SVS PB-2000 PRO SUBWOOFER REVIEW W/ Q&A PC-2000 Pro SB-2000 Pro
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
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The PB-2000 Pro is exceptional. Same exact dimensions with an extra port, but noticeably more explosiveness.
I would have preferred the metal grill myself, but sadly they NO LONGER OFFER IT as an extra option.
**They did for a while, but they are no longer offering the metal grill as a separate purchase.**
I mention briefly that it could be room correction causing the increased relative infrasonic bass. It's just something that can happen, but the key is being able to adjust the PEQ's in the SVS App.
The SVS PEQ Setting of 29 hertz, 4 boost, 2.5 Q works great in my room using dual subs. If you are running a single sub, you can try it, but I wouldn't expect such a tidy response curve. Duals Matter!
Room EQ Wizard is free, and lets you measure your in room bass response. It has a learning curve, but it's not too bad. Using the SVS App is a LOT easier than a MiniDSP 2X4.
Measurement Mic for use with Room EQ Wizard (free software):
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Definitely stay tuned!!
A WORD OF ADVICE:
If you currently have these subs, or any other SVS subwoofers, try running MORE GAIN than usual.
One of the great things about ported deep bass subwoofers is that you can run MORE bass before it sounds overdone. This is why a subwoofer with a lower "Max SPL" can actually deliver more bass overall *IN PRACTICE*.
If you let room correction set the levels, it will not be enough bass for you, I can almost guarantee it.
Check out my Gain Hack, Adjusting Subs by Ear, Crossover Hack, and Distance Hack videos. The whole "Bass Hack" video series is helpful, but those in particular can make a positive and dramatic difference, FOR FREE:
**BASS HACK SERIES**: • Bite-sized Bass Hacks
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Just purchased a pair of these today! I wanted to nerd out on them while I set here waiting for them to arrive. You certainly delivered. Great video. Highly detailed.
Just got my dual PB2000 Pros set up over the weekend. They are unbelievable subs!! They are absofrigginlutely worth the money! Watched the intro to Live, Die, Repeat at reference levels. The neighbor came over to see what the hell I added to my theater. Said he was feeling the bass in his house. They replaced a 20-year-old, single, Velodyne 15" sub. Best money I have spent so far upgrading my HT. Thanks for the very detailed review.
Thank you for this review! I ordered a PB2k Pro but they were back ordered though I didn't mind waiting. I kept watching your other reviews and you then sold me on the PB3k so I sent an email to SVS and they seamlessly canceled my PB2k Pro for the PB3k.... shout out to Scott Miller! I can't wait to finally be part of The Brotherhood of Bass... no disrespect to my Klipsch RW-12d. I didn't go duals as I don't have the space at the moment.... but I will. Awesome channel... I liked and now follow.
Thank you for the tip on the Parametric EQ! I noticed that the PB-2000 Pro I received about a week ago was missing a little output in the upper bass range compared to my old PC12-PLUS. I will adjust the P-EQ this weekend and do some testing.
I'm glad it helped!
Thanks for being the first to do a real review on the SVS PB-2000 pros. Everyone has been waiting for a real review on these SUBS. I ordered mine 2 days ago and feel confident/ assured that i made the right decision after watching your review. Tuesday can't come soon enough !!!
Thanks! Let me know how you like them!
chris Have fun with your dual PB-2000 pros.
You gonna love'm chris
Today is your big day isnt it
@@waymonfrench2077 My bathroom door is now a passive radiator!!!! AMAZING!!!!
Just Upgraded my PB2000 to a PB2000 PRO after 30day trial of the PB2000.. Just the first movie a could tell the difference in how the bass fills my room. Amazing !! and im just running a single. The app is amazing and worth the cost of upgrade by itself .
I´m running 2 PB 1000 for a few years now and super happy with them! Before the PB 1000´s I had a single PB 12 plus, definitly would recommend SBA over Single Sub!
Love the channel and really appreciate your knowledge! I have a question, in one of your videos you mentioned shaping the curve of the sealed subs to mimic the ported ones. Using the svs app with my sb 2k pro’s where would be a good place to start? Meaning hz, db and q factor settings. Thanks in advance
Thank you. I was on the fence with PB2000
This was the vid on the eq in app with 29 hz 4 boost i used this setting and love it made huge difference
It's a nice little boost indeed.
Subwoofer 101 yes definitely what do you usually set your lfe to this setting always gets me i have mine at 100
I have been meaning to ask how did the prime elevation sound ?
Thanks for telling us that the grill of the pb2000 is compatible! And..beautiful dogs :D
Thank you, yes the grill part I was particularly happy about.
I'm definitely blessed with these dogs, thank you.
I finally have dual PB-1000's in my family room. They hit hard and dig deep. I look forward to putting dual PB-2000 Pro's in my basement.
Congrats! Now you can go through movies and music hearing things you never could before. It really does change everything.
You'll definitely notice more explosiveness with the Pro's. They really kick.
Have you been through my Bass Hack videos yet?
The PB-1000 responds well to the Gain Hack.
The Distance Hack, Crossover Hack, Adjusting Subs By Ear, and unlocking your Blu Ray player are really beneficial too.
Curious what you think after you get the Pro's in.
You'll have a good first hand experience of what I mean by high quality deep bass (PB-1000 and PB-2000 original) vs premium bass (PB-2000 Pro and up) and I'm always curious how others experience it.
Subscribed! Thanks for providing great content. Im currently looking for a sub for my klipsch rp-280 towers. I'm debating between the monolith 12 and the pb 2000 pro, and then getting a 2nd eventually down the line. Which would you recommend?
