Dynamic has its pluses, but a huge plus for static is that you are shooting like a compound is shot. The ability to hold anchor at full draw for several seconds can have huge merit in a hunting situation. In dynamic, once you start the cycle, it almost like your committed to making the shot even if the target animal shifts or moves during the cycle. I anchor off target and sometimes hold off target up to ten seconds to mimic an animal is approaching my shooting lane, then swing to point of aim and release. My release trigger, is the sight picture. Dynamic has never worked for me very well. It causes me to rush the shot, short release, jerk the bow off target, just like you said. I think a new archer may want to experiment with different styles of drawing cycles before making a decision about what works best for them, but I would recommend starting with a very light bow and try static first. Dynamic can cause you to develop some terrible short cut habits right out of the gate. If a person over bows in the beginning with too high of poundage, it can be tempting to go straight to dynamic because the heavy draw weight makes dynamic the only way they can shoot the bow.
All good points. But I do believe the best form for an arrow release is a dynamic shot. I will always be more of a static shooter. But If I could shoot good dynamic I would.
I shoot just like you do. Fletch my own arrows so fetching is about 1/2 inch from nose. I come to full anchor, then just a short pull, fletch touches nose. Shot instantly. Gives me the Best of both Static and Dynamic. Thank You.
Interesting! I ended up with a similar style of shooting for similar reasons. Pick a spot where you want the arrowhead to point at, full draw, get that spot you wanted, gentle nudge forward and go. It is a constant struggle with bad form creeping in though.
I creep all the time too. Is what it is and I dont worry about it when it happens. it never happens when I shoot blank bail for form. but as soon as I focus on hitting something i can ceep.
I use the Solid Grip Trigger from RMS Gear. You set your position, and then set it up so that you just apply a little tension in both directions until it pops. It's a quiet & unintrusive device.
Great tip. When I make a good static shot I’m probably doing what you just taught, and not knowing why I made good shot. Now I’ll know and check if I’m pushing at release.
100% mate. I've settled on a similar style. Lately I've found that the swing draw puts me in perfect alignment with bow arm solid and shoulder down but I hold at anchor to make sure I'm all lined up then concentrate on the target only and let the shot happen, puts arrows right on the money. I also find a push pull draw works well. The full static system has failed me when under pressure, like you say just opens up too many possibilities for stuff ups.
I shot static for so long probably because my lightest bow was around 60lb and the heaviest was 80+. Try letting that back tension flick the drawing hand back with those bows and there is a risk of injury. These days, I'm lucky to still shoot 60lb and I have modified my static release so that I must hit anchor and on the shot, the hand moves back from my anchor to my ear. Looks like the old 'cutting the throat' move. It's deliberate and controlled, but it can end up being a very fast shot and I have been accused of snap shooting but it's definitely not snap shooting.
I have had to do static on release hand because I sometimes end up in bad target/moving object panic where I have panic trouble in releasing arrow. dynamic/semi dynamic in bow handle hand where I am pushing in draw up to 1/2--2/3 of the way. I also find I can fix the alignment my shot again should that be off for or slowly moving object.
@@SamkoTradBow Yep like my brother who can nock arrow and shoot dynamic under 1 minute and sill do a Howard Hill/instinctive gap. For a pause he will only go 1/2 way or go back to neural and go again as he is so quick to a full proper shot. Helps he has Dual dormancy and almost 20/20 vison where he needs mainly for seeing further away/like HD not 480.
I have not been here in a minute. I used to be Tradbow Time. I decided to start making videos again maybe with a focus on music. I just wanted to share that my oldest son called me today and said he was buying a compound. I knew I should have put him up for adoption 😂. I have tried everything. I agree pulling through is probably the best. I also agree that hit an anchor and dump it is probably more controlled. Generally I would say it is always Minute Of Paper Plate at 15 to 20 yards which is plenty good to put meals on the table.
Congrats on the music videos! I agree 100% on the shooting. And both my kids went to compounds too. Just dont have the time to practice with busy lives.
This is just a thought. Not saying you are over bowed cause it does look like it. Would reducing weight to 55 or less help with the creep or is that just your natural tendency?
weight is no problem. I have shot 80 pound bows for years. The creep comes from me pushing my bow arm to release. I do not pull thru my release. many reasons for this for me personally. but it really boils down to if I try to pull on my release after being static holding I will at the same time pull my bow arm off target some. Im way more accurate pushing my release rather than pulling my release with my draw hand.
Jason, this is exactly why I shoot static and I now have control. This has helped me get my confidence back.
I have to shoot static as well. or I will fall apart in a couple days of dynamic.
