Pro tip for good disenchanting rares, you can use the bad rares from shipping, they usually are level 86 and have high tier mods that salvage for more than the average id rare
Some stuff I learned during the first week, I'm sure more info will surface especially about shipping as these things take some time to fully figure out. Final group video next and then solo adventures begin! Thanks for watching!
If anybody is interested: - the last upgrade for the town-hall will cost you 100.000 gold, so beware - if you are trying to collect 100.000, there is a challenge that requires you to have 250.000 gold at once in your town treasury, so HOLD! - once you've completed the 250k gold challenge, you can remove 100.000 from the treasury so you can upgrade your town-hall to maximum.
@@JanDarkyy well I think once you upgrade everything and hire good workers you would have excess gold anyways so you would reach it eventually by itself.
8:50 Yeah...i didnt expect that, collected Versisium ore, turned off the smelting and went to bed. Came online and expected to have enough ore to upgrade the port...everything was bars -.-
@@Shadowalex999 The idea is good, i think the problem is to require ore in the first place, its super unintuative. Who builds stuff out of ore, instead of bars, dafuq ?!
@@dankeykang2981 Hahahaha very funny i am laughing so much ahahahaha good joke ahahaha wow you really got me rolling lololol ahahaha this is just way too funnny ahahaha
@@Empyriangaming can confirm, the ilvls of items are tied to the character you open the rewards with, but im unsure if it affects the rarity or quantity of currency
Started typing this up as Empy was talking, and he ended up discussing around the 9 minute mark. Going ahead and commenting anyway to verify it can happen, and cause the algorithm demands engagement. A big thing I learned: DO NOT OVERSMELT! Town upgrades are the most important thing and require raw ores often. I was being a newb and hiring folks for all the jobs, and happened to get some really efficient smelters. They were able to keep up with my ability to tag ores and smelted everything. I am now sitting with verisium bars but a town upgrade that needs raw verisium ore, even when I did not have any assigned to verisium. With the rarity of verisium, this is pretty painful. I'm sure eventually once I get the town upgrades, I will get to catch up some by having those bars ready so long term its not probably as big of a deal, but right now it feels like I am twiddling my thumbs waiting to get lucky so I can continue progression. I ended up making just a go-fast atlas tree that is just shrines/niko/scarabs so I can blast through and scout for ores. Its currency/hour is probably much worse than the alternatives, but I am just trying to do the best I can while I maximize ores/hour.
I'd say the first prio would be to upgrade your mine to max since you will get more ore and, more importantly, more gold for it, and then go for the townhall
@thomasrad5202 just checked If you keep leveling the miners, there is an upgrade that let's you get same amount of gold as the ore that you mine yourself in the maps
Exactly. It gets you the Same Mount of Gold es you get of ore. So depending in your setup you get ~4-8 k gold extra per map. T 16 ambush/world/shrine/niko
The multiplying value of dust seems to asymptotically approach zero as you get closer to 3x your base shipment value. In terms of dust efficiency it seems like ~2.5 is the sweet spot.
Mappers are really special and the RNG factor of running them all is huge. For example, I ran T6 maps, all full, all 100% completion and it took 2 hours. 3 of 30 maps had a div in it, and I used tools to calculate currency and it came out to 9.2 div for 2 hours, so 4.6 per hour for me.
Got my first T10 mapper, the squad failed the third 99% success map and he died. I love/hate that there's always a chance they can die, it takes a decent chunk of gold to get high tier mappers and they don't bring in much. It would be so cool if we could add 1 scarab to their maps as well to influence the kind of rewards they bring in.
8:50 I just never upgraded my smelter to be able to smelt verisium until my other buildings didn’t need it, and at this point endgame farming I find enough ore anyway
Even though Im barely at tier 16 maps its been fun, I found a Rakiatas Dance early shipping when I started mapping, even found a divine running my first maelstrom of chaos! Now Im afraid to spend them cause of how crazy the market is. 😂
at 9:00 I encountered this problem, removed verisium smelters, lost all my ores again and completely shut down the smelting part. I think it's a bug or sometihng edit: also, the ship gear rewards are insane for disenchanting. They easily disenchant for 8k+ dust, while low level mappers or even your map drops are kinda bad in comparison
Would be nice if you could do some testing or showcase of recomb crafting with dust in a follow up video and how good it is compared to sentinel league.