Thanks a bunch. I have this coming in two days thanks to you
really appreciate it a lot!
didn’t know the difference between the 2000 an 2000 pro and even someone at svs said just get the non pros to save some cash...so i would have missed out..i just ordered 2 pc2000 pro’s instead!!
You are welcome,
Your reviews are great.
I will buy a second PB 4000.
I appreciate it!!
Great review. I got it when released. Spent since then tweaking the PEQ to rise the 15db 50Hz dip. Could only raise it a few db but SVS said not to have too much +db. Today I had a play with phase and the polarity. Phase did nothing but switching to negative polarity raised the dip by around 5db and also raised 20hz and lower making sub sound warmer and definitely better. I felt sofa vibrate al low levels. When I run a freq sweep all frees sound same so trusting ears not miniDSP and rew. Only problem with sub is I've been awake all night many nights watching film after film. Best upgrade I've made.
You sound like me ,I've spent a lot of time with watching movies what sub you pb or sb pros
@@waymonfrench2077 pb2000 pro
@@lohanette yeah that's what I have ,these things seem to amaze me each day ,you like yours what's your thoughts
@@waymonfrench2077 love mine. Not watched a film thru cinema system for a few weeks so ears got used to TV speakers. Watched movie yesterday thru system and was blown away by sub all over again. Had Rel and B&W subs and the 2000 pro is far better. Cracks in wall now
@@lohanette congratulations, yeah I've been watching alot of movies seen saving private ryan with these and was impressed
Finally! A review of the pb2000 pro! Thx!
I disagree with the av receiver analogy though, especially in 2020. You definitely will get many more audio video quality options with the higher end receivers than the budget models.....things like hdmi 2.1, Dolby Vision, HDR10, VRR, Imax enhanced, Auro 3d, Audyssey room correction, etc. etc. that you won't find with the cheaper models. If you have the gear to take advantage of those things, the audio/video difference will be massive, much as it would going from a budget 1080p tv to a 2020 4k lg b/c series and up oled.
I agree with your point. I was thinking just in audible differences.
Still, given the choice between a cheaper X3300 AVR and dual Pro's, or a X6500 and basic subs, I'd go with the X3300 and Pro combo all day long.
Yes finally
Thank you for the review :)
I kind of stole your eq hack in the dsp on my pb2000 pros at 29hz. Wow! Another dimension!
Thank you so much for that!
First time watcher of this channel. Great content and great channel!
Your exactly right just bought one today 2000 pro wow my system has gone next level it a huge difference your so right ! And my volume-17 and filter on 75 if i was to get another would it be better to put one front and one back or 2 up front my room 7 meters long and 6 meters wide
Great review and insight
Just got 2 PROS and man they are incredible subs,still making some adjustments learning how to use the app but you helped my decision Thanks
Midway is a really impressive movie with these subs. Gobs of bass. Incredible is you like war movies.
Glad to have helped!
Congratulations Gino I got mine three weeks ago
Midway is a Beast on the Bass! Get it it in 4K!
@@Subwoofer101 hey ,would it be ok to set my pb2000 pros gain at 0
@@j2daj23 lol,my neighbor has that movie in 4k ,I have everything for 4k tv,demon reciever, oppo 203 bluray player and just got svs dual pb2000 pros, what's your gain settings and your reciever trim settings if you don't mind sharing sir, trying to getting subs blended in these things are no joke
Great video. Do you have to run them in for a set amount of hours or can you just let them loose from the get go?
The original PB 2000 is on sale today for $700. The Pro is $1100. If the gap was a little smaller I’d go with the Pros without thinking much, but $400 difference is making this very tough for me
I have 3 Subs; 2x PB-2000 and an older Polk. I will be replacing the Polk with another PB-2000, just debating if it will be the Pro or the older unit. Btw, when homeboy is shooting that rifle in the Accountant, those subs really make it sound like you are right there. I just keep rewinding the movie to hear those shots. Man. it rocks the house.
Would you recommend using the SVS Sattelites as surround and rear, combined with the Prime Bookshelve and Prime Center for front?
great review! what is the exact height of the woofer,. excluding the bottom legs?
LHi i like your channel very much and its interesting how you set the subs Recently i bought dual 2000 pros which i set them with audessy and they where not that punchy But after i saw how you set PQ on the app it really made my day What i want to ask is this putting the sub to stress more and in the long run maybe damage the sub .Thanks and keep on posting
What should one look for in an intergrated amp to get the most of the sub?
So I have the pb-2000 pro duals and I'm lovin it but I follow this SVS page on Facebook and alot of people recommended the pb3000 makes a huge difference. Is it really that much of a difference or is my pb-2000 pro good enough?
Hey , do you recommend having two different types of subwoofers as long as their duals? Im getting a good deal on the PB2000 original and later on deciding on buying the pb 2000 pro. is there much difference between the old version and the new one?
you never want to do that, he says dual originals over 1 SB 2000 Pro
Great videos as always from u. A question....
When u are watching a Movie what volume/db are playing at?
You have the pro series
I have a question, is this subwoofer comparable to the Paradigm ps 1000?
I have an old Paradigm ps 1000 subwoofer and I want to upgrade it.
Is the svs pb2000 subwoofer an upgrade over the one I have?
Hi guys I actually own a single Rel HT 1205. Let me tell you that Rel is very detailed and refined compared to SVS pb 1000 i used to own. Ok pb 1000 did go lower (19hz) and made us feel the scenes below 21 hz, but thats the only praise i can honestly give it. Other than that, compared to the Rel SVS was boomy and one note, for example there was a night club scene with loud music and i could not work out the conversetion that was being had, but once i changed to the REL the same scene was so much cleaner (still loud) but i could hear and understand the speech going on in the club scene. Not just only that, but in so many aspects of all movies i watch i smile and realised i made the right choice. Guys trust me, just to feel some parts ( not many ) in certain movies you really dont wanna spoil the rest of the movie with boomy one not bass. You shoul enjoy all parts of a movie with a subwoofer not just some parts. Also Rel has been making only subwoofers for years, dont you think they now how to make ported subwoofers for movies, there is a reason why they dont go down that root, and that is because they put QUALİTY, DETAIL and SPEED of sound first.
