Small Angle Approximations (1 of 4: Proof)

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  • @kkanden
    @kkanden 5 років тому +8

    *ENGINEERING INTENSIFIES*

  • @maroctech761
    @maroctech761 5 років тому +7

    Eddie you are the Teacher of teachers !
    Thank you

    • @madshothd3452
      @madshothd3452 3 роки тому

      he fucked up tho, cause 0 is sin0 which is tan0 throw approximations

  • @sukhmankahlon3496
    @sukhmankahlon3496 Рік тому

    genuinely so amazing, I hope the best for this teacher

  • @MattColler
    @MattColler 5 років тому +18

    I normally love Eddie's videos, but this one gets it quite wrong.
    He fails to point out that θ (in radians) is equal to the arc-length divided by the radius (i.e. *not* an arbitrary way of measuring angle). And for small angles, this arc-length becomes very close to the opposite-side-length, h.
    Therefore, arc-length/r ≈ h/r ≈ h/(r-x)
    In other words, θ ≈ sinθ ≈ tanθ.

    • @joshuaronisjr
      @joshuaronisjr 5 років тому

      Right. Via his same argument, theta * 10 is also approaching 0, and then sin(theta) would be approximately equal to theta * 10, which it obviously isn't.

    • @Chris-hn4lp
      @Chris-hn4lp 2 роки тому +2

      @@joshuaronisjr This isn't his argument, this is an accepted mathematical proof thats used regularly. He was just demonstrating it. You're seeming to neglect that theta is considered to be infinitely small.

    • @joshuaronisjr
      @joshuaronisjr 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@Chris-hn4lp When he says that sin(theta) = theta for small theta, he does so by saying that they both become infinitely small. Take the example of z=4x and y=x, where x is variable. As x comes infinitely close to 0 (and indeed, all the time - but that misses the point) we could say that z and y both approach 0. But we wouldn't say that z=y as x goes to 0. No, we would say that z=4y. The same thing with theta - just because theta and sin(theta) both go to 0, that doesn't mean that they can be considered equal for infinitely small theta (I'm not saying that they don't approximate one another - I'm just saying his argument isn't enough). As another example take z=e^(2x) and y=e^(x). As x goes to 0, z is approximately 2 times y, even though they both go to 0.

  • @marsch000
    @marsch000 5 років тому

    May I have the link to part two of the teaching?

  • @llcstudios1846
    @llcstudios1846 4 роки тому +2

    For those who are interested, you can use the same setup to prove that theta is approx sin theta by considering that the area of the triangle approaches the area of the sector as theta approaches 0. So you have 1/2r^2theta = 1/2(r-x)h. We can cancel out the half and as theta -> 0, x->0, so we can set x = 0. Therefore, r^2theta = rh. So rtheta = h. But we know, h = rsintheta, therefore, rtheta = rsintheta which implies theta = sintheta for small angles of theta.

    • @jasminfinity7024
      @jasminfinity7024 3 роки тому +1

      LLC Studios or as theta tends to 0 h ~ arc length so h=r theta therefore r theta =rsin theta cancelling the r gives theta=sintheta

  • @michaelmoreno3730
    @michaelmoreno3730 5 років тому +16

    I’m watching this for fun.

  • @sergioh5515
    @sergioh5515 5 років тому +1

    I thought you were going to use maclaurin series for this one but this is good too

  • @vign1155
    @vign1155 5 років тому

    Can you please help me in taking the coordinates in matrix form??

  • @MS-sv1tr
    @MS-sv1tr 7 місяців тому

    Being a math teacher must be brutal. It's hard enough when the students actually want to learn, but when the first question they always ask is "when am I ever going to use this", you're fighting a losing battle. I almost think mandatory math education might be a bad idea. If classes were small and only had motivated and interested students, that could only be a good thing, imo

  • @pratikraj3697
    @pratikraj3697 5 років тому +2

    Sir, you are great...
    I want to meet you personally in India.

  • @agildashdamirli9812
    @agildashdamirli9812 8 місяців тому

    Perfect explanation . Thanks

  • @afrozshaik7941
    @afrozshaik7941 3 роки тому

    Crazy. Excellent teacher. Beyong words.

  • @em8136
    @em8136 4 роки тому

    Watching this in 4k is soo good

  • @amankumarsingh6744
    @amankumarsingh6744 5 років тому

    Awesome sir

  • @praveenmaxy7200
    @praveenmaxy7200 5 років тому +1

    I am looking 30yo sir I have learned all these at my school...But now I understand maths..U made me see maths

  • @zuccx99
    @zuccx99 5 років тому +9

    Another part of the fundamental theorem of engineering.
    That sin(theta)=theta.

    • @Chris-hn4lp
      @Chris-hn4lp 2 роки тому

      Yeah, I was struggling to understand why in vibrations we were equating sin theta to theta and this video made it perfectly clear.

  • @abdullahsafarini8422
    @abdullahsafarini8422 5 років тому +1

    Great visualization of it. I also want to ask if you could explain later on why pie is the same for big and small circles.

    • @surrealisticinfinity2895
      @surrealisticinfinity2895 5 років тому +1

      Pie is the same for all circles because that number is the relation between the circles diameter and the circumference of the same circle. In a perfect circle there will always be pi numbers of diameters around the circumference no matter how big or small it is.