The dust scaling theory was that the shipment value you get from dust isn't the same as the rarity of rewards that you get from it. I see dust's diminishing impact on shipment value as a way for you to be able to dump as much dust as you want onto a shipment without guaranteeing that the cargo will be lost.
I really don't see the reason beyond the suggested upgrading priority. Gold will be a major limiting factor while upgrading the town fully and therefore rolling and sustaining top level workers will be very difficult. With lackluster workers your farms will also not output enough to make upgrading them worth it early on. If you level Miners first you will not only get more ores, but also get gold whenever you find ore passively. Also if you want to really focus on farming gold, synthesis maps drop a surprising amount of gold
@@johneboy216 juiced T17 is many times more difficult than the synthesised memory map though. It's not even cortex or uber cortex, these are monster level 81 maps that aren't harder than your usual red map. And you can do maven invitation rota with them too, which is nice added bonus. We are day seven of the league and only absolute nolife sweatypants have characters strong enough to leisurely farm juiced T17 or uber bosses. Most of us struggle and these memory maps are great solution for them.
if you progress your atlas slower than your town then you end up in a cycle of nearly always being broke with gold because the amount of gold u get in maps does not synergies with the lvl of the workers aka gold/hour and the reroll cost to hire them if ur town is high lvl, "took my time with the atlas, and ended up having to stress my ass of to sustain the gold because i was in low reds when i should have been in t16s" im sure some people can relate lol
Agree with blighted and blight-ravaged maps being awful for gold. Maybe a few thousand for a blight-ravaged map in my experience. As someone who normally plays a lot of blight it's feeling very meh this league especially with the div card nerfs from last league. Double anoints have potential but chances of getting a good one are pretty slim.
I'm struggling at the gold. My maps give me around 7-8k gold, but I would take 15 min to clear. Never before ggg made it so clear that I'm a slow player.
Oh, should have started the vid with "Welcome to my crib" Btw it's crazy how they smelt what they're not assigned to but don't mine the same way. I'd rather have that in mining than in smelting, more so given the need of ore for upgrades kek
Is there a way to add gold to the treasury from the hideout? I saw someone do it but i cant. I invited him manually, did every quest, talked with each npc but still i cant.
@@MydrecaNaPopaIt’s an account based bug, I have it too - we just have to wait for a fix, also guessing you can’t open the town interface with ”V” in Kingsmarch and don’t have a button in the bottom right corner for it either
Why do my miners don't mine? It says 0 at ore recovered and I gain no ore. Am I dumb or why do my miners don't "find" ore? Do I have to constantly run maps and discover ores?
how to sustain Gold cost as a simple 2 hours a day gaming and working man? I can do maybe 15-30 maps a day x 10k makes 150k-300k gold. If i look at 300k gold that will run my town not even 24 hours... they shoud up gold reward by 2x... i cant even trade shit nor gamble some items just because my town eats it all up
You only get out of the game what you put in. If you don't put in the time, don't expect the rewards. Let me guess, if you only played 1 hr a day, you would want the gold reward x4? And if you played 0hrs, you want infinite free gold?
If you can then do NOT take workes with more than 1 skill because they'll cost way too much compared to specialists (1 job) One metal slab is worth 5 ores
Sadly GGG doesn’t respect your wrists or Carpal Tunnel. :-/ Play Righteous Fire for relaxed 1 button playing. (Technically 3 buttons to spam Curses, Dodge, and Traps/Mines.)
@@MichaelPohoreski I did and I have to quit now.>.> You think RF is relaxing but you still have to click shield charge, frost blink , punishment and for now enduring cry. That was enough for me >.> GGG take responsibility for my blight !!111
@@TheZackzable I feel your pain. I've been playing D2 for 24 years and PoE for 11 years. My reward? Getting Carpal Tunnel. :-/ Have you looked into foot pedals? have you looked into a vertical mouse such as Anker or Logitech?
