Owning a Used Tesla Model S for 1 Year (Review)
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
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We've been driving our 2014 Tesla Model S for over a year, and in this episode share our thoughts & insights for those considering a used Tesla.
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0:00-2:56 Exterior Overview
2:57-6:15 Front & Rear Trunk
6:16-8:37 Back Seats
8:38-11:06 Driving Position
11:07-14:48 Center Screen
14:49-17:43 Cabin Layout
17:44-19:02 Driving Range
19:03-21:15 Tesla Superchargers
21:16-22:37 Home Charging
22:38-23:28 Phone App
23:29-24:54 Closing Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
Bought a high mileage 2013 S 85 a year and a half ago, driven it all over the country. Had to fix the eMMC / MCU issue, replace a door handle, screen treated for yellowing, and a failed tail light due to water. Even with all that, no regrets as it's a absolute treat to drive, and never needs gas. At 8 years, 153,342 miles, the car still feels brand new. I will absolutely buy another Tesla.
And you probably have free supercharging too, right?
Indeed
Thank you for this I just ordered a 2014 and I heard the most common issue with these cars was the doorhandles which unfortunately cost $1000 to repair. 2014 which I purchased was roughly $42,000
How many miles does it give you a full charge
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Yes, the door handles are a common failure point. I’ve had one replaced through Tesla mobile service, it was $302.69 and they installed a revised/stronger mechanism.
As far as the range goes, it depends on the weather a great deal. I live in MN so the winters here are no joke. During the subzero temps, it’s totally possible to lose 50% of my range if I’m not preheating the battery. Speaking of the battery, at 162,414mi I have 243mi of stated range (EPA) out of the original 265. This equates to 8.3% degradation, not bad for the miles and a 9yo pack 👍🏻
Taking delivery of a used 2015 Model S 85 in the next couple of days and this video helped out tremendously with some questions I had. Thanks!
Happy to help, and congrats on the Tesla!
How’s the car? I am thinking about buying one too.
Bought the same car and almost same miles! I love it and the new ones look the same.
2016 nose cone facelift is huge change to Model S look
How reliable is it
Thanks for the review. I’m trying to get a used P85+ at the moment. Hoping to hear back today?🤞
Great review. Direct to the point without nonsense or conjure. Inserted graphic examples are helpful.👍👍
Thanks! I need to get back to posting content here soon. Got a couple videos queued up for this year.
I really like the matte finish on the wood interior, that's what my 2015 has as well.
I also purchased it used rather than a new Model 3. Unlimited connectivity, unlimited supercharging, all-aluminum body, sunroof, autopilot, can't beat it!
Would be nice if I had a little taste of that autopilot. Has the all-aluminum body changed in more recent models?
@@EVeverything AP1 is very respectable, does a good job and will change lanes when you signal. Will also wait for a vehicle next to you before doing so. Just so happens I will be in Austin in a couple of weeks. Taking my Tesla to visit family in Kansas and hoping to take a road trip to Starbase, TX and will stop to see GF Austin along the way. Texas sure is a big state!
I haven't heard of any change away from the aluminum body. I don't think there is a need to and M3 and MY have been keeping them pretty busy. :)
How do the used cars have free supercharging?
@@sam10818 All the cars built before mid-2017 (and the first few Model 3s in 2018 I believe) were grandfathered in to have permanent free-supercharging. This perk travels with the vehicle from owner to owner. Since I have a smaller battery pack (2014 Model S 60W) this is quite helpful. Even if I had to pay for supercharging, it would still be only a third as costly to fill up as gasoline. The average Tesla owner who has a 85-100 kw battery charging from 20% - 80% pays around $25.00 to charge at one of the more pricey superchargers. Here in Gainesville, FL the rate is around 30-40 cents per kWH.
Thanks for your review. You got a fantastic deal, given the low mileage and tip-top condition of your 85! 👍 You are also fortunate to have home charging, which I don’t have for my Tesla in Hong Kong!
Thanks! And yes, it certainly can be more difficult without the convenience of charging at home.
Had my 2014 S P85 for a year. Absolutely best car I've ever owned. Not a single issue.
A lot of newer Tesla owners seem quite taken (aka) jealous
Of the PMMB BLUE color. Hasn't been available from Tesla for some time. Same color as yours. Get A LOT of looks with this car and it's color.
Just picked up a 14 PMMB p85 this weekend. It is so glorious!
The newer is nice but I’m way more partial to mine lol
Very well made video. Thanks! I'm considering buying a used model S in the future.
I'm starting to see some under $30K now!
@@EVeverything think I’ll be able to get a used model Y in a few years for 30k?
@@Ghost-jy9hk definitely possible, especially once we get some used versions of the new, cheaper rear-wheel model. But might be 2-3 years until those come off-lease. Keep an eye on the news about the government reinstating the federal EV tax credit for Tesla & GM which would bring the effective cost of a new Model Y RWD Standard Range down to about $36K if Tesla doesn't boost the sales price to compensate.
