My mother is a retired RN, she used to say that you never know if a patient who is in a coma can hear you or not. So she'd always talk to them, tell them what you need to do before you touch them, get their family to bring in their favourite music, audio books, put the radio on. Encourage the family and friends to talk to them. Never, ever discuss their treatment as if they aren't there.
In my first clinical practice as a student nurse, there was a man who had recently gone palliative and had become unresponsive. My group was brought in to see some of the physical changes that were happening. It just felt so natural, to hold his hand while my instructor spoke. I know he was grateful for the touch and thanked him for his time. @@insertname942
The most terrifying part of this story is that everything around the couch was clean, being kept up with, was being lived in. that makes me want to throw up the most.
Yes like it’s not like it’s an incompetent pair of low iq people that truly couldnt properly care for themselves well much less her. They clearly could clean, socialize well etc. they had money at their disposal, it’s crazy. If your daughter can’t get off the couch at the very least they have depression and should be taken to a psychiatrist.
I agree. How can anyone walk past that EVERY DAY and not go get help…? Especially in the early stages, knowing the person hasn’t been moving. As time went on they KNEW she was suffering and chose to not help her.
The parents not once had any company over in 12 yrs?! How is that even possible? Someone had to know what was going on.. I wouldn't be surprised if they were soliciting their daughter for sex that entire time.
@@desladd3932I wonder though since the type of town they were in, more than likely the neighbors have the mindset of “none of my business”. So they probably saw things that seemed off or questioning why they never saw her again for 12 years, but in small towns like that I wouldn’t doubt they would just ignore the warning signs.
When your daughter goes from being active, and athletic every day, to refusing to get off the couch or move; you take her to the hospital. What is wrong with these parents? My only explanation is that they did something to her to make her that way.
My daughter has "Locked In Syndrome" (completely paralyzed) from being hit by a drunk driver over a year ago. She has feeding tube, catheter, etc. She communicated by eye movement until a few months ago we were able to get her a special computer. She focuses her eye on each letter and when she's done the computer will speak for her. It has to be positioned right in front of her eyes. I pray science comes up with a better way of communicating & diagnosing patients who are "locked in". It was her devoted husband noticed she could roll her eyes upward for "Yes" & down for "No". Family does Physical Therapy daily besides the appointments. She's never complained, is very brave, keeps hope. We care for her now at home. People who are locked in need dedicated families to care for & love them.❤
Yeah, they probably kept blaming something or someone instead of taking action. I’m seeing it more and more, as if we’re all powerless, we certainly don’t want to be “Karen”.
Law student here. I usually don't see true crime youtubers accurately describe different grades of murder and manslaughter, so when you first went "voluntary manslaughter is...," I took a deep breath and prepared to hear another incorrect description and then it was like you quoted my criminal law professor. Amazing research and you're so empathetic. I followed you within the first five minutes of the video. This case has absolutely disgusted me since I first heard of it. No one. NO ONE would choose to live like that on a couch. Even the laziest people will get up to use the restroom or get something to eat. This can't happen unless something is seriously wrong--be it internal or (most likely) external. My heart shatters for her.
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy 🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵: Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion) Florian = Haji (Blood+) Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry) Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Adam = Ichigo (Bleach) Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen) Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone) Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist) Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter) John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha) John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha) Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball) Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden) Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan) Naveen = Train (Black Cat) Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia) Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia) Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins) Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail) Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸: Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion) Snowhite = Saya (Blood+) Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry) Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Belle = Orihime (Bleach) Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen) Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone) Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist) Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus) Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha) Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball) Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden) Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece) Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece) Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan) Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat) Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia) Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins) Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail) Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
Not true. Things like this can happen to anyone who is already challenged. Her screaming and refusing help. If her folks were so horrible WHY report her death?? Why not bury her in the yard? I'm withholding judgement until I hear the footage of their interrogation or deposition. And so should you. We don't have all the facts.
@@amusedBYfools They reported the death after she was already decomposing and they even dared to say she had just eaten that same morning. They saw her on that couch for EIGHT years, soiling herself, refusing to eat properly, to bathe, and they did nothing. They spent around 3000 days seeing her rotting away and never asked for help, not even once. Why did they report her passing instead of burying her body? Because in addition to being evil they are also dumb.
There is definitely something the parents aren’t telling us… this happened for so long, it wasn’t an accident. It was a decision made everyday for 12 years to let her rot away. Such a terrible way to die, poor girl. She didn’t deserve that treatment, no one does.
They said when they became parents they didn't sign on to be care takers. I think they are deplorable psychopaths or something. I wouldn't allow this to happen to my worst enemy, let alone my daughter. I keep waiting to hear if they will get prison time. 🙏🤞
@@mirzamay I completely agree with you! And what about all of the nail marks all around her area of the couch. Like she was clawing to try to stand up. Like she was clawing to try to get help and escape. Also yeah when you CHOOSE to become a parent you sign up to be a caretaker LMAO I don't know I genuinely wonder if they chained her to the couch at first. Like for the first few years and then after that her legs and arms are too atrophied she couldn't escape anymore so they didn't bother
@@WhitneyDahlin yeah, wow. Who knows what the whole story is. It seems like they were passive, she was off in college and living life and then she wasn't. To think these people or anyone could do this to their child runs counter to everything a decent person could think of, but if they could do this much they could probably do anything. This is off in the woods territory. They should investigate everything she communicated to her friends and regrets back when she could communicate and see what she told them about her parents. Because you'd think she'd have a phone, and if she could claw you'd think she could push buttons, so there may be way more to this anyone knows. This could be like when parents lock their child in an attic, but her attic was the couch.
She died at 36 in 2022, on the couch since 2010 when she was 24, she was pulled from school at 16, what happened during those 8 years? Where was she, what did she do? That’s the freakiest part to me, it’s only been 12 years, what about the other 8??
Considering they actively cut off her social connections, I’d not be surprised if 1 or both parents abused her. Using homeschooling and her autism diagnosis as a way to prevent her from getting help. Edit: ah, I replied before I reached the part where people have the same suspicion I do.
The fact that she got more and more reclusive since an early age (14 I guess) tells me she was mentally abused and sexually enslaved, and eventually her trauma led her to be catatonic, allowing her to be tied down and tortured.
@sandrawelch6653 Am currently at the 58:56 mark and so far its one of those things barely hinted at in the description of Lacey being "found" mostly nude, except for barely a shirt that didn't even cover her breasts. It's a small detail, easy to miss amongst all the other horrifying details, but one that suggests Lacey was probably suffering long before her couch days. Another small detail that's easy to overlook in this regard is she was pulled out of school as a teenager. Homeschooling isn't exactly something that gets *easier* the older a student is; it was a struggle with my young daughter during all the lockdowns (getting her to do the work; not so much the work itself.) Why would they randomly pull her out for no apparent reason? Perhaps some sicko reasoning of she's appearing to be womanly and her abuser didn't want her to get a boyfriend, or perhaps her abuser impregnated her and needed to hide it/"take care of the problem"/ensure she could never tell anyone. Perhaps. We'll never know. If there is any truth to these grim speculations, perhaps this may also explain her love for Disney movies. Happy endings where characters are saved from bad circumstances or true love conquers all. Heck, I'm 41 and still want that lie Disney promised little girls of the 80s and 90s: Finding my true love, sharing true loves kiss, and living happily ever after. I know it's a lie, but I still want it and I know I can't be the only one. Regardless, it would make sense that these movies could provide a form of escapism for someone in a situation like Lacey may have been in. Dreaming of her hero/true love/prince coming to her rescue and living happily ever after. The poor girl. She certainly needed rescued and nobody knew until it was too late 💔 Update: the theory gets mentioned around the 1hr 1minute mark. Along with some other theories. They are only theories. All any of us can do is speculate and theorize.
There's something extremely sinister about two people who can appear so genuinely kind and empathetic to the public and can simultaneously do something like this to their own, only child
Exactly. That is the most effed up thing I've ever heard. I can't even imagine. The thought just drives me up the walls. Image even the effect this had on neighbors and the community. How can you EVER trust people again?
@@KungPuKittyRescue maybe they meant survived for as long as she did. It's honestly a wonder how she lived as long as she did being treated the way she was. What evil people
Just a quick comment from a nurse who worked with people in a vegetative state, who look like they are awake but are not (as far as we know): Patients with Locked-in Syndrome can only move their eyes vertically, so that is one of the many things doctors nowadays check regularly when speaking to presumably unconscious patients. The awareness has risen a lot and I personally treat all unconscious people as if they were awake. Just feels right. Who knows what's happening behind that forehead. Thank you for spreading awareness and speaking about this condition, it is even now often mistaken as a vegetative state. So thank you
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy 🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵: Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion) Florian = Haji (Blood+) Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry) Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Adam = Ichigo (Bleach) Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen) Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone) Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist) Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter) John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha) John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha) Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball) Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden) Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan) Naveen = Train (Black Cat) Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia) Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia) Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins) Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail) Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸: Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion) Snowhite = Saya (Blood+) Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry) Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Belle = Orihime (Bleach) Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen) Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone) Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist) Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus) Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha) Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball) Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden) Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece) Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece) Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan) Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat) Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia) Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins) Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail) Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
My aunt was in a coma for a month, she told me all the conversations and things that happened around her while she was in a coma. Very scary stuff but she remembered my grandmother giving her comfort and she said she was always grateful for that much.
Please forgive my blunt language. Those people choose to watch their child literally rot in front of them for 12 years. To suggest that this could, in any way be attributed to this poor victim is insane and to call her “parents” anything but criminals is an injustice.
i just can't help but assume they're a different kind of mentally insane/psychotic to watch their own child rotting away on a couch. My brain cannot comprehend the evilness without assuming they're not all there in the head
Exactly exactly 💯 no matter how much her depression or no matt3r what they thought that was but 12 years of watching their kid literally melting into the sofa with insects eating her there is no exuse for that like even 1 year is alot
@@yumeyum9927en 48 HOURS IS A LOT!! It wouldn't even Cross My MIND to leave one of my CATS on a couch, unable to respond for an HOUR!! WTF WORLD??! 😮 THAT CAT would be in their case, on my back, me on my scooter bonzaiing through the snow naked if that"s what it took to get help for a creature in obvious distress. Folks, I can be sentimental, but when it comes to suffering I have zero patience when it comes to others. You do what needs to be done You MOBILIZE ALL Resources. YOU MOVE HEAVEN AND Earth TO reduce someone's pain and suffering I know this isn't how people tend to approach things these days. But that doesn't make it right That just makes it more imperative that those of us who still retain a shred of human feeling DO EVERYTHING WE CAN .. I'M just sick and angry right now. I need to go get some sunshine and fresh air. God Have mercy on your souls if you have any you ...subhumans- .Lacy's so-called parentsi 😢 Jesus Wept .
It is inconceivable to most of us. I mean, my skin crawls every time I hear about this case. I hope everyone involved get some counselling. Because I can't imagine that what they saw and had to do, wouldn't be affecting them in some way, shape or form.
This is horrible. Melting through a couch and slowly dying is the worst way imaginable to die. I really hope she gets the justice she deserves. Whether torture or not, it is so disgusting. Thank you Stephanie for shining light on this case.
I hope there's a special place in 🔥🔥 for her sperm and egg donor. They're not parents in any way. When I think I've heard the worst thing ever, like the Shanda Vander Ark case, there's aIways something worse. Idk if Hades is hot enough for someone who could do such a thing.
No one is "lazy" to the point that they refuse to get off the couch. There was something seriously wrong with her and her parents ignored it. They hid it, because they knew it was wrong. It's bizarre and there's no excuse good enough to justify watching another human, your own daughter, rot in front of your own eyes.
The fact that they lived in the house with that constant stench in the air but no one ever commented on the way the parents smelled, means they went to extraordinary measures to prevent the exposure of their own clothes and belongings to the putrid air in that living room. Instead of just bathing their adult daughter.
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy 🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵: Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion) Florian = Haji (Blood+) Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry) Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Adam = Ichigo (Bleach) Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen) Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone) Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist) Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter) John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha) John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha) Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball) Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden) Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan) Naveen = Train (Black Cat) Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia) Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia) Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins) Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail) Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸: Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion) Snowhite = Saya (Blood+) Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry) Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Belle = Orihime (Bleach) Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen) Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone) Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist) Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus) Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha) Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball) Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden) Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece) Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece) Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan) Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat) Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia) Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins) Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail) Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
@@MPPG663You're probably right. I haven't seen too many people consider that they might've lived somewhere else. I feel like the neighbors weren't questioned enough about all this, they definitely know whether the parents lived there or not.
I can't stand to see my daughter even be sad, let alone physically hurt. This blows my entire mind. I'm 37 my mom wouldn't do this to me the same. I just don't understand. I'm horrified
@@amymckay23 It's kind of planning when it comes to things like this. For example, if I wanted to commit tax fraud and I planned on how I'd do it, it would be first degree premeditated. Hope this helps ❤
I’m a retired Augmentative Communication Speech Language Pathologist. I met a client who had been locked in from a stroke for a year. We were able to establish a yes and no the first day I met him. I will never forget his tears. Within a couple of days we had a spelling system. It was on my career highlights.
@@caittails Retired SLP here. There is NO SUCH THING as "just a SLPA". You guys are gold to the profession. You do so much work and have so much knowledge. And aren't paid nearly enough. Appreciate your skills, and hopefully you can someday earn the degree.
It's the small town thing and their place in it. It's not hard to have people feel like going to their home was inappropriate. They had no real friendships, it was all fake. Southerners are great at stopping to chit chat with people they actually hate.
Yes. That's what mystifies me the most. If they'd lived in the wilderness with no one around, or, conversely, in a city where no one paid attention to anyone, ever, for any reason, I could see them getting away with it. But all those years, and no one ever visited them? It's not conceivable.
There's an image of her. After she was removed from the couch. She looks like, and I mean this entirely without any disrespect to her, she looks so broken and flattened and discolored. There is absolutely no way that her parents weren't aware she needed something. Anything. They weren't "poor and couldn't get her care." They hid the state she was in. I sincerely think they hurt her. I think they hurt her and they kept her alive to avoid having to dispose of her. They kept her cared for enough to keep her alive and absolutely nothing else.
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy 🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵: Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion) Florian = Haji (Blood+) Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry) Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Adam = Ichigo (Bleach) Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen) Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone) Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist) Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter) John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha) John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha) Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball) Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden) Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan) Naveen = Train (Black Cat) Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia) Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia) Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins) Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail) Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸: Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion) Snowhite = Saya (Blood+) Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry) Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Belle = Orihime (Bleach) Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen) Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone) Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist) Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus) Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha) Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball) Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden) Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece) Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece) Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan) Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat) Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia) Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins) Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail) Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
My mother lost 5 pounds when I was in the hospital fighting for my life. My father ditched work to fly half way across the world, bringing me clothes because he prayed I would wake up. My mother helped my nurses change my position and wash me so I wouldn’t get infections. To those “parents.” You have no right to tell people who have almost or did lose their child that they are one and the same. How. Dare. You.
They got 40 years in prison and they did get 20 years before that but they decided to suspended it so they got 40 years in prison so they are definitely paying for what they did
I have two children with autism. They are happy living life their own way. Sure we do therapy so that it’s easier to function within society. But I hope they never lose their unique way of looking at the world.
As a fellow high functioning autistic women it causes me so many problems that neurotypical people don’t face. Also how about lower functioning autistic folks who have so many hardships caused by their autism? Autism isn’t a moral or personal failing but i don’t understand this point of view. Not trying to be rude at all just to be clear.
Just saw an update, the parents were sentenced to 20 and 40 years in jail, which in my opinion, is not nearly enough for the murder of this promising young woman.
As someone with ASD who suffered severe agoraphobia for 5 years, my ex in laws and my ex husband made sure I at least got out of bed every day and showered. They also cleaned my house because I couldn't. And that was my ex husband and his family! For parents to allow her to get in this condition is unforgivable. How can a parent let that happen to their child??? I didnt have locked in syndrome but I did have psychomotor retardation. If my mother had been alive during that long and nightmarish episode, she would have never let me lay there and rot into my bed. I was lucky to have people that cared enough to notice when i quit talking. These people were terrible and I hope theyre locked up for the rest of their lives.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school, followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
Doctor? Is living this way for so long even possible. I can't fathom that the human mind would even survive for even a few years, much less 12 years
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The fact that the parents didn't even bother to pull her top down when she was dead, is very disturbing to me. They called the doctor, he found her like that, they didn't felt shame, they didn't protect her dignity. Seems to me they had no compassion at all for her, they are so deprived of feelings towards them, so actively torturing seems very likely (it already is passive torturing).
One thing a Redditor said and stuck with me is: what if they thought she was possessed by a demon (since their religion believes in those things) and felt no compassion because they thought that’s not their daughter anymore?
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@@martafiord If they'd really think their child was possessed by a demon, they wouldn't go on enjoying their lives. They would'nt give the demon food or water to drink for 12 years, like it is a pet, they wouldn't ate their breakfast next to them, wouldn't take a nap next to her....Instead they would panic, they would call a bunch of priests, all kinds of help from the church, do a lot of drawn out rituals, etcetera. The basis for all religions is to love and not harm. My guess is these people are just hiding behind religion, putting up a facade. There's probably more evil and sadism in them than normal people can imagine. Don't forget, we only know the tip of the iceberg, we don't know what these parents have done in all those other years leading up to this death, and I don't even want to imagine. So either they are incredibly nice people, that are accommodating a demon in their house, for years like, mi case es su casa......or they are the worst parents ever, that will try to look like they are the innocent victim here
They were not possessed by demons. They were humans who chose to do an abominable, evil, inexcusable thing. They are culpable. There are no demons. Only evil people who cry 'demon' as a scapegoat, or an excuse, to absolve themselves, and stupid people who let them get away with it because they believe in demons.
Because certain legal factors have to be involved to qualify it as premeditated. That's how these things work. There's no such thing as perfect justice.
Likely part of it is while they may have had intent to harm and neglect, the court can’t prove that they had specific intent to kill. It’s possible that her death was only the product of their actions, not the goal. Absolutely does not vindicate them, but it can’t be categorized as first-degree because their “pre-meditation” doesn’t involve intent to kill (as far as we know). Probably. I’m not a legal professional.
@@_McCormickProductions It doesn't suck. The alternate is that people get charged wrongfully (more often than now) because nothing ever needs to be proven.
Did anyone find out WHY the couple did this???? I know they've been sentenced but I've looked for two hours and haven't found anything regarding a statement from them or any explanation on their part, other than "not wanting to be caaretakers". There is no way these two walked past, what is almost a rotting corpse that is their only daughter, every single day, and slept, ate, lounged about, with no given reason. I refuse to accept that.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
My mom worked for years as a caregiver for mentally disabled people. A lot of them would have their menstrual cycle and not want to change their pad. Some would not want to bathe. Some would defecate in their pants or diaper and not want to change. But the caregivers always found a way to get them to agree to be cleaned and for their clothes/underwear to be changed or to get in the a bath. It can be difficult but if you love someone or have any humanity you would find a way! This is heart breaking. There is no excuse for this behavior. Truly depraved
Yeah, my mom used to work in a nursing home. She works at homes with disabled people now, same thing as you said. I don't know how anyone could be so negligent to people who can't even shower on their own.
Sadly, not all people care that much :/ My grandma is in a memory care facility for dementia, and my mom has told me that she's gone upwards of two weeks without a shower. The nurses simply don't try to get her to shower, and my mom can't do it on her own. My mom is constantly asking the staff to do more than just ask "do you want a shower?", and some have straight up refused.
