I switched from Fifa to FM because I'm a stat nut - your channel is really great and I seriously appreciate you being THE evidence based channel, not just a "trust me bro" channel. (Also don't stop showing all the methodology of your work, it really helps me to understand why something works in the first place)
Must be tough having to put so much effort to make only one video, but wanna let you know your work is of amazing value like nothing out there. Have always been frustrated for how much misinformation goes around this game and I feel your channel is maybe the only base of knowledge I can take for granted. Luv u :3
So glad someone is finally taking a deep dive into this subject. There is so little information from the developers about how it works (I don't think even they know), and everything around the community seems to be pure guesswork
Did some testing having been inspired by your previous videos and was able to confirm that Determination actually has no weight on how CA is distributed. Neither do Aggression, Flair, and Natutal Fitness. Great results here, can't wait for more. Happy 10k! Who else jams to the background music 🕺🏼🎉
Wanted to say a big thanks to you. I know there was a little drama with Zealand BUT i knew this channel from that drama and i dont care a little(and i believe 99% viewers not caring) about who is right. It can be a little upsetting if someone dont believe you, or something like this, but in the end it does not matter, since the finaly product is amazing and it does not matter how it is created for default viewer. I appreciate a lot of work put in it. Zealand's videos are amazing, your videos are masterpiece and honestly i am really thrilled to see your future videos! Keep your work up and more people will come, i am more than sure. Espeecially considering that fm25 will have new game engine it will be a lot of work and i m looking for a future. Thanks again :)
I discovered your channel fairly recently. Your videos are an invaluable addition to the FM community and have really given me food for thought on how I play the game. I do wonder though whether you actually have time to play the game yourself with all the time you devote to this research. Keep up the great work!
Hello Max, thanks for all your hard work! Love that you are smiling when presenting your work progress. Also thanks for getting us real information with evidence. Your channel is very different to the standard FM content and this is very appreciated.
The first time I saw your video, I knew you were something special. I played Football Manager for more than a decade, and always hated how every existing advice or guide on tactics to training were just based on anecdotes and narratives. But I never had the expertise or drive to do what you did. I only wished you existed 10 years when I was sinking 1000+ hours into football manager lol. Congrats on hitting 10k subs, you deserved it and much more.
HOYD's nation knowledge level is an another factor I have seen mentioned in some forum discussions. I am sceptical of this but would love to see some hard data behind it. Last two videos have been really useful, mate!
Thank you so much for your evidence based analysis! To me, your work has been groundbreaking and insightful. You were right, the community needed someone with your methodical and fact based approach: to me it has been much more insightful than people just reading ingame descriptions out loud on UA-cam... So truly Max, thank you for your amazing work, and I hope you'll keep going for a long time!
Great to see the extra tests, and looking forward to the following videos, given how much I bothered you with my feedback on the subject :P And yeah, congrats on the 10k subs (almost 13k now), your work is really appreciated. As you said, 99% of the info available on the game has always been completely anecdotal (often bordering on full blown urban legend), with the tests done on FMArena probably being the only exception. But even those have always been mostly oriented on brute forcing the game one way or another, not necessarily on understanding how it works and why some things work the way they do (with the arguably lone exception of the attribute by attribute relevance to match performance tests). Your contribution is extremely useful to the scene, thanks!
Thank you for all the research. I've been watching almost all of your videos lately and it's very great info. It also worries me how much "stats" SI gives us, with so many stats not even mattering in f.e. development. Keep up the good work! And congrats on the 10k+ (12,4k as we speak) subs!
Just wanted to comment to say thanks for these videos. As a long time FM player doing career saves usually in lower leagues, it's great to see some proper analysis on what impacts certain stats have, as it helps to make the right choices when playing. Really appreciate the insights!
Thanks for everything you've done for the FM community, you are a legend that not enough people know about yet. Congrats on the 10k and no need to reply.
This is the video (and series) I've been waiting the most since I sub to your channel as this is the most beautiful part of the game, at least for me! Thanks a lot Max!!
