When Should You Trade In Chess?
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Me who gets 1 pawn advantage in the opening : *proceeds to trade everything.
That's Hikaru's style haha
Exactly same here
True
That is way too accurate lol
Wait you aren't supposed to do that LMAO rip
I usually trade my king as it is pretty useless
lul
Me too. It can only move one square, and can't even turn into a queen when it reaches the end of the board
pawns r life,its why I dont mind throwing my pieces off for all the pawns on the board
i am the 69th person that liked this comment
for what do you trade it with?
I only trade when:
1: I've blundered by queen and I'm tilting
2: I've got nothing else to do
I *don't* trade when:
1: it gives me any kind of tactical or strategic advantage
did you mean 'blundered my queen' or smth else
Definitely can relate to number 1
If you blundered your queen you definitely shouldn’t trade
Wait... you DON'T trade when it gives you any kind of tactical or strategic advantage? Am I missing a joke
2 is a fact
"Everything's a trade if you're brave/stupid enough."
-Hangnus Blunderson
No this was actually said by Blundurus Hangson..
Yo, whose son are you hanging lol?
@@hitarthdesai5271 My dad's
@@Mark-nj3fm Some sibling rivalry or what? 🤔😂
@@hitarthdesai5271 only child....
1. don't trade your active piece for a passive piece of your oponnent.
2. don't trade when you're down material
3. trade when you are up material
4. don't trade when you have an attacking tension on the board except when it helps your position or your attack.
the reason for this is that you want to keep your oponnent as long as possible in a defensive/passive state.
5. Don't trade when you have a clear space advantage.
6. Look for trades when you lack space and the pieces cramp on each other (for instance: two knights fighting for the same squares).
@@totalhysteria i think you should look for pawn breaks when you are in lack of space
8. dont trade your king
I sometimes trade queens early so my opponent can't castle, idk if that's good.
the whole video is about not having a bullet list for when to trade, and actually evaluating the position to see if the trade is beneficial
you might have missed the point
Northernlion: Always
Ryan "let's get weird" LeTomo
@Neo Genesis Egg Lord. 🙏
He missed a Few Trades Yesterday
Which Andrea wanted him to do. 😅
DUNKa
@@jackferguson37 *LeRyuka
You should trade when:
1. You're up in material
2. To get rid of a strong opponent piece
3. When you will achieve a better position.
Also, when your opponent has an IQP.
yes, I, like stockfish, just choose the move that will achieve a better position. No concepts required.
Also when you have a space disadvantage. Easier to play if you trade off a couple of minor pieces.
@@totalhysteria +1
And when opponent is attacking
I only trade my queen for a pawn
😲
O:
a pawn can become every piece except a king, so you made the best possible trade nice work
Lol
Botez gambit 5Head
*"You're the only guy with the dark square bishop on the girl"*
-Gothamchess 2021
Uhhhh...???
Now you have to censor out the bishop and it’s perfect
"You're"
@@imightbebiased9311 oh...
Sure I'll change it
3-4% rise up
Levy: in this position, you shouldn’t trade
Me when There’s a possible trade: I’ll take your entire stock
You take mine as well! Fair deal!
Lmfao
Nice one
Yeah i trade ma queen with pawn.
@@ezrahadwi135 obviously its a win to you then.
“Do you see this key move, f6?”
Somewhere, Ben Finegold just got a migraine.
oof
lmfao
I have a love hate relationship with chess, sometimes I'm winning and start thinking I'm gonna be the next GM, then the next day I'm losing and i just delete the app...
Yeah I'm kind of the same way. Sometimes I'm playing like 90% accuracy and really feeling myself, sometimes I get tunnel vision and blunder my queen on move 5
I don’t know what’s worse: playing terribly but scrapping a couple wins on time or disconnects, or consistently getting into a winning position and then seeing 30s on the clock.