Lacy could not even move. Her parents lied. For whatever reason, they obviously also fed her her own feces since Lacy could not have moved to transfer the feces from her buttocks area to her face and mouth. These two people who were supposed to love and care for their child, physically and mentally abused her and their abuse resulted in her long horrible torturous death. Had she received proper care, she would never have had maggots eating holes in her body, never had all the horrible things happen to her body while she lay there helpless to do anything about it. With proper care, it is possible she may have responded and come out of her locked out condition and be alive today. This is one of the worst cases of murder I have ever heard of.
In nursing school, I did a clinical rotation in a sub acute unit- people in comas, on treacheostmy, my first day a nurse dropped the patients bed with a jolt. And was pretty rough with all the treatment. She told me " it's ok, these people can't hear, feel or know what you are doing" well, when do care I talk to the patient. I introduce myself, explain what care I'm doing, tell them the time of day and weather outside. I often relate the basic news of the day. You never know what that person, hears, sees or knows.
its so sad that i was born in 2010 and i keep thinking that through my whole life this poor girl was going through one of the worst situations imaginable she couldnt even move.
My brother was born in 2010 and i was thinking like while i saw him grow up there was this girl slowly rotting to death because of some so called parents i just feel sad for her
The parents are 💯 responsible for her death!! There is no justification possible for letting someone rot on a couch for 12 years and the fact that they tried to blame Lacey for it is absolutely disgusting. They are vile human beings, if you can even call them that. If they didn’t want to look after her, they could have at least have had her put in a medical facility. In my eyes this was the same as murder but worse.
THe only way I see this happening is she either had that disease where you cannot feel pain along with severe social anxiety. Or her parents kept on the couch for some odd reason. Why weren't any adult diapers put on her? This is just so effing sad and weird!
I’m absolutely disgusted and speechless. I myself am disabled and have been completely bed bound the past 11 years and my mom is my full time 24/7 caregiver. She does everything for me even when she has her own health issues and pain. Never once in the past 11 years has my mom ever ignored me or given up on me even when I’ve given up on myself. That is the love of a parent. I’m so horrified by Lacey’s situation and can’t even begin to imagine the amount of physical, mental, and emotion tortured, trauma, and pain she went through for 12+ years. They easily could’ve had a doctor or caretakers come to the house if they actually wanted to help her. This is so sickening. Edit: I’m so extremely thankful to have such an incredible mom. I’m beyond blessed that this caring and selfless woman is my mother and I’d be completely lost without her. The level of care she gives me and how much she advocates for me is truly above and beyond and I’m just so blessed. I know it can’t be easy to watch your child suffer since a young age and feel helpless with not being able to fix things. But even during the most difficult days and horrible surgeries and awful appointments etc she’s always there with me and there for me which helps so much. She’s my angel and even if I were given 20 lives I’d never be able to repay her for everything she’s done and does for me.
THIS!! I'm not FULLY bed bound, but for the past two years or so, I have been barely able to leave the bed, let alone the house. I had diabetes that had been developing for years and years and my doctors were completely neglectful. For 5 years I was told that I was fine and there was nothing wrong. The diabetes had probably been developing even further back, but I only started to see symptoms 5 years ago. So basically I was slowly getting sicker and sicker with no answers or help. And about 2 years ago is when it started to get bad and I couldn't function anymore. I was sleeping 15-18 hours a day, I was in excruciating pain and I couldn't even do simple things like brushing my teeth or showering. Eventually I FINALLY got diagnosed with diabetes. But by that point it was BAD. I had liver damage, kidney damage, and damage to my nervous system. My heart had become atrophied and deconditioned from years of being too tired and in too much pain to move. But throughout it all, I had my mom. She helps me do everything now, even though shes approaching 70 herself. She helps me shower, makes me meals every day, helps move my wheelchair in and out of the car, brings me to my appointments, everything. Parents are supposed to be there for you. To love you and protect you. Like you said, even if they felt unfit to care for all of her needs, I'm sure they could have hired a caretaker for her. I'm fairly certain insurance would have covered that for her. And if they didn't have insurance, there are definitely ways to get government help for that. This whole situation is completely fucking disgusting and there are zero excuses for it. On another note, I'm so sorry you've had to go through what you've gone through. Being bed bound is really really rough. So many people act like we're so lucky that we get to sit in bed all day, but it's horrible. I'm only 21. I'm stuck in bed watching all my friends grow up and start their lives. I hope things get better for your physically or at the very least that you're able to find ways to adapt and still live a fulfilling life. It is possible to live a happy and fulfilling life, no matter how disabled you are. I can only wonder what kind of life Lacey could have lived if only she'd had different parents.
I've seen this case previously & it is horrifying!! As an autistic person and mother of an autistic child, our ways of coping with the world can be hard for others to understand, watching Disney movies is still one of my comforts when the world is overwhelming and there are times when I need to isolate to regulate my emotions. I and many other autistic people have periods of time where we shut down and every day functions seem impossible, but a carer/parent will typically be able to assist us to manage our basic functions. Thank you so much for the way you have described autism, you are one of the few UA-camrs I've seen who truly understands us!!!
My mom worked in a nursing home in Germany where they specialized in “locked in” and comatosed patients. One lady was my mother’s hero. She could only blink but that didn’t slow her down from continuing to run her business. She had a computer hooked up to her eyelids that was created specifically for the patient. It would run the alphabet and numbers and this lady wrote entire business letters while being trapped in her body. Sadly she declined over about 2 years. The last letter my mom’s patient wrote was addressed to my mom, thanking her for her help and compassion. When she passed, it hit my mom hard and most had a big impact on my mom life. My mom still talk an about her patient to this day.
What an amazing women both the patient and your mother. I can't imagine the patience it would take to even blink a sentence letter by letter but to run a business, how impressive. For her last letter to be to your mom speaks volumes to the type of woman she is. Thanks for sharing!
your mother sounds like an angel. tell her random people on the internet think she's a superhero. if she's no longer with you, know that she was an absolute hero. I always thank nurses and doctors as well as ppl in the military etc. they do a job I never could and not bc I'm not intelligent enough - it's about strength. what a wonderful woman your mother is.
the fact that they walked past her everyday for 12 YEARS and saw the pain and conditions she was going through but still did absolutely nothing is disgusting. also they were able to pay to post bail but couldn’t get her the help she needed? there’s definitely something their not telling us
they were definitely abusing her prior to this abusive neglect. Idk why i get the feeling that they neglected her so badly because she was autistic. i’ve seen many cases where parents are abusive to their kids with similar circumstances because they’re not “normal” idky i get that vibe from them.
So a lot of times with bail, it’s not actual cash. It’s usually a home put up for collateral.. and then you’ll only pay 5% in cash to get out. Just helping everyone understand 😕
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy 🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵: Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion) Florian = Haji (Blood+) Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry) Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Adam = Ichigo (Bleach) Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen) Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone) Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist) Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter) John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha) John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha) Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball) Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden) Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan) Naveen = Train (Black Cat) Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia) Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia) Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins) Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail) Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸: Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion) Snowhite = Saya (Blood+) Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry) Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs) Belle = Orihime (Bleach) Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen) Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone) Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist) Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion) Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water) Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus) Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha) Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball) Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba) Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden) Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece) Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece) Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan) Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat) Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia) Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins) Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail) Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
They should be charged with torture as well, in my opinion. She was alive, having rotted away into that couch; alive enough to have had recently eaten something. Maggots kept her clean for 12 years, and she was alive enough to feel it. This girl was absolutely tortured, and I am so outraged that they aren't getting charged with more than 2nd degree murder.
Me too @liziuhh!!! Me too!!! I hate them and hope they suffer a million times worse than what they do to her!!!! RIP Lacey.... I'm so sorry baby girl!!!! I pray you're at peace now. ❤ ✝️ 🙏
If I even saw one maggot In my house, I'd lose my mind. But if they were crawling in and out of my daughters body?? The fuck!!?!? These parents are despicable.
True. I may not go well with children because of my anger issues that make me mad easily but, this is just sick and twisted.. how could parents do this to their children?!?
The fact that the police didn't IMMEDIATELY arrest the parents is freaking criminal. This whole thing is gut-wrenching and horrible. These people are MONSTERS who do not deserve even the most basic human kindness or consideration Even IF all the parents claims are true, it doesn't excuse the incredibly deplorable way she was treated
Yes. There's no way these people didn't know what they were doing. They knew, and they had years to gather up a modicum of humanity and help her. But they didn't.
I refuse to believe no one else in the town or the world knew this was going on. She was in their LIVING ROOM, not some hidden dungeon. How did the parents not smell?? This whole thing is so nefarious.
The living room thing is almost the wildest part, if she was in a bedroom that they just didnt go into I guess it would make a little bit more sense but its the living room... like did they just stop having guests over for 12 years? Did no one think that was odd? No house repairs, friends for dinner, nothing? And how could they have genuinely walked past her shitting and pissing and rotting into a melting couch every day.
@@buttercup_roach exactly!! Especially because they were so social and highly regarded in a VERY small town where everyone knows everybody’s business. They weren’t some shut-ins in a huge city where no one would notice that they smelled or behaved so oddly.
@@DiMagnolia "small" is a relative term. I have 5 different neighbors a couple meters away from my house in all sides and I couldn't tell them apart to save my life. And this crime happened in the US, and in a rural area to boot so we're talking about several tens if not hundreds of meters apart houses. It's natural that detection is impossible
@@yggreuyri5822 You know when an animal has been hit and is rotting by the side of the road and you drive by and the smell of death fills your car, even though you're like fifty feet away? That death smell is strong. It permeates everything. It HAD to have been in her parents' clothing, hair, everything.
I hate knowing that this all happened an hour away from me. My aunt and neighbor were good friends with Lacy's mom and neither of them knew that they had a daughter or any kids at all. One of my aunts neighbors were the ones who reported the smells. No one was allowed in their house because they would leave weeks at a time. Really sad thing to think about honestly. And again, really scary to think this all happened so close to home.
Hey, so, how did nobody notice the smell coming from them? If she was not getting up to use the toilet, after 1 year the smell would be unimaginable, and it would stick to their clothing and skin when they left the house. If someone is alive and decomposing, the smell is 10x as bad as the feces and urine, so when the parents left the house and would talk to people, how did they not notice how bad they reeked?
@zvezdoblyat i think they kept them selves clean enough not to smell. Or either they washed their clothes in a laundry mat. But I have no idea. Like I said my aunt knew them, not me
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away. We should forget them now as quick as possible that they even existed and never blame yourself again, there was nothing you could have done, they played their game well to the very end.
My algebra tutor was in her 50-s when her elderly mom became unable to move. This tiny-framed, thin woman was able to take care of her mom by herself for years. If the love of a child is strong, the love of the parents should be unimaginable. I will never believe that these two even TRIED to do something for poor Lacey. RIP
This happened a few.miles from me. Parents won't go to trial till late supper. Out on bond. How did they not see or smell. Please keep up to date. Thank you
As the mother of an autistic teen girl, I understand the depression and anxiety that Lacey may have been feeling. I am also a recovering agoraphobic. However, I don't care what my child says or how big of a fit they throw, if they sit somewhere without moving for over a day, I am calling 911, local mental hospitals, or anybody that can help. I will not stand by and slowly watch my child, or anyone, die when they can be helped.
They tortured her on purpose, starved her, pretended she no longer existed, clearly had no friends over and kept her secret. There is no way they can wipe her situation off on her mental health in any way. Something shifted in their relationship to her, perhaps she wanted to go away to college, or she wanted to tell the police about them, and they restrained her to the couch and abused her for years. They clearly stopped caring about her entirely and had only the intent left to hurt her. They're vicious, hateful, and couldn't have cared less whether she lived or died. I hope they go away for a long time.
@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 while they may not have intended for it to happen initially, 12 years is just too ridiculous to even be justifiable. Even 2 years is insane to think about per your example given. The human mind can think of something as normal and adapt to a situation quickly but what kind of situation like that could even be normalised? It is completely upto the people living with them to try their best to help them not just leave them there because as a loved one how can you not?
@tasnimanimanimaa and I'm not justifying it. They got 40 years, and that's good. I'm just saying we don't have to make up crazy fanfics about it - this is perfectly in the realm of possibility as a mental health issue and cognitive dissonance. Everyone failed this poor woman, not just her parents - they literally tried to get help from the doctor and were brushed of which would've sent them further into thinking this was normal and she'd get over it. Not to mention the "tight knit" community and noone went to check. The human mind can normalise anything, especially if it happens gradually. Go watch something about hoarding, animal hoarding in particular - where they genuinely believe they are helping and taking proper care of the animals, and yet are living in houses full of feaces and mould. The human mind can do that. People are not comprehending that she wasn't in that final condition for the full 12 years - that is not possible, you cannot survive that , it would've been a gradual decline in care.
Two adults could have lifted her and showered her. The could have designed special couches, massaged her and so many things. Home health and SS disability were available. So many thing s. They left so she would die. No these community leaders were not dumb just cruel.
I think when they left for vacation they premedicated her death FYI degrees of homicide are not uniform across states. Your explanations are thus not technically correct.
I lived in slaughter Louisiana in the early Covid years and my blood ran cold hearing this. I wish I could have found her, but there was no way for me to even know she existed. That’s the true terror
I just have a question, because it keeps popping up here... Did the Fletchers have visitors over much? They were such prominent figures in the town, and their daughter was just *there* in the living room, on the couch, how did nobody see? Surely for things such as Christmas or Thanksgiving, big things for small town, Christian folks like them, they would've had people over?
@@auronirahman2837I read from another comment that claimed they lived in that neighborhood, saying that the Fletcher parents would be at weeks gone from their home, but their aunt (who lived in the area) has reported the smell before.
I remember falling into depression. Not wanting to shower nor getting out of my bed unless it was to use toilet or eat. And it was my mom who knew it was wrong and trying to find an answer to what is happening to me and getting an appointment for me for with psychiatrist. She was the one who tried to get me out of the bed and talk me out of what I was doing and convince me to get help. My mom would never let that happen to me.
I've been in this rut of depression for a few weeks now. Your comment and this video are helping me get out of this asap, and I'm calling my therapist and psychiatrist today!!
Let us know how you’re doing after you go to your appointment! I’m a stranger but I’ve been there and I care about you! It does get better!!! @@RoLLUpAFat1
@@RoLLUpAFat1that’s amazing!!! I’m finally getting back into hygiene habits and I have hygiene ocd (meaning I have ocd but some of the worst of my ocd is directed towards extreme hygiene habits), so imagine how “disgusting” I feel when in depressive episodes when I can’t take care of myself. I’ve just gotta humanize it and celebrate every little victory, I’m so proud of you and I’m so proud of myself for being able to brush my teeth today.
All I want to say is if they actually cared about their daughter, she wouldn't be dead. She wouldn't have foam and feces in her stomach. She wouldn't have been eaten alive by maggots. They wouldn't have let their daughter be forgotten. When I suffered from a severe depression episode, my mom didn't know what to do but she refused to give up on me. She spent weeks trying to find out what to do and who to ask ontop of working plus taking care a household. But she never gave up and now I'm here, healthy and much happier. I'm forever grateful for her
Props to you AND mom in this situation. Beautiful sharre. Mental health IS health ~ I'm glad you have support. It's so scary to go through these things alone
Exactly. I can’t fathom how can a mother do this to her child. She was vacationing when Lacey was suffering . Not even a single person cared about her. I mean she was in the living room, I bet people would’ve known. 👀
Exactly, im autistic with agorophobia but if i started soiling myself, you can bet anything my mom would start putting diapers on me & changing me,.. just like i do for my autistic son & will for as long as he needs me to,.. also, they stayed active in their community, they didnt even seem overwhelmed by it…
After my Grandaddy had a stroke, he'd often sit there just staring off into the distance. One trip I made back home I was sitting there with him at the dinner table and my stepmom and another of her nurse friends was just talking about him right there while he was spacing out. He looked me dead in the eyes and said, "You know, they talk about me like I'm not here." After the initial shock, I asked him what he wanted to talk about, he said "Hell, I dunno anymore." I'll never get over that thought as long as I live.
I’m so sad to hear that. I can not imagine doing that. He’s still a man. A man that raised a family, he’s a dad, a husband and a human being. Sometimes people are just very unaware, unfortunately. My mother in law had Alzheimer’s. It was very early onset. Our youngest son would always want to help her walk, eat, everything. He was very young, but he was so attentive and kind. My mom helped care for her on and off for a few years. She would have a wonderful time taking her places and making everything special for her. Her husband was so heartbroken. It was so sad, but she had the best care possible. Her husband took her on many trips all over before she became unable. He wanted to do everything she had ever wanted to do knowing that they didn’t have very much time for it. My aunt recently passed and she had Alzheimer’s as well. I still traveled out of state and spent a lot of time with her. I was blessed to be able to make her laugh and we spent hours just sitting together on the front porch chatting (as much as she could ) and we were like two high school girl friends joking and talking. It was wonderful. I’m so grateful for the time I had with her. Thank you for your comment because we need to remember that we must treat others with kindness and be aware. Thank you. 💗
I love the way she talked about autism, it was so polite and showed the range of the spectrum, as an autistic person and someone with autistic friends it was so refreshing to hear
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
And the fact that they still lied about their crimes?? they probably fed her sofa foam and her own feces because of their sick and sadistic kink. Like who tf would leave their OWN daughter to rot in the sofa and sleep, eat and walk in the same house like it’s normal?
Could you describe the photo? Im a morbidly curious person but its nighttime and i know that image would be stuck in my head for weeks. @@lizzeyflower
@sairahilario it's her nude but don't see her face cuz she lay on belly. Her buns are not shown. I have seen plenty of graphic things from others to know what looks like. All you see how thin she looks and how her back was pale and little purple. Her hair just looked light brown. One nasty knot on her. That looks it had poop that can see om the edges. I don't blame not wanted to see you can't unsee what these monsters did. How could anyone do this to her. I was crying badly it hard to explain why.
@@lizzeyflower Thank you very much. I'm glad i read this after sleeping because now i cant get the image out my head. That's horrifying and i can't imagine the pain of being stuck there, let alone being stuck there for 12 years.
What I’m thinking is that she faced abuse in the home due to her autism and suffered a trauma so severe it made her catatonic. It couldn’t be locked in syndrome since she moved herself in order to eat the couch cushioning.
It's possible they force fed her pieces of the cushion themselves, but your theory about her not having locked in syndrome sounds very likely considering there were claw marks on the sofa, which means that the poor girl probably tried to get up from the couch but was unable to for some reason.
@@Noa_Lynnhow though? She wouldn’t have been able to swallow if she had LIS, so they would have had to somehow push the cushion all the way to her stomach.
As a parent, I could never let my child get anywhere near what happened to Lacey. I feel like a bad mom if my kid has a completely normal diaper rash, I can't bear to see her hurting. She doesn't have to tell me she's hurting, I see it when I look at her if she is. No excuses for these sad excuses of humans
I lived in the surrounding area of Slaughter for 30+ years and honestly I believe that they were ashamed of her disability and took her out of society because they were so popular in their community and tortured her for being different and I don’t take SA out of the equation 😢
I once cry because my baby had a very bad diaper rash due to acidic diarrhea due to antibiotics 😭 I had no choice because he had an infection and I regularly change his nappies but it still happen. I totally get you Mama. And I feel horrified hearing this case I was about to vomit when she was telling it 😱
@@kellymcclendon2162 as someone who spent their early childhood in the south, it’s very sad to me that I see this as the most likely explanation. So many of these towns where reputation is everything completely disregard the safety and needs of the vulnerable for the sake of what their neighbors think of them.