From a newly happy subscriber Im just glad that your findings all seems logical to what I think should affect the intakes.. Strange to be that there would be so many FM players that has started play the game w/o having any clues of football at all ?? I do love your investigations and Im glad to have found your channel. Keep up the good work. PS reply not necessary from Max... I will not get offended LOL
Thanks for the great content. I've been playing football manager games on and off for about 30 years and I've learnt a lot from your channel. Keep up the great work ❤
It would be interesting to see if the head of youth development's coaching attributes (such as attacking, defending, fitness, mental, technical, tactical) affect CA and archetype of youth players coming through the academy. In theory would a HOYD with high fitness ratings result in youth prospects more initially able in the physicals category. Appreciate the hard work that goes into these videos!!
I almost don't want to suggest this and add more work for you, but I think it could be interesting to see if there is a difference depending on which youth intake it is. This year I have found tat the first year always results in higher PA youth players, so doing these tests on the 2nd/3rd youth intake could have different results? However....great work as always, loved it!
1000% I knew I wasn't the only one! I am CONVINCED that the game presents the user with good first intakes to keep them interested in the save. This is the kind of evidence I would be highly interested in!
Absolute legend! Waiting with bated breath for the rest of the series. Congrats on 10k it is 100% deserved ❤ I wonder if HOYD scouting knowledge has an effect on the intakes? Broader knowledge = more foreign/talented youngsters maybe?
Thanks mate, I'm also intrigued by HOYD scouting knowledge, but this is a parameter that can't be changed using the editor, so bit difficult to test. I'll see what I can do.
@@ebfm I have done so with my own HOYD because I am getting fed up of terrible intakes so I gave him 100% knowledge of all the best youth rated countries in the world. I will let you know how my next intake goes!
Another INCREDIBLE video & dive into the youth intakes. I sure can't wait for the next one, and I'm definitely going to be looking into staff a bit more closely in the future
Really notable quite how big a difference junior coaching is having. That jump in PA is not only quite something on the graph but makes a massive change in gameplay.
Congrats on the 10k sub. *WWE chant - YOU DESERVE IT~! clap,clap,clapclapclap~! Really starting to grow into this channel too. Maybe I share my humble opinion as a casual player of FM20 (started around CM97? But real life means less time, ha) ... What we players want, is that 5* potential kid every intake, meaning - a kid with a really high PA. Ideally with high Professionalism. Your results have already been very, very helpful, as shown by the increase in subs. Just that some folks are starting to push your one-man-operation resources onto ... too many things. It seems that you do know the goal too, so ... just wanna say it out loud. *whispering scouting budget ... ☺ Ultimately, nothing beats a Save/Load, Holiday-ing until the T3 period where we can see the kids' ratings. Too many variables in the first place. It's why I dont Save/Load the game after knowing how to play the game (have never even see the CA/PA ratings in-game). Having played some 30+ seasons on my FM save, generally a world-beater every 8-10 seasons. So, it ... averages itself out, so to speak? P.S. Just got another average Youth Preview, but ... didnt wanna Save/Load to alter my match results. Maybe I really should just Save/Load a Youth Preview to ... test. 😅
Hey mate appreciate the support! Yes, getting those 5 star wonderkids is everyone's goal! The role played by Scouting Budget will be tested in the Part 3 video.
May you do a experiment about junior affiliates that send youth players to the team? Like whether it’s the junior affiliate clubs’ youth recruitment or our team’s youth recruitment that affects the player’s PA and CA. There are so many variables to discuss and I thought this could be very interesting! Especially for a player like me who always try to get junior affiliate clubs that are in countries that have high youth rating.
Hey mate, I never make use of my affiliates so I'm not too familiar with the feature, but I can look into it sure. Even if the newgens of affiliates are dependent on the variables of the affiliate club, would it benefit your own club ultimately? Wouldn't all the loanees sent to your club by the affiliates go back to their clubs?
@@ebfm There is actually a kind of junior affiliate club that will help you get new gen from their country~ I play the game in Chinese, but I think the description is probably as follows: Senior club can send their players on loan to the junior club, and the junior club will promote the chance of their good new gen to the senior club. For example, in my Newcastle save, I have a french club as my junior affiliate. So I get 1 french new gen almost every season. But I don’t know whether it is my club or the junior club that determine this new gen’s ability~
@@Ning28112 Interesting, I didn't know that. It will indeed be worth investigating whether the quality of the newgen depends on the facilities of your own club or those of the affiliate club. It will be done.
