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Shift lens comparison 2021: Canon vs Laowa vs Nikon
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- How do these three shift / tilt-shift lenses compare, if you're on the market for one?
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Laowa no doubt has fantastic value across all of their lenses. I just wish they had a slightly more expensive option that communicated exif data to the cameras. I personally don't care if the camera controls the Laowa lenses focus or aperture, but being able to get the data attached to the photos would be great. I use their 65mm macro and if I don't write down the aperture for images X to Y than I can have a hard time remembering later.
Nikon has long ways to go in TS category, charging $3.4k will only push new breed of TS shooters to other brands.
Sadly most of their lenses are priced more than other brands; hence why I go for 3rd party manufacturers now (Tamron and Sigma).
Tilt in an UWA is actually very useful in landscape photography too, and generally for putting the plane of focus exactly where you'd want it. It makes a difference also when photographign buildings from other angles then straight from the front. Tilt becomes even more important when focusing close-up, not necessarily for product photography. :)
Very nice comparison, however, and as always, great review! Thank you for that, nice to see!
BTW, these specialist lenses is one of the reasons that when I went for a dslr in 2005, I actually chose Canon. No regrets whatsoever. I owned all of the older Canon ones, and loved them, and these days I own the two shortest L ones, and the longest :). Just love them. The TS-E 17L, when I got it, was by far the sharpest lens I had ever seen.
Kindest regards, Wim
Canon TS-E 24mm vs. Samyang 24mm tilt shif, would be interesting. 😍Greetings and thanks for the video.
I would love to see Christopher review the Samyang 24TS
I would be interested as well
I can already tell you from experience the Samyang is _nowhere_ close to the Canons. It's a big shame because many of Samyang's other manual primes match or exceed Canon's equivalents, but the TS 24mm is miles behind.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 ok, thank you very much for your answer.
Samyang 24ts is garbage. forget about it.
Tilt function is just as important on a UWA as on the normals and tele’s, IMO. If you want larger DOF without stopping all the way down, or want just one side of a building in focus, you need tilt/swing.
Just a reminder that lenses can perform differently at longer focus distances than the test chart allows.
Why test at the focus distance which will be used 90% of the time? ;)
Canon tho has old TS-E versions, which are still good and updated L versions with Macro from 17mm to 135mm. If you're in tilt-shift game, Canon is a winner hands down.
Christopher Frost is (without question) the best lens reviewer on planet earth. I thank you for all of your efforts, and your reviews have guided many of my purchases.
Shift lens comparisons: really well done, thanks!
I have the Laowa 2:1 and 2.5:5 and are really solidly built and quite nice to use. The only "complaint" I have is that because they don't transmit any info to my R5, I have to depend on focus peaking (which can be hard to do depending on using blue, red, or yellow peaking color). Oh, and I have to add that these Laowa lenses come in native RF; so no adapter necessary like for my Canon MP-E65. Forgot that I also have the Laowa "probe" lens; lots of fun to use too! Well made lenses through and through!
Laowa and their blue corners ... it breaks my heart. just like the 12mm and 15mm. They make such great lenses but the blue colorscast in the edges seems to be something typical ... i love laowa but i wish they would fix it
So you'd say the Laowa is the winner when you consider the minor differences and the big price difference? Contrast can be added I guess. It's hard to buy a third party lens apart from Sigma but it's harder to fork out the cash for the Nikon 19mm!
Thanks for the review!
The laowa is pretty impressive. You always give gear a fair shakedown regardless of brand, nothing wrong with preferring on brand over another.
Had to rewatch the video on my pc. Unshifted wide open nikon was visibly sharper than the other 2. I was surprised by your conclusion.
That's nice, but shift and tilt/shift lenses are rarely used at that aperture for architecture and landscape. The minimum is f/8 for most situations.
Neat review. I picked up a used TSE24ii to play around with
This is the right decision. I also bought a used Сanon ts24 mark2.
You were very gracious in your summary to the Nikon lens. ;-)
Especially given the price there would be no reason for me to buy the lens over the other two.
Of course there's a reason, if you're a Nikon user.
@@Barefoot_Joe For the cost of the Nikon lens alone you could buy the Canon + a used 5DS R. That way even if you _only_ used the Canon for the one tilt-shift lens and never touched any other Canon gear at all, you'd still be getting better performance at a higher resolution than any Nikon camera and you won't have spent more than if you'd bought just the inferior Nikon lens. And that's if you absolutely need the tilt function, which as Christopher points out, actually isn't very useful with these super-wide lenses and is really only used with tele tilt-shifts.
The idea that someone is "a Nikon user" or "a Canon user", or any other single-manufacturer user, is not relevant when you're talking about this level of product. For casual shooters and enthusiasts on a budget who are never spending this kind of money and never getting into this sort of specialised equipment, sure, stick to one system. But if you're in the sort of position where you're seriously contemplating dropping over three grand on a single special-use lens, you don't limit your options and waste money just for the sake of maintaining some arbitrary brand loyalty. These lenses are for particular specialist working professionals; you don't get into tilt-shift work to be a brand fanboy.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 Buying a body and a lens for just one use case is only an option if you never leave your studio, or never have to walk long distances (landscape photography) to get your image. The moment I have to walk up a hill, I will not buy a camera body and a lens that is not compatible with all my other gear. Takes up a lot of space in my backpack to only be a one trick pony. I am better off buying the native lens, that only takes up 1 slot in my backpack (consider also the additional weight) and be done with it.
