Building an Alternator Powered Bike
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2021
- A few years ago I converted a car alternator into a go kart motor. In this video I build an alternator powered bicycle. I originally tried controlling the motor with a sensorless controller but did not achieve the performance that I was hoping for. After installing hall effect sensors into the motor the results have far exceeded my expectations. The alternator is from a 1998 Ford F-150.
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Building an Alternator Powered Bike - Part 2
• Building an Alternator...
Converting a Car Alternator into a Go Kart Motor:
• Converting a Car Alter...
Hall Effect Sensor Placement Article:
mitrocketscience.blogspot.com/...
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@@szsr6458 same
Could you put another alternator on the front to power the other alternator engine!
Really appreciate him saving us time that no one should ever waste on youtube videos
In the back pages of popular mechanics there was always a small ad saying “build an electric go cart with an alternator “ or something close to that - that was 40 years ago! Good to see it in action! Cheers
I really enjoyed this video. I am an old Electronics Technician who worked on the latest technology in high end Quadraphonic / Stereo systems in the late 70's. Really proud of what you accomplished.
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Aw dude I'm old enough to be your grandfather and I'm really happy you stuck with this project and made it work. Nice job! (And for American viewers.....top speed of 69 KPH is 42 MPH.)
"I was determined to make it work". Those are usually the last words I say before draining my bank account.
I said the same thing about my marriage lmao
Got the T-shirt....
Likewise.
There's a master's/doctoral thesis waiting to happen on this behavior.
good girlfriend joke
Awesome job I made the comment about adding a smaller alternator to recharge your batteries and maybe double the time of the 30 minutes you have driving. I was wondering if you saw the UA-cam video where the kid in the third world country used a well-kept secret in using water to power his engine on a scooter. Is that really possible? It looked real.
Excellent example of ingenuity and dogged perseverance. We need more young men like you. Well Done!
@MichaelKingsfordGray Damn nobody asked tho
From his name, I know that he's and ebiker in the 18650 zipcode. That's more than we actually need to know about him lol
@@gunners4129 lol I think 18650 refers to the commonly found lithium ion batteries he uses
Ah 👌 thanks
@@gunners4129 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We need more young people like you please continue and please Inspire other young people our future is in your hands. And I really do mean this our future is in y'all's hands God bless
Nice adding hall sensor wiring to a alternator is beyond awsome
i didn't understand what changes in the motor adding hall sensor? increase speed, torque? what?
@@marcosfilipe4468 im pretty sure its for the controler to know where the shaft is but u can now use different controllers like the ones i use from amazon that have a hall sensor connection
You give me great hope young man. There IS much to delight in about the young generation. Your work ethic is commendable. Your physics knowledge is brilliant. You can do anything you want and go far in whatever worthy endeavor you choose. You have ALL IT TAKES. I SALUTE! you, sir. Best wishes for you in whatever you choose. Go FORWARD, knowing you are a GOOD YOUNG MAN. God bless you.
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Your shared link is super accurate.
I think you manage to combine your Electric Engineering skills with your ability to work with your hands. Well done. Most people either understand theory or can work with their hands.
You have managed to master both.
Oh, almost forgot, you need to understand the fundamental principals, then have vision how to apply.
Right! This is the kinda engineer you want with you in deep space when your space ship goes tits up. 🤣😂😄
very true. that is why I like UA-cam because I can find people who know / appreciate both aspects. Many years ago I asked some friends who are electrical engineers how the power company makes electricity (the basic overview) and they just laughed at me (I wasn't looking for an indepth class), now I found so many videos that shares the basics on the equipment used.
When I was about 14 I'd devised that this should be possible.. had a go at building something that worked... I was trying to adjust the speed with the frequentie of the AC using a homemade tone generator.. never actually got it to work.. but that was in 1991.. I didn't have access to specialized controllers.. Soo I got it to turn, but as soon as I put a load on it kinda "stalled". My solution to the engine keeps turning problem was using a Solex frame with the alternator on the original engine mount.. so basically a manual clutch driving the front tire directly. But it never had the power, in all other aspects it worked. It turned the driven wheel (without the wheel touching the ground) I could break the connection between motor and driven wheel I could control the speed with a potmeter.. But I love to see that someone actually build a working model of a bicycle with an alternator for a motor.. Now I can finally show a few of my old friends that I wasn't crazy for trying .. thanks for that.