@@ebfm Yeah i was using the affliates from random countries in the hopes of getting wonderkid from some obscure country. Would be good to know if it can affect my youth intakes negatively :D
Love the channel! And very happy you’re smashing this topic and channel in general! I have a test for youth academy for PA & CA (have proposed this before but you’ve answered most already!) 1. Are the personalities impacted by all other coaches / staff in the club. This is due to new gens having favoured personal when they come through and seems to be reflective of those. 2. There is also a question of if the quality / quantity of coaches in all teams effect youth intake. U21/U18/senior. 3. What stats for HOYD are most important when it comes to Youth intake. Not just the top three working with youngsters, judging potential and ability but also coaching attributes… I.e. attacking / defending - giving more to the new regens. I feel like the timeline one (before December preview) will have the most impact to all of these. Last question - how important are affiliate clubs (quantity and quality - youth facilities etc) - this is a hit topic with all the youth academy challenges, if they are worth having - especially foreign clubs with high nation rep countries. Love the content keep it up
Hey bud, I'm diving into Timeline 1 (Youth Preview) in the next video, so the queries you raised will be addressed there. Few others have also suggested testing the role of Affiliate Clubs. It will be done.
Damn that looks like a lot of work, thank you for your hard efforts Max! A suggestion: You might need a 4th point in time to complete a thorough analysis: Several seasons later after you've made the test changes. I would bet that some variables noticeably influence the youth intake only over the course of several years. As we can see whenever we get a message that a 12 year old has been poached by another club, FM might simulate several generations of intake already before you can even see it. It would make sense that e.g. HOYD personality and junior coaching facilities would have a lot more impact over many years as opposed to one day or 4 months.
Hey mate, very interesting point you bring up about little kids being poached 'behind the scenes'. The problem with running any tests that are longer than a season is that lots of variables start coming into play (transfers, staff members moving around etc.) But it is indeed possible that some variables eg. HOYD reputation have benefits that only become apparent after 1-2 seasons.
1st congratulations for the 10k subs I remember watching a video mentioning that the training facility affects youth intake not the youth facility.If you can test this hypothesis that will be much appreciated. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the vid again! Always use your findings to optimise my saves. I don’t know if you are going to test it, but it would be interesting to see whether the quality of your scouts changes anything about your intakes. Once a year I get a message from one of the scouts telling me some youngster has been taken over from another club which makes me think the ability of your scouts influences the youth intake.
Always imagined that the scouting budget should have an impact too. I mean, it made sense, right? 😅 Another one is the general knowledge of the players of a region/country. Like, the more you know Brazil, the better the chances of finding the next fat Brazilian Ronaldo, right?
Excellent stuff as always - this and the last video. I had heard that the reputation and nationality of the HoYD might affect the youth intake. It would be great to have some insight into that, too. Edit - I see you have already answered this, thank you.
Well done mate!i discovered your channel 1 year ago and gave me some gamechanging information!thank you P.s. Please ,please ,please, consider scouting for your next topic.there are a lot of urban legens around it
Hey Max congrats with your 10k. Can you look if personalities of the staff and nation has an (Big) effect on youth intake. Especially if you have staff of a lot of the same nation & lots of staff with Good/Neutral/Bad personalities. And if all staff affect the Youth intake or only U18 + HOYD
One thing that I would have found interesting: If you sack a HoYD before the intake and get a new one - will the youngsters be influenced by the new one? Because to me the "side experiment" suggests that a youngster gets "attached" to a HoYD at the preview date. On the announcement date, the stats of the attached (ex-)HoYD are checked to influence the players. This would explain the side experiment and it makes sense from a programming standpoint. It could be tested by sacking the HoYD before the intake and then still adjust his stats to all 20s and all 1s to see whether he impacts the intake still.
Hey mate, absolutely, the reason I didn't see any difference in the quality of the youth in this video (when I sacked the HOYD just before the Youth Announcement) could indeed be because the newgens are influenced by the ex-HOYD and not the new one. The same test will be repeated at the other timepoints in my future videos so maybe there'll be a difference in the results.
