I get offered the Most INSANE Catan Trade Ever.
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Omg you're alive. You were the person that pretty much got me into this game, I was so proud of myself when I reached GM on Catan Universe, and now you're back to teach me more haha.
Surprised you didn't go for the wheat port instead of the wood port... double the production, unblockable, etc.
yeah, that decision also made no sense to me
I think his take on it was that wood is essentially a dead resource in his hand. He'd rather port his wood and keep wheat over the opposite. If he goes all in on wheat and the 6 gets blocked it hurts him a lot more than having the 6 wood blocked. Tbh I would also have gone for the wheat port, but in hindsight, I think this was the right play.
@@poro3246 disagree completely the sheer amount of production of his wheat make the wheat port an obvious choice. I have a hunch he had it in his mind that if he went on the wheat port he would have to build all the way to the 8/3 when it just isn't the case.
Nice to see you back on Yt, we missed you bro, but it was worth it waiting, edit was awsome! Keep on going ! Also i would like to see you play expansions, like Seafarers😀
If there's enough demand, then I'll go ahead and do it. I get asked this a lot but I'm always unsure if it's actually enough demand to justify making content for it. I'll eventually experiment and see how it does!
@@DyLightedPlaysCatan Well, I think that people dont play expansions because they haven't try it and it is unknown to them. i personaly thik that Seafarers and Knight's and city's are super fun, game last longer, you need to build knight's, boats, metropolis.. I bet that viewers would like to see that gameplay☺️
Base is best
This edit give me vibes that DyLighted is on Stimulants lol. Still great editing
Thanks 😅. It was definitely a bit fast paced lol
I'd also like to know the explanation on going wood port instead of wheat port (It looks like that was too obvious for you, since you have not tell a word on the wheat port perspective).
I am not a pro catan player (around 90 online games played) but personally I would go for wheat port for a number of reasons:
- To me its simply +3 ore vs +5 wood, and since ore is better coordinated with excessive wheat its an obvious choice to me
- Everyone has a decent wheat access, so the trade value of wheat is lower, and since you sit on 10 points of wheat it will make you change it 4:1 quite a few times at least
- Since you decided not to point your road towards 4 brick (I would try to get there), going for a double wood production with a wood port is not that efficient, since you'll need to change wood for brick which you always need together.
- Wheat is unblockable to you, whilst wood is a permablock once you are becoming the main threat.
I am always trying to analyze each game after its finished, and all of that stats at colonist.io helps much with that. After like 50 games I came up with some conclusions that set up my own strategy:
I always value resource coordination over excessive production myself, that is because I am not that good at tracking and thus coming up with valuable trading ideas. I mostly play at "very fast" speed with no voice chat so there is not much time to get into interaction with other players, and I found out that this strategy works the best for me. Very often my games end with me having the least resources rolled, but the most used, since I am not losing any due to rolls of 7, what makes this strategy well balanced and less luck dependent, while mitigating the influence of other players on achieving my win condition.
I must add, that I have never played in a tournament, so maybe my strategy would not work with more experienced players (but tbh I am not sure how to fight it myself :D)
I see You are very good at "mindgames" over the table making your opponents "falling into your net" and doing trades that helps you more than them. So maybe your faith in your negotiation skills made you do that move towards wood port?
One more value I see of that wood port is every time 6 rolls, you get a free card of your choice, so that is very flexible, maybe that is the way to go? Since you decided to go for dev card strategy, you might have assumed, that you will be able to defend that 6 wood block with your knights (again good tracking obviously help to improve knights value).
I would be grateful if you could comment.
I learned from your videos a lot, but having such a straight feedback could make me beat you one day, so I understand if you'll refuse :D
Honestly a very good write up. I think I did the wood port because I wanted to upgrade the 346, but I’m doubting myself now after reading. I think what you suggested may be better.
14:30 about the EV of robbing before or after the roll, its not that much of a maths question. Robbing and getting a 7 loses you 4 cards, not robbing and getting a 6 "loses" you 3 cards, so with the probability of 7 beeing higher than 6 its very obvious you made the right call by rolling first.
It gets more complicated when we consider the type of cards you lose (3 wood vs 4 cards of your own choosing), but thats not really maths anymore then
You also have to consider the blocking affect that it has on the opponents (ie. if he puts it on the 8 and an 8 rolls that's worth X cards too)
hy dyl nice vid, saw it live on stream.
at 5:29 there was like double text that shouldn't be there idk if it helps you
loving the streams, yesterdays was epic, keep it up!
