Had one of these for a while, one thing I really like about them is how solid they are. It's all acrylic which makes it super solid, no plastic feeling at all. I think there's a video of the guys who made it running it over with a car and it wasn't even scuffed afterwards lol.
Most people don't know that SOCD option is available on most brooks. That "cheat" switch you're activating is also just a literal switch on the brook board to choose your option. You'll see the alternative options listed on their product page as well. It's great for charge chars What you'll see listed for Brook Boards Support two SOCD modes Mode1： Left + Right=Neutral、”Up priority” in all Up + Down = Up Mode2： Second-Input Priority,Left + Right=Right、Right + Left = Left
Mpress is IMO the best all button out on the market right now. Worth mentioning A) while it doesn't feel like a keyboard the way a SBM does, it does use mechanical keyboard switches and is compatible with any standard MK switch so you can really dial into the feel you want for the buttons (I use zylents 62G tactile, and it's amazing) B) something you didn't address is button size and placement. They run rimless 30mm buttons that are spaced the same distance apart as hitbox's 24mm, so there's no awkward feeling of buttons being too small while maintaining that tight spacing. Also worth mentioning the buttons are in a vewlix layout rather than the Noir layour standard for Hitbox/Snackbox. C) the "cheat mode" you mention was reviewed after daigo showed up with it, and while it was banned at that tournament, it's currently legal under Evo rules, which means it's legal basically everywhere besides the CPT which notably does ban it.
I bought my first arcade stick last year, a Qanba Obsidian, and although leverless controllers are probably better in a high level setting, I'm just here to learn fighting games for my own enjoyment and to do cool stuff when I play with friends, and I love how it feels to play on stick, so that's what I'll continue to use.
To me personally, the REAL “snackbox” will always be any arcade stick with a cable storage compartment that’s way bigger than the cable itself. If that’s not granola bar space, then I don’t know what is.
I got em both, but I also think the mpress is just a little better for comfort. Solid buys either way, but if you're around 6ft or over just know that small Snackbox size might not be the play
Jiyuna my man, your explanation of this feature is incorrect. The difference in the 2 modes you are talking about is that in one Left + right = Neutral, in the "cheat" mode Left + right = whichever one is pressed second. Pressing the second direction clears the first one. So you cant charge back while holding both directions in that mode, it doesn't work like that. There actually comes an issue with that second mode as well. Things like Half circles or QCF from holding down back become much more difficult to perform due to the fact that you can accidentally skip over the down input by pressing the forward input too soon. Also, that mode is not banned as it still does not allow you to input 2 directions at once. It will always take the second input you enter. But yes, it is good for booms and charge moves.
@@OmnipotentO yep. you charge maybe a frame or two faster with leverless + SOCD cleaning disabled. It's really not a big deal at all, and not actually banned in tournaments. Also easily doable on a standard PS pad
@@tylerm1491 little nitpick, but it's not about disabling SOCD cleaning, it's just another type of socd cleaning, usually called "last wins" socd cleaning
That's half right. It's allowed in most tournaments, but if memory serves me right, some stuff, including CPT events, requires back + forward = neutral and down + up = up SOCD cleaning. A lot of tournaments do allow any devices that feature any SOCD cleaning at all though.
not seeing if anyone else corrected, but i have this stick also. the switch on left, regarding socd, it’s both socd. the switch just makes the other “last input goes.” it is not like daigo’s banned one, you cannot do left and right same time. do the controller setup on pc/look at inputs. it’s either neutral, or last input put in. still maaad fast.
thought i sent this..big thing is, the switch is built into the brook boards, and it’s still one direction x and y axis. so legal, just mad fast. and if tourney allows, it’ll help with your cross up blocking. side note, jfa working on putting it in their newer board micros as well. so you can get it on your micro too. it’ll all go on their app
0:52 funny thing is, for me, compared to the hitbox, the snackbox micro's buttons are too far apart, so it's less comfortable to rest my fingers on/near the top 4 buttons. The mpress is way better in that regard
I didn't know that mode wasn't tournament legal. I thought it was just a different kind of SOCD cleaning, and that both were valid as long as the game didn't register both inputs at the same time. I'm very interested in that one, the Snackbox buttons seem too small for double-tapping comfortably, and I have long fingers anyway. I might look into importing an MPress at some point.