Love your videos Max! I'm really interested in the consistency stat, I never buy players who are inconsistent but I don't actually know how important it is.
Great work! I have a suggestion for a series of future tests: more than anything you've covered so far, what I would like to know FOR A FACT is what each attribute really does. For example, does 20 Finishing and 1 Composure lead to more goals than 1 Finishing 20 Composure? Does having high Technique improve Passing, or is it just Passing that improves passing? How is the outcome of key actions (crossing, shooting,etc.) really calculated and what does each attribute truly do? That's probably going to be much harder to test than most things you've done so far, but you're clearly the right man for the job.
Hey mate, the test you mentioned can be done, in fact the setup won't even be difficult. Set up a controlled match, change the attributes, repeat like crazy and record the match stats / player stats. The main problem is that many attributes in FM23 (supposedly) work in conjunction with each other. You may have to change 2-3 attributes as a set for any changes to occur - this means that I'll need a 2-variable or even 3-variable tests which will obviously blow up the volume of work required. I shall keep it in my list of things to test in the future.
I think you should provide a more visualized graph instead of the current one. Example, instead of showing the average PA/CA of the players based on a certain variable like youth coaching 1/10/20, why not use the increase/decrease to better illustrate the change? Anyway, appreciate the effort to come up with this kind of experiments and data which helps us to understand the game better. Cheer mate, waiting for your next video.
good job mate thanks for your work, an idea is to test also how the youth coaches affect the youth intake cause some of those players when they come to the club they have favorite persons one youth coach or even two sometimes...
You know it's a good day when you check your UA-cam notifications & get a new EBFM upload. Keep delivering those amazing experiments
Your channel is more valuable than every other FM channel combined.
Thanks mate, next video will be up in a few days!
So many myths running around in FM community. I really appreciate the work you do trying to uncover what is actually true. Congrats on 10k!
When something's strange in the FM hood, who you gonna call? Myth busters!
If you were a staff member in Football Manager, your presenting data attribute would be a 20. Thanks for putting in the work!
I switched from Fifa to FM because I'm a stat nut - your channel is really great and I seriously appreciate you being THE evidence based channel, not just a "trust me bro" channel.
(Also don't stop showing all the methodology of your work, it really helps me to understand why something works in the first place)
Congratulations for 12K subscribers, Max!
10k is nothing compared to what this channel deserves. Keep going and we'll see the numbers spiking very quickly.
Congrats Max, 10k achievement is well deserved!
Must be tough having to put so much effort to make only one video, but wanna let you know your work is of amazing value like nothing out there. Have always been frustrated for how much misinformation goes around this game and I feel your channel is maybe the only base of knowledge I can take for granted. Luv u :3
that smile in the last minutes was so contagious not gonna lie :)
I've never thought that I'll be excited about an Australian dropping a excel spreadsheet but here I am
Current subscriber number is over 12,000. Let's hope you reach 20,000 soon. Great video as always. 👍
Increasing the initial sample size is great, it shows that attempting to be more accurate with your numbers and findings is something to remember. :D
So glad someone is finally taking a deep dive into this subject. There is so little information from the developers about how it works (I don't think even they know), and everything around the community seems to be pure guesswork
Did some testing having been inspired by your previous videos and was able to confirm that Determination actually has no weight on how CA is distributed. Neither do Aggression, Flair, and Natutal Fitness. Great results here, can't wait for more. Happy 10k!
Who else jams to the background music 🕺🏼🎉
Don't have to reply to this one Max. But appreciate the work you do. Keep going, it's great seeing FM tackled in this way.
Wanted to say a big thanks to you. I know there was a little drama with Zealand BUT i knew this channel from that drama and i dont care a little(and i believe 99% viewers not caring) about who is right. It can be a little upsetting if someone dont believe you, or something like this, but in the end it does not matter, since the finaly product is amazing and it does not matter how it is created for default viewer. I appreciate a lot of work put in it. Zealand's videos are amazing, your videos are masterpiece and honestly i am really thrilled to see your future videos! Keep your work up and more people will come, i am more than sure. Espeecially considering that fm25 will have new game engine it will be a lot of work and i m looking for a future. Thanks again :)
I discovered your channel fairly recently. Your videos are an invaluable addition to the FM community and have really given me food for thought on how I play the game. I do wonder though whether you actually have time to play the game yourself with all the time you devote to this research. Keep up the great work!
