I’m thankful that finally some of this info about Fascia is getting to the mainstream. I’d like to point to the historical line that has finally lead to what we see now entering the mainstream. Ida Rolf was developing and proclaiming much of this in the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s and developing work that includes the Fascial system in many of the ways that these physio’s are now describing. Also, Thomas Myers was a Rolfer, trained by Ida Rolf, who got his massage licence to be able to work in California. Please, give credit where credit is due.
Yeah they even used his diagrams and terms without crediting him. I’d be kicked out of my school for that, but I guess we have higher standards in West Virginia.
@ Vicki those of us who actually move science forward, academics, practitioners interested in furthering their studies, anyone who has intellectual property…the list goes on. The presenters themselves were in a hurry and couldn’t take the time to cite their sources verbally, we’re lazy and didn’t put the citations on their diagrams, but at least they had citations at the end of the PowerPoint that can be paused. So, your attitude is actually demeaning the presenters you think you are protecting. They had academic standards even if you don’t.
Wow i went to a massage school 20 years ago and they were teaching us about this. Its really cool to see what they taught us was spot on and still relevant today, shout out to utah college of massage therapy, i went to their campus in Las Vegas, it closed down but the family of schools is still going strong
That is so good to know that they were ahead of the times. What is their network and education name that they are associated with and "still strong". Are they a major educational institution and do they still teach the core stuff like this?
@@MusicMagicXStream when i went to massage school it was called Utah college of massage therapy, las vegas campus they are now known as the Cortiva institute with the main campus still located in Salt lake City, im not sure if they were bought out or just rebranded but from what i can tell their core program is very similar to the program i went through back in 2003-2004, excellent program, excellent teachers and the classes still relevant decades later
It's disappointing that massage,so relevant to movement and curing pain, is third or 4th down the list for reimbursement if eligible at all! How long will we have to wait to be heard? Faced with this evidence, the MDs are scrambling to develop meds, machines, and prescribable methods to keep in the reimbursement stream! Watching them scramble!
I graduated from cortiva a few years back, and I absolutely loved the course. They really enriched me as a person all the while giving me the skillset to help people heal. I love it.
@@jameswyckoff759 i totally agree with that, i think people would be able to manage pain and other conditions much better and with less medication if insurance companies would start viewing massage therapy as a legit alternative therapy in the field of medicine instead of just a luxury people pay for once in a while, they could save themselves millions if they just opened their mind to the endless benefits that comes with receiving regular massages
Traditional Chinese Medicine has known about practically everything we are "rediscovering " and "rebranding" these days. I agree with other comments, give credit where it is due. It's not cutting edge just because you can now see thru an MRI what has been happening for literally millennia. Nonetheless, happy you and others are realizing the wisdom within such an ancient medicine. By the way, the acupuncture needles are doing the exact same thing you are achieving with "extreme" cupping and movements. With traditional cupping, max pumps are usually 3-4, any above will in fact cause damage to the underlying tissues, promoting scar tissue development.
Very Well said , our ancient ADVANCED ancestors had been mastered ourselves ,but what’s important is WE give them that credit , love and most importantly we continue in their footsteps and truly live As above As below
TCM did know about this, but not in the same way, that was way too esoteric. So esoteric that they couldn't tell modern medicine what and how to study it.
Agreed, plus, to furhter your knowledge, cupping was used in many nations, not just Chinese. The interesting thing is how it was translated from China to lets say Slavic countries where it had been used and known as traditional people`s healing method, or rather one of the methods. "Modern" western society proclaimed this type of healing, including herbs, as old wife`s tale. Many have fallen into the trap of "modern times".
This is fantastic. One correction...DOs, Osteopathic Physicians, as a baseline, have a medical school curriculum of 200-300 hours dedicated to NeuroMusculoSkeletal integration into the anatomy and physiology didactics with treatment applications for pathophysiologic and dysfunctional ailments of the body. The specialists who focus on this are Osteopathic Manipulative/ NeuroMusculoSkeletal Medicine specialists. I would hope that this revision is made. Thanks and keep up the amazing work. I will use this to educate my patients and students/residents alike!
Most of my training has been with John T. Barnes and so happy to see these techniques becoming more mainstream after all these years. Made my job so much easier physically; helped more of my clients achieve goals and reduce unbearable pain; and has earned me more money then I could have imagined making doing body work. A paradigm change in our perspectives on human anatomy yet fully realized!
This video was great. I would love to hear your thoughts about and/or see yin yoga included into the modalities that do similar things. Very different than other active yoga styles, yin yoga targets fascia, ligaments, joints etc.
Where do you find doctors like these?! My physical therapist at Kaiser doesn’t think like this at all and has given up on my condition. Where do I find people like this to work on me??
As a Doctor of Chinese Medicine with a decade of experience teaching cupping in a TCM school, I would like to address the issue of cultural appropriation. The use of pump cups and the concept of having the patient move with the cups on are well-established techniques in traditional cupping. The cups used in "MFD" are not a new device but are designed and manufactured for traditional cupping. Please acknowledge the history and origins of these techniques and refrain from claiming them as novel modalities. Recognizing and respecting the cultural heritage of traditional medicine is essential for promoting ethical and authentic practices.
