axle. Here's a video that shows it. Cheers! - Tim ua-cam.com/video/l_F3eqG3qZ0/v-deo.html
Make sure it’s aligned too, the best way I make sure is by dropping down the wheel onto the axils. If it doesn’t drop down smoothly, even them out again and repeat. Don’t use lube to get them in, just clean your wheels if you have to, lube can potentially gunk up your bearings.
Use bearing spacers with all wheels from 1974 to the present day do not be a dumbass like most skaters have become overtime..... Seat bearings with spacers in wheel and tighten down fairly snug on axle nut ever-so-slightly then back off a full turn... Bearings will be seated properly in cored and non cored wheels....
The technique I've been using is find a socket that lines up with the size of the outside edge of the bearing and use it and a socket wrench to help press them into the wheel. I prefer to do that because I don't want to put a lot of pressure on the center of the bearing pushing it in.
Would risers be a bad idea on a penny board? I put them on along with bigger wheels on the original penny trucks. I'm worried I may be making a mistake
If you tighten your trucks waaaaay too much, then you won't be able to turn, and your bushings will get crushed by the washer and king pin nut. It's best to have your trucks where you are stable and can turn comfortably without getting wheel bite too easily. 👍 - Tim
Riser pads are not compatible with drop through longboards. You can use strip risers that go on the left and right sides of the truck, between the deck and baseplate, but doing so actually makes the board lower to the ground. But wheelbite shouldn't be a problem on you drop-through, so you don't need risers anyway. Cheers! - Tim
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I know most of this stuff, but I still really enjoy watching your videos and learning a few new things
I agree
Weird flex, but okay.
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Same
lol same
Wheel wells. In less than 15 minutes with a small 2-3" drum sander you can attach to any cordless drill, you can gain about a 1/4" of clearance depending on how thick your deck is and how aggressive you want to get. I do it to almost every deck I own, if they don't already come with them from the factory.
Same heree bro
i already know everything about board maintenance and standard customization like the difference between risers and shock pads in skating, yet i still watch these videos lol
I just switched from 52mm Spitfires with no riser to 56mm Spitfires with 1/8th riser. I skate super-tight trucks - so I didn't get risers for the wheelbite. I got the risers (and big wheels) 'cause I'd been having trouble with the area I skate it having asphalt on the rough side and getting caught up in the isolation gaps on concrete. It does seem to ride smoother and rolls over stuff easier - but an unexpected benefit was I seem to be able to pop the board up a good distance higher.
So not only are my ollies better, but being able to pop the board higher means there's more time for the board to spin during flips tricks and it's easier to complete the trick mid-air and catch it before landing - so your feet stop the board clean before the wheels touch the ground as opposed to having the wheels hit before your feet land.
Just something I noticed and I'm happy with the extra few mm of height.
same
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Love the vids guys. Sound advice and straight to the point. Just moved from 55mm wheels to 65mm on an 8" wide deck. Got any advice on riser sizes in relation to larger wheels? I skate mostly for transport but love bowls and mini ramps when I can find them. Aunty Corona has given us so much time and so I've skated more in the last few weeks than I have in the last decade. You never lose that feeling but farggg it's hurts a lot more
With some 65mm wheels, you'll need at least 1/4 inch risers, but you might want 1/2 inch risers (so tall!). If you don't want to go quite as big as 1/2", you could get a set of 1/4" and 1/8" risers and combine them for 3/8". I guess it just depends on how loose your trucks are. I hope you're having a blast out there! - Tim
Yo tactics you’re the best boardshop I’ve always gotten my orders on time and always exactly what I ordered thanks y’all
I'm kind of a chonker so i get wheel bite even when i'm going straight, to not have this problem i basically i had to put my front foot at the center of the board and it was real uncomfortable. Now thanks to this video I know what i have to do to solve this problem
I just bought Nikes from these guys and they added a bunch of cook stickers too. Great shop.
thank you. I'm the beginner and this help a lots.
Right now I’m trying to build a new board but it’s 8.1 inch so I’m still trying to figure all this stuff out with these little parts. Your videos are really helpful so thank you man
by the way i really am enjoying these i love the exaggerations in them too honestly keep up the wonderful work man!
