I understand if people dont see they dont believe, fair enough, but they are here genuinely, around 12 years ago I was a greenkeeper on a golf course in North Cornwall, and one morning, me and two others watched a big black cat chasing a deer, why lie, we have nothing to gain, I feel i am really lucky to see what i saw
I know I've seen one, probably the same cat on 3 different occasions, this was about 15-20 years ago, and they were all fairly close together. It just strolled across the road in front of me about 100 yards ahead on 2 of the occasions, and it didn't even glance over at me. both were on my way back from work after a night shift. So this was shortly after 6am. Both times were on parallel roads to the same field. On the third occasion I was heading out fishing walking through a footpath which was away from the roads, but in a much more populated area on the other end of town. It saw me and scarpered. I know what I saw was not a dog, I know dogs pretty well. The movement was feline and on the third occasion I was able to see the face pretty clearly, and I would've guessed it was a black leopard or something similar. I also remember finding a deer carcass that had had been partially eaten, although that could've just been foxes scavenging. And on the walk back from the pub I reamember hearing weird growls type sounds in the bushes. That were quite unnerving (I lived in a village outside the local town, and went to the pubs in the actual town) One thing I do think is strange though, if there are so many of them, why are their remains never found? Did I really see the cat, or was it just one of those dreams that you think really happened? One thing I know for certain is that I believe my own eyes. I don't believe that there are many of them out there, because there are too many roads in this country and not enough sightings. They don't have enough wilderness to be hiding that well in my opinion. Whatever the case may be they're not hurting anyone or causing environmental problems so my opinion is that we should just leave them be.
I am sure that you were right in what you saw. I have seen Black Leopards twice, with 23 years between my sightings!. I feel sure there are quite a good number of these cats across the UK, including Puma/Mountain Lion and Lynx. They are masters of hiding away when they want to.
I know i saw one ,i was on late nights returning home on my cycle ,from work i rested in a lay by to get my breath ,I glanced around ,and i saw a large black cat ,about puma size ,it looked left ,and right crossed the road it went in to a field in the long grass.a day a so later ,i saw the cat again about 6-30am in the morning mists slowly walking across the fields a few miles where i saw the previous days ,This was 12 years ago.
I was a non believer until 5 sept this year camping on the river wynion north wales I was having a pee over the bank with my headlamp on when I seen 2 green eyes checking me out thankfully I had my fishing brolly over my fire then a large black cat calmly walked about 10 metres away around my tent and back down the bank... A couple of weeks later on an ex customs and excise officers house who worked on Anglesey when I told him what I seen his first words was I bet it wasnt scared then told he had seen them his words for donkeys years... They are all over now ive looked into it...
I believe they are for sure. I love this sort of stuff. Anything unexplained i am obsessed about. Big cats roaming the uk, UFOs and ghosts seem to be my three main obsessions 🤣 I used to put cameras out in lots of different places. With lots of things going on at the moment I've got out of the habit of doing it. Never caught anything too interesting, apart from a deer acting startled when an animal appeared (you could see a pair of eyes and it seemed a large animal) and didn't take its eyes off the deer.. whatever it was. Always doing research and soon i hope to continue my search. All the people claiming to have seen them is proof enough for me.
Awesome vids love this stuff, when I lived in the woods, after being in my camp for a week the wildlife started to become used to me and all of a sudden there was deer everywhere and some thing was chasing them.
Thats interesting! I used to set cameras up in lots of random places. One time a deer came over to check the food out and a mystery animal appeared in the distance. All you could see was its eyes, it appeared a large animal. It did not take its eyes off the deer. The deer noticed the animal and acted startled. I don't know what it was, but it was interesting how the deer reacted and how the mystery animal watched directly at the deer. Hmmmm
@@rubysmith7645 that's awesome, could well be a large predator stalking the deer. Out in the Nature really is the place to be. I'm lucky in that respect. Lincolnshire is mostly countryside to be fair.
Lol at 5:41 cheeky appearance. Thanks for this, yes I do think they're here, and in small breeding populations up and down the country. But I also think we have to rid our minds of the concept of these cats looking and acting like big cats from Africa, as we're traditionally used to seeing on telly or in zoos. The animals here are now very much uniquely British, adapted to British countryside, and interbreeding with each other and possible native feral cats (of which we also have no real knowledge of numbers). British wildcats are potentially going to be smallish, shorter and in a range of colours, hybrid-looking in many cases, and with traits and adaptations suited to this environment, rather than being the kind of huge, muscular, obvious black panther type of animals we'd perhaps expect to see. Some of ours may be not that much bigger than native domestic cats. Much of the UK is empty. Nobody goes there except the odd farming vehicle. The only really built up areas are the cities and bigger towns, but there's lots of land nobody is watching in between.