I wish I had gotten one several months back. But I wasn’t interested at the time. Now I been wanting one so bad mainly the MPress since it has more space to lay your hands than the Hitbox or the Snack Box Micro. Wish they wasn’t sold out. LOL!
I've had one of these for over a year now it is a really nice controller however I did have to replace the USBC receptacle because all of the strain from the weight of the braided cabe rest on the solder joints and the connector itself and I had to play like a statue because the slightest movement would disconnect my controller my advice for anyone who gets one is to save yourself the trouble don't go through what I did and get some anti static silicone RTV and encapsulate the connector minus the mating surface for the wire obviously I did this months ago and never had connection issues since
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI yeah when mine broke I was going to see about sending it back to be repaired but being that my job is to build and fix military electronics I found this to be a simple solution to my controller problems 🤙
Only thing about keyboard is that consoles don't support em so going to locals is a bit scuffed if the only thing you're used to play on is kb. This is why I'll be getting a leverless sometime whenever I feel I can justify the price. Also there was the unfortunate situation at some tourney with Them's Fightin' Herds where both players in grand finals used keyboard and had to borrow some leverless controllers coz, well.. Can't really use two keyboards simultaneously if buttons overlap
I got an EVO Mpress black with gold trace and LED, liked it so much I went and bought a second one! 😊 I have 10 joysticks and I feel like I probably won't even go back to joysticks... Love leverless.
Whats your setup on the mpress? I decided I want to get one as my first hitbox, they're so sexy haha. Thinking of doing cherry silvers, curious what others do
@@yomamasaccount i got their evo version with the black pcb front, gold trace. It comes as is, it’s not a personal customization. It came with their clear buttons. The quality is unsurpassed. I feel like they’re the best. The buttons are close together and the layout is different than the official “hitbox” so not everyone would like it but I do. You’ll just have to get used to it.
It takes MX switches, right? Try putting box switches in there. I have NovelKeys Box Creams in one of my sticks and they're my favorite buttons on a stick.
With the rising popularity of leverless, I wonder why no one in FGC is really using a Wooting keyboard? A Wooting is so imba that it provides way more advantages over leverless like it being able to customize up to 3 different values in 1 keystroke. That practically means you can set dash with just a button press and more.
First!!! Damn that RBG one looks cool. 1:56 damn that's a cool feature. Again i might get a hit/snackbox and try it out. 5:15 That's impressive. And that's a pogchamp face right. That needs to be an twitch emote. 5:33 I bet Jiyuna uses that feature on matches/sets.
I tried this controller out and it instantly hurt tf out of my shoulders. I realized it was, because I was hunched over like a gawdamn goblin. If I have this on an elevated surface I'll probably like it much better. Still a good product though! You gotta try it once.
I may stick with d-pad, but what is your favorite box overall? I'm tempted to try snack box. The small form factor attracts me for storage and tournament travel.
Nice u got a Mpress the Evo model looks sick does it have the ps5 chip 4 compatibility, Daigo toetagged alot of victims with gaffro. Do u jump with ur left or right thumb?
have you tried on "cheat mode" doing sonic boom moves while holding back and forward at the same time? like the intended result should be a [b]f+atk special move but deployed while walking forward?
Thank you for giving out your opinion. With Tekken 8 and SF 6 coming out next year I'm going to take the plunge on a hitbox of some kind. A toss up between this and the snack box micro :) Now which one do I choose...... :/
Been trying to switch for a few weeks been hating the learning process 😅 I move my wrist in the motions still trying to hit the buttons for motion inputs haha. Considering just getting an oversized actuator for my stick cause I just want easier walking and blocking anyway haha
I’m ok with box controllers mostly because the true fairness would be to only allow official controllers for the consoles where the game is available, and that would be dumb. So let box controllers go wild, you’ll still need to learn the game and controller execution can only take you so far.
Just asking regarding SOCD last win vs SOCD neutral vs SOCD priority..... What happens if you play SFV with charge players like Guile I want to know what will happen if I press back +down and then press forward +punch? Do you get sonic boom... If yes what SOCD can make sonic boom
Maybe it's not that you plateaued and can't get that last 20%, but that first 80% is your normal power level, and sticks were actually better this whole time, increasing how good you would have otherwise been.