Pretty much all regular riser pads will fit all trucks. They do not need to line up perfectly, as long as the rubber is located under the truck. Plenty of riser pads have six holes to account for different styles of trucks. I also think the combination of medium tightness trucks and properly sized wheels is the best way of dealing with wheel bite. Because no riser pad is really going to help you when trucks are so loose that you hit the board with the wheel a lot. A lot of people actually ride wheels that are too big for their setup (low truck, super soft bushings, loose truck setting, no riser pad, maybe soft wheels etc). I rarely ever get wheel bite and it usually only ever happens when I land on just one wheel. I do ride riser pads by the way, but only because the roads I tend to ride on are rough as hell.
Well said! 🔥
What kind of trucks are you using? Also, what size wheel? And deck/truck width? I tried Mini Logo trucks and found them to be horrible with regard to wheel bite. Too low. And I'm wondering of the geometry is a problem also. Switched to my old Indys. Problem gone. This is with 53mm wheels and an 8" deck.
I bought a 54mm set and I don't want to use risers or tighten the trucks, which is a substantial change, maybe wax is the solution, not risers because I like my set up and 1 mm increase is not a Big deal from 53. Thx 4 your videos, well Made as usual.
as soon as my shark wheels arrive im going to a skate shop and completing it, im so excited
I think riser pads create more pinch for crooks, front crooks etc.
you can also buy the boards with shaved wheel wells
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Straight to the point love it thanks dude 😎
I think one thing that will help with wheel bite is if truck manufacturers put the height of the truck in their spec sheets at skate shops. I just saw this with Indy Titaniums. The tag said 53.5mm high so at most I can put on there is 53mm. If I put 56mm wheels I'm going to need a riser.
Indys with the standard base plate are 55mm. The ones with the forged base plate are 53.5mm because the base plate isn't as tall. If you look on nhsfunfactory's website, they list the risers sizes you need for different wheel sizes. I think you need a 1/8" riser. I'm planning on getting some 58mm wheels. I'll see how that works out. Would be nice to not use a riser, but, I ride my trucks pretty loose. Hopefully, an 1/8" riser will be good enough. I'm not sure what you are saying about only being able to use 53mm wheels. Divide the wheel height in half. Only have the wheel is on the side of the axle near the board.
Thanks! Very informative! Just exactly what I was looking for!
I use to use those back in the day. Were very helpful.
its a known fact that if you take your washers out you can land every trick every try. do not research this
True... and it’s a myth that you need both trucks... just take that other one off... probably don’t have Even need both wheels on it
And all these people are like HoW tO ChOoSe a LoNGbOArd DeCK FoR DanCiNG. Like bro, you don’t need a deck
Its a myth that if you remove your deck, griptape, trucks, bearings, wheels, bushings, and hardware, your pop will increase by %70!!!
@@lgooch dancing lmao
if i have 58mm wheels, should i get the 1/4 or 1/8 independentement risers?
I’m currently riding thunder 148s and 52 F4 spitfires and i’m getting crazy wheel bite and i ride my trucks kinda tight🤦🏾♂️ thinking about getting risers but I may also just need to get used to my new setup. i just got back into skating and was riding some 8 year old sliver trucks and smaller spitfires before I bought this new set up
if you got cone/cone bushings and wheelbite, using barrel/cone bushings with the same hardness can also help preventing wheelbites
Excellent concise information 👍
Awesome video as usual. When does your store open back up?
Our stores are open for appointment, so if you call customer service and tell them when you want to be at the shop, then someone will be there to open the doors. Well... unless it's 2:00 AM 😆 - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Hell ya. I need to upgrade my old board from a trick board to a cruiser. All the skating I do these days is being pulled by my dog. I'm thinkin, new bearings, larger soft wheels.
i tried the smallest size riser pad... the timing was off it was so frustrating everything felt off....
soon as i took them off it felt sooo goooddddd
i don’t expect to get a reply, but here’s my issue.
i had a dope ass sector 9 cruiser. AMAZING!
well…my old friend took my longboard, took it apart, and then fucking painted it. so now i have to a) put it back together, or b) buy a new one and put THAT together. but the thing is, i truly don’t know much about longboards.
i got into it for the sole purpose of riding around my neighborhood, i never thought i’d lose the board i had and have to rebuild one so i didn’t really learn too much about it.
like i’m saying…i had a sick ass board.
the guy who gave it to me had risers on it but i have no idea how big they were. the longboard was suuuuper lifted though. like i could put my old school vans (for size visuals) underneath and they wouldn’t touch the top of the board lol. so i’m curious on how high it ‘might’ have been. i have some videos of it but they’re not too good…just quick little flashes of me riding pretty much. his board also made sharp, quick turns which is what i absolutely loved about it. how do you get sharp turns instead of long turns?? i can’t do the long turns LMFAO.
would a local shop be able to answer my questions?