Great channel Abbie and great video 😀. Right up my street I have subbed. I am currently doing my own research on this matter and making videos. I have had my very own sighting and made a vid on the subject. All the best Abbie and keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻.
@@razworthers_3601 hey up Raz my old mate, I am in the process of making a video as I put out a rump steak. Got all the footage but just editing it. Not come any closer though I am afraid 👍🏻👍🏻.
@@JakeYorkman All u can do mate is keep trying cats have massive territories so if there is one that passes the area your searching it might take time for it to show up again.
i have recently seen an f4 Savanna cat at 1.15 am in Lincolnshire after leaving work. Lincolnshire is rife with large cat sightings. i was stationary at a roundsabout the cat was about 20 feet away slightly bigger then a alsarion dog . tan in colour, with square dark brown patches down its flank.
If we had big cats in Britain for decades, then surely one would of become road kill at some point, or an older dead cat body found. Especially with the UK's population density and road network, the cats would have been eventually sited and recorded despite being elusive and solitary. If I did see one I wouldnt record it or tell anyone anyway, it would be persecuted instantly. I live in NE Scotland with many forests and forestry plantations cats could hide in, the deer density is high enough too. Most recordings of big cats are usually grainy rubbish, there was a black one in Scotland filmed by a Police Officer on a railway line track giving indication of scale etc, but I am still not convinced.
I thought about this and if you were an animal as smart as a big cat that didn’t want to be found then you wouldn’t be and you’d only be seen by choice as well
Many big cats have been hit on British roads over the years. Once they are reported the authorities have dead bodies removed very quickly, and record them as dogs.
I’ve always thought they were escapees from rich Victorian exotic pets- there’s a video by a channel called like grizzly or something like that they made this huge documentary type video on the subject Edit: it’s by the Biome project
So, how many members of each species would be required for a viable population? Would their ranges overlap enough, without significant fragmentation, to allow for pairs to locate one another and breed? What's the mortality rate of young, how many cubs are averaged per litter, and do known predatory livestock losses allow for the predicted minimum population? And WHY DOES NOBODY IN CORNWALL OWN A TRAILCAM?
Fantastic video! I've never seen a big cat in the UK wild myself, but have always been extremely fascinated by the subject, read many newspaper reports & a few books on the subject. I definitely think big cats living in the UK wild is very plausible, judging by the reports I've read, & the different ways they could have come to exist in the UK countryside. I'm also aware that there's a global rewilding agenda going on whereby they want to introduce species into areas where they've never lived, such as rhinos into the Australian Outback. As we've been talking UK wolf reintroduction since the '60's & this has happened all over Europe except for the UK, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if puma & lynx are already living wild in the UK due to all the reported sightings! They're solitary hunters, enabling them to blend into the modern UK ecosystem better than pack hunting wolves. I guess we'll never know for sure unless we get sightings of these big cats ourselves & they start appearing in British nature books! Lets just say I'll believe it when I see it!!👍🛸🍺🍻😷😁👍
I’ve always been fascinated and have followed it for years. It scared the hell out of me when I was young! 🤣 especially the beast of Bodmin 🤷♀️. I’m glad there’s more science to go to now, actual studies with outcomes 👍
I uploaded a video to my youtube channel of a dear carcass i came across on a dog walk in durham england and i think a big cat killed it take a look please uploaded it 3weeks ago
@@bal20 it was definitely fresh because we walked our dogs on the same same track for weeks and spotted dear never thought I'd come across a dead dear never mind one that looked and eneded up like this. This vidoe was taking almost up 3year ago. Il have a look into the person you have mentioned
Puma would be cool Not too dangerous, quite adapted to European climate, shy, and can help to control the population of deer, exotic/exogenous but not invasive It's not a big deal to do with You could have lion or jaguar or leopard that are way more aggressive and dangerous There's a village in Africa where they try to find a leopard, they found 7 leopards under the roof of the houses i believe, but not the one they were looking for
@@russellschaffner62 Yes. They don't attack human, they avoid human. Attack are very rare and mostly defensive (if a dumbass try to go kill a puma or a traveller found a female and her babies). They are not dangerous. There's boar and deer in Europe wich are far more dangerous.