It's sad that because of these Hitboxes Lever Controllers probably will die soon, why is that? Cuz these Leverless controllers have these shortcuts that make everything faster and I'm thinking to switch to a Hitbox too because eveyone seems to be rocking one now. My problem is that I will no longer feel the joy and feedback of inputs using a lever.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI sad thing is i do have the usb-c version. had to buy a magnetic connector to alleviate the problems. It's better but there's still enough doubts about using it in a tournament.
Mpress has released a limited run mixbox in the past, worth posting on one of the buying/selling forums to look for one, or maybe reach out to paradise and get them to do a rerun!
I'm thinking about getting an Mpress myself just because the buttons are all 30mm. not only that but the acrylic case when veiwed from the side looks really sick too
Want to look at a hitbox that'll trigger ALL the boomer stick users? Go look up Anklegator's custom hitbox. It has so many buttons on it so he can swipe across various directions to perform pretty much all of Potemkin's tech 😉
First time I've seen Snackbox's available in a while and I'm debating grabbing one. How are you feeling about it 3 months later if you don't mind sharing? Been using a stick since MvC2 and I'm lowkey scared of switching but the size of the snackbox alone makes me want to switch because I hate carrying sticks around
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI any thoughts on snackbox XL vs regular version or have you had a chance to try both versions? I’m sort of torn between both, I’m leaning towards the micro with the plate and hopefully it can be played on both lap and desk.
so, the back + forward = forward mode is not really cheating considering pad does this naturally (in street fighter, at least. idr how other games fuction with it) when you hold back on dpad and forward on analog. if anything, it makes it in line with pad. makes it easier to use than pad, as well. and since pad isnt cheating (lol. lmao), cheatbox, i mean leverless boxes are not cheating.
I am getting vibes of times when I competed in a VR shooter (communities were even smaller than FGC) and ended up leaving because you were forced to cheat too and changed dynamics of the game were no longer fun. Aside from different controllers providing different benefits, SteamVR allowed reconfiguring buttons that practically allowed cheating (jiggle peaking) and tournament mods refused to do anything about it because they were in top teams that were abusing these systems to death. This made harder for newcomers to join and, in my opinion, ended up damaging the community.
I really think that this is where the FGC is heading with these new controllers/devices. I mean, I don't think that there's something wrong with these as they provide a "different/precise" way to play the games now. The issue is only in the tournament scene, where there's going to be discourse about these tools. This whole debacle will end, if the tournaments start to become standardized as in the main tool will be to play on stick, hitbox, pad, with coconuts, driver force, keyboards etc. Until then, I'll just watch some matches without caring since, we are at point where you might not even know if the guy is winning because of the device or skill.
Yeah, it’s rough. I ordered my snack box in May of this year and got it in August. So it’s better to be on the lookout for when it becomes available again.
Someone wins EVO with a Garmin G1000 with Cirrus Perspective complete airline controller "Aight and we're back with another one, today folks I think we found our Hitbox killer straight out Microsoft Flight Simulator winning Strive" I honestly kinda wanna see that.
@@ConnieFWill last win gets rid of a few "cheating" shortcuts on hitbox controllers too lmao. Like double qcf by mashing db twice while holding forward. But it makes tk roll on bridget easier so I'm definitely going to try to get one
I purchased an MPress and got it about 3-4 months ago and continue to have issues with it. DO NOT BUY AN MPRESS It has issues where the board will short circuit if the screws holding the center of the controller together are slightly tightened, or if you just push down slightly too hard on the controller,. It will disconnect your controller and you have to unplug and plug it back in again for it to come back. I discussed this with the support team and apparently they are already aware of the issue and their only solution is to keep the screws loose, and by loose, like very loose. There is even a worse issue with the USB-C connector. The cord does not sit properly in the socket, and even the slightest movement will disconnect the controller. You basically have to sit perfectly still while playing or it will just disconnect you. The amount of times I got disconnected because my cat just breezed by the cord, barely touching it and I lost the game due to a disconnection is countless. I have owned PS3/Xbox HitBox for more than 5+ years that I've never had issues with it, it is by the far superior controller. The MPress has caused nothing but problems for me since I've owned it. DO NOT BUY AN MPRESS
This video seems confusing/uninformed. Last-input priority USED to be banned, but has been widely legal for a while now. The Gafro-box is even called out by name in the EVO rules as a controller that is allowed. TOs realized the arguments against it were just boomer shit(same as all the anti-hitbox arguments), and that it explicitly falls under the controller rules they laid out. Also offering no real advantage, and actually losing a lot of them due to losing SOCD neutral shortcuts.