@@knnorman3855 My mom had a similar problem, but we later discovered that it is actually due to acidic foods. The simple explanation is that my body is naturally acidic, so eating acidic foods pushed my body over that limit and essentially gives me UTI symptoms. I thought I would mention it just in case it could be something you would want to observe or look into for you child.
I agree 1,000,000%! A diaper rash, stubbed, toe, splinter, whatever, you’re just there for your baby no matter how old your baby is. What monsters. What absolutely horrifically sick monsters.
Shocked ‘RN’ isn’t at the end of your username which so many US nurses do. Its drives me nuts, there are millions of nurses around the world, but only US nurses seem to always want to add RN in their username. If they only knew how other nationality nurses laugh at them for doing this 🤦🏻♀️ Good on you for not doing that. Makes a pleasant change. 👍
Both of Lacey’s parents had jobs responsible jobs that made them well-known in the community. They didn’t take Lacey in for medical assistance because they’d hoped she’d die quickly, but when she held on and started withering away, they knew they’d be held criminally responsible for letting her get to this state.
She was a fighter. And the fact she lasted as long as she did shows just how strong her spirit is. If she suffered from agoraphobia or any mental disorder that caused this situation to occur, she would've died a long time ago. This is someone who is fighting for her life and consciously deciding everyday to not give up. And it angers me that people see her as the perp and not the victim. We have lost our humanity to see this as anything but murder.
My husband has COPD, and 3 times he was put on a ventilator. I never left his side. I would be the one who bathed him, brushed his teeth and washed his face, shaved him, helped change his sheets. Even when he poo'ed, I was the one who cleaned him. I wanted him to have his dignity. Even though he was in a medically induced coma, I wanted him to know I was there. I would read to him and talk with him even though he couldn't talk back. Thankfully he is doing ok now and he's still with me.
Once Lacey started showing signs of not wanting to get up or not being able to, her parents should have picked her up, put her in the car, and taken her to the ER. Even if she didnt have insurance, they would have given her care. And if she needed to be in a facility, all they had to do was apply for government insurance to cover it. I used to work in group homes with people who had disabilities. Their insurance was paying for it. These monsters neglected their child. I dont care if she had a mental issue causing her to stay in one spot, her parents have eyes. They can see something isnt right and she needs help. No excuses for this. They failed her. They need to be locked away until they have to leave in pine boxes. Sickening. If either of my kids are acting off and I feel its a medical issue, I take them to the doctor, urgent care, or the ER. Its not difficult to do, especially for parents who have the means to provide care. I assume they had at least one car. And if there is an issue with that, you can call for an ambulance. And if they didnt want to do that, then ask someone in the community. Small town equals small town mentality. Neighbors help neighbors. These are a disgusting excuse for parents and a horrible excuse for humans.
They did this to her on purpose. I don't think she had locked in syndrome either.She wouldn't of been able to eat couch foam. I think she was too weak,scared,in pain,& fused to the couch and couldn't move because of it. They did this to her by choice:(
Right. The hospital would’ve still seen her and just billed her later if she didn’t have insurance. But she def could’ve gotten free government insurance based on the fact she had a disability. It’s so sad 😢
The thing that absolutely gets me fucked up is that they would have smelled her rotting in her feces all those years in their living room. No one mentions this and it drives me nuts, but they were ABSOLUTELY intentionally punishing her for her "laziness." They endured the smell of feces and rotting flesh so that she would have to as well. You can tell by what they said about her, too.
I just cannot understand how you could go about your daily life, walking past her every day, and do nothing. I would even understand putting her out of her misery and burying her in the backyard before this. It is the most insidious, sadistic thing I can imagine. It goes beyond neglect. Investigators, people whose entire job comprises of witnessing some of the worst tragedies, stated they couldn’t eat or sleep due to the mental distress of seeing what state Lacey ‘lived’ in. Clay and Shiela are inconceivably evil.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school, followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
This case makes me sick to my stomach. There’s no excuse. It was blatant torture. If we saw someone suffering like Lacy even if it’s a total stranger, it’s in human nature to want to help, let alone your literal child!! And for 12 years??! It’s obvious they wanted her to suffer. I hope they get the heaviest sentence, RIP Lacy😢
Tbh, I can easily see my mum being capable of doing that to me. My dad would never dare to stand up to her, he gets ab*sed daily by her for the smallest things.
I fell sick to my stomach HOW COULD THESE TERRIBLE HUMAN BEINGS. Let their child to rot visibly for 12 YEARS. Then accuse their child of being lazy and still walking on grass have a roof.. Im sick. I have lost my appetite
When I was 16 I developed agoraphobia, and I was really lucky because my parents forced me out of the house kicking and screaming thinking I was going to die. They rushed me to the local behavioral hospital where we found out that it developed because I was having extreme anxiety and panic disorder. at the time this was considered a “new concept” that teenagers could have anxiety disorder not just adults. It breaks my heart that Lacey’s parents didn’t do more for her.
They left her there even when she was rotting but still alive. Not to mention going on vacations. Those people are demons and left her there on purpose
i had severe agoraphobia too and i was unable to go out, i was put on serotonin which helped me a lot and i’m completely cured today (and now i looove social interaction!!)
I have extreme social phobia , I am afraid of people but also open spaces , its very hard but you have to force yourself to go out at least once a day , I have very good psychatrist and therapeut who help me with that , i spend at least 3 hours a day outside no matter how hard it is , I dont go to places where there are a lot of people but i at least walk in forrest and in the beach
As someone who has extreme depression, OCD, and ADHD/*possible* autism, when I started not taking care of myself, and my room became a literal garbage dumpster, when my mom walked into my room and saw the state of it her first thought was to immediately help me clean it. She isn't perfect, it took several years after that to get the help I needed, but I will always remember my mom washing the clothes that had been seeping on the floor for months, helping me throw away the rotting, moldy, and hazardous garbage. She washed my sheets, she taught me how to properly vacuum up carpet that hadn't been done in months. She helped me reorganize my closet. I hadn't seen the floor in like a year. It was amazing. Those parents deserve everything they get. I hope they rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
The fact, to me anyway, that Lacy had bedsores and all these complications for so long, says to me she actually had a lot of will to live. She held on for over a decade probably waiting for love or help. I'm crying so much rn. Please God may she finally rest in peace.
My first thought when i heard about Lacey’s death was that her parents were trying to cover up a nefarious secret like sexual assault. Especially now that you’ve mentioned all the resources their town has i’m sure they would have had district nurses or home help who would have made daily visits to their home to help care for her from the very beginning. I also think given the town is so small, following Lacey’s parents visit to Dr Bickham he should have made a house call to address their “concerns” and check on Lacey’s wellbeing or at least send another health professional to follow up on it. Why did nothing ever come of that?!
I thought the same thing regarding Bickham. Didn't he ever hear of "wellness checks". They are done in person at the residence of the person being checked on. Lacey was definitely not well and needed treatment. At least social services should have been notified. The parents social and political status probably stopped others from doing their due diligence. Their "get out of jail" free card is now expired along with poor Lacey. If there is any justice, they will be spending the rest of their miserable lives in prison, provided some parent inmate doesn't help them out of prison the hard way. -dave
The Fletchers pled guilty to manslaughter! Prosecutors want the maximum that can give. My dad called me at work to tell me yesterday! We were sure they would get off! We are glad they aren’t getting off completely! Most of us in Slaughter figured with their connections they would walk away from this!
@@justbreathefool There is always the chance of getting out on parole. I’m not sure how they determine when they are eligible for parole. I would hope they serve the whole thing.
I've witnessed bed sores with my bed ridden grandma and an uncle. It broke my heart seeing the wound and I cried almost everytime I had to clean her wound. Thank you for spreading the awareness❤
As someone with autism, I really appreciate you linking all of these resources. Lacey didn’t deserve any of this. It’s so awful her life was taken like this. Thanks For covering this case with such empathy Steph ❤
@NotVille_ Why u spamming? could u at least dedicate ur time for something better than spamming and trolling unless if ur a bot. Edit: if u are a bot I hope UA-cam terminates and bans your account.
@NotVille_ funny how you feel the need to prove your channel by attacking a UA-camr who is doing well for themselves. Sounds kinda like jealousy if you ask me
Once had a patient who apparently because of anger with his wife, refused to get off the couch. Was there for several years before he was eventually removed and brought to the hospital. The fabric was a plaid synthetic material and had fused to parts of his skin. His back was also covered with a nasty mold. With extensive wound care and skin care he did actually recover. He was severely obese when admitted. About 18 months later he walked out the door.. no longer even overweight and healthy skin. The smell was absolutely horrendous. We'd have to put globs of Vick's salve inside our masks to keep from vomiting from the smell he had when attempting to treat the mold and bed sores.
I have a comment here. I have a muscle autoimmune disease. Most people aren't diagnosed until they end up in a wheel chair. I was called lazy so many times. I actually collapsed one day on a couch and I couldn't get up. When I finally screamed that I needed to go to the ER (I was being called lazy and stupid before I started screaming) my muscles were being damaged so badly I ended up with rhabdomyolysis (body was killing muscles instead of healing them as simple as I can put it). I was tested for drugs, stds, and heavy metal poisoning before being tested for an autoimmune. At 39 I still have problems getting off the floor. The entire time leading up to this episode I kept getting more and more weak. I was still in contact with my friends, I was still going out, until one day I just physically couldn't.
I'm so sorry no one believed you. I've been there. I have fibromyalsa but no where near what you went through. I pray you have ppl loving and helping you. 😊
I'm so sorry, I was accused of the worst things too because of musculoskeletal conditions and you never forget people who treated you as if you were just lazy or wanted drugs so you could have some relief from the nonstop pain. I still don't talk to my sister, instead of trying to help or believing me, she tried to have my sons taken from me. And when I was totally vindicated, I now have 16 screws in my back, and am disabled, she acted like she didn't try to ruin my life or kick me when I was down. She acts like I'm the unreasonable one for not talking to her now. I believe in Karma, as soon as her daughters were able, they moved out, one went thousands of miles away. She was made to get rid of her baby at 16 that she wanted so my sister wouldn't look like a bad mother. That's after my sister left her 15 yr old daughters bf sleep over. 🙄 I cannot stand a hypocrite. But worse, forcing your child to get rid of her own child, my sister's grandchild, to save face, when her daughter very much wanted the child and so did the bf. I want grandkids so bad, I would have taken care of it or left my niece move in with me and keep it. No one in the family would have given her grief. We would have loved that baby like any baby. So the only reason was because in her mind, people would think she was a bad mother for allowing the bf to sleep over. And I guess the girls dad wouldn't have been happy at all but she pushed him out, lied and said he was abusive. I will stop but yeah, she's always been the kind to never take responsibility when she can blame someone else. She's 55 and still blames others for her own actions. I hope you have all the help and support you need. ❤
I have a reoccurring nightmare where my legs suddenly stop working and I can’t walk anymore and the people around me think I’m just being dramatic. My muscles continue to get weaker to where I can’t even hold a pencil. Your real life affliction is my literal nightmare. I am so incredibly sorry. My heart goes out to you. I am sending as much hope and positivity your way as I can.
As an inpatient hospitalist medical provider, I just wanted to commend you on your research and dedication to anatomical/medical accuracy.. so far I have absolutely loved ( and particularly enjoy the format of) everything rotten mango puts out.. as a medical provider it’s so incredible to hear your perspective (and particularly in retrospect) with accurate and appropriate terminology, etc. but ultimately my favorite thing about your platform is that it is 100% for the betterment of all of us. so not only can I learn to be a better medical provider from listening to your podcast, but I can also learn to be a better advocate for survivors and whether intentionally or unintentionally, I can learn to maybe, possibly, hopefully survive scenarios I could never anticipate. Please never stop, you are the type of platform that will change the world .
The fact that she had maggots, had parts of the cushion in her stomach, was fused to the couch. She was literally rotting from the inside out. And yet they didn't smell her, didn't care as they took pictures of the Christmas tree as Lacey was there. The whole time. It's mind boggling.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
Lacey living like that for 12 years is unimaginable. My soul is screaming hearing this story. The smell of rotting flesh.... unless you've smelt it, you don't understand. There's no way this was manslaughter. Manslaughter is pushing someone into a pool and they die from like hitting their head or drowning. You had no intention of killing them, but you were aware what you were doing was potentially dangerous. I can't imagine, as a human being, how you walk past someone covered in feces and maggots, and just ignore it. Let alone that it's my child and she's sitting there practically naked. I can't wrap my head around this. I have dealt with plenty of difficult patients. Ones so bad, you had to layer up because they would throw poop at you. We still got them cleaned up. There's absolutely no excuse for this. My blood is boiling.....
I can't even. My skin crawls every time I hear about this horrible case. And wouldn't everything in that house be tainted with the smell? I can't imagine the parents leaving the house and their clothes not having a stench on them. How people didn't notice is just sad. My sister was a nurse when I was around 12 years old, I used to go hang out with her on a weekend or for a week or 2 when school was out for summer. She worked in a nursing home and had a crazy schedule when it came to her shifts, so sometimes she take me along, if she was on nights...I liked visiting with some of those nice old people, some had no families or anything so I'd do that while she did her nursing thing. I'd help her turn people in their beds, so she could clean them up and I couldn't imagine letting anyone sit in that mess for an hour, never mind years. And yes, there were difficult patients there, too. But those are everywhere.
I agree my friend. This is heartbreaking. Those parents are nothing short of evil. I couldn't imagine in my wildest nightmare watching my baby girl in such a horrible condition. Bullshit they were feeding her. Absolutely abhorrent
@6Haunted-Days There were no commentaries addressing time period hearing about this case. Who cares when? Is there some award I'm not aware of deeming people the first to sit on yt all day to initially hear a case? How sophomoric.
Agree! This is first degree murder!!! They weren't even talking about her... Nobody will just sit in an uncomfortable position like that because they choose too and if a person is bedridden it is a parents or a caretakers job to move their body every 2 hours, it is a lot of work but when you truely love someone you won't be able to watch them decay... This is so extremely sad, they could've put her in the system, asked any of the relatives or even the neighbours to take care of her, my parents would've taken care of her FOR FREE! Her parents aren't human, they are just monsters 😢
I've heard of this case before. The fear she felt must've been excruciating, can't ever imagine being neglected for 12 years and not being able to do anything about it til it's too late.
@NotVille_dude, YOU CAN’T even put effort into A COMMENT..LOL who are you to judge and troll.. what a joke.. but seriously you are one of these clearly deranged people.. ..
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
On the feces part of it, there is an extreme case called rectal vomiting, where, essentially your intestines get so backed up with feces that you throw it up or your intestines are so inflamed that you throw up feces, and if it was in her ears, and not her nose that means that it was either so bad that it shot straight past her sinuses, or it was so hard from the lack of water that it was just pushing into her ears.
@@pepojordan73 she was either eating it or it fused with her organs as her back flesh started to melt. Im not saying she didnt eat her own feces im just saying if she did she prolly also had rectal vomiting explaining it being in her ears. Bc eating shit would prolly give u rectal vomiting
another thing to think about: she was 36 when she died, meaning she was around 24 when she first sat on that couch, give or take a few years. the parents have no excuse of “she’s a lazy teenager.” it had been five whole years since she was numerically a teenager (19) and seven years since she was - in my opinion - a “true” teenager (17). they had to have known something was up.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
I'm autistic, and I just wanted to say: 1. Thank you so, so much for being so respectful with what terms you use (I rarely see people use the term "high or low support needs" outside of my own therapist) and how you addressed what autistic people had to deal with, as well as how it's absolute bullshit that people tried to pin so much on the fact Lacey was autistic 2. I think there were a couple reasons why the media kept bringing it up. They probably wanted to use autism as a sort of buzzword and further sensationalize the case, for one. Additionally, I think they wanted to pin a lot of it on the autism to further villanize ASD (listen, ASD sucks ass, but to treat it like it's this sort of killer disease is so fucking frustrating), or maybe even make it seem like the parents weren't necessarily to blame, because I've unfortunately seen a few true crime cases where parents will "mercy kill" or attempt to "mercy kill" their autistic kids, and part of the public sides with the parents. Either way, it's because they don't see autistic people as human 3. Obviously not every autistic person is alike, but I know that as far as myself as well as my autistic friends, we are RIDICULOUSLY fidgety and find it so hard to stay completely still for long periods of time. Even if we're having a panic attack, we'll often do self soothing behavior like rocking back and forth or rubbing our arms. I'm calling bullshit on her autism being to blame for why she stayed put.
Oh 100% on 2, ASD is always used to almost justify the things that happen to us autistic people. Bc we're not seen as part of society, we're not even seen as complete/fulfilled human beings by many so we 'deserve' to be treated as lesser or we just ask for it by behaving 'weird'. It's also used as an excuse to silence us (bc we supposedly could never know what's best for ourselves or what we need) and paint our words as untrustworthy, putting us at an even higher risk of abuse/neglect. Media's demonisations of ASD and other disorders like OCD, BPD or schizophrenia etc always result in more harm to the people who are already struggling to get help or just trying to live life.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
Almost wish she didn’t have the maggots. Maybe without the maggots eating away the dead flesh, she would have developed sepsis much earlier and it would have saved her from 12-15 years of torture. I cannot fathom how this much evil was able to occur. I am so sorry Lacey.
@@SjofnBM1989 okay but clearly that already happened. So with common sense, the next thing to wish for is for her suffering to not last more than a decade. Obviously we would all wish for her to never be abused and neglected.
I’m hoping that she just disassociated from the situation and couldn’t remember or process new information. Since we don’t know what happened to her mentally, that could’ve been the case. 😢
So you're telling me no one literally NO ONE visited their house in those 12 years??? And that's a town where everyone's so close and shit?? Lacey wasn't even 'stuck' in her bedroom, it was literally THE LIVING ROOM!!! Nothing makes sense!!
exactly that's what i've been thinking too there aint no way no one visited the house for a damn moment in the 12 years and no even smelled anything wrong? and suddenly there was just one neighbour who saw lacey in the couch through the window after literally like her death?? and nothing happened for 12 years to even know the existence of poor lacey?
@@jasiperroni1421Did you see the sofa photos? She melted into it? The sofa finally gave way from being used as a 24 hour prison cell and bathroom for the lady who was never moved. 12 years of lying in one spot caused maggots to live inside her horrific wounds. No, they didn't have friends over!
@@jacquelynskye295That's horrifying that's what I wonder too why didn't any family or anybody check up on this girl. Seems like I'm just not understanding why they even had a child to begin with or why they even raised her because they are horrific people
I'm less than a third of the way through this but I'm already confused about how a couple / family could be "well respected in the community" yet never have anyone over to their living room. It makes me wonder what I'm missing. Were there other community members who were complicit? Did the Fletchers have some air of unapproachability? Did they socialize exclusively in shared spaces like church halls or event centers?
How did she survive like this for so many years? I would have imagined she could have had the infection travel to her blood stream and caused sepsis within days, maybe months but years? This is the worst case of torture I have ever heard. 😭
It was literally hell on earth for her. I can’t even understand what would compel someone to do this to any human or ANIMAL let alone your only child. They are true sadists and I agree, with you 100%
Might have had something to do with the Maggots? They eat away all the dead and infectious tissues, perhaps they were actually cleaning her wounds so that maybe stopped her getting infections? Until the very end. I think the woman in the video did say at the end that Lacey had an infection. I can’t remember.
how do you see literal BONES coming out of someone and NOT think to take them to a doctor/call a doctor over? Her parents are absolutely responsible and I hope Lacey gets to play sports and move in peace
Locked in syndrome scares the shit out of me. Sometimes i get sleep paralysis and cant move or talk. To be trapped like that for a long period of time would be hellish.
