Thanks for the great video. They both fIy very well. I personally think the Viper is more robust and also powerful. It has a big flaw: the stall is always lurking, especially on landing the left wing tends to stall. I tried to land with half flaps and throttle stick first at 40% on approach and then at 30% until touchdown. It seems to work. I saw someone online using the "crow". Greetings from Italy.
Excellent job comparing these two sport jets. I’ve seen both fly and never thought the Eflite Viper would have that much left in the tank so to speak. I’m impressed with that alone. Nevertheless. You can’t go wrong with having either jet. Thanks for sharing this with us. Take care, Brad.
My buddy and I flew these at the same time. He flew his Avanti and I flew my Viper. The Avanti has quicker acceleration but top speed definitely goes to the Viper...even with mine having a 6200 pack and his having a 5000. Both are very capable and pretty equal in aerobatic maneuvers but as far as power definitely goes to the Viper 90 (like you found). I typically fly my Viper with 6000 packs and a 5 min timer and always land with at least 40% or more remaining. In the Viper you're typically at 1/2 throttle unless you want a speed run or going max vertical.
Very nice flying and comparison. Paying that amount BNF is not too bad. At the end for the avanti you still need to get a receiver for it. I myself bought the Avanti and still had to spend a nice penny for a receiver. In my case it was a $130 difference at the end to purchase it flying ready compared to the Viper. This is my 2nd Avanti. Will look into Viper in the future.
Thanks for the feedback randy! Totally agree. Cost after receiver gets close to BNF viper price. Once you have them both you will enjoy them in different ways so its worth it. I have a link in description if you decide to get one.Thanks...
Avanti is a great jet . But the Viper is a whole other animal . I love my vipers in 70mm and 90mm. Hands down the viper wins here . Sold my Avanti after 40 or so flights . NIce video Brother
Love the FPV Gates in the background! We need to visit your club next time in the US and Race drones and fly EDFs. Thanks for the awesome comparison Edit: Our main channel is the bmsweb UA-cam channel
Great review Jeff. I have both jets and have not flown my Avanti after flying the Viper. The new tech that comes with the viper, along with its flying characteristics, great surface hinging, vast fuselage space have won me over. Not to mention the performance advantage.
I like the viper 90mm but I prefer the avantic. Why? Because spare parts are expensive and had to find. The Avantic always motion rc have spare parts abaliable all way
I know this an Avanti/Viper comp, but in your experience how would you compare the Viper 90mm to the FMS FUTURA 80mm, as far as flight characteristics?
Viper more power,thrust and top end. Aggressive flying characteristics. Handles much bigger battery and weight easier. Crosswinds i feel is more challenging... Futura more docile, lighter flying and compact. Cheaper to operate (battery size). Heavier winds is more challenging. Wheelie machine too..
BD, the only problem I have with your comparison is that you didn't use the exact same battery in both planes. There's already a lot of variables just in how one flight was flown compared to any other flight. Now you've added completely different batteries into the mix. There's no way you make any meaningful comparison. I have been doing careful analysis of my batteries and so far have found that SMART batteries are pretty generally UNDER rated. They have more in the tank than shows on the label. I have software that uses telemetry data to calculate exactly how many mAh's have been pulled from the battery during the flight. And that is compared with the % left after the flight. I see a significant difference from one battery to another. So you should have used 2 identical batteries in both flights or, better yet, the same battery recharged and moved to the other plane. I fly a FW Avanti, btw, and I'm looking closely at the eFlite Viper 90 for a good scale jet. So I watched this video with interest. From what I've seen the Viper is 50% more expensive but a cut above in quality of construction. But Freewing has just upgraded the Avanti with a new more efficient motor and some improvements in quality and kept the price the same. Regardless, seems like the bottom line is that you pay more for the Viper but you get more. But both planes seem to be excellent flyers. I know the Avanti is.
Appreciate your feedback... I used the battery that most would probably use in them.Eflite more use Smart battery and other brands a variety of different ones. (Side note: based upon RCG testing Spektrum hold less, which is a test to efficiency for Viper)Yes i could have used the same battery and thought about doing so as well.However a 50-75 gram difference some pilots will notice and most/average flyers wont.Same could be said for using a different battery than me using one single one for both (Exmaple CNHL vs HRB ,Zee,Roaring Top etc).Another aspect is another pilot uses a battery 100 grams lighter or heavier so that plane will fly different too. I agree i noticed weight differences but when talking and showing the differences the different in weight wont show on camera but you can feel it.That being said both planes can handle the weights. Comparison was done close enough to the feedback and opinion i formed from flying both these jets numerous times.So at the end of the day were splitting hairs on a battery variable. Yes Viper is more but also when you figure a AR637T to get a comparable RX to Viper you compare total cost of 515 to 649.Price gap is even closer. I have the new Avanti v2 which i have done the maiden and some extra flights . So i have a more direct comparison to Avanti v2 and Viper 90. Still a performance gap.Viper is harder to get parts and typically more expensive.