Sometimea I'm actually thinking and got no blunder, sometimes I'm just being dumb and accidently blundered my queen
yeah me but my ranking is less than five hundred
Same lol. Sometime I will be like "I will learn all the opening theories, endgame theories, chess strategies and I will practice alot and I will become a great player." But after losing a game I will be like "Ah f this game I suck I will never play this damn game again". Lol
Who's this noob to tell me that trading my queen for a pawn is bad.
OmG it's hatsdome skeewndard from spunch bop 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@yoriichitsugikuni6970 oh hell naw sqilchward isn't handson
It’s bad if it’s not going to promote
@@parkerf6649 NOOOOOB
Trade a king for a pawn
me, a 900: trades all my pieces immediately since I'm probably better at endgames than my opponent
😂 Absolutely!
And then comes the plot twist: the opponent is actually better than me at endgames. 😂😭😭
Then gets ladder mated! XD
Those hurt the most lol 😂
@@malharbrahmbhatt2563 or end up blundering 2 rooks...
As a former 900 who got to 1,000 yesterday for the first time (I was at 350 a month and a half ago so I'm very proud) you probably shouldn't do this. In a scenario like that pawns are the most important piece and the one pawn difference will decide the game. Plus, your fundamentals will improve more if you stick to trying to learn real tactics. I got to 930 initially only doing the fried liver. I decided to learn a better opening since I was stuck, so I picked up the london and went down 110 points in just a day- but then got a better understanding of the game and better fundamentals, which allowed me to get back to around 900 and stay there for a week before hitting the big number yesterday. Though it causes an immediate decrease in your level, in the long term its way more rewarding (and fun), so I recommend you give it a try. I'm obviously not much better than you (if at all) but just giving advice on what got me over the elo hill. Good luck, and see you at 1k (:
Trading is the only game plan us plebs can think of.
can relate
Bro you are like 2100 Lichess, you are not a pleb😆
@@ricksanchez2427 I know that pfp
@@ricksanchez2427 Levi?
TRUUUEEEEEEE
He’s talking to you, Northernlion.
I once saw two kids trade their kings and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen
Might I add: they thought they were tied because they both got their opponents king of the board
Would be nice if they traded rooks
I saw two kids playing king vs king for more than 100 moves in a long time tournament
@@lucagiordani1026 I used to do the same with a friend lol but it wasnt in a tournament
I saw this friendly match of these guys making all there pawns act like queens, bishops are kings, rooks are pawns, the queen is the king, knights are queens and the king is a rook. Don’t ask me why I remember it all
Dark square bishop on the girl
i died
@@narutorunner4235 my brother?
I've said this in a few other videos:
...
Learn endgames if you want to know what to do in the middle game. Learn how to win with Rook + Pawn vs a Bishop. Learn how to win with Bishop + Knight + Pawn vs a Rook. You can basically memorize opening moves and how to win different endgames -- that part of chess is "easy" compared to what happens between openings and endgames. The chess played in the middle game is an effort to get a winning endgame, or at least avoid getting a losing endgame. If you don't know how to win endgames, you won't recognize a good middle game move that's right in front of you.
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I would actually advice anyone who is learning chess to START by learning endgames. It teaches you how the pieces move and interact, it teaches you how to win a game once you are ahead in pieces, and it builds confidence. Then, and only then, look at some chess openings. Try ones that look cool to you out, 3-4 games each. Pick the ones that are least confusing, learn them, and try to memorize what you do when so that you aren't burning brain cells every time you play. The middle game will not come naturally -- you'll need to learn tactics. Tactics are things like pins, forks, binds, revealed attacks, double attacks, etc etc. Getting good at chess is largely a matter of seeing tactics, setting up tactics, and knowing which tactics are good to use in a given position. Sometimes pinning that knight with your bishop is a bad move. Sometimes it's the winning move.
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Finally, LASTLY, you are ready to learn positional chess. You see that you can trap the opposing Queen on one side of the board for a number of moves, allowing you to rotate your own Queen to the opposite side and operate there unopposed for at least two moves. Will it win some material? Is there a downside to it? If the opponent doesn't even try to maneuver their Queen to do damage control, what might they do instead to undermine your plan? Are ALL of the possible board positions favorable to you, meaning that the plan is good? None of these are things you should be thinking if you are new to chess -- you should be learning endgames, openings, tactics, and judgement of when tactics are good/bad to use. Only once you have these basics down will you have the tools to think positionally.