@@MichaelPohoreski Ty , tbh if I don't play Poe excessively I am good. This league I tried my good old sweaty league start with 4 -5 days of around 8 hrs a day. This was clearly too much. Back to the boring normal world it seems for me Also fun fact. It's not my mouse hand. It's the hand on the keyboard
@@TheZackzable Thanks for the info and sucks to hear PoE agitates your pain. I suspect one of the reasons your left hand is hurting is because your hand is twisted 90°. For example, stand up and let your hands fall down to your side. Now make an L shape by bending your elbow and swinging your hand out in front. Notice how your palm is vertical. Now rotate your hand clockwise and slide it to the right so it is front of you -- this causes your arm to be at a different yaw. Notice how your arm is at a weird bent shape. Have you looked at vertical split ergonomic keyboards like Kinesis so that your: * palm is more vertical? * arm is more straight instead of rotated? I too am very close to having to quite PoE for good so just trying to help you get a few last "hours".
Sort of Easter Egg: If shipment gets high jacked, you have the option to rescue it. I believe this is a Kiracs vault pass thing. plus boss gives unique drops and massive gold. When defeat him you can then have your ship continue it's journey. So not sure if you would want to put shipments at a higher chance to get high jacked just to fight this guy over and over or not?
Smelting bars into ore? That's the wrong way? Ore is what you get from the ground, and smelt into bars though.. GGG how did you make it this way that Ore is more valuable than bars?
I wonder what humbled my dude, bro was whining like a child and made a big scene in the community with the whole group quitting back in kalandra iirc and now the loot is atrocious again and he's like is what it is 🤣
![Kingsmarch Mappers - Passive Divine Orb Generation! [PoE 3.25]](/img/n.gif)
Pro tip for good disenchanting rares, you can use the bad rares from shipping, they usually are level 86 and have high tier mods that salvage for more than the average id rare
Some stuff I learned during the first week, I'm sure more info will surface especially about shipping as these things take some time to fully figure out. Final group video next and then solo adventures begin!
Thanks for watching!
any tips on how to do the shipments?
I would like to know more about recombinators, they dont work properlly anymore? 😢
If anybody is interested:
- the last upgrade for the town-hall will cost you 100.000 gold, so beware
- if you are trying to collect 100.000, there is a challenge that requires you to have 250.000 gold at once in your town treasury, so HOLD!
- once you've completed the 250k gold challenge, you can remove 100.000 from the treasury so you can upgrade your town-hall to maximum.
u saved me with 2nd tip, bro i would have lost my mind if i had to collect it again
@@JanDarkyy well I think once you upgrade everything and hire good workers you would have excess gold anyways so you would reach it eventually by itself.
@@JanDarkyy it is somewhat a grind to collect that much gold, expecially if your build can't handle super juiced content atm xD
Thank you so much!!!
Tyty
For me, the biggest surprise in this video was the fact that you can type the amount of resources to ship xD
8:50 Yeah...i didnt expect that, collected Versisium ore, turned off the smelting and went to bed. Came online and expected to have enough ore to upgrade the port...everything was bars -.-
@@Shadowalex999 The idea is good, i think the problem is to require ore in the first place, its super unintuative. Who builds stuff out of ore, instead of bars, dafuq ?!
@@Shadowalex999 Dude it's a new league you can't expect everything to be perfect... They will fix it
@@breachr4696 so your saying eventually they will fix everything?? because i have had daddy issues since league one and they still have not fixed it.
@@dankeykang2981 Hahahaha very funny i am laughing so much ahahahaha good joke ahahaha wow you really got me rolling lololol ahahaha this is just way too funnny ahahaha
the items from shipping with that you don't want to sell are usually 8-10k dust, easier than looking for rares in maps
DONT klick rewards with a low lvl twink! just opend a big shipment with a lvl 22 twink and got alot of lvl 20-25 low lvl shit
I've heard about this but wasn't sure if this is the case. Definitely a big issue
@@Empyriangaming This might be useful for targeting unique ilvls when opening jewelry shipments with high values / high dust amounts 🤔
@@Empyriangaming can confirm, the ilvls of items are tied to the character you open the rewards with, but im unsure if it affects the rarity or quantity of currency
Started typing this up as Empy was talking, and he ended up discussing around the 9 minute mark. Going ahead and commenting anyway to verify it can happen, and cause the algorithm demands engagement.
