What ACTUALLY Happened to the Rudolph Puppets? - The Bizarre History Behind the Animagic

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  • @SpenserLi
    @SpenserLi 2 дні тому +195

    As a Chinese person that understands the importance of thank you little kitty in Chinese movie history I would never have imagined it had this deep connection to rudolf.

  • @kennylauderdale_en
    @kennylauderdale_en День тому +47

    Fantastic video. I especially liked your stop motion style Rig for your channel mascot. Very on theme. Really pulled it together.

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  День тому +6

      Thank you! I'm so glad because that detail is what I ended up spending like 70% of my time on XD

  • @mcthetoonster1415
    @mcthetoonster1415 2 дні тому +159

    1:58 I wish people would realize that there is a scene where everyone regrets how they treated Rudolph after he returns from his adventure and hears his story WELL BEFORE he proves his nose’s usefulness and become more accommodating of misfits, proving that the message is NOT so problematic.
    It’s right there, but people refuse to pay attention to it. It’s honestly pretty frustrating.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie День тому +14

      Rankin Bass is still absolutely heinous for suppressing the credit of the Japanese studios that they outsourced to

    • @compassrose1466
      @compassrose1466 День тому +3

      @@KaminoKatie??

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich День тому

      @@KaminoKatieFake. No one believes you, liar.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie День тому

      @@compassrose1466 They're not an animation studio by any stretch, nothing more than a production company that outsourced for cheap labor

    • @CrazyPan9000
      @CrazyPan9000 День тому +10

      Most people know, it's just a fun joke

  • @shadowgirl765
    @shadowgirl765 18 годин тому +34

    18:48 I literally kept thinking "something's off, Santa isn't to scale"

  • @BallotBoxer
    @BallotBoxer 2 дні тому +31

    Shoutout to all the underappreciated and underpaid animators that made this anime holiday classic. Mochinaga's group are stop-motion legends!

  • @badgerdax1763
    @badgerdax1763 3 дні тому +110

    It's quite heartbreaking to know that a lot of the things we enjoyed as children often end up the result of unpaid unenjoyed labour manipulated by others for the sake of easy profit

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich День тому

      It’s untrue. It was made by superior white people.

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod 8 годин тому +1

      Don't be such a Killjoy. There is nothing heartbreaking about this story. Everyone got their due of what was previously agreed upon in their contracts. Just because someone made profit off a project doesn't automatically make it a bad thing. Almost nothing in the modern world would exist without profit motive. The story of the Rudolph TV special and how it was made is a heartwarming tale of kind gentlemen creating a beloved Christmas story for children.

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich 8 годин тому

      @ But also the whole Japanese animator things never happened with Rudolph. It’s an urban legend that went too far.

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie 6 годин тому +2

      @@VidelxSpopovich Most of the Japanese animators that worked on Rudolph won't get credited until a making-of book in 2001. Too little, too late if you ask me

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich 6 годин тому

      @ They never worked on it. That’s all made up lies. Stop spreading misinformation.

  • @SatyrToon
    @SatyrToon 15 годин тому +14

    *And then suddenly, right before Christmas, the Museum of Puppetry started getting a bunch of emails calling them fucking liars.*

    • @KaminoKatie
      @KaminoKatie 6 годин тому +1

      Their PR team is probably scrambling rn

  • @Mylesdesu
    @Mylesdesu 3 дні тому +95

    Wow I had no idea that even stop motion animations that I watched as child was also outsourced... I've been watching Asian crafted content even earlier than I thought :o

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich День тому +3

      Nope. It’s a lie.

    • @UserOfTheName
      @UserOfTheName День тому +3

      ​@@VidelxSpopovich ?

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich День тому

      @@UserOfTheName !

    • @spookypooky1362
      @spookypooky1362 12 годин тому +1

      Not Christmas or Rudolph related, but the first Rankin Bass production I remembered seeing is their version of The Hobbit. My dad had already shown me some interesting anime, but that movie has always stuck with me. I was around 6-8 I think? I remember him telling me later that they outsourced the animation to japanese animators, which gave it a distinctive style.