This is very informative and paradigm shifting for treatment, prevention, and Life overall. Thank you for your work. Some poignant points: Moving our limbs in an accordion fashion. Not only do we have cells that are programmed to work in concert with a certain & specific pattern, but our muscles and fascia work and fire along a certain line and work together.” Fascia: hydration + layers + space “Myofascial decompression”: “movement re-education”
I have been battling chronic pain and fatigue for years. I have done cupping at my acupuncturist and it always helps. Idk if all this works but I am so glad their studying it finally! Would love to be their guinea pig on this and with all my issues they would love me as a study. Lol
Just now stumbling upon fascia/adhesion and the lateral line with the effects on other or oppossing muscles, causing extreme muscle imblanaces or compensation through the entire body much more intricate than one could imagine far from interesting!
Great presentation. Very informative. I would like to note that the negative pressure decompression that they speak of and aim to distinguish from traditional Chinese cupping is not so separate. To my knowledge there are a large variety old Chinese cupping techniques that are not only single stationary cups being left. There are movement based cupping techniques that sound just like what they are describing here. Although it has not been studied in quite the same way, what is being talked about here regarding holistic movement, the fascial feedback, kinetic chains, the connection of mobility and pain with the nervous system, etcetera, is a very old science not just in China. Just a little misunderstanding here, but that doesn't take away from how great of a video and the information shared here is 👍
Fascia is obviosly very important to movement and orthopedic medicine, but it is also the foundation of aesthetic medicine. As a plastic surgeon I understand that beauty is all about the right amount of fat in the right places, moving in the right way. The Superficial Fascia System controls all this! The breast, for instance is shaped by the SFS and youthful attractive breast have a healthy tensegrity.
Thanks for commenting this additional info! Please let me know if, in general, it may be ok to experiment by using very small cups around the muscular areas of my breasts? I'm healthy but that area has lacked tensegrity ever since puberty. Thank you.
This is so informative about fascia and the more I learn about fascia the more I realize I was misdiagnosed with sciatica issues. I have been applying facsia tools and I have been brusing but feeling better, I do look like I was kicked by a bunch of goats but the way i see it the fascia is being released from the 'knots' and being they were probably wrapped tight around blood vessels, causing the bruising. I wish they'd had released this years ago - there woudl be so many people releaved of pain even. I truly enjoyed this very informative video, thank you so much.
Excellent lecture. As an ol’fart who’s committed to a daily yoga practice, the only term I hear used more than Namaste is fascia. What I wonder about is how the sequence of postures matter; does one sequence improve the health of the fascia more than another? If so, why? Anyway, thanks for posting this lecture, it helped me understand why I’d better keep moving - correctly.
This is a really interesting piece. Not what I was looking for but it's provided me with lots of other useful info re fascia and movement. I would love a set of those slides!
How do they manage to make the cups stay attached to the body while moving since any slight movement or tension in the body would create a dent and make the cup loose pressure and fall eventually?! I am asking because I am familiar with the therapy and this is my own experience
I am 55 and beginning to hit the issues Christopher refers to. Stuff just hurts and I feel stiff for no reason. I do a lot of the things they recommend. Stretch when I walk my dog at night, roll with a foam roller and massage balls before going to bed and I really need to get back into yoga. I also feel that moving in and out of positions dynamically rather than static stretching may be important for me - ultimately that is what I want to be able to do so I should just do it. Getting old does suck from this perspective and it is a lot of work to stay mobile. I do think he was quite disrespectful of Chinese medicine. He has adapted their cupping therapy. He wouldn't be cupping if he hadn't been aware of it because of Chinese medicine. He has added a twist and can explain why it works a little better but he has appropriated their therapy and should recognize it.
Everyone appropriates from everyone. There is nothing new under the sun. Also, adding an electric current to acupuncture is a western discovery. Also, Chinese and all cultures use palpation before x-ray technology to look into the body, and this has been appropriated from again western societies and used by the world. People move from one culture to another bringing and sharing information. The Egyptians and even early the Mesopotamians used hot coals and magnetism for healing which has also been appropriate by Asian cultures, and others. Moving forward, in the scheme of things it really doesn’t matter who used what first, the most important thing is that everyone gets healed, and sharing information and technology is the right direction.
I have this from high velocity impact trauma with my lower spine.. for its for life but I do as much as the therapy I can he mentions .. not many therapist want to do this type of physical therapy
Until this video I thought physical therapy was quack science. And maybe it was before 20 years ago - when my last PT went to school. Like the question at the end asked - you need to find a PT who reads the professional literature and interview them!
They kind of do, but just not specifically to that condition. Although there are toe flexing muscles in the foot, the larger, stronger toe flexor have their muscle bellies on the posterior leg with long tendons that insert on the toes. Flexor Hallicus Longus (big toe), and Flexor Digitorum Longus (other 4 toes) Muscles pull by contracting and shortening the cells called sarcomeres. Then relax, and it's up to the antagonist muscles to pull in the other direction. Sometimes too many cells stay contracted, or the actin and myosin filaments within the cell stay in the shortened position. Think of stretching or "lengthening " the muscle as resetting the sarcomeres to their proper resting place. Like two people holding each other's wrists instead of holding each other's arm at the armpit. Not "lengthening" the original size, but not shortened anymore. I paused where he was talking about strengthening the antagonists of the shortened muscle. When it comes to hammer toe issues, the flexors, which also help plantar flex the ankle, are way stronger, and work way harder than the extensors.
Brilliant lecture touched on lots of ideas I have known a bit about but explains these concepts much more clearly with more clarity than other sources. Very inspiring on my journey of learning about the body and movement, posture and problems in muscles and fascia. Hugely appreciative for time and work put into making this video.