A big thing I learned: DO NOT OVERSMELT! Town upgrades are the most important thing and require raw ores often. I was being a newb and hiring folks for all the jobs, and happened to get some really efficient smelters. They were able to keep up with my ability to tag ores and smelted everything. I am now sitting with verisium bars but a town upgrade that needs raw verisium ore, even when I did not have any assigned to verisium. With the rarity of verisium, this is pretty painful.
I'm sure eventually once I get the town upgrades, I will get to catch up some by having those bars ready so long term its not probably as big of a deal, but right now it feels like I am twiddling my thumbs waiting to get lucky so I can continue progression. I ended up making just a go-fast atlas tree that is just shrines/niko/scarabs so I can blast through and scout for ores. Its currency/hour is probably much worse than the alternatives, but I am just trying to do the best I can while I maximize ores/hour.
I'd say the first prio would be to upgrade your mine to max since you will get more ore and, more importantly, more gold for it, and then go for the townhall
Also if u rush town you wont have the Gold to recruit high tier people anyways during normal progression
What do you mean by getting more gold for it?
what do you mean by more gold
@thomasrad5202 just checked
If you keep leveling the miners, there is an upgrade that let's you get same amount of gold as the ore that you mine yourself in the maps
Exactly. It gets you the Same Mount of Gold es you get of ore. So depending in your setup you get ~4-8 k gold extra per map. T 16 ambush/world/shrine/niko
Yo that last thing you said was super helpful. Love that you can bind it to a key
The multiplying value of dust seems to asymptotically approach zero as you get closer to 3x your base shipment value. In terms of dust efficiency it seems like ~2.5 is the sweet spot.
That's great empy. 12 mins packed of tips and tricks no time wasted.
Mappers are really special and the RNG factor of running them all is huge. For example, I ran T6 maps, all full, all 100% completion and it took 2 hours. 3 of 30 maps had a div in it, and I used tools to calculate currency and it came out to 9.2 div for 2 hours, so 4.6 per hour for me.
Got my first T10 mapper, the squad failed the third 99% success map and he died. I love/hate that there's always a chance they can die, it takes a decent chunk of gold to get high tier mappers and they don't bring in much.
It would be so cool if we could add 1 scarab to their maps as well to influence the kind of rewards they bring in.
Thanks Empy.
tysm! ive just been doing a little of everything i can. now i know what to focus on
I had that exact verisium issue. Figured it out last night.
8:50 I just never upgraded my smelter to be able to smelt verisium until my other buildings didn’t need it, and at this point endgame farming I find enough ore anyway
Verisium ore is hiding from me, else my town would be higher now
same
Even though Im barely at tier 16 maps its been fun, I found a Rakiatas Dance early shipping when I started mapping, even found a divine running my first maelstrom of chaos! Now Im afraid to spend them cause of how crazy the market is. 😂
at 9:00 I encountered this problem, removed verisium smelters, lost all my ores again and completely shut down the smelting part. I think it's a bug or sometihng
edit: also, the ship gear rewards are insane for disenchanting. They easily disenchant for 8k+ dust, while low level mappers or even your map drops are kinda bad in comparison
Thx for the /kingsmarch tip, didn't even occur to me that would be a command
You did a great job explaining the "Gold run out" timer, I tried explaining it to my boyfriend and did a terrible job.
thanks! :D
Would be nice if you could do some testing or showcase of recomb crafting with dust in a follow up video and how good it is compared to sentinel league.
The dust scaling theory was that the shipment value you get from dust isn't the same as the rarity of rewards that you get from it.
I see dust's diminishing impact on shipment value as a way for you to be able to dump as much dust as you want onto a shipment without guaranteeing that the cargo will be lost.
Welp, then ive been sending 5x times as much ore/bars as the towns needed this whole time in bars... hope they enjoy it!
Same. Would be nice if that info would have been conveyed in any way
Great vid.
You can also 3 to 1 runes. Usefull for ssf
Great video
I really don't see the reason beyond the suggested upgrading priority.
Gold will be a major limiting factor while upgrading the town fully and therefore rolling and sustaining top level workers will be very difficult.
With lackluster workers your farms will also not output enough to make upgrading them worth it early on.
If you level Miners first you will not only get more ores, but also get gold whenever you find ore passively.
Also if you want to really focus on farming gold, synthesis maps drop a surprising amount of gold
How do you get synthesis maps ? I'm a noob and everyone is talking about them.
best map for gold are synth maps you get between 15 to 30 k gold dependend on the mods
No, T17s are the best hands down.