@@russellschaffner62 I probably know way WAY more than you on the subject of big cat, or cat in general, or animal in general actually. Puma/cougar are not big cat dumbass. Big cat is a term used to talk about the panthera genus. So panther like leopard/jaguar/tiger/snow leopard and lion. Puma and cheetah aren't part of the Panthera genus. And you have more chance to be struck by lightning than bé attacked by a puma. Actually you have 7 time more chance. And most attack are just defensive, they don't prey on human and avoid them. They are quite Shy. So when you don't know tge subject Just shut up. And even if there's a risk, Well yeah that's call life/nature risk is Always here. Death is a thing that exist, trying to supress it is stupid and bad, and i would rather take a minimal risk that do good to nature than taking no risk in a sterilised and dead World. Ho wait, most deaths are caused by human things so You have 10000 more chance to die by living in the city everyday or staying at home than from a bear in a forest.
@@russellschaffner62 Hey dumbass There a total of 126 puma attacks recorded in the past 100 years So barely nothing. Guess how many deaths. 27. Yes what a dangerous and murderous cat, truly a real Monster. Boars and deer kill 100 time more each years with car accident. And you realise that a cow/horse/dog/pig each have 1000 Time more chance to attack or kill you than a puma that do all he can to avoid you and is afraid of humans.
@@Nate_Luke Black Leopards and Pumas ( Mountain Lions) are more than happy with the British climate. Otherwise why would we have hundreds of sightings every year.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 Black leopard are still leopards they aren't different from normal leopards except that they have more melanin. I agree with you but there's no hard proof to say they are there.
So you can send a small crew into the dense Amazon for a couple of weeks and get 4k footage of Jaguars hunting, lounging, swimming and playing with their young. But you can't get anything better than a blurry image of what might be a melanistic leopard after 45+ years of them having stable breeding populations in the UK?
I think most of the 'sightings' will be misidentification from people who don't know what they are talking about, but some may have escaped and could be living on their own in the wild. It is highly unlikely there is any breeding populations as the chances of a male and female escaping in the same area are pretty much zero. However I would love to see a native big cat like the Eurasian Lynx return to the UK.
I uploaded a vidoe 3weeks ago of a dear carcass i came across in durham england and i think a big cat killed it, to anwser your question i think the Big cats in the uk are not wide spread enought to be hard wired into our dear brain as a threat, e.g no natural preditor i also uploaded a video of a dear i spotted on train tracks , uk dear seem docile ish to threats
@@louk597That may be true but a deer carcass may still not be a sign of a big cat. There are many fake big cat carcasses. There a video I once saw where big cat experts were told to examine the so called big cat kills and all of them were fake or should I say man made.
@@Nate_Luke well again watch my vidoe i uploaded 3weeks ago on my youtube channel Then reply to me..dont just read this and then just anwser me go check my video out and tell me what you think. im not claiming to be an exspert but if you could have a look and tell me what you think because to me it looks like a cat has ambush a dear dragged in the bush and ate it, look at the grass in the vidoe somthing of size has clearly been layed on the grass and in the bush. Again look at the vidoe and then comment back to me
@@louk597 Yeah I saw it. And I think any animal could have done it. A fox and even a dog. There only proof that will solidify the evidence of the presence of a large cat in the UK is visual evidence. Can't rely on eaten carcasses. There may be a big cat, but I think the chances are 0.5% out of 100%.
My daughter aged five came back from school saying she had seen a cat on the road bigger than a Labrador. Quite unconcerned. Wanted to know what’s for dinner. We had a Labrador at the time.
Three times a year we stay at a bed and breakfast 3.5 miles outside Ross on Wye.. we were there the first weekend of November.. and a large black cat... possibly a puma.. was seen sat happily with two deers on the Saturday morning! it seems to have appeared all of a sudden.. the owners wife saw it dashing over their driveway a week or so before... their property is surrounded by ancient woodland.. we went out into the woods Saturday evening in the gathering gloom and heard a squeaky mewing which we matched to a puma call on UA-cam...
There's a lot of wild big cats thats got released into the wild because the people keeping them that had licenses that had to pay for them so they let them go ' they have been spotted in Darkmoor country
Iv always thought that wherever you get rich people you get exotics. And shooting a leopard with an old and somehow more appealing rifle with iron sights and obsolete gauge bullets is probably the epitome of some rich guys year.. when they get to hunt African big game in the uk without the expense of another African flight lol. These animals are traded around the world daily.. and yes money buys black leopards! Not them peasanty ones the Smiths got with the rosettes...
How many attacks on humans ( children )? Livestock attacked? Tracks and spore? Not just sightings. Every year here in the United States we have puma attacks on hikers in California. They will lay in wait on a used trails for humans to come to them.