Oh my goodness thank you SO MUCH ❤ I am not only a runner, but a server as well! So I am constantly on my feet. it got soo much worse recently with my current work shoes! I could barely walk around my apt this whole week, I am in PAIN! I have had calloused foot-balls for years and now understand exactly why! People like us just need to take the extra precaution! Change your insoles out frequently and spend the money on your well deserved hard working feet! ❤
I love that you call Gua Sha, Gua Sha, and mention TCM as origin of cups (although I believe oldest records exist in Egypt) . Gua Sha and Cupping are primarily out of Eastern Medicine and we actually do the active cupping (you describe as being different from Eastern Practitioner techniques). In addition we also utilize sliding cupping which is in between stationary and active cupping, where the patient is not active but the cups are. Thanks again for at least acknowledging the source of these two bodywork modalities.
You need to get ahold of Ashley Black and her Fasciablaster innovation’s. She found the connection from Fascia, and Pain. How to use these amazing tools, to fix it, and restore your fascia, skin, ultimately your body.
39:05 oooo cool! Ultrasound imaging! My mom does this technology at work. She has a lot of experience looking mostly at veins, breasts, and fetuses, but I'm not sure how many muscle related exams she does.
THIS is everything I've been piecing together for the past ten years! SOOO cool...ok, ya, I'm geaking out! LOL; I'm a medical massage therapist. I use cups in this manner, have for last 8 years, also have many other toys/tools I integrate with the sessions...
Any vegas therapy recommendations? Iv had chronic painful left subscapular bursitis for 10 + years and seen so many doctors and had all of this done and more but none if it helps
After covid this lecture is all the more relevant. I have chronic pain at the crossed sections since the first year of lockdowns, even though I thought I was doing a good job of home exercising. I will look for a PT that knows their fascia/suction cup protocols 😂 Reply me if you have recs for Rotterdam/Amsterdam and nearby.
The better approach to pain management is to understand how interconnected our wonderful body is & try to restore the structural parts so pain will go & function restored. Taking painkillers not only mask the symptom & delay prompt treatments.
I have 3 advanced degrees and I have never heard of this thing called fascia that you are supposed to squash out by rolling a pool noodle over it. I just rolled a rolling pin under my bare foot and my heel feels better. I didn’t even notice that my heel was sore. Apparently I am rolling out fascia. Who knew?
I have a question here - how "cracking knuckles" release pressure? Would it help to crack our back, in order to restore mobility or even fluid-flow within and around some of the Intervertebral Discs?
@@cjennings6179 you believe adjusting your own bones help? My husband has adjusted his neck for years. He has our daughter stand on his back, adjusting and re-aligning his spine. I’ve always thought this was unsafe. He’s now 72 and moves easily, he’s strong, sleeps well. He doesn’t EAT good, I wish he would.
Thank you very much for this video. In your work with athletes, I would like to know to what degree you focus on an athlete's fascia without taking away their sporting uniqueness ie the "springs" that make them move. Athletes need a certain amount of tension in the body to get them to do their sport. How do you judge how much fascial manipulation is needed and when?
GUA SHA deep cross-friction massage technique helps to move fascia and increase flexibility in tissues to break adhesions together with stretching yoga ets. In order to change all misalignments in body need to be persistent and learn to handle pain cause stretching and massage hurts. Unfortunately to become flexible need one year of every day practice of 1.5 hour in addition with massage . A lot of body work of doing nothing over long period of time
I agree about the cross-friction stroke. I did a 9 day all day workshop with a woman who taught Russian Massage. You start out lightly so as to not cause the area to tighten up. She totally fixed a man's frozen injured shoulder by doing this one stroke for fifteen minutes everyday for 9 days. As each day went by she was able to go in deeper (without causing tension or inflammation), until he was totally fine. It taught me alot and I do not believe getting your fascia corrected has to be terribly painful. If it hurts too much you will unconsciously tense up.
this stiff is amazing. I came here to get info on the fascia & movement & I got way more information. thank you. this will help me when I'm a sliver sneakers instructor!
This is very fascinating. I have chronic pain and a friend told me about facia. I just wonder if all the “crunchy” feelings I have is not the joints and is the facia. I absolutely hate feeling that crunching feeling. I never crunched before I got a bad neck injury.
Very interesting . Thank you for valuable information . Only GUA SHA helps. Chiropractor I went to doesn't know about fascia importance. Physical therapist need to relicensed and treat suffering people differently right way. Foam rollers not enough to heal . Cupping didn't help . In order to move fascia need to move it and promote blood circulation. Cupping makes only temporary space and then everything goes back. They didn't mention about blocked meridians which cause many symptoms and health problems
Tommy Harrison didn't help because there is no appropriate way to make GUA SHA massage anywhere on Internet . Deep GUA SHA massage over stagnated area by putting body pressure helps . Just scraping on surface no use . In addition to deep layers GUA SHA massage yoga stretching by elongating fibers every day helps to release pain . I found out way to massage to release intensification . To make deep yoga stretching without this massage even dangerous .
Tommy Harris with deep tissue GUA SHA massage and yoga you’ll forever forget about foam rollers , tennis balls and whatever ;). There is something more then we think it’s right for us in rehabilitation sense . It’s absolutely new approach . I think how to bring it to people
Hi, how deep this decompression technique can reach ? Also, have you ever tested different shapes and sizes of theses decompression "balls" in order to have bigger effect ? Thanks
But Imagine, some Ancient ,Thousands of years ago, lit a jar with flame, into a cup. I had THAT done on a fotation with 2 other massage techniques. I ioived it. I have to do another round of this . THIS IS what got me straight and up. I fell again recently and covid happened, so ii couldnt get in person pt.. But i did ehat i learned with 20 years of PT 2/3x year for 6 weekes. Then met a lady that xid what your talking about,, and i vould DANCE again after 17 years with THIS.. I know its a year commitment, so i have rearranged my routine to focus on the first 4 months, then itll start feeling better anfter a period of increased pain. But the result.. is FABULOUS! if i fidnt fall HARD ,... AGAIN, Id be doing 5 times what i reduced to trying to wait till i donthave to get shot first. Im READY. breathe ..
