From my observation being a accurate shooter with a traditional bow is 10% the bow and 90% the skills of the shooter. Also, I agree with you on the Selway stringer. I own one and it’s terrific.
@@SamkoTradBow Bear Grizzly non Super is about $400 for now. Your son's first bow is most likely Shakespear Seirra X18_ _ that was made only during years of 1965--1976 before Shakespear stopped making the second generation of non fiberglass bows entirely becuse second generation more modern compound bows came out that were much better then the odd multi wheel/cam bows yet still finger useable so the people stopped buying a traditional bow and Shakespear realized that the old bows were not selling so they sold that traditional part to Eagle/Golden Eagle, what became Onida bows, who eventually stopped when they came out with lever and compound bows the then under Onida for the Lever and Golden Egale for the made different models of compound made until early 2000's last compound made in South Dakota with the Onida lever bows made elsewhere.
If I could still shoot trad bows, I would find me another Old Bear or Ben Pearson at a garage sale, flea market or pawn shop. I've found a bunch of nice bows like that.
Agree 100%. Ive been shooting vintage recurves, for 50 years. Bear, Wing, Hoyt, Shakespeare just to name a few. They kill game just as easy as other bows, no matter the cost.
I totally agree with you. At age 83, I now have physical limitations which prevent me from bow hunting any longer, but I am Old School and still prefer traditional & primitive archery. I made my first bow 70+ years ago. I went through several years when I used a compound, but my preference is still a beautiful recurve made by the late Jim Taylor which I purchased about b30 years ago before his untimely death. He lived about 30 minutes from a town in NW Alabama where at that time I served as pastor. Great video! Lots of common sense. 'Hope you and your family had a blessed Christmas!
Something I've noticed over several different hobbies is how good entry level equipment has gotten. Between guitars, luthier equipment, and bows, any professional level user could easily get by with whatever is for sale at the beginner price point. With the explosion of hobbies, there's such a demand these days for gear and tools that the competition between brands is really strong, and thus pushing out pretty quality stuff with relative affordability. I don't think this phenomenon is going to last too long, but right now I'd say we're in a golden era for trying out new hobbies. Not like 20 years ago when you wanted to start playing guitar and all you had were really bad instruments at the beginner level. I have several bows under $300, one at $120, and another at $200, all 3 are excellent in looks, style, usability, and reliability. I've killed several deer with them and target practice is the same as it would be with a $1000 bow. Only difference is buying a $1000 bow would make me never want to use it and if I dinged it up I'd never forgive myself lol
I paid $70.00 dollars for a bow from Temu last week,it’s straight up gorgeous very impressed,I get most of my hunting equipment from there,not once have I been disappointed.
This is such a good video all these other UA-camrs that are saying and talking about having to have a custom-made bow just to go out and hunt on the weekends are BS. That’s just discouraging new hunters in my opinion buy a bow you can afford hunt with it and if you like it, save up for a nice customer later
I have 5 bows acquired over a 15 year period, costing from $170 to $600. They all shoot great. They're all as accurate as my shooting ability. A nice looking custom bow would be great to own, but not necessary to shoot well. Another great video.
I have a lot of custom trad bows that add up to more than what I paid for my little commuter car. Having said that my favorite hunting bow is bootleg Samick Sage copy with an old plastic Martin quiver. It's a killing machine. Having said that nothing wrong with waiting months for a Northern Mist or other custom bow and spending 💰💰💰 the money on a custom bow rather than a big screen TV as the bow 🏹 is timeless. God gave us bows, arrows, stones, fire 🔥 and natural resources to be used and from cheap to expensive.... everything we invest in primitive and traditional archery is an investment that will last long after modern toys and gadgets. Burry me with my stick and string when the time comes. These trad bows 🏹 are forever and long after compounds come and go.....cheap to expensive the trad bows are one of our greatest gifts from God. Merry Christmas brother and we are all thankful for your channel. Praying for you and we are your biggest fans here at Bishop Archery ❤️
Great video!! I do happen to agree with you.. I do own a custom Bama long bow.. best long bow I've ever used.. very expensive, yes.. but the grizzly is my all time favorite, recurve.. very good quality bow!! Being disabled now, not able to hunt well, with my Custom Bama. But, the recurve is little more forgiving. Lol. Thanks for great vid...