I don't think that was a good demo of SOCD shenanigans because I'm pretty sure both of those actions are pretty easy even without SOCD tricks. Could have tried demonstrating it on Raiden's trials or something lol
Be careful with this company. Terrible customer service. Got an MPress and sent it back three times. It still randomly disconnects. They won’t do anything about it anymore because it’s out of warranty now D:
"Cheat Mode" has such a bad connotation to it, let's call it "Gamer Time"
X Factor
@@Delta_Red so cheat mode
"Stand back! He's going to game!"
Haha if it was with the rules yup but since it isnt cheat mode is the best description 🤣
Gamer Time, engaged!
Had one of these for a while, one thing I really like about them is how solid they are. It's all acrylic which makes it super solid, no plastic feeling at all. I think there's a video of the guys who made it running it over with a car and it wasn't even scuffed afterwards lol.
acrylic is a type of plastic
@@omgdisfunny4852 but it doesnt feel like it. Like a really solid boob job
Most people don't know that SOCD option is available on most brooks. That "cheat" switch you're activating is also just a literal switch on the brook board to choose your option. You'll see the alternative options listed on their product page as well. It's great for charge chars
What you'll see listed for Brook Boards
Support two SOCD modes
Mode1：
Left + Right=Neutral、”Up priority” in all Up + Down = Up
Mode2：
Second-Input Priority,Left + Right=Right、Right + Left = Left
Mpress is IMO the best all button out on the market right now. Worth mentioning A) while it doesn't feel like a keyboard the way a SBM does, it does use mechanical keyboard switches and is compatible with any standard MK switch so you can really dial into the feel you want for the buttons (I use zylents 62G tactile, and it's amazing) B) something you didn't address is button size and placement. They run rimless 30mm buttons that are spaced the same distance apart as hitbox's 24mm, so there's no awkward feeling of buttons being too small while maintaining that tight spacing. Also worth mentioning the buttons are in a vewlix layout rather than the Noir layour standard for Hitbox/Snackbox. C) the "cheat mode" you mention was reviewed after daigo showed up with it, and while it was banned at that tournament, it's currently legal under Evo rules, which means it's legal basically everywhere besides the CPT which notably does ban it.
I bought my first arcade stick last year, a Qanba Obsidian, and although leverless controllers are probably better in a high level setting, I'm just here to learn fighting games for my own enjoyment and to do cool stuff when I play with friends, and I love how it feels to play on stick, so that's what I'll continue to use.
Exactly, ANY controller is fine. Don't ever feel like you need to switch.
At the end of the day is what you decided to choose that makes it fun to play fighting games
To me personally, the REAL “snackbox” will always be any arcade stick with a cable storage compartment that’s way bigger than the cable itself. If that’s not granola bar space, then I don’t know what is.
People keep drugs in there.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI The infamous _Smugglebox._
I'd keep weed and granola bars in there.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI that's how I sneak weed into Evo don't blow me up
Lmfao Jiyuna put the shorts on his Snackbox, absolutely legendary
I got em both, but I also think the mpress is just a little better for comfort. Solid buys either way, but if you're around 6ft or over just know that small Snackbox size might not be the play
the cheatbox community wins again
I absolutely love my EVO MPress! It was the first thing I bought in the venue at EVO.
It's beautiful.
Jiyuna my man, your explanation of this feature is incorrect.
The difference in the 2 modes you are talking about is that in one Left + right = Neutral, in the "cheat" mode Left + right = whichever one is pressed second. Pressing the second direction clears the first one. So you cant charge back while holding both directions in that mode, it doesn't work like that.
There actually comes an issue with that second mode as well. Things like Half circles or QCF from holding down back become much more difficult to perform due to the fact that you can accidentally skip over the down input by pressing the forward input too soon.
Also, that mode is not banned as it still does not allow you to input 2 directions at once. It will always take the second input you enter. But yes, it is good for booms and charge moves.
So the Xrd charge times are that small and it's technically possible on sick as well?