Prioritize the biggest batttery size over options, you will be happier later.
Good stuff I have a p85 firm 2014. Used evs are the best. I have had mine for over 3 years now I have over 106,000 miles now. My car when it was new was $117,000! Crazy. I have then dual chargers and every upgrade including ap1. I love It Before that I also had a Chevy volt. That’s a beautiful car.
Chevy Volt was nice when we had one. Tesla blows it away of course!
Keep it up!
Model S 2017 used for me from tesla online 9 months ago, agree that’s the way to go, it’s just like the new ones, just missing the MCU2 (not a big deal) and ability to play sounds on exterior car speakers (new gimmick recently). Cut the price almost in half and it only had 15k miles on it! Press on, great vid
Excellent decision! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you. I have just started my plan to own a 2014 85. You sure found a beauty!
Thanks! Unfortunately we did end up selling this car earlier in the year. Did a video detailing our decision to sell ua-cam.com/video/1H4ojntxlNI/v-deo.html
@@EVeverything Cool. You seem like too young of a man to evaluate cars like this. What have you owned (BMW 7 series, Audi 8, 500 Series Benz, .......)?
@@benkanobe7500 I'm only evaluating my experience with the cars I've owned, including this Tesla. I'm not an auto journalist, nor a car aficionado outside of the EV tech involved.
Nice review. Just one comment- it’d be better if you could get the trunks space better illuminated than they currently are in your video. Ours very difficult to make out how big they are because they are so dark and not captured well.
Thank you so much! I am buying a 2018 100D and this helped me more than the salesperson! One thing I will mention is, yes, that is real wood. Thanks again.
Glad the video was useful for you! Good to know about the wood. Maybe I need to treat it to keep it looking its best?
@@EVeverything I would say yes. I haven't yet figured out what to treat it with.
Great review
Thanks for watching!
Brilliant!
There are only about 130K of these particular models with the nose cone. [2012 - 2016] It's the next Tesla classic. Also can be upgraded with a 5G computer and 90kwh battery. If you can't afford new Tesla right now, buy used. You'll be safe while driving one while you let the tech improve more. Then get another.
What's the 5G computer upgrade? Same as getting the MCU2 upgraded screen/processor?
Good review man! We're trying to find a 7 seater Model S and it's been a bit of a challenge. We spend about $700/month in gas the way it is right now and that's RIDICULOUS! So we figure we'd put that money to an electric car we like.
With that kind of money being spent on gas, you're going to see a lot of savings upfront when your electric bill only goes up $50. Unfortunately, used car prices are up so you may not find as good a deal as a year ago. But here are a couple 7-seaters I found near me www.cars.com/shopping/results/?dealer_id=&feature_slugs[]=third_row_seating&keyword=&list_price_max=&list_price_min=&makes[]=tesla&maximum_distance=all&mileage_max=&models[]=tesla-model_s&page_size=20&sort=best_match_desc&stock_type=used&year_max=2013&year_min=&zip=78701
Don’t get a 7 seater. It’s dangerous
I spend roughy $700/monthly on gas too for my damn rover. Been thinking of getting a used tesla model x. But if budget allows then id really love to get a used Model X
Nice review! I bought my 2014 Model S here in Norway about 9 months ago so I have free internet & supercharging included and according to the Tesla app I have already saved over $6000 in gas so far. Also I pay nothing when using most of the toll roads and the country has over 1200 superchargers available and many can be used by any make of car as long as they have the Tesla app to pay for charging, albiet at a higher price then Tesla owners pay.
A few months ago the entire user interface received a great new refresh with an over the air update, which is great considering it's an 8 year old car that is still getting improvements.
The only mod I have done is to replace the ageing 3G modem woth the latest 4G LTE as our 3G network coverage is slowly shutting down in favour of 4G/5G.
After owning a Tesla for the past nine months I could never consider driving anything else.
With the electricity and gas prices as they are today, I probably couldn't afford NOTto drive a Tesla (with free charging.
Even after 8 years of use, my battery still charges up to 275 US miles.
So good of you to share your experience. I hear Norway is ahead of the curve in general as it comes to EV adoption. Thanks for being part of the change!
Thank you for awesome video! Great explanation and awesome car!
Great video. I bought a 2015 S85D from Tesla in April 2019, with 12,004 miles. It was a returned 3 year lease and felt like a brand new car. At that time, it came with a 4 year/50,000 mile warranty starting from my delivery date, free supercharging and free premium connectivity. 19” wheels, Technology Upgrade with Autopilot 1.0, all heated seats, premium sound system with subwoofer, and panoramic sunroof. Best part was the price, about 60% of the sticker price. I LOVE it.