  • @nicholasdunlap4210
    @nicholasdunlap4210 3 дні тому +45

    Of all the things we could’ve guessed would be the topic of this video - I don’t think anyone was expecting “National Treasure but Christmas animation”.
    Love the video! Something something engagement metrics.

  • @andrewcb9255
    @andrewcb9255 2 дні тому +15

    Great video! I’m glad to see that someone covered the topic of the misconceptions of the puppets and their whereabouts. It’s worth mentioning that Rick Goldschmidt’s books have updates on the puppets as he finds information.
    If I recall, more puppets still exist in Japan than one would think, even including the Miser Brothers from Year Without a Santa.

  • @chloukscolor7905
    @chloukscolor7905 3 дні тому +90

    Incredible animation work!! And very interesting subject. I didn’t know about this movie, but I’m glad to finally know what “late for elf practice” meme was all about, aha.

  • @salcarreiro6756
    @salcarreiro6756 2 дні тому +12

    A few things; that other Santa could have very well also been used in shots where Santa didn't need to speak while another animator was working with the speaking puppet. In my short few years in Stop motion, we would always have multiple copies of the same puppet as things on them broke or just worn out from posing over and over. In 2019 or 2020 I was able to mess with some glasses made for a Santa puppet that was "going into a collection, likely not to been by the public again." wish I took some pics.

  • @JustTheTeep
    @JustTheTeep 2 дні тому +24

    Swamp you're quickly becoming one of my absolute favorite youtubers by the way, I can't believe how consistently you're able to put out high quality well edited content like this and I look forward to when you're a 500k subscriber channel some day and I can say I knew about you before it was cool. Been following since your first delicious in dungeon video, and gonna be around for a long time to come.

  • @CelticShae
    @CelticShae 6 годин тому +1

    Well, this is my first Swamp Jawn video, and I'm in love with the in-depth work you did on this, as well as adding in a note in post to address an inaccuracy. You included a lot of different perspectives and quotes from many individuals involved in this sage. This is just absolutely excellent work. You earned my 👍 and subscribe. I'm very much looking forward to diving into your back catalog to see what you have more regularly been doing for format and length.

  • @FantaLain
    @FantaLain День тому +7

    This is my favourite Christmas movie!! We actually have a bunch of the characters including both the Abominable & Humble Bumble versions. The angry one guards the front door and Humble is helping out in our Christmas village!
    Thankyou for sharing this 😊

  • @pedrosampaio7349
    @pedrosampaio7349 3 дні тому +50

    Two great things about Dandadan:
    1) Dandadan
    2) Finding this channel :3

  • @scottywalnut
    @scottywalnut 3 дні тому +6

    This was amazing. Loved the old school screen flicker periodically traveling up the video.
    Been watching since the Dungeon Meshi vids, love your content and learning all about the various animation techniques.

  • @Lilith983SN
    @Lilith983SN 3 дні тому +12

    Rankin Bass styled Jawn is so cute!

  • @burntbeanies7886
    @burntbeanies7886 2 дні тому +18

    Amazing video, so well researched and well edited. Love how many things you pointed out, misspelt names in credits being one that boiled my blood. How dare they not credit the ones who made the actual film??? How dare the voice actors be paid so poorly yet one big name is paid far more? So many injustices, but thank goodness for you pointing them out so we can credit the real artists behind this amazing film. Thank you for a great watch!

  • @LookIamcommenting
    @LookIamcommenting 3 дні тому +5

    Absolutely one of my favorite videos from your channel, and there's a lot of competition! You took a lot of history and did well to condense it into a compelling 24-minute narrative. Having sources in the description and video itself is appreciated too!
    Presentation is fantastic as always - the way you animate yourself with some rankin-bass styling this episode is really going the extra mile. Always delightful to see the bits and pieces of animation you do for these episodes, because that's an entirely different skill from editing and scripting and you do it very well.