I mean, for a community that small and tight-knit how did nobody ever not go to their house and see her for twelve years when the parents were such prominent figures? It's so crazy to me...
I’ve been around decaying bodies, the smell sticks in your clothes, your hair, everything. It’s hard to believe that the so-called parents wouldn’t have a stench on them. Even while she was still alive there sadly would have been an undeniable smell. This case makes me so angry, there’s zero excuse for what happened to Lacey.
Exactly, it's so foul idk how neighbors didn't smell this. I'm a disabled RN and I had patients with gangrene, I could smell it before I even knocked on the door, when I did home health. It's just not something you can describe to others who haven't smelled it. If you ever smelled a dying, or dead decaying animal, that would be close, but not exact. I think human decay smells worse. Poor Lacey, there's no punishment to equal that heII.
@@britzel71 Exactly, and the doctor, when her parents informed him that she was no longer leaving the couch... Why didn't he go check on her and/or call an ambulance for her? Why isn't he being charged with medical neglect or something? If he knew she was stuck on the couch and did nothing about it, then he's culpable as well. (edit) I'm so appalled at all of them. Wtf is wrong with these people?
A client of mine had an brain aneurysm after giving birth. She could hear everything and the doctor said “she’d be a vegetable” she thought she’d prove him wrong. She’s living well as a successful children’s author.
My bffs grandmother was a locked in patient for many many years! She had her a tv, audio books, music, etc with full time care at home, the nurses were always nice, song to her and she was always surrounded by loved one but it still messed me up pretty badly. i always had sleep paralysis as kid (still do but its rare) and it felt like everytime i saw how completely helpless she was, I just felt helpless for her like i needed to do something but i couldn't. I felt like i was in the panic of sleep paralysis again. I couldnt stop imagining what it must be like.
Thank you for representing autism in such a kind and empathetic manner. Me and my brother are autistic and should be viewed just as capable of full and fulfilling lives like everyone else because we definitely are. Accommodations and education are so very important for autistic and neurodivergent people.
I got in trouble at work for taking aside an autistic person and telling them that they did have to try being on time. If it helps you be on time I'll message you as you adjust your routine. I got written up for harassment by a co-worker who isn't neurodivergent. I privately messaged them anyway until they told me that got the routine down.
TW: Gross TMI At the end of 2022 I developed an abscess. Antibiotics didn't work & I eventually became septic & necrotic. It ended up being a wound the depth & diameter of my fist (Rushed to hospital & emergency surgery etc mere hours from death) It took my poor parents several days whilst I was hospitalised, to air the smell of that necrosis out of the flat. It stuck in our noses for a while. It was by far the worst thing any of us have ever smelt to this day. And... Just a wound of that size, dead, black flesh sloughing off in my hands was one of the most painful experiences of my life. My heart breaks for this poor girl. Horrific.
@@ParanoidAndroid89so glad ur doing better! So sorry this happened to you.. s/o to your parents for taking care of you! Wish this lovely young lady got the same treatment but sadly we know how her story ends 🥺
@@dabest444u Thank you 🖤 My parents are incredible. I have a lot of issues that render me incapable of taking care of myself like a normal 35 Y/O & they go far beyond what should ever be expected of them to make my life comfortable. I appreciate them more than words can express. I can't imagine how much pain she must have been in, both mentally & physically & the knowledge that her "parents" completely neglected her is completely heartbreaking. It's amazing that she survived as long as she did but somehow that makes it feel even worse to think about the insane level of agony she must have been in with massive, festering & necrotising wounds & it probably goes to show just how long she was in this state considering that they were living normally amongst what is a POTENT smell. They clearly became nose blind to it. These scumbags deserve to experience exactly what they let their daughter endure for so long. It's sickening.
😮😮😮 Necrosis is too scary and painful. I didn't know that an abscess would lead to necrosis. Can you tell me how to prevent it? because recently my sister developed an abscess which was drained and antibiotics were administered to her orally and topically. It did subside but she has developed another abscess. I'm worried it might turn necrotic. Can you give any advice?
The story you tell of locked in syndrome makes me realize how important it is for me as a healthcare worker to be even more mindful than i currently am of how important it is to talk to the patients. Im going to be a CNA and my goal is to work in a hospital. I've been working in a nursing home for over a year now and really do try to always tell the patient what im doing so that i dont startle anyone while doing more intimate care. I always try to think of how i would want to be treated if i had dementia for example. It must feel horrible and like constant assault to not know what is happening.
@@keropi193 this really made my day today, Thank you ❤️. I try to always think of how we need to treat other like we would want to be treated if put in a similar (often vulnerable) situation. Unfortunately that is not always common sense to all people in the medical field
My mom suffered from being locked in from a stroke for about a year. She still can’t speak , but I always wonder what she was thinking about, what she had to say, what she remembered from all of this. I can’t wait to hear hear response to all of this one day soon. Hearing you go in detail sheds light on what she’s probably thinking.
I was genuinely dreading watching another video with an autistic victim, but you went above and beyond with your empathy and explanations. You've actually gone out of your way to learn all the preferred terms and real autistic history and it is wonderful. Thank you so much, Stephanie.
as opposed to... non-genuinely? why even tell us if you're being genuine or not? does that mean you normally are not genuine, but make an exception and have to tell us when you are?
@@housemana it's used for emphasis, similar to the word literally. if you google the definition of genuinely, the first definition is "truthfully" but the second is "to the fullest degree." this person left a really thoughtful comment highlighting the importance of empathetic and well-researched autism representation, and you *genuinely* chose to focus on a word that wasn't even used incorrectly?
My gut feeling is that her anxiety was the reason she was pulled out of school. But then her parents slowly stopped caring for her. They slowly withdrew from playing “parents” and barely met her base needs. Over time she just became a job. Like putting seed in the birdcage. It’s heartbreaking. Her parents deserve to be prosecuted. They failed her terribly.
I guess there was also a stage when they knew if they took her to a doctor they would be held accountable for (child) neglect. Lacy became a threat to their treasured role in the community.
I think behavioral issues or anxiety were involved in sequestering her yes. But what think happened is the father (or mother or both) sexually abused her. They probably kept her there hoping she would be too ill or mentally ruined to report. Or maybe they were hoping her autism coupled with PTSD and anxiety and depression would become so severe to lead her to be incapable of reporting. This conservative Republican Christian father probably SAed her. The only food she could have was probably earned through sex acts. When she got too dirty/repulsive they probably did tie her up or torture her in any other way you can think. The mom probably purposefully denied the truth or physically/emotionally tortured the girl for “taking her husband.” The way conservative Republican Christian women can go in a patriarchal system can cause the victim blaming to be so extreme she probably called her daughter a whore and punished her. When this young woman was still bedbound and unable to stand for all we know they even prostituted her.
@@katjathefranknfurter2374The thing is, when she started going downhill ( she wasnt too bad before, neighbours saw her outside occasionally etc) why did they just give up. Too tight to pay for at home carers who would make sure at least she washed & ate, while they looked at permanent care in a facility because they werent coping? Many people have severely disabled children at home but it doesnt come to this. In the UK you can get respite care where the person go to a unit for a few days when you reach burnout or if you cant cope.
She was so beautiful. My daughter has autism, it is a part of the amazing person she is. All we see is an amazing girl who makes everyday better. She doesn't like people to be upset . She smiles and sings so she shines ✨️ and it is contagious.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
I am a nurse in the neuro stepdown unit at the Cleveland Clinic. Though locked in is very rare I have quite a bit of experience with it. In a neuro unit, we are expected to do neuro exams multiple times a shift, sometimes even hourly. If you are properly accommodating for your patient, It only takes one good neuro exam to figure out if your patient is locked in (though technically I cannot diagnose it). It is often missed by nurses and doctors alike. I distinctly remember my first locked in case, because I was the one to first suspect the patient was locked in. Even with severe full body paralysis, eye movement is usually preserved for anatomical reasons I won't get into. In this patients case, I had to hold her eyes open and then ask her to do things with her eyes. First it was just look to the left, look to the right, but I was shocked and horrified to find that as I made the commands more and more complex, she still was able to follow. Even among neuro specialists it can be hard to remember to treat this population as competent. My rule of thumb is to always treat the patients as competent, even if I am sure they are not. Why not sing to them, tell them stories, tell them about the weather, the news, or even juicy gossip? If they appreciate it, I am sure they extremely appreciate it. And if they can't hear it, that doesn't hurt anything. Reach out if you ever find need for a neuro nurse's knowledge and perspective!
Is there anything you are supposed to do if this happens to you? If you can still move your eyes or blink, is there anything you can do to signal to doctors and nurses that you’re locked in or do you just have to wait and hope they test for it?
@@jessicaahhhhh As a patient with locked in syndrome can do nothing but move their eyes, they are pretty much at the mercy of caregivers. Since neuro exams would likely be a part of the treatment plan if anything traumatic happened to the brain, it seems unlikely that the condition would not be diagnosed eventually. Pretty horrific to think about, though.
An article that was posted yesterday says “The Fletchers’ defense team said the couple cared for their daughter and did not intend to hurt her.” How tf are they physically able to say that?!! I quite literally hope they rot in jail
i read an article about her just now and there are people sympathizing with her parents and excusing their behavior when they are the literal spawns of satan. they left her for 12 YEARS!!!! she could not physically MOVE and they knew this. she was found with covid when she died which means she was exposed to other humans and nobody helped her. it’s so so wicked. rest in peace Lacey, you deserved a much better life. it’s just not fair
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
My father had this happen to him after a stroke and glioblastoma cancer. He was 'trapped" for 8 months. He got progressively worse and worse. He could not talk and near the end he could not even move. He went from a talkative person to just a shell. This was 13 years ago. I loved him so much and it was a mercy when he passed.
My mother is a retired RN, she used to say that you never know if a patient who is in a coma can hear you or not. So she'd always talk to them, tell them what you need to do before you touch them, get their family to bring in their favourite music, audio books, put the radio on. Encourage the family and friends to talk to them. Never, ever discuss their treatment as if they aren't there.
YOUR MOTHER IS AN AMAZING SOUL , i like to believe that people in coma's can still hear you somehow some way. 🙏
In my first clinical practice as a student nurse, there was a man who had recently gone palliative and had become unresponsive. My group was brought in to see some of the physical changes that were happening. It just felt so natural, to hold his hand while my instructor spoke. I know he was grateful for the touch and thanked him for his time. @@insertname942
I love your mother!!❤️
Mummas a Lightworker❤
Your mom.is an angel ❤
The most terrifying part of this story is that everything around the couch was clean, being kept up with, was being lived in. that makes me want to throw up the most.
Yeah,like just shows they purposely left her there to actually rot 😔
Yes like it’s not like it’s an incompetent pair of low iq people that truly couldnt properly care for themselves well much less her. They clearly could clean, socialize well etc. they had money at their disposal, it’s crazy. If your daughter can’t get off the couch at the very least they have depression and should be taken to a psychiatrist.
I agree. How can anyone walk past that EVERY DAY and not go get help…? Especially in the early stages, knowing the person hasn’t been moving. As time went on they KNEW she was suffering and chose to not help her.
The parents not once had any company over in 12 yrs?! How is that even possible? Someone had to know what was going on.. I wouldn't be surprised if they were soliciting their daughter for sex that entire time.
@@desladd3932I wonder though since the type of town they were in, more than likely the neighbors have the mindset of “none of my business”. So they probably saw things that seemed off or questioning why they never saw her again for 12 years, but in small towns like that I wouldn’t doubt they would just ignore the warning signs.
When your daughter goes from being active, and athletic every day, to refusing to get off the couch or move; you take her to the hospital. What is wrong with these parents? My only explanation is that they did something to her to make her that way.
Oh they definitely did something to her to make her that way.
yep my thoughts exactly. they did something to her and then just let her rot away until she died.
The parents are lying about everything They thought she was evil probably hated her, abused her, by shoving things into her mouth to punish her.
My daughter has "Locked In Syndrome" (completely paralyzed) from being hit by a drunk driver over a year ago. She has feeding tube, catheter, etc. She communicated by eye movement until a few months ago we were able to get her a special computer. She focuses her eye on each letter and when she's done the computer will speak for her. It has to be positioned right in front of her eyes. I pray science comes up with a better way of communicating & diagnosing patients who are "locked in". It was her devoted husband noticed she could roll her eyes upward for "Yes" & down for "No". Family does Physical Therapy daily besides the appointments. She's never complained, is very brave, keeps hope. We care for her now at home. People who are locked in need dedicated families to care for & love them.❤
Yeah, they probably kept blaming something or someone instead of taking action. I’m seeing it more and more, as if we’re all powerless, we certainly don’t want to be “Karen”.
Law student here. I usually don't see true crime youtubers accurately describe different grades of murder and manslaughter, so when you first went "voluntary manslaughter is...," I took a deep breath and prepared to hear another incorrect description and then it was like you quoted my criminal law professor.
Amazing research and you're so empathetic. I followed you within the first five minutes of the video.
This case has absolutely disgusted me since I first heard of it. No one. NO ONE would choose to live like that on a couch. Even the laziest people will get up to use the restroom or get something to eat. This can't happen unless something is seriously wrong--be it internal or (most likely) external. My heart shatters for her.
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy
🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵:
Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion)
Florian = Haji (Blood+)
Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry)
Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Adam = Ichigo (Bleach)
Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone)
Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter)
John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha)
John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball)
Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden)
Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan)
Naveen = Train (Black Cat)
Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia)
Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)
Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail)
Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸:
Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion)
Snowhite = Saya (Blood+)
Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry)
Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Belle = Orihime (Bleach)
Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone)
Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha)
Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball)
Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden)
Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece)
Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece)
Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan)
Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat)
Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia)
Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins)
Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail)
Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
@@tijanamilenkovic9442I'm sorry to inform you of this but if you're pasting shit like this, you're not 'intelligent'
Not true. Things like this can happen to anyone who is already challenged. Her screaming and refusing help. If her folks were so horrible WHY report her death?? Why not bury her in the yard? I'm withholding judgement until I hear the footage of their interrogation or deposition. And so should you. We don't have all the facts.
@@tijanamilenkovic9442 this comment was in bad taste.
@@amusedBYfools They reported the death after she was already decomposing and they even dared to say she had just eaten that same morning.
They saw her on that couch for EIGHT years, soiling herself, refusing to eat properly, to bathe, and they did nothing. They spent around 3000 days seeing her rotting away and never asked for help, not even once.
Why did they report her passing instead of burying her body? Because in addition to being evil they are also dumb.
There is definitely something the parents aren’t telling us… this happened for so long, it wasn’t an accident. It was a decision made everyday for 12 years to let her rot away. Such a terrible way to die, poor girl. She didn’t deserve that treatment, no one does.
I suspect they did it on purpose, as revenge/ punishment for her needing extra support.
They said when they became parents they didn't sign on to be care takers. I think they are deplorable psychopaths or something. I wouldn't allow this to happen to my worst enemy, let alone my daughter. I keep waiting to hear if they will get prison time. 🙏🤞
@@mirzamay I completely agree with you! And what about all of the nail marks all around her area of the couch. Like she was clawing to try to stand up. Like she was clawing to try to get help and escape. Also yeah when you CHOOSE to become a parent you sign up to be a caretaker LMAO I don't know I genuinely wonder if they chained her to the couch at first. Like for the first few years and then after that her legs and arms are too atrophied she couldn't escape anymore so they didn't bother
@@WhitneyDahlin yeah, wow. Who knows what the whole story is. It seems like they were passive, she was off in college and living life and then she wasn't. To think these people or anyone could do this to their child runs counter to everything a decent person could think of, but if they could do this much they could probably do anything. This is off in the woods territory. They should investigate everything she communicated to her friends and regrets back when she could communicate and see what she told them about her parents.
Because you'd think she'd have a phone, and if she could claw you'd think she could push buttons, so there may be way more to this anyone knows. This could be like when parents lock their child in an attic, but her attic was the couch.
@@AlissaSss23yes. Totally. Like her weakness made them resent her.
She died at 36 in 2022, on the couch since 2010 when she was 24, she was pulled from school at 16, what happened during those 8 years? Where was she, what did she do? That’s the freakiest part to me, it’s only been 12 years, what about the other 8??
Considering they actively cut off her social connections, I’d not be surprised if 1 or both parents abused her. Using homeschooling and her autism diagnosis as a way to prevent her from getting help.
Edit: ah, I replied before I reached the part where people have the same suspicion I do.
The fact that she got more and more reclusive since an early age (14 I guess) tells me she was mentally abused and sexually enslaved, and eventually her trauma led her to be catatonic, allowing her to be tied down and tortured.
I missed that. So she was abused sexually? What happened to the parents? Are they in prison?
@sandrawelch6653 Am currently at the 58:56 mark and so far its one of those things barely hinted at in the description of Lacey being "found" mostly nude, except for barely a shirt that didn't even cover her breasts. It's a small detail, easy to miss amongst all the other horrifying details, but one that suggests Lacey was probably suffering long before her couch days.
Another small detail that's easy to overlook in this regard is she was pulled out of school as a teenager. Homeschooling isn't exactly something that gets *easier* the older a student is; it was a struggle with my young daughter during all the lockdowns (getting her to do the work; not so much the work itself.) Why would they randomly pull her out for no apparent reason? Perhaps some sicko reasoning of she's appearing to be womanly and her abuser didn't want her to get a boyfriend, or perhaps her abuser impregnated her and needed to hide it/"take care of the problem"/ensure she could never tell anyone. Perhaps. We'll never know.
If there is any truth to these grim speculations, perhaps this may also explain her love for Disney movies. Happy endings where characters are saved from bad circumstances or true love conquers all. Heck, I'm 41 and still want that lie Disney promised little girls of the 80s and 90s: Finding my true love, sharing true loves kiss, and living happily ever after. I know it's a lie, but I still want it and I know I can't be the only one. Regardless, it would make sense that these movies could provide a form of escapism for someone in a situation like Lacey may have been in. Dreaming of her hero/true love/prince coming to her rescue and living happily ever after. The poor girl. She certainly needed rescued and nobody knew until it was too late 💔
Update: the theory gets mentioned around the 1hr 1minute mark. Along with some other theories. They are only theories. All any of us can do is speculate and theorize.
I feel she was being **PIMPED* by them.
Good LORDT you knew what I meant. 🙄 SOLD FOR SEX. Is that better, children?
There's something extremely sinister about two people who can appear so genuinely kind and empathetic to the public and can simultaneously do something like this to their own, only child
Exactly. That is the most effed up thing I've ever heard. I can't even imagine. The thought just drives me up the walls. Image even the effect this had on neighbors and the community. How can you EVER trust people again?
if my parents didnt help me during my periods of immobility i fully believe i would not be here right now. i have no idea how she survived
@@kalonacre She didn't survive.
@@KungPuKittyRescue maybe they meant survived for as long as she did. It's honestly a wonder how she lived as long as she did being treated the way she was. What evil people
They must have been able to completely shut out what was going on over there on the couch
Just a quick comment from a nurse who worked with people in a vegetative state, who look like they are awake but are not (as far as we know):
Patients with Locked-in Syndrome can only move their eyes vertically, so that is one of the many things doctors nowadays check regularly when speaking to presumably unconscious patients. The awareness has risen a lot and I personally treat all unconscious people as if they were awake. Just feels right. Who knows what's happening behind that forehead. Thank you for spreading awareness and speaking about this condition, it is even now often mistaken as a vegetative state. So thank you
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy
🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵:
Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion)
Florian = Haji (Blood+)
Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry)
Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Adam = Ichigo (Bleach)
Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone)
Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter)
John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha)
John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball)
Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden)
Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan)
Naveen = Train (Black Cat)
Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia)
Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)
Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail)
Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸:
Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion)
Snowhite = Saya (Blood+)
Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry)
Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Belle = Orihime (Bleach)
Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone)
Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha)
Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball)
Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden)
Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece)
Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece)
Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan)
Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat)
Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia)
Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins)
Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail)
Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
My aunt was in a coma for a month, she told me all the conversations and things that happened around her while she was in a coma. Very scary stuff but she remembered my grandmother giving her comfort and she said she was always grateful for that much.