A few months ago I had Tesla upgrade the MCU1 to the new MCU2. Now I have all the games and video theater of a 3. Still prefer my beautiful S85D over a 3. Like you, plan to buy another Tesla. I have a deposit on a Cybertruck!
Wow, that's incredibly low mileage on a 4-year-old car! Happy to hear you're enjoying it. And a bonus that you got the extended warranty buying direct from Tesla, as we only had the powertrain/battery warranty still in effect when we bought ours.
Thanks for the review! We're thinking about a 2015 S w 52K miles. This helps!
Happy to help! With the 2015 you should get a taste of autopilot features
Thanks For the video friend. I recently purchased a 2014 Model 2 85 with 30k miles. I was able to get away with free supercharging for a bit, until i added the tesla to my account. Guess they found out it was auctioned at one point . : ( oh wells. I loves mi teslaaaa
Oh, weird. One of the perks I thought was keeping the free supercharging and data connectivity for the life of the car. I created a Tesla account after getting mine, but fortunately nothing like that was disabled.
Looking into getting a used 1 as well,Having a corvette is fun, but this is a practical car that my wife shouldn't be to worried about driving. Thanks for the video
Practical, while still being fast and fun to drive! Used prices on these keep dropping, so I hope you find a great deal.
Did you get one, I had a c6 z06 & just sold it I’m looking at a 2016 Tesla 90d but I keep hearing half of people say Tesla is bad & problems & the other half that it’s goood great care & reliable
@@averagejoe1739 I have a C7 Z06 and just ordered a P85+
Going to do some comparison videos since I heard the P85+ handle extremely sporty like corvettes
Really good overview. Owned my 2012 for about 3 yrs now, replaced a door handle for $150 but other than that, no issues. Another thing people never mention, model s is a great car to do office work in!!
Did you ever do the MCU2 screen upgrade? There's also the pending loss of free mobile data once AT&T eliminates its 3G network next year. It's $200 to upgrade to the new modem for 4G support to continue that free mobile data these older Teslas get.
@@EVeverything I am very reactive and not enough proactive LOL. My screen hasn't had any issues (knock on wood) so no need to update just yet. I've been told it's definitely worth updating though. I had not heard about 3g going away and needing to update the modem..... that is news to me. Thanks for info 👍👍👍
@Matt P I've got my first broken handle too now at just a little over 60,000 miles
love this trunk mat, where you got it?
Yeah, it matches quite well with the branded Tesla floor mats that were already in the car when we bought it. Trunk mat can be found on Amazon if you search this ASIN B07WZTD8SW
I like the front of the older S models better than the new. And I dont know why they have to make some functions more complicated than they need to be like opening the sunroof. I dont need a touchscreen to open my sunroof I just reach up push a button it opens
I don't mind the black nose cone either. Kinda want to modify it somehow to look like the black grill on the new Mustang Mach-E. And yeah, getting the sunroof open to a precise % using the screen is a bit difficult (especially when driving) compared to the simple button on the roof of my Outlander PHEV.
I have a NEMA 14-50 installed. Takes a couple hours to charge from 50 to 90%.
Yep, will certainly be much faster than the 12 miles per hour I get using the NEMA 6-20 plugs in our garage. But still plenty fast for our purposes.
For those wondering; the intro music is "Just the Same" made by Double W-MC.
Interesting. The track comes up as "Inspiring" with PR Music Productions listed as the artist in my license library.
@@EVeverything hmm, weird. I guess it's general corporate music that is licensed by different entities. Mine was what was tagged with Shazam and it was the result on UA-cam as well.
Cool video, what color do you have? Some blue?
I think it was called dark metallic blue, which has been discontinued for some time now. Same for the grey interior color, which is no longer an option but I really quite like it especially with a blue exterior.
LOL. Also had a Chevi Volt and switched to a 2015 85D one year ago. Greetings from Germany.
Haha, same upgrade for both of us! Hope you're enjoying your Tesla
We still have our 2017 Volt. We love it, but not as much as the Tesla!
Yup, I've got a 2017 Volt too. Eyeing a used Model S...
love my 2014 model s. I got a 60 kw battery and it charges to 210 miles when it was rated for 208 from factory. I drive in range mode and it got every bit of full charge mileage in warm san diego climate. got mine with 76k miles and it came with autopilot+free supercharging. couldn't be happier with it, performs amazing fun car to drive, looks nice and ride is comfortable with 2nd gen seats. I think your MCU may have leaked in some spots and they can replace and fix but its a bit pricey and not needed if it still works👍👍
Your 2014 has autopilot? Didn't think that was available for the model year. And did you get the 2nd gen seats installed, or what?