98% of my FM playtime is spent on research 😅
Congrats on 10k! Keep going, keep growing!
Hello Max, thanks for all your hard work! Love that you are smiling when presenting your work progress. Also thanks for getting us real information with evidence. Your channel is very different to the standard FM content and this is very appreciated.
I absolutely love your work mate keep it coming, from a fellow Melbourne football manager.
Great video as usual. Congrats on 10k subscribers, you deserve it.
This was something I always wanted to know and even wanted to test myself. Big respect for doing full test and showing the result so professionally.
The first time I saw your video, I knew you were something special. I played Football Manager for more than a decade, and always hated how every existing advice or guide on tactics to training were just based on anecdotes and narratives. But I never had the expertise or drive to do what you did. I only wished you existed 10 years when I was sinking 1000+ hours into football manager lol. Congrats on hitting 10k subs, you deserved it and much more.
Congrats on the 10k (now 12.4k!) subs!
HOYD's nation knowledge level is an another factor I have seen mentioned in some forum discussions. I am sceptical of this but would love to see some hard data behind it.
Last two videos have been really useful, mate!
Congrats on the 10k and thanks for your work!
Thank you so much for your evidence based analysis! To me, your work has been groundbreaking and insightful. You were right, the community needed someone with your methodical and fact based approach: to me it has been much more insightful than people just reading ingame descriptions out loud on UA-cam... So truly Max, thank you for your amazing work, and I hope you'll keep going for a long time!
Great to see the extra tests, and looking forward to the following videos, given how much I bothered you with my feedback on the subject :P
And yeah, congrats on the 10k subs (almost 13k now), your work is really appreciated. As you said, 99% of the info available on the game has always been completely anecdotal (often bordering on full blown urban legend), with the tests done on FMArena probably being the only exception. But even those have always been mostly oriented on brute forcing the game one way or another, not necessarily on understanding how it works and why some things work the way they do (with the arguably lone exception of the attribute by attribute relevance to match performance tests). Your contribution is extremely useful to the scene, thanks!
Thank you for all the research. I've been watching almost all of your videos lately and it's very great info. It also worries me how much "stats" SI gives us, with so many stats not even mattering in f.e. development. Keep up the good work! And congrats on the 10k+ (12,4k as we speak) subs!
Kudos to u for the special work you do!!
Cheers to 10k Max!!!!
Congrats on 10k subs - well deserved and earned!! You do an amazing contribution to the fm community- thx for all your effort!! 🥳🎊
Congrats Max! Special greetings from your designer
Loving the thumbnails!
Hearing that this is now a series made my day.
Thanks for your hard work - can't wait to see more.
Thank you so much for all of your videos, your work has so much value for the FM community. Best youtube channel of FM or me. Cheers
Congrats on 10k Max.
Just wanted to comment to say thanks for these videos. As a long time FM player doing career saves usually in lower leagues, it's great to see some proper analysis on what impacts certain stats have, as it helps to make the right choices when playing. Really appreciate the insights!
Congrats on the 10k (or 12,5k right now)! You deserve all of the success.
I've watched loads of youth intake videos, but this is the crème de la crème of them all
Thanks for everything you've done for the FM community, you are a legend that not enough people know about yet. Congrats on the 10k and no need to reply.
This is the video (and series) I've been waiting the most since I sub to your channel as this is the most beautiful part of the game, at least for me! Thanks a lot Max!!
From a newly happy subscriber Im just glad that your findings all seems logical to what I think should affect the intakes..
Strange to be that there would be so many FM players that has started play the game w/o having any clues of football at all ??
I do love your investigations and Im glad to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.
PS reply not necessary from Max... I will not get offended LOL
I had the luck of meeting you after the ZealandGate. Keep.upnthe good work!
Congratz on the 10k!
I'm glad things are going well.
Thanks for the great content. I've been playing football manager games on and off for about 30 years and I've learnt a lot from your channel. Keep up the great work ❤
i hope you continue to do the same for upcoming fm24 soon. underrated channel. thank you!