@@OmnipotentO yep. you charge maybe a frame or two faster with leverless + SOCD cleaning disabled. It's really not a big deal at all, and not actually banned in tournaments. Also easily doable on a standard PS pad
@@tylerm1491 little nitpick, but it's not about disabling SOCD cleaning, it's just another type of socd cleaning, usually called "last wins" socd cleaning
That's half right. It's allowed in most tournaments, but if memory serves me right, some stuff, including CPT events, requires back + forward = neutral and down + up = up SOCD cleaning. A lot of tournaments do allow any devices that feature any SOCD cleaning at all though.
This mode was banned in CPT a few years back, but apparently it's OK now? Or at least at EVO.
Lol Jiyuna showed us the bonus use of his victrix stick: Dumbell Mode
not seeing if anyone else corrected, but i have this stick also. the switch on left, regarding socd, it’s both socd. the switch just makes the other “last input goes.” it is not like daigo’s banned one, you cannot do left and right same time. do the controller setup on pc/look at inputs. it’s either neutral, or last input put in. still maaad fast.
thought i sent this..big thing is, the switch is built into the brook boards, and it’s still one direction x and y axis.
so legal, just mad fast. and if tourney allows, it’ll help with your cross up blocking.
side note, jfa working on putting it in their newer board micros as well. so you can get it on your micro too. it’ll all
go on their app
0:52 funny thing is, for me, compared to the hitbox, the snackbox micro's buttons are too far apart, so it's less comfortable to rest my fingers on/near the top 4 buttons. The mpress is way better in that regard
Yup, there is no "right" layout. Whatever is comfortable you is what's best!
I didn't know that mode wasn't tournament legal. I thought it was just a different kind of SOCD cleaning, and that both were valid as long as the game didn't register both inputs at the same time.
I'm very interested in that one, the Snackbox buttons seem too small for double-tapping comfortably, and I have long fingers anyway. I might look into importing an MPress at some point.
I'd buy an Mpress if it's not constantly out of stock for quite a while now though.
I heard 6+ month wait.
I have that exact M Press too. Did not know that was possible with the M Press. Just wanted a leverless controller and happened to see it at EVO.
It's the best looking one I think.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Looks like you guys got the silver trace. I got the gold trace version. It's super sexy!
I've been trying to pick up my hitbox/snack box/mpress but they are sold out everywhere :(
I wish I had gotten one several months back. But I wasn’t interested at the time. Now I been wanting one so bad mainly the MPress since it has more space to lay your hands than the Hitbox or the Snack Box Micro. Wish they wasn’t sold out. LOL!
I've had one of these for over a year now it is a really nice controller however I did have to replace the USBC receptacle because all of the strain from the weight of the braided cabe rest on the solder joints and the connector itself and I had to play like a statue because the slightest movement would disconnect my controller my advice for anyone who gets one is to save yourself the trouble don't go through what I did and get some anti static silicone RTV and encapsulate the connector minus the mating surface for the wire obviously I did this months ago and never had connection issues since
That seems to be a common problem with both this and the old Snackbox.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI yeah when mine broke I was going to see about sending it back to be repaired but being that my job is to build and fix military electronics I found this to be a simple solution to my controller problems 🤙
This whole debacle is reminding me of m&k vs controller for shooters honestly
Only thing about keyboard is that consoles don't support em so going to locals is a bit scuffed if the only thing you're used to play on is kb. This is why I'll be getting a leverless sometime whenever I feel I can justify the price.
Also there was the unfortunate situation at some tourney with Them's Fightin' Herds where both players in grand finals used keyboard and had to borrow some leverless controllers coz, well.. Can't really use two keyboards simultaneously if buttons overlap
LMAO what?
I got an EVO Mpress black with gold trace and LED, liked it so much I went and bought a second one! 😊 I have 10 joysticks and I feel like I probably won't even go back to joysticks... Love leverless.
Whats your setup on the mpress? I decided I want to get one as my first hitbox, they're so sexy haha. Thinking of doing cherry silvers, curious what others do
@@yomamasaccount i got their evo version with the black pcb front, gold trace. It comes as is, it’s not a personal customization. It came with their clear buttons. The quality is unsurpassed. I feel like they’re the best. The buttons are close together and the layout is different than the official “hitbox” so not everyone would like it but I do. You’ll just have to get used to it.