Please forgive my blunt language. Those people choose to watch their child literally rot in front of them for 12 years. To suggest that this could, in any way be attributed to this poor victim is insane and to call her “parents” anything but criminals is an injustice.
nothing wrong with your language! it’s the unfortunate truth of what happened to her. Steph said she rotted as well.
i just can't help but assume they're a different kind of mentally insane/psychotic to watch their own child rotting away on a couch. My brain cannot comprehend the evilness without assuming they're not all there in the head
Exactly exactly 💯 no matter how much her depression or no matt3r what they thought that was but 12 years of watching their kid literally melting into the sofa with insects eating her there is no exuse for that like even 1 year is alot
@@yumeyum9927en 48 HOURS IS A LOT!!
It wouldn't even Cross My MIND to leave one of my CATS on a couch, unable to respond for an HOUR!! WTF WORLD??! 😮
THAT CAT would be in their case, on my back, me on my scooter bonzaiing through the snow naked if that"s what it took to get help for a creature in obvious distress.
Folks, I can be sentimental, but when it comes to suffering I have zero patience when it comes to others. You do what needs to be done
You MOBILIZE ALL Resources.
YOU MOVE HEAVEN AND Earth TO reduce someone's pain and suffering
I know this isn't how people tend to approach things these days. But that doesn't make it right
That just makes it more imperative that those of us who still retain a shred of human feeling DO EVERYTHING WE CAN
.. I'M just sick and angry right now. I need to go get some sunshine and fresh air.
God Have mercy on your souls if you have any you ...subhumans-
.Lacy's so-called parentsi
😢 Jesus Wept
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It is inconceivable to most of us. I mean, my skin crawls every time I hear about this case.
I hope everyone involved get some counselling. Because I can't imagine that what they saw and had to do, wouldn't be affecting them in some way, shape or form.
This is horrible. Melting through a couch and slowly dying is the worst way imaginable to die. I really hope she gets the justice she deserves. Whether torture or not, it is so disgusting. Thank you Stephanie for shining light on this case.
@NotVille_ she doesn’t fake her videos. You should search up this case and see if it is actually fake
@NotVille_maybe the videos made by notville are just the friends we made along the way
@NotVille_ Yeah, ok lol You don't even make videos! Jealousy is not a good look, buddy!
guys, that's a bot.
@@dethberri realllllll but it’s annoying bro is always yapping
They had several THOUSAND dollars to post bail, but couldn't provide their daughter with basic human care?? EVIL.
So disgusting
well first red flag is supporting the kkk. no one like that can be a good person
how could you walk past any living being in that state multiple times a day? Let alone your own daughter?
I hope there's a special place in 🔥🔥 for her sperm and egg donor. They're not parents in any way.
When I think I've heard the worst thing ever, like the Shanda Vander Ark case, there's aIways something worse. Idk if Hades is hot enough for someone who could do such a thing.
No one is "lazy" to the point that they refuse to get off the couch. There was something seriously wrong with her and her parents ignored it.
They hid it, because they knew it was wrong.
It's bizarre and there's no excuse good enough to justify watching another human, your own daughter, rot in front of your own eyes.
The fact that they lived in the house with that constant stench in the air but no one ever commented on the way the parents smelled, means they went to extraordinary measures to prevent the exposure of their own clothes and belongings to the putrid air in that living room. Instead of just bathing their adult daughter.
I read something that said they had an apartment where they lived. They would come back to the house from time to time to see her.
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy
🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵:
Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion)
Florian = Haji (Blood+)
Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry)
Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Adam = Ichigo (Bleach)
Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone)
Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter)
John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha)
John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball)
Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden)
Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan)
Naveen = Train (Black Cat)
Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia)
Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)
Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail)
Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸:
Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion)
Snowhite = Saya (Blood+)
Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry)
Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Belle = Orihime (Bleach)
Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone)
Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha)
Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball)
Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden)
Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece)
Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece)
Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan)
Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat)
Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia)
Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins)
Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail)
Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
@@tijanamilenkovic9442 🙄
@@MPPG663You're probably right. I haven't seen too many people consider that they might've lived somewhere else.
I feel like the neighbors weren't questioned enough about all this, they definitely know whether the parents lived there or not.
@@tijanamilenkovic9442 I also have this habit of changing or rather comparing animation characters to Anime characters
Not premeditated? They had 12 years to mediate on it. And they chose to let her suffer every time. These “parents” are inhuman.
I can't stand to see my daughter even be sad, let alone physically hurt. This blows my entire mind. I'm 37 my mom wouldn't do this to me the same. I just don't understand. I'm horrified
Mediate?
@@amymckay23 It's kind of planning when it comes to things like this. For example, if I wanted to commit tax fraud and I planned on how I'd do it, it would be first degree premeditated. Hope this helps ❤
@@amymckay23p sure they meant meditate
Every second they left her on that couch and told nobody, they chose this outcome. Again and again. For over a decade.
I’m a retired Augmentative Communication Speech Language Pathologist. I met a client who had been locked in from a stroke for a year. We were able to establish a yes and no the first day I met him. I will never forget his tears. Within a couple of days we had a spelling system. It was on my career highlights.
Thank you for doing this work. It’s such a blessing for your patients and their families.
Your vocation was a true gift to so many who had lost their voice! I appreciate you for choosing to be a light in this world.
That’s amazing! I’m just an SLPA because I can’t afford the cost of the degree, but stories like this make me really wish I could afford it.
Wow. Amazing. Thank you so much!
@@caittails Retired SLP here. There is NO SUCH THING as "just a SLPA". You guys are gold to the profession. You do so much work and have so much knowledge. And aren't paid nearly enough. Appreciate your skills, and hopefully you can someday earn the degree.
It baffles me how a community who claims to be so close and involved in each other’s lives would not go to their house once in 12 years.
Exactly!!! Like no one visits inside each others house but you’re that social?
It's the small town thing and their place in it. It's not hard to have people feel like going to their home was inappropriate. They had no real friendships, it was all fake. Southerners are great at stopping to chit chat with people they actually hate.
I live outside a small town of 250 people. No one has been inside my house since 2016. It happens.
Yes. That's what mystifies me the most. If they'd lived in the wilderness with no one around, or, conversely, in a city where no one paid attention to anyone, ever, for any reason, I could see them getting away with it. But all those years, and no one ever visited them? It's not conceivable.
Because they were respected, they probably rejected people when they tried to visit and that’s it.
There's an image of her. After she was removed from the couch. She looks like, and I mean this entirely without any disrespect to her, she looks so broken and flattened and discolored. There is absolutely no way that her parents weren't aware she needed something. Anything. They weren't "poor and couldn't get her care." They hid the state she was in. I sincerely think they hurt her. I think they hurt her and they kept her alive to avoid having to dispose of her. They kept her cared for enough to keep her alive and absolutely nothing else.
wheres the photo?
@@theasshleyylove ur pfpxx I think it's on Google!
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy
🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵:
Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion)
Florian = Haji (Blood+)
Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry)
Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Adam = Ichigo (Bleach)
Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone)
Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter)
John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha)
John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball)
Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden)
Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan)
Naveen = Train (Black Cat)
Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia)
Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)
Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail)
Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸:
Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion)
Snowhite = Saya (Blood+)
Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry)
Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Belle = Orihime (Bleach)
Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone)
Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha)
Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball)
Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden)
Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece)
Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece)
Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan)
Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat)
Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia)
Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins)
Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail)
Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
why would you disrespect her memory searching pictures of her dead body? c'mon people we are better than this...
It's no different than this UA-camr monetizing a video about her death.
And you watching said video
@@mvp9
My mother lost 5 pounds when I was in the hospital fighting for my life. My father ditched work to fly half way across the world, bringing me clothes because he prayed I would wake up. My mother helped my nurses change my position and wash me so I wouldn’t get infections.
To those “parents.” You have no right to tell people who have almost or did lose their child that they are one and the same. How. Dare. You.
They got 40 years in prison and they did get 20 years before that but they decided to suspended it so they got 40 years in prison so they are definitely paying for what they did
The disrespect to try and "relate" but their actions and behavior was despicable and vile!
You are lucky to be blessed with such good parents. If only all parents could be like that, we'd have a lot fewer dysfunctional adults.
I hope you're doing better & give your parents a hug for an Internet stranger. Those ppl weren't parents at all
Respect to u 🫡🫡✊
As an autistic woman, I appreciate you taking the time to seperate her autism from her situation. Autism looks different but is not a bad thing.
Absolutely much love to you💛
@NotVille_and yet here you are, being nasty begging for views and subs on her popular channel? Okay child.
I have two children with autism. They are happy living life their own way. Sure we do therapy so that it’s easier to function within society. But I hope they never lose their unique way of looking at the world.
As a fellow high functioning autistic women it causes me so many problems that neurotypical people don’t face. Also how about lower functioning autistic folks who have so many hardships caused by their autism? Autism isn’t a moral or personal failing but i don’t understand this point of view. Not trying to be rude at all just to be clear.
@NotVille_she doesn’t fake her videos
Just saw an update, the parents were sentenced to 20 and 40 years in jail, which in my opinion, is not nearly enough for the murder of this promising young woman.
Max sentencing in Louisiana is 40 years for manslaughter
They got it lessened at 20 years
the parents are old they’ll probably die in 20-40 years anyway
They should have a years!
they should have been sentenced in prison until they die bc that's what they did to there daughter.
sentenced to 20 years, with a consecutive 20-year suspended sentence. So they got 20 years in jail and then 20 years of probation
As someone with ASD who suffered severe agoraphobia for 5 years, my ex in laws and my ex husband made sure I at least got out of bed every day and showered. They also cleaned my house because I couldn't. And that was my ex husband and his family! For parents to allow her to get in this condition is unforgivable. How can a parent let that happen to their child??? I didnt have locked in syndrome but I did have psychomotor retardation. If my mother had been alive during that long and nightmarish episode, she would have never let me lay there and rot into my bed. I was lucky to have people that cared enough to notice when i quit talking. These people were terrible and I hope theyre locked up for the rest of their lives.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school, followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
As a doctor , I applaud you for doing your research, the potassium part was impressive 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Seriously I felt Steph was channeling ChubbyEmu when she got to that point!
I know she is awesome! I love knowing a doctor agrees!
she has an entire research team so I would so hope so 😅
Lots of people have "teams" behind them@@melissamoonchild9216 Doesn't mean she doesn't have to still put in effort?
Doctor? Is living this way for so long even possible. I can't fathom that the human mind would even survive for even a few years, much less 12 years
The fact that the parents didn't even bother to pull her top down when she was dead, is very disturbing to me. They called the doctor, he found her like that, they didn't felt shame, they didn't protect her dignity. Seems to me they had no compassion at all for her, they are so deprived of feelings towards them, so actively torturing seems very likely (it already is passive torturing).
One thing a Redditor said and stuck with me is: what if they thought she was possessed by a demon (since their religion believes in those things) and felt no compassion because they thought that’s not their daughter anymore?
@@martafiord
If they'd really think their child was possessed by a demon, they wouldn't go on enjoying their lives. They would'nt give the demon food or water to drink for 12 years, like it is a pet, they wouldn't ate their breakfast next to them, wouldn't take a nap next to her....Instead they would panic, they would call a bunch of priests, all kinds of help from the church, do a lot of drawn out rituals, etcetera.
The basis for all religions is to love and not harm. My guess is these people are just hiding behind religion, putting up a facade. There's probably more evil and sadism in them than normal people can imagine. Don't forget, we only know the tip of the iceberg, we don't know what these parents have done in all those other years leading up to this death, and I don't even want to imagine. So either they are incredibly nice people, that are accommodating a demon in their house, for years like, mi case es su casa......or they are the worst parents ever, that will try to look like they are the innocent victim here
@@martafiordI’m sorry but it’s her damn evil parents that were the people possessed by a demon.
They were not possessed by demons. They were humans who chose to do an abominable, evil, inexcusable thing. They are culpable. There are no demons. Only evil people who cry 'demon' as a scapegoat, or an excuse, to absolve themselves, and stupid people who let them get away with it because they believe in demons.
@@martafiordThat's actually not normal for how christians behave Or believe unless they're in extreme minister in cults. Christian
They left her rotting in the couch for 12 YEARS, HOW COULD THE JUDGE SAY IT WAS NOT PREMEDITATED??? 2ND DEGREE MURDER??
Because certain legal factors have to be involved to qualify it as premeditated. That's how these things work. There's no such thing as perfect justice.
@@WeRNthisToGetHer and that absolutely sucks
Likely part of it is while they may have had intent to harm and neglect, the court can’t prove that they had specific intent to kill. It’s possible that her death was only the product of their actions, not the goal. Absolutely does not vindicate them, but it can’t be categorized as first-degree because their “pre-meditation” doesn’t involve intent to kill (as far as we know).
Probably. I’m not a legal professional.
@@_McCormickProductions It doesn't suck. The alternate is that people get charged wrongfully (more often than now) because nothing ever needs to be proven.
Fr wtf is wrong with that judge??
Did anyone find out WHY the couple did this???? I know they've been sentenced but I've looked for two hours and haven't found anything regarding a statement from them or any explanation on their part, other than "not wanting to be caaretakers". There is no way these two walked past, what is almost a rotting corpse that is their only daughter, every single day, and slept, ate, lounged about, with no given reason. I refuse to accept that.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
My mom worked for years as a caregiver for mentally disabled people. A lot of them would have their menstrual cycle and not want to change their pad. Some would not want to bathe. Some would defecate in their pants or diaper and not want to change. But the caregivers always found a way to get them to agree to be cleaned and for their clothes/underwear to be changed or to get in the a bath. It can be difficult but if you love someone or have any humanity you would find a way! This is heart breaking. There is no excuse for this behavior. Truly depraved
Agreed no excuse your mom and those caregivers doing their jobs wel BLESS THEM!!! and thank you to them for their service absolutely incredible.❤
Yeah, my mom used to work in a nursing home. She works at homes with disabled people now, same thing as you said. I don't know how anyone could be so negligent to people who can't even shower on their own.
Sadly, not all people care that much :/ My grandma is in a memory care facility for dementia, and my mom has told me that she's gone upwards of two weeks without a shower. The nurses simply don't try to get her to shower, and my mom can't do it on her own. My mom is constantly asking the staff to do more than just ask "do you want a shower?", and some have straight up refused.
Lacy could not even move. Her parents lied. For whatever reason, they obviously also fed her her own feces since Lacy could not have moved to transfer the feces from her buttocks area to her face and mouth. These two people who were supposed to love and care for their child, physically and mentally abused her and their abuse resulted in her long horrible torturous death. Had she received proper care, she would never have had maggots eating holes in her body, never had all the horrible things happen to her body while she lay there helpless to do anything about it. With proper care, it is possible she may have responded and come out of her locked out condition and be alive today. This is one of the worst cases of murder I have ever heard of.
Like a lot of little kids hate taking baths, but that doesn't mean you just let them rot
In nursing school, I did a clinical rotation in a sub acute unit- people in comas, on treacheostmy, my first day a nurse dropped the patients bed with a jolt. And was pretty rough with all the treatment. She told me " it's ok, these people can't hear, feel or know what you are doing" well, when do care I talk to the patient. I introduce myself, explain what care I'm doing, tell them the time of day and weather outside. I often relate the basic news of the day. You never know what that person, hears, sees or knows.
God bless you ❤ we need more people like you to help care for others
Hopefully, you may teach others some day and show them the right way to do it instead of the way you were shown. ❤
Wtf she should be reported to the board so she can take sensitivity training because that is really fucked up.
The world needs more nurses like you ♡
@@DeaDiabola She shouldn't be a nurse anymore. That's deplorable behavior.
One of the first signs of abuse is isolation ...
This!
True story
yes, and narcissists isolate their victims to have full control of them, i think they enjoyed it
It’s like out of sight Out of mind. There were people who asked about her. But no one asked why she wasn’t at church or at social functions?
So true
its so sad that i was born in 2010 and i keep thinking that through my whole life this poor girl was going through one of the worst situations imaginable she couldnt even move.
Exactly!! :(
My brother was born in 2010 and i was thinking like while i saw him grow up there was this girl slowly rotting to death because of some so called parents i just feel sad for her
Right
Please don't reveal your age on the Internet ❤ stay safe!
The parents are 💯 responsible for her death!! There is no justification possible for letting someone rot on a couch for 12 years and the fact that they tried to blame Lacey for it is absolutely disgusting. They are vile human beings, if you can even call them that. If they didn’t want to look after her, they could have at least have had her put in a medical facility. In my eyes this was the same as murder but worse.
Yes and they made excuses - saying she refused to go to the doctor etc... just ridiculous
THe only way I see this happening is she either had that disease where you cannot feel pain along with severe social anxiety. Or her parents kept on the couch for some odd reason. Why weren't any adult diapers put on her? This is just so effing sad and weird!
A lot worse. The worst kind of torture
@Andronicus87 they were lazy
@Andronicus87 what disease are u talking about???? Who said she couldn't feel pain????
I’m absolutely disgusted and speechless. I myself am disabled and have been completely bed bound the past 11 years and my mom is my full time 24/7 caregiver. She does everything for me even when she has her own health issues and pain. Never once in the past 11 years has my mom ever ignored me or given up on me even when I’ve given up on myself. That is the love of a parent. I’m so horrified by Lacey’s situation and can’t even begin to imagine the amount of physical, mental, and emotion tortured, trauma, and pain she went through for 12+ years. They easily could’ve had a doctor or caretakers come to the house if they actually wanted to help her. This is so sickening.
Edit: I’m so extremely thankful to have such an incredible mom. I’m beyond blessed that this caring and selfless woman is my mother and I’d be completely lost without her. The level of care she gives me and how much she advocates for me is truly above and beyond and I’m just so blessed. I know it can’t be easy to watch your child suffer since a young age and feel helpless with not being able to fix things. But even during the most difficult days and horrible surgeries and awful appointments etc she’s always there with me and there for me which helps so much. She’s my angel and even if I were given 20 lives I’d never be able to repay her for everything she’s done and does for me.
prayers for you both ❤
God bless your mama and big hugs to you both
Do you have a pressure changing mattress? My partner has one now, I hope it makes a difference.
THIS!! I'm not FULLY bed bound, but for the past two years or so, I have been barely able to leave the bed, let alone the house. I had diabetes that had been developing for years and years and my doctors were completely neglectful. For 5 years I was told that I was fine and there was nothing wrong. The diabetes had probably been developing even further back, but I only started to see symptoms 5 years ago. So basically I was slowly getting sicker and sicker with no answers or help. And about 2 years ago is when it started to get bad and I couldn't function anymore. I was sleeping 15-18 hours a day, I was in excruciating pain and I couldn't even do simple things like brushing my teeth or showering. Eventually I FINALLY got diagnosed with diabetes. But by that point it was BAD. I had liver damage, kidney damage, and damage to my nervous system. My heart had become atrophied and deconditioned from years of being too tired and in too much pain to move. But throughout it all, I had my mom.