Hey, I have experience of a large black cat on my old property near Radstock in Somerset (search Black cat seen by students at Somerset college, within 1.5 miles). We found evidence of big cat predation on a number of carcasses of pheasants and rabbits. I also collected first hand reports of Lynx, Puma and melanistic leopards all from within a small area of the BA postcode. I can assure you there is and has been a population of Lynx in this area, (search Downside abbey, Lynx, monks) for many hundreds of years. Please also consider the historical Black Dog sightings. These became prevalent as the common folk turned to oil lamps, from the traditional burning torches. The eyes glowed green, the would scream, jump up and down trees and over great distance, normally in the vicinity of a water source. Does that sound like canine behaviour? If you really do want to discuss the numerous details of the sightings in this area up until 2010, I am more than happy to do so. Peace
I strongly believe it’s a myth Let’s look at some facts A lot if not half of the sightings were of a big black cat (Black leopard/Black Jaguar) but melanistic Leopards and Jaguars are very rare. There have been more sightings than there are of these animals so I think we can debunk that one These sightings have been going on for decades by now if it really was real there 100% would be some solid evidence by now but there isn’t so I believe all this is just a myth yes big cats were released into the wild but not enough to breed for this meany years they’d be extremely inbred by now deformed and most likely wouldn’t even survive more than a few days if they were that inbred which they would have to be to still be breeding with such small numbers released decades ago and the ones that were released all that time ago would have died by now simply from old age
The fact is that there are many of these animals and in most parts of the UK. Even some of our islands. They breed, have plenty of food and cover, and are experts at keeping hidden. Only hunger or thirst brings them out of their comfort zone, which is mainly in the hours of darkness. They are very real. They pose no harm to humans generally though.
It is no phantom! Until you have seen or heard one, you probably will not know what you are talking about. Sorry, but when you do, everything about your opinion changes.
Puma, cougar, mountain lion, catamount all refer to the same American big cat species, although they aren’t part of the panthera group with other big cats
There's nothing phantom about them. And your (recycled) "facts" are wrong. There's the scottish wild cat and also the kellas cat, a wildcat/domestic hybrid.
@@Nate_Luke Exactly how much evidence do you want?. Ask Police, Forest Rangers, etc. There are so many seen each week, but most people don't report them, and in country areas they just treat it as normal.
I remembered this article in the Guardian, thought it might interest you - www.theguardian.com/global/2019/apr/14/britains-big-cats-are-pumas-running-wild-or-is-it-our-imagination
I understand if people dont see they dont believe, fair enough, but they are here genuinely, around 12 years ago I was a greenkeeper on a golf course in North Cornwall, and one morning, me and two others watched a big black cat chasing a deer, why lie, we have nothing to gain, I feel i am really lucky to see what i saw
I know I've seen one, probably the same cat on 3 different occasions, this was about 15-20 years ago, and they were all fairly close together. It just strolled across the road in front of me about 100 yards ahead on 2 of the occasions, and it didn't even glance over at me. both were on my way back from work after a night shift. So this was shortly after 6am. Both times were on parallel roads to the same field. On the third occasion I was heading out fishing walking through a footpath which was away from the roads, but in a much more populated area on the other end of town. It saw me and scarpered. I know what I saw was not a dog, I know dogs pretty well. The movement was feline and on the third occasion I was able to see the face pretty clearly, and I would've guessed it was a black leopard or something similar. I also remember finding a deer carcass that had had been partially eaten, although that could've just been foxes scavenging. And on the walk back from the pub I reamember hearing weird growls type sounds in the bushes. That were quite unnerving (I lived in a village outside the local town, and went to the pubs in the actual town) One thing I do think is strange though, if there are so many of them, why are their remains never found? Did I really see the cat, or was it just one of those dreams that you think really happened?
One thing I know for certain is that I believe my own eyes. I don't believe that there are many of them out there, because there are too many roads in this country and not enough sightings. They don't have enough wilderness to be hiding that well in my opinion.
Whatever the case may be they're not hurting anyone or causing environmental problems so my opinion is that we should just leave them be.
I am sure that you were right in what you saw. I have seen Black Leopards twice, with 23 years between my sightings!.
I feel sure there are quite a good number of these cats across the UK, including Puma/Mountain Lion and Lynx. They are masters of hiding away when they want to.
Yes, no doubt at all. All across the UK and Ireland.
I know i saw one ,i was on late nights returning home on my cycle ,from work i rested in a lay by to get my breath ,I glanced around ,and i saw a large black cat ,about puma size ,it looked left ,and right crossed the road it went in to a field in the long grass.a day a so later ,i saw the cat again about 6-30am in the morning mists slowly walking across the fields a few miles where i saw the previous days ,This was 12 years ago.