How does this guy have millions of views but less than 200k subscribers? There's got to be at least a million smart people that find this interesting enough to subscribe
Very informative! Not everyday when you find a video that breaks down by the detail of all the revisions and road blocks. Definitely a ton of gems in this video!
Like going to college, work on your pet project, make it work, get credits and a referral from the Prof.
Amen preach it brother! Now I’m not your mommy but dang you brave testing stuff with no crash helmet!
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Hello friends. let us be grateful to our friend who posted this video sharing knowledge. It doesn't cost anything to like and make a simple comment. It is the least we can do in gratitude for his work. thank you!
Concordo plenamente. 😊
thank you
simple comment.
How long does the battery last
What I want to know is how many watt hours per mile.
Also, a better drive system. The drive system is absolutely terrible. Aside from being terrible, you cannot do regen with that clutch. Regen would be the saving grace of the awful drive system of attaching a chainring to the wheel spokes.
It's inefficient because he is constantly dumping 12v into the windings. It needs to have the windings only being powered when he is on the throttle.
Absolutely impressed with your skills and determination, I would definitely continue improving and expanding the product base to a standard baseline and market it locally.
Cheers and don’t give up.
Difficult to comprehend how anyone could "dislike" this great video, and puzzling that those who did would not take the time to explain why. Keep up the terrific work there!
lol You know people murder each other, right?
@@blackopal3138 your comment cracked me up bro lol
it’s probably mostly people who want him to wear a gosh darn helmet
@@realryleu They should mind their own business and worry about their own lives instead.
Nice work. Good job sticking with it despite the hall sensor confusion. We all really appreciate you taking the time to show us the basics on how to do this. Im going to try to slap an alternator on a Bird scooter and see what happens.
...the best thing about this video for me was your troubleshooting skills and determination and stubbornness in chasing down the logic of the engineering... awesome, well done.
Great work done!! It also gave me more insight into the hall effect sensors, which has given me problems before. Thanks so much and keep up the great work you're doing.
Success is 2% inspiration and 98% perspiration, plus the ability to keep trying. Our greatest inventors had many failures
As the sort of person who would definitely stack 5 parts together because I already have them and it does almost what I want, instead of buying 1 part that was professionally designed to do exactly what I want, just to see if I can make it work, I really appreciate the ingenuity on display here.
Bro the lengths you went to bring us this video is just awesome... I hope the people watching actually understand... 👊👍
Werd. This guy is super smart & determined.
This is right up my alley having being a marine electrician for the last 45 years, and an electric bicycle enthusiast!
You'll be way ahead of the pack in the years to come.
Next anti-gravity !
I really want to have that bike. If only I have money. I can build it at home.but here in the phillipines life is hard
Very hard. And all we can do is dream. You're invention is very educational. With all your equipment you can surely build an e bike. I have full respect for you sir. Keep up the good work and god bless you and your family. Keep posting more videos . we really enjoy watching your videos.
Converting the alternator was very impressive! But the most impressive part to me was that you are determined to find a solution and you did great job young man keep doing what you were doing with that same determination and you will go very far! GOD BLESS 🙏🙏🙏
You are a brilliant young man 👍. Our country needs many more like you.
Pop!! Flash! Bang. Brings back memories of setting up rc
Another thumb up for persistence and intelligent problem solving!
In depth knowledge, persistence in problem solving and happy riding! Excellent job
Thanks so much Hyuk! I appreciate it!
I agree, that kind of determination, accompanied with some intellect and ingenuity can take you far.
@@austiwawa I'll post this again here in case it may not have came to your attention. Just curious what you think about this: The centrifugal clutch idea could easily have worked properly, by either putting lighter springs in it, increasing the mass of the flyweights, or a combination of both, or else by getting a bigger clutch if that one was too small. I was also thinking you could have added a micro switch to the throttle, triggered by the initial first couple of mm of motion, connected to a relay supplying field power to the electromagnets. This would have eliminated the issue of the motor constantly spinning at a low speed.
Great final product though. Keep up the good work!
@@smallblockchevy1022 removing the clutch was better, because the sensorless controller couldn't spin the alternator as fast as the other controller and with hall sensors it was even better
and cutting the 12V field is a bad idea for the controller
I take joy in the expression of someone else's genius. I got a lot of joy out of this.
"WE ACT, AS GOOD FOLKS - FOR LOVE"
for you i would like to simply, say,
expressing in such very good ways
is always respectable
and it deserves..
it reminds me of my older works,
so, in the case of your say, today -
displayed in relays,
my quote, returns :
soliloquy from 2017, where 'katiger says'
"as our joys in this world
shall include your achievements.."