It would be interesting to see if the head of youth development's coaching attributes (such as attacking, defending, fitness, mental, technical, tactical) affect CA and archetype of youth players coming through the academy. In theory would a HOYD with high fitness ratings result in youth prospects more initially able in the physicals category. Appreciate the hard work that goes into these videos!!
Congrats on 10k subs! Your channel is amazing and it’s so clear that you always put so much effort into each and every video. Keep going!
As always, thank you for all your hard work. 👌
I almost don't want to suggest this and add more work for you, but I think it could be interesting to see if there is a difference depending on which youth intake it is.
This year I have found tat the first year always results in higher PA youth players, so doing these tests on the 2nd/3rd youth intake could have different results?
However....great work as always, loved it!
1000% I knew I wasn't the only one! I am CONVINCED that the game presents the user with good first intakes to keep them interested in the save. This is the kind of evidence I would be highly interested in!
Congratulation mate! Well done! Now aim to 100k!
I rely on your videos for my strategies so thanks and grats on the 10k subs!
Absolute legend! Waiting with bated breath for the rest of the series. Congrats on 10k it is 100% deserved ❤
I wonder if HOYD scouting knowledge has an effect on the intakes? Broader knowledge = more foreign/talented youngsters maybe?
Thanks mate, I'm also intrigued by HOYD scouting knowledge, but this is a parameter that can't be changed using the editor, so bit difficult to test. I'll see what I can do.
@@ebfm you can change it via FMRTE easily enough though.
@@bill_benjamin omg I just noticed😅
It shall be done.
@@ebfm I have done so with my own HOYD because I am getting fed up of terrible intakes so I gave him 100% knowledge of all the best youth rated countries in the world. I will let you know how my next intake goes!
Congrats on 10k brother!!
concratz on 10k. lot of useful info as usual cant wait the next one.
I have just found your channel and I wanted to say that your work is exellent, amazing job and keep it up, very educational videos
Truly amazing channel every video is class, as you say incredible value in resolving those myths, congrats🎉
Another INCREDIBLE video & dive into the youth intakes. I sure can't wait for the next one, and I'm definitely going to be looking into staff a bit more closely in the future
I'm really excited for this series
Amazing job as always, another thing that could be fun to test is affiliate clubs and their influence on the youth intake
Thanks for all the Great work and effort you do. Truly amazing. I implement your findings into my saves and they do ring true. Thanks!
Wonderful work as always, we appreciate the videos
Really notable quite how big a difference junior coaching is having. That jump in PA is not only quite something on the graph but makes a massive change in gameplay.
Yes, I must say, Junior Coaching has been the breakout star of this series so far.
This one mean ... the U18 coaches?
Damn, these guys are hard to hire and keep (if they are good, they get poached to become managers themselves?)
@@Chengyuan79 No, it means junior coaching. it's something you can ask the board to improve like youth facilities
@@jpeters1734 ah. Good to know. Thank you so much! 🫡
Congrats on the 10k sub. *WWE chant - YOU DESERVE IT~! clap,clap,clapclapclap~!
Really starting to grow into this channel too. Maybe I share my humble opinion as a casual player of FM20 (started around CM97? But real life means less time, ha) ... What we players want, is that 5* potential kid every intake, meaning - a kid with a really high PA. Ideally with high Professionalism. Your results have already been very, very helpful, as shown by the increase in subs.
Just that some folks are starting to push your one-man-operation resources onto ... too many things. It seems that you do know the goal too, so ... just wanna say it out loud. *whispering scouting budget ... ☺
Ultimately, nothing beats a Save/Load, Holiday-ing until the T3 period where we can see the kids' ratings. Too many variables in the first place. It's why I dont Save/Load the game after knowing how to play the game (have never even see the CA/PA ratings in-game). Having played some 30+ seasons on my FM save, generally a world-beater every 8-10 seasons. So, it ... averages itself out, so to speak?
P.S. Just got another average Youth Preview, but ... didnt wanna Save/Load to alter my match results. Maybe I really should just Save/Load a Youth Preview to ... test. 😅
Hey mate appreciate the support!
Yes, getting those 5 star wonderkids is everyone's goal!