@@EVeverything it must have been a late 2014 as it does have ap 1.0 and summon beta, came with 2nd gen seats.. one downside is the higher headrest really blocks rear view mirror view, but comfortable for me, I dont think i mind the 1st generation as much as some every tesla i rode in has felt great but others are hard on the 1st gen seats
@@jackgreenstalk777 glad you're enjoying yours! I'll have to give the range mode a try, as I've never even thought to engage that on longer trips.
@@EVeverything had a 2014 Tesla rental, has autopilot.
@@crunchystrat2324 looks like it was introduced in the fall of 2014. Guess I just missed it on mine. Oh, well.
Waiiiitttt this is a 2014!!??? Ok that’s amazing! Tesla is kinda cool
Yep! Unless you know what to look for, most people assume it's a newer car bc the Model S design hasn't changed much over the years. There's even 2013 models and possibly 2012 too
Any problems after 1 year? It's an older vehicle, any repairs? How much do have repairs run you? Thinking of buying a '16 70D so any info you can give on those questions would be helpful!
I've been thinking of doing a video to go over just this topic, but it's a pretty short list so far. Things that have actually needed repair would be the recent eMMC recall but was done at no cost. The drive unit had a whirring noise to it that I wanted replaced, apparently a common issue for these older rear wheel models, but was covered under the battery & drivetrain warranty. The only things I've actually had to pay for at the service center have been tire rotations, key fob replacement & reprogramming, and a new 12v battery probably totaling around $550. My screen has some yellow discoloration that could be resolved by upgrading to the MCU2 screen for around $1,500 I think, but I haven't sprung for that yet. There are the notorious handle replacements that I've been lucky to avoid so far but are somewhat common repairs, and I do fear ever having to fix something with the air suspension should that fail. An easy maintenance item is replacing the cabin air filter, which is much easier than any previous car I've owned!
How is much your car insurance? Do you have clean driving record? I live in Houston, so I’m sure the rate would be pretty similar.
We actually just paid our car insurance upfront for the year, so it's fresh in my mind. It was an almost even $1,000 for 6 months and we have 2 cars. I'm sure it's not an even split but it breaks down to $84/mo per car if it was. Our other vehicle is also a plug-in, but if the Model S is more to insure I'd still say easily under $100/mo for us with Progressive.
We just bought a 14 ! Just curious if you’ve seen a rise in your power bill, if so how much? Thanks
Your electric bill will certainly rise, but should still save you overall compared to buying gas. Personally we've seen an increase of maybe $50 in electricity between our two EVs when we used to be spending almost twice that on gas monthly. Try to keep costs low by charging overnight & avoid peak times during they midday/afternoon/evening.
Hey! I have a 2014 Model S 60 (I named it "Vader")! Pre-autopilot, single large drive unit, in black, with the sunroof. :) I have 152,000+ miles (252,300+ km) on it now. I bought mine used back in May 2021. :) Thanks for this video. I love my car.
Here's what I'm about to fix:
1. Both hatchback tail lights due to water issue ($970 w/labor),
2. replacing MCU 1 with MCU 2 to restore connectivity due to 3G discontinuation (and to fix that leaky goo in the binnacle), ($1,880 scheduled for Feb 20, 2023, w/labor)
3. front control arm bushings (cracked, $850 to replace w/labor)
Things I've had fixed,
1. eMMc MCU chip (free),
2. passenger door handle micro-switch failure (replaced, $270),
3. window regulator failure (replaced $400),
4. drive unit coolant seal failure (replacement of drive unit, $4,800 for remanufactured DU, not including labor).
5. windshield (due to crack that appeared at service center during DU replacement, propagated across windshield due to thermal stress). (free - covered by car insurance, normally $1,000 w/labor)
Thanks for sharing! I think these kind of details are really useful for people considering buying older used Teslas.
Great video! I'm looking at the exact same car right now at a regular used car dealer. I've heard if a Tesla is purchased with less than 50000 miles it will have a 4 yr 100,000 ml warranty. Do you know if that's true? Or does it have to be like a certified Tesla dealership thing?
I remember reading something like that when I was researching that info, but I'm not sure it's entirely accurate. Or maybe it was, but is not policy anymore? My understanding is if you buy a used car directly from Tesla there is an extended warranty applied (2 years or something like that), but otherwise you may have to look into something like X-Care who offers a warranty that apparently Tesla recognizes at their service centers.
@@EVeverything thanks for replying. It is the same exact car as yours. I've been watching a ton of videos trying to research. Nervous about a couple things people have experienced like the screen going bad, door handles and drive motors. Any advice?
@@swchristian69 I chose not to purchase any type of extended warranty, and the battery is still covered for about another year I think. If you're able to see the car in-person, maybe check out the screen to see if it has any yellow spots like mine. Functionally everything has worked well, and a 7-year old car like this probably had any issues fixed by previous owners. My one concern is if the air suspension ever needed to be repaired, as I imagine that would be expensive. I'm kind of willing to take the risk financially, as I have yet to run into any issues whatsoever in the past 6 years of driving EVs. Again, I think X-Care is the only 3rd party insurer that Tesla's service centers accept. Alternatively you could look a purchasing a used model directly from Tesla's site if you want that 2-year warranty.