It takes MX switches, right? Try putting box switches in there. I have NovelKeys Box Creams in one of my sticks and they're my favorite buttons on a stick.
With the rising popularity of leverless, I wonder why no one in FGC is really using a Wooting keyboard? A Wooting is so imba that it provides way more advantages over leverless like it being able to customize up to 3 different values in 1 keystroke. That practically means you can set dash with just a button press and more.
That's illegal, but no way to check online.
First!!!
Damn that RBG one looks cool.
1:56 damn that's a cool feature.
Again i might get a hit/snackbox and try it out.
5:15 That's impressive.
And that's a pogchamp face right.
That needs to be an twitch emote.
5:33 I bet Jiyuna uses that feature on matches/sets.
Love my mpress!! Got the combobreaker one!
It's a beauty.
Yes! I snagged an EVO Mpress and they are so fire.
I'm getting one and a snackbox. I still have my first gen hitbox also. And my lever fight stick. I'll have them all.
I'd actually like to print out a template for both boxes so I can see where my hands prefer to rest.
I think on the Snackbox you're not even supposed to rest your hands, but hover them instead.
I tried this controller out and it instantly hurt tf out of my shoulders. I realized it was, because I was hunched over like a gawdamn goblin. If I have this on an elevated surface I'll probably like it much better. Still a good product though! You gotta try it once.
Work on that posture!
they finally changed the usb input! damn, should have waited to buy mine...
never knew about the cheat flash kick
someone with daigos reactions with better access godlike dps is crazy
The mpress is such higher quality than the snackbox. Way more comfortable too.
Yeah, definitely feels more solid but I like the Snackbox size.
I may stick with d-pad, but what is your favorite box overall? I'm tempted to try snack box. The small form factor attracts me for storage and tournament travel.
I like Snackbox Micro but pad is even smaller!
Depending on the quality of the controller it can be good or so so.
gafrobox was legal at last years evo, the rules let you use last input wins socd now.
Nice u got a Mpress the Evo model looks sick does it have the ps5 chip 4 compatibility, Daigo toetagged alot of victims with gaffro. Do u jump with ur left or right thumb?
Is it possible to have a detachable fightstick this thin?
I'm still looking for something like this to get off keyboard but unfortunately both this and the snackbox are sold out
Yeah, very hard to get now.
have you tried on "cheat mode" doing sonic boom moves while holding back and forward at the same time? like the intended result should be a [b]f+atk special move but deployed while walking forward?
Thank you for giving out your opinion. With Tekken 8 and SF 6 coming out next year I'm going to take the plunge on a hitbox of some kind. A toss up between this and the snack box micro :) Now which one do I choose...... :/
Both are good. I personally prefer Tekken on stick though; at least for Paul.
Been trying to switch for a few weeks been hating the learning process 😅 I move my wrist in the motions still trying to hit the buttons for motion inputs haha. Considering just getting an oversized actuator for my stick cause I just want easier walking and blocking anyway haha
Think months, not weeks.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI was expecting to be able to do bnbs after a week 😭
been waiting a long time for them to restock I been checking their site often.
Got my Snackbox micro Evo edition. It’s fire
I’m ok with box controllers mostly because the true fairness would be to only allow official controllers for the consoles where the game is available, and that would be dumb.
So let box controllers go wild, you’ll still need to learn the game and controller execution can only take you so far.
Just asking regarding SOCD last win vs SOCD neutral vs SOCD priority.....
What happens if you play SFV with charge players like Guile
I want to know what will happen if I press back +down and then press forward +punch? Do you get sonic boom... If yes what SOCD can make sonic boom
I think you need to let go of down?
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI you mean all SOCDs can't do the sonic boom without letting down go?
how can I set up my evo mpress like yours. I like the no led until I click a button
You can do it all directly from the controller, look up EVO MPRESS LED BASICS on UA-cam and they have a guide.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI thanks homie!
I've been wanting to try a small leverless controller but they're all out of stock or marked up :(
Yeah, seems very hard to get atm...
Can you get this in Europe ?
praying they don't stay sold out for long
Why would the box have a built in "cheater" button? Seems really odd
Man, I've been waiting over a month just for my Mpress Evo edition to ship
Biggest downside to all the leverless controllers is availability.