She helps me do everything now, even though shes approaching 70 herself. She helps me shower, makes me meals every day, helps move my wheelchair in and out of the car, brings me to my appointments, everything. Parents are supposed to be there for you. To love you and protect you. Like you said, even if they felt unfit to care for all of her needs, I'm sure they could have hired a caretaker for her. I'm fairly certain insurance would have covered that for her. And if they didn't have insurance, there are definitely ways to get government help for that. This whole situation is completely fucking disgusting and there are zero excuses for it.
On another note, I'm so sorry you've had to go through what you've gone through. Being bed bound is really really rough. So many people act like we're so lucky that we get to sit in bed all day, but it's horrible. I'm only 21. I'm stuck in bed watching all my friends grow up and start their lives. I hope things get better for your physically or at the very least that you're able to find ways to adapt and still live a fulfilling life.
It is possible to live a happy and fulfilling life, no matter how disabled you are. I can only wonder what kind of life Lacey could have lived if only she'd had different parents.
So you lay in bed 247 geez
It was just reported today that both of her parents were sentenced to 40 years for manslaughter.
they only got 20 years
@louangeles3770 Yes, they'll likely only serve 20 years, but they were sentenced to 40 with 20 being suspended.
What the heck why didn’t they get sentence for life!
@@hunnybees9869 The maximum sentence for manslaughter in Louisiana is 40 years.
HALLELUJAH!
I've seen this case previously & it is horrifying!! As an autistic person and mother of an autistic child, our ways of coping with the world can be hard for others to understand, watching Disney movies is still one of my comforts when the world is overwhelming and there are times when I need to isolate to regulate my emotions. I and many other autistic people have periods of time where we shut down and every day functions seem impossible, but a carer/parent will typically be able to assist us to manage our basic functions. Thank you so much for the way you have described autism, you are one of the few UA-camrs I've seen who truly understands us!!!
My mom worked in a nursing home in Germany where they specialized in “locked in” and comatosed patients.
One lady was my mother’s hero.
She could only blink but that didn’t slow her down from continuing to run her business. She had a computer hooked up to her eyelids that was created specifically for the patient. It would run the alphabet and numbers and this lady wrote entire business letters while being trapped in her body. Sadly she declined over about 2 years. The last letter my mom’s patient wrote was addressed to my mom, thanking her for her help and compassion.
When she passed, it hit my mom hard and most had a big impact on my mom life. My mom still talk an about her patient to this day.
What was the name of the nursing home?, or the name of your mom, I'm trying to find that "nursing home" your talking about
What an amazing women both the patient and your mother. I can't imagine the patience it would take to even blink a sentence letter by letter but to run a business, how impressive. For her last letter to be to your mom speaks volumes to the type of woman she is. Thanks for sharing!
your mother sounds like an angel. tell her random people on the internet think she's a superhero. if she's no longer with you, know that she was an absolute hero. I always thank nurses and doctors as well as ppl in the military etc. they do a job I never could and not bc I'm not intelligent enough - it's about strength. what a wonderful woman your mother is.
I dont know how it feels to be in that situation but It sounds good to have something to do and think about
@@JosephLyre Stop being an edgelord. Go outside.
the fact that they walked past her everyday for 12 YEARS and saw the pain and conditions she was going through but still did absolutely nothing is disgusting. also they were able to pay to post bail but couldn’t get her the help she needed? there’s definitely something their not telling us
Because they don't care.
they were definitely abusing her prior to this abusive neglect. Idk why i get the feeling that they neglected her so badly because she was autistic. i’ve seen many cases where parents are abusive to their kids with similar circumstances because they’re not “normal” idky i get that vibe from them.
One more proof there is no go, no justice, no karma!
🤬
So a lot of times with bail, it’s not actual cash. It’s usually a home put up for collateral.. and then you’ll only pay 5% in cash to get out.
Just helping everyone understand 😕
Let's cheer things up 💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜, I am an autistic and intelligent woman myself and if Lacey was still alive, I would have interesting conversation, she liked Disney movies and I like anime, it would be about which Disney Princess is which anime girl and which Disney Prince is which anime boy
🏵🏵🏵🏵which Disney Prince is which anime boy🏵🏵🏵🏵:
Mickey Mouse = Kimba (Kimba The White Lion)
Florian = Haji (Blood+)
Phillipe = Yumeji (Yumekui Marry)
Henry = Leon (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Adam = Ichigo (Bleach)
Eugene = Yuji (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Mowgli = Senku (Dr. Stone)
Dimitri = Edward (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Jimm Hawking = Shinji (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Milo = Jeanne (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Arthur = Gon Freeccs (Hunter X Hunter)
John Smith = Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)/Kouga (Inuyasha)
John Rolfe = Ranma (Ranma 1/2)/Inuyasha (Inuyasha)
Hercules = Goku (Dragon Ball)
Li Shang = Tanjiro (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Aladdin = Naruto (Naruto Shippuden)
Peter Pan = Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tarzan = Eren (Attack On Titan)
Naveen = Train (Black Cat)
Quasimodo = Deku (My Hero Academia)
Phoebus = Bakugo/Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Taran = Meliodas (Seven Deadly Sins)
Mateo = Natsu (Fairy Tail)
Eric = Kaito (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
🌸🌸🌸🌸which Disney Princess is which anime girl🌸🌸🌸🌸:
Minnie Mouse = Kitty (Kimba The White Lion)
Snowhite = Saya (Blood+)
Aurora = Merry (Yumekui Merry)
Cinderella = Olivia (Trapped In A Dating Sim: Otome Games Are Tough For The Mobs)
Belle = Orihime (Bleach)
Rapunzel = Nobara (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Shanti = Yuzuriha (Dr. Stone)
Anastasia = Winry (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Amelia = Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kida = Nadia (Nadia The Secret Of Blue Water)
Alice = Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura)/Pomni/Ragatha (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Pocahontas = Akane (Ranma 1/2)/Kagome (Inuyasha)
Megara = Chichi/Bulma (Dragon Ball)
Fa Mulan = Kanao (Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba)
Jasmine = Hinata (Naruto Shippuden)
Wendy Darling = Nico Robin/Nami (One Piece)
Tinkerbelle = Shirahoshi (One Piece)
Jane = Mikasa (Attack On Titan)
Tiana = Kyoko (Black Cat)
Esmeralda = Uraraka/Momo (My Hero Academia)
Eilonwy = Elizabeth/Diane (Seven Deadly Sins)
Elena = Lucy (Fairy Tail)
Ariel = Lucia (Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi)
They should be charged with torture as well, in my opinion. She was alive, having rotted away into that couch; alive enough to have had recently eaten something. Maggots kept her clean for 12 years, and she was alive enough to feel it. This girl was absolutely tortured, and I am so outraged that they aren't getting charged with more than 2nd degree murder.
Me too @liziuhh!!! Me too!!! I hate them and hope they suffer a million times worse than what they do to her!!!! RIP Lacey.... I'm so sorry baby girl!!!! I pray you're at peace now. ❤ ✝️ 🙏
@@Irish_Georgia_GirlFr I hope shes safe with god now 🙏
In my country they’d be strung up the following day ….why is the west so lenient
@@laylachisom8996they shouldn’t be. death penalty is only option in my opinion, these “parents” were pure evil and made her suffer for YEARS😭
She recently eaten couch foam and feces which makes me realise something is very wrong here. She clearly could move somewhat.
The maggots treated Lacey better then her own PARENTS! The same parents who WALKED PASSED HER ROTTEN BODY! Horrible.
I.... wish the maggots didn't...
She suffered longer because of that.
She suffered from 14 to 24 and from 24 to 36 on the couch.
If I even saw one maggot In my house, I'd lose my mind. But if they were crawling in and out of my daughters body?? The fuck!!?!? These parents are despicable.
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True. I may not go well with children because of my anger issues that make me mad easily but, this is just sick and twisted.. how could parents do this to their children?!?
You'd lose your mind over a maggot? Weird.
@@kneegrow3906 ew how gross is YOUR house? Is it normal for you to see maggots crawling around? 🤮
@@kneegrow3906you won't? weird.
The fact that the police didn't IMMEDIATELY arrest the parents is freaking criminal.
This whole thing is gut-wrenching and horrible. These people are MONSTERS who do not deserve even the most basic human kindness or consideration
Even IF all the parents claims are true, it doesn't excuse the incredibly deplorable way she was treated
What would you want them to do? Murica!!
@@TheSasudomi uhhh... Arrest and lock them up for the rest of their miserable lives? Like I basically said?
@@dragonyamiThey get the wall. You know, the one with sand bags behind it.
Yes. There's no way these people didn't know what they were doing. They knew, and they had years to gather up a modicum of humanity and help her. But they didn't.
This case is so satanic it involves the police and the courts. They are in on it.
I refuse to believe no one else in the town or the world knew this was going on. She was in their LIVING ROOM, not some hidden dungeon. How did the parents not smell?? This whole thing is so nefarious.
The living room thing is almost the wildest part, if she was in a bedroom that they just didnt go into I guess it would make a little bit more sense but its the living room... like did they just stop having guests over for 12 years? Did no one think that was odd? No house repairs, friends for dinner, nothing? And how could they have genuinely walked past her shitting and pissing and rotting into a melting couch every day.
@@buttercup_roach exactly!! Especially because they were so social and highly regarded in a VERY small town where everyone knows everybody’s business. They weren’t some shut-ins in a huge city where no one would notice that they smelled or behaved so oddly.
@@DiMagnolia "small" is a relative term. I have 5 different neighbors a couple meters away from my house in all sides and I couldn't tell them apart to save my life. And this crime happened in the US, and in a rural area to boot so we're talking about several tens if not hundreds of meters apart houses. It's natural that detection is impossible
@@yggreuyri5822 You know when an animal has been hit and is rotting by the side of the road and you drive by and the smell of death fills your car, even though you're like fifty feet away? That death smell is strong. It permeates everything. It HAD to have been in her parents' clothing, hair, everything.
@quietone748 That's the first thing I thought too, her parent's clothes had to have that smell in them.
I hate knowing that this all happened an hour away from me. My aunt and neighbor were good friends with Lacy's mom and neither of them knew that they had a daughter or any kids at all. One of my aunts neighbors were the ones who reported the smells. No one was allowed in their house because they would leave weeks at a time. Really sad thing to think about honestly. And again, really scary to think this all happened so close to home.
"leave weeks at a time"
Wow
So they didn't even see the daughter as a person anymore
@@RiceTrees I guess not. I didn't meet the family myself, but no body thought that the daughter even lived with them anymore.
Hey, so, how did nobody notice the smell coming from them? If she was not getting up to use the toilet, after 1 year the smell would be unimaginable, and it would stick to their clothing and skin when they left the house. If someone is alive and decomposing, the smell is 10x as bad as the feces and urine, so when the parents left the house and would talk to people, how did they not notice how bad they reeked?
@zvezdoblyat i think they kept them selves clean enough not to smell. Or either they washed their clothes in a laundry mat. But I have no idea. Like I said my aunt knew them, not me
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away. We should forget them now as quick as possible that they even existed and never blame yourself again, there was nothing you could have done, they played their game well to the very end.
My algebra tutor was in her 50-s when her elderly mom became unable to move. This tiny-framed, thin woman was able to take care of her mom by herself for years. If the love of a child is strong, the love of the parents should be unimaginable. I will never believe that these two even TRIED to do something for poor Lacey. RIP
This happened a few.miles from me. Parents won't go to trial till late supper. Out on bond. How did they not see or smell. Please keep up to date. Thank you
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As the mother of an autistic teen girl, I understand the depression and anxiety that Lacey may have been feeling. I am also a recovering agoraphobic. However, I don't care what my child says or how big of a fit they throw, if they sit somewhere without moving for over a day, I am calling 911, local mental hospitals, or anybody that can help. I will not stand by and slowly watch my child, or anyone, die when they can be helped.
They tortured her on purpose, starved her, pretended she no longer existed, clearly had no friends over and kept her secret. There is no way they can wipe her situation off on her mental health in any way. Something shifted in their relationship to her, perhaps she wanted to go away to college, or she wanted to tell the police about them, and they restrained her to the couch and abused her for years. They clearly stopped caring about her entirely and had only the intent left to hurt her. They're vicious, hateful, and couldn't have cared less whether she lived or died. I hope they go away for a long time.
@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 while they may not have intended for it to happen initially, 12 years is just too ridiculous to even be justifiable. Even 2 years is insane to think about per your example given.
The human mind can think of something as normal and adapt to a situation quickly but what kind of situation like that could even be normalised? It is completely upto the people living with them to try their best to help them not just leave them there because as a loved one how can you not?
@tasnimanimanimaa and I'm not justifying it. They got 40 years, and that's good. I'm just saying we don't have to make up crazy fanfics about it - this is perfectly in the realm of possibility as a mental health issue and cognitive dissonance.
Everyone failed this poor woman, not just her parents - they literally tried to get help from the doctor and were brushed of which would've sent them further into thinking this was normal and she'd get over it. Not to mention the "tight knit" community and noone went to check.
The human mind can normalise anything, especially if it happens gradually. Go watch something about hoarding, animal hoarding in particular - where they genuinely believe they are helping and taking proper care of the animals, and yet are living in houses full of feaces and mould. The human mind can do that.
People are not comprehending that she wasn't in that final condition for the full 12 years - that is not possible, you cannot survive that , it would've been a gradual decline in care.
Two adults could have lifted her and showered her. The could have designed special couches, massaged her and so many things. Home health and SS disability were available. So many thing s. They left so she would die. No these community leaders were not dumb just cruel.
I think when they left for vacation they premedicated her death
FYI degrees of homicide are not uniform across states. Your explanations are thus not technically correct.
The way she kept her legs crossed suggests SA.
I lived in slaughter Louisiana in the early Covid years and my blood ran cold hearing this. I wish I could have found her, but there was no way for me to even know she existed. That’s the true terror
I just have a question, because it keeps popping up here... Did the Fletchers have visitors over much? They were such prominent figures in the town, and their daughter was just *there* in the living room, on the couch, how did nobody see? Surely for things such as Christmas or Thanksgiving, big things for small town, Christian folks like them, they would've had people over?
@@auronirahman2837I read from another comment that claimed they lived in that neighborhood, saying that the Fletcher parents would be at weeks gone from their home, but their aunt (who lived in the area) has reported the smell before.
I remember falling into depression. Not wanting to shower nor getting out of my bed unless it was to use toilet or eat. And it was my mom who knew it was wrong and trying to find an answer to what is happening to me and getting an appointment for me for with psychiatrist. She was the one who tried to get me out of the bed and talk me out of what I was doing and convince me to get help.
My mom would never let that happen to me.
I've been in this rut of depression for a few weeks now. Your comment and this video are helping me get out of this asap, and I'm calling my therapist and psychiatrist today!!
I haven't been wanting to get ready when I wake up.
Let us know how you’re doing after you go to your appointment! I’m a stranger but I’ve been there and I care about you! It does get better!!! @@RoLLUpAFat1
PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR MOM🙏🙏🙏
@@RoLLUpAFat1that’s amazing!!! I’m finally getting back into hygiene habits and I have hygiene ocd (meaning I have ocd but some of the worst of my ocd is directed towards extreme hygiene habits), so imagine how “disgusting” I feel when in depressive episodes when I can’t take care of myself. I’ve just gotta humanize it and celebrate every little victory, I’m so proud of you and I’m so proud of myself for being able to brush my teeth today.
All I want to say is if they actually cared about their daughter, she wouldn't be dead. She wouldn't have foam and feces in her stomach. She wouldn't have been eaten alive by maggots. They wouldn't have let their daughter be forgotten.
When I suffered from a severe depression episode, my mom didn't know what to do but she refused to give up on me. She spent weeks trying to find out what to do and who to ask ontop of working plus taking care a household.
But she never gave up and now I'm here, healthy and much happier. I'm forever grateful for her
Props to you AND mom in this situation. Beautiful sharre. Mental health IS health ~ I'm glad you have support. It's so scary to go through these things alone
Exactly. I can’t fathom how can a mother do this to her child. She was vacationing when Lacey was suffering . Not even a single person cared about her. I mean she was in the living room, I bet people would’ve known. 👀
Exactly, im autistic with agorophobia but if i started soiling myself, you can bet anything my mom would start putting diapers on me & changing me,.. just like i do for my autistic son & will for as long as he needs me to,.. also, they stayed active in their community, they didnt even seem overwhelmed by it…
I'm so incredibly thankful for my partner doing the same for me. My family did next to nothing for me.
Thats a good mom right there.
After my Grandaddy had a stroke, he'd often sit there just staring off into the distance. One trip I made back home I was sitting there with him at the dinner table and my stepmom and another of her nurse friends was just talking about him right there while he was spacing out. He looked me dead in the eyes and said, "You know, they talk about me like I'm not here." After the initial shock, I asked him what he wanted to talk about, he said "Hell, I dunno anymore." I'll never get over that thought as long as I live.
I’m so glad you were in the moment with him❤
I’m so sad to hear that. I can not imagine doing that. He’s still a man. A man that raised a family, he’s a dad, a husband and a human being. Sometimes people are just very unaware, unfortunately.
My mother in law had Alzheimer’s. It was very early onset. Our youngest son would always want to help her walk, eat, everything. He was very young, but he was so attentive and kind. My mom helped care for her on and off for a few years. She would have a wonderful time taking her places and making everything special for her. Her husband was so heartbroken. It was so sad, but she had the best care possible. Her husband took her on many trips all over before she became unable. He wanted to do everything she had ever wanted to do knowing that they didn’t have very much time for it.
My aunt recently passed and she had Alzheimer’s as well. I still traveled out of state and spent a lot of time with her. I was blessed to be able to make her laugh and we spent hours just sitting together on the front porch chatting (as much as she could ) and we were like two high school girl friends joking and talking. It was wonderful. I’m so grateful for the time I had with her.
Thank you for your comment because we need to remember that we must treat others with kindness and be aware. Thank you. 💗
That’s so sad :(
I love the way she talked about autism, it was so polite and showed the range of the spectrum, as an autistic person and someone with autistic friends it was so refreshing to hear
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
the fact that maggots helped her more than her respected parents is ABSOLUTLEY disgusting
And the fact that they still lied about their crimes?? they probably fed her sofa foam and her own feces because of their sick and sadistic kink. Like who tf would leave their OWN daughter to rot in the sofa and sleep, eat and walk in the same house like it’s normal?
Omg those photos HAUNT me 😢
Could you describe the photo? Im a morbidly curious person but its nighttime and i know that image would be stuck in my head for weeks. @@lizzeyflower
@sairahilario it's her nude but don't see her face cuz she lay on belly. Her buns are not shown. I have seen plenty of graphic things from others to know what looks like. All you see how thin she looks and how her back was pale and little purple. Her hair just looked light brown. One nasty knot on her. That looks it had poop that can see om the edges.
I don't blame not wanted to see you can't unsee what these monsters did. How could anyone do this to her. I was crying badly it hard to explain why.
@@lizzeyflower Thank you very much. I'm glad i read this after sleeping because now i cant get the image out my head. That's horrifying and i can't imagine the pain of being stuck there, let alone being stuck there for 12 years.
What I’m thinking is that she faced abuse in the home due to her autism and suffered a trauma so severe it made her catatonic. It couldn’t be locked in syndrome since she moved herself in order to eat the couch cushioning.
It's possible they force fed her pieces of the cushion themselves, but your theory about her not having locked in syndrome sounds very likely considering there were claw marks on the sofa, which means that the poor girl probably tried to get up from the couch but was unable to for some reason.