Would appreciate if these doctors would respond to our questions. Possibly they are teaching students? I too would like the answer to this question. No cupping ability there. Maybe gliding back and forth cross cross pattern to soften the “honey.” (Collagen layer)
I see you mentioned a few contributors and pioneers in your talk. Why you missed F.M. Alexander and his work that goes back to the early 1900's I do not understand. Pretty much all the second half of your lecture could be looked at through the lens of the Alexander technique and he did so without the use of ultra-sound, MRI, microscopes, or decades of surgical analysis. He did it by observation; first of his own "Use" and then that of others. A very informative talk, but please give credit where credit is due and that means mentioning a true pioneer in the field of form, function, body-mind connectivity and education in movement analysis and rectification through mindfulness of action. F.M. Alexander and the Alexander technique. Then there is Ida Rolf (who you mention), Mabel Todd, Lulu Sweigard, the rip-off merchant Feldenkrais amongst others.
@@Lexa-ne1md Do your home work. He ripped a lot of FMs ideas off. When he visited FM in London FM threw him out and opened the window and threw Feldenkrais' book at him whilst he walked past (Classic FM move by all accounts) I trained for three years with John and Lyn Nicols, who trained with Walter Carrington who trained with FM himself. And Walter actually visited our training school and so he talked a lot about the old days and mentioned the Feldenkrais moment as he was there when it happened. When you know The Work of FM well you know the subtle nuances and as I've also done some Feldenkrais classes as well, I straight away knew where it had originated. Ida on the other hand was truly revolutionary. I have had some Rolfing sessions and they are a strong means to dramatic change in a short time whereas FM's work is a slow and Educational awareness style that elements of Zen in it. Anyway, do your home work. Figure what works for you. But try and give credit where credit due.
Although TCM cupping is done in a static state, it should be noted how it inspired you to use that modality to begin with. There must of been some efficacy for you to consider the use of this modality albeit modified. Also, would have been good to hear a bit more about massage, personal trainers, yoga therapists, the contribution of non-clinical folks who have been implementing many of the strategies you outline for years.
If motion is lotion so to speak, then why would a swimmer like Michael Phelps develop fascia problems when swimming is all about moving just about every muscle of your body’ in all directions.
In a nutshell, it's because stressful use of muscles creates micro trauma to the tissues, resulting in scar tissue formation and interruptions in the muscle fiber and fascial layers. It leads to bunching of fascia, calcium deposits and local dehydration
This whole talk was really fascinating. I especially enjoyed listening to the information about cupping. As a Muslim I have been researching wet cupping called Hijamah and it’s so amazing that our beloved prophet Muhammad mentioned this as a healing for many ailments 1400 years ago. The fact that western medicine is only just discovering this now leaves me in awe of my beautiful religion of Islam yet again
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I’m thankful that finally some of this info about Fascia is getting to the mainstream. I’d like to point to the historical line that has finally lead to what we see now entering the mainstream. Ida Rolf was developing and proclaiming much of this in the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s and developing work that includes the Fascial system in many of the ways that these physio’s are now describing. Also, Thomas Myers was a Rolfer, trained by Ida Rolf, who got his massage licence to be able to work in California. Please, give credit where credit is due.
Yeah they even used his diagrams and terms without crediting him. I’d be kicked out of my school for that, but I guess we have higher standards in West Virginia.
@ Vicki it’s basic plagiarism- high schoolers learn not to do it. If people don’t care, it shows something about them.
@ Vicki those of us who actually move science forward, academics, practitioners interested in furthering their studies, anyone who has intellectual property…the list goes on. The presenters themselves were in a hurry and couldn’t take the time to cite their sources verbally, we’re lazy and didn’t put the citations on their diagrams, but at least they had citations at the end of the PowerPoint that can be paused. So, your attitude is actually demeaning the presenters you think you are protecting. They had academic standards even if you don’t.
Thank you for that - it's good to not have women's innovative contributions ignored & erased.
The real credit is due to our ancient Advanced ancestors that been known of this thousands and thousands of years ago
Wow i went to a massage school 20 years ago and they were teaching us about this. Its really cool to see what they taught us was spot on and still relevant today, shout out to utah college of massage therapy, i went to their campus in Las Vegas, it closed down but the family of schools is still going strong
That is so good to know that they were ahead of the times. What is their network and education name that they are associated with and "still strong". Are they a major educational institution and do they still teach the core stuff like this?
@@MusicMagicXStream when i went to massage school it was called Utah college of massage therapy, las vegas campus they are now known as the Cortiva institute with the main campus still located in Salt lake City, im not sure if they were bought out or just rebranded but from what i can tell their core program is very similar to the program i went through back in 2003-2004, excellent program, excellent teachers and the classes still relevant decades later
It's disappointing that massage,so relevant to movement and curing pain, is third or 4th down the list for reimbursement if eligible at all! How long will we have to wait to be heard? Faced with this evidence, the MDs are scrambling to develop meds, machines, and prescribable methods to keep in the reimbursement stream! Watching them scramble!
I graduated from cortiva a few years back, and I absolutely loved the course. They really enriched me as a person all the while giving me the skillset to help people heal. I love it.