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At 8:11 in the video, Levy bemoans BxN (Bxc3). But actually, that move is repectable chess. Were there other good moves, better moves? Yes. But that particular trade was good. The weakness created in White's position is exploitable... and more importantly permanent. White has no way to repair the damage or make the damage meaningless. That's exactly the sort of situation where you might opt to drop your bishop for a mere knight. I do 100% agree with Levy that you should not just hip-shot this move off carelessly. There are sometimes better moves available. But I'd point out that Levy can sometimes get himself into time trouble looking for perfect moves (sorry to throw you under the bus here Levy;
bro wrote a book
when will this book be published lol
My man came with an essay
TLDR: I'm good at chess and need everyone to know
Chill.
i traded my king
Kings gambit exchange variation huh
@@onionnyamous5453 No he is telling that in humourous way that he lose games
I traded boards
You mean a draw then?
@Eykonal of course he did! He played the feared King's Gambit!
"the board doesnt care what you want" ~levy, 2021
I want a double cheese burger
@@carlneoh5843 Aight, coming right up
chess too hard
yo
love you bro
*Chess is too hard.
youtube grammar police arrest number 418
Mood
@@J0EYisnumber1 its a pun bruhhh
"You will be the only guy with the dark squared bishop on the girl"
Levy rozman
March,2021
Instructions unclear, traded every pieces on move 17
"you're the only guy with the dark squared bishop on the girl"
how to get your crush to love you 101: tape dark squared bishops on them, it sounds weird but trust me, levy rozman is a master at this stuff
GothamChess I would love a video taking about ELO. What does it actually mean? What is its origin? What determines how many points you win or lose? Is there a theoretical cap? Does the size of gap between players tell you anything? Do certain thresholds mean anything?
Thanks in advance! Love the content!
Yeah it would be interesting for a live stream, not really a full video. Maybe a 2 minute one on his second channel
The Elo rating system is a method for calculating the relative skill levels of players in zero-sum games such as chess. It is named after its creator Arpad Elo, a Hungarian-American physics professor. The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. Two players with equal ratings who play against each other are expected to score an equal number of wins. A player whose rating is 100 points greater than their opponent's is expected to score 64%; if the difference is 200 points, then the expected score for the stronger player is 76%.
Actually gothams fans are now doing hate comments for getting pinned.
U my friend have earned a pin.
Getting pinned in the comments section can be good, but in chess it's typically not good, so here, in Levy's comments section, getting pinned is a bad thing.
the best part of Gotham's content, is the comments, and I wouldn't trade that
Niiiice.
I just wanted to say: thanks for telling us about what happened with the Facebook post. Some of us don't follow you on other social platforms, so we wouldn't have found out. Remember, we love you, and we love how you inspire us to learn about chess and life. You'll always have our support.
What FB post? Pls explain
Gotham really never sleeps.
"the title"
Me- not now tho.
Gotham I’m a graduate student and I absolutely love your content it’s so helpful for me when I need to detach from school to distract myself with chess study. You’ve measurably improved my life. I just got a job as a data scientist for a Fortune 500 company so I’m going to be busy between school and work. I’m going to try to watch some videos but I really appreciate what you do it’s made chess so fun!
I too love chess and especially his reactions
just checking in, hows your job?
17:36 Remember to ALWAYS trade the opponent's queenside pawn for the g pawn in front of your king when you're under attack! ALWAYS move your queen to the other side of the board so you can't run into Knight forks, only Bishop forks!
Man I didn't even finish the how to win at chess episode! And this guy already uploaded another video!