The Ándale swiss with the sf wheels, I have the same set 💙
This is really helpful
My wheel hit my board and I fell on the stone ground and scraped my arm
Me too. Tried Mini Logo trucks. Too damn low without risers and 53mm wheels. Switched to my old Independents. Problem gone.
When should I consider buying new bushings? How beat up should they be ?
There's no "specific time" to replace your bushings, but if they are split and crushed to the point where they are making it hard for you to do your favorite tricks, or they flop from side to side without the truck turning like it should then it might be worth replacing them. I hope that helps! - Tim
50mm wheels + 1/8 risers + loose trucks = concrete surfing, it's incredible
I think you mean 60mm, 50mm is really small
Colin Johnson .... I hope he means 60 mm wheels because 50 mm wheels are a complete joke and entirely too..... Strictly a kids gimmick.....
What kind of trucks?
@@colinjohnson758 I went up to 52mm but yes the purpose of the wheels being small it allows you to have a steep turn.
What's the smallest riser I can get with 60mm wheels? 1/8?
I actually wanted to see exactly which side do you put the Indy riser pad on . Where it says it had the logo and name or just logo .Thank you
Tim’s a straight up G
I wanted to turn my skateboard to a cruise board so i got a 70mm wheels but i suffered with wheel bites so i was thinking instead if changing the wheels cause the wheels are so soft and comfy actually to get a riser pad what do u think?!!
Or should i change the truck also
The 19 dislikes are the people who get wheelbite
I have a 9 ply board. I want to get 1/8" risers, do I still get the 1.0" hardware or do I need a little more length?
Yep! I'd suggest going with at least some 1 1/8" hardware. 👍 - Tim
Tactics Boardshop Thank you!
Would they make my low trucks feel similar to mid trucks? Because I got a deck from element but I went up a size from 8.25 to an 8.38 and the only trucks that fit are these low hollow ventures I really liked the thunder mids I had on my other board.
Would you recommend putting slanted risers (angled) on a regular skateboard deck if you are planning to use it as a cruiser with 60mm wheels
I don't see any issues with putting slated risers on a cruiser. 👍- Tim
Hi! I’m a new skater and I have trick wheels. The thing is, I want to cruise more so I bought 60mm, soft, cruising wheels. I have a 9 ply deck. How high should the risers be so I can avoid wheel bite.
With 60mm soft wheels, you should be fine with 1/8 inch risers, but you could also go with some 1/4 inch risers if you like your trucks looser. Then you'll have to get longer hardware to accommodate for the riser and the extra thick deck (9 ply). If you have 1/8 inch risers you'll need at least 1 1/8 inch hardware, and if you get 1/4 inch risers, you'll need at least 1 1/4 inch risers. Obviously risers aren't a guarantee that you won't get wheelbite, but it significantly helps. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop thank you
Hey, I'm not sure what size board I have (as it was handed to me) but it's most likely the average complete size.
I want to get 60mm wheels but I'm not sure what size riser do I need. Any recommendations?
Thanks
The size of the board isn't going to make a difference on what size risers you should get, but if you're getting 60mm wheels, you'll probably want at least 1/8 inch risers. If you like super loose trucks, then you might want 1/4 inch risers just in case. If you get some risers make sure you get long enough hardware to accommodate for them. 0:56 Cheers! - Tim
Came cause twice iv bought risers and got confused on why the risers had a lip sticking out and weren't the exact size of the truck base.
GG, i just ordered indy risers for my thunder trucks smh! which risers do i need?!?!
