Steve Coll on How the U.S. Pursued Withdrawal Over Peace in Afghanistan & Let the Taliban Take Over
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2021
- As Afghanistan spirals into a humanitarian crisis after the abrupt U.S. withdrawal earlier this summer, we look at years of failed U.S. diplomacy that allowed the Taliban to seize power and leave the small nation in a state of disrepair. A New Yorker magazine investigation shows how the U.S. repeatedly undermined the Kabul-based government in a rush to leave the country. “I’ve been reporting in general and around Afghanistan for a long time. I was still shocked by the degree of cynicism that the United States often brought to this endeavor to seek peace, particularly during the Trump years,” says New Yorker staff writer Steve Coll, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who has covered Afghanistan for decades
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This is precisely the sort of investigative journalism that will be threatened if Julian Assange is extradited to the US.
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@@JohnMoran Not true. I’d say their support for Assange went from 100% down to 80% which is bad in itself, but Assange’s torture isn’t among the subjects where DN! is a shadow of it’s former self.
There’s Syria -many issues-, Venezuela, Nicaragua, China, Russia, Ukraine, Covid, the darn Dems, even Palestine, Turkey... now Ethiopia...
Since Nermeen Shaikh became so prominent Democracy Now has been going downhill, I think she in part explains such decline, but not sure to what degree.
The Soviets never invaded Afganistan, they asked to come to helped by the socialest Afgan gov. Against the tribal terrotists who wete being armed snd financed by the U.S. gov. The evil U.S. gov would set down the grounds for all out war against Middle East countries for domination and control and its natural resourced. The Taliban was a late comer fully armed and financed by the Umcle Sam. The U S did invade Afganistan amd Iraq.
@@simonrodriguez4685 How has Nermeen Shaikh so negatively influenced DN? She's doing a fine job.
@@geraldjensen9399 Your opinion. I laid out all the issues. She’s more of a shitlib than anyone at DN! before her. Therefore the DN!’s displacement to the right -which has been a catastrophe- points in her detection. Some people closer to the team think so, I personally don’t have enough concrete evidence, but if so I would consider her nefarious.
And yet Assange is persecuted by the exposed war criminals.
Yawn. Next?
@@vallee7966 devastating reply. way to delve to the heart of the matter.
This is all past now. The present reality is mass starvation in Afghanistan. We as Indians should go all out to send food and medicines to Afghanistans to save our Afghan brothers and sisters from starvation. The world can find other ways to control and handle Taliban but not at the cost of millions of Afghani lives.
I mean no disrespect to the Afghanistan people but you can see the same pictures and tents here in the United States with the homeless people here...the US needs to sweep around its own doors...💯
Your point is so profound.
Unfortunately Congress gives the people’s money to Corporations instead of fixing our own inhumanities 🕊
Lets just pretend we could occupy Afghanistan forever and none of the experts saw this coming decades ago.
Exactly. I swear some people are just delusional.
Temporary 20 years is fine with the war profiteers, who care nothing about human life or climate change. Only money counts, and the world's suffering because of it.
Sad, but 20 years were spent in Afghanistan and nothing got accomplished. I don't see any reason to think the results would be better if we had stayed longer. Likely the opposite.
Over 40 years. You're forgetting our back door mutual aid and creation of the taliban
@@colbyolsen6519 Bravo! I appreciate those who really know history and the root cause of the problems.
A thoughtful analysis.
What about Yemen 🇾🇪 they're are the forgotten country...
True. I can't keep up with all the us occupations (wars.) It's something like 12 to 14 countries we're destroying with little or no coverage.
All American involved wars of the 21st century wars have ended with the people of that region with more impoverishment :(
Largest money laundering and wrongful death incident to date.
But there's no lawsuits from those who've learned the truth.
As an Afghanistan veteran It's appalling that no one's stepping up for the truth.
We started a war against ourselves in Afghanistan and sent our own to war wrongfully.
The ptsd deaths should be fully charged as manslaughter class action lawsuits.
Thank you. Many don't think of it that way.
The fact that most people fail to consider,
seems to be the presence of Taliban Officials
operating Local Municipal Governments
in many areas of the region, while the US
was present in Kabul.....
The actual reasons for occupation seemed to be
more to threaten Iran,
than to help Afghanistan.....
Very interesting take on it. Makes great sense.
@@orishejuukuedojor2736 Considering the fact that the US continues to consider Persian Oil to be the big threat to economic security currently.....
The planning for the invasion of Iraq took many months and a lot of negotiations with Gulf Nations.....
The excuse of an occupation locating an air base or two on the eastern flank of Iran seems to be the easiest excuse for their parking a few thousand troops in Afghanistan.
They certainly never inserted enough troops to overcome the Tailban municipal structures.....
It would be interesting To parliament with the Arab Emirates to no longer arm terrorists as well as rich countries thank you democracy now Amy Juan en all the staff 🌼🌺🌹🕊️
btw 1200 Afghans (Women, Men and children) came to Spain. All been granted assylum. While thousands of bangladeshis, pakistanis, syrians, iranians are still waiting in que...
The US must be stopped.
Peace
I did not know most of that before. So this was all news to me hearing this story.
Read the comments.
That is the definition of a great journalistic research from Steve Coll.
Is the same guy who says Karzi has no authority to welcome talks with the Taliban. Laugh
Number 1 rule criminals/terrorists do not negotiate when they can take advantage
The Trump State Department got played, and it seems there are only losers in the war of wars.
