A bit off topic but you can also always reduce a player’s squad status by at least one notch the day you sign them. It also pays to go through all of your player’s squad statuses and see what reductions they’d be happy to accept and put them to that.
I just found one more trick today. First, put the player in a unwanted list, then offer them to any price include tick the box transfer list and surples to requirements. After that, change their squad status anything you want. Finally, take them out from unwanted list and transfer list. You will see they won't complain or be unhappy :)
In the previous versions of the game, it has been beneficial to just remove all the bonuses and clauses (except international wage clause of course) as the effect this has on the base wage demand is negligible compared to the money you save by not having appearance fees etc.
On the talking to agent thing, always end with stall as well, in my experiments that reduces their initial demands as well. Very good overview and hope feeling better Matt.
"so many agents and players in the FM pool" Bro you have no idea how badly things go if you piss off an agent that happens to have a lot of players from the same nationality. Part of my save on FM 22 was to try and build the best Kiwi-only Wellington Phoenix I could, and I was pretty successful. However, a significant number of Kiwi players were registered with 1 particular agent, especially newgens. After a few contracts failed in the negotiation stage, it got to the point where the agent hated me and it was a nightmare doing business with them, but because they had loads of decent Kiwi players I didn't have a choice but to try and deal with them. As a consequence my wages rocketed upwards, so I had to get creative with the loan market (mainly loaning out players) to bring in revenue. Thanks Gulf states & Japan for keeping me solvent ❤️
I'm convinced players know what your wage budget is and adjust accordingly. I only have anecdotal evidence, but it seems to be true. For example, in my first season as Almeria, I had about £350k p/w for a wage budget. The highest wage anyone asked from me was £15k for wonderkid Datro Fofana. In my second season, I have just under £600k p/w as a wage budget and suddenly even relatively unknown kids are asking for 10k as a starter wage.
I've been noticing in my save, a lower league one, that if you remove and exclude all appearance fees and bonuses, they will only slightly increase their base wage demands. Then you can get them close to, or at whatever their base wage demand was when they had all the bonuses
I’ve only just noticed the sacked agent one on my journeyman in Sweden I wondered why I was able to try twice to sign certain players… now I know why so thanks Matt 👍
Surprised that there was no mention of extortionate signing on fees or loyalty bonuses here. If a player wants £350k up front and is on a wage of £8.5k, that means he wants 41 weeks salary the moment he joins the club. It might not save you money in the long-run but I far far prefer to increase his wage a tad and lower those bonuses straight to 0.
It would be interesting to see how these percentages differ when you are trying to renegotiate someone's contract as opposed to signing them new, specifically how much lower than their current contract you could get them to go.
5:29 This is why I can never sign staff to work on dual roles, even when he is far better suited on that second role than the first, but I need to fill the roles quickly.
Excellent video. I have been playing football manager for several years but there are a lot of things I just ignored using thinking it was a hindrance than a help. This year I will try to take advantage of these things.
exploit or not, something you can do once the player has agreed a contract is to remove some of the clauses. Like 40% of the times i'm able to increase the release clause to 500M without him denying and usually i can ENTIRELY remove the wage after 25 matches, sometimes i can even remove fee for goals/assists/bench if the player has really low reputation just know that having the suggested terms agreed isn't the end of a contract negotiation: when it has been accepted you can change the offer and try to remove or decrease all the clauses you want, as long as you accept the previous offer and finalise deal if the player doesn't like the new offer
What can i do when i ask an agent how much his player wants and he says 70k a month, but when i approach to sign him he suddently wants a astronomical 210k a month?
What do you think of bonuses for winning the league or winning a cup? bad/good? lets say u wont win the league or cup in the first year of the contract but you might in the third? is it worth in that situation? Also appearance fees are they bad or fine?
A bit off topic but you can also always reduce a player’s squad status by at least one notch the day you sign them. It also pays to go through all of your player’s squad statuses and see what reductions they’d be happy to accept and put them to that.
Matt always does this, especially the brokeness of squad status in FM22
Not just one. If you do it the moment they arrive you can drop them to any level
I just found one more trick today. First, put the player in a unwanted list, then offer them to any price include tick the box transfer list and surples to requirements. After that, change their squad status anything you want. Finally, take them out from unwanted list and transfer list. You will see they won't complain or be unhappy :)
Hot contract tip is to offer $0 Relegation Release Fees. This helps drive the wage down
In the previous versions of the game, it has been beneficial to just remove all the bonuses and clauses (except international wage clause of course) as the effect this has on the base wage demand is negligible compared to the money you save by not having appearance fees etc.