@@BDTennessee Fair enough on the battery issue. BTW looks like a very nice field at KCRC and you really did a great, great job flying and landing. 10 out of 10. (I'm jealous.)
Avanti lands slower, smoother flight performance less stall characteristics, viper faster , as3x reverse thrust gear is weak nose breaks off on hard landings etc.
Thanks for the great video. They both fIy very well. I personally think the Viper is more robust and also powerful. It has a big flaw: the stall is always lurking, especially on landing the left wing tends to stall. I tried to land with half flaps and throttle stick first at 40% on approach and then at 30% until touchdown. It seems to work. I saw someone online using the "crow". Greetings from Italy.
Agree Viper is closer to stalling than Avanti in same scenario. Thanks for the comment from Italy!
Good job BD.. You know we're gonna want to see the Avanti V2 comparison too.. All the new fresh content for you to make.. 😀
Excellent job comparing these two sport jets. I’ve seen both fly and never thought the Eflite Viper would have that much left in the tank so
to speak. I’m impressed with that alone. Nevertheless. You can’t go wrong with having either jet. Thanks for sharing this with us. Take care, Brad.
Viper power system is impressive for sure. I agree cant go wrong either way. Appreciate it Brad
My buddy and I flew these at the same time. He flew his Avanti and I flew my Viper. The Avanti has quicker acceleration but top speed definitely goes to the Viper...even with mine having a 6200 pack and his having a 5000. Both are very capable and pretty equal in aerobatic maneuvers but as far as power definitely goes to the Viper 90 (like you found).
I typically fly my Viper with 6000 packs and a 5 min timer and always land with at least 40% or more remaining. In the Viper you're typically at 1/2 throttle unless you want a speed run or going max vertical.
Thanks for added feedback from experience.I agree with speed and aero comparison.
Viper летал непринужденно , за Avanti переживал от начала до конца. Казалось что не вытянет и разобьеться. А вообще круто!!!
Thanks for comment and watching!
Thank you for this video. I have both planes. I have yet to maiden the Viper. Nice comparison. Both great planes!!
Thanks for watching!
I like the way you fly, BD. Super smooth!
I appreciate that!
Very nice flying and comparison. Paying that amount BNF is not too bad. At the end for the avanti you still need to get a receiver for it. I myself bought the Avanti and still had to spend a nice penny for a receiver. In my case it was a $130 difference at the end to purchase it flying ready compared to the Viper. This is my 2nd Avanti. Will look into Viper in the future.
Thanks for the feedback randy! Totally agree. Cost after receiver gets close to BNF viper price. Once you have them both you will enjoy them in different ways so its worth it. I have a link in description if you decide to get one.Thanks...
hey there i’m in the Blount county model aviators club and i’ve been recommended these two jets as first jets. this is the exact video i needed!
Both good birds! Cant go wrong either way. BCMA good field and people.I been there few times..
@@BDTennessee I love it. we’re goin out tomorrow. Pete Kizer and Russ Davies have helped me a good bit
@@ImCxlt i know both of them. Good people. Pete is my buddy!
@@ImCxlt if you decide to go Viper 90 i have one im selling.
@@BDTennessee not sure about 90 but i’ll check it out. what site is it on?
Avanti is a great jet . But the Viper is a whole other animal . I love my vipers in 70mm and 90mm. Hands down the viper wins here . Sold my Avanti after 40 or so flights . NIce video Brother
First sentence is spot on! Viper better performance and Avanti is a value. Thanks for compliment Speed :)
Nice flying and narration. They both look like great planes. 👍🏻
Thanks RandyB! Yes both great planes too
I have both jets and both fly great not to mention the Albatros flys really good also.
The Eflite 90mm viper is by far the best 90mm EDF jet you can purchase. Thanks for your videos really starting to enjoy them.
Totally agree! Glad you enjoying videos and thanks for watching Bob :)
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Love the FPV Gates in the background! We need to visit your club next time in the US and Race drones and fly EDFs. Thanks for the awesome comparison
Edit: Our main channel is the bmsweb UA-cam channel
MY Fav 2 planes,,,Thanks BD well done as usual ,,great comparison!
2 awesome sport jets for sure! Thanks for compliment!
@@BDTennessee Your Welcome Bud,,,
Terry
Brandon, you fly these planes very well! Enjoy watching you with both of these planes. You should come fly at House Mountain sometime.
Thanks William! I been there few times for events but never flown.
Great comparison video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Michael!
Great review Jeff. I have both jets and have not flown my Avanti after flying the Viper. The new tech that comes with the viper, along with its flying characteristics, great surface hinging, vast fuselage space have won me over. Not to mention the performance advantage.