@@johneboy216 juiced T17 is many times more difficult than the synthesised memory map though. It's not even cortex or uber cortex, these are monster level 81 maps that aren't harder than your usual red map. And you can do maven invitation rota with them too, which is nice added bonus. We are day seven of the league and only absolute nolife sweatypants have characters strong enough to leisurely farm juiced T17 or uber bosses. Most of us struggle and these memory maps are great solution for them.
I use scrabs with monster rarity and number it will boost drops
Video title sounds like some kind of Homework he had to make a video on.
if you progress your atlas slower than your town then you end up in a cycle of nearly always being broke with gold because the amount of gold u get in maps does not synergies with the lvl of the workers aka gold/hour and the reroll cost to hire them if ur town is high lvl, "took my time with the atlas, and ended up having to stress my ass of to sustain the gold because i was in low reds when i should have been in t16s" im sure some people can relate lol
I dont want to admit how many of these things i didn't know.
How much are you making an hour (or day) from shipping?
Do the mappers gain gold in the maps they run for you?
Do you get your own gold playing in a group?
Yes
Farmville type shi
Agree with blighted and blight-ravaged maps being awful for gold. Maybe a few thousand for a blight-ravaged map in my experience.
As someone who normally plays a lot of blight it's feeling very meh this league especially with the div card nerfs from last league.
Double anoints have potential but chances of getting a good one are pretty slim.
What does the fisherman worker do?
🐟
The mappers are way too expensive I think
What is the function of the shipment value though?
it determines the risk percentage
I found worker with Fishing rank 7, what is he for??
god dammit i just sent 3000 bars just before hearing that they are worth 5x the value of ore...
well glad i know that now.
ty
Wait... you can send dust? I totally overlooked that.
I'm struggling at the gold. My maps give me around 7-8k gold, but I would take 15 min to clear. Never before ggg made it so clear that I'm a slow player.
Anyone have tips for getting better runes from shipments?
I think delve has a good amount of gold too
Not sure if it was mentioned, but progress stays on a new character.
Send a million crops value with 1 mill dust and see what happens
I got 2 div back to back from each ship, at lv 6 port.
Wohooo,
Last league you could get 20div in one map… not waiting hours for the shipment
@@NhuQuynh-nv7fp you could get 1 mirror in a map now as well.
@@NhuQuynh-nv7fpwhat a stupid reply to some1 who is happy about his boats
Oh, should have started the vid with "Welcome to my crib"
Btw it's crazy how they smelt what they're not assigned to but don't mine the same way. I'd rather have that in mining than in smelting, more so given the need of ore for upgrades kek
I'm pretty sure miners also do this
@@Crackedsoull81 Really? That's great then
Pog
Is there a way to add gold to the treasury from the hideout? I saw someone do it but i cant. I invited him manually, did every quest, talked with each npc but still i cant.
You can put Johan in your hideout, and manage the town from him.
@@Karatecricket45 i have him in my hideout but i cant manage the town
@@MydrecaNaPopaIt’s an account based bug, I have it too - we just have to wait for a fix, also guessing you can’t open the town interface with ”V” in Kingsmarch and don’t have a button in the bottom right corner for it either
Why do my miners don't mine? It says 0 at ore recovered and I gain no ore. Am I dumb or why do my miners don't "find" ore? Do I have to constantly run maps and discover ores?
Yes, you have to *constantly TAG ore* in maps / zones THEN your miners will mine the ore.
GGG, like usual, did a sh!t job of explaining this mechanic.
@@MichaelPohoreski Oh ok thanks. Maybe that's the downside if I only doing blight maps atm 😂
ah i see... simcity on my poe feels nice
So pretty much Facebook farmville
am i only one who focus on ismr thing together with what he says😀
/kingsmarch = nice
Oh look at empherian now having to make real content lol
cool
how to sustain Gold cost as a simple 2 hours a day gaming and working man?
I can do maybe 15-30 maps a day x 10k makes 150k-300k gold.