Keep up the good work brother enjoy your videos
Thanks! Always appreciate you stopping by!
What about the combination of one PB-3000 and a PB-2000 PRO (as a "backup sound for the rear part of the room)? Do you think it will blend it nice?
I currently own an original pb 2000 and want to add another, should I try to find a used pb2000 or would I be ok buying a new pb 2000 pro, will the original and the pro sound good together?
Hey would it be better to go with one Pb 2000 pro or Pb 3000 if I can only afford one?
I have the Klipsch SW-115 subwoofer. Is it safe to turn up the gsin to 65% or 70% without damaging the subwoofer?
Thanks
Another great review.
Oh wow, looks like a great sub. I have an Old PB 1000 and boy that thing never stops to amaze me. I might go dual PB1000 for my room and EQ them via a minidsp 2x4HD. Hence would really love it if you could put out a Video on using REW with Minidsp for a basic 2.1 or 2.2 setup.
If you watched the whole video the dude talked about how complicated using a miniDSP is which would lead one to believe it’s not something he engages in.... so why would you request a video about exactly that 😐
what was the video that you had about the PB 2000 Pro? how to set it up on the app to give it more base?
I bought a single PB 2K Pro and getting a 2nd 1 later. I bought those isolation feet and boy it really made a difference sitting on carpet floor.
When you get the second one, be sure to run room correction again. Congrats! These are fun subs!
@@Subwoofer101 thanks for the review sir!
@@Subwoofer101 questions I have dual pb2000 pros I got my gain set on-1 is that to low
Two pb2000 pros are nice I have them
@@Subwoofer101 thanks for the review sir,I'm glad it was you first
Can you make video on the SVS app. Learn how to get the most out of it
What tools and software so I need to test those measurements? I just purchased a 2000 pro and sb 3000. Testing both with the wife's space approval. Just played around with those settings and wow
Made a noticable different
Oops, I forgot to ask too. I have a Svs Sb-2000 in the room. Can I put the Sb-2000 with the future PB-2000 pro together in the cinema so that i can get more bass impact in movies? Or it is not worth putting them together. Thanks in advance
Just ordered one for my Klipsch theater! I had a Klipsch 10" sub I can't wait to hear what everyone is always talking about!
there great subs I have duals pb2000 pro they do a fantastic job with movies and music
Kyle Shays I have dual SB-2k pro’s and they produce subterranean, deep gutter punch you in the face bass! In a controlled sophisticated manor. Everyone says the PB’s dig deeper so you should enjoy them.
@@gbutta1126 what your gain setting on subs
@@waymonfrench2077 SVS recommends -10dB on the sub then running auto cal, but mine sounds good at -18dB. Probably because I have a small room.
@@kyleshays I had mine at 25 and it sound good I have a small room aswell 22×18×8 I'm watching hacksaw ridge right now and the explosion are insane,you ever get a chance watch angel has fallen saving private ryan that's insane aswell lol even though I done seen these before just not with this kinda bass lol
I've been watching this channel for years, and I've always wanted to try SVS. Now that one of my Klipsch subs died, I replaced both with PB-2000 Pros. I couldn't be happier with them. However, I'm wondering if I'm sensitive to infrasonics. I feel the pressure you've described getting from sealed box subs. I've only had the SVS subs for a day, so it may just take some fine-tuning to maybe mitigate that ear pressure.
Congrats on your new Pro's!
Something I've noticed with infrasonic bass is that for me, it all seems to be about balance. The ratio of infrasonic bass to audible bass.
I won't bog you down with my complete thoughts on it, but I'll tell how I adjusted the Pro's to deal with the infrasonic issue.
Hop into the SVS app, and go to the Parametric EQ, and activate 1 PEQ to the following values:
Frequency= 29
Boost= +6
Q Factor= 2.5
After that, you might need to adjust the gain a little, or not, it depends on your preference.
It could also be the way room correction set things up, or a few other things like having seating too close to walls, but give that a shot first.
Hopefully that will get the balance right. I also highly recommend my Distance Hack.
Let me know how that goes!
@@Subwoofer101 I will give that PEQ adjustment a shot. Audyssey did a great job with everything except the subs. I had to use the gain and distance hacks for those. Thinking of trying REW at some point as well. Anyway, thanks for the reply and for the adjustment tip.
Hi what you recommend
PB 2000 or SB 3000 ?
Great video! So question - I can't do dual PB-2KPros but what it be bad to have a single PB-1000 Pro and a PB-2000 Pro? The issue right now is space and the wife acceptance factor due to living room furniture arrangements lol.
Question for you: Two SB-2000 Pro's vs. Two SB-3000's? Which wins on the quality of bass? Output?
depends on your room size in cubic feet, if it's a room with a door or living room style all make a huge difference. WXLXH = cubic feet. Check the general recommendations for room size.
Somehow I missed this comment. Dual SB-3000's will do a better job in every way, as dual SB-2000 Pro's are just a little less in pretty much every measure.
I don't usually listen to sealed subs, but knowing the trends in the SVS subwoofer line, I have no reason to believe otherwise.
@@Subwoofer101 Would you say the same for "P"B-2000 Pro vs "S"B-3000?
I ask since they are currently both about the same price. Would the upgrade "make up" for the fact that it's a sealed sub? If I remember well, you wrote on "The List" page that you considered the sb-3000 had somewhat of a ported sound.