I was a non believer until 5 sept this year camping on the river wynion north wales I was having a pee over the bank with my headlamp on when I seen 2 green eyes checking me out thankfully I had my fishing brolly over my fire then a large black cat calmly walked about 10 metres away around my tent and back down the bank... A couple of weeks later on an ex customs and excise officers house who worked on Anglesey when I told him what I seen his first words was I bet it wasnt scared then told he had seen them his words for donkeys years... They are all over now ive looked into it...
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I believe they are for sure. I love this sort of stuff. Anything unexplained i am obsessed about. Big cats roaming the uk, UFOs and ghosts seem to be my three main obsessions 🤣
I used to put cameras out in lots of different places. With lots of things going on at the moment I've got out of the habit of doing it. Never caught anything too interesting, apart from a deer acting startled when an animal appeared (you could see a pair of eyes and it seemed a large animal) and didn't take its eyes off the deer.. whatever it was. Always doing research and soon i hope to continue my search. All the people claiming to have seen them is proof enough for me.
Awesome vids love this stuff, when I lived in the woods, after being in my camp for a week the wildlife started to become used to me and all of a sudden there was deer everywhere and some thing was chasing them.
Thats interesting! I used to set cameras up in lots of random places. One time a deer came over to check the food out and a mystery animal appeared in the distance. All you could see was its eyes, it appeared a large animal. It did not take its eyes off the deer. The deer noticed the animal and acted startled. I don't know what it was, but it was interesting how the deer reacted and how the mystery animal watched directly at the deer. Hmmmm
@@rubysmith7645 that's awesome, could well be a large predator stalking the deer. Out in the Nature really is the place to be. I'm lucky in that respect. Lincolnshire is mostly countryside to be fair.
@@rubysmith7645 Also I'm thinking of investing in some camera traps myself, if you have any recommendations that would be appreciated.
Lol at 5:41 cheeky appearance. Thanks for this, yes I do think they're here, and in small breeding populations up and down the country. But I also think we have to rid our minds of the concept of these cats looking and acting like big cats from Africa, as we're traditionally used to seeing on telly or in zoos.
The animals here are now very much uniquely British, adapted to British countryside, and interbreeding with each other and possible native feral cats (of which we also have no real knowledge of numbers). British wildcats are potentially going to be smallish, shorter and in a range of colours, hybrid-looking in many cases, and with traits and adaptations suited to this environment, rather than being the kind of huge, muscular, obvious black panther type of animals we'd perhaps expect to see. Some of ours may be not that much bigger than native domestic cats. Much of the UK is empty. Nobody goes there except the odd farming vehicle. The only really built up areas are the cities and bigger towns, but there's lots of land nobody is watching in between.
My friend who is very level headed saw a black panther along the A38 in Devon
would u consider doing a video on all the birds which r being reintaduced or moving back to the uk because their is quite a few thanks
Sure 😊
Seconded!
Such as what?
I saw a puma one early morning.. Right in front of my car!.. I never reported it. Who would believe me?
If there is photographic or video evidence, it would be very convincing
Didn't the Victorian's used to keep them as pets at one point and used to let them go in the wild. Apparently there are wallabies in peak district to.
Wallabies in a lot of places.
My dad shot a large Eurasian lynx on our property 8 years ago. It’s not something I’m proud of at all, but I know for sure that they’re out there
Great video! Would you consider making a video about the Thylacine (likelihood of them still being around etc)
I've always been interested in these. Also on a side note, I like your eye makeup!
They are here, end of!!!!!
Glad I found your channel keep it up! Ps you have really nice eyes
Great channel Abbie and great video 😀. Right up my street I have subbed.
I am currently doing my own research on this matter and making videos. I have had my very own sighting and made a vid on the subject.
All the best Abbie and keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻.
Thankyou! 😀
Alright jake any new videos of your own due out yet and any closer in finding concrete evidence
@@razworthers_3601 hey up Raz my old mate, I am in the process of making a video as I put out a rump steak. Got all the footage but just editing it. Not come any closer though I am afraid 👍🏻👍🏻.
@@JakeYorkman All u can do mate is keep trying cats have massive territories so if there is one that passes the area your searching it might take time for it to show up again.
@@razworthers_3601 yeah u r right buddy 👍🏻. My new vid will be up Saturday I think mate. Don’t want to compete with England vs Scotland on Friday lol
I've seen one about 4 miles from Lands End where i used to live on a farm.
Yes I have seen them 2 times because of my job
i have recently seen an f4 Savanna cat at 1.15 am in Lincolnshire after leaving work. Lincolnshire is rife with large cat sightings. i was stationary at a roundsabout the cat was about 20 feet away slightly bigger then a alsarion dog . tan in colour, with square dark brown patches down its flank.