New Tesla comes with 4 year 50k warranty and transfers to the second owner. CPO warranty (discontinued) also transferred to next owner if purchase is from owner not a dealer (how I got my warranty).
@@joebass5163 New Tesla battery warranty is only 4 years? If so, that seems quite short compared to competitors in the EV space.
I want to get rid of my Tesla Model 3 RWD for a Model S. Great video!
Hah, now that sounds interesting! What are some of your reasons?
@@EVeverything while the Model S is a both more floaty in handling, I find it to be more comfortable on long trips. The interior is better appointed. Elon claims that the Model 3 doesn’t need a Speedometer yet puts one on the redesigned Model S and X which makes me feel like it’s a cost cutting effort. And lastly the hatch. I loved hatches, the Model 3 should have been designed that way IMO
@@lrod8692 I'd like to move to a Model Y ideally after the S. It seems to improve on everything the 3 has to offer, and in a crossover design that I find appealing. But there's also that Cybertruck reservation I've held on to just to see when it actually becomes an option to buy, so we'll see what happens next year probably.
Chargepoint and the rest dont cut it - Tesla's SuperCharging makes a huge difference!
Superchargers certainly are more plentiful (for now) and offer very fast charging. I did go on a long trip with my LEAF and used a variety of chargers from Electrify America, Chargepoint, and Blink. Electrify America stalls seemed closest to the Supercharger experience, both in the number of charging stations & charging speed.
now i might be insane, but imma try and get one of these
Used car prices are high at the moment, but I've seen the older Model S cars come in below $30K which is pretty good imo even without autopilot. Just depends what you want out of the car, and for me it's the luxury feel and driving range.
Was it difficult to switch owners? Would I be able to start driving cross-country right at delivery, or would there be a wait until the Tesla App recognized me as the owner instead of the person who sold it to me? Thanks!
Hmmm, I don't quite remember the process. The dealer sent me instructions to create a Tesla account and how to attach the car to that account. By the time the car arrived a few days later, everything was good to go as far as it working with the app.
It's a beautiful car
I agree! Very interested to see what the upcoming refreshed look of the S (and maybe X) will look like.
Thinking about buying almost the same car. However i dont have a garage. Can i charge this outside? Is it waterproof?
I've had no issues charging other electric cars outside (LEAF, Volt, Outlander) but I can't say for sure about the Tesla. Its plug doesn't seem as shielded as the J1772 found on other EV brands, but sounds like it probably is safe as long as your charging unit that's plugged into the wall is not exposed to the rain teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/charging-in-the-rain.201690/
As a proud owner of the Performance version of the 85 trim for 1 year, I would not recommend the older Model S for taller folks (6'2") because of the said head space. Luckily, most of the older Model S can be retrofitted for all the seats if needed.
My production year is June 2013, so that entails at least an Media Center Unit (MCU) upgrade and maybe if you're unlucky, the window regulator units in the door panels. 1500 for MCU and 300 each for 2 regulators.
I would recommend finding a 3rd party authorized Tesla repair shop to fix the smaller issues the older models may have (door handles getting stuck or window regulators being jittery but still functional). They may fix those for free.
The car still rides and feels like new and with the help of the TezLab and Reccurnt apps, I can make sure I'm driving it to the maximum efficiency. I do have an interesting max charge range of 232. When I got the car originally it was 221. I am slowly getting the range recovered thanks to said apps.
Thanks for sharing! We ended up selling our 2014 Tesla recently due to a range of issues that will be the topic of an upcoming video.
@@EVeverything Looking forward to watching it.
So, we are looking into a model S or a model 3. Model S is from 2015 but only 28k miles while the model 3 is from 2016 with 21k miles. Which one would you choose here?
I personally like the larger interior and storage space offered by the Model S. Things like a true hatchback design on the trunk section of the S really makes loading things into the car more convenient. If you're more interested in the tech features, I can only imagine the Model 3 excels in this area. Our 2014 S has no autopilot at all, but the 2015 you're looking at at should have AP1 with features like "summon". Again, the Model 3 surely has more autopilot fun to enjoy. The looks of the two cars are pretty different, so you might have a preference in that area as well. I would think the S you're looking at would be quite a bit cheaper than a used Model 3, but if you think it's worth the extra cost & you want more warranty coverage then perhaps the Model 3 will be your best choice. I've never actually driven a Model 3, so driving dynamics would be another consideration.
@@EVeverything Thank you for your response. I really appreciate it.
Does anyone know if Tesla offers unlimited charging if your the 2nd owner of a 2015-2018 model s?