- warrior poet
in the days of past and since then, as said,
they have remained equally, true..
at that, would recognize your statement, here..
because you hold that spirit in your living years..
- human mentalities have many redemptions -
you have expressed an important one.!
more should take heed..
""if there was more love in the world -
we would probably see
a lot less dying..!!"
- clint eastwood
(the pale rider}
~WarriorPoet~
The dumb man cannot distunguish between a genius and a parrot. I see alot of parrot in this video no genius.
"Check out the big brain on Brad" 👍truly awesome!
Amazing! Your persistence thru the project makes you a hero. Learned a lot here. Thanks
70 km/h?? My scooter wobbling even at beyond 40 km/h! Great job! The Hall sensors made a world of difference!
That's great man! Lots of clear thinking, I dig it.
Sweet ride.
You've got a missus that understands our silliness as well, dude we're so lucky.
OLE'!
That 3 phase cable magnetic gallop at very low frequencies was really cool.. So was the entire build, Nice 👌
Great project, I’m impressed with your tenacity with the Hall effect sensors. They are not easy to understand at first and I thought you did a good job of describing their function. Really good job and video overall👏 Thanks.
Thank you!
@@austiwawa you definitely come through as genuine and guided by your own internal compass and inner light. Stay you. Stay true and i see success and happiness as two of your life’s major constants.
This young man will definitely be Essential in SHTF!
My sentiments exactly
Especially if a solar flare or a nuclear war creates EMP zones that destroy all complicated electrical components in almost all motor vehicles.
@@connordziadul6048 EMP zones moment
Props to you for all your persistance and never giving up!!!!
Hell yes.. when you skidded the tires on start I became a believer
Why would anyone thumbs down this video, it's super rad!
1.2 million views doesn't lie 👍
@@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 people who never learned to ride a bike
because he didn't take it off any sweet jumps
THE BIKE SHOULD BE PUT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN AND LEFT THAT WAY. IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT WITH A STUPID MOTOR ON IT WHEN IT WAS NOT MANUFACTURED THAT WAY.
@@stevenbundy4336 caps on, this guy is not messing around
Literally why I come on youtube to watch videos like this.
Determination and some skills will do ANYTHING!
I wonder what is feels like to be this smart.. awesome job dude
Your efforts were worth it in the end. Very much enjoyed the video.
I like the way you worked through your issues even though the manufacturer for the controller said it can't be done, good job.
I KNEW you could use alternators as motors!
Felt the same way, thinking like why hasn't anyone done it? Then I saw this guy
Thanx for letting us know you knew that?
Wtf
@@fatheryumyum4905 you've never been excited about being right?
Well done! Very informative. Would never attempt but love watching people like yourself doing the impossible!
I found that the best way to share my knowledge of electronics, was to play lead guitar in a rock & roll band, back in the 1980’s. We are so lucky that video was scarce. Now I study “the circle of fifths”. Cheers.
Dude what an awesome DIY project. You’re a smart guy and a I learned a lot about the innards of an alternator and what hall (sp?) sensors can be used for. Thanks for posting, definitely inspirational!
Great to see you work through this. Id not thought of using an alternator. This is proper 'shed-built' stuff!
That's what I like to see, being so creative in what you do. Excellent job!
Who are the 883 people that thumbs down this video? Losers. This is awesome. This is the kind of stuff we did when I was a kid..before the internet and cell phones.. lol. Along with all kinds of stuff that's illegal in densely populated areas.
Well done on diagnosing the needed solution!
Love your work ethic, and your persistence! Great job!
He sure has the curiosity, tenaciousness and knowledge to be an inventor / or great engineer. A definite free thinker. Kudos young man 👍
Really amazing work Austin! Thanks for the deep explanation on the science and physics behind the motor build.
Centrifugal clutches are noisy to begin with…. I think you made an awesome build.
Lots of ingenuity
I can appreciate all the work you didn't show. Great video!
HECK YEAH!!!
FINALLY!
I waited for so long, and finally you installed the hall sensors on the alternator!!!
My years waiting finally paid off!!