I mean, the Indy risers will go on the Thunder trucks, but they'll stick out on one side a little more than the other. Thunder made their own risers for a hot minute, but I haven't seen any in a while. I know Lucky and Bones risers will fit perfectly on Thunder trucks. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop I found a place selling thunder risers and already ordered a few pairs, thanks for replying as well as the suggestions of other risers that fit :)
As im recovering from my meniscus surgery. Im going to ask my local skateshop if they have soft risers for that shock obsorbant
A more cushioned shoe helps too.
Can you combine/stack a riser with a shock pad and does it matter which one touches the deck and which touches the baseplate? Thanks
I don't see any reason why you couldn't stack a riser and a shock pad together. Also, I don't think it matters which one goes on top or bottom because the shock pad will still absorb vibrations wherever it is. 👍
If that pads don’t line up and the truck overhangs a bit, does it make a real difference aside from looking kind of ugly?
You'll be fine, if they're a little bit off it's not going to negatively affect you. 👍
Very useful 👌👍
If you use 4" penny board trucks and riser pads you can use longboard wheels on a cruiser board deck
Can I stack two 1/8" risers, or should I just get a 1/4"?
If so, can I combine shock risers with standard hard risers?
You can totally stack two 1/4 inch risers with no issues. 👍🛹
The most comprehensive vid on risers out there???
I ahve a pair of fury trunks but im missing the pivit cups i cant find anywhere there bigger then the newer trunks
Hi I’m a beginner. I’ve got 54mm wheels and 3mm riser and get wheel bite. My skateboard looks much lower than others. I want to get a 6mm riser but want to ask if I can stack two 3mm risers on top of each other?
You can definitely stack risers on each other. Just make sure you have long enough hardware bolts to reach through both of them. 👍 - Tim
Except the wheel bite, does risers 1/8 help absorb landing a little if you got bad knees or is the difference nothing significant if you don't skate big stairs or so?
The hard plastic risers won't absorb any impact, but the soft rubber shock pads can soak up a little bit but the difference isn't going to be drastic. They're mainly for absorbing vibrations to give you a smoother ride, but every little bit counts right? - Tim
I have some 58mm wheels what size of riser pads should I buy
You should be ok with just 1/8 inch risers. But if you like your trucks super loose, then you could go up to 1/4 inch. Make sure you get hardware that's long enough for them too! Cheers! - Tim
Most skaters who use Thunder Trucks don't seem to use riser pads. What's the reason?
Do you have used skate supplies
Would shock absorbers reduce noise while riding on rough terrain?
They do absorb some of the sound, but it's very subtle. It kind of makes the board and bearings sound hollow and lower pitch if that makes any sense. - Tim
I have 50mm wheels and I think low trucks. I'm not sure how to measure the hardness of them on my own but I think they're on the semi-hard side of things. I've been wanting to get cruiser wheels for street skating. Thing is, I don't want to get too big of wheels, or too soft/hard where it's not efficient and I waste my money. What should I get/do?
If you just get some cruiser wheels in the 78a - 86a range, you can get any size and it will still be smooth. If you get some in the 52 - 55mm range you won't need any risers to keep from getting wheelbite. Cheers! - Tim
I have a 7 ply deck with 60mm wheels, and I am wondering if 1/4" risers with 1 1/4" hardware high enough so I dont get wheels bite, or should I get 1/2" risers and 1 1/2" hardware? And do krux trucks fit the independent risers?
1/4" risers with 1 1/4" hardware will work and should be enough clearance, unless your trucks are crazy loose. The Indy riser will fit on the Krux trucks, but they don't line up perfectly. I'm pretty sure that Lucky and Pig risers fit Krux trucks better. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshopon your shopping page there are no 1/4" pig risers or lucky risers but you have Krooked risers do those work?
@@rolandrelatores647 Yes, the Krooked risers will work. Any of the risers that have the elongated holes where you can slide and adjust them will work for most skateboard trucks.
Roland Relatores ....what's up man ,been riding many many moons I ride 60 mm wheels with 1/8 or 1/4 inch never have had a problem with wheel bite because I use the correct bushings at the correct hardness....if you have to buckle the kingpin nut down to where the threads protrude five or six threads then your bushings are too soft.... Changing the entire geometry of the truck....