  • @marklastname373
    @marklastname373 3 дні тому +7

    Glad you made this, I always wondered about those little guys ❤

  • @feluriandelights4156
    @feluriandelights4156 3 дні тому +5

    would love more content like this! animation history is so fascinating

  • @hope7317
    @hope7317 47 хвилин тому

    i LOVE your 3D model mascot guy, it’s so cute and i feel like it has so much character, especially because it swivels at the hips and kind of wiggles around. it’s so cute! id love if you kept using it, especially because it seems like it took a lot of time. you did a wonderful job on this video, i loved it!

  • @Dogdrule
    @Dogdrule 3 дні тому +18

    The timing is too serendipitous, my wife and i just watched Santa Claus is Coming to Town last night and at the end of the movie were wondering aloud what ever became of the puppets and the sets - now we know!

  • @Bulldozer4000
    @Bulldozer4000 3 дні тому +5

    Definitely wasn't expecting to see Rudolph on this channel, but it was super fascinating all the same! More animation history deep-dives like this in the future would be really cool.
    Also, happy holidays!

  • @Mariasouza-um8cx
    @Mariasouza-um8cx День тому +4

    Your animation looks very cute!!!😊

  • @batsofman8981
    @batsofman8981 2 дні тому +4

    Aw neat!! Just watched the special with my nephew the other day! Rudolph continues to be enjoyed by new generations every year and I really appreciate learning more about the artists who made this historic piece of media happen, especially when much of their work went uncredited or under appreciated.
    I would love to learn more about Tadahito Mochinaga!! Even from this brief overview, what a life he had

  • @CherryZomb13
    @CherryZomb13 7 годин тому +1

    I cannot thank you enough for making this, genuinely. Immediate subscription

  • @mr.parakeet7977
    @mr.parakeet7977 2 дні тому +4

    It is absolutely criminal that this isn't getting as much attention as your normal videos tend to. This is such an interesting topic!

  • @chappieindahaus2509
    @chappieindahaus2509 4 години тому

    first time watching from you. so great job breaking out of the yt bubble.
    I loved this. thanks for making it

  • @quietvictories5694
    @quietvictories5694 День тому +2

    Nice video mr Jawn, get jolly with it

  • @KaladinPaladin
    @KaladinPaladin 2 дні тому +3

    Loved this story Mister Swamp

  • @pilferingapples1424
    @pilferingapples1424 2 дні тому +2

    I've known the previous "official story" of this for a while, so it's exciting to get new info! And the real story is much happier than I'd thought! An outsourced christmas animation miracle! thank you!

  • @GreatPastaHeist
    @GreatPastaHeist 2 дні тому +1

    This is SO fascinating thank you for letting this project grow. The 3-D animation is amazing!

  • @brokentoy8616
    @brokentoy8616 День тому +1

    Never seen you before, but what a fantastic video!

  • @lewiekong
    @lewiekong День тому +1

    Came here from your DanDaDan videos, and i haven't been disappointed. Consider me subscribed and happy holidays Jawn!

  • @lukrio99990
    @lukrio99990 2 дні тому +1

    I used to watch this movie religiously as a kid, along with all the other stop motion christmas specials
    Learning of their history is really fun and enjoyable, thank you for the awesome video! Merry Christmas

  • @Angie-ou8zs
    @Angie-ou8zs 2 дні тому +1

    Absolutely love the animation In the beginning 💖 you always amaze with your little flourishes

  • @adamfriedler2171
    @adamfriedler2171 2 дні тому +2

    such an incredibly interesting and well-written video! you've given me a lot better insight into the world of animation ever since your weekly vids on Dungeon Meshi! I really love your channel

  • @Lovehandels
    @Lovehandels 7 годин тому

    My mother would have loved watching this! She was a huge Rankin Bass Rudolph fan and she was big into the History channel back when it went over historical events.

  • @Birdsflight44
    @Birdsflight44 2 дні тому +1

    You're always making such high quality content, its so impressive

  • @braidedribbon
    @braidedribbon 2 дні тому +2

    Rudolph is my favourite Christmas movie. I even own a physical copy of it.
    Very cool to hear that stop motion was a technique started to preserve resources!