Gotham making a 20 min video on when you should trade
"My 1100 rated ass - aahh boy, i am gonna pin your queen to knight, and then take it"
@@DonFreeq I think by "it" he meant the Knight pinned to the queen, not the queen
Hey Levy, just wanted to say I really appreciate your content! I’ve only been playing for a few months but I started watching your channel last week and I find your teaching style very effective! I’ve already learned a lot and started winning more games!
best chess youtuber out there for sure
I see you havent watched agadmator
@@pianoenthusiast i dts
Best of luck levy, the internet is messed up
I just read the article, so stupid how people spread hate over things they’re uninformed about
yea so stop making mess on internet
In the Caro-Kann you recommend trading the bishop pinning the knight once attacked, yes? Would be great to see some info on when to take the pinned piece. Thanks, coach.
It’s because you generally win a pawn that way
@@Kh79797
I’ve come a long way with the Caro, and I always trade the bishop for the pinned knight as a matter of principle.
Yea if you're comfortable playing Bishop + Knight vs 2 Bishops then it'd make sense if you can keep up with the correct plan of restricting their bishop using pawns and playing on the potential advantage
15:09 As white I'd snap that h8 pawn off with the bishop every time. Black takes and queen takes opening the g and h file.
In one sentence: Trade good pieces for bad pieces.
Whaaaaaatt
I used to watch your videos while playing online and I’d lose rating points and didn’t memorize what you’re saying because I’m not giving my full attention to either. I made a rule for myself to give lessons my full attention and practice the traps until I know them by heart before trying them over the board and my elo rose 150 in a week so I’m now only 12 points away from my goal for this month of 1,000. Goes to show you can’t take shortcuts if you want to get better I guess. Thanks for the help!
YES, I REQUESTED THIS VIDEO, I LOVE YOU. Would love to see more of this exact topic
What I learnt: Always trade when you are up material
You're the only guy with a dark-squared bishop on the girl - Levy Roseman 2021 lol
that's a great blooper for a rewind or something lol
Gotham: it is well known this is a bad trade
Me hiding my game logs: why yes of course
This was a really helpful video. Been starting to think more about pawn structures and development in my trades and surprise, surprise, I'm starting to win more. So thank you for this :D
When you're so early there aren't any comments about how there isn't a pinned comment yet
Doesn't this technically count though?
@@Martin-rr8jo agreed
Let's call it the pin of shame
@@Martin-rr8jo take my like
what about when you're so early that there aren't any comments about the comments about how there isn't a pinned comment yet
"You're the only guy with the dark square bishop on the girl". Suddenly it turns into PH
Hey @GothamChess, hope you see this. First, thanks for all the fantastic teaching content. It's the teaching part that sets you apart from other YT chess streamers.
Secondly, a video idea: something I constantly struggle with is continuity. If you could make a video on understanding and holding onto your knowledge of what's attacked, what's defended, etc. I so often make a move, forgetting that that piece was an integral guard for a certain square, or whatever.
Anyhow, thanks for all you do. Much appreciated.
great video levy, really liking your recent editing cut changes in the beginning like where you answer your own question that you have done in the last few vids
Gotham, your videos helped me in chess! Thanks for making these kinds of videos!
The best chess channel IMO. The content is just gold!
ok ok i get it, but how do i stop "trading" my pieces even tho i'm down material??
So much vids this time around... Dude I can't keep up !! Hats off to you
Thank you gotham, I will study this and I very much appreciate. ❤️❤️❤️ I loved when you gave examples and critic to understand that was a++
16:41 its that sigma male grindset
Man Gotham I am sorry people are giving you crap, love you bro thank you for fueling my passion for chess
Could you do a video on pawn breaks specifically? I never know what is a good pawn break and it usually costs me the game
Congratulations in advance for a million subscribers. If you keep making videos like these you will definitely reach there.
“I’ll give you my Queen for your King”
Bobby Fischer
Gotham chess , 3/12/2021 - " when am i supposed to trade my pieces"
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Could you also make a video about your training routine. and where you can find a lot of theory moves?
20:07 Eight Trigrams 64 Pawns!
I trade pieces when I'm up material and can't access a ladder mate, because I don't know how to mate any other way
never "trade", always "give"
Lol
“You’re the only guy with the dark squared bishop on the girl...”