I completely agree with all this. I have a variety of bows but my most expensive is my gillo ilf. I have two greatree bows highlander and outrage. The highlander was/is my favorite. Then I have a couple horsebows. Point being only one of my bows was over 200 bucks. I love cheaper bows.
The first recurve bow I ever got was a bear Kodiak magnum that was given to me by a friend. I had it for several years until it snapped when I went to string it for my daughter
I recently bought one of those cheapo Amazon black hunter takedown longbows in 40lbs as my first bow since I was like 10. From everything I’d seen I figured it would probably shoot better than I can for at least a while and as I get used to the motor pattern of shooting a bow/if I ever decide to try to go after elk or moose, or if the limbs do break, I can get heavier/replacement limbs for cheap.
Excellent video. My current favorite bow is a Chinese Pharos 17" riser with some October Mountain limbs. Whole setup ran me about $300, looks like some uber cool ninja assassin's bow, has mounts for a quiver and sights and shoots great. I think the company also makes some expensive "American" branded stuff as well.
I absolutely love my Fox Archery High Sierra model custom recurve. It cost me over $1000.00 ttwenty years ago, I shoot it so well, and I've shot at least eight elk and a few deer with it. But if I had to go out next year with a Samick Sage, or a Greatree Osprey, or my pawn shop Browning Safari II, I wouldnt feel at all handicapped out in the woods.
I bought my "Traditional Only" Cairn, from 3 rivers, which I guess is a rebranded Sage, based on Jeff Phillip's review, I have never been happier, I worked my way up from35#,45# and 50# limbs so I have plenty of backup limbs and coming from 3Rivers I know they checked the weights, tiller and such.
That is great advice! I agree 100%. I was selling that same Grizzly as a teenager out of the Bear Archery Shop of Detroit in the mid 60's. Amazingly popular through the years because of price and performance. It made it easy to get into the woods for the Archery Season and probably contributed to growing access to and growing the popularity of bowhunting.
I see Alot of People with Top Shelf Bows with ZERO Woods Skills. Fine tuned Woodsman ship, Anyone can Get a Deer under a Tree with Any Walmart bow and SHARP Broadhead. Agree on the Selway Stringer. The Best
Yep, a bow is technically just a spring. No doubt some are better than others, but I have a lot of bows, expensive and otherwise. I have Black Widows, and a bunch of Bears, of new and old vintage, along with a few longbows, including a Northern Mist, and a couple of Howard Hills. Nothing wrong with my Black Widows, but my favorite recurves are old Bear's, with my favorite being a rejected second, dug out of the dumpster at Bear Archery, by "Mr. Scott", as my nephew called him, and gifted to my nephew many years ago, and finally gifted to me, from my nephew. So, an old rejected 57# Bear Super Kodiak dug out of the dumpster, at Bear Archery, many years ago, is still my favorite recurve bow. It flings a heavy arrow better than any bow I own.
Great video. I have 3 bear recurves. All 3 are over 50 years old. They all still shoot great. I agree with you. I have had bows thay cost between $500 and $750 They don't shoot any better than my old Bears. Practice , Practice , Practice. The price of the bow won't make anyone a better shot
I have to agree. Most of accuracy is from arrow spine and length choice, how you set up your bow from noc points to serving, arrow rest, etc., and how the arrow is aimed and released along with the a sheer number of arrows you have sent downrange -- not the bow itself.
Absolutely 100% correct on this video 👍 I have 2 100.00 pse recurve bows and not to brag but I am harvesting enough deer every year to fill the freezers. I haven't been able to afford a high end bow or don't even know who or what brands are considered high end. I practice all the time and learn my 2 bows and I believe that matters most. Great video and keep em coming!