Well said!
I'm sold!
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Nice to see a video where someone can actually fly 👍🏻
Thanks for the compliment Paul!
Very informative video, with impartial advice from owning both jets (you lucky bugger )
Thanks david for the feedback! -Lucky B :D
I like the viper 90mm but I prefer the avantic. Why? Because spare parts are expensive and had to find. The Avantic always motion rc have spare parts abaliable all way
Facts! Sometimes we need parts,availability and pricing is something to consider for sure... I forgot to mention in video so thanks for commenting :)
both are great looking planes..
Thats a fact JCB!
Hello Brandon,what's the verdict?thanks for sharing this video.keep it and more power,cheers from dubai
Viper 90 better overall (tech and performance). Avanti good value and more forgiving.
I love my Avanti’s, and a year later the Viper is still not available!
I enjoy Avantis too :)
Viper changes from in and out of stock rapidly,thats for sure.
Can you do the aerobatics and show passes closer?
Copy!
Both great planes but hard to compare a 80mm to a 90mm.
Agree both great! Both have advantages and 2 most popular sport jets so wanted to compare...
Good vid bud
Thanks bro!
I know this an Avanti/Viper comp, but in your experience how would you compare the Viper 90mm to the FMS FUTURA 80mm, as far as flight characteristics?
Viper more power,thrust and top end. Aggressive flying characteristics. Handles much bigger battery and weight easier. Crosswinds i feel is more challenging...
Futura more docile, lighter flying and compact. Cheaper to operate (battery size). Heavier winds is more challenging. Wheelie machine too..
Very good information. Last question, have you ever experimented flying your Viper 90mm without the winglet tips? @@BDTennessee
@@davidgerlach1132 i havent removed winglets. Wingtip light cover is built into them and have advantages.
Last question, I just acquired the Avanti S. On this Avanti, did you need to mix any "down elevator" in your flap settings?@@BDTennessee
@@davidgerlach1132 same setup as v2. I have all the details in the description of Avanti v2 Flight Review...
BD, the only problem I have with your comparison is that you didn't use the exact same battery in both planes. There's already a lot of variables just in how one flight was flown compared to any other flight. Now you've added completely different batteries into the mix. There's no way you make any meaningful comparison. I have been doing careful analysis of my batteries and so far have found that SMART batteries are pretty generally UNDER rated. They have more in the tank than shows on the label. I have software that uses telemetry data to calculate exactly how many mAh's have been pulled from the battery during the flight. And that is compared with the % left after the flight. I see a significant difference from one battery to another. So you should have used 2 identical batteries in both flights or, better yet, the same battery recharged and moved to the other plane.
I fly a FW Avanti, btw, and I'm looking closely at the eFlite Viper 90 for a good scale jet. So I watched this video with interest. From what I've seen the Viper is 50% more expensive but a cut above in quality of construction. But Freewing has just upgraded the Avanti with a new more efficient motor and some improvements in quality and kept the price the same. Regardless, seems like the bottom line is that you pay more for the Viper but you get more. But both planes seem to be excellent flyers. I know the Avanti is.
Appreciate your feedback...
I used the battery that most would probably use in them.Eflite more use Smart battery and other brands a variety of different ones. (Side note: based upon RCG testing Spektrum hold less, which is a test to efficiency for Viper)Yes i could have used the same battery and thought about doing so as well.However a 50-75 gram difference some pilots will notice and most/average flyers wont.Same could be said for using a different battery than me using one single one for both (Exmaple CNHL vs HRB ,Zee,Roaring Top etc).Another aspect is another pilot uses a battery 100 grams lighter or heavier so that plane will fly different too. I agree i noticed weight differences but when talking and showing the differences the different in weight wont show on camera but you can feel it.That being said both planes can handle the weights. Comparison was done close enough to the feedback and opinion i formed from flying both these jets numerous times.So at the end of the day were splitting hairs on a battery variable.
Yes Viper is more but also when you figure a AR637T to get a comparable RX to Viper you compare total cost of 515 to 649.Price gap is even closer. I have the new Avanti v2 which i have done the maiden and some extra flights . So i have a more direct comparison to Avanti v2 and Viper 90. Still a performance gap.Viper is harder to get parts and typically more expensive.
@@BDTennessee Fair enough on the battery issue. BTW looks like a very nice field at KCRC and you really did a great, great job flying and landing. 10 out of 10. (I'm jealous.)
@@douglindauer7327 i enjoy flying there and scenery/ Thanks for the compliments :)
Could not see the planes very well size comparason
Sorry.Got new equipment coming this year :)
Avanti lands slower, smoother flight performance less stall characteristics, viper faster , as3x reverse thrust gear is weak nose breaks off on hard landings etc.
Good points and spot on. Not sure about BViper nose gear being weak but hard landings will do it haha