On the talking to agent thing, always end with stall as well, in my experiments that reduces their initial demands as well. Very good overview and hope feeling better Matt.
"so many agents and players in the FM pool"
Bro you have no idea how badly things go if you piss off an agent that happens to have a lot of players from the same nationality.
Part of my save on FM 22 was to try and build the best Kiwi-only Wellington Phoenix I could, and I was pretty successful. However, a significant number of Kiwi players were registered with 1 particular agent, especially newgens. After a few contracts failed in the negotiation stage, it got to the point where the agent hated me and it was a nightmare doing business with them, but because they had loads of decent Kiwi players I didn't have a choice but to try and deal with them. As a consequence my wages rocketed upwards, so I had to get creative with the loan market (mainly loaning out players) to bring in revenue. Thanks Gulf states & Japan for keeping me solvent ❤️
how long was your save?
@@rem116 I have just got to 2035, 2nd full season at Charlton Athletic so I spent like 10 seasons at Wellington
I'm convinced players know what your wage budget is and adjust accordingly. I only have anecdotal evidence, but it seems to be true.
For example, in my first season as Almeria, I had about £350k p/w for a wage budget. The highest wage anyone asked from me was £15k for wonderkid Datro Fofana. In my second season, I have just under £600k p/w as a wage budget and suddenly even relatively unknown kids are asking for 10k as a starter wage.
I agree I had high wage budget for Southend non league and they one player ask for 30k p/w contract so frustrating
Veteran of the game and I still learnt something from this, locking in contracts too early. Thank you.
But appearance fees should also matter right?
Coz 2.5k per appearance turns into 100k if the player plays 40 games per season
I've been noticing in my save, a lower league one, that if you remove and exclude all appearance fees and bonuses, they will only slightly increase their base wage demands. Then you can get them close to, or at whatever their base wage demand was when they had all the bonuses
I’ve only just noticed the sacked agent one on my journeyman in Sweden I wondered why I was able to try twice to sign certain players… now I know why so thanks Matt 👍
Surprised that there was no mention of extortionate signing on fees or loyalty bonuses here. If a player wants £350k up front and is on a wage of £8.5k, that means he wants 41 weeks salary the moment he joins the club. It might not save you money in the long-run but I far far prefer to increase his wage a tad and lower those bonuses straight to 0.
It would be interesting to see how these percentages differ when you are trying to renegotiate someone's contract as opposed to signing them new, specifically how much lower than their current contract you could get them to go.
5:29 This is why I can never sign staff to work on dual roles, even when he is far better suited on that second role than the first, but I need to fill the roles quickly.
Excellent video. I have been playing football manager for several years but there are a lot of things I just ignored using thinking it was a hindrance than a help. This year I will try to take advantage of these things.
Hope you are feeling better Matt. Great video as always, really helpful and informative
exploit or not, something you can do once the player has agreed a contract is to remove some of the clauses. Like 40% of the times i'm able to increase the release clause to 500M without him denying and usually i can ENTIRELY remove the wage after 25 matches, sometimes i can even remove fee for goals/assists/bench if the player has really low reputation
just know that having the suggested terms agreed isn't the end of a contract negotiation: when it has been accepted you can change the offer and try to remove or decrease all the clauses you want, as long as you accept the previous offer and finalise deal if the player doesn't like the new offer
Fantastic video and very informative. Thanks Matt👍🏿
Very helpful! Thanks Matt
Fantastic content as always, Matt! Very helpful! Notice you've used Stockport for this one though....some big return coming up for F23?!
Great video Matt. Deffo worth saving thousands over the squad even if 1 player does get a cap
Does Youth Caps activate that clause ?
What can i do when i ask an agent how much his player wants and he says 70k a month, but when i approach to sign him he suddently wants a astronomical 210k a month?
What do you think of bonuses for winning the league or winning a cup? bad/good? lets say u wont win the league or cup in the first year of the contract but you might in the third? is it worth in that situation?
Also appearance fees are they bad or fine?
How does this fare at the higher end of the scale? As in, top division clubs - assuming there is probably less wiggle room available there?
are those marathon medals in the background?
So my take away from this is "wine and dine" the agents.
excellent video
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What should I do. Haaland wants a 50% salary raise but the allowed maximum is 10% increase