Maybe it's not that you plateaued and can't get that last 20%, but that first 80% is your normal power level, and sticks were actually better this whole time, increasing how good you would have otherwise been.
Ban Sticks.
always knew keyboard is the future of fgc controllers
It's sad that because of these Hitboxes Lever Controllers probably will die soon, why is that? Cuz these Leverless controllers have these shortcuts that make everything faster and I'm thinking to switch to a Hitbox too because eveyone seems to be rocking one now. My problem is that I will no longer feel the joy and feedback of inputs using a lever.
My mpress has kinda bad connectivity issues. It's got a good build but the connection problems seem like theyre common
My old Snackbox was the same way. Need USB-C version.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI sad thing is i do have the usb-c version. had to buy a magnetic connector to alleviate the problems. It's better but there's still enough doubts about using it in a tournament.
I wish someone would make a mixbox (wasdbox) version.
have you heard of the Odin mod? swap out any lever with wasd layout.
@@SiBai- yes but i really like this slim compact form factor.
Mpress has released a limited run mixbox in the past, worth posting on one of the buying/selling forums to look for one, or maybe reach out to paradise and get them to do a rerun!
@@Ashragi i actually saw that. Will look into it in the coming months. Otherwise I will make the switch to hitbox.
I'm thinking about getting an Mpress myself just because the buttons are all 30mm. not only that but the acrylic case when veiwed from the side looks really sick too
It's really beautiful.
Damn now I want this, but I still need to get the snackbox for my steam deck.
I have a EVO MPress myself and a Furin FRS and a hybrid lever + button box custom case from eternal rivals. Tons of good stuff out here for sure.
Want to look at a hitbox that'll trigger ALL the boomer stick users?
Go look up Anklegator's custom hitbox.
It has so many buttons on it so he can swipe across various directions to perform pretty much all of Potemkin's tech 😉
Barry Bonds mode
Aris approved amigo
First time I've seen Snackbox's available in a while and I'm debating grabbing one. How are you feeling about it 3 months later if you don't mind sharing? Been using a stick since MvC2 and I'm lowkey scared of switching but the size of the snackbox alone makes me want to switch because I hate carrying sticks around
Snackbox is my controller of choice now. I fully switched.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Nice, definitely going to try one. Might wait until they're PS5 compatible but I also want to get used to it before SF6 comes out
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI any thoughts on snackbox XL vs regular version or have you had a chance to try both versions? I’m sort of torn between both, I’m leaning towards the micro with the plate and hopefully it can be played on both lap and desk.
Guys, get started now. These are superior to joysticks.
In brazil we have a coolers models
so, the back + forward = forward mode is not really cheating considering pad does this naturally (in street fighter, at least. idr how other games fuction with it) when you hold back on dpad and forward on analog. if anything, it makes it in line with pad. makes it easier to use than pad, as well. and since pad isnt cheating (lol. lmao), cheatbox, i mean leverless boxes are not cheating.
It's legal!
No link to buy? How are you supposed to get your commission?
You couldn't buy it even if you wanted to now. Apparently it's sold out for months.
I thought cheat mode was legal since doesnt regular hitbox have that already built in?
It is legal!
I love my M Press controller
Who else went nuts @5:33?
Apparently this is actually legal in tournaments.
I wear jyncos, will mbox fit in my back pocket?
You can fit an Arcade cab in there.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI my pocket chain scratches the screen when I do that 😔
Wish mpress would be in stock
It’s back!
@@Neoxon619 yeah i got the email for it! but cant afford it this time around LOL the timing is so bad
Waiting for a PS5 snackbox
Modern mode ON!
I am getting vibes of times when I competed in a VR shooter (communities were even smaller than FGC) and ended up leaving because you were forced to cheat too and changed dynamics of the game were no longer fun. Aside from different controllers providing different benefits, SteamVR allowed reconfiguring buttons that practically allowed cheating (jiggle peaking) and tournament mods refused to do anything about it because they were in top teams that were abusing these systems to death. This made harder for newcomers to join and, in my opinion, ended up damaging the community.
I really think that this is where the FGC is heading with these new controllers/devices. I mean, I don't think that there's something wrong with these as they provide a "different/precise" way to play the games now.