@@jameswyckoff759 i totally agree with that, i think people would be able to manage pain and other conditions much better and with less medication if insurance companies would start viewing massage therapy as a legit alternative therapy in the field of medicine instead of just a luxury people pay for once in a while, they could save themselves millions if they just opened their mind to the endless benefits that comes with receiving regular massages
Traditional Chinese Medicine has known about practically everything we are "rediscovering " and "rebranding" these days. I agree with other comments, give credit where it is due. It's not cutting edge just because you can now see thru an MRI what has been happening for literally millennia. Nonetheless, happy you and others are realizing the wisdom within such an ancient medicine. By the way, the acupuncture needles are doing the exact same thing you are achieving with "extreme" cupping and movements. With traditional cupping, max pumps are usually 3-4, any above will in fact cause damage to the underlying tissues, promoting scar tissue development.
Thank you for this comment! On point
Very Well said , our ancient ADVANCED ancestors had been mastered ourselves ,but what’s important is WE give them that credit , love and most importantly we continue in their footsteps and truly live As above As below
TCM did know about this, but not in the same way, that was way too esoteric. So esoteric that they couldn't tell modern medicine what and how to study it.
I was literally thinking the same thing. Give credit. It’s ok! It’s it going to take anything away from what’s currently being done.
Agreed, plus, to furhter your knowledge, cupping was used in many nations, not just Chinese. The interesting thing is how it was translated from China to lets say Slavic countries where it had been used and known as traditional people`s healing method, or rather one of the methods. "Modern" western society proclaimed this type of healing, including herbs, as old wife`s tale. Many have fallen into the trap of "modern times".
This is fantastic. One correction...DOs, Osteopathic Physicians, as a baseline, have a medical school curriculum of 200-300 hours dedicated to NeuroMusculoSkeletal integration into the anatomy and physiology didactics with treatment applications for pathophysiologic and dysfunctional ailments of the body. The specialists who focus on this are Osteopathic Manipulative/ NeuroMusculoSkeletal Medicine specialists. I would hope that this revision is made. Thanks and keep up the amazing work. I will use this to educate my patients and students/residents alike!
Most of my training has been with John T. Barnes and so happy to see these techniques becoming more mainstream after all these years. Made my job so much easier physically; helped more of my clients achieve goals and reduce unbearable pain; and has earned me more money then I could have imagined making doing body work. A paradigm change in our perspectives on human anatomy yet fully realized!
This was great and underlined what I already knew instinctively as a movement and massage therapist with good scientific detail.
I’ve noticed my fascia is working hard. It’s really helped with my physical therapy.
So incredible !!! None is in main stream media either !! This has helped me soooooo much !! Thank You !!
Thank you so much for sharing this, no way I could access this info in such a pedagogical way
Great info. I am sure you have heard of Rolfing where we use manual therapy to change the shape of the fascia creating space for movement w ease
This video was great. I would love to hear your thoughts about and/or see yin yoga included into the modalities that do similar things. Very different than other active yoga styles, yin yoga targets fascia, ligaments, joints etc.
Thank you to Mr Daprato and Mr Leung for a wonderful lecture.
Un immense merci plein d'amour ❤❤
Where do you find doctors like these?! My physical therapist at Kaiser doesn’t think like this at all and has given up on my condition. Where do I find people like this to work on me??
If you are in Southern calif.Jon Burras is the best.
As a Doctor of Chinese Medicine with a decade of experience teaching cupping in a TCM school, I would like to address the issue of cultural appropriation. The use of pump cups and the concept of having the patient move with the cups on are well-established techniques in traditional cupping. The cups used in "MFD" are not a new device but are designed and manufactured for traditional cupping. Please acknowledge the history and origins of these techniques and refrain from claiming them as novel modalities. Recognizing and respecting the cultural heritage of traditional medicine is essential for promoting ethical and authentic practices.
This is very informative and paradigm shifting for treatment, prevention, and Life overall. Thank you for your work.
Some poignant points:
Moving our limbs in an accordion fashion. Not only do we have cells that are programmed to work in concert with a certain & specific pattern, but our muscles and fascia work and fire along a certain line and work together.”
Fascia: hydration + layers + space
“Myofascial decompression”: “movement re-education”
haha SO happy that the fuzz speech was mentioned.. its one of my favorite videos to show to explain fascia to someone
I have been battling chronic pain and fatigue for years. I have done cupping at my acupuncturist and it always helps. Idk if all this works but I am so glad their studying it finally! Would love to be their guinea pig on this and with all my issues they would love me as a study. Lol
For chronic fatigue you have to also look into the mind and emotions, try something such as Bodytalk.
Take d ribbose and Q10 magnesium
Just now stumbling upon fascia/adhesion and the lateral line with the effects on other or oppossing muscles, causing extreme muscle imblanaces or compensation through the entire body much more intricate than one could imagine far from interesting!
I'm older, but always loved Rolfing, so i love this video. Thank you, so much, for this.
Yea Rolfers have known these principles for years.
@@Freeyourself206 If only Rolfing had a more encouraging name.
27:40 What's the reason we retire at 60-65 yo ? -> Just because our body is now our full-time job !!!
Great presentation. Very informative.
I would like to note that the negative pressure decompression that they speak of and aim to distinguish from traditional Chinese cupping is not so separate. To my knowledge there are a large variety old Chinese cupping techniques that are not only single stationary cups being left. There are movement based cupping techniques that sound just like what they are describing here. Although it has not been studied in quite the same way, what is being talked about here regarding holistic movement, the fascial feedback, kinetic chains, the connection of mobility and pain with the nervous system, etcetera, is a very old science not just in China. Just a little misunderstanding here, but that doesn't take away from how great of a video and the information shared here is 👍
Yes, you are correct, thank you for taking the time to make this point.