Samick sage when you think about it will shoot and take any animal. 19 inch riser with a target type sight window and medium limbs with accuracy. I shoot expensive bows as well but when I take out my black hunter longbows and just shoot so well I'm in awe that I spent so little money with great performance and accuracy..
That little vintage record you brought out at 4:30.Could be a Wasp m, Wing, Browning, or a bunch of makers making bows that looked essentially just like it. They all work to this day. S ome of them are really fast. And I'd pay somebody $300.00 hundred dollars for that Martin Mamba today, if it was right handed. That is the best 58" bow i've ever shot.
After watching this video & reading more about your channel, I decided to subscribe. It nis getting late, and I need to get to bed.I have to do a funeral tomorrow.
I have a tradtec titian 2 with carbon wood limbs and set up to shoot plunger . This ILF bow is acurate . But my go to hunting bow is a black hunter shooting off the shelf. No ajustments it's shoot what you got bow for the most part tune the arrows to the bow setup. One black hunter is 55# but have to go to lighter weight for a bit so instead of just buying lighter limbs it wasnt that much more to just a whole new bow. So 40# black hunter is what I am working on now.
Another cheap and amazing alternative is a Sanlida Osprey. Its a hunting recurve so its only 58 inches long so its so easy to carry and manipulate, and it has e metal riser. And its a beast! And it also cost less than 100 dollars.
I fell in love with trad archery on a sub 100 dollar longbow 😂 on the list for one of Gregg Coffey's Elkhearts but would have had zero idea what I really want and what to appreciate if I didn't start somewhere.
I'm terrible with recurves, I don't know why but I have a terrible habit of shooting high with them. Compounds and crossbows I'm nearly perfect with. I practice and practice and practice with my recurve, and I'm okay on the range, but terrible in the moment that counts.
If a hunter has a picture of himself with a Samick Sage and a 10 point buck the first thing I'm going to be is impressed. That's a hunter that has probably done his homework and put out some real effort to become proficient is what I would be thinking. As the quality of the weapon and the killing power rises from trad bow, to compound, to cross bow, to muzzle loader, to shotgun and finally to high power rifle ,I start to think about how it became easier to take the animal.Oh and bye the way I shoot a PSE impala for my trad bow.
hated taking my sage to the 3d shoots. Not because of the bow but because I have almost walked off with the wrong bow so many times. But I also like to build and shoot my own wood arrows. To compete on the same plain I wanted a long bow. So I ended up with an A&H that I got for 500 bucks. Easier to find on the bow rack , not worried about someone picking it up by accident . That said it's a bit long to sit nicely in the back of the jeep , so yes the sage is set up for hunting the A&H for competition and I like it that way
If a bow can toss a 10gpp arrow at around 150fps, which most if not all modern bows will, then you should be able to shoot it pretty accurately. Even the fiberglass rod horse bows on Amazon can probably achieve this and they're normally like 50$
Great point on what to take on "the hunt of a lifetime." Another possibility- I'd rather lose 2 $120 bows to lost luggage than one or two of my $1500 sweethearts!!
I got a sage a ragim impalla and s lot of asl longbow,jerry hill ,great plains and victorian style longbow (inkluding the most handschocking bow that i ever shoot(three shoots,even with 700grain arrows and your hand is useless)
"A bow never killed anything on earth, the arrow does all the work, the bow is just a spring" some Dr. guy named Ed I shoot all Bear bows , I grew up watching Fred he's the reason I started bow and ARROW hunting ❤. I also Know that No amount of money spent on a bow can or will make you shoot better. now Arrows can make or break you 😊
Merry christmas !! does anyone make a budget asl/hill style bow with a straight grip ? I bought a few long bows but they have locator grips and thinner limbs. 68 inches but reflex deflex. I really want a stright limb straight grip. guess ill have to start building them , lol.