If i look at 300k gold that will run my town not even 24 hours...
they shoud up gold reward by 2x...
i cant even trade shit nor gamble some items just because my town eats it all up
You only get out of the game what you put in. If you don't put in the time, don't expect the rewards. Let me guess, if you only played 1 hr a day, you would want the gold reward x4? And if you played 0hrs, you want infinite free gold?
Empy probably made close to a million gold during group play. Just try to get to high quant maps with lots of monsters and that will be our best bet.
Bro u have 3 months for all content
i wonder if it's best to literally just don't employ anyone but disenchanters and use all gold and dust to recomb shit
Why can i heard his lips smacking... the mic is new or what...
forsen
Kingsmarch Based or Cringe?
Binge
Bad
Meh we need more gold or upgrades should be cheaper. Mappers should not die as easy.
based
Terrable league
Just what poe needs.... More systems
I agree
Hey Empy the video is looking a little too sharp, smaller text is hard to read
If you can then do NOT take workes with more than 1 skill because they'll cost way too much compared to specialists (1 job)
One metal slab is worth 5 ores
Not neccesarily true. I've had farming V people taking more wage than Farming V + Smelting IV
hands hurting. Cant play. I am getting to old to gaming?!
Sadly GGG doesn’t respect your wrists or Carpal Tunnel. :-/
Play Righteous Fire for relaxed 1 button playing. (Technically 3 buttons to spam Curses, Dodge, and Traps/Mines.)
@@MichaelPohoreski I did and I have to quit now.>.> You think RF is relaxing but you still have to click shield charge, frost blink , punishment and for now enduring cry.
That was enough for me >.>
GGG take responsibility for my blight !!111
@@TheZackzable I feel your pain. I've been playing D2 for 24 years and PoE for 11 years. My reward? Getting Carpal Tunnel. :-/
Have you looked into foot pedals?
have you looked into a vertical mouse such as Anker or Logitech?
@@MichaelPohoreski Ty , tbh if I don't play Poe excessively I am good.
This league I tried my good old sweaty league start with 4 -5 days of around 8 hrs a day.
This was clearly too much.
Back to the boring normal world it seems for me
Also fun fact. It's not my mouse hand. It's the hand on the keyboard
@@TheZackzable Thanks for the info and sucks to hear PoE agitates your pain. I suspect one of the reasons your left hand is hurting is because your hand is twisted 90°.
For example, stand up and let your hands fall down to your side. Now make an L shape by bending your elbow and swinging your hand out in front. Notice how your palm is vertical. Now rotate your hand clockwise and slide it to the right so it is front of you -- this causes your arm to be at a different yaw. Notice how your arm is at a weird bent shape.
Have you looked at vertical split ergonomic keyboards like Kinesis so that your:
* palm is more vertical?
* arm is more straight instead of rotated?
I too am very close to having to quite PoE for good so just trying to help you get a few last "hours".
Not so merry now that party play and crazy mf is dead😁
What do you mean not so merry?
didnt look like blight was bad for gold judging from your videos....
It's not, and he never said it's bad, he said blighted MAPS
Sort of Easter Egg: If shipment gets high jacked, you have the option to rescue it. I believe this is a Kiracs vault pass thing. plus boss gives unique drops and massive gold. When defeat him you can then have your ship continue it's journey.
So not sure if you would want to put shipments at a higher chance to get high jacked just to fight this guy over and over or not?
are you kidding me? he is so easy to defeat and gives a ton of gold
highest amount I got from him was 50k+ gold
@@CharlesPage-lb6dm he can appear with 0 risks too
Risk and value has no impact on the boss showing up (it's literally written in game)
He can appear with 0 risk aswell. So people often sendt out 200 gold value shipments just to try to get hijacked.
Where's the Easter Egg part?
Smelting bars into ore? That's the wrong way? Ore is what you get from the ground, and smelt into bars though.. GGG how did you make it this way that Ore is more valuable than bars?
It is not. Bars are more valuable. Empty just confused them
@@wildpseudo1016 No thoughts, head Empy
U need to drink more during videos, couldnt watch the vid cus of that sound ur doing with ur mouth while talking :D no hate
I wonder what humbled my dude, bro was whining like a child and made a big scene in the community with the whole group quitting back in kalandra iirc and now the loot is atrocious again and he's like is what it is 🤣
At the end of the day he makes what matters witch is currency irl why should he care, he just matured nothing special about it