Firewire Seaside & Beyond Review - WOOLY TV #9
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2020
- Firewire Seaside & Beyond Review - WOOLY TV #9
Today Wooly goes over the 'Seaside & Beyond' recently released by Firewire
Surfboards. The Seaside & Beyond is the big brother to the all famous 'Seaside' by Firewire and sits as a mid-length, fish tail, quad fin.
I am riding a 6'8 x 20 3/4 x 2 5/8 - 40.9l (I'm 87kg and 6'1)
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Hey mate, love the review. I’ve got a 7’4 and have taken it out at 4-5ft Kirra and it went soo good. Hands in the barrel well, gets in so easy and will go top to bottom. However you are correct and 5ft day at the ally filling tide some steep sections some fat and you can draw the fastest rail carves and round houses. I do tend to stick to short boards but the beyond is soo much fun
Epic! Thats good to hear. Im thinking it would be mental in the right conditions. Glad you are enjoying yours! Stay safe and enjoy......
@Craig Phillips goes mental in Banks Penisula points and beach.
looking forward to see u ride the seaside!
Hi mate
Yeah I haven't ridden one as yet! I see guys ridding them all the time and they do look a lot of fun. Seen some of my mates absolutely ripping on them!
Rad reviews thanks for making them
Glad you like them! Hope you subscribed so you can check out the next one.
Cheers
Wooly
Super stoke mate. Nice board. Nice review. Keep going. :)
Thanks mate! I will keep going.
Cheers
Found your channel two days ago and loving the vids! How bout some footage of the swell you have coming your way?! Regards from Vicco...
Hi mate this pattern is just one big windy storm. There was a bit of a windy grovel for the keen guys today but the system look like its just going to run straight over the top of us! Hopefully we get a little window when the wind drops.......
Do you think this board will be good on a mushy east coast wave in the US? Fat rollers with not much power? Thanks
Garett Barry hi mate. Yes I think it would be perfect for those type of waves. If you want a little shorter version you could also look at the Seaside. Stay safe 🤙
Gday Wooli, I see you got the board going on your backhand on that left point/reef.... I’ve got a similar but a little different B plus sand bar near me on the ec that’s a really long left, it’s can be quick and down the line but not real powerful.... i need a board to get in early and get down the line quick on my backhand.... would you recommend this board?
Yes for sure! I found it went best in that left-hander. Longer walls and different types of sections. I enjoyed this board!
Late to the Party but I was wondering what the difference might be between the LFT and Timbertek. I'm considering the 6'10" in Timbertek. A little more volume but 2 inches shorter than the 7 footer.. Your ride great man and I love your reviews. Was looking for an old Hypto review from you. How'd you continue to get along with the Glazer and shorter Seaside? Did you continue to ride either of them. Would be good to hear long term reviews on boards that stayed in your Quiver. Have a great day.
Hi mate. I don't think it would make too much of a difference between the 6'10" and 7'0" just buy the tech/look you prefer. I ended up moving my Seaside and Beyond onto one of my coaches from my surf school and I think I made a B IG mistake, I should have kept that one! The Glazer I only rode for the demo as I think I needed a slightly higher volumed one to the one I rode. I haven't had a standard Seaside as yet but I have one on order and will be doing a review once it lands in my hands. Haven't do a Hypto review but I did have a quiver of demo ones in my shop back about 5/6 years ago and I went ok with them but I wasn't ridding boards like that back then - maybe I need to revisit and review?? Ok boards I have kept in my quiver for 2020
JS both Monsta Easy Rider DIM's and Monsta Box
Pyzel Pyzalien 2
JS Black Baron Twin
I would have kept but didnt
Baked Potato but I want one with a higher volume
Seaside and Beyond - shouldn't have sold this one!
Im currently riding/reviewing the Sci-fi 2.0 and Im really liking it.........Dominator 2.0 next........then DHD Mini Twin............