Excellent descriptions
Fascia is obviosly very important to movement and orthopedic medicine, but it is also the foundation of aesthetic medicine. As a plastic surgeon I understand that beauty is all about the right amount of fat in the right places, moving in the right way. The Superficial Fascia System controls all this! The breast, for instance is shaped by the SFS and youthful attractive breast have a healthy tensegrity.
Thanks for commenting this additional info! Please let me know if, in general, it may be ok to experiment by using very small cups around the muscular areas of my breasts? I'm healthy but that area has lacked tensegrity ever since puberty. Thank you.
This is so informative about fascia and the more I learn about fascia the more I realize I was misdiagnosed with sciatica issues. I have been applying facsia tools and I have been brusing but feeling better, I do look like I was kicked by a bunch of goats but the way i see it the fascia is being released from the 'knots' and being they were probably wrapped tight around blood vessels, causing the bruising. I wish they'd had released this years ago - there woudl be so many people releaved of pain even.
I truly enjoyed this very informative video, thank you so much.
Excellent lecture. As an ol’fart who’s committed to a daily yoga practice, the only term I hear used more than Namaste is fascia. What I wonder about is how the sequence of postures matter; does one sequence improve the health of the fascia more than another? If so, why? Anyway, thanks for posting this lecture, it helped me understand why I’d better keep moving - correctly.
This is a really interesting piece. Not what I was looking for but it's provided me with lots of other useful info re fascia and movement. I would love a set of those slides!
just finished my degree in exercise and wellness from ASU. I loved this lecture. Thank you!
I’ve had an hamstring/glute injury for 9 weeks now n have done an ultrasound, mri, n x-ray on it but nothing came up. Is it a problem in my fascia?
I did some relief on my legs last night... and i feel Great today. I'm shocked how TIGHT is was. I mean a lot of tension
How do they manage to make the cups stay attached to the body while moving since any slight movement or tension in the body would create a dent and make the cup loose pressure and fall eventually?! I am asking because I am familiar with the therapy and this is my own experience
I am 55 and beginning to hit the issues Christopher refers to. Stuff just hurts and I feel stiff for no reason. I do a lot of the things they recommend. Stretch when I walk my dog at night, roll with a foam roller and massage balls before going to bed and I really need to get back into yoga. I also feel that moving in and out of positions dynamically rather than static stretching may be important for me - ultimately that is what I want to be able to do so I should just do it.
Getting old does suck from this perspective and it is a lot of work to stay mobile.
I do think he was quite disrespectful of Chinese medicine. He has adapted their cupping therapy. He wouldn't be cupping if he hadn't been aware of it because of Chinese medicine. He has added a twist and can explain why it works a little better but he has appropriated their therapy and should recognize it.
Everyone appropriates from everyone. There is nothing new under the sun. Also, adding an electric current to acupuncture is a western discovery. Also, Chinese and all cultures use palpation before x-ray technology to look into the body, and this has been appropriated from again western societies and used by the world. People move from one culture to another bringing and sharing information. The Egyptians and even early the Mesopotamians used hot coals and magnetism for healing which has also been appropriate by Asian cultures, and others. Moving forward, in the scheme of things it really doesn’t matter who used what first, the most important thing is that everyone gets healed, and sharing information and technology is the right direction.
Yeah making money
I have this from high velocity impact trauma with my lower spine.. for its for life but I do as much as the therapy I can he mentions .. not many therapist want to do this type of physical therapy
Such amazing lecture! Thank you! It explains a lot about chronic pain! 🙏
Until this video I thought physical therapy was quack science. And maybe it was before 20 years ago - when my last PT went to school. Like the question at the end asked - you need to find a PT who reads the professional literature and interview them!
I appreciate this video
Could you address hammer toes and the chronological progression of their development, and how to reverse this?
They kind of do, but just not specifically to that condition.
Although there are toe flexing muscles in the foot, the larger, stronger toe flexor have their muscle bellies on the posterior leg with long tendons that insert on the toes. Flexor Hallicus Longus (big toe), and Flexor Digitorum Longus (other 4 toes)
Muscles pull by contracting and shortening the cells called sarcomeres. Then relax, and it's up to the antagonist muscles to pull in the other direction.
Sometimes too many cells stay contracted, or the actin and myosin filaments within the cell stay in the shortened position. Think of stretching or "lengthening " the muscle as resetting the sarcomeres to their proper resting place. Like two people holding each other's wrists instead of holding each other's arm at the armpit.
Not "lengthening" the original size, but not shortened anymore.
I paused where he was talking about strengthening the antagonists of the shortened muscle.
When it comes to hammer toe issues, the flexors, which also help plantar flex the ankle, are way stronger, and work way harder than the extensors.
I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome type 3 Hypermobility i wish he would have discussed it further
I've got hypomobilty loads of joints but not sure if have eds the fascia causing my pain u can twist sounds like velcro
Amazing video ❤
Brilliant lecture touched on lots of ideas I have known a bit about but explains these concepts much more clearly with more clarity than other sources. Very inspiring on my journey of learning about the body and movement, posture and problems in muscles and fascia. Hugely appreciative for time and work put into making this video.
Oh my goodness thank you SO MUCH ❤ I am not only a runner, but a server as well! So I am constantly on my feet. it got soo much worse recently with my current work shoes! I could barely walk around my apt this whole week, I am in PAIN! I have had calloused foot-balls for years and now understand exactly why! People like us just need to take the extra precaution! Change your insoles out frequently and spend the money on your well deserved hard working feet! ❤
Do you have any course materials on learning more about this subject ?
