Both are manufactured by the same company (Kamakura Japan) The differences are the result of each "brand" requesting their own individual specifications Not sure about the firmware though, whether it's developed by Kite and Sig themselves or Kamakura giving a list of options The Kite is definitely better than the older non HDX Sig I have the 16x models from both manufacturers Bought the Sig for the target node and lighter weight Going to try out the new Kite 18x50 production model this weekend and compare it width my Sig 16x42 HDX. Six months ago I was already able to test a prototype of the 18x50 Resolution was a bit better than my Canon 18x50 and definitely better than my Kite 12x42 but not as good as my Canon 10x42 The stabilization didn't work satisfyingly imo, lots of vertical wobble but could be because it was a prototype specimen since the14x50 version didn't have that problem. Will report back next week, if it blows away the Sig and the Canon, I will order one
@jeanpaulceulemans9973 thanks for the info! We've been testing and using the new 18x50s this season and have been super impressed. Definitely an upgrade optically from the original APC. Let me.know what you think!
Don't worry about battery consumption. I have used the Kite 16x42 every weekend for almost a year now and still use the same battery set. Next time, no spare batteries will be used (at least not in the first half of the year).
Hi mate, I currently have zeiss victory 10x25 binos which I love. The image quality is great. I recently moved to a Scottish island where eagles/deer and various wildlife is plentiful. I am wanting a new pair of premium binos to enjoy the views. How do you find the image quality on your kite bino's?
@themarksmanABP hey there! Overall, image stabilized binos simply aren't as good as the premium binos like those Victory you have. That said, the nee Kite EDs we've been testing are outstanding. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit hey guys, literally just come across the new 50's... Have you got a vid of them? How do they stand up in image quality to what I'm used too? I don't mind a little less IQ if you get quality IS and 18x mag lol. Most of my uses are we go driving round the island and come across wildlife all the time, I'd leave them in the car
@themarksmanABP awesome! We haven't published our review of the Kite ED 50s, but I have been using them all season and they are very very good. A downgrade vs something like the Zeiss Victory or Swaro NL Pure, but the stabilization is excellent and if you are on the move, they are a fantastic option. I'd definitely recommend them. Thanks!
I would love a review on the 50 mm objective Kite. It looks like it's just coming out now to a few stores. Interested if if the low light characteristics are much improved and if the IS is better as well. By any chance will you be reviewing this product?
Hey! Thanks for the heads up. I realized I had a technical issue after the video was published...ugh! It plays in both speakers/headphones if done on a computer, but sometimes not on a phone. Sorry!
@@BackwoodsPursuit no worries. I got so sick of it happening to me on my own videos I reset my timeline defaults to mono 🙈 surprisingly very few instances where I actually have stereo recordings.
@wildfoodoutdoors agreed! Yeah, I changed my mic settings etc to correct it LOL. So frustrating as it plays normally on my computer and in headphones on the computers, just not on headphones when on your phone.
Hi. Not sure if you have a chance to do a FOV of SIG 10x30 vs 12x42. I have the 12x42 and find the FOV too narrow sometimes. The 10x30 is 5.2 degree vs 3.8 on the 12x42. I want to get the 10x30 but because the EP is only 3, I'm afraid it will be hard to get perfect view without blackout. On the 42 I do experienced imperfect view and need frequent adjusting and on the 30 it may be worse? Any thoughts?
Hey there! Thanks for the question. I can't say that I noticed a big difference in that way between the 10x30s and 12x42s, but I also wasn't specifically looking for that difference. The 10x30s were noticeably worse in low light as you can imaging with that much smaller EP. Thanks for watching!
@hubbs478 hey! Yeah, it's tough to get them all, but those Kite ED 50mm models came out after this review was done. We are testing them now! Thanks for watching!