The youtuber "Enrengineering" also installed hall sensors on his alternator go-kart
That's correct! And it seems I skipped some steps...dang it! It seems that I will need to perfect the car alternator go kart. 😅
@@OverbuiltByHenry the only steps that i saw you stepping and remember from head were the top speed tests with modulation of tbe PWM brushed system, and the hall sensors on the middle of the stator (you put on the end of it)
@@foxxyytofficial maybe I will try to put the sensors on the middle of the stator if I can unglue them
Thanks @FoxxyYT happy to see you so active in the comments! Enrengineering did a great job on his go kart!
@@austiwawa i am so happy to have you answering me
Since the first alternator video i tried to help people in the comment, not just in your channel but in others too, like Enrengineering's channel
Your logical reasoning had you thinking it was something mechanical and it was…the positioning of the hall effect sensors. Nice prediction. The answer finally hit you after staring at it a long while, I imagine. Congratulations, you should be very proud; especially after that company sent such a discouraging letter
What an absolute badass this gentleman is.
Another Steve Jobs or Elon Musk in the making, WOW YOU DONE GOOD. Thanks for all your efforts and successes, God Bless and hang in there!
If you ride at speeds higher than the bike is intended, reminder to check the axle bearings and grease.
I made a minibike in the 60’s from a stingray bike and a 65ccClinton go cart racing motor. It would go 50 mph and after every run the bearing grease overheated and spun out of the bearing housing. It would not take long for the bearing balls to separate from the bearing. Caged ball bearings were the common type at that time.
Hard work and knowledge and diligence paid off.
Those centrifical clutches are exactly what we used in the 60s when we made Go Carts and Mini bikes by putting lawnmower engines on them.
i had one in the 90s lol. loved it
OK, soooooo, I didn't like the Clutch. I put together a vert small lawn mower engine chain driven very small Mini Bike which started by dragging the back tire, jumping on... throttle pretty much took the place of the brake and to kill it just pull the brake. Worked great and My neighbor's kids loved it! Why not just turn the controller on and off? 42mph very good!
Absolute genius, super impressed, just be a bit careful on that old bike, parts like the forks are under more stress than normal , wouldn't want them snapping on you. Let me know if you go into production, stick me on the waiting list.Somebody get this chap some funding from the stock market and get them in to production, recycling old alternators as well!
Great video, even complicated but still more easy to understand. Thanks for sharing 👍
You will make a great Engineer!! Keep it up! Never give up on a problem that is beating you down. There is always a way!!!
Works also without the hall sensors if you use the BLDC controller for an ebike and a PWM signal for the DC stator. PWM just needs to be controlled to give constant 250mA. I know this because I built an ekart for my 5 year old Son. Your old video made me realize an alternator was sufficient for such a project. What makes it better is that you can control the speed, direction and acceleration. The ekart can drive me an adult(76kg) at 40km/h , so for safety it is absolutely limited within the controller for my son's use. It also has horn, lights,cruise control, reverse and breaking, last one by short circuiting the leads with huge current relays (originally was using it to put back the power to a battery, but it was so small that I desisted on the effort). With a 24V, 22Ah battery he can drive up to 40km full throttle, now it is limited to 30km/h, 10A (maximum acceleration and power 240W), but on my first trials he went so fast I was not able to catch him on my bike. The alternators can keep up to 70A continuous, so is circa 600W machine if you have the power to supply it. He also got scared so he never uses it in the high power settings, best because we can go more than 4h trips on the bikes with a small child having fun.
His first video showed 1500W 48V controller without hall sensors
You are an astute young man... you will go places in this life.
42 mph. Nice! This is the type of DIY I love repurposed hardware with real results.
43.
Your conversions are taking away from the righteous to speed of 69 kph. WooooOOOOoooo!!! 😉
Awesome project! Thanks for showing the wiring schematics. That was helpful.
Congratulations to this young man. His diligence and dogged perseverance paid off handsomely... which was no more than he deserved.
Oh, and being very clever helped a lot, too...
Err... come to think of it, I don't suppose being good looking did any harm, either. 😄
What a brilliant video, Patience-Ingenuity-Perseverance, I could go on and on. This young man should go far. Thank You.
Yes he will.
Perfect example of what anyone can achieve if they attend school and get an education! 👍
Nice! Love It! I wish I can build One!
there are automotive alternator magnet kits for diy wind power generators .the last time I tested one for a customer was about 15 years ago so not sure if they are still available .that's the time when neodymium magnets were the hot thing to make projects, the ones I've seen came with a rotor cast from aluminum with magnets for 10 si gm alternators
Absolutely awesome project. Love you determination with the hurdles you encountered. Thank you for the upload!!!