I'm the 3rd owner of my 2014, but not sure if the policy changed anywhere along the way. My general understanding is that if the car has been sold privately or through non-Tesla dealerships then it's likely that the supercharging and data connectivity for life remains intact. It's the used cars that Tesla resells directly that sometimes have those features disabled from what I've read.
before January 15th 2017, Model S and X free supercharging for life is tranferable, before nov 2nd 2018 400kw hour annual charging credit for s and x is transferable, but jan 15-sep 2018 model S, X And 3 supercharging for life is NON transferable
Before you buy , look at the history of the car. Make sure it wasnt placed in auctioned , and make sure it’s not sold directly from Tesla. Otherwise they have stripped the supercharging .
What if you have a house but no garage? Turned it into a man cave 😅. I’m interested in a 2012 though, may sell my 2013 Escalade hybrid.
The garage is usually just a good place to install a 220v plug & house the charging unit. You can always run the cable under your garage door, which is what we do for one of our cars. It just charges outside in the driveway, but I wouldn't want the charger itself installed outdoors.
thoughts on the battery warranty now that your is out ofwarranty. im considering a 2014 now? talk me off the ledge please.
We actually sold the car a few months ago, but we only saw a dip of about 5 miles in over 2+ years of owning it. Overall range from when it was new seemed to be down 12 miles, at least according to the estimated range on the car. With highway driving and AC on we always got over 200 miles on a charge, but sometimes as low as 220 even when it was telling us 250 from the start. There were quite a few things with the car that we worried about, but the the battery health was not one of them, and so the expired battery warranty wasn't why we sold it.
@@EVeverything thanks!
How much is the insurance? I’m in the market for a car and want to buy a used Tesla but im worried about the insurance cost
I haven't noticed it to be any higher than the Chevy Volt our Tesla replaced. At this time we're paying just under $190/mo to cover our Tesla & Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Both have battery packs, and I do believe our insurance was more once we began insuring more expensive electric cars compared to cheaper (to replace/repair) gas vehicles. So in the U.S.A., with our Progressive insurance, seems about $100/mo is what we're paying. A newer Tesla may cost more to insure.
For longer range people want rear drive, little lighter car, lighter wheels and narrow tyres.
I guess the Model S satisfies the rear-wheel capability. Only other affordable EV with RWD that I can think of right now is the BMW i3
13:21 Screen dead pixel like that don't have warranty???
You mean the yellow areas of the screen? No dead pixels I've noticed, but I usually put the screen in night mode so those areas appear just like a faded white instead of yellow. I could get a new MCU2 screen replacement for $1,500 but it doesn't really bother me enough and I don't need Netflix or to play video games like that upgrade would also allow me to do.
You'll have to travel outside of Texas to by any new Tesla...until Texas changes it's law regarding Tesla's direct sales model.
I'm not exactly sure how it works since we bought ours used, but I know there are workarounds bc people take deliveries of their new Teslas at one of there sites here in North Austin.
Wondering if you were able to get the unlimited supercharging? I saw that this model has unlimited supercharging lifetime of the car not owner.
Yes, I was the 3rd owner and the free supercharging and mobile data remained intact.
Thanks so much for the video. I want a used Model S, but I'm concerned about an out of warranty battery or drive unit. I need to know, how long does it take for you to supercharge the car in one session if the car is almost dead? I live in an apartment and wouldn't be able to charge in a garage so I would be relying on supercharging. What's your opinion?
Where do you guys buy your used Tesla’s?
You can always start by seeing what used offers are on Tesla's own website. I did a video on the used car sites I use, and Tesla-specific beginning at about 15 minutes in ua-cam.com/video/4ZgwePP6YEo/v-deo.html
I just bought a used 2014 Tesla model S 85 last week it’s great but my air suspension system needs to be replaced
Very interesting. I suspected an issue with our air suspension and it was one of the reasons we recently sold the Tesla in this video. I'm working on an episode now to discuss the reasons why we sold it. You got a quote on the cost to repair yet?
What's supercharge charging rate for your car now?
Can't say I ever took notice, and probably only ever supercharged 5 times. We actually sold the Tesla recently, but this video shows some data you might find helpful ua-cam.com/video/uVpjBWl5ccs/v-deo.html
My problem is always battery and ..warranty and cost of replacement
Next year the battery and drivetrain warranty will expire for my car. Had the drive unit replaced this year under warranty already though, and I have no worries about the battery since it's still showing 250 miles of range (down from 265 brand new) on a 7-year old pack. My biggest worry would be anything going wrong with the air suspension, so those looking to buy one may want to stick with coil springs for that reason.
Happy for you but I have had endless expensive issues. Used 2013 Tesla model s.
Yeah, it's actually been the most problem-prone EV we've owned. Nothing major really, just a lot of small things. We sold it earlier this year.