Thanks!
Hello do you know if a PB 3000 Pro maybe in the works?
After seeing your review... I have a really big question... for about the same budget is it better to have ONE PB-2000 PRO or a DUAL PB-1000 ? Thanks for your review !
@Uncle Rusty wow ! Thx for your response ! I will definitely care that to consideration !
can you use two different subs I have a PB2000 and then I'm going to pair it with infinity r12 would that work let me know
Nice video as always, according to your experience would I feel a huge difference between the new PB-1000 Pro and the PB-2000 Pro? I got the PB-1000 PRO and now I have doubts and is it OK if I buy a PB-2000 Pro and mix them(one PB-1000 Pro and one PB-2000 Pro) . Thanks
Hey I know your question is an old one but he didn’t respond to you so I wanted to put my two cents in I bought two 2000 pro and one 1000 pro and calibrated my system and it sounds awesome
If you put a 2000 pro with a 1000 pro the 2000 pro is going to out power and overwhelm the 1000 pro unless you turn down the game or the volume level on your 2000 pro to match your 1000 pro but you will lose power impact and slam out of your 2000 pro
If I could have done this all over again I would have gotten the SB 3000 pro for my small room The PB 2000 pro and other ported subwoofers have issues with port noise and lingering infrasonic bass I do not like that instead I’d like for my subwoofers to give me explosions slam punch in the gut smacked in the face base
I wish I could have went with the SB 3000 pro like I did in my front row when I went with the SB 4000 pro it’s so much better man
Portnoy‘s ambient bass lingering throughout the room I did not care for that drives me nuts
@@alambe7275 thanks for the advice at the end I went with 2 PB-3000 and the entire house shakes Jeje
I bought PB-2000 PRO as my first subwoofer. I can't go dual because of space in current room but maybe in future with bigger room I will. :) App is nice and Iam using room gain compensation which really helped me but simple remote with volume control would be nice to have too. I did not tried sealed mode because they forgot include plugs in my package and Iam waiting for them now. In your videos speaker membrane really oscillate but with my small room it barely moves even in higher volumes. :)
@Sly foxxx Seller from local HiFi shop where I bought it said this happens sometimes and for example another customer got only one plug. I was ensured they will give me those.
How important is it to get a front-ported sub away/off the front wall? This is the only concern with going PB-2000 Pro, it will be about 2" away from the front wall. Will it matter as much as it has with my past rear-ported subs? The SB-2000 Pro I can get around 8" away.
No you are able to place front ported subs close to the wall
I’ve got a pair of RSL Speedwoofer 10S’s. Looking to upgrade and wishing there was a comparison between the monolith 12 and the PB-2000 Pro. Close in price and the 15 seems to be well reviewed. Any thoughts?
How are the Speedwoofers?
Thank You!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. This is on my short list for sub models I'm considering. One thing I've really been wondering about is whether I'm going to heard port noise with this sub. If I go dual as you suggest and I plan to do, one of the subs will be close to the listening position in the back left of the room while the other will be in the front right. That is how my room is wired and how I'm setup currently with lower end subwoofers that I want to replace. My main reason for wanting to upgrade is the "wind/air" noise I hear from the ported sub near my listening position and I'm still a little concerned that a much more expensive SVS ported sub will have the same issue. Is that an unfounded concern?
I dont think so michael I recieved my dual pb2000 pros three weeks ago all I hear is some amazing bass coming from these subs they are very nice these things are a beast they actually do sound bigger than what they are ,I'm still working on getting my bass at the right gain,I think one minute I got the bass lowered enough when a explosions happen in a movie I'm like holy shit, in other words these subs are powerful and bad ass makes wanna watch a shit load of movies with these and I had my gain at -15 and these subs are not even broken in yet
@@waymonfrench2077 Awesome feedback, thanks. Really the only thing I worry about is potential port noise. I fully expect these things to sound great for most frequencies and certainly for the explosions you mentioned. Keep me posted as you test them out more. I'm jealous!
@@MichaelAnthonyLee hey Michael hows it going hope everyone is safe and healthy, just giving you a follow up on the pro subs so far everything is even better since last time I heard from you yes these are some amazing subs been finding my self watching alot of movies lately with these and I'm blown away by them, I watched midway, saving private ryan, and angel has fallen and dude insane I gotta get Godzilla king of monsters from my neighbor he has all kinds of 4k bluray the explosions are incredible
@@waymonfrench2077 I really appreciate the additional follow-up and very much like hearing about the excellent experience you're having with them! I'm still leaning towards this model being the replacement for my two subs. Sometimes I find myself thinking the sealed model would be easier because of its smaller size, but then I notice that every serious home theater I see online all seem to have ported subs for higher output levels and lower frequency output. I think I just need to come up with the $ and get these. 😉 Again, I appreciate hearing from you again!
@@MichaelAnthonyLee your welcome Michael, yeah I been thinking on getting dual subs for awhile now started to save told myself tax time rolls around use that for subs just visioned my self with duals at the beginning it was I couldn't decide on what sub I wanted I did alot of research up and down, i first considered the pb3000s but wanted to go cheaper so back around December I was gonna get the original 2000s lol 10th of December I went do more research and bam svs announced the pro series excitement kicked in ,but what kinda threw me off was it only got 50watts more than the originals,but let me tell dont let that fool you lol,these subs sound way more than 50watts extra what subwoofers 101 is saying hes exactly right these subs is all that and then some like I said was gonna 3000s but I feel like I'm not loosing much I know the 3000s are more powerful but the pros are more than I expected
Good review bud 👍
Can the pb-2000pro give you the 2 channel stereo sound
Hi thanks for the review on this new sub. I’m looking to upgrade my old subs. I have been looking at HSU vtf-3 mk5 15” subwoofer and the this SVS 12” pb2000 pro. Both about the same price but the HSU has a lot of port adjustments while the svs has an iPhone app adjustments. I can’t afford to buy both to test, make a decision and send one back. Any info is very helpful and thanks in advance.