Hey there! I believe the most any of them have is 17mm of eye relief. The specific eye relief of each is mentioned in the video though. Thanks for watching!
great review, thanks for sharing your experience with these binoculars, i have the canon 18x50,,12x36 v.3 and the 10x30 v.2 , i’ve been a backyard astronomer and birder over 40 years now, i’ve had some great telescopes and binoculars over that time, my question is on the objective lenses, i see they are not round and looks like they are flat where the two objective lenses, or closest to each other in the center of the binocular, i do know you still get a perfect circle just like the binoculars that have completely round lenses for the objective lenses, so does that make them smaller than the 42mm lenses that they are or does those flat spots on the lenses don’t make a difference ?? hopefully i explained it correctly, just never seen objective lenses with flat spots on the edges on the one side ?? thanks, ken. i’ve been using the 3 canons since 2018 with no problems and they are awesome.
@ken-ec9wv hey there! Yeah that makes sense. Like you said, the field of view is still round, but I'm not 100% sure how the lens size is measured with that flat spot in the center. Good question but I don't have an answer on that one. Sorry!
@kevinmartin2096 hey there! Yeah, I just called to confirm that Sig has now changed their warranty as of roughly 60 days ago (so after this video was made) so that these stabilized binoculars fall under their "Infinite Guarantee". That's super cool that they upgraded from the prior warranty. Thanks for watching and pointing that out!
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SIG should implement button instead of flipping switch to change mode. Flip to turn on, push button to toggle between scan and target mode.
Hey! Yeah, I think that would be a nice improvement I think. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the comparison video! I hope you review Kite’s new APC 50 soon.
Absolutely! We are actually testing them out right now. Thanks for watching!
Both are manufactured by the same company (Kamakura Japan) The differences are the result of each "brand" requesting their own individual specifications Not sure about the firmware though, whether it's developed by Kite and Sig themselves or Kamakura giving a list of options
The Kite is definitely better than the older non HDX Sig
I have the 16x models from both manufacturers Bought the Sig for the target node and lighter weight
Going to try out the new Kite 18x50 production model this weekend and compare it width my Sig 16x42 HDX. Six months ago I was already able to test a prototype of the 18x50
Resolution was a bit better than my Canon 18x50 and definitely better than my Kite 12x42 but not as good as my Canon 10x42
The stabilization didn't work satisfyingly imo, lots of vertical wobble but could be because it was a prototype specimen since the14x50 version didn't have that problem. Will report back next week, if it blows away the Sig and the Canon, I will order one
@jeanpaulceulemans9973 thanks for the info! We've been testing and using the new 18x50s this season and have been super impressed. Definitely an upgrade optically from the original APC. Let me.know what you think!
Don't worry about battery consumption. I have used the Kite 16x42 every weekend for almost a year now and still use the same battery set. Next time, no spare batteries will be used (at least not in the first half of the year).
@w.vangelder108 thanks for the insight!
Hi mate, I currently have zeiss victory 10x25 binos which I love. The image quality is great. I recently moved to a Scottish island where eagles/deer and various wildlife is plentiful. I am wanting a new pair of premium binos to enjoy the views.
How do you find the image quality on your kite bino's?
@themarksmanABP hey there! Overall, image stabilized binos simply aren't as good as the premium binos like those Victory you have. That said, the nee Kite EDs we've been testing are outstanding. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit hey guys, literally just come across the new 50's... Have you got a vid of them? How do they stand up in image quality to what I'm used too? I don't mind a little less IQ if you get quality IS and 18x mag lol. Most of my uses are we go driving round the island and come across wildlife all the time, I'd leave them in the car
@themarksmanABP awesome! We haven't published our review of the Kite ED 50s, but I have been using them all season and they are very very good. A downgrade vs something like the Zeiss Victory or Swaro NL Pure, but the stabilization is excellent and if you are on the move, they are a fantastic option. I'd definitely recommend them. Thanks!
Right ear would love to join the conversation.
@@zacjones6711 sorry! Has
Had done technical issues that I didn't realize were occurring. It's fixed now on videos going forward. Thanks for watching!
I would love a review on the 50 mm objective Kite. It looks like it's just coming out now to a few stores. Interested if if the low light characteristics are much improved and if the IS is better as well. By any chance will you be reviewing this product?
Hey there! Actually, I am going to and have them on their way right now! Stay tuned!
Ty, I appreciate your reviews and in-depth analysis.
@HogDogKrohn glad to hear it and thanks for following the channel!
thought my headphones died at the start but your voice audio is only set to the left channel 😅
Hey! Thanks for the heads up. I realized I had a technical issue after the video was published...ugh! It plays in both speakers/headphones if done on a computer, but sometimes not on a phone. Sorry!