@@EVeverything do you mean the 2015 is better than the 2013 ?? I see a lot of 2013 on sale, maybe it is because they have issues
@@carlosvelasquez3279 ours was a 2014, but I think 2015 had the first versions of autopilot so that might have been cool for the car to back in and out of the garage. I think a bunch of these early Model S for sale are a bit of a gamble from a reliability standpoint.
The RWD Tesla's frunk has so much more space.
Definitely!
Did your cars warranty transfer? I want to buy an s if it comes with the 96 month unlimited warranty...
Also does your car map to super chargers automatically like the newer ones on long trips.
@@MuddierThenMost by the time I got the car, it only had the powertrain and battery warranty left and that expired sometime last year. All the repairs we've had to do have been out of pocket, as they were not related to powertrain or battery systems. Our map does route to superchargers along the way, and I feel like it did that ever since the 9.0 update.
I am actually looking at that model years as well. Did you get yours In Austin? What has been your experience with the Tesla shop? The only difference is I am looking for one with a bit more miles on it like 60 - 90 thousand miles. Trying to keep the purchase under 30k. If Austin Where? I would love to see a video of the buying process. 2 things I learned from my research so far. the yellow stuff on your screen Tesla will fix for free. it is under recall. It is a simple fix they use some kind of heat treatment instead of replacing the whole thing anymore. It is the glue that is leaking and causing the yellow discoloration. And the other you might want to check and see if you have cruise control you might have the self-driving 1.0 and is not as robust or have the same capabilities for the upgrade as newer models. 1.0 is basically cruise control plus so drive itself in stop and go traffic and at less than 5 miles an hour I believe and when set will follow the curves of the road on HWY. Not the next-level stuff like summons and stuff. And for other people looking at purchasing a newer used tesla not sure the year but at some point they now all have it. It's a software update you have to purchase from Tesla to enable it. Also if the previous owner paid for it most likely does not transfer it to the next owner.. The last question is how has the interior held up over the year?
I did not buy locally in Austin, but actually had it shipped from a place called Current Automotive in Illinois. It was the best deal I could find at the time, but I'm seeing options within your price range in Houston at a place called Ultimate Motorsport Inc and few at Houston Direct Auto. I do plan to shoot a video this week showing my process for looking at used EVs, so hopefully that will be published to the channel next week. I've only gone to the Tesla Service Center once to have a key fob replaced/reprogrammed and also got a tire rotation while I was there. It's too far north of town for me to be convenient, but it can be a little scary taking your Tesla to a local shop when they aren't necessarily experienced on servicing Teslas.
Does it supercharge?
Yes, that topic is discussed at 19:03. I failed to mention that supercharging is FREE on our Tesla for the life of the vehicle because it is an older year model.
Can you upgrade your MCU screen for 2K?
Yes, and I have considered that especially now that Tesla has lowered the price on that by $1K electrek.co/2021/01/22/tesla-slashes-price-media-unit-upgrade-amid-controversy/
@@EVeverything Do it. You won’t regret it!
@@EVeverything Don't pay for it, you should have been issued a warranty notification for the memory issue with mcu1. Get the upgrade for free from them 😉
@@vbaker4 yes I got the notification, but this only replaces the storage unit I believe. You won't get the new screen and features it provides just with the recall repair/replacement.
@@EVeverything You are correct. But with the features for a 2014 MS, it makes almost no sense to upgrade to MCU2. Keep enjoying free 3G, it's good enough for what it is.
What year is that model ?
2014
Handsome host. Very knowledgeable. Jealous of your vehicle!
Is there a spare tire??
No, but plenty of trunk space if you wanted to put one back there.
No exterior camera? Are you sure?
There is the backup camera, but no others on this older Model S.
Is the free supercharging stations available for a used 2015 model s ?
Should be, although I can't remember when they discontinued that. Should be a way to tell from the main screen I think, where mine used to show free supercharging and free data connectivity. Can't recall where exactly that was displayed, and we don't have the car anymore.
How tall are you?
5' 11"
Um. Disappointed. You described a car, not the ownership experience. What broke? What was service? What did this cost? Did superchargers work? Problems? NVH? Would you do it again? What should buyers do?
Little of this...
Sorry the approach was not quite what you expected. To answer some of your questions, fortunately nothing has broken or needed repair. It's possible the previous owners made some service visits to fix things, but no issues in my time owning the car. There was a recall on the Takata airbags, and a mobile Tesla mechanic did that fix in my driveway for free. The only Service Center visit I've made was to replace and reprogram my key fob which I managed to leave on my roof when driving off & was smashed to bits on the road. The total cost for a new key was $165 and I paid another $40 for a tire rotation while I was at the service center. I did an air filter change myself which is easy to install under the front hood, and paid maybe $15 for the filter. Superchargers have worked flawlessly and are free since my car is old enough to have free access for life. I would do it again, but could have gotten an even better price on a car like this now bc prices are even lower than when I was looking a year ago! Our latest video touches on the buying process, with the Tesla-specific segment beginning at around the 15-minute mark ua-cam.com/video/4ZgwePP6YEo/v-deo.html
Looking for 2013 or 2014 model s as my first ev/tesla .....having the hardest time finding decent prices
Yeah, I think used car prices are still up since the microchip shortage has been affecting new car production. Looks like any Model S under $30K comes with very high mileage. Just an fyi about these older cars, they are losing their 3G connectivity once AT&T retires its 3G network in February 2022. You'll have to pay $200 for Tesla to install a new modem, which is the situation we are fast approaching with our car. Only affects early models up to 2015 I think.