Any idea if riding a truck that's wider/narrower than the deck causes more wheel bite? Been getting bad wheel bite on a shaped board that's about 9.25 at the front and 8.38 towards the back on some Indy 169s. Wondering if this is the issue.
If the board is a much wider than the trucks, there is a lot more leverage on the edges of the board and it will make getting wheel bite easier. If it's narrower, there's less leverage and will make it harder to get wheelbite.
Hi i have question what size should i use on some indy 159mm on a old school late 80's deck i bought some 59mm 80a wheels
Since the deck is wide (I'm assuming it's pretty wide because it's an old school deck 😄), there's a lot of leverage on the side of the trucks, so I'd suggest a 1/4 inch riser. Unless you skate your trucks pretty tight, then you'd be ok with an 1/8 inch riser. ✌ - Tim
wax seems the best option
What about 75mm OJ’s on a old school style deck. Could I double up on 1/2” riser pads for cruisin??
If you're gonna rock the 75mm OJ Thunder Juice wheels, I'd definitely recommend using two 1/2 inch risers. That set up is gonna mob!!! One thing to consider is that set up is going to be very tall, so every time you push you'll have to do a pretty deep one legged squat and you might get tired fairly quickly. But that set up should be able to handle dirt and bmx tracks as long as the dirt isn't too loose. Anyway, Cheers! 🍻 - Tim
If I have 57mm wheels will a 1/8in riser be good to guarantee I don’t get wheel bite?
An 1/8 inch riser should be enough, but it won't guarantee you won't get wheelbite. It also depends on how loose your trucks are. Even with 1/8 inch risers, if your trucks are floppy loose, you'll still be able to get wheelbite. So as long as your trucks aren't super loose then you should be fine. 👍 - Tim
Would it be more expensive just to get higher trucks because I have low trucks?
Yes, it would be significantly cheaper to get some risers rather than investing in some taller trucks. 👍 - Tim
Can you stack risers and shock pads? Ie getting 2 1/4 risers or one 1/4 riser and one 1/4 shock pad?
Definitely! Just make sure you have long enough hardware for all of the risers. Cheers! - Tim
Hi, I'm using 54mm wheels and Thunder 148 high trucks. Do i need risers?
You should be good. Unless you skate your trucks SUPER loose, then you might want some 1/8 risers. Cheers! - Tim
Hi, I'm putting up together a setup. I'm worried I might get wheel bites. I'm getting a Tensor Mag Light Low and a Spitfire Lil Smokies Conical Full 51mm. The Trucks' height from baseplate to axle is 45.5, in theory I will end up with a 2mm or 0.0787" gap between the deck and the top of the wheel. I will be using some soft bushings.
Now the question is, will that be enough gap so I don't get wheel bites, if not, will a 45mm wheels help?
I will end up with a 2.3mm or 0.0905" gap if I use 45mm, I'd prefer not though as I don't like the shapes in that size.
Thanks in advance!!
You're going to have much more than 2mm of wheelbite clearance because only half of the 51mm diameter of the wheel will be between the axle and the bottom of the deck. The other half of the wheel is between the axle and the ground. So if the height from the baseplate to the center of the axle is 45.5mm, and half of the wheel diameter is 25.5mm, then you should have 20mm of clearance which should be plenty. Cheers!👍🛹 - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop what a legend!!! 🔥🔥🔥 Thanks a lot Tim!!!! 👍
Do the Shock absorbing risers dampen pop at all? Thanks
Nope, the pop comes entirely from the rebound of the wood, so any riser won't make a difference in the pop. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop perfect! Thanks for the reply, I’ll make a purchase from you guys. Appreciate the Content 👊🏻🛹
Can I put Revenge brand LB trucks onto a fat cruiser board? I will probably need risers. 🤔
As long as the hardware holes line up, then yes! You wouldn't necessarily need risers unless you were using gigantic wheels. Cheers! - Tim
Do riserpads help to perform a higher ollie ?
Not necessarily, they will give you a slightly steeper angle of pop which will make the upwards drag a little easier, but doing higher ollies mostly comes down to how high you can jump and suck your feet up. 🛹✈👍 - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop thanks, have a nice day peace :)
I have a board with 130mm trucks. I want to add 60mm cruiser wheels. However, I think I will get wheel bite so I'm going to add a 1/2 riser. What length hardware do I need and should i get a 1/4 riser.