The Afghan government wanted the civil war to continue so that the US would stay so it could loot the treasury. There was no easy way to leave. The Taliban did not target Americans if the US stopped giving air support to the Afghan army. Once air support was withdrawn it was only a matter of time before the Taliban arrived in Kabul.
Exactly. The existence of the Taliban has been a US policy imperative for at least 43 years.
Peace
What were we supposed to do stay there? You cant beat the taliban on their own ground.
So what was Bush II thinking when we invaded Afghanistan under his watch?
He didn’t want to attack the Saudi regime but needed a weaker scapegoat?
American can bully anybody. Obviously, he now knows how stupid that thinking was.
Dunno. He was an arrogant S.O.B.
How old are you lady, I have seen first time as news anchor at your age
Amy was anchoring DN! back in 2001. Her hair was gray then.
This guy probably thinks that South Viet Nam should be a US colony.
Imagine what religion could possibly lead to such depravity.
ALL THE YEARS WE WERE THEIR . 10 MORE YEARS WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING
Wrong. Ten more years made the war profiteers even more rich and powerful than before. I know you're talking about Afghan society; it's heartbreaking, but it's plain to see the people are not in control. The people have lost their minds war after war, conflict after conflict, rising wealth inequality and so much more. It's miracle more of us haven't committed suicide.
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Not a surprise from a failed state.
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The righteous warriors of Allah have regained power.
The Taliban Isis,Al-Qaida and IDF are all on the Same side =USA
Not really no.
@@citizen.cane1 Do you suffer from a mentaI disorder to put IDF and ISIL on the same page? I hope you take your medication.
Allah is a god invented by Arabs before Mohammad was born.
@@TehNetherlands i have a mental disorder and choose not to medicate cause pharma killed my parents. Is it possible that people are understandably anti-us?
To trust the Sata is to blind walk to disaster!!!
He criticizes the American administration for not "prioritizing" peace negotiations between the Kabul govt and the Taliban. But the Taliban made clear that they had no interest in that. When you're going to finally leave a place you've invaded and occupied, you have little leverage. But at some point we had to leave. We'd been there 20 years. Even if it made sense to invade the country in the first place to go after Bin Laden, there was no coherent reason for staying after that rationale was no longer relevant. But, fear not warmongers, I'm sure they'll find a another place to occupy soon enough
And whary are we supposed to believe, that the swift and total collapse of the Afghan government was as a result of shutting them out of these negotiations? That looks like nonsense. What we saw on the ground of a Taliban takeover just proves that we we right not to bother bringing them to the table. As it appears they didn't even exist.
In hindsight...why even utter the bin ladin bs? Good chance that guys still alive. Lol
I recall hearing the Afghan government was barely paying and feeding their army. They weren't buying them boots! Their soldiers were literally going hungry. The government was pocketing the money. So... A lot of the soldiers just quit before the Taliban showed up. They were not getting paid to be shot at. They went to get a job that PAID them so they could feed their kids.
Antimilitarism!!! Vote Green or Anarchist Parties!!!!
Lol
the afghanistan war couldve end if if you sorted out pakistans ISI
Hoo cares!
Biased & extremely slanted journalism. You could say the British, & the Soviets also “failed miserably” with “arrogance, hubris & miscalculation”, as they also tried to bring Afghanistan into the modern age?
I don't understand what these men think they are accomplishing with this. Their lives still suck, but they get to carry guns and treat women like dirt?
Is Amy pro war?
@MFA I highly doubt that.
She is more pro democratic agenda than anything these days. Granted I don't think she decides which stories they cover. Odd they covering this and not the people still trapped there... This dude just trying to sell his book probably paid them for this segment.
No
Lewis is on point.
As long as it's furthering democrats she doesn't care what they do.
She refuses to speak on the truth of where this war started.
The democrats failed cia operations to stop the Russians.
If they ever did full Nuremberg trials on this 90% of our government from both wings would be incarcerated.
I'd back that over the current scenario.
Amy has become a shill for one wing. It's sad to see her fall when at one point I believed in her true journalistic nature.
@@colbyolsen6519 she just reads the script man give her a break. She does not own this channel. good points though.
No thanks, withdrawal however messy should have happened and that was the right decision. Perpetual war keeps pro war cheerleaders like Coll gainfully employed.
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the most stupid comment I have read so far.
Trump is a great negotoiator
Learn to spell fool!!!
More like a sore loser .
Who is this guy? So much BS.
THUMBS DOWN. If you looked into life before our invasion in Afghanistan it’s back to normal. They are not our responsibility. Their future is their own, or it should be. End of discussion.
"it’s back to normal": No, it's wose than it was before the country was invaded by anyone.
"They are not our responsibility": You guys shouldn't have gone there in the first place. Now that you involved yourself, you are partially responsible for what happens.
Any country producing, selling, or using bombs or weapons on other countries is responsible.
You war mongering maggots should of never been there have a civil war kill each other and leave the world alone
Then give them back their money .Or do you consider that USA keeps it as reparations for leaving their equipment behind.Peace
@@philj5518 Yeah, but it requires our military junta to sit opposite other military juntas
Blindsided by hatred for Trump got us here. We should have just continued what that administration started. Sad and didn't have to go this bad.
No.
@@orionsshoe2424 nah what? We should have let it go this way? It's all good, right?
@@LDiamondz no what?
Im no fan of the taliban.... But there's more peace and quiet in Afghanistan today, than it was when the yanks were there.
Americas hubris and arrogant belief that their way is the right way, and all else is wrong, so it... The American way... Must be imposed across nations, is absurd and vile.
America stay at home
Lol
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