I imagine weakness from malnutrition made it difficult to move.🙁
I'm leaning towards this theory as well. Maybe they didn't want to outright kill her so they let neglected her until she died on her own.
It’s possible that they fed her the couch cushion smh 😢
@@Noa_Lynnhow though? She wouldn’t have been able to swallow if she had LIS, so they would have had to somehow push the cushion all the way to her stomach.
As a parent, I could never let my child get anywhere near what happened to Lacey. I feel like a bad mom if my kid has a completely normal diaper rash, I can't bear to see her hurting. She doesn't have to tell me she's hurting, I see it when I look at her if she is. No excuses for these sad excuses of humans
I lived in the surrounding area of Slaughter for 30+ years and honestly I believe that they were ashamed of her disability and took her out of society because they were so popular in their community and tortured her for being different and I don’t take SA out of the equation 😢
I once cry because my baby had a very bad diaper rash due to acidic diarrhea due to antibiotics 😭 I had no choice because he had an infection and I regularly change his nappies but it still happen. I totally get you Mama. And I feel horrified hearing this case I was about to vomit when she was telling it 😱
@@kellymcclendon2162 as someone who spent their early childhood in the south, it’s very sad to me that I see this as the most likely explanation. So many of these towns where reputation is everything completely disregard the safety and needs of the vulnerable for the sake of what their neighbors think of them.
@@knnorman3855 My mom had a similar problem, but we later discovered that it is actually due to acidic foods. The simple explanation is that my body is naturally acidic, so eating acidic foods pushed my body over that limit and essentially gives me UTI symptoms. I thought I would mention it just in case it could be something you would want to observe or look into for you child.
I agree 1,000,000%! A diaper rash, stubbed, toe, splinter, whatever, you’re just there for your baby no matter how old your baby is. What monsters. What absolutely horrifically sick monsters.
I just want to say, I’m a nurse and your medical descriptions were spot on. You perfectly described everything is layman’s terms.
Do you think its c1tatonia?
Shocked ‘RN’ isn’t at the end of your username which so many US nurses do. Its drives me nuts, there are millions of nurses around the world, but only US nurses seem to always want to add RN in their username. If they only knew how other nationality nurses laugh at them for doing this 🤦🏻♀️ Good on you for not doing that. Makes a pleasant change. 👍
Both of Lacey’s parents had jobs responsible jobs that made them well-known in the community. They didn’t take Lacey in for medical assistance because they’d hoped she’d die quickly, but when she held on and started withering away, they knew they’d be held criminally responsible for letting her get to this state.
I suspect you're right
Exactly what I think....😢
She was a fighter. And the fact she lasted as long as she did shows just how strong her spirit is. If she suffered from agoraphobia or any mental disorder that caused this situation to occur, she would've died a long time ago. This is someone who is fighting for her life and consciously deciding everyday to not give up. And it angers me that people see her as the perp and not the victim. We have lost our humanity to see this as anything but murder.
That makes sense.
I totally agree that’s what I was thinking
My husband has COPD, and 3 times he was put on a ventilator. I never left his side. I would be the one who bathed him, brushed his teeth and washed his face, shaved him, helped change his sheets. Even when he poo'ed, I was the one who cleaned him. I wanted him to have his dignity. Even though he was in a medically induced coma, I wanted him to know I was there. I would read to him and talk with him even though he couldn't talk back. Thankfully he is doing ok now and he's still with me.
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God bless you ❤
It does help us survive. I was in a coma and I know the love and care I was given are why I had the strength to survive.
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@@zxyatiywariii8 Amen. That's beautiful. I'm glad you are still here. Hope you are doing better now 🙏🏼
"He's still with me" I mean who wouldn't be yr a fucking Saint in this world 😭❤️
Once Lacey started showing signs of not wanting to get up or not being able to, her parents should have picked her up, put her in the car, and taken her to the ER. Even if she didnt have insurance, they would have given her care. And if she needed to be in a facility, all they had to do was apply for government insurance to cover it. I used to work in group homes with people who had disabilities. Their insurance was paying for it. These monsters neglected their child. I dont care if she had a mental issue causing her to stay in one spot, her parents have eyes. They can see something isnt right and she needs help. No excuses for this. They failed her. They need to be locked away until they have to leave in pine boxes. Sickening. If either of my kids are acting off and I feel its a medical issue, I take them to the doctor, urgent care, or the ER. Its not difficult to do, especially for parents who have the means to provide care. I assume they had at least one car. And if there is an issue with that, you can call for an ambulance. And if they didnt want to do that, then ask someone in the community. Small town equals small town mentality. Neighbors help neighbors. These are a disgusting excuse for parents and a horrible excuse for humans.
Fully agree!!!!
Not to mention, the parents had NOSES!
They did this to her on purpose. I don't think she had locked in syndrome either.She wouldn't of been able to eat couch foam. I think she was too weak,scared,in pain,& fused to the couch and couldn't move because of it. They did this to her by choice:(
Right. The hospital would’ve still seen her and just billed her later if she didn’t have insurance. But she def could’ve gotten free government insurance based on the fact she had a disability. It’s so sad 😢
The thing that absolutely gets me fucked up is that they would have smelled her rotting in her feces all those years in their living room. No one mentions this and it drives me nuts, but they were ABSOLUTELY intentionally punishing her for her "laziness." They endured the smell of feces and rotting flesh so that she would have to as well. You can tell by what they said about her, too.
I just cannot understand how you could go about your daily life, walking past her every day, and do nothing. I would even understand putting her out of her misery and burying her in the backyard before this. It is the most insidious, sadistic thing I can imagine. It goes beyond neglect. Investigators, people whose entire job comprises of witnessing some of the worst tragedies, stated they couldn’t eat or sleep due to the mental distress of seeing what state Lacey ‘lived’ in. Clay and Shiela are inconceivably evil.
You know it's bad when even the people who're used to seeing dead bodies as their job are in distress about it.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school, followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
This case makes me sick to my stomach. There’s no excuse. It was blatant torture. If we saw someone suffering like Lacy even if it’s a total stranger, it’s in human nature to want to help, let alone your literal child!! And for 12 years??! It’s obvious they wanted her to suffer. I hope they get the heaviest sentence, RIP Lacy😢
This and the Kaylrieh Titford case are both horrifying
@@habibio4085I haven’t even heard of that. I’ll have to look it up!
Tbh, I can easily see my mum being capable of doing that to me. My dad would never dare to stand up to her, he gets ab*sed daily by her for the smallest things.
the parents are now sentenced to 40 years for manslaughter
OMG I’M SO GLAD YOU’VE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS CASE, it’s so sad that people actually act this way thank you for making this video!
@NotVille_you will never be as good as steph!!!!
@NotVille_what are you on about
@NotVille_what is bro yapping about
You're the one I saw asking, I thought it was a good idea too
I fell sick to my stomach HOW COULD THESE TERRIBLE HUMAN BEINGS. Let their child to rot visibly for 12 YEARS. Then accuse their child of being lazy and still walking on grass have a roof.. Im sick. I have lost my appetite
When I was 16 I developed agoraphobia, and I was really lucky because my parents forced me out of the house kicking and screaming thinking I was going to die. They rushed me to the local behavioral hospital where we found out that it developed because I was having extreme anxiety and panic disorder. at the time this was considered a “new concept” that teenagers could have anxiety disorder not just adults. It breaks my heart that Lacey’s parents didn’t do more for her.
They killed her, it's not a matter of doing more lmao, there isn't even any picture of her besides the school one !
They left her there even when she was rotting but still alive. Not to mention going on vacations. Those people are demons and left her there on purpose
i had severe agoraphobia too and i was unable to go out, i was put on serotonin which helped me a lot and i’m completely cured today (and now i looove social interaction!!)
I have extreme social phobia , I am afraid of people but also open spaces , its very hard but you have to force yourself to go out at least once a day , I have very good psychatrist and therapeut who help me with that , i spend at least 3 hours a day outside no matter how hard it is , I dont go to places where there are a lot of people but i at least walk in forrest and in the beach
I suffer with agoraphobia and I've not left the house since I had my last child in 2021
As someone who has extreme depression, OCD, and ADHD/*possible* autism, when I started not taking care of myself, and my room became a literal garbage dumpster, when my mom walked into my room and saw the state of it her first thought was to immediately help me clean it. She isn't perfect, it took several years after that to get the help I needed, but I will always remember my mom washing the clothes that had been seeping on the floor for months, helping me throw away the rotting, moldy, and hazardous garbage. She washed my sheets, she taught me how to properly vacuum up carpet that hadn't been done in months. She helped me reorganize my closet. I hadn't seen the floor in like a year. It was amazing. Those parents deserve everything they get. I hope they rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
The fact, to me anyway, that Lacy had bedsores and all these complications for so long, says to me she actually had a lot of will to live. She held on for over a decade probably waiting for love or help. I'm crying so much rn. Please God may she finally rest in peace.
Dam, I hate wearing pads cause they irritate me sometimes! I couldn't imagine having to deal with that for 12 years!!
My first thought when i heard about Lacey’s death was that her parents were trying to cover up a nefarious secret like sexual assault. Especially now that you’ve mentioned all the resources their town has i’m sure they would have had district nurses or home help who would have made daily visits to their home to help care for her from the very beginning. I also think given the town is so small, following Lacey’s parents visit to Dr Bickham he should have made a house call to address their “concerns” and check on Lacey’s wellbeing or at least send another health professional to follow up on it. Why did nothing ever come of that?!
I thought the same thing regarding Bickham. Didn't he ever hear of "wellness checks". They are done in person at the residence of the person being checked on. Lacey was definitely not well and needed treatment. At least social services should have been notified. The parents social and political status probably stopped others from doing their due diligence. Their "get out of jail" free card is now expired along with poor Lacey. If there is any justice, they will be spending the rest of their miserable lives in prison, provided some parent inmate doesn't help them out of prison the hard way.
-dave
her mentioning that lacey's top was pulled above her chest made me really unsettled
@@dgwachtelalso have her on a hospital bed.
Yep, if he had, she could possibly still be alive
Yea or they could have been selling her body to people that came over. T r @ff icking
The Fletchers pled guilty to manslaughter! Prosecutors want the maximum that can give. My dad called me at work to tell me yesterday! We were sure they would get off! We are glad they aren’t getting off completely! Most of us in Slaughter figured with their connections they would walk away from this!
Did they explain why they done such a disgusting thing not that there can ever be a reason but I’m just so confused
It's despicable. That's all they got. Thank you for updating.
@@peppariddle6897 Not that I know of.
@@michellejarvis2127 It should have been more, but with their connections, we were sure they would walk.
@@justbreathefool There is always the chance of getting out on parole. I’m not sure how they determine when they are eligible for parole. I would hope they serve the whole thing.
I've witnessed bed sores with my bed ridden grandma and an uncle. It broke my heart seeing the wound and I cried almost everytime I had to clean her wound. Thank you for spreading the awareness❤
As someone with autism, I really appreciate you linking all of these resources. Lacey didn’t deserve any of this. It’s so awful her life was taken like this. Thanks For covering this case with such empathy Steph ❤
the fact that nobody asked LMAO@NotVille_
@NotVille_ Why u spamming? could u at least dedicate ur time for something better than spamming and trolling unless if ur a bot.
Edit: if u are a bot I hope UA-cam terminates and bans your account.
@NotVille_what videos are on your channel…I don’t see any
@@javia8977 it's a bot prolly js the best to report it
@NotVille_ funny how you feel the need to prove your channel by attacking a UA-camr who is doing well for themselves. Sounds kinda like jealousy if you ask me
Once had a patient who apparently because of anger with his wife, refused to get off the couch. Was there for several years before he was eventually removed and brought to the hospital. The fabric was a plaid synthetic material and had fused to parts of his skin. His back was also covered with a nasty mold. With extensive wound care and skin care he did actually recover. He was severely obese when admitted. About 18 months later he walked out the door.. no longer even overweight and healthy skin. The smell was absolutely horrendous. We'd have to put globs of Vick's salve inside our masks to keep from vomiting from the smell he had when attempting to treat the mold and bed sores.
That’s crazy!! All because he was mad at his wife?!
Thatll show her!
@@bradherman9707show her what?
@@Mina-nv9xc it's a figure of speech. He taught his wife a "lesson" by hurting himself. Sarcasm ya know?
@@bradherman9707 Ohh
I have a comment here. I have a muscle autoimmune disease. Most people aren't diagnosed until they end up in a wheel chair. I was called lazy so many times. I actually collapsed one day on a couch and I couldn't get up. When I finally screamed that I needed to go to the ER (I was being called lazy and stupid before I started screaming) my muscles were being damaged so badly I ended up with rhabdomyolysis (body was killing muscles instead of healing them as simple as I can put it). I was tested for drugs, stds, and heavy metal poisoning before being tested for an autoimmune. At 39 I still have problems getting off the floor. The entire time leading up to this episode I kept getting more and more weak. I was still in contact with my friends, I was still going out, until one day I just physically couldn't.
Please take care of yourself
I'm so sorry no one believed you. I've been there. I have fibromyalsa but no where near what you went through. I pray you have ppl loving and helping you. 😊
Yikes! Do you have help now?
I'm so sorry, I was accused of the worst things too because of musculoskeletal conditions and you never forget people who treated you as if you were just lazy or wanted drugs so you could have some relief from the nonstop pain.
I still don't talk to my sister, instead of trying to help or believing me, she tried to have my sons taken from me.
And when I was totally vindicated, I now have 16 screws in my back, and am disabled, she acted like she didn't try to ruin my life or kick me when I was down. She acts like I'm the unreasonable one for not talking to her now.
I believe in Karma, as soon as her daughters were able, they moved out, one went thousands of miles away. She was made to get rid of her baby at 16 that she wanted so my sister wouldn't look like a bad mother. That's after my sister left her 15 yr old daughters bf sleep over. 🙄
I cannot stand a hypocrite.
But worse, forcing your child to get rid of her own child, my sister's grandchild, to save face, when her daughter very much wanted the child and so did the bf.
I want grandkids so bad, I would have taken care of it or left my niece move in with me and keep it. No one in the family would have given her grief. We would have loved that baby like any baby. So the only reason was because in her mind, people would think she was a bad mother for allowing the bf to sleep over. And I guess the girls dad wouldn't have been happy at all but she pushed him out, lied and said he was abusive.
I will stop but yeah, she's always been the kind to never take responsibility when she can blame someone else. She's 55 and still blames others for her own actions.
I hope you have all the help and support you need. ❤
I have a reoccurring nightmare where my legs suddenly stop working and I can’t walk anymore and the people around me think I’m just being dramatic. My muscles continue to get weaker to where I can’t even hold a pencil. Your real life affliction is my literal nightmare. I am so incredibly sorry. My heart goes out to you. I am sending as much hope and positivity your way as I can.
As an inpatient hospitalist medical provider, I just wanted to commend you on your research and dedication to anatomical/medical accuracy.. so far I have absolutely loved ( and particularly enjoy the format of) everything rotten mango puts out..
as a medical provider it’s so incredible to hear your perspective (and particularly in retrospect) with accurate and appropriate terminology, etc. but ultimately my favorite thing about your platform is that it is 100% for the betterment of all of us. so not only can I learn to be a better medical provider from listening to your podcast, but I can also learn to be a better advocate for survivors and whether intentionally or unintentionally, I can learn to maybe, possibly, hopefully survive scenarios I could never anticipate.
Please never stop, you are the type of platform that will change the world .
The fact that she had maggots, had parts of the cushion in her stomach, was fused to the couch. She was literally rotting from the inside out. And yet they didn't smell her, didn't care as they took pictures of the Christmas tree as Lacey was there. The whole time. It's mind boggling.
Timestamp of the picture with the tree?
@PeashooterGuy 13:05 I think
They left her there for 12 years
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
Lacey living like that for 12 years is unimaginable. My soul is screaming hearing this story. The smell of rotting flesh.... unless you've smelt it, you don't understand. There's no way this was manslaughter. Manslaughter is pushing someone into a pool and they die from like hitting their head or drowning. You had no intention of killing them, but you were aware what you were doing was potentially dangerous. I can't imagine, as a human being, how you walk past someone covered in feces and maggots, and just ignore it. Let alone that it's my child and she's sitting there practically naked. I can't wrap my head around this. I have dealt with plenty of difficult patients. Ones so bad, you had to layer up because they would throw poop at you. We still got them cleaned up. There's absolutely no excuse for this. My blood is boiling.....
I can't even.
My skin crawls every time I hear about this horrible case.
And wouldn't everything in that house be tainted with the smell? I can't imagine the parents leaving the house and their clothes not having a stench on them. How people didn't notice is just sad.
My sister was a nurse when I was around 12 years old, I used to go hang out with her on a weekend or for a week or 2 when school was out for summer. She worked in a nursing home and had a crazy schedule when it came to her shifts, so sometimes she take me along, if she was on nights...I liked visiting with some of those nice old people, some had no families or anything so I'd do that while she did her nursing thing. I'd help her turn people in their beds, so she could clean them up and I couldn't imagine letting anyone sit in that mess for an hour, never mind years.
And yes, there were difficult patients there, too. But those are everywhere.
I agree my friend. This is heartbreaking. Those parents are nothing short of evil. I couldn't imagine in my wildest nightmare watching my baby girl in such a horrible condition. Bullshit they were feeding her. Absolutely abhorrent
This was from years ago you’re just hearing it now?
@6Haunted-Days There were no commentaries addressing time period hearing about this case. Who cares when? Is there some award I'm not aware of deeming people the first to sit on yt all day to initially hear a case? How sophomoric.
Agree! This is first degree murder!!! They weren't even talking about her... Nobody will just sit in an uncomfortable position like that because they choose too and if a person is bedridden it is a parents or a caretakers job to move their body every 2 hours, it is a lot of work but when you truely love someone you won't be able to watch them decay... This is so extremely sad, they could've put her in the system, asked any of the relatives or even the neighbours to take care of her, my parents would've taken care of her FOR FREE! Her parents aren't human, they are just monsters 😢
I've heard of this case before. The fear she felt must've been excruciating, can't ever imagine being neglected for 12 years and not being able to do anything about it til it's too late.
Her death was definitely a years long process. Couldn’t imagine dying so slowly
@NotVille_ get a life
Ok? But who cares@NotVille_
@NotVille_ what vids I don't see any?? 😂
@NotVille_dude, YOU CAN’T even put effort into A COMMENT..LOL who are you to judge and troll.. what a joke.. but seriously you are one of these clearly deranged people.. ..
neglect doesnt border on abuse, it is abuse.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
On the feces part of it, there is an extreme case called rectal vomiting, where, essentially your intestines get so backed up with feces that you throw it up or your intestines are so inflamed that you throw up feces, and if it was in her ears, and not her nose that means that it was either so bad that it shot straight past her sinuses, or it was so hard from the lack of water that it was just pushing into her ears.
All of this is so horrific to even imagine.
It's called fecal vomiting, but the feces does not make it to your ears and this condition is fatal if left untreated.
@manedlioness7016 How would you explain the sofa foam in her stomach then?
@@pepojordan73that’s not something the human body can actually digest. So it just stayed in her stomach, stuck.
@@pepojordan73 she was either eating it or it fused with her organs as her back flesh started to melt. Im not saying she didnt eat her own feces im just saying if she did she prolly also had rectal vomiting explaining it being in her ears. Bc eating shit would prolly give u rectal vomiting
another thing to think about: she was 36 when she died, meaning she was around 24 when she first sat on that couch, give or take a few years. the parents have no excuse of “she’s a lazy teenager.” it had been five whole years since she was numerically a teenager (19) and seven years since she was - in my opinion - a “true” teenager (17). they had to have known something was up.
