Series 5! I've read Awdry's biography by Brian Sibley which is worth the read and according to that book, Awdry meant for the engines to get the blame all the time so it would protect the reputation of the people who worked on the railway while he was writing the books and those who worked on the railway were happy about that so they didn't have to tell their kids that they screwed up or be embarrassed or whatever. IMO, there should be double blame. The message didn't get through in time to get Henry away from the coastal track, yes, but Henry was also rude to Thomas and shouldn't have brushed off his warning. Engines, trucks, vehicles, and people all did something that led to each of the accidents. Not that they all had a role in every single crash literally but they all did something for a crash whether it would be intentional or not. There are circumstances beyond everyone's control indeed. Again, Awdry was trying to protect the reputation of those who worked on the railway. Do whatever you can do with the next lists. Don't exert yourself.
@@benjaminholmertz4827 Basically the engines were used as scapegoats to prevent the railway workers from looking incompetent Although in Thomas and the Rumours The Fat Controller punishes Gordon's driver for the accident not Gordon himself
@@RWSfan2024 But that lies the question: can the engines really move by themselves? That always confused me from the start. On one hand, the engines are helpless without their drivers such as Thomas comes to Breakfast while in later seasons, it seems they can just stop and go whenever it's convenient. It's a pretty weird continuity thing.
45:45 I heard this was actually Toby's motor chassis, or maybe it could have been Mavis' given I heard somewhere during the deleted scene from A Surprise for Percy where it was Mavis pushing the runaway trucks for the scene where the STH and Bertie pass the trucks that they'd use Mavis to push stuff around cause her motor chassis was apparently the most reliable so she did the Marklin engines' job during season 5; moving rolling stock to make scenes look busier
I feel like Season 5 was where Percy peaked! He was buried by a landslide, he then saves Toby from practically dying. The town shouldn't have celebrated for Toby, but Percy really.
Season 5 is my all-time favorite season. No other season before or after could top it. The model work, stunt work, narrating, music, tone, episodes, are perfect.
Hehe, I think in the smelters, the duality of the lighting between the yellow light area and the red light area could be this class of Life and Death almost. Or Death and Rebirth. The red light area is where the grabber is located, this is where Stepney is left for dead, where once he's picked up and squashed by the grabber, his remains will be tossed into the melting pot where he'll cease to be, become one with the molten metal which is burning and bubbling. The yellow light area, though, looks like its where the big ladles are dumped. There is even a ladle on a little overhead track above the rails, and I've seen lots of footage of steel being poured out of the smelting furnaces. When steel gets poured, it's bright yellow and bright like the sun. It starts our orange/red as the smelting process melts the metal down, the pure steel settling to the bottom and all the impurities floating to the top or being burned off. And here is where the kind of death and rebirth duality comes in. Like, if Stepney is scrapped, his life will be over, but his body will go on to be part of something completely new. But in order to make that transition from steam engine to a raw material with immense potential, he has to be committed to a death sentence where his life will be ended in the cruelest ways possible; suddenly and painfully.
The moment where the Fat Controller inspects the old house in Oliver’s Find fascinates me to this day. Especially the lack of dialogue and the distinct music cues.
51:43 This actually drive me to check the Thomas wiki to see if he had a basis and he didn’t. I’ve come up with an on the spot headcanon that Thumper is completely custom built
44:17 I remember seeing that VHS since my friend's brother had it and I asked if I could borrow it and I did and that was nice. Hard to believe that was nearly 20 years ago tho.
It does seem very clear James Percy and Toby were favorites of Allcroft and while Duck at some level was too it seems they weren't clear what to do with him here so they just made him a secondary one but I don't think they were very big on Edward which is why he wasn't that big here (who knows how much more could've done with Daisy in the Classic era had it not been for the sexism controversy plus how she had to share BoCo's chassis anyways). With the narrow gauge engines, it's too bad they couldn't get to making large scale models of Sir Handel and Duke (who never got one) at this point as it seems like there could've been plenty more story potential with both of them though as I know money gets in the way. With why they chose which narrow gauge engines to become large scale first, I'd say they chose Rusty due to being prioritized by Allcroft the most, Duncan because who doesn't love him, Skarloey because he's the #1 and main face of all the narrow gauge engines with Rheneas due to being tied in with him, and Peter Sam likely because of how big he was in Season 4 plus how endearing he is in general but surely there'd be random coach and truck model pieces they could've had Sir Handel and Duke built in place of. With Bertram maybe they had more plans for him but as I said building another large scale model for him would cost money.