When you said the motor kept slowly spinning with the controller, I immediately thought, just get a centrifugal clutch lol. And that's what he did. Makes perfect sense.
What a beautiful neighborhood for testing! Thanks for a fun video and letting us follow along as you figured out how to solve the problems.
FANTASTIC work, Austin! Nicely done!!! 😃
Happy new year! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Your troubleshooting skills, diligence and persistence is fantastic! Keep seeking new skills!
Good job Austin ! Don't worry about the looks. What's important is that it gets the job done and it beats any of those scooters with small wheels since you can't ride those outside the city really bacause every little rock or bump on the road is a death trap. I bet people would buy this and it would be a win-win situation. You get some cash & they get cheap transport. Keep up the good work & best of luck !
So far this is the only e-bike project that's worth it among all the projects and kits, it's nice to have that speed available for when needed and if you'll lower it to 20 miles it's gonna take you far away.
Honestly some genius engineering you did there! Damn good informative video!
43mph ain't bad. Well done.
genius with tenacity .. just a very cool dude
Nice one mate, I have got up to 45mph on my mountain bike going down a hill and that felt sketchy as hell. I can understand you not wanting to go faster lol. Will be great when the battery technology gets better and you can have more range without huge expensive batteries.
Amazing what you can achieve when you put your mind into it and not give up!
Well done young man, great
Video too, look forwards to see some more.
thank you for the full detailed video as great to see your idea in the plan
Hai fatto un super lavoro, complimenti!
Excellent work !!! Great knowledge and the ability to create and modify, passion that I have personally. I also built an e-bike from a kit using a three phase brushless motor. It is a 48V 20AH battery with a 800W motor. It is limited @ 50 Km/h but it is far enough on a bicycle frame !!! Keep-up the good work and innovation !!! It pays off specially on your career if you pursue Electronics/Controls/Computers !!! Have a great future !!!
Good stuff :) I have been mulling over how to create a somewhat unusual brushless motor implementation and you tweaked my brain with the hall effect sensors, so thank you for that :)
This was completely cool. Great info and explanations on the mech and tech of the project. Great share. Thank you.
Nice engineering there Sounds way better also no loud horrible noise
on the good side: you can weaken the magnetic field for more speed by varying the rotor current or make it stronger for more torque. free gearbox basically.
however on the bad side you wear the brushes and its less efficient since you have to waste energy to keep the magnetic field active.
you could also use it for regenerative braking by feeding back the energy in the rotor instead of applying 12v when hitting the brakes.
You're not going to wear the brushes by any noticeable level, considering alternators can potentially run hundreds of thousands of miles with no maintenance. It's a slip-ring not a commutator, so there's no slots to wear down the carbon
thing is if you use unfiltered PWM for the field winding, the sensors (and controller) will have to deal with the electrical noise
It would be interesting to drive the alternator with a VESC, and write a custom app for it to control the rotor field voltage. Since the VESC internally knows the ERPM, it could easily take that and apply it on top of a curve you define which determines the field voltage. Have the VESC output the setpoint to a DC-DC adjustable Buck regulator, and it be able to dynamically and automatically adjust for optimal torque and RPM.. I might have to play around with this.. heh. Another neat feature of something like this, is since the VESC directly can read the throttle input, it could also just disable the DC-DC regulator at 0 throttle. Thus eliminating the parasitic current draw at 0 RPM.
Need you around for an apocalypse
@@Hyratel, diesel trains have brushed motors driving the wheels that contact the rails.
These brushes have to be changed out regularly. I was informed of this by a (now deceased engineer). There are several sets of them. If you have a brushed motor, plan on having to change them out, there is no free ride.
Awesome!! Love this very creative and ingenious. Also great B-Roll
You're a genius any other person would have given in and brought a different motor.
Great job dude, and great video. Kudos for sticking with it in figuring out that commutation issue!!
Dude, I’m studying AET (Automation and electrical technologies) and this is right up my alley. You did a fantastic job explaining everything. It was a learning experience for me as well. My question is how did you convert DC into 3-phase AC?
Motor controller spits out a 3-phase pwm signal.
That's the speed controllers job.
Hey dude I want to try this experience because it is a wonderful thing. What do you advise me?
That"s crazy good motor work. Good job!
Excellent !
nice work-around for the basic challenge of car alternator conversion into a perfect BL motor - using hall sensors !
I’m digging this project. I now have something to possibly do with my son in the garage. Thanks.✌🏽