1/2 inch risers might be a little overkill unless you run your trucks very loose. If your trucks are closer to medium tightness (not floppy) then you should be fine with 1/4 inch risers. If you go with the 1/2 inch risers you'll need 1 1/2 inch hardware, if you go with the 1/4 inch risers you'll need at least 1 1/8 inch hardware. I hope that answered your question! Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop What if I dont run any risers . I could try and make my trucks as stiff as possible.
@@DIBADYASU I mean you could, but what fun is a cruiser that doesn't turn well? I personally have 55mm OJ Super Juice wheels with no risers and loose trucks and it's perfect. I use it to skate to work everyday. If you're gonna get 60mm wheels, I'd suggest at least 1/8 inch risers and have your trucks however you like them. - Tim
Can I use riser and shock pad together ?
Yep! You can combine them any way you like. Just remember to get hardware long enough to accommodate both together. 👍 - Tim
What riser pad size is good for 60mm wheels on a mini cruiser?
With 60mm wheels, you would probably be okay with 1/8" risers. But if you ride looser trucks, then you should go with 1/4" risers. Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Do you guys have an opinion about Mini Logo trucks? I just got some and had bad wheel bite problems without a riser. IMHO, they are too low. I have an 8" deck with the 8" trucks and 53mm wheels. I switched to my old Independent trucks and the problem when away. Though, those trucks are narrower than they should be because my old deck was a 7.75". Most likely, I will be sticking with Independents which I'm used to. I want to get some 8" ones. Hopefully, they will be as good as the narrower ones with regard to wheel bite.
@@idmhead0160 Were your MiniLogo trucks super loose? Independent trucks are going to be a higher quality truck anyway because that's what they do. They're a truck company. MiniLogo does price-point everything, so the quality isn't gonna be quite as good as a company that solely focuses on one type of product. As far as wheel biting with your MiniLogo trucks, you could have just put some 1/8 inch risers on them, tightened them a little and you probably would have been fine. But if those Indy's feel fine, then go for it! Cheers! - Tim
@@tacticsboardshop Hi Tim. Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. To begin with, the kingpin nut was basically up to the top. I like my trucks relatively loose, but, I tried progressively tightening them. It appeared that they would need to be way to tight to prevent wheel bite. I looked it up online. The Mini Logo trucks are 47.5mm high. Independents are 55mm. I don't see how anyone could skate Mini Logo trucks without a riser unless they like their trucks tightened down to the point where they barely turn. I ordered some 8" Independent Standards today (139s). I have my old, what I'm assuming are 129s on it now. They are about a quarter inch shorter than the deck on each side, but, other than that, work great. No wheel bite at all, and I'm able to carve and turn like crazy. Just how I like it. I'm hoping the wider trucks are similar. But, I also ordered some 1/8" risers and longer hardware just in case. I doubt I will need it though. But, I can use it with the Mini Logo trucks and see if I can get the to a usable state. Overall, I think the Mini Logo trucks aren't work messing with. You can get Independents for not much more money. Their bushing seem a lot better also. My old Indys are probably 19 years old, I think. And the bushings are still totally fine. Better than what looked like garbage on the Mini Logos. Their decks, wheels, and bearings don't seem to bad though. I'm happy with those.
Thanks helpfull
Do i need a riser for 55mm wheels with tight trucks ?
You should be fine without them for that set up. 👍
"you dont have to go way down to 40mm" as if thats small for anyone other than a longboarder or vert rider but then they show like 15mm wheels lol. maaan i rode on 32s and 30s for so long XD idk why wheels have gotten so much bigger i was hesitant to even get 56's only did cause i got hi profile suspension trucks and they were ricta clouds, amazing wheels btw, and i STILL needed a 1/8th riser! AND STILL GET WHEELBITE even though they wore down to 50s after 3 years lol
Do riser pads have a universal size like surface area wise?
The sizes of the riser pads vary a little from brand to brand and might not fit perfectly under the baseplate of another brand of truck. For example, Independent risers don't fit perfectly with Thunder trucks. They'll still technically work, but the baseplate hangs off the nose/tail end by about a 1/4 inch. So if you're unsure of the compatibility, you could always call up customer service and have them check for ya! I hope that helps! - Tim
what sized rizers will i need if i have 58 mm wheels?