That helps a lot! Thank you.
I only play this game with my family. If I swindled someone in a trade like that I’m fairly certain that I would get punched in the face
Good Thing you dont Play for Money than
It's great to see you back man! Can I just ask, why the new channel? Almost missed the recommendation.
I wanted this channel to focus more on gameplay and strategy, and my main channel to focus in on content that appeals to more of an casual audience. I will be posting a lot more frequently on this channel though.
min 14.30 Math teacher and poker player here.
You roll seven 1 out of 6 times. Wish means you lose 4 cards 1 out of 6 times. aka you lose 2/3 card on average if you use the knight.
If you remove the knight your average gain on wood is about 0,42 wood gain versus 0,66 avg card loss.
if "avg card gain" is more than "avg card loss" its smart to you use knight.
Conclusion: You should not place the knight before you roll if you risk getting discarded. If you have 5points(2 city and 1 settlement )or more its best to use knight before you roll.
Thanks so much for all you do! I’ve been taking what you’ve taught and improved my own play. :)
Nice vid! So cool to see you post again
More to come! Thank you!
personally, I wouldn't have traded black to help them win the race. Allowing black to get wood means that they can contest you for the 8 3 wheat port later in the game.
14:23
Avg # Cards if...
Move knight first: 8.4 (2.0 std)
Move knight after roll: 8.7 (1.3 std)
The background music here is so good
I had to be the 200th subscriber xD i dont even know this guy, but seeing 199 subscribers, i just had to xD also i dont mind catan, catan is actually a fun boardgame aswell :D
Thanks! I’ll only be posting more catan games like this.
Why not the 8 4 and build to the triple wheat?
Wow. Finally a video comes out. It's been awhile
What about placing second settlement on 4,8 brick wheat and then build to wheat spot
love the edits
hi dylan why do you pint road up instead of left on the 8 10 3 settlement
Hey Dyl very curious why you didn’t road settle to the 8 wheat 3 for 1 port instead of wheat as green could’ve took road and settled for a win?
Haha Eminem's "rap god" was fun = D
what is dillis? "popping dillis"
Buying a Dev card
entertaining and educational!
Is this the real dylighted or a reposter because this isn't his main channel
It’s the real one. I just wanted a second one to post stream games.
@@DyLightedPlaysCatan ah, thanks for clearing that up
At 14:35: 'Is the EV of using the knight worth it or not'?
It is worth it! Assuming you would play the knight in both scenarios (in one scenario you use the knight before roll, the other after):
-Chances of rolling a 7: 1/6 (16.7 %)
-Chances of rolling a 6: 5/36 (13.8%)
EV of using knight before roll: ((5/36)*3 cards on wood)+((1/6)*-4 cards you would discard if 7 rolled) = -0.25 cards on average
EV of not using knight before roll: ((5/36)*-3) = -0.416 cards on average
So in this case, because you have such high production on wood, it is worth to take the risk that you will 7 out as doing so will net you with an extra .16 cards on average. Of course, this doesn't mean that it might *actually* be worth it to play a knight in a real game scenario given that the hand you have may be actionable (or even give you the win), but if we are talking about purely on number of cards in hand, you should use your knight.
Note that whether it will be worth it or not depends on the number being blocked and how much production you have. Broadly speaking, 3 or more cards worth of production in a spot is worth using a knight for (assuming a decent number).
You are essentially solving for:
(X*Y) - (1/6*-4) > (X*-Y). Where X = chance of rolling your number and Y = cards of production in that number.
Math seems wrong, you don't get to count the +3 cards twice. The -0.25 you calculate is negative, that's all you need to say it's better to hold.
You can simply think: A 6/36 chance of losing 4 cards is not offset by a 5/36 of gaining 3 cards.
As you mention it depends on the situation, sometimes that trade *is* worth it, but in terms of expected number of cards you should not steal.
@@GlockenspielHero yeah, the error is using -3 in the EV calculation for using the knight after rolling. The EV is actually 0 in that case, because you don't gain any cards due to the block. The -3 makes it seem like you lose cards when a 6 is rolled. "Losing out on" and "losing" are not the same thing.
algo algo nice vid
I still don't understand why are you didn't go first of all to the 2:1 weat?
*wheat
Dilli 🥴🥴
You sound like ben shapiro
You talk way too fast Your words slurbtogether so you can't be readily understood. Even slowing the speed of the vlog doesn't help much.......please try to talk slower.