@@WoolyTV thanks for the response. Heard good things about all those boards especially the Pyzel. I thought the Glazet might have been a little under volumed for you but you ripped it. Looking forward to seeing those reviews. Stay safe. Keeping shredding and have a great Holiday season. Hope you get to ride another Seaside and Beyond again in bigger surf because you make Machados boards look fun.
@@caseymccormack2000 totally agree with Wooly. A few liters wouldn't hurt but will only add more glide to Seaside and Beyond. You would probably get a better flow and pop from the LFT version. It's less durable but if you don't throw your boards around especially on the shore breaks, it will last longer. Mine is a bit abused but nothing major to repair. This is based on my previous experience with Timbertek in general.
Hello, thanks for your video. Are duckdives possible with the 7’ ? Your Weight ?
Hi Mate
Im 87-90kgs and I could duck dive the 6'8" pretty easily.
Hope that helps
Cheers
I bought my first pair of vans in 1967 rode my first pool too.vans are the best tony. Ride on
Right on!
Just subscribed to the channel. Great review! Maybe it’s mentioned in your bio, though knowing the board reviewers weight & height is handy for tts audience.
Thanks for subscribing! Much appreciated. Yeah if you click underneath the clip is all there but Im around 187cm/87kg (6'1"/195lb)
Wooly TV my bad......poor eyesight!!
@@bonnie9496 All good!
Hey mate, just wondering your thoughts on the durability of the seaside and beyond in LFT, I’ve been wanting one for a while but hearing mixed reviews on the the durability of the construction
Thanks heaps Tom
Hi Tom, I had no dramas at all with the demo one I rode. It didn't even have a heal dent on it and now one of the coaches in my surf school has it and its still in great condition. Because of the shape of the swallow tail and where the leash plug is position I would make sure that the leash string is tied as close as it can be to the plug so the rail saver is working properly as to not damage the tail area with the urethane. Hope that helps.
Wooly
firewire don’t build em like they used to. helium easily cracks
@@rollopost You ahve issues?
@@bruce.ackerman i have a seaside since a year now, with minimum 100h of surfing and it is in perfect conditions like a new one !
Also i don't surf teahuppo ..i go up to head size wave not more and i care about my stuff so it is durable, just care about your stuff and it wont break !
Hey Wolly, mint review as usual!!! Need some advice on seaside. I currently ride ci mid twin 6'10 45lts prob intermediate surfer ok fitness and 85kg 175cm. Unsre whatcsize to go either 5'10 or 6'.mainly surf beaches often not gret surf.
Any advice would be great.
Cheers
I would probably go the 6'0", when you drop down from the CI mid the 6'0" will still feel small for you in the beginning.
Hey Wooly, thanks for your reviews! I want to get a new board, and im deciding between the big baron from JS and the Seaside and beyond. Im 1.8 m tall and 80 kg. Normally i ride a midlength or a glider longboard 9.4. I want a board i can progress going into bigger more hollow waves. Can you tell me the diffrence between this too boards and can you give me a reccomendation? Thank you for your help
Hi mate
If you want to surf bigger hollower waves then I think the Big Baron would be a better option due to the tail shape.
Hey Wooly, was wondering if you would recommend this board for a beginner? I'm 5'10 and about 65kg
Hi mate, If you are a complete beginner the larger ones should be fine - I always say that bigger IS better when you are learning. Maybe look at the 7'2" or 7'6". Its best to start on the longer high volume boards and work your way down.
Hope that helps
Wooly
@@WoolyTV cheers!