If we had big cats in Britain for decades, then surely one would of become road kill at some point, or an older dead cat body found. Especially with the UK's population density and road network, the cats would have been eventually sited and recorded despite being elusive and solitary. If I did see one I wouldnt record it or tell anyone anyway, it would be persecuted instantly. I live in NE Scotland with many forests and forestry plantations cats could hide in, the deer density is high enough too. Most recordings of big cats are usually grainy rubbish, there was a black one in Scotland filmed by a Police Officer on a railway line track giving indication of scale etc, but I am still not convinced.
There have been multiple big cats killed on the road in the UK.
I thought about this and if you were an animal as smart as a big cat that didn’t want to be found then you wouldn’t be and you’d only be seen by choice as well
Many big cats have been hit on British roads over the years. Once they are reported the authorities have dead bodies removed very quickly, and record them as dogs.
I suspect you'd still be unsure, if one jumped on you.
That was the Helensburgh cat. Looks good to me!
I’ve always thought they were escapees from rich Victorian exotic pets- there’s a video by a channel called like grizzly or something like that they made this huge documentary type video on the subject
Edit: it’s by the Biome project
Thankyou 😊. There’s another documentary coming out soon starring Rhoda Watkins.
So, how many members of each species would be required for a viable population? Would their ranges overlap enough, without significant fragmentation, to allow for pairs to locate one another and breed? What's the mortality rate of young, how many cubs are averaged per litter, and do known predatory livestock losses allow for the predicted minimum population?
And WHY DOES NOBODY IN CORNWALL OWN A TRAILCAM?
Hey, a documentary covering all these questions/queries is on its way soon 👍. Can’t wait!
I've seen one up close in Sheffield. bigger than a dog, the day after there was a reported sighting about 10 miles away.
Amazing!
I totally believe you Byron, they exist bro!!!
Love it, such a fascinating subject.
Fantastic video! I've never seen a big cat in the UK wild myself, but have always been extremely fascinated by the subject, read many newspaper reports & a few books on the subject. I definitely think big cats living in the UK wild is very plausible, judging by the reports I've read, & the different ways they could have come to exist in the UK countryside. I'm also aware that there's a global rewilding agenda going on whereby they want to introduce species into areas where they've never lived, such as rhinos into the Australian Outback.
As we've been talking UK wolf reintroduction since the '60's & this has happened all over Europe except for the UK, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if puma & lynx are already living wild in the UK due to all the reported sightings! They're solitary hunters, enabling them to blend into the modern UK ecosystem better than pack hunting wolves. I guess we'll never know for sure unless we get sightings of these big cats ourselves & they start appearing in British nature books! Lets just say I'll believe it when I see it!!👍🛸🍺🍻😷😁👍
I’ve always been fascinated and have followed it for years. It scared the hell out of me when I was young! 🤣 especially the beast of Bodmin 🤷♀️. I’m glad there’s more science to go to now, actual studies with outcomes 👍
I uploaded a video to my youtube channel of a dear carcass i came across on a dog walk in durham england and i think a big cat killed it take a look please uploaded it 3weeks ago
@@louk597 that's pretty good evidence there, pretty fresh kill. Might be worth sending to a big cat enthusiast like Rick Minter
@@bal20 it was definitely fresh because we walked our dogs on the same same track for weeks and spotted dear never thought I'd come across a dead dear never mind one that looked and eneded up like this. This vidoe was taking almost up 3year ago. Il have a look into the person you have mentioned
It seems unlikely that a decent number of big cats could hide for decades without leaving more evidence than a few blurry photographs.
Yes I seen one out of a train window close up
Puma would be cool
Not too dangerous, quite adapted to European climate, shy, and can help to control the population of deer, exotic/exogenous but not invasive
It's not a big deal to do with
You could have lion or jaguar or leopard that are way more aggressive and dangerous
There's a village in Africa where they try to find a leopard, they found 7 leopards under the roof of the houses i believe, but not the one they were looking for
Hahaha "not too dangerous" 🤣 sure
@@russellschaffner62
Yes.
They don't attack human, they avoid human.
Attack are very rare and mostly defensive (if a dumbass try to go kill a puma or a traveller found a female and her babies).
They are not dangerous.
There's boar and deer in Europe wich are far more dangerous.
You obviously don't know a whole lot about big cats and especially Cougars
@@russellschaffner62
I probably know way WAY more than you on the subject of big cat, or cat in general, or animal in general actually.
Puma/cougar are not big cat dumbass.
Big cat is a term used to talk about the panthera genus.
So panther like leopard/jaguar/tiger/snow leopard and lion.
Puma and cheetah aren't part of the Panthera genus.
And you have more chance to be struck by lightning than bé attacked by a puma.