  • @blueberrypitbull87
    @blueberrypitbull87 2 дні тому +5

    Rudolph's voice actress, Billie Mae Richards sounds so much like Billie Lou Watt and the voice she gave for the English dub of Kimba the White Lion in the 1965 series.

  • @Mr59J
    @Mr59J 2 дні тому +2

    Intro made me nostalgic as fck 🥲

    • @Mr59J
      @Mr59J 2 дні тому

      I’m boutta holiday cheer rn 😩😖😫

  • @radiansaphir
    @radiansaphir День тому +2

    I was legit wondering this exact question just yesterday. Amazing and sad to hear how the real artists behind the beloved shows were kept in the shadows for so long.

  • @benriffey
    @benriffey День тому

    This was my favorite movie as a kid, very cool to learn more about it :D

  • @RecklingTurtle
    @RecklingTurtle 2 дні тому +2

    I LITERALLY just did this deep dive myself because I adore Hermey. Thank you for covering this!
    Edit: My original comment was made before watching the video and after immediately waking up and seeing this on my phone's notifications (you are my "drop everything and watch this upload" channel and I was just too excited) so I wanted to say a little bit more now that I finished the video.
    These movies have been such a long standing tradition to watch in my family since I was a little kid and it was earlier this month where I had also fell down the rabbit hole to see what happened to them. Definitely heartbreaking to know so many of them didn't survive very long and most of the information about the puppets really only involves the Rudolph ones (I love A Year Without a Santa Claus so it's disappointing to not know the fate of those puppets either), but I do hold out hope that maybe some of them remain in Japan in unknown collections, hopefully stored better than the promotional ones that weren't sent here to the US. I do believe some puppets were reused in other productions, I remember reading somewhere that a Mrs Claus' face was repurposed for a Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory production but I will take that information with a grain of salt. Either way, I'm glad the actual puppeteers are getting the recognition they deserved (as best as they can).
    I've gotten so many people to watch these movies simply because I love Hermey so much, so I can't wait to send this video to my friends.

  • @thequacker
    @thequacker 10 годин тому

    loved this video! might check out the special soon

  • @rosexknight
    @rosexknight 6 годин тому

    Omg thanks so much for this video! I never knew so many studios and workers went uncredited or were just plain credited WRONG (like fam how tf do you mess up someone's name spelling in credits WHAT?) It's sad that these folks are invisible like alot of animators back in those days, but it's so comforting to know that the puppets are in their rightful home tbh. It never say right with me that we Americans got them when they were created and loved so well (and correctly, not used as toys) in the original studio in Japan. It's good to know when I eventually visit the puppets in Atlanta (I'm local in GA, but if you know anything about Atlanta, it's a THING to drive to an in that city XD)
    Thanks so much for the fascinating video and thoroughly researched info~! Can't wait for that video about Mochinaga ;) Also, your character is adorable, where do I send fanart???

  • @LeBongFairy
    @LeBongFairy 17 годин тому +1

    FINALLY. someone acknowledges that rudolph is technically kind of an anime

  • @deathjunior7755
    @deathjunior7755 14 годин тому

    Subscribed, stunned you have so few subscribers tbh. Great content.

  • @chellastation
    @chellastation 2 дні тому +1

    Wow. this is very interesting. I hope everyone stays safe. Happy Holidays 🎄

  • @mirohs
    @mirohs День тому +1

    this is one of my favourite christmas movies. i started watching your dandadan videos a couple days ago and found this a moment ago. can't wait to see the conclusion
    edit: wow. just wow. this is downright enraging. so the people doing the actual puppeteering got pretty much nothing, and the voice actors also got paid absolutely jack. damn. while rankin seemed to have respect for them (and they seemed to like their jobs), the people involved deserved a whole lot more

  • @starwyvern010
    @starwyvern010 5 годин тому

    I really enjoyed this one- thank you!