Have you tried the chinese brands arrows aswell? Also SO much money to save, and they are just the same imho. I mean dont buy the weirdly cheap ones (those are like garden/toy arrows... some kind of glassfiber) but the popular proper chinese brands like Sharrow, Linkedboy etc. Also you can most of the times see what type of carbon on top of the normal statistics. So cheap you wont bother repairing arrows anymore and jsut order a batch of new ones ;)
I doesn't matter at all aslong ass you got hight draw weight and tuned arrows I got a 180 traditanol recurve and I can outshoot guys with black widow's
Do you "Need" a custom one no, but they're definitely sure nice to own and shoot lol. Many of these cheap, mass produced bows aren't marked for poundage properly and their grips are IMO terrible. Now can you modify a grip, absolutely but you can't fix a bow that arrives way over poundage because they marked it wrong in China. Now many bowyers are starting to but these cheap Chinese bows and rework them, make sure they are tillered correctly and the limbs are actually marked correctly plus they add a quality bowstring to them. IF I were buying one of these cheap bows, I'd go to someone like Great Plains Traditional Bow Company and get one done properly for a small increase in price over the original Amazon version.
Only avoid bows that look like they used an old 1980's compound frame for the model especially modern models made from China, then avoid cheap models made that look like they are an early 2020's Ai model of what a bow looks like, then avoid specific one pice SAS modles, and then a bow that would be okay but due to bamboo, Deerseeker Hunter a nearly recurve bow becuse they keep using the bad bamboo of 2019 where the bows tend to be on most off weight for the good models or the bamboo breaks as is seen on this under $120 one piece bow unless you bought model in a 20 or 15 pound bow then the model tends to be accurate.
Meh. I don't really owe some guy in Pennsylvania or Montana my business if some other guy In South Korea can make something just as good, for much less, that puts trophies on my mantel or meat in my freezer.
i dont buy wooden bows anymore if i do then only if thers a metal rod emnedded because giess what? such a cheap bow with 45pounds one snaped in my hands and into my face
From my observation being a accurate shooter with a traditional bow is 10% the bow and 90% the skills of the shooter. Also, I agree with you on the Selway stringer. I own one and it’s terrific.
Agree on all points
@@SamkoTradBow Bear Grizzly non Super is about $400 for now. Your son's first bow is most likely Shakespear Seirra X18_ _ that was made only during years of 1965--1976 before Shakespear stopped making the second generation of non fiberglass bows entirely becuse second generation more modern compound bows came out that were much better then the odd multi wheel/cam bows yet still finger useable so the people stopped buying a traditional bow and Shakespear realized that the old bows were not selling so they sold that traditional part to Eagle/Golden Eagle, what became Onida bows, who eventually stopped when they came out with lever and compound bows the then under Onida for the Lever and Golden Egale for the made different models of compound made until early 2000's last compound made in South Dakota with the Onida lever bows made elsewhere.
@caseysmith544 excellent information. Thank you. Greatly appreciated
If I could still shoot trad bows, I would find me another Old Bear or Ben Pearson at a garage sale, flea market or pawn shop. I've found a bunch of nice bows like that.
@jackyhallmark3094 you can finger shoot a Gen-x from Genesis archery.
Agree 100%. Ive been shooting vintage recurves, for 50 years. Bear, Wing, Hoyt, Shakespeare just to name a few. They kill game just as easy as other bows, no matter the cost.
Got a samick red stag at a yard sale years ago, absolutely great bow... it's not a fred bear, but its definitely enough.
Great Plains Traditional Bows Company will buy a batch of budget bows, fix the imperfections and resale em.