I have dual Hsu-vtf15h mk2 the step above the vtf3 they both use the same amp and driver and I also had a dual pb12-nsd and a pb3000 and I also have the monolith 15s and and I have played around comparing them the Hsu-vtf15h mk2 has more output then the pb3000 and yes the Hsu-vtf15h mk2 is clean and deep and the mk2 is a far more capable sub then the mark 1 that he had dont get me wrong I love svs they are a great company and have incredible customer service but price to performance is not there especially the pb3000 in my opinion it should be around 1100 dollars it's about 300 to expensive
@@dayonerecoverdub3626 what about the HSU vs the monolith 15? Thoughts? Please
Hi guys, trying to decide between to go with dual pb2000 pro vs dual sb 3000 my room size are 14 x 10.33 x 7.7ft high.. not bothered with music but do enjoy movies and some times like to listen quite loud.
Svs 2000 pro ported v rel 1205 ? Thoughts ?
How's the PB-2000 pro against the Klipsch SPL150?
You mention that a pair of PB-3000's are worth the extra cost over the PRO's, would there be a noticeable difference if the volume is never maxed out? My family usually watch movies at a comfortable listening volume of 80-90dBs. Just curious if the 'quality' of bass would be any different between the two at the same dB level.
That's basically the difference as you go up in price with SVS, more powerful bass at regular listening levels, despite not listening any louder than you normally would.
Of course there is more output potential, but dual PB-1000's have enough output for me, so that's never been my issue.
Just more explosive. If you are trying to save some money, Dual PB-2000 Pro's will be VERY satisfying. Dual PB-3000's just have have even more explosive goodness.
It's not like it used to be, with a huge difference between the original PB-2000 and the PB-3000. If that was the case, I would say stretch your budget if you can, because the difference is so significant.
With the Pro's, I'm not as strong on that position. They really are premium subwoofers at this price, so you are still getting that premium impact. The PB-3000 is just better. If you order direct, you have a year to upgrade too.
Hopefully that helps!
Well, time to inquire about the trade up program for my 2000 originals. Hope they let me send back my originals inside the pro shipping boxes.
Good luck ,the pros are fantastic
At last a review of the 2000 Pro.
Thank you, it took longer than it should have.
@@Subwoofer101 any more reviews coming up sir!
@@Subwoofer101 what's you next video, ryan!
Yeah they are fun subs ,really quality bass
Hey thanks for the review I got a question I hope you can answer it I have two pb 2000 pro subwoofers and I was thinking about getting two pb 3000 Pro subwoofers for a four subwoofer set up would that work and sound great together?
Just to let everyone know that the PB 2000s are not that good for me so I decided to go with the SB 4000 which give you more slam in explosion and IMPAC
Ported subwoofers have too much lingering infrasonic base which I cannot stand it
Please help. First, Thanks for all of your videos and knowledge. I recently upgraded from dual Klipsch SPL 120s to dual SVS PB 2000 pros. I moved my Klipsch to the rear of my room for a little extra rear base. Honestly your videos gave me the confidence to make the $ plunge. Although now the SVS do not sound as good as in the store demo I heard. I am not sure if it is the YPAO room correction (I’m running Yamaha 5200 separates) or the settings or wiring. One thing you mentioned was turning the gain up. Is that the same as volume, cause in my experience (still learning) everyone says gain is not volume. Any info would be appreciated. I really want to bring these to life.
Subwoofer 101 says lower your avr trim -11.5 raise sub gain to your liking after you run auddesey
Or what ever room corrections your reciever has
Did you figure it out & how are the PB 2000 Pros compared to the SPL-120's? I've heard the SPL-150 and it was pretty powerful.
JP Winters I figured out the problem. I originally ran splitters from the AV unit to the subs. I think the run was to long to split signals. Once I ran each single run to subs...perfection.
Hello 101, I need some advice. I have 13' x 17' x8' (W x L x H) room that is a dedicated media room with projector and Denon AVR X4500. I have outlaw LFM1 subwoofer that leaves a lot to be desired (maybe not appropriately set up). Your SVS subwoofer reviews have helped me make up my mind about getting two of these. I can't decide as to whether I should get two PB-3000 or SB-3000 or two PRO-2000 given the size of my home theater.
The two subs I would be looking at are dual PB-2000 Pro's and dual PB-3000's.
I need to do a video on this, but to boil it down, if dual PB-3000's aren't going to hurt you financially, easy choice. PB-4000 level performance, and only an inch bigger in every dimension over the PB-2000 Pro's.
The PB-2000 Pro's are epic for the money, and you can always upgrade within a year, so long as you go factory direct.
Same flavor of potency as the PB-3000's, and definitely what I would call premium bass. By contrast, the originals are not what I would consider premium. To me, premium means more explosive.
To me, room size just doesn't matter, unless you're talking massive, massive rooms.
Otherwise, the problems you're going to have in a small room are the problems you're going to have no matter what subwoofer you go with.
Either way, if you have small room problems, like boundary gain from being too close to a wall, that's something you'll have to deal with regardless.
How does it compare for music? I read for music 2 channel listening, the PC 2000 is better all rounder compared to using PB2000 Pro for music?
Snagged two PB-2000's from the outlet and couldn't be happier. I EQed them using Equalizer APO (everything plays from my HTPC, it offers a 32 band EQ for each channel) in combination with REW and a UMIK-1. They are flat down to about 14hz in my room and even have pretty good output down to 10hz, just insane for ~$500.