Dynamic has its pluses, but a huge plus for static is that you are shooting like a compound is shot. The ability to hold anchor at full draw for several seconds can have huge merit in a hunting situation. In dynamic, once you start the cycle, it almost like your committed to making the shot even if the target animal shifts or moves during the cycle. I anchor off target and sometimes hold off target up to ten seconds to mimic an animal is approaching my shooting lane, then swing to point of aim and release. My release trigger, is the sight picture. Dynamic has never worked for me very well. It causes me to rush the shot, short release, jerk the bow off target, just like you said. I think a new archer may want to experiment with different styles of drawing cycles before making a decision about what works best for them, but I would recommend starting with a very light bow and try static first. Dynamic can cause you to develop some terrible short cut habits right out of the gate. If a person over bows in the beginning with too high of poundage, it can be tempting to go straight to dynamic because the heavy draw weight makes dynamic the only way they can shoot the bow.
All good points. But I do believe the best form for an arrow release is a dynamic shot. I will always be more of a static shooter. But If I could shoot good dynamic I would.
I shoot just like you do. Fletch my own arrows so fetching is about 1/2 inch from nose. I come to full anchor, then just a short pull, fletch touches nose. Shot instantly. Gives me the Best of both Static and Dynamic. Thank You.
Perfect system
Thanks
Interesting! I ended up with a similar style of shooting for similar reasons. Pick a spot where you want the arrowhead to point at, full draw, get that spot you wanted, gentle nudge forward and go. It is a constant struggle with bad form creeping in though.
I creep all the time too. Is what it is and I dont worry about it when it happens. it never happens when I shoot blank bail for form. but as soon as I focus on hitting something i can ceep.
I use the Solid Grip Trigger from RMS Gear. You set your position, and then set it up so that you just apply a little tension in both directions until it pops. It's a quiet & unintrusive device.
And honestly I've never seen a better release that you have. You shoot amazing
Jeff Kavanaugh's videos stressed "back tension" and it instantly changed my shooting for the better.
Back tension is the best way to get everything in line
Great tip. When I make a good static shot I’m probably doing what you just taught, and not knowing why I made good shot. Now I’ll know and check if I’m pushing at release.
has to be some kind of push or pull to make it consistent
100% mate. I've settled on a similar style. Lately I've found that the swing draw puts me in perfect alignment with bow arm solid and shoulder down but I hold at anchor to make sure I'm all lined up then concentrate on the target only and let the shot happen, puts arrows right on the money. I also find a push pull draw works well. The full static system has failed me when under pressure, like you say just opens up too many possibilities for stuff ups.
Agree 100%
solid anchor way better for hunting or moving game ...thats me but best target shooter cant say i am...thanks for knowledge..old man🙂
A solid anchor is always important with any style.
I shot static for so long probably because my lightest bow was around 60lb and the heaviest was 80+. Try letting that back tension flick the drawing hand back with those bows and there is a risk of injury. These days, I'm lucky to still shoot 60lb and I have modified my static release so that I must hit anchor and on the shot, the hand moves back from my anchor to my ear. Looks like the old 'cutting the throat' move. It's deliberate and controlled, but it can end up being a very fast shot and I have been accused of snap shooting but it's definitely not snap shooting.
Perfect
I have had to do static on release hand because I sometimes end up in bad target/moving object panic where I have panic trouble in releasing arrow. dynamic/semi dynamic in bow handle hand where I am pushing in draw up to 1/2--2/3 of the way. I also find I can fix the alignment my shot again should that be off for or slowly moving object.
Yep whatever style or blend works best for you is whats best.
@@SamkoTradBow Yep like my brother who can nock arrow and shoot dynamic under 1 minute and sill do a Howard Hill/instinctive gap. For a pause he will only go 1/2 way or go back to neural and go again as he is so quick to a full proper shot. Helps he has Dual dormancy and almost 20/20 vison where he needs mainly for seeing further away/like HD not 480.
@@SamkoTradBow Nice feature of our shooting is we can hold if we need to and if good enough rotate on a slow-moving object in same vertical line.
I have not been here in a minute. I used to be Tradbow Time. I decided to start making videos again maybe with a focus on music. I just wanted to share that my oldest son called me today and said he was buying a compound. I knew I should have put him up for adoption 😂. I have tried everything. I agree pulling through is probably the best. I also agree that hit an anchor and dump it is probably more controlled. Generally I would say it is always Minute Of Paper Plate at 15 to 20 yards which is plenty good to put meals on the table.
Congrats on the music videos! I agree 100% on the shooting. And both my kids went to compounds too. Just dont have the time to practice with busy lives.
This is just a thought. Not saying you are over bowed cause it does look like it. Would reducing weight to 55 or less help with the creep or is that just your natural tendency?
weight is no problem. I have shot 80 pound bows for years. The creep comes from me pushing my bow arm to release. I do not pull thru my release. many reasons for this for me personally. but it really boils down to if I try to pull on my release after being static holding I will at the same time pull my bow arm off target some. Im way more accurate pushing my release rather than pulling my release with my draw hand.