The role played by Scouting Budget will be tested in the Part 3 video.
Congratulations my guy.
May you do a experiment about junior affiliates that send youth players to the team? Like whether it’s the junior affiliate clubs’ youth recruitment or our team’s youth recruitment that affects the player’s PA and CA. There are so many variables to discuss and I thought this could be very interesting! Especially for a player like me who always try to get junior affiliate clubs that are in countries that have high youth rating.
Agreed that this would be very valuable info. Affiliates could probably be its own full video.
Hey mate, I never make use of my affiliates so I'm not too familiar with the feature, but I can look into it sure. Even if the newgens of affiliates are dependent on the variables of the affiliate club, would it benefit your own club ultimately? Wouldn't all the loanees sent to your club by the affiliates go back to their clubs?
@@ebfm There is actually a kind of junior affiliate club that will help you get new gen from their country~ I play the game in Chinese, but I think the description is probably as follows: Senior club can send their players on loan to the junior club, and the junior club will promote the chance of their good new gen to the senior club. For example, in my Newcastle save, I have a french club as my junior affiliate. So I get 1 french new gen almost every season. But I don’t know whether it is my club or the junior club that determine this new gen’s ability~
@@Ning28112 Interesting, I didn't know that. It will indeed be worth investigating whether the quality of the newgen depends on the facilities of your own club or those of the affiliate club. It will be done.
@@ebfm Yeah i was using the affliates from random countries in the hopes of getting wonderkid from some obscure country. Would be good to know if it can affect my youth intakes negatively :D
Thanks for the content. Much appreciated ❤
Love the channel! And very happy you’re smashing this topic and channel in general!
I have a test for youth academy for PA & CA (have proposed this before but you’ve answered most already!)
1. Are the personalities impacted by all other coaches / staff in the club.
This is due to new gens having favoured personal when they come through and seems to be reflective of those.
2. There is also a question of if the quality / quantity of coaches in all teams effect youth intake. U21/U18/senior.
3. What stats for HOYD are most important when it comes to Youth intake. Not just the top three working with youngsters, judging potential and ability but also coaching attributes… I.e. attacking / defending - giving more to the new regens.
I feel like the timeline one (before December preview) will have the most impact to all of these.
Last question - how important are affiliate clubs (quantity and quality - youth facilities etc) - this is a hit topic with all the youth academy challenges, if they are worth having - especially foreign clubs with high nation rep countries.
Love the content keep it up
Hey bud,
I'm diving into Timeline 1 (Youth Preview) in the next video, so the queries you raised will be addressed there.
Few others have also suggested testing the role of Affiliate Clubs. It will be done.
Interesting video again :)
Yess another intake video my favoutite FM topic :)
Great work as always. Bit unrealiable in its current state as the whole topic since test must be done before the first youth report as well
I love your channel! I found it through the Zealand debacle.
Congratulations 🎉. You deserve it. Your work is unique. Thanks . One suggestion is to try including youth coach personality and attributes too
Subscribed and also looking forward for further experiments
you deserve 10 times more subs dude. Thanks for putting in all the effort
Appreciate the series mate very nice!
I see an EBFM vid, I watch with great interest. Really appreciate the hard work you put into these.
Massive congrats on the 10k.
Still loving your work!!!
i just found your channel, but i want to say don't quit
Damn that looks like a lot of work, thank you for your hard efforts Max! A suggestion: You might need a 4th point in time to complete a thorough analysis: Several seasons later after you've made the test changes. I would bet that some variables noticeably influence the youth intake only over the course of several years. As we can see whenever we get a message that a 12 year old has been poached by another club, FM might simulate several generations of intake already before you can even see it. It would make sense that e.g. HOYD personality and junior coaching facilities would have a lot more impact over many years as opposed to one day or 4 months.
Hey mate, very interesting point you bring up about little kids being poached 'behind the scenes'. The problem with running any tests that are longer than a season is that lots of variables start coming into play (transfers, staff members moving around etc.) But it is indeed possible that some variables eg. HOYD reputation have benefits that only become apparent after 1-2 seasons.
Fantastic video as always
1st congratulations for the 10k subs
I remember watching a video mentioning that the training facility affects youth intake not the youth facility.If you can test this hypothesis that will be much appreciated.