THANK YOU, FOR THIS PRACTICAL DISCUSSION OF THE ESSENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS, ABOUT AFFORDABLE "TRADITIONAL BOWS" ["SHARED"]
I totally agree with you. At age 83, I now have physical limitations which prevent me from bow hunting any longer, but I am Old School and still prefer traditional & primitive archery. I made my first bow 70+ years ago. I went through several years when I used a compound, but my preference is still a beautiful recurve made by the late Jim Taylor which I purchased about b30 years ago before his untimely death. He lived about 30 minutes from a town in NW Alabama where at that time I served as pastor. Great video! Lots of common sense. 'Hope you and your family had a blessed Christmas!
Something I've noticed over several different hobbies is how good entry level equipment has gotten. Between guitars, luthier equipment, and bows, any professional level user could easily get by with whatever is for sale at the beginner price point. With the explosion of hobbies, there's such a demand these days for gear and tools that the competition between brands is really strong, and thus pushing out pretty quality stuff with relative affordability. I don't think this phenomenon is going to last too long, but right now I'd say we're in a golden era for trying out new hobbies. Not like 20 years ago when you wanted to start playing guitar and all you had were really bad instruments at the beginner level.
I have several bows under $300, one at $120, and another at $200, all 3 are excellent in looks, style, usability, and reliability. I've killed several deer with them and target practice is the same as it would be with a $1000 bow. Only difference is buying a $1000 bow would make me never want to use it and if I dinged it up I'd never forgive myself lol
I paid $70.00 dollars for a bow from Temu last week,it’s straight up gorgeous very impressed,I get most of my hunting equipment from there,not once have I been disappointed.
Which one?
You'd do an awesome instructional video series of how to select a trad bow, sizes, draws, shooting and assorted gear...
Love your channel
Thanks
This is such a good video all these other UA-camrs that are saying and talking about having to have a custom-made bow just to go out and hunt on the weekends are BS. That’s just discouraging new hunters in my opinion buy a bow you can afford hunt with it and if you like it, save up for a nice customer later
Yep
I have 5 bows acquired over a 15 year period, costing from $170 to $600. They all shoot great. They're all as accurate as my shooting ability. A nice looking custom bow would be great to own, but not necessary to shoot well. Another great video.
@@GeezerDust very true.
I have a lot of custom trad bows that add up to more than what I paid for my little commuter car. Having said that my favorite hunting bow is bootleg Samick Sage copy with an old plastic Martin quiver. It's a killing machine.
Having said that nothing wrong with waiting months for a Northern Mist or other custom bow and spending 💰💰💰 the money on a custom bow rather than a big screen TV as the bow 🏹 is timeless.
God gave us bows, arrows, stones, fire 🔥 and natural resources to be used and from cheap to expensive.... everything we invest in primitive and traditional archery is an investment that will last long after modern toys and gadgets. Burry me with my stick and string when the time comes.
These trad bows 🏹 are forever and long after compounds come and go.....cheap to expensive the trad bows are one of our greatest gifts from God.
Merry Christmas brother and we are all thankful for your channel. Praying for you and we are your biggest fans here at Bishop Archery ❤️
Great video!! I do happen to agree with you.. I do own a custom Bama long bow.. best long bow I've ever used.. very expensive, yes.. but the grizzly is my all time favorite, recurve.. very good quality bow!! Being disabled now, not able to hunt well, with my Custom Bama. But, the recurve is little more forgiving. Lol. Thanks for great vid...
Great video. I’ve got a few custom recurves. I started on a Samick Sage. Still love it!! It’s my favourite for sure.
I have an old 40# Ben Pearson Colt as my main bow my back up is an even older 50# Ben Pearson Colt. Love them both.
I completely agree with all this. I have a variety of bows but my most expensive is my gillo ilf. I have two greatree bows highlander and outrage. The highlander was/is my favorite. Then I have a couple horsebows. Point being only one of my bows was over 200 bucks. I love cheaper bows.
The first recurve bow I ever got was a bear Kodiak magnum that was given to me by a friend. I had it for several years until it snapped when I went to string it for my daughter
I recently bought one of those cheapo Amazon black hunter takedown longbows in 40lbs as my first bow since I was like 10. From everything I’d seen I figured it would probably shoot better than I can for at least a while and as I get used to the motor pattern of shooting a bow/if I ever decide to try to go after elk or moose, or if the limbs do break, I can get heavier/replacement limbs for cheap.