An interesting review. I have a 6' 8" S & B and it is great fun. The more I ride it the more comfortable and am with it. You are right though weight distribution by slight foot adjustment will get the best out of the board. One thing that disappoints me, and I know the S & B is designed for a quad, I wish it had the fifth centre fin slot so I could experiment with a thruster configuration. Does the swallow tail shape cause a problem with that idea Mr Wooly? (PS commented in the discussion section too)
Kieran O'Loughlin thanks mate. Yeah I think it would have enough room in the tail to run a tri fin set up. I think with the contours in the tail and tail shape, it’ll work better as a quad. I’m sure they played with all fin placements during the R&D with Rob. Good to hear you like it 🤙
Hi Kieran, do you still ride the S&B? Do you still like it? I'm thinking of getting one but I'm worried about the LFT construction. How is your board holding up?
@@kinouillek No problem its a great board. I have several LFT boards and love them all.
@@kieranoloughlin Great, thanks a lot.
Would love to see a review of the regular Seaside.
So many new boards coming through I find it hard to go back onto older models and review them.
@@WoolyTV understandable.
How does it compare to the same length Big Baron you reviewed? Paddling, wave catching,turning…
Hi mate
Similar paddling maybe the S&B might have paddled a touch better with the wider nose template.
The Big Baron turns a lot better. If you watch both reviews you will see the BB surfs more like a performance board 🤙
Hi, would you recommend a 7’4 for a beginner/intermediate for casual surfing? Im 81kg 6’0
Yes, best to go the 7'4", it will be easy to ride but lots of fun! Enjoy
Wooly TV thanks much
same boat here. i am 5'6 65kg. love something i can duck dive with without sacraficing too much.
surfing canggu waves bali.
cheers
got mine coming next week
Hope its going well for you! What a fun board
Which one would you keep Seaside and beyond or js big barron?
For me it’s the Big Baron. I did like the S&B and if I was surfing a lot of point breaks it would be perfect but I find the BB fast and manoeuvrable so I can surf it more like a short board.
Hi Wooly - thanks for your awesome reviews! They are great to watch and often watch them a few times. I am getting back into surfing after 20 plus years. It is my COVID escape. It is so great to be back in the ocean and is probably life altering in that I want to do this for some time! I am a mountain biker. When I surfed years ago, I just surfed with no real objectives and had longer boards. I got out of surfing because in the end the long boarding wasn't super exciting to me. This time around my goal was to try shorter boards. However, you read the internet too much you second guess yourself:)! I have been surfing for about a month now. Started with my longer boards (8 footer and a 9' 6"), and purchased a high volume fish (7' 2", 60L) based on concern of going too small/too low of volume too soon. I should have listened to my gut. I bought a S&B 6' 8" as middle ground as it was in stock at a local shop. In the back of my brain, I was still wondering, could I paddle and surf low volume board than typically suggested for my skill level based on internet feedback. Man, it is awesome, so much more maneuverability and I can paddle it and catch waves (and steeper waves), and for the first time I can duck dive. S&B has become my favorite board. I am going all in with the surfing. I needed to try a smaller board for my own personal experience. I bought a 5' 9" Seaside (only 1 surf on it so far). Its hard to determine which one paddles better, but feel the S&B paddles a tad better and catches waves better. here's my question, it feels a little more unstable once on the wave relative to the Seaside. I was surprised how balanced the short Seaside felt when catching the waves with it relative to the S&B. Especially the first wave, it was surprisingly planted. It was eye-opening as I thought the opposite was going to occur. Any thoughts? Its is the shorter board that's wider. I am also curious about fins? On the S&B I have the Machado's, and on the Seaside, I have a large fin quad set-up because of availability. Does this have anything to do with it? The boards have different fin boxes so I can't swap. FYI - I am 48 years old and 86kgs. I definitely notice my intercostal muscles more riding the smaller board.
Hi Jamie,
Great to hear you have found the stoke of surfing again!
There is only a few litres difference in volume from the 5'9" Seaside to the 6'8" S&B. Usually the longer boards paddle better and that makes sense that you can catch waves easier on the 6'8". The Seaside is a lot wider and thicker so you have more area on the deck of the board making it feel more stable. Sounds like you have 2 good boards fro where your surfing is at. Enjoy
@@WoolyTV Thanks buddy!!! Will do!