It was really down to PB-1000 Pro or PB-2000 and the PB-2000 seemed like the obvious choice, didn't seem like the PB-2000 Pro was worth ~60% more. Maybe if they have some heavier discounts on the Pro within the next year I'll move up. Any idea if the metal grill from the original 2000 fit on the Pro?
great informative video! I have a pair of paradigm seismic 10's where the foams on the passive drivers finally gave out after 10 years of use. ive been eyeing the sb2000 pro's and also the sb3000 pro's. what do you recommend? go for a pair of the 2000 pro's and save a ton of cash or buy a single 3000 pro for now and then maybe add another 3000 pro @ 6 months later?
Pairs are usually best, especially if you can go factory direct. Then you can trade up if you want.
Something tells me you might not be in the United States though, and that usually means that you don't have the ability to trade up.
A single 3000 now, and adding another later might be the best answer if that's the case.
Are ported subs an option? They have quite a few advantages, and you can check out my website where I compare ported versus sealed.
A pair of PB-2000 Pro's are pretty outstanding. Plus you can plug the ports, and run them as sealed if you prefer, you just have to change it in the app as well as plugging the port.
Ported subs in the SVS line tend to be stronger under 40 hz then the sealed subs. Generally, that should equate to being able to run more bass overall.
Ok what about 2) pb1000 pros vs 1) pb3000? Will I get the same impact as my dual pb1000’s or will the pb3000 give me better explosiveness?
I would always stick to duals that are matched.
The PB-1000 Pro's are basically what the original PB 2000's were, but with more tunability with the app.
You would notice more impact with the PB-3000's, but I wouldn't run it single.
If you're going to get a second PB-3000, go for it. Otherwise I would prioritize dual subwoofers.
I have 2 Klipsch RP- 8000f and RP- 504C, which of these two subwoofer. Would you recommend? (SVS PB-2000 PRO subwoofer with the Klipsch SPL-150)
Thanks for your help
Klipsch is getting better with the SPL series, but without question, the PB-2000 Pro's are going to be a better sub in general.
You can look at wattage, cabinet build, adjustability using the PEQ function in the app, and so on. It's simply more advanced.
Klipsch is so popular that I'd love to see their subs on my list. It would probably double my subscription base. But they aren't there just yet.
The big thing to be aware of is that if you let room correction set the subwoofer level, the Klipsch will likely sound louder. It's because of the difference in response curves.
Because SVS subs dig deeper, the Max SPL is at different places on the response curve.
Where a typical subwoofer will peak around 40-70 hertz, ported SVS subs typically peak around 20-25 hertz.
Point being, you'll get a more explosive experience with the SVS, but you need to turn them up to get them properly integrated.
Room correction is built for the vast majority of subwoofers. Shallow.
Lastly, it might not seem like it, but dual PB-1000 Pro's will do better than either the Klipsch or the PB-2000 Pro as a single.
But dual PB-2000 Pro's are phenomenal for the price.
Truly premium bass, with more impact than the PB-1000 Pro's, which are clean, powerful, and as deep as you can hear. The PB-2000 Pro's are just more shocking, when called for.
Follow my Bass Hack video series, and your home theater will truly come alive.
@@Subwoofer101 I appreciate for your expounded good answer, thanks again
Hi, can You recomended these PB-2000 Pro over Monolith 12? Where I live, SVS are 500$ more expensive.
Ok, one last question of advice. I have the PB 1000 and was going up get the PB 1000 Pro but now I'm thinking of making a bigger step up to the PB 2000 Pro. Would you say that's a huge, huge step up? There is a Rythmik sub that is in the same price range but SvS is more convenient in a lot of ways to buy from.
The PB-2000 Pro is worth the extra money in my opinion, if it's not a big financial burden for you.
The PB-3000 and the PB-16 Ultra are better, but I would only suggest those for people who easily have the means.
This is true about most audio: Diminished returns.
The more you spend, the less dramatic the improvement is.
The difference between an $80,000 vs $1,000 speaker is not nearly as big as a $100 vs 1,000 speaker. Sometimes, you can even go backwards in sound quality, but that's another topic.
In my opinion, diminished returns start AFTER the PB-2000 Pro's.
So going from typical subwoofers to the PB-1000 Pro's is DEFINITELY worth the money spent.
Going from the PB-1000 Pro's to the PB-2000 Pro's is another big noticeable step up. More explosive. It's undeniable.
The PB-3000 and PB-16 Ultras are definitely better than the PB-2000 Pro, but for the money, you're in the same ballpark of truly premium level bass.
You get a big improvement in explosiveness between the PB-1000 Pro to the PB-2000 Pro.
You get obvious improvement in the higher models, absolutely, but the cost vs amount of improvement in the SVS line will be the most dramatic between the PB-1000 Pro and PB-2000 Pro.
PB-1000 Pro= full audible depth and awesome price point. Room filling and powerful.
PB-2000 Pro= All of the above, but a noticeable step up in explosiveness. More dynamic headroom.
You get more explosive as you go up, but the price difference is bigger, vs how much more explosive it is.
I think the PB-16 Ultra is worth it, but not if they're killing you financially.
It's like cars and acceleration.
Going from 5 seconds to 2.5 seconds is a lot more expensive than going from 7.5 seconds to 5 seconds.
5 seconds is a LOT of fun.
@@Subwoofer101 oh wow thank you very much for the very detailed answer. It would not be a very big financial burden. There are a few in the outlet right now for 799.99 and with my discount is down to 760.00. No problem there. Thank you again for the incredible response.