@@19DannyBoy65 perfect
Excellent video. My current favorite bow is a Chinese Pharos 17" riser with some October Mountain limbs. Whole setup ran me about $300, looks like some uber cool ninja assassin's bow, has mounts for a quiver and sights and shoots great. I think the company also makes some expensive "American" branded stuff as well.
I absolutely love my Fox Archery High Sierra model custom recurve. It cost me over $1000.00 ttwenty years ago, I shoot it so well, and I've shot at least eight elk and a few deer with it.
But if I had to go out next year with a Samick Sage, or a Greatree Osprey, or my pawn shop Browning Safari II, I wouldnt feel at all handicapped out in the woods.
@@stephenballard3759 very well said
I have a black hunter. It shoots as good as any of my more expensive bows. It's actually the one I shoot daily at the moment.
@@jeffchapman678 great bow
I bought my "Traditional Only" Cairn, from 3 rivers, which I guess is a rebranded Sage, based on Jeff Phillip's review, I have never been happier, I worked my way up from35#,45# and 50# limbs so I have plenty of backup limbs and coming from 3Rivers I know they checked the weights, tiller and such.
That is great advice! I agree 100%. I was selling that same Grizzly as a teenager out of the Bear Archery Shop of Detroit in the mid 60's. Amazingly popular through the years because of price and performance. It made it easy to get into the woods for the Archery Season and probably contributed to growing access to and growing the popularity of bowhunting.
@paullewis5045 yep these bows made more bowhunters than people realize. Affordable and good mattered
I see Alot of People with Top Shelf Bows with ZERO Woods Skills. Fine tuned Woodsman ship, Anyone can Get a Deer under a Tree with Any Walmart bow and SHARP Broadhead.
Agree on the Selway Stringer. The Best
I am still shooting 40 year old Samick and Wahgok recurves in 3D competition and winning. James from Australia. Like your video!
Yep, a bow is technically just a spring. No doubt some are better than others, but I have a lot of bows, expensive and otherwise. I have Black Widows, and a bunch of Bears, of new and old vintage, along with a few longbows, including a Northern Mist, and a couple of Howard Hills. Nothing wrong with my Black Widows, but my favorite recurves are old Bear's, with my favorite being a rejected second, dug out of the dumpster at Bear Archery, by "Mr. Scott", as my nephew called him, and gifted to my nephew many years ago, and finally gifted to me, from my nephew. So, an old rejected 57# Bear Super Kodiak dug out of the dumpster, at Bear Archery, many years ago, is still my favorite recurve bow. It flings a heavy arrow better than any bow I own.
@@nevadafitch5647 love it.
Great video.
I have 3 bear recurves.
All 3 are over 50 years old.
They all still shoot great.
I agree with you.
I have had bows thay cost between $500 and $750
They don't shoot any better than my old Bears.
Practice , Practice , Practice.
The price of the bow won't make anyone a better shot
I have that northern mist bow. It’s a good shooter.
I have to agree. Most of accuracy is from arrow spine and length choice, how you set up your bow from noc points to serving, arrow rest, etc., and how the arrow is aimed and released along with the a sheer number of arrows you have sent downrange -- not the bow itself.
Absolutely 100% correct on this video 👍 I have 2 100.00 pse recurve bows and not to brag but I am harvesting enough deer every year to fill the freezers. I haven't been able to afford a high end bow or don't even know who or what brands are considered high end. I practice all the time and learn my 2 bows and I believe that matters most. Great video and keep em coming!
@@dannybyrdjr919 perfect!
Love my Bear Super Grizzly 50#.