  • @zurgno6781
    @zurgno6781 5 років тому +8

    Why does it look like you're doing the nae nae in the thumbnail 😂😂

  • @arvindgupta7798
    @arvindgupta7798 5 років тому

    Osm explanation sir

  • @mohdishaq9250
    @mohdishaq9250 2 роки тому

    Nice lecture

  • @gldanoob3639
    @gldanoob3639 4 роки тому

    You haven't stated the proof completely yet. If sin x, tan x approaches 0 as x tends to 0 implies sin x, tan x could be approximated to the same thing for small x, then since x/100, 2x, x^100000000000000 all approaches 0 as x tends to 0, can't you also say that they are basically the same thing at x near 0?
    You have to also proof that, the rate of which the difference between sin x, tan x and x shrinks is much higher than that of which sin x shrinks, in other words, the limit of (sin x - x)/x is 0 as x tends to 0

  • @jeraldabecia8394
    @jeraldabecia8394 5 років тому

    Another Video for another math tutorial.
    ❤💙💚💜💛

  • @user-yf2gx4ce1z
    @user-yf2gx4ce1z 3 роки тому

    Wow.

  • @nguyenduychuc9388
    @nguyenduychuc9388 Рік тому

    NGUYÊN TV chúc bạn thành công

  • @gloriosatierra
    @gloriosatierra 5 років тому +1

    I like how your videos abruptly end, like if a limit exist. 🌿

  • @antonyzhilin
    @antonyzhilin 5 років тому

    If the limits are the same, the functions are the same, wat?
    If there was ~= 0 at the end, I'd understand, but in-between relationship isn't implied

    • @Jack_Frost
      @Jack_Frost 5 років тому

      If the limits as x approaches 0 of f(x) and g(x) are the same (let's call this limit a), then f(x) ~= g(x) as x approaches a.
      For example, take f(x)=x and g(x)=x^2. When x approaches 0, f(x)~=0 and g(x)~=0 , so we can say that f(x)~=g(x) when you get close enough to 0

    • @antonyzhilin
      @antonyzhilin 5 років тому

      Jack Frost I see. I'm just used to equivalence meaning “same order”, i.e. f(x) / g(x) -> 1

    • @Jack_Frost
      @Jack_Frost 5 років тому

      @@antonyzhilin if f(x) / g(x) -> 1, multiply by g(x) on both sides and you have f(x) -> g(x), so when you approach a certain value of x, the two functions are equal

    • @antonyzhilin
      @antonyzhilin 5 років тому

      @@Jack_Frost Your definition is weaker. For example, take f = 2x, g = x. Then lim f(x) = lim g(x) = 0, but lim (f(x) / g(x)) =/= 1. So to prove sin(x) ~ tan(x) ~ x in one sense is significantly easier than the other

    • @MattColler
      @MattColler 5 років тому

      ​@@Jack_Frost You're quite wrong here. In fact, f(x)=x *does not* approximate g(x)=x^2 for small values of x.
      Try it out: f(0.01) = 0.01 but g(0.01) = 0.0001 - different by two orders of magnitude!
      Eddie Woo's derivation of the small-angle approximations is also wrong. It is insufficient to merely show that all three functions approach zero - you need to show that they do so with 1:1 proportionality. After all, the angle measured in degrees also approaches zero, but this is not a good approximation for sin θ.

  • @thomaskim5394
    @thomaskim5394 5 років тому +1

    You stated that sin theta approaches 0 as theta approaches 0. But that does not necessary mean sin theta approximately equals theta for small theta. You need more convincing proof for that. Again go back to the calculus for that part. Using the Taylor series of sin, sin theta is approximately equals theta for small theta.

    • @MattColler
      @MattColler 5 років тому

      You don't need calculus, just the fact that θ (in radians) is the arc-length around the circle divided by the radius. For small angles, the length 'h' in Eddie's diagram becomes comparable to the arc-length. So h/r = sin θ approximates arc-length/r = θ

    • @thomaskim5394
      @thomaskim5394 5 років тому

      @@MattColler That is the point. Mr. Woo does not explain even though many calculus textbooks explain only using geometry.

    • @MattColler
      @MattColler 5 років тому

      Thomas Kim yes, I was meaning to agree with you that Mr Woo‘s explanation here is incomplete.
      My point is that you can explain it properly without venturing anywhere near calculus (which these students haven’t covered yet) - let alone Taylor series, which is well beyond that.

    • @llcstudios1846
      @llcstudios1846 4 роки тому

      @@thomaskim5394 Also by using calculus you defeat the point of small angle approx like this. This is needed to find the derivatives of sine and cosine which find the Taylor series for themselves.

    • @thomaskim5394
      @thomaskim5394 4 роки тому

      @@llcstudios1846 Read my other commitments about the Calculus textbook. Many Calculus textbooks have a great and complete proof without using Calculus. The proof in the video is not complete.

  • @_slvya1647
    @_slvya1647 Рік тому

    SinA = A = tanA = A, cosA = 1

  • @shishirmaharana4022
    @shishirmaharana4022 4 роки тому +1

    Any Physics students here?

  • @alphanost806
    @alphanost806 5 років тому

    Sin x / x = 1 as x -> 0
    But i didn't knew for tan, it's quite obvious know ^^'

  • @orbitalstrikr
    @orbitalstrikr 5 років тому

    First

  • @enderium9651
    @enderium9651 5 років тому

    First