@@BackwoodsPursuit no worries. I got so sick of it happening to me on my own videos I reset my timeline defaults to mono 🙈 surprisingly very few instances where I actually have stereo recordings.
@wildfoodoutdoors agreed! Yeah, I changed my mic settings etc to correct it LOL. So frustrating as it plays normally on my computer and in headphones on the computers, just not on headphones when on your phone.
Is Fujinon 12x28 Techno-Stabi Waterproof Image-Stabilized Binoculars better then these ?
Hey there! I can't say for sure as I've not yet tried those ones to compare. Thanks for watching!
awesome it was thank u
@elyas-tavakkoli thank you and thanks for watching!
Hi. Not sure if you have a chance to do a FOV of SIG 10x30 vs 12x42. I have the 12x42 and find the FOV too narrow sometimes. The 10x30 is 5.2 degree vs 3.8 on the 12x42.
I want to get the 10x30 but because the EP is only 3, I'm afraid it will be hard to get perfect view without blackout. On the 42 I do experienced imperfect view and need frequent adjusting and on the 30 it may be worse? Any thoughts?
Hey there! Thanks for the question. I can't say that I noticed a big difference in that way between the 10x30s and 12x42s, but I also wasn't specifically looking for that difference. The 10x30s were noticeably worse in low light as you can imaging with that much smaller EP. Thanks for watching!
I know you can't include every IS binocular but I would have liked the Kite 14x50 and 18x50 included
@hubbs478 hey! Yeah, it's tough to get them all, but those Kite ED 50mm models came out after this review was done. We are testing them now!
Thanks for watching!
Hi best video!
The Sig HDX 16X42 in scan mode, stabilizes like the Kite always about?
Thank you
Thank you! Not sure what exactly you are asking? Thanks for watching!
if the stabilization in scan mode of the SIG HDX 16X42 is similar to that of the Kite 16X (which I tested) so as to understand.
Thanks
@francesco1945 oh...gotcha. yeah, they are close I would say. I thought the Kite were slightly smoother scanning than the Sig, but very close. Thanks!
Any with eye relief over 18mm?
Hey there! I believe the most any of them have is 17mm of eye relief. The specific eye relief of each is mentioned in the video though. Thanks for watching!
@@BackwoodsPursuit
Thanks for that.
@redpillnibbler4423 absolutely!
What about prices comparison?
Hey there! They are pretty close in price overall, with the Sig being roughly $100-150 less across the board. Thanks for watching!
great review, thanks for sharing your experience with these binoculars, i have the canon 18x50,,12x36 v.3 and the 10x30 v.2 , i’ve been a backyard astronomer and birder over 40 years now, i’ve had some great telescopes and binoculars over that time, my question is on the objective lenses, i see they are not round and looks like they are flat where the two objective lenses, or closest to each other in the center of the binocular, i do know you still get a perfect circle just like the binoculars that have completely round lenses for the objective lenses, so does that make them smaller than the 42mm lenses that they are or does those flat spots on the lenses don’t make a difference ?? hopefully i explained it correctly, just never seen objective lenses with flat spots on the edges on the one side ?? thanks, ken. i’ve been using the 3 canons since 2018 with no problems and they are awesome.
@ken-ec9wv hey there! Yeah that makes sense. Like you said, the field of view is still round, but I'm not 100% sure how the lens size is measured with that flat spot in the center. Good question but I don't have an answer on that one. Sorry!
thanks, it’s interesting for sure, 👍
@ken-ec9wv might have to call Sig or Kite and and 😁
i have sig gen 2 20 x. up against different models i have luepold, vortex, fujinon some on tripod some not zulu is king.
@@jrnumex9286 thanks for the insight!
Sig has a 10 year on their electronics
@kevinmartin2096 hey there! Yeah, I just called to confirm that Sig has now changed their warranty as of roughly 60 days ago (so after this video was made) so that these stabilized binoculars fall under their "Infinite Guarantee". That's super cool that they upgraded from the prior warranty. Thanks for watching and pointing that out!