Keep up the good work
Keep up the good work! ❤❤❤
Thanks for the vid again! Always use your findings to optimise my saves. I don’t know if you are going to test it, but it would be interesting to see whether the quality of your scouts changes anything about your intakes. Once a year I get a message from one of the scouts telling me some youngster has been taken over from another club which makes me think the ability of your scouts influences the youth intake.
Hey bud, some people also told me that the quality of your scouts may be a factor. Will test it out mate
Always imagined that the scouting budget should have an impact too. I mean, it made sense, right? 😅
Another one is the general knowledge of the players of a region/country. Like, the more you know Brazil, the better the chances of finding the next fat Brazilian Ronaldo, right?
Excellent stuff as always - this and the last video. I had heard that the reputation and nationality of the HoYD might affect the youth intake. It would be great to have some insight into that, too. Edit - I see you have already answered this, thank you.
big thank you from france
Loving it mate!
Good stuff, my dude!
Well done mate!i discovered your channel 1 year ago and gave me some gamechanging information!thank you
P.s. Please ,please ,please, consider scouting for your next topic.there are a lot of urban legens around it
Hey mate, few people told me that scouting is related to the Youth Intake mechanics in FM so I will be exploring scouting in this series.
How this guy only has 13k subs I'll never know!
Great video! I wish I found your channel sooner! Keep up the good work - New subscriber!
Hey Max congrats with your 10k. Can you look if personalities of the staff and nation has an (Big) effect on youth intake. Especially if you have staff of a lot of the same nation & lots of staff with Good/Neutral/Bad personalities. And if all staff affect the Youth intake or only U18 + HOYD
One thing that I would have found interesting: If you sack a HoYD before the intake and get a new one - will the youngsters be influenced by the new one? Because to me the "side experiment" suggests that a youngster gets "attached" to a HoYD at the preview date. On the announcement date, the stats of the attached (ex-)HoYD are checked to influence the players. This would explain the side experiment and it makes sense from a programming standpoint. It could be tested by sacking the HoYD before the intake and then still adjust his stats to all 20s and all 1s to see whether he impacts the intake still.
Hey mate, absolutely, the reason I didn't see any difference in the quality of the youth in this video (when I sacked the HOYD just before the Youth Announcement) could indeed be because the newgens are influenced by the ex-HOYD and not the new one. The same test will be repeated at the other timepoints in my future videos so maybe there'll be a difference in the results.
Love your videos Max! I'm really interested in the consistency stat, I never buy players who are inconsistent but I don't actually know how important it is.
Great work! I have a suggestion for a series of future tests: more than anything you've covered so far, what I would like to know FOR A FACT is what each attribute really does. For example, does 20 Finishing and 1 Composure lead to more goals than 1 Finishing 20 Composure? Does having high Technique improve Passing, or is it just Passing that improves passing? How is the outcome of key actions (crossing, shooting,etc.) really calculated and what does each attribute truly do?
That's probably going to be much harder to test than most things you've done so far, but you're clearly the right man for the job.
Hey mate, the test you mentioned can be done, in fact the setup won't even be difficult. Set up a controlled match, change the attributes, repeat like crazy and record the match stats / player stats. The main problem is that many attributes in FM23 (supposedly) work in conjunction with each other. You may have to change 2-3 attributes as a set for any changes to occur - this means that I'll need a 2-variable or even 3-variable tests which will obviously blow up the volume of work required.
I shall keep it in my list of things to test in the future.
@@ebfm that's great to hear! Thanks a lot for reading and responding :)
I think you should provide a more visualized graph instead of the current one. Example, instead of showing the average PA/CA of the players based on a certain variable like youth coaching 1/10/20, why not use the increase/decrease to better illustrate the change? Anyway, appreciate the effort to come up with this kind of experiments and data which helps us to understand the game better. Cheer mate, waiting for your next video.
good job mate thanks for your work, an idea is to test also how the youth coaches affect the youth intake cause some of those players when they come to the club they have favorite persons one youth coach or even two sometimes...
Hey bud, interesting point you bring up, I never noticed that the newgens can have U18 coaches as their favourite personnel. I'll take a look into it.