You should be okay with 1/8 inch risers with 58mm wheels, but if you like your trucks super loose then you could go up to 1/4 inch risers to be safe. 👍
Would angled risers work with a landyachtz dinghy?
Yep, they'd work!
if i get a 55 should i be worried about wheel bite or am i good?? i skate pretty tight trucks*
You should be ok. 👍
I ride krux trucks 8.0. But my friend gift me 1" Hardwere and 1/8 Riserpad.. but not installled yet.. how about that? If i instaled 1"harwere and 1/8 Riserpad.. does it work??
Yes. Assuming you have just a regular 7-ply deck, the 1" hardware with 1/8" risers will fit exactly. Cheers! - Tim
my trucks are 7.75 inch and my new deck is 8 inch. does that causes wheelbite???
The extra width does give a little more leverage for turning which can lead to more wheelbite, but since the size difference is only 1/4 inch, you will be just fine with 7.75 trucks on an 8.0 deck. 👍
@@tacticsboardshop ok thanks👍👍!!!!!
should i buy risers even though i ride 54mm wheels?
If you ride your trucks super loose, then it might be good to have them, but if your trucks are somewhere in the middle, you should be fine without them. 👍 - Tim
are Risers and Shock Pads are the same ?
They are essentially the same, but shock pads are soft so they absorb a little bit of impact and a little bit of vibration so it doesn't feel as rough and slightly reduces speed wobbles. 👍
Shock pads for Thunders? Nothing fits just right. 8(
I tighten my trucks as tight as possible and im still getting wheel bite any idea what going on?
How big are your wheels and do you have riser pads?
@@tacticsboardshop nvm i just put smaller wheels on my board. But thanks for responding
I have a question whats an easy way to make sure my bearings go inside my wheels they get stuck and dont go all the way down and dont move as well
Unless you have a bearing press, the best way to get the bearing into your wheels is to set your deck on it's side and press the wheel down with your palms onto the truck axle. Here's a video that shows it. Cheers! - Tim
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Make sure it’s aligned too, the best way I make sure is by dropping down the wheel onto the axils. If it doesn’t drop down smoothly, even them out again and repeat.
Don’t use lube to get them in, just clean your wheels if you have to, lube can potentially gunk up your bearings.
Use bearing spacers with all wheels from 1974 to the present day do not be a dumbass like most skaters have become overtime..... Seat bearings with spacers in wheel and tighten down fairly snug on axle nut ever-so-slightly then back off a full turn... Bearings will be seated properly in cored and non cored wheels....
The technique I've been using is find a socket that lines up with the size of the outside edge of the bearing and use it and a socket wrench to help press them into the wheel. I prefer to do that because I don't want to put a lot of pressure on the center of the bearing pushing it in.
Would risers be a bad idea on a penny board? I put them on along with bigger wheels on the original penny trucks. I'm worried I may be making a mistake
what can happen if I tighten the trucks too much?
If you tighten your trucks waaaaay too much, then you won't be able to turn, and your bushings will get crushed by the washer and king pin nut. It's best to have your trucks where you are stable and can turn comfortably without getting wheel bite too easily. 👍 - Tim
Does anyone make a 3 1/2" length riser to actually fit nicely with my longboard trucks ? Caliber II Fifty Longboard Trucks 10.0 axle
Sector 9 makes risers that should fit nicely on those trucks. Cheers! - Tim
www.tactics.com/sector-9/skateboard-risers
Get harder bushings
Always check your pivot cups
Get smaller wheels
Wax (it could help)
Wax the underside of the deck where your wheel will "bite" and your worries shall disappear.
Anyone else here the start of the ultra instinct theme in the intro ? Like before he started talking
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What if I have a drop through?
Riser pads are not compatible with drop through longboards. You can use strip risers that go on the left and right sides of the truck, between the deck and baseplate, but doing so actually makes the board lower to the ground. But wheelbite shouldn't be a problem on you drop-through, so you don't need risers anyway. Cheers! - Tim
Tactics Boardshop actually I get some wheel but when I try to carve very tightly so I think I’ll go with the option of tightening my trucks