The issue is only in the tournament scene, where there's going to be discourse about these tools. This whole debacle will end, if the tournaments start to become standardized as in the main tool will be to play on stick, hitbox, pad, with coconuts, driver force, keyboards etc.
Until then, I'll just watch some matches without caring since, we are at point where you might not even know if the guy is winning because of the device or skill.
As someone who has played on all different controllers, the advantages are HIGHLY overstated.
Aris warned me about you indecent folk
I'm trying to win evo here and every kind of cheatbox: snackbox, mpress, hitbox is all sold out. what the heck
Play pad.
Yeah, it’s rough. I ordered my snack box in May of this year and got it in August. So it’s better to be on the lookout for when it becomes available again.
Someone wins EVO with a Garmin G1000 with Cirrus Perspective complete airline controller
"Aight and we're back with another one, today folks I think we found our Hitbox killer straight out Microsoft Flight Simulator winning Strive"
I honestly kinda wanna see that.
If you don't rock a keyboard at every event you ain't doing it right
"so this part got banned in tournament, so we made it a little button on the side so no one will know". Like what's even the point.
that mode's not actually banned, at least not at EVO
@@ConnieFWill it is. You have to have socd enabled. It's in the rules. That just disables it
@@omgdisfunny4852 no, it's last-win SOCD cleaning, no SOCD would allow both inputs through at once
@@ConnieFWill last win gets rid of a few "cheating" shortcuts on hitbox controllers too lmao. Like double qcf by mashing db twice while holding forward. But it makes tk roll on bridget easier so I'm definitely going to try to get one
Apparently it's not banned!
this thing is beautiful, kinda scared to make the jump from normie arcade stick to something like that.
Lord Aris is a prophet
I'm completely against the cheatbox, but I do have to admit, the build quality is pretty sick. I might just have to cop one on the dl.
GO1 the best player plays on stick, I keep playing on stick. (AAAnd I'm too lazy to do the switch...)
I purchased an MPress and got it about 3-4 months ago and continue to have issues with it. DO NOT BUY AN MPRESS
It has issues where the board will short circuit if the screws holding the center of the controller together are slightly tightened, or if you just push down slightly too hard on the controller,. It will disconnect your controller and you have to unplug and plug it back in again for it to come back. I discussed this with the support team and apparently they are already aware of the issue and their only solution is to keep the screws loose, and by loose, like very loose.
There is even a worse issue with the USB-C connector. The cord does not sit properly in the socket, and even the slightest movement will disconnect the controller. You basically have to sit perfectly still while playing or it will just disconnect you. The amount of times I got disconnected because my cat just breezed by the cord, barely touching it and I lost the game due to a disconnection is countless.
I have owned PS3/Xbox HitBox for more than 5+ years that I've never had issues with it, it is by the far superior controller. The MPress has caused nothing but problems for me since I've owned it.
DO NOT BUY AN MPRESS
This issue is corrected in the CEO revision and on.
I got the last one :)
This shit's moving too fast, I hate living 2 years behind everyone
I only just got a damn hitbox in June... that's arriving this week.
This video seems confusing/uninformed.
Last-input priority USED to be banned, but has been widely legal for a while now. The Gafro-box is even called out by name in the EVO rules as a controller that is allowed. TOs realized the arguments against it were just boomer shit(same as all the anti-hitbox arguments), and that it explicitly falls under the controller rules they laid out. Also offering no real advantage, and actually losing a lot of them due to losing SOCD neutral shortcuts.
It sold out
I don't think that was a good demo of SOCD shenanigans because I'm pretty sure both of those actions are pretty easy even without SOCD tricks. Could have tried demonstrating it on Raiden's trials or something lol
Be careful with this company. Terrible customer service. Got an MPress and sent it back three times. It still randomly disconnects. They won’t do anything about it anymore because it’s out of warranty now D:
Aris was right.
Razer is losing opportunities
I was gunna unsub seeing you getting a cheatbox but realized I wasn't subbed in the first place so no harm no foul.
I can smoke you on stick too, it's not a big deal.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Don't care if you're better or not, cheating is cheating.
The term "leverless" sounds dumb as hell to me. It's a button box. Say what it is, not what it isn't.
2nd
Dude really promoting a cheat engine called controller. Can someone say CRINGE!!!!
Not sure if serious.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I’m not, been in your comment sections for a minute now, dude can’t even recognize his viewers smh