@@WoolyTV Following up on this as I am gaining experience. I had a good week of surfing and focusing on the subtle differences. As you mentioned, they are two great boards. I have no complaints, it is more the curiosity in me. I am curious about a board that falls between the 5’ 9” SeaSide 37L (referred to as SS) and the 6’ 8” SeaSide and Beyond 40L (referred to as SS&B). The SS&B - I love the glide and ease of wave catching, though fun on the wave, prefer something shorter once on the wave. I kind of like the narrowness of the board. On the contrary, the SS takes a bit more work to get the wave (not an issue though), feels really wide, but is super fun on the wave. I wonder if something in-between would be ideal - just not sure what that is😊? Hence my curiosity of the Hydroshort in your up and coming review. The Glazer is the other option, as it is narrower, but remains shorter. Curious of your thoughts - I can wait to avoid any spoilers with the Hydroshort!
Can you do a dhd mini twin 2 review too? 😃
Hi mate, I have one on order so stayyyyyyy tuned
I am 63yrs weigh 90kgs and have had a hip replacement. I am a bit slower to get up than I used to be. I was an advanced surfer when I was in my teens to early 30's but now I surf east coast NZ waves up to 4' 95% of the time. Very rarely surf hollow waves or point breaks, mainly beach breaks. My best surfing years were on twin fin fishes, the MR Twin Fin being the highlight. The rail line of the 7'4" is quite straight looking, does it turn easily? I want a board that generates its own speed and doesn't need pumping, is easy to paddle, stable, length which give a little bit more time on the pop up and glide. I want a board that is forgiving and has a large sweet spot. I don't surf vertically in the pocket. I don't want a boat, I don't want big boxy rails. I am looking at the Firewire Vacay, the Seaside and beyond which though the middle to the tail aren't that different in plan shape and the DHD Black Diamond. What are your thoughts?
Hi Chris
The rails on the S&B are quite low and they aren't super high volume at all (the 6'8" was only 40.5L). If you were surfing more point breaks then I would suggest it for sure but I think it will work well in certain types of beach breaks. You will need to surf it like a mid-length (sort of mini mal) but from what you have told me here I think iot would be the best option out of the 3 you have listed. Hope that helps. Go see Hutch at Backdoor surf, they stock the Firewires in NZ.
Wooly
@@WoolyTV thanks for that. I mind surf the seaside and if the seaside and beyond is an old guy version of that I am sure I will really like it. The black diamond looks good but has a large shortboard look to it. Backdoor will be the place to go.
Forgot to mention, I had a 6'10" SLX Huevo and I think it is a good board but at 44ltrs it just doesn't have the glide I need and the length doesn't give me that split second of extra time to pop up and get into the wave a bit early. I think the bottom contours in the huevo don't give it the speed that newer bottom shapes have. I did like it and it was very forgiving but to go up a length would have to be a 7'6". Wide point forward, width etc is similar to the Seaside and Beyond but I think the S&B is more refined.
@@chrisfindlay5963 Enjoy it! I have 3 good mates that have all had hip replacements and they are all back ripping! Good luck
I love my 7'0.. but now i"m considering to get a 6'8" lol
Yury Tsedenov ha ha don’t stop there! Get the 7’4” too!
I've owned both Seaside and Ss&B. This is the best fish I've ever surfed but the front end of these things always gets hung up for me. I kept the OG Seaside for years trying to get a handle on it but have eventually gave up on any fish design.
Ive got a huge quiver of boards of many different styles but, I've never clicked with a fish of any description. I get it, but I'd rather surf an Evo in those types of waves!
Good to really fine tune what you do/don't like! Saves a lot of money when choosing boards to buy!
You nailed it
Cheers mate
Seaside and Beyond or Big Baron ???.... Your thoughts
S&B for cruising, BB for ripping 🤙
@@WoolyTV nice one thanks
La version de machado de "hacendado"
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