Has nothing to do with fanboyism.
Edit: also the image quality differences are so small between the lenses, you will not see it in any real world architecture or landscape photography.
Thanks Christopher. Excellent comparison.
Great comparison! Thank you very much!
it would be interesting how the Canon compares with the Laowa 20mm f/4 Zero-D Shift lens. What do you think about it?
Hi Chris, great and VERY useful review! Thank you.
One question: in the review you mention your individual review of the Canon and the Nikon, but I can't find them...
The reviews are coming soon
Rare review of rare lenses.
Very good results.
thanks CF
i would get the Laowa (widest, yet least distortion) .... over the other OEM lenses
Also interesting to note that the 12mm 2.8 D-Dreamer and magic shift converter could compete also.
Venus Optics paid for this video to be made so I’d assume they were only looking to get compared to canon and Nikon
@@rws531 it's their own lens and I suspect that this new 17mm combines the two.
Surprised how the Canon at close up was noticeably distorted. I have the older Laowa Shift lens and it is a good performer. I was considering the Canon for product close ups, but not when it that distorted, as product work requires tack sharp results.
for the laowa is better canon or nikon? with the d850 my impression is that my 19pc works better than mounted on z7. I have to try with the z8 or z9
Please review the rokinon tilt shift lenses
afaik, it's basically a piece garbage. Especially considering laowa.
Yeah as Igor says, the Samyang/Rokinon is absolutely awful. I don't know if they had their B-team design it or what went on, but it's way behind their other lenses. I had it and both versions of the Canon TS-E 24mm and even the mkI Canon totally destroyed the Samyang. It's not even "good for the price", it's plain bad.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 I've seen tons of images shot with that lens that are excellent. The only complaint is that the lens tends to render a slightly warm overall white balance which is easily corrected. Maybe you just had a bad copy.
i have this lens as well, it is quite poor in image quality (chromatic abberation is strong along with barrel distortion and softness), build quality is nice, aperture ring feels good and focusing works well. in general shifted images dont look that good and require lots of corrections, i got it for 450€ and wouldnt recommend
You missed usability, which is very important on tilt lenses. Knob size and the ability to adjust tilt without "dropping" the front half is a big deal.
Superb review thanks!
On the topic of shifting, if you happen to come across sony a7RIV, you could test some sharp lenses using the pixel shift option to really test the glass.
Nobody Cares about Pixel Shift for Lens Testing. During Pixel Shift some of the flaws like chromatic abberation are corrected in camera. So this test says nothing at all about the tested lens
@@airb1976 If information is lost in the lens due to chromatic aberration, then no Pixel Shift will restore it, it will only smear it like a cake on the table.
Laowa please please add exif and auto correction to your lenses! Auto-focus is even better!
The Laowa has great value.
If a lot of advertising appears in Laiowa, then you don’t need to buy it.
3:55 The Canon lens seems to be performing the worst here wide open, not the Nikon? It's a tad softer and exhibits slight CA unlike the Laowa and Nikon 🤔 (not that it matters, cause the Nikon is extremely overprized)
That's contrast you're noticing not sharpness, look at the smallest lines.
But overall I prefer the Nikon there too, most people aren't pixel peepers.
Please, Tamron 17-70 vs Sony 16-55
the nikon should be behind in the corners? i would say the canon is the weakest...maybe because i am no canon boy? and the better result at the laowa lens should be the result of the smaller range in shifting. i don't understand why you go for the max instead of the same 11mm for every lens.
to sum it up: i think this video is biased.
Plz test the Nikon Z 14-30 & Z 70-200
You missed something very affordable with a quality that fashion photographers use it. I talk about the "Lensbaby" lenses. Their shift mechanism consists of a spherical joint with freedom of movement in all directions and a ring for fastening. The range of tilt and shift angles is the widest, achievable without bellows! price range is ~ 100 to a few hundred $. They have wide angle lenses. But they also offer 50mm and light telephoto lenses.
Why that expensive canon lens?
as a nikon fanboy I'm deeply disappointed. But the review is great nevertheless.
Laowa lens can't have sun in the frame. The coating isnt as good
Christopher briefly mentions it here but he talks about it more in the individual review, if you just stop the lens down the flaring stops being a problem. Since these lenses will basically always be stopped down and have nearly no value being shot wide-open anyway, that's not really a drawback.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 I see what you mean. But the loss of contrast and saturation when composing and focusing is still annoying. Thanks for the advice though
Wow! My wife has a Z6 but that Nikon lens is a real piece of junk. And rippoff does'nt begin to cover it at well over 3k. If she wanted one, I would get an adapter and buy the Canon.
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Quite clear from this - the Nikon should be avoided. So glad that back in 2001 when I had a choice to go with Canon or Nikon, I went with Canon. They were first with an ultra WA tilt-shift and even after all these years, it wipes the floor with the Nikon; a lens that was released 7 years after the Canon!
That Nikon lens is a joke.
In real life, the 19mm is still the best GA shift lens (!)
0:05 - you say "two tilt-shift leses and one shit lense" instead of "shift"
Don't be silly
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
absolutely no mention of the difference in the maximum aperture. and that is while the cannon and nikon were looking better except for 'the most stretched' corner that was a very tiny bit behind lowa while 'the least stretched' corner on lowa was quite a bit worse than competitors, all the while center image quality was better on cannon and nikon on a Brighter maximum aperture!
talk about 'no bias' when a company 'asks' for a video.