@@Subwoofer101 thank you for the help, just ordered the PB2000 Pro. Got a great deal in your outlet so I had to go for it. Can't wait to see what this thing can do. Try and get the PB 1000 to work with it, otherwise I'll just take it out of the equation.
I've got 1 month left to trade-up my dual PB 2000 classics. I'm already pretty happy with the classics but I'd like the app control with the Pros. And I'm wondering how much more "oomph" they've got.
Total cost will be $682 to trade my dual classics for dual pros (because I have to buy boxes). Anyone care to weigh in if it's worth it? Should I upgrade?
I just ordered the 2000 pro from Best Buy and got them to price match so I got it for $500! I can’t wait until it arrives!
price match ? from who at that price?
@@deesr.6641 it turned out I had them price match Target who was actually selling the 2000, not the 2000 pro. I didn’t realize that, but neither did the sales associate. So, I got the 2000 pro for the 2000 on sale price!
Hi, great content and really helpful. I relatively recently discovered SVS and am slowly modernising my home theatre set up. I recently bought the Ultra centre and boy oh boy, that in itself transformed the system from home theatre to actually being at the cinema! Buoyed by this, I HAVE to get a new sub, and it's going to be a 2000 Pro, probably the SB, the small loss in LFE will be a price worth paying for the vis a vis the wife's moaning because of the size difference (but I am open to persuasion if you/anyone can convince me that there is a palpable loss between the two - I would mostly use it for films, but music is important).
Now to my dullard question: how do you dual sub? I have a Sony STR DN1080 amp, which I think will be enough for now at least, but I have looked at much higher spec AV amps and I don't see the connectors for two subs - what am I missing? To be fair, one will be enough for me for now, but when the time is right I will be on it. Can you help with this knowledge gap?
Best regards
Thank you for watching! I'm glad you are finding the channel useful.
Your main question is solved by a cheap and easy RCA splitter. Run room correction after connecting the second sub. Cake.
Now for your more problematic issue. Sealed vs Ported.
My wife was super hesitant to go from my SC-2000 Supercube, a microscopic sub by comparison, to the large ported subs.
If I were to suggest going back to the smaller, shallower sub, I might be physically assaulted. I think she enjoys my job more than I do, especially with social isolation going on.
My point is that bigger dual subs are a hard sell for some spouses, but ported are more comfortable on the ears in general.
Ported are better for movies, and I love what they do for music. In my opinion, the "advantages" of sealed subs for music can be imitated using the app. Just more mid bass output. You can set it as a preset.
Thankfully, the PB-2000 Pro is the second smallest sub on my list, and given its performance, it's outstanding. But I understand that it's big.
My wife loves them, and I feel that after going through my Bass Hack video series, your wife might find a similar appreciation.
Everyone wants better bass, whether they realize it or not. Grandmothers tend to be shocked at how much they enjoy my set up. My mother in law is even an enthusiastic fan.
Lastly, when you upgrade your AVR, a Denon X4500, X3500, or pretty much anything with Audyssey XT32 is a good place to start. Marantz models are great too, just make sure it has XT32. It's the premium version of the room correction.
Let me know if that helps!
@@Subwoofer101 Thank you so much for the very full answer. It absolutely helps. I am a bit loathed to upgrade the AVR just now; what started out as just simply buying (and overspending slightly) an OLED TV, has descended into a 'right, what next!' affair. I know the amp will need to be upgraded but that in itself was quite a recent purchase, I had no idea I was going to go on a deep dive into audiophile territory!
I was quizzed but wouldn't say when the SVS centre arrived, and I can tell the Mrs is enjoying the OMG change, so I think I might be able to post-sell the PB Pro once she hears/feels it! It may be a week or three before I take the plunge (need to make sure the money doesn't stop flowing with the current situation), but I will let you know how it goes!!
Thanks again, and keep safe
Hi again, I finally went with the SB2000-Pro and it was another SVS-shaped revelation. MOTHER OF GOOOOOD these guys are good. NEVER have I heard such a sound, and it's in my front room!! I just wish the COVID lockdown could be over so I can really see what the Ultra centre and this bad boy can do!
Dual subbing for now is off the table, but I am wondering if I can eek a bit more oomph/richness by replacing my remaining KEF 5001 eggs as my rear surrounds with either the Prime satellites/elevation? Are they that much more superior? Finally, disregarding (if possible) the versatility of the elevations, are they in-and-of- themselves better than the satellites (keeping in mind I will use these as straight up rears for now).
Hope you guys are keeping safe
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@@didjindutch The KEF eggs if used just for movies is fine and wont make much difference. But if you listen to 5ch surround music, then yes, adding larger rears will make a difference. As for keeping safe...we are keeping sane by refusing to comply unscientific and tyrannical orders.
hey nice review.. time and time again i have read the pb 3000 or even sb 3000 has better mid bass then these . bass that you feel , i assume there is no way in fixing other then to get the 3000 series
Great video but like you love my PB 3000's
Huh
To those who have had the PB2000, have you noticed any difference after upgrading to the Pro? if so, what have you noticed ?
Who has this model do whats the difference if go just into lfe on the or in left and right ?
I'm in the market for two of these PB2000 pros, but I found a local listing for a 16 ultra for $1,900. I'm now in a quandary if I should look at one PB 16 ultra or still go with two PB2000 pros for about the same price? The pros are smaller and I would not likely be able to obtain another 16 ultra. So there's where I'm at. The ultra is only 6 months old and in great condition.. What are your thoughts? I would really like a pair of 3,000s but that's outside my budget as well..
Me? I would go with the PB-2000 Pro's ALL DAY LONG. I'm not guessing.
I LOVE the PB-16 Ultras, make no mistake. AWESOME sub. Incredible realism and explosiveness.