  • @thatoneperson4861
    @thatoneperson4861 7 годин тому

    Just found your channel as of today but great video and catalog overall. Already going back through your previous uploads as your style is incredibly informative, cohesive, and unique. I love the animations and model you employ as well as it isn’t distracting and is really pleasing color and design wise. Keep up the grand work, can’t wait to see what you do next! Also out of curiosity what sort of animal is your avatar meant to be? I’m not very knowledgeable so I couldn’t really tell but was wondering about it.

  • @leholen381
    @leholen381 6 годин тому

    Before watching this video, the puppets showed up on Antiques Road Show. Some guy had them sitting in his attic for years after inheriting them from a family member.

  • @mostlyghostey
    @mostlyghostey 4 години тому

    To be fair, animators still often sleep by their desks in order to make deadlines.

  • @genesisfrog
    @genesisfrog 2 дні тому +2

    Such a good video!

  • @0therun1t21
    @0therun1t21 21 годину тому

    14:27 I love the Abominable Snowman, he's so adorable! I cry every time I see his demise, even though I'm an old lady now.

  • @k.Miles789
    @k.Miles789 3 дні тому +4

    Me being into rankin basses stop motion. My favorite is Santa Claus is coming to town

  • @crimsong8068
    @crimsong8068 4 години тому

    I went to the Museum for Puppetry and Arts back in May really hoping to see the Rudolph puppet. But apparently they only "come out" in December, (as a staff member put it.) I was disappointed, but there was plenty of other cool stuff there. Even if they weren't the screen-used ones, they would have been neat to see.

  • @dolphin64575
    @dolphin64575 2 дні тому +1

    That's some great sleuthing! ❤

  • @pharmtec24
    @pharmtec24 2 дні тому +1

    Sent here by Casual Historian. I’m glad I clicked!

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  2 дні тому +1

      Thanks for stopping by!

  • @Dantalliumsolarium
    @Dantalliumsolarium 20 годин тому

    oh this is amazing to learn!!

  • @KaminoKatie
    @KaminoKatie День тому +8

    Rankin Bass suppressing the credit of the Japanese studios that they outsourced to is such a heinous crime

  • @GWNorth-db8vn
    @GWNorth-db8vn День тому +1

    My Dad fixed TV's for GE, and they showed this early at the company Christmas party.

  • @akganimationstudioproducti3779

    I don’t care if the ones on display weren’t the ones from the movie
    Seeing them at the Center for Puppetry Arts is still one of the BEST moments of my life

  • @LucciShack
    @LucciShack День тому

    I love the new looks

  • @georgeferetatis1040
    @georgeferetatis1040 2 дні тому +1

    So fascinating

  • @aileenmorgan8276
    @aileenmorgan8276 9 годин тому

    really great vid, but the screen tearing effect is driving me absolutely bonkers, especially when text is on screen

  • @michaelquinones-lx6ks
    @michaelquinones-lx6ks День тому

    If Rankin/Bass was an automobile it would be just as reliable as a FIAT (Fix It Again Tony)

  • @sethsmith2161
    @sethsmith2161 20 годин тому

    So there might be more?! CAN SOMEONE CONTACT SOMEONE!!!! If there are more in existence or others they need to be properly cared for!!! Either in the us or japan WE NEED TO REACH OUT!

  • @pretzel1313
    @pretzel1313 День тому

    I could swear I've already seen this video but it says it's only two days old??

  • @UrLocalG1Transformers
    @UrLocalG1Transformers 6 годин тому

    18:59 that Santa was used in the GE paper advertisement 1964

  • @horsegirlgendoikari
    @horsegirlgendoikari 2 дні тому +2

    while i'm not a fan of rankin/bass animations myself, i found this super interesting. even though i don't personally enjoy their style, i know they were hugely influential in the animation world, and hearing about the lesser known (but no less influential himself) Mochinaga was really cool to learn about. Thanks for yet another great video, and i always enjoy your style emulations!