Merry Christmas from Bordeaux, France 🏹🎄🎅
Samick sage when you think about it will shoot and take any animal. 19 inch riser with a target type sight window and medium limbs with accuracy. I shoot expensive bows as well but when I take out my black hunter longbows and just shoot so well I'm in awe that I spent so little money with great performance and accuracy..
@@bradlauber9097 well said
That little vintage record you brought out at 4:30.Could be a Wasp m, Wing, Browning, or a bunch of makers making bows that looked essentially just like it. They all work to this day.
S ome of them are really fast.
And I'd pay somebody $300.00 hundred dollars for that Martin Mamba today, if it was right handed. That is the best 58" bow i've ever shot.
@stephenballard3759 very true on the garage bow. And love the mamba!
After watching this video & reading more about your channel, I decided to subscribe. It nis getting late, and I need to get to bed.I have to do a funeral tomorrow.
It’s like you know exactly what videos I want to see 👍🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@Coyote5555 glad you enjoyed it
I have a tradtec titian 2 with carbon wood limbs and set up to shoot plunger . This ILF bow is acurate . But my go to hunting bow is a black hunter shooting off the shelf. No ajustments it's shoot what you got bow for the most part tune the arrows to the bow setup. One black hunter is 55# but have to go to lighter weight for a bit so instead of just buying lighter limbs it wasnt that much more to just a whole new bow. So 40# black hunter is what I am working on now.
@@tonypace2009 perfect
Love your videos,down to earth.Merry Christmas to you and yours
Merry Christmas
The bow I use more than any other is a Southwest Archery Spyder xl 35#. By far. About $150.00. If I lost it, id buy another the same day.
@@michaellacy8510 perfect
Another cheap and amazing alternative is a Sanlida Osprey. Its a hunting recurve so its only 58 inches long so its so easy to carry and manipulate, and it has e metal riser. And its a beast! And it also cost less than 100 dollars.
Perfect
I was thinking of getting a Bear super mag 48 just for it being shorter?
I fell in love with trad archery on a sub 100 dollar longbow 😂 on the list for one of Gregg Coffey's Elkhearts but would have had zero idea what I really want and what to appreciate if I didn't start somewhere.
@@christianb5110 great point. And Greg is a great guy thst builds a great bow
I'm terrible with recurves, I don't know why but I have a terrible habit of shooting high with them. Compounds and crossbows I'm nearly perfect with. I practice and practice and practice with my recurve, and I'm okay on the range, but terrible in the moment that counts.
I'm thinking about buying the sanlieda helmet x10. You ever heard any thing about it?
@DixieBowhunter-m5g i have not seen or heard of that
If a hunter has a picture of himself with a Samick Sage and a 10 point buck the first thing I'm going to be is impressed. That's a hunter that has probably done his homework and put out some real effort to become proficient is what I would be thinking. As the quality of the weapon and the killing power rises from trad bow, to compound, to cross bow, to muzzle loader, to shotgun and finally to high power rifle ,I start to think about how it became easier to take the animal.Oh and bye the way I shoot a PSE impala for my trad bow.
Well said
hated taking my sage to the 3d shoots. Not because of the bow but because I have almost walked off with the wrong bow so many times. But I also like to build and shoot my own wood arrows. To compete on the same plain I wanted a long bow. So I ended up with an A&H that I got for 500 bucks. Easier to find on the bow rack , not worried about someone picking it up by accident . That said it's a bit long to sit nicely in the back of the jeep , so yes the sage is set up for hunting the A&H for competition and I like it that way
@@sprk11 perfect
Last time any new bear grizzly was $350 and under had to be 2008ish
If a bow can toss a 10gpp arrow at around 150fps, which most if not all modern bows will, then you should be able to shoot it pretty accurately. Even the fiberglass rod horse bows on Amazon can probably achieve this and they're normally like 50$
The one with the camo painted limbs looks really like a Browning Nomad recurve
I had one of those a few moons ago. Lol 😂
@@JBs-Trad4Critters very well could be
I was given a Browning Safari 2 and looks very similar. I need to get a string and arrows and have some fun.