Wow Levy, I had such a good laugh 😂
1. claiming the center
2. doubling pawns
3. getting developed
4. having the bishop pair
5. getting an outpost
6. controlling a file/diagonal
7. opening up their king
Me: tries to trade rook.
Opponent: checkmates me
Needed this video tbh, never knew when to trade and when not to trade
Levi, I've been loving your content! I just finished your openings playlist, but I can't help but wonder what you mean when you call certain positions theoretical. What is this hand wavy chess theory and how is it different from the content you create? When should I start learning Theory, and why and how is it important to getting better? Is it memorization of 10s or 100s of different variations? Is it more like your most recent videos about analyzing positions?
Again, huge fan. thanks for everything you create!
His name is levy
The good content never ends *chefs kiss*
Me: *Watches Gotham's new video on trading and decided to listen to him*
Also me: TAKES, TAKES, TAKES, TAKES, TAKES
Me after the game: Wait, why did I lose?
Love your videos levy
Thanks for bringing me to play chess again
Important intermediate level topic, great stuff. Any chance for a video explaining when a knight or bishop might be considered 2 or 4 points not 3 or even when a rook or queen are more or less valuable? I mean knights on the rim or bishops in pairs or in an endgame with play on opposite sides of the board are great examples , but I'm sure there are a good deal of other ones you know and we dont or better perspective on the classic examples
Hey levy just say your community post and hope everything gets better! Good luck!
My man! You’re putting out content faster than my 900 ELO brain can process.
I’m a 300 and I understand, but can’t remember
@@parkerf6649 300?
Actually needed a vid like this, thanks
I've watched probably all your tips videos and this is the video I've learnt the most!
Like and dislike counters are gone :crabrave:
what happened?
@@butunexi0322 I also would like to know.
I also like being the only guy with the dark square bishop on the girl
I had a moment in a game where I could’ve traded off to a much more simplified endgame and after analysis I would’ve had a pretty great chance at winning
Literally taking shots at the egg in the first 30 seconds, i love it
Thank you so much for listening to our questions and answering them in your recent videos!
Hey Levy, could you make a video explaining bishops colors and their pawn interaction? would be a nice topic :)
So entertaining and educational. Love your style of videos!
It was very helpful, thank you so much!!
Just saw that post and I will always love you and always like from my side 😉
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Once again, thanks @GothamChess for your content and valuable info you provided. Looking forward to your next informative video!
i needed a video like this thx gotham you are amazing
Dude, you don't deserve any of the hate that you're getting. Just know that we support you (sorry this is cheezy). Good luck.
Hi Levy, I saw your recent post about the death threats. You don't deserve this, and even if in another case you were to be wrong, that doesn't ever mean death is the answer. I know your a strong and smart guy so you will deal with it, but I hope you know your entire viewership respects and loves you as a person, and will always support you.
He wasn't wrong, the guy was definitely cheating.
Very, very timely! I've been struggling a lot with this very question lately.
Wow ty for splitting it into sections, it makes it a million times easier.
When Should You Trade in Chess?
Me, who traded my queen for pawn against Aron on the chess.com app:
Do not cite the deep magic to me, Levy. I was there when it was written.
Some GM will like their horsey so much they don’t even trade it for a rook in the corner
I literally lost against a GM yesterday in shield arena cuz they kept their jumping horsey against my bishop
This was a very instructive video. knowing how to trade is very important. When you trade, you need to know how that trade will benefit to you. I remember when I analyzed one of my student's games and she lost. She traded pieces and she didn't realize that she was helping her opponent develop her pieces, by trading.
Just accidentally made levy say “i want to end the b-file”
I doubt you’ll see this Levi but;
Sorry to hear about the issues following the chess match against the guy who was banned for cheating. Was hoping you’d be away due to getting engaged or something. It will blow over soon, keep your head up best of luck
just want to say that, that random guy wasnt cheating.
@@abednegosteven-4423 Yes he was
@@abednegosteven-4423 I haven’t looked into it enough to know if he was, either way it’s irrelevant. Death threats aren’t warranted and it wasn’t levy who banned him