I personally think that the parents wanted her to die. Idk why but I feel it has something to do with the parents' mental health
@@Definitely_Kay_Kay what horrible people they are. I can’t imagine wishing death on your own child.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
I'm autistic, and I just wanted to say:
1. Thank you so, so much for being so respectful with what terms you use (I rarely see people use the term "high or low support needs" outside of my own therapist) and how you addressed what autistic people had to deal with, as well as how it's absolute bullshit that people tried to pin so much on the fact Lacey was autistic
2. I think there were a couple reasons why the media kept bringing it up. They probably wanted to use autism as a sort of buzzword and further sensationalize the case, for one. Additionally, I think they wanted to pin a lot of it on the autism to further villanize ASD (listen, ASD sucks ass, but to treat it like it's this sort of killer disease is so fucking frustrating), or maybe even make it seem like the parents weren't necessarily to blame, because I've unfortunately seen a few true crime cases where parents will "mercy kill" or attempt to "mercy kill" their autistic kids, and part of the public sides with the parents. Either way, it's because they don't see autistic people as human
3. Obviously not every autistic person is alike, but I know that as far as myself as well as my autistic friends, we are RIDICULOUSLY fidgety and find it so hard to stay completely still for long periods of time. Even if we're having a panic attack, we'll often do self soothing behavior like rocking back and forth or rubbing our arms. I'm calling bullshit on her autism being to blame for why she stayed put.
Oh 100% on 2, ASD is always used to almost justify the things that happen to us autistic people. Bc we're not seen as part of society, we're not even seen as complete/fulfilled human beings by many so we 'deserve' to be treated as lesser or we just ask for it by behaving 'weird'. It's also used as an excuse to silence us (bc we supposedly could never know what's best for ourselves or what we need) and paint our words as untrustworthy, putting us at an even higher risk of abuse/neglect.
Media's demonisations of ASD and other disorders like OCD, BPD or schizophrenia etc always result in more harm to the people who are already struggling to get help or just trying to live life.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
My sister was lacey's childhood friend i saw her one time and she was so beautifull but we moved when she was 5 and this is so painfull to hear rn
WHAT FR?
I’m so sorry ❤
Almost wish she didn’t have the maggots. Maybe without the maggots eating away the dead flesh, she would have developed sepsis much earlier and it would have saved her from 12-15 years of torture. I cannot fathom how this much evil was able to occur. I am so sorry Lacey.
I know. Ugh its heartbreaking 💔 poor sweet girl.
I mean, if you're gunna wish for something maybe wish for her parents to not abuse and neglect her?
@@SjofnBM1989 okay but clearly that already happened. So with common sense, the next thing to wish for is for her suffering to not last more than a decade. Obviously we would all wish for her to never be abused and neglected.
@@SjofnBM1989what a idiot
I’m hoping that she just disassociated from the situation and couldn’t remember or process new information. Since we don’t know what happened to her mentally, that could’ve been the case. 😢
So you're telling me no one literally NO ONE visited their house in those 12 years??? And that's a town where everyone's so close and shit?? Lacey wasn't even 'stuck' in her bedroom, it was literally THE LIVING ROOM!!! Nothing makes sense!!
Right
Who paid the bills?
exactly that's what i've been thinking too there aint no way no one visited the house for a damn moment in the 12 years and no even smelled anything wrong? and suddenly there was just one neighbour who saw lacey in the couch through the window after literally like her death?? and nothing happened for 12 years to even know the existence of poor lacey?
I recommend watching the video Dreading made about her. I believe he said that the parents claimed that she moved out or went (back?) to collage
Agreed!!
This case is so baffling to me. Did they just not ever have visitors in those 12 years? No friends, family, no one?
Maybe she was locked in- in a room where nobody can go in 😢
@@jasiperroni1421she was in the living room
Right? How do they not carry the smell with them?
@@jasiperroni1421Did you see the sofa photos? She melted into it? The sofa finally gave way from being used as a 24 hour prison cell and bathroom for the lady who was never moved. 12 years of lying in one spot caused maggots to live inside her horrific wounds. No, they didn't have friends over!
@@jacquelynskye295That's horrifying that's what I wonder too why didn't any family or anybody check up on this girl. Seems like I'm just not understanding why they even had a child to begin with or why they even raised her because they are horrific people
I'm less than a third of the way through this but I'm already confused about how a couple / family could be "well respected in the community" yet never have anyone over to their living room. It makes me wonder what I'm missing. Were there other community members who were complicit? Did the Fletchers have some air of unapproachability? Did they socialize exclusively in shared spaces like church halls or event centers?
How did she survive like this for so many years? I would have imagined she could have had the infection travel to her blood stream and caused sepsis within days, maybe months but years? This is the worst case of torture I have ever heard. 😭
I can't believe she lived that long so horrifying .
It was literally hell on earth for her. I can’t even understand what would compel someone to do this to any human or ANIMAL let alone your only child. They are true sadists and I agree, with you 100%
I’m actually surprised that UA-cam didn’t delete your comment. Anytime I type the word torture the comment gets deleted almost immediately.
Might have had something to do with the Maggots? They eat away all the dead and infectious tissues, perhaps they were actually cleaning her wounds so that maybe stopped her getting infections? Until the very end. I think the woman in the video did say at the end that Lacey had an infection. I can’t remember.
Really??
Try researching Unit 731
how do you see literal BONES coming out of someone and NOT think to take them to a doctor/call a doctor over? Her parents are absolutely responsible and I hope Lacey gets to play sports and move in peace
What? She didn’t die?
@@clevelandplonsey7480she did die
@@clevelandplonsey7480 in the after life
@@clevelandplonsey7480 Maybe in heaven? Idk why they said sports either.
I'm assuming bc she walked and exercised is why they said that
They are so disgusting. How can you let your child rot away like that? Let alone a HUMAN! Even an animal. This is unbelievable
This case happened 40 minutes from my childhood home. Literally haunting.
that must be some awful information to have to live with@@seaurchinted
I could not stand to see an animal like this let alone a human. Very heartbreaking.
@@seaurchinted u must have been scared I would be horrified that happened
Like line Stephanie said from the court case about the vet
Locked in syndrome scares the shit out of me. Sometimes i get sleep paralysis and cant move or talk. To be trapped like that for a long period of time would be hellish.
I mean, for a community that small and tight-knit how did nobody ever not go to their house and see her for twelve years when the parents were such prominent figures? It's so crazy to me...
i think they knew.
just the smell... how could they possibly not notice the smell?.....
That's a good point, & with the smell, even a person knocking on the door should have been able to smell it.
@@massivel that's such a disturbing and scary thing to process if it's true...
I was thinking the same thing! It's like seriously you're prominent figures in your town and NOBODY comes to see you in 12 years?!
I’ve been around decaying bodies, the smell sticks in your clothes, your hair, everything. It’s hard to believe that the so-called parents wouldn’t have a stench on them. Even while she was still alive there sadly would have been an undeniable smell. This case makes me so angry, there’s zero excuse for what happened to Lacey.
What’s your job?
Exactly, it's so foul idk how neighbors didn't smell this. I'm a disabled RN and I had patients with gangrene, I could smell it before I even knocked on the door, when I did home health. It's just not something you can describe to others who haven't smelled it.
If you ever smelled a dying, or dead decaying animal, that would be close, but not exact. I think human decay smells worse.
Poor Lacey, there's no punishment to equal that heII.
That's what I was thinking... how, how did no one question them. Another thing with small towns such as this is everyone is in each other's business.
@@britzel71 The explanation is simple. Everyone around them was satanic too. Church, everyone in the so called church, their family, their neighbors.
@@britzel71 Exactly, and the doctor, when her parents informed him that she was no longer leaving the couch... Why didn't he go check on her and/or call an ambulance for her? Why isn't he being charged with medical neglect or something? If he knew she was stuck on the couch and did nothing about it, then he's culpable as well. (edit) I'm so appalled at all of them. Wtf is wrong with these people?
A client of mine had an brain aneurysm after giving birth. She could hear everything and the doctor said “she’d be a vegetable” she thought she’d prove him wrong. She’s living well as a successful children’s author.
Wow what is her name??
What's her name
what’s her name ?
Love this! What’s the name of her book?
Lmao bullshitter
My bffs grandmother was a locked in patient for many many years! She had her a tv, audio books, music, etc with full time care at home, the nurses were always nice, song to her and she was always surrounded by loved one but it still messed me up pretty badly. i always had sleep paralysis as kid (still do but its rare) and it felt like everytime i saw how completely helpless she was, I just felt helpless for her like i needed to do something but i couldn't. I felt like i was in the panic of sleep paralysis again. I couldnt stop imagining what it must be like.
I suffer from episodes of it still and it's the scariest thing I've ever experienced.
Thank you for representing autism in such a kind and empathetic manner. Me and my brother are autistic and should be viewed just as capable of full and fulfilling lives like everyone else because we definitely are. Accommodations and education are so very important for autistic and neurodivergent people.
I got in trouble at work for taking aside an autistic person and telling them that they did have to try being on time. If it helps you be on time I'll message you as you adjust your routine. I got written up for harassment by a co-worker who isn't neurodivergent. I privately messaged them anyway until they told me that got the routine down.
@@RayF6126 You did the right thing. Your co-worker is a bit of a cunt though, although you obviously already know that :P
Amen sweetheart
@@RayF6126what are you yapping about
@@KingOfGaymesthey saying they helped their autistic coworker adapt to the work environment. They didn’t coddle them.
TW: Gross TMI
At the end of 2022 I developed an abscess. Antibiotics didn't work & I eventually became septic & necrotic. It ended up being a wound the depth & diameter of my fist (Rushed to hospital & emergency surgery etc mere hours from death) It took my poor parents several days whilst I was hospitalised, to air the smell of that necrosis out of the flat. It stuck in our noses for a while. It was by far the worst thing any of us have ever smelt to this day. And... Just a wound of that size, dead, black flesh sloughing off in my hands was one of the most painful experiences of my life. My heart breaks for this poor girl. Horrific.
Damn, I hope you are fully recovered now.
@@BubblesBulldog It took several months to fully recover but yeah 🙂 I'm all good now, thank you 🖤
@@ParanoidAndroid89so glad ur doing better! So sorry this happened to you.. s/o to your parents for taking care of you! Wish this lovely young lady got the same treatment but sadly we know how her story ends 🥺
@@dabest444u Thank you 🖤 My parents are incredible. I have a lot of issues that render me incapable of taking care of myself like a normal 35 Y/O & they go far beyond what should ever be expected of them to make my life comfortable. I appreciate them more than words can express.
I can't imagine how much pain she must have been in, both mentally & physically & the knowledge that her "parents" completely neglected her is completely heartbreaking. It's amazing that she survived as long as she did but somehow that makes it feel even worse to think about the insane level of agony she must have been in with massive, festering & necrotising wounds & it probably goes to show just how long she was in this state considering that they were living normally amongst what is a POTENT smell. They clearly became nose blind to it. These scumbags deserve to experience exactly what they let their daughter endure for so long. It's sickening.
😮😮😮 Necrosis is too scary and painful. I didn't know that an abscess would lead to necrosis. Can you tell me how to prevent it? because recently my sister developed an abscess which was drained and antibiotics were administered to her orally and topically. It did subside but she has developed another abscess. I'm worried it might turn necrotic. Can you give any advice?
The story you tell of locked in syndrome makes me realize how important it is for me as a healthcare worker to be even more mindful than i currently am of how important it is to talk to the patients. Im going to be a CNA and my goal is to work in a hospital. I've been working in a nursing home for over a year now and really do try to always tell the patient what im doing so that i dont startle anyone while doing more intimate care. I always try to think of how i would want to be treated if i had dementia for example. It must feel horrible and like constant assault to not know what is happening.
I send you so much luck and good will
@@keropi193 this really made my day today, Thank you ❤️. I try to always think of how we need to treat other like we would want to be treated if put in a similar (often vulnerable) situation. Unfortunately that is not always common sense to all people in the medical field
God bless you. I hope you do everything you intend you to 😭🤞🏽
My mom suffered from being locked in from a stroke for about a year. She still can’t speak , but I always wonder what she was thinking about, what she had to say, what she remembered from all of this. I can’t wait to hear hear response to all of this one day soon. Hearing you go in detail sheds light on what she’s probably thinking.
I was genuinely dreading watching another video with an autistic victim, but you went above and beyond with your empathy and explanations. You've actually gone out of your way to learn all the preferred terms and real autistic history and it is wonderful. Thank you so much, Stephanie.
This!
as opposed to... non-genuinely? why even tell us if you're being genuine or not? does that mean you normally are not genuine, but make an exception and have to tell us when you are?
@@housemanait's not that deep
@@housemanacalm down
@@housemana it's used for emphasis, similar to the word literally. if you google the definition of genuinely, the first definition is "truthfully" but the second is "to the fullest degree." this person left a really thoughtful comment highlighting the importance of empathetic and well-researched autism representation, and you *genuinely* chose to focus on a word that wasn't even used incorrectly?
Literally EVERYONE in that jury will need psychological counselling after that.
My gut feeling is that her anxiety was the reason she was pulled out of school. But then her parents slowly stopped caring for her. They slowly withdrew from playing “parents” and barely met her base needs. Over time she just became a job. Like putting seed in the birdcage. It’s heartbreaking. Her parents deserve to be prosecuted. They failed her terribly.
I guess there was also a stage when they knew if they took her to a doctor they would be held accountable for (child) neglect. Lacy became a threat to their treasured role in the community.
I think behavioral issues or anxiety were involved in sequestering her yes. But what think happened is the father (or mother or both) sexually abused her. They probably kept her there hoping she would be too ill or mentally ruined to report. Or maybe they were hoping her autism coupled with PTSD and anxiety and depression would become so severe to lead her to be incapable of reporting.
This conservative Republican Christian father probably SAed her. The only food she could have was probably earned through sex acts. When she got too dirty/repulsive they probably did tie her up or torture her in any other way you can think. The mom probably purposefully denied the truth or physically/emotionally tortured the girl for “taking her husband.” The way conservative Republican Christian women can go in a patriarchal system can cause the victim blaming to be so extreme she probably called her daughter a whore and punished her. When this young woman was still bedbound and unable to stand for all we know they even prostituted her.
I hope she rest in peçe poor girl😢
@@katjathefranknfurter2374The thing is, when she started going downhill ( she wasnt too bad before, neighbours saw her outside occasionally etc) why did they just give up. Too tight to pay for at home carers who would make sure at least she washed & ate, while they looked at permanent care in a facility because they werent coping? Many people have severely disabled children at home but it doesnt come to this. In the UK you can get respite care where the person go to a unit for a few days when you reach burnout or if you cant cope.
Still doesn’t clarify how she was in the same position, legs crossed for 12 whole years
She was so beautiful. My daughter has autism, it is a part of the amazing person she is. All we see is an amazing girl who makes everyday better. She doesn't like people to be upset . She smiles and sings so she shines ✨️ and it is contagious.
Asperger's syndrome will never cause paralysis. People with this condition often become neurosurgeons with Phd due to their extreme knowledge-seeking behavior and OCD. Perhaps they overdosed her when she was old enough to speak up for herself. Maybe they sexually molested her, and at age 16, she was mature enough to want to seek help, so they isolated her. They continued molesting her up to age 24, starving her and mentally torturing her until she eventually just closed off. The parents were seemingly well-reasoned people; both worked and cared for others. Additionally, the mother repeatedly lied during interrogation about feeding her. All the torture was purposefully done. A witness said the girl was very slim but continued to exercise with dumbbells, and her mother persistently told her how not enough she was, which increased her social anxiety and undermined her self-confidence. These are standard methods used by malicious individuals to exert full control over the victim's body and mind. She monitored her mother’s care via CCTV, not out of concern, but to maintain control. Mother was just a bag of demons no human. Blaming the victims is also standard behaviour of those kind of walking vermin. Mother just took huge pleasure seeing her daughter wasting away.
I am a nurse in the neuro stepdown unit at the Cleveland Clinic. Though locked in is very rare I have quite a bit of experience with it. In a neuro unit, we are expected to do neuro exams multiple times a shift, sometimes even hourly. If you are properly accommodating for your patient, It only takes one good neuro exam to figure out if your patient is locked in (though technically I cannot diagnose it). It is often missed by nurses and doctors alike. I distinctly remember my first locked in case, because I was the one to first suspect the patient was locked in. Even with severe full body paralysis, eye movement is usually preserved for anatomical reasons I won't get into. In this patients case, I had to hold her eyes open and then ask her to do things with her eyes. First it was just look to the left, look to the right, but I was shocked and horrified to find that as I made the commands more and more complex, she still was able to follow. Even among neuro specialists it can be hard to remember to treat this population as competent. My rule of thumb is to always treat the patients as competent, even if I am sure they are not. Why not sing to them, tell them stories, tell them about the weather, the news, or even juicy gossip? If they appreciate it, I am sure they extremely appreciate it. And if they can't hear it, that doesn't hurt anything. Reach out if you ever find need for a neuro nurse's knowledge and perspective!
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You're amazing! I'm sure it makes all the difference for patients in such a heartbreaking condition. Thank you for your work!
Great work! Imagine the relief of knowing you are not alone to suffer in such a helpless state!♥️
*Edit: Howdy fellow Clevelander!-)
Is there anything you are supposed to do if this happens to you? If you can still move your eyes or blink, is there anything you can do to signal to doctors and nurses that you’re locked in or do you just have to wait and hope they test for it?
@@jessicaahhhhh As a patient with locked in syndrome can do nothing but move their eyes, they are pretty much at the mercy of caregivers. Since neuro exams would likely be a part of the treatment plan if anything traumatic happened to the brain, it seems unlikely that the condition would not be diagnosed eventually. Pretty horrific to think about, though.
An article that was posted yesterday says “The Fletchers’ defense team said the couple cared for their daughter and did not intend to hurt her.” How tf are they physically able to say that?!! I quite literally hope they rot in jail
He should NOT have been allowed to say such a thing!
they can say that all they want but their actions and their daughters DEATH clearly didn’t depict that
Defense team?? Somebody still dare to defend those beast?
@@hadli93if they get money then sadly they would do that.
@@DemiGlitch297 jeez, justice is just a work now. Money talk the talk.
i read an article about her just now and there are people sympathizing with her parents and excusing their behavior when they are the literal spawns of satan. they left her for 12 YEARS!!!! she could not physically MOVE and they knew this. she was found with covid when she died which means she was exposed to other humans and nobody helped her. it’s so so wicked. rest in peace Lacey, you deserved a much better life. it’s just not fair
They are going to get away with it. Small town. Connections. They grew up in privilege and rode it till the wheels fall off
Probably to get covid funds. If someone died falling out of a plane their cause of death would be covid.
The mother was jealous of her daughter’s intelligence, beauty and kind heart. She caused her to become paralyzed, either by overdosing her with medications or inflicting trauma to her head or spine. This was a carefully planned scheme over many years. It started with isolating her from school (falsely stating that her daughter had an autism), followed by escalating abuse. If you look at a family photo, the mother’s gaze is chilling, almost like Beelzebub staring out. Eyes are truly the windows to the soul.
My father had this happen to him after a stroke and glioblastoma cancer. He was 'trapped" for 8 months. He got progressively worse and worse. He could not talk and near the end he could not even move. He went from a talkative person to just a shell. This was 13 years ago. I loved him so much and it was a mercy when he passed.