Actually you have 7 time more chance.
And most attack are just defensive, they don't prey on human and avoid them.
They are quite Shy.
So when you don't know tge subject
Just shut up.
And even if there's a risk,
Well yeah that's call life/nature risk is Always here.
Death is a thing that exist, trying to supress it is stupid and bad, and i would rather take a minimal risk that do good to nature than taking no risk in a sterilised and dead World.
Ho wait, most deaths are caused by human things so
You have 10000 more chance to die by living in the city everyday or staying at home than from a bear in a forest.
@@russellschaffner62
Hey dumbass
There a total of 126 puma attacks recorded in the past 100 years
So barely nothing.
Guess how many deaths.
27.
Yes what a dangerous and murderous cat, truly a real Monster.
Boars and deer kill 100 time more each years with car accident.
And you realise that a cow/horse/dog/pig each have 1000 Time more chance to attack or kill you than a puma that do all he can to avoid you and is afraid of humans.
But if there were, it would either be a puma, a Persian leopard or an Amur leopard as they are suited for cold climates.
@@pigfarmerindorset9240 I don't mean everywhere in the Britain
@@Nate_Luke Black Leopards and Pumas ( Mountain Lions) are more than happy with the British climate. Otherwise why would we have hundreds of sightings every year.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 Black leopard are still leopards they aren't different from normal leopards except that they have more melanin. I agree with you but there's no hard proof to say they are there.
@@Nate_Luke Not quite sure what you mean. I am well aware of melanistic black leopard and jaguar.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 No I meant they way you said it, it's like a different species.
Definitely big cats in the uk, quite a few round east anglia...
Yes they definately are
Big cats are native to UK
So you can send a small crew into the dense Amazon for a couple of weeks and get 4k footage of Jaguars hunting, lounging, swimming and playing with their young. But you can't get anything better than a blurry image of what might be a melanistic leopard after 45+ years of them having stable breeding populations in the UK?
I think most of the 'sightings' will be misidentification from people who don't know what they are talking about, but some may have escaped and could be living on their own in the wild. It is highly unlikely there is any breeding populations as the chances of a male and female escaping in the same area are pretty much zero. However I would love to see a native big cat like the Eurasian Lynx return to the UK.
Well crack open a bottle, because they are here now, living and breeding in the UK.
If there were big cats, how is it that the deer behavior in the UK has not changed.
I uploaded a vidoe 3weeks ago of a dear carcass i came across in durham england and i think a big cat killed it, to anwser your question i think the Big cats in the uk are not wide spread enought to be hard wired into our dear brain as a threat, e.g no natural preditor i also uploaded a video of a dear i spotted on train tracks , uk dear seem docile ish to threats
@@louk597That may be true but a deer carcass may still not be a sign of a big cat. There are many fake big cat carcasses. There a video I once saw where big cat experts were told to examine the so called big cat kills and all of them were fake or should I say man made.
@@Nate_Luke well again watch my vidoe i uploaded 3weeks ago on my youtube channel Then reply to me..dont just read this and then just anwser me go check my video out and tell me what you think. im not claiming to be an exspert but if you could have a look and tell me what you think because to me it looks like a cat has ambush a dear dragged in the bush and ate it, look at the grass in the vidoe somthing of size has clearly been layed on the grass and in the bush. Again look at the vidoe and then comment back to me
@@louk597 Yeah I saw it. And I think any animal could have done it. A fox and even a dog. There only proof that will solidify the evidence of the presence of a large cat in the UK is visual evidence. Can't rely on eaten carcasses. There may be a big cat, but I think the chances are 0.5% out of 100%.
@@Nate_Luke fair play cant say fairer then that i respect your thoughts, if i catch anything more not that im looking il post it and track you down
My daughter aged five came back from school saying she had seen a cat on the road bigger than a Labrador. Quite unconcerned. Wanted to know what’s for dinner. We had a Labrador at the time.
Well it could be perspective
@@kaidenhall2718 Country road. She was on foot.
@@hotelsierra86 yea but she could just of been far away by the way what year was it
Found "what's for dinner"/We had a labrador at the time, a little disturbing!
@@carlpeberdy9086 Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.
Three times a year we stay at a bed and breakfast 3.5 miles outside Ross on Wye.. we were there the first weekend of November.. and a large black cat... possibly a puma.. was seen sat happily with two deers on the Saturday morning! it seems to have appeared all of a sudden.. the owners wife saw it dashing over their driveway a week or so before... their property is surrounded by ancient woodland.. we went out into the woods Saturday evening in the gathering gloom and heard a squeaky mewing which we matched to a puma call on UA-cam...