I love that you call Gua Sha, Gua Sha, and mention TCM as origin of cups (although I believe oldest records exist in Egypt) . Gua Sha and Cupping are primarily out of Eastern Medicine and we actually do the active cupping (you describe as being different from Eastern Practitioner techniques). In addition we also utilize sliding cupping which is in between stationary and active cupping, where the patient is not active but the cups are. Thanks again for at least acknowledging the source of these two bodywork modalities.
Yeah, pretty cool to see these finally getting some of the respect and place they deserve.
You need to get ahold of Ashley Black and her Fasciablaster innovation’s. She found the connection from Fascia, and Pain. How to use these amazing tools, to fix it, and restore your fascia, skin, ultimately your body.
Massage Therapists use these modalities as well!
What would help me move smoother and more fluent? Like in sports. I’m stiff and rigid. I have a friend that glides and moves diff then everyone.
so helpful, so good
Brilliant. Thank you.
Enough about how great u r , get to the info
Ungrateful
ur teaching method is too effective sir ,thanks alot to spread your knowledge....
39:05 oooo cool! Ultrasound imaging! My mom does this technology at work. She has a lot of experience looking mostly at veins, breasts, and fetuses, but I'm not sure how many muscle related exams she does.
Teacup exercises are a major game changer.
What is tea cup exercise. Thank you
Wonderful speech!!! Thank you.
Absolute gold 🥇
When he said fascinated and not fascia-nated I was disappointed lol
THIS is everything I've been piecing together for the past ten years! SOOO cool...ok, ya, I'm geaking out! LOL; I'm a medical massage therapist. I use cups in this manner, have for last 8 years, also have many other toys/tools I integrate with the sessions...
Any vegas therapy recommendations? Iv had chronic painful left subscapular bursitis for 10 + years and seen so many doctors and had all of this done and more but none if it helps
Also do Yamuna Body Rolling! creates space in joints :)
After covid this lecture is all the more relevant. I have chronic pain at the crossed sections since the first year of lockdowns, even though I thought I was doing a good job of home exercising. I will look for a PT that knows their fascia/suction cup protocols 😂 Reply me if you have recs for Rotterdam/Amsterdam and nearby.
The better approach to pain management is to understand how interconnected our wonderful body is & try to restore the structural parts so pain will go & function restored. Taking painkillers not only mask the symptom & delay prompt treatments.
Amazing lecture! Thanks so much for posting this.
Thank you so much for sharing this amazing knowledge. You're helping a lot of people there!
i didn't notice it until this time i need to research it to treat :0 it"t very incredible
thank you very much.
Thanks!
I have 3 advanced degrees and I have never heard of this thing called fascia that you are supposed to squash out by rolling a pool noodle over it. I just rolled a rolling pin under my bare foot and my heel feels better. I didn’t even notice that my heel was sore. Apparently I am rolling out fascia. Who knew?
Schools are a scam 😁
I have a question here - how "cracking knuckles" release pressure? Would it help to crack our back, in order to restore mobility or even fluid-flow within and around some of the Intervertebral Discs?
Yep!
@@cjennings6179 you believe adjusting your own bones help? My husband has adjusted his neck for years. He has our daughter stand on his back, adjusting and re-aligning his spine. I’ve always thought this was unsafe. He’s now 72 and moves easily, he’s strong, sleeps well. He doesn’t EAT good, I wish he would.
Could controlled inflammation like bee stings produce similar pressure by swelling up a certain area ? Thanks
Fantastic lecture!! Thank you!
After I took the antibiotic cipro my body feels pain all over.
How should facia dysfunction under scalp be treated. I get whitish color with oil spots when washish scalp. Also alot of dull pain and brain fog.
Soooo good !!!
Thank you very much for this video. In your work with athletes, I would like to know to what degree you focus on an athlete's fascia without taking away their sporting uniqueness ie the "springs" that make them move. Athletes need a certain amount of tension in the body to get them to do their sport. How do you judge how much fascial manipulation is needed and when?
GUA SHA deep cross-friction massage technique helps to move fascia and increase flexibility in tissues to break adhesions together with stretching yoga ets. In order to change all misalignments in body need to be persistent and learn to handle pain cause stretching and massage hurts. Unfortunately to become flexible need one year of every day practice of 1.5 hour in addition with massage . A lot of body work of doing nothing over long period of time
I agree about the cross-friction stroke. I did a 9 day all day workshop with a woman who taught Russian Massage. You start out lightly so as to not cause the area to tighten up. She totally fixed a man's frozen injured shoulder by doing this one stroke for fifteen minutes everyday for 9 days. As each day went by she was able to go in deeper (without causing tension or inflammation), until he was totally fine. It taught me alot and I do not believe getting your fascia corrected has to be terribly painful. If it hurts too much you will unconsciously tense up.
this stiff is amazing. I came here to get info on the fascia & movement & I got way more information. thank you. this will help me when I'm a sliver sneakers instructor!
This is very fascinating. I have chronic pain and a friend told me about facia. I just wonder if all the “crunchy” feelings I have is not the joints and is the facia. I absolutely hate feeling that crunching feeling. I never crunched before I got a bad neck injury.
It's most likely scar tissue and adhesions from your injury recovery.
How are you now I crunch it's the fascia I've had no injury in the area
Fabulous lesson.
Thanks so much ❤❤❤
Very informative with restoration of my own body. Thank you for this...!!!
thanks for sharing, very good and informative lection
Love this!! TY so much!!!