💯 percent, just he NON shooting shooter. I used a fiberglass 30# till 84. Had a arrow ledge.
Great point on what to take on "the hunt of a lifetime." Another possibility- I'd rather lose 2 $120 bows to lost luggage than one or two of my $1500 sweethearts!!
I got a sage a ragim impalla and s lot of asl longbow,jerry hill ,great plains and victorian style longbow (inkluding the most handschocking bow that i ever shoot(three shoots,even with 700grain arrows and your hand is useless)
"A bow never killed anything on earth, the arrow does all the work, the bow is just a spring"
some Dr. guy named Ed
I shoot all Bear bows , I grew up watching Fred he's the reason I started bow and ARROW hunting ❤. I also Know that No amount of money spent on a bow can or will make you shoot better. now Arrows can make or break you 😊
@@ravenflight88 very true
Looking to buy a traditional bow for target and eventually deer if I’m accurate after a few years. Anyone have suggestions of quality traditionals?
@LeeBro999 samick sage, black hunter bow, any custom made bow, bear bows, black widow bows, etc. All are great
Merry christmas !! does anyone make a budget asl/hill style bow with a straight grip ? I bought a few long bows but they have locator grips and thinner limbs. 68 inches but reflex deflex. I really want a stright limb straight grip. guess ill have to start building them , lol.
@doncampbell1961 not sure of a low cost asl. Donnie at creekwalker trading builds an amazing one but not sure how much his prices are now.
What about cheap long bows that don’t need a stringer? Do you know of any that aren’t bad when compared to those fiberglass ones on amazon?
It's hard to buy a bad bow today. They are all made well
Nice video jason
Have you tried the chinese brands arrows aswell? Also SO much money to save, and they are just the same imho. I mean dont buy the weirdly cheap ones (those are like garden/toy arrows... some kind of glassfiber) but the popular proper chinese brands like Sharrow, Linkedboy etc. Also you can most of the times see what type of carbon on top of the normal statistics.
So cheap you wont bother repairing arrows anymore and jsut order a batch of new ones ;)
I have not yet but plan too try the Amazon shafts
@@SamkoTradBow oh nice! Plz let us know if you find some good ones there
I doesn't matter at all aslong ass you got hight draw weight and tuned arrows I got a 180 traditanol recurve and I can outshoot guys with black widow's
Hig draw weight for natural high speeds
Do you "Need" a custom one no, but they're definitely sure nice to own and shoot lol. Many of these cheap, mass produced bows aren't marked for poundage properly and their grips are IMO terrible. Now can you modify a grip, absolutely but you can't fix a bow that arrives way over poundage because they marked it wrong in China. Now many bowyers are starting to but these cheap Chinese bows and rework them, make sure they are tillered correctly and the limbs are actually marked correctly plus they add a quality bowstring to them. IF I were buying one of these cheap bows, I'd go to someone like Great Plains Traditional Bow Company and get one done properly for a small increase in price over the original Amazon version.
Only avoid bows that look like they used an old 1980's compound frame for the model especially modern models made from China, then avoid cheap models made that look like they are an early 2020's Ai model of what a bow looks like, then avoid specific one pice SAS modles, and then a bow that would be okay but due to bamboo, Deerseeker Hunter a nearly recurve bow becuse they keep using the bad bamboo of 2019 where the bows tend to be on most off weight for the good models or the bamboo breaks as is seen on this under $120 one piece bow unless you bought model in a 20 or 15 pound bow then the model tends to be accurate.
Yall can be happy with your Chinese knockoffs, and I'll stick with my made in America by Americans custom made.
Meh. I don't really owe some guy in Pennsylvania or Montana my business if some other guy In South Korea can make something just as good, for much less, that puts trophies on my mantel or meat in my freezer.
i dont buy wooden bows anymore if i do then only if thers a metal rod emnedded because giess what? such a cheap bow with 45pounds one snaped in my hands and into my face