Beware the moors, don’t stray from the path! 👍🏴
There's a lot of wild big cats thats got released into the wild because the people keeping them that had licenses that had to pay for them so they let them go ' they have been spotted in Darkmoor country
I love your video so much
The marines didnt "fail to find anything". They saw a/the cat, but couldn't take a shot, as there was a farmhouse behind it, so it wasn't safe.
Iv always thought that wherever you get rich people you get exotics. And shooting a leopard with an old and somehow more appealing rifle with iron sights and obsolete gauge bullets is probably the epitome of some rich guys year.. when they get to hunt African big game in the uk without the expense of another African flight lol. These animals are traded around the world daily.. and yes money buys black leopards! Not them peasanty ones the Smiths got with the rosettes...
How many attacks on humans ( children )? Livestock attacked? Tracks and spore? Not just sightings. Every year here in the United States we have puma attacks on hikers in California. They will lay in wait on a used trails for humans to come to them.
I'm bit buying it at all. England is to small for them to stay undetected
*not *too *uneducated
Hey, I have experience of a large black cat on my old property near Radstock in Somerset (search Black cat seen by students at Somerset college, within 1.5 miles). We found evidence of big cat predation on a number of carcasses of pheasants and rabbits. I also collected first hand reports of Lynx, Puma and melanistic leopards all from within a small area of the BA postcode.
I can assure you there is and has been a population of Lynx in this area, (search Downside abbey, Lynx, monks) for many hundreds of years.
Please also consider the historical Black Dog sightings. These became prevalent as the common folk turned to oil lamps, from the traditional burning torches. The eyes glowed green, the would scream, jump up and down trees and over great distance, normally in the vicinity of a water source. Does that sound like canine behaviour?
If you really do want to discuss the numerous details of the sightings in this area up until 2010, I am more than happy to do so. Peace
Please leave out the music. Makes it hard to hear you and serves as a distraction only.
I like to think it's true but it's probably not true
I strongly believe it’s a myth
Let’s look at some facts
A lot if not half of the sightings were of a big black cat (Black leopard/Black Jaguar) but melanistic Leopards and Jaguars are very rare. There have been more sightings than there are of these animals so I think we can debunk that one
These sightings have been going on for decades by now if it really was real there 100% would be some solid evidence by now but there isn’t so I believe all this is just a myth yes big cats were released into the wild but not enough to breed for this meany years they’d be extremely inbred by now deformed and most likely wouldn’t even survive more than a few days if they were that inbred which they would have to be to still be breeding with such small numbers released decades ago and the ones that were released all that time ago would have died by now simply from old age
The fact is that there are many of these animals and in most parts of the UK. Even some of our islands. They breed, have plenty of food and cover, and are experts at keeping hidden. Only hunger or thirst brings them out of their comfort zone, which is mainly in the hours of darkness. They are very real. They pose no harm to humans generally though.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 👏🏼
1st comment and view ohh yes
If they are it would be a catastrophe.
Why?. They avoid us as much as they can.
There's one behind you. 2:59
🤣 yep had to make a cameo!
It is no phantom! Until you have seen or heard one, you probably will not know what you are talking about. Sorry, but when you do, everything about your opinion changes.
There should be more evidence if they were here
There is loads of evidence they are here in the UK
No.
Los coleccionistas sé cansan de sus mascotas"
DNA confirmed recently.
Puma is a mythical name, not a species.
Puma, cougar, mountain lion, catamount all refer to the same American big cat species, although they aren’t part of the panthera group with other big cats
Cruel jet 60
There's nothing phantom about them. And your (recycled) "facts" are wrong. There's the scottish wild cat and also the kellas cat, a wildcat/domestic hybrid.
Thank-you. Have a lovely day 😊❤️
The only big cats found in Britain are only found in captivity. Stop getting your hopes up people.
Rubbish. Get real or don't make silly comments. They are all across the UK, Ireland, even France and Spain report them.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 I'm open to any concrete evidence proving their presence in Europe. So unless I'm shown I shall not believe it.
@@Nate_Luke Exactly how much evidence do you want?. Ask Police, Forest Rangers, etc. There are so many seen each week, but most people don't report them, and in country areas they just treat it as normal.
@@edwardtreadwell3859 Those are just statements anyone can make up. Show me something that's undeniable like video evidence.
@@Nate_Luke Have a look yourself. You need a reality check.
until there is clear evidence that there is big cats in the UK then its nonsense.
I remembered this article in the Guardian, thought it might interest you - www.theguardian.com/global/2019/apr/14/britains-big-cats-are-pumas-running-wild-or-is-it-our-imagination
Also, the authors surname is 'Wilding'!
Thankyou I will check it out! 😀