Ok so every model after 2015 wont less 3g connectivity
@@mariquesalexander5190 yes, only affects cars built before June 2015 according to the Tesla website. 3G is going away, so maybe the newer cars have the 4G-capable modem already?
I have the P85D 2014 and in incredible good car and I’m a bmw driver for 20 years !!!! The only I’m hoping the Elon musk let us upgrade for the new battery technology 2021 but in our car •••
FEW ideas !!! another Thing already upgrade my system MCU 2 March 2021 and is way better I pay the $1,500 upgrade 👍chance ... about the mileage got me crazy at the beginning because from my house to work is 6 miles by google but in reality consume like 8 to 10 but is normal base on Technitian because heat pump and other stuff contributes consume those ,,, the the technician said let him battery % better than miles 👍.. Car is really fast with INSANE ability is incredible •••• better than any supercars in the street “””... I loose my free supercharger ability because I purchased third party so I’m not happy with that ELON SHOULD let us remains that with a VIN number not with owner // so I’m hoping in a future that window open again for new owner or the change to purchase that like a upgrade!!!
That would be cool!
Honestly, the free Supercharging is probably the most underrated feature that only few Tesla owners have.
My 2013 Model S 60 looks just like this one! Love it. A lotta car for the money. But not perfect. Made a few videos documenting my experience as an owner if interested.
Checked out some of your videos, and sure am glad I haven't had to deal with any of those mechanical issues (yet). Also only one experience I've had so far scheduling a service appointment which went fine, and was actually surprised how cheap a tire rotation was ($40!). Keep up the good work, and I wish you success in your channel!
@@EVeverything Hey thanks! Keep up the great work! Will be looking to your channel for inspiration.
@@thomasmagnum5702 I would need to buy a low-profile floor jack and some Tesla-compatible jack stands. Actually considered it once, but figured I was ok paying $20 or so for a local auto shop to do my rotations. Do you rotate your own tires?
I think that the older model looks much better than the new ones. The nosecones gives it a face. Most new Teslas look like Amish dolls which have no face. You seem to have a good vehicle.
I also wasn't a fan of the new rim styles of newer Teslas, specifically the plastic looking ones on new S and Y models. But I guess when Cybertruck comes out, all style consistency will be gone anyway, ha!
"there's not that much room back here just enough for human bodies" ._.👀
I think I was talking about the headroom. The back seat is quite spacious, especially for a sedan.
Did you buys it from tesla or 3rd party
From a third party dealer. If you're wanting to add an extended warranty, then purchasing from Tesla directly might be your preferred option.
Not really a ’luxury’ car. A technologically advanced one yes, but not really a luxury one.
That might be true of the Model 3 and Y, but the interior of S and X models to me seems quite luxurious as far as comfort and quality. And that's not even describing my own car, which has older (less plush) seats and no alcantara material found in newer versions. Perhaps the lack of more cupholders and USB plugs hurts the luxury feel a bit.
@@EVeverything the material quality on the interior also needs improvement in my opinion.
@@kt10208 perhaps the refreshed Model S and X designs will address that.
Is this car really worth $35k?
Seems rather dated..
Guess that would be up to the individual to decide. Feels more modern than our newer 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, and far ahead of our previous 2015 Nissan Leaf. With the new Model S/X refresh design beginning this year, it now will start showing its age visually a bit.
@@EVeverything
Ok!
Teslas already at over 400 miles
Your Tesla?
Titles says experience after 1 year. 99% of video talks about nothing worthwhile besides what the car features are. What problems you ran into? What was good? Thumbs down 👎👎👎
Sorry to disappoint. For my negative feelings on the car there's this one ua-cam.com/video/1H4ojntxlNI/v-deo.htmlsi=OIpftUcaLLvu9kLP
2014? Old! New upgraded Model S just announced. 520 miles Plaid+!
If you got $140K to spend, definitely go for the Plaid+
A review of your old used telsa !!! Wow CHANGE THE TITLE
What model years would you like to have excluded from the used Tesla market?
Smart people avoid these and buy gas powered vehicles. EVs are a dead end. They'll never be the standard. People are suckers..
Well, if you say so.