Love Fascia! I train my fascia at Fascia Love
Where that at
Do tai chi!
Very interesting . Thank you for valuable information . Only GUA SHA helps. Chiropractor I went to doesn't know about fascia importance. Physical therapist need to relicensed and treat suffering people differently right way. Foam rollers not enough to heal . Cupping didn't help . In order to move fascia need to move it and promote blood circulation. Cupping makes only temporary space and then everything goes back. They didn't mention about blocked meridians which cause many symptoms and health problems
Tommy Harrison didn't help because there is no appropriate way to make GUA SHA massage anywhere on Internet . Deep GUA SHA massage over stagnated area by putting body pressure helps . Just scraping on surface no use . In addition to deep layers GUA SHA massage yoga stretching by elongating fibers every day helps to release pain . I found out way to massage to release intensification . To make deep yoga stretching without this massage even dangerous .
Active stretching is not going to release nodules. Maybe it helped you to release nodules by stretching ?
Tommy Harris can you make middle split already ?
Tommy Harris with deep tissue GUA SHA massage and yoga you’ll forever forget about foam rollers , tennis balls and whatever ;). There is something more then we think it’s right for us in rehabilitation sense . It’s absolutely new approach . I think how to bring it to people
Tommy Harris there are many fancy things exist but way out is radical unfortunately
Hi, how deep this decompression technique can reach ? Also, have you ever tested different shapes and sizes of theses decompression "balls" in order to have bigger effect ? Thanks
But Imagine, some Ancient ,Thousands of years ago, lit a jar with flame, into a cup.
I had THAT done on a fotation with 2 other massage techniques. I ioived it.
I have to do another round of this . THIS IS what got me straight and up. I fell again recently and covid happened, so ii couldnt get in person pt..
But i did ehat i learned with 20 years of PT 2/3x year for 6 weekes. Then met a lady that xid what your talking about,, and i vould DANCE again after 17 years with THIS..
I know its a year commitment, so i have rearranged my routine to focus on the first 4 months, then itll start feeling better anfter a period of increased pain. But the result.. is FABULOUS! if i fidnt fall HARD ,... AGAIN, Id be doing 5 times what i reduced to trying to wait till i donthave to get shot first.
Im READY. breathe ..
How would disfunctioning fascia. Under scalp affect you? Great lecture
What kind of exercise to do when tight muscle is on top of head?
Would appreciate if these doctors would respond to our questions. Possibly they are teaching students? I too would like the answer to this question. No cupping ability there. Maybe gliding back and forth cross cross pattern to soften the “honey.” (Collagen layer)
Cool stuff!
I see you mentioned a few contributors and pioneers in your talk. Why you missed F.M. Alexander and his work that goes back to the early 1900's I do not understand. Pretty much all the second half of your lecture could be looked at through the lens of the Alexander technique and he did so without the use of ultra-sound, MRI, microscopes, or decades of surgical analysis. He did it by observation; first of his own "Use" and then that of others. A very informative talk, but please give credit where credit is due and that means mentioning a true pioneer in the field of form, function, body-mind connectivity and education in movement analysis and rectification through mindfulness of action. F.M. Alexander and the Alexander technique. Then there is Ida Rolf (who you mention), Mabel Todd, Lulu Sweigard, the rip-off merchant Feldenkrais amongst others.
Ron Gallagher and John Barnes physical therapist , pioneer on Myofascial Release
@@Lexa-ne1md Do your home work. He ripped a lot of FMs ideas off. When he visited FM in London FM threw him out and opened the window and threw Feldenkrais' book at him whilst he walked past (Classic FM move by all accounts) I trained for three years with John and Lyn Nicols, who trained with Walter Carrington who trained with FM himself. And Walter actually visited our training school and so he talked a lot about the old days and mentioned the Feldenkrais moment as he was there when it happened. When you know The Work of FM well you know the subtle nuances and as I've also done some Feldenkrais classes as well, I straight away knew where it had originated. Ida on the other hand was truly revolutionary. I have had some Rolfing sessions and they are a strong means to dramatic change in a short time whereas FM's work is a slow and Educational awareness style that elements of Zen in it.
Anyway, do your home work. Figure what works for you. But try and give credit where credit due.
Awesome explanation! Can't wait to try these techniques.
Good lecture. Except for saying ok constantly.
Effing brilliant.
Great lecture and so helpful too! Thank you!
36:25 we treat active and latent TrP
Great informative video about myofascia
Although TCM cupping is done in a static state, it should be noted how it inspired you to use that modality to begin with. There must of been some efficacy for you to consider the use of this modality albeit modified. Also, would have been good to hear a bit more about massage, personal trainers, yoga therapists, the contribution of non-clinical folks who have been implementing many of the strategies you outline for years.
If motion is lotion so to speak, then why would a swimmer like Michael Phelps develop fascia problems when swimming is all about moving just about every muscle of your body’ in all directions.
I am also wondering that way..
In a nutshell, it's because stressful use of muscles creates micro trauma to the tissues, resulting in scar tissue formation and interruptions in the muscle fiber and fascial layers. It leads to bunching of fascia, calcium deposits and local dehydration
Also, when a muscle contracts, the stronger contraction, the stronger the electromagnetic field (piezoelectric) which signals the fascia to grow!
This whole talk was really fascinating. I especially enjoyed listening to the information about cupping. As a Muslim I have been researching wet cupping called Hijamah and it’s so amazing that our beloved prophet Muhammad mentioned this as a healing for many ailments 1400 years ago. The fact that western medicine is only just discovering this now leaves me in awe of my beautiful religion of Islam yet again
Great!