  • @drakeversteeg2782
    @drakeversteeg2782 7 годин тому

    this is interesting lore

  • @Shadowkey392
    @Shadowkey392 2 години тому

    Cool!

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint 9 годин тому

    Oooh, neat!

  • @dylankent9644
    @dylankent9644 3 дні тому +2

    Stop motion time

  • @SeventhSwell
    @SeventhSwell День тому

    Like for Zombie Land Saga. The rest of the video is nice too.

  • @jacobe2995
    @jacobe2995 9 годин тому

    'Dentist'

  • @jhmcd2
    @jhmcd2 3 години тому

    I know its outside of the preview for this video, but essentially the Japanese animation industry wouldn't exist without the United States. There was simply no funding in that time period for it within Japan. But that's not what I mean. I've been doing a lot of research on the pre-WWII and post-WWII periods, and these studios would often spend 12-14 hours a day working on their own content even before the post war era. Even today, those sorts of work days isn't uncommon. What they didn't like was having to work for the United States. Recall, they had just been told for 30 years that the US was the enemy...then the lost very badly to them. In Japan's mind, WWII really lasted from the first bombings of Tokyo to the signing of the surrender on the Missouri. Yes, they act like the war started with Pearl Harbor (it did not), and you will often hear Miyazaki say this, but the war didn't get real until those periods. Even then, it is hard to find Japanese news papers in that period that covered the bombing campaigns in any real detail till after the surrender. It must have been like being water boarded with steaming hot water after you spent six decades on the North Pole without heat. They didn't like the work, not because the conditions, but because who they were working for. Even today, Miyazaki often comments how he wished he didn't need to rely on the US for funding. He often bashes his own success in the US market, and it is very much for the same reason.

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  23 хвилини тому

      That's really interesting, thanks!

  • @capuchinosofia4771
    @capuchinosofia4771 9 годин тому

    7:00 minutes in and I am all in for a history of chinese animation

  • @milicabojic9434
    @milicabojic9434 3 дні тому

    I miss the weekly sigma videos for anime!

  • @alli_mode
    @alli_mode 19 годин тому

    Happy Algorithm I mean Holidays!

  • @cameronwebb5621
    @cameronwebb5621 2 дні тому +1

    we have LSuperSonicQ at home

  • @tuiteyfruity5010
    @tuiteyfruity5010 День тому +1

    I don’t give two figs about Christmas specials, especially corporate ones
    But I do like learning about animation history and this video is incredible. I was drinking in all the information it was so fascinating

  • @candykats
    @candykats 3 дні тому

    YES, YES, YES
    I AM SPEED

  • @NoHands46
    @NoHands46 3 дні тому

    👍

  • @Will-y7q
    @Will-y7q 3 дні тому +2

    part 2 of asking for a beastars video now that the new seasson is out 😝😝

  • @Gep_05
    @Gep_05 3 дні тому

    totaly not algorithem bait comment 😉

  • @grumpykitten4890
    @grumpykitten4890 18 годин тому

    Everyone has their own opinion about a movie and when it comes to this one, I try to avoid it at all costs. It's just not my favorite. But I will watch this here documentary, hopefully I will learn something new.

  • @TheEudaemonicPlague
    @TheEudaemonicPlague День тому +1

    You lost me when you refused to say the name, Little Black Sambo. It's one of my favorite stories from childhood, and those who freak out over it are ignorant shits I want nothing to do with. So, goodbye ignorant shit, I'm blocking your noise.

  • @Sam-eg3mm
    @Sam-eg3mm 3 дні тому +1

    first

  • @olivetree9920
    @olivetree9920 3 дні тому +1

    Tbh it always had a weird sickening quality to it i could never stand to watch, even as a kid. I have no real or unique critiques of it; it just makes me feel weirdly sick

  • @Robin-ht7tr
    @Robin-ht7tr 3 дні тому

    ... why did you decide to give me nightmare fuel again. You went back in time 20 years to unlock trauma...thanks

    • @haleyhersh3850
      @haleyhersh3850 День тому

      Ruohdof gave you trauma? No hate btw just curious