BUT, duals are vital in my opinion. If you don't see yourself being able to get another PB-16 Ultra soon or at all, the PB-2000 Pro's are the way to go.
If you get them factory direct, and you can trade up within a year, if you feel the need.
My affiliate links in the video description are factory direct.
But I've had a single PB-16 Ultra while I waited for the matching sub, it was months. I preferred dual PB-2000 Originals over the single PB-16 Ultra. But dual PB-16 Ultras are breathtaking.
Duals make that big of a difference.
@@Subwoofer101 Thank you! That was very helpful info. Dual PB2000 Pros, and then maybe 3000 next year.. 👍
Can use the pb2000 pro with my old pb2000 🤔
Are they Bluetooth? And also would you recommend these for music
Yes they are bluetooth but ONLY for the SVS App controls. I use them for music and I think they sound fantastic. Not muddy at all compared to other ported subs I have heard. It doesn't even sound ported it's crazy!!!
Dual SB12-NSD or a single PB2000 Pro??
Hey :-) ONE SVS SB 2000 pro, or two SB 1000 for movies? Both solutions, is to be placed, under my 55" inch oled. It is very limited, where I can place the subs. Maybe, I could have two PB 1000, on each side of my couch? But, it will not work under the TV, cause the PBs, are too big, for my setup, as it is :-(
Should I get this sub or the 15" monolith more movies for me not music
Would you go with dual pb 2000 pros or dual hsu veg-3 mk5 hp sub 15”, 600 watts continuous, 2000 watts peak for $1, 598.00. Please let me know. Thanks
Meant Hsu vtf-3 mk5 Hp 15” sub, 600 watts; 2000 watts peak for $1,598.00. Thank!
I came accross some reviews and noticed that svs subs have some huge dip in 50 - 60hz range. How is pb2000 pro in this range?
I'm not having that problem I have dual pb2000 pros
@@waymonfrench2077 I wanted to hear the sub myself but no store carries them. Returning this massive thing isn't an option for me
@@oscarishandsome5150 I've had these subs for a month now and I've had no issues, I have and option but these things are fantastic seems to get better each day I was gonna go pb3000 but after hearing these I'm happy these are more than enough 3000s would be over kill with duals
That dip is due to the room, not the subs. It's why I stress dual subs. A single is going to have dips that shift around in the room at different frequencies. Brand has no impact on it.
Duals cause constructive interference, which basically corrects those dips.
Funny thing about those standing waves, you can add 10 dB of gain and barely register any difference. But in another position, or outside of the room, it sounds super loud. It's a strange phenomenon.
@@Subwoofer101 Subwoofer placement is one of the most important things, I understand that very well. In your opinion it does have no dip in the specified range but in its frequency response would you draw a flat line in a graph of 30hz to 60hz at least? I have one 12" already 2000pro will most likely be my next one
I have dual Klipsch R12sw. How much better would dual 2000 pros be? 1-10 scale?
Couldn't really put a number on it, but the difference would be impossible to deny. Just remember to turn up the SVS subs. You wouldn't be disappointed.
Oh boy, no comparison. I used to have dual Klipsch R112SW subs and Upgraded to Dual SVS PB16 Ultras. I can’t say the difference is night and day because that would be an understatement. Hope this helps 🙃
Bill Cozad I had a single Klipsch R12sw and upgraded to a Pc2000 (original) and it was a huge difference. It dug so much deeper then the klipsch. Then I got the itch to want more so I purchased the pb3000 and it shakes the whole house. I would say the pb2000 pro is in a different league then the R12sw.
I had a Klipsch R12sw. It was boomy and I couldn't feel the chest thump..so returned.. I switched to pb 2000..Awesomeness!!
I had a pair of the same subs......and I finally dig deep in the pockets and up graded to the PB3000 and wow!!! What a difference!! The R12SW plays the higher frequencies and is more sensitive to those notes but the SVS subs dig deep!! Give you such a wonderful heart pounding bass!! Idk if this will help but SVS is in a whole different league! I made the switch and I’m more than happy I did! Now I have a pair of PB-16ULTRAS.
Watching this video waiting on Fedex to deliver my pair of SB-2000 PRO upgrading from SB-1000
The pros are nice, I have the dual pb2000 pros
After listening the last couple of days, these things are insane!
hitechburg I watched it last night! The opening scene completely blew my mind. I have never experienced that type of bass in my home. Huge smile!
@@gbutta1126 what's your gain set at on sub ,and reciever trim
@@hitechburg what's your gain set at
I have been torn between the SB2000 Pro & the PB2000 Pro. I want a sub more for music than for a home theater setup yet I listen to a lot of bass heavy electronic music that reaches down to the lowest of frequencies (not mid ranged electronic music that's more main stream). It seems like the consensus online is that the SB is better for music and the PB is better for home theater due to its larger output and lower frequency range. How ever the response on the PB seems to be almost as flat as the SB. I would be doing most of my listening in a small bedroom that's about 10x10ft and a living room that's 20x20ft. I also produce music a little bit and want an accurate sub.
@Sly foxxx Sweet! Thanks for the reply, I actually broke and ended up getting the sb. I will say it is very tight and accurate but doesn't quite have that punch at 20-30hz which I believe the Pb's ports are designed to amplify. Might return and get the pb. One quick question, how have you found the Pb's "sealed mode" to proform? I feel like if its sealed mode is a major difference in sound settings the pb ends up being the best of both worlds. Again, thanks for the advice!
Sly foxxx ugh that’s annoying, I love SVS but I do feel like they don’t include enough add ons with their actual subs (wireless compatibility, bungs, etc)
I just returned the sb2000 Pro because it didn't have enough base for me so I can only afford one of the pb2000 pro so I'm hoping that'll fix it.