Awesome tier list! Here is my ranking 1) Duncan Gets Spooked 2) Busy Going Backwards 3) Toby and the Flood 4) Put Upon Percy 5) A Better View For Gordon 6) Cranky Bugs 7) Stepney Gets Lost 8) A Surprise for Percy 9) Rusty and the Boulder 10) Lady Hatts Birthday Party 11) Something In The Air 12) Snow 13) Horrid Lorry 14) Bye George 15) Double Teething Troubles 16) Olivers Find 17) James and the Trouble With Trees 18) Haunted Henry 19) Sir Topham Hatts Holiday 20) Baa! 21) Thomas, Percy and Old Slow Coach 22) Thomas and the Rumours 23) Make Someone Happy 24) Happy Ever After 25) Gordon and the Gremlin 26) Tobys Discovery
My answer to your question bout the lead in Horrid Lorries is in my personal opinion i think its safe to say Percy and Toby are co leads. First half is percy second half is Toby then they both come together at the end.
the reason S5 is so good is because it's the only season that aired after Awdry's passing and before Tragic Failroad, after that everything went downhill
Season 5 was certainly great with its perfectly balanced mix of intensity/action/suspense and humor. I also like Alec Baldwin’s characterizations, especially lady Hatt. It also shows Thomas to be the most mature, humble and caring and at his peak as a character.
I like how they weren't afraid to use darker themes while also keeping the show's character in check. Had this been made while HIT was around, it would've been the start of a decline
I think this is the first season so far with no outright bad episodes (episodes below the mid tier). Season 4 had Special Attraction as a bad episode IMO, Season 3 had Percy, James, and the Fruitful Day and No Joke for James, Season 2 had Better Late Than Never and The Runaway, Season 1 had Thomas' Train and Thomas Goes Fishing, with Thomas' Christmas Party only being bad for being a Part 2 to a Part 1 that wasn't adapted from the book series. But even though Gordon and the Gremlin is the worst of Season 5, it's still better than some of the later series' best/better episodes. As Unlucky Tug put it, it was an episode where "things just happen", and the same could be said for the other lower tier episodes in this season.
May I please see you rank episodes from Series 17 to Series 21? I asked because I watched a bit of Series 17 to Series 21 and they seem a lot better than Series 6 to Series 16. Series 5 was so popular on Nick. Jr in the UK as well! If only I could've been able to watch Thomas from 1998 to 2001 which were years before I came to life
My Tier Ranking A-: A Better View for Gordon, Busy Going Backwards, and Rusty & The Boulder B+: Cranky Bugs, Horrid Lorries, Bye George, Put Upon Percy, Toby & the Flood, Haunted Henry, Stepney Gets Lost, Something in the Air, & Snow B: Lady Hatt's Birthday Party, James & the Trouble with Trees, Double Teething Problems, Toby's Discovery, Thomas Percy & Old Slow Coach, Oliver's Find, A Big Surprise for Percy & Duncan Gets Spooked. B-: Happy Ever After, Sir Topham Hatt's Holiday, & Make Someone Happy. C+: Baa C: Thomas & the Rumors C-: Gordon & The Gremlin
Can you please make sure to mention Angelis narration for Jack jumps in and A Friend in Need and Brandon's renarrating 6 episodes and that Edward isn't really being rude to Harvey or even Rocky later on?
In terms of constantly mentioning the US dub, why not use terms, freight cars, conductors, vacation, trucks, English muffins, switches, Sir Topham Hatt etc?
You mind please mentioning that there are worse "engines getting the blame" episode than Middle Engine like Emily's New Route and especially Slippy Sodor in the next Season?
The only problem I have with Lady Hatt's Birthday Party is that...... ITS A 3- STRIKE FORMULA EPISODE. TOPAHM GETS INTO TROUBLE THREE TIMES AND THE LAST ONE WHEN HE FALLS INTO THE MUD PIT IS THE BIG BAD ONE. BUT, I'll give this episode a pass just for the humor. 😅
I have to disagree. Topham Hatt doesn't intentionally make three mistakes, they were just unfortunate circumstances. The difference being in the CGI era, the characters make really stupid decisions that drag on throughout the episode, while in Lady Hatt's Birthday Party, it's actually funny and hilarious.
@@LightingHedgehogYT Again, the three strikes formula usually revolves around a character ignoring simple logic or declining help to follow their own pride. Here, Sir Topham Hatt gets into two mishaps that wasn't directly his fault. But regardless, the episode is still pretty wholesome
Bohwld out not bowel'd out XD sorry that just sounded weird also please stop taking God's name in vain... it is disrespectful to those who do believe in God and God Himself. I am not mad just letting you know that not every video has to have that.
Series 5! I've read Awdry's biography by Brian Sibley which is worth the read and according to that book, Awdry meant for the engines to get the blame all the time so it would protect the reputation of the people who worked on the railway while he was writing the books and those who worked on the railway were happy about that so they didn't have to tell their kids that they screwed up or be embarrassed or whatever. IMO, there should be double blame. The message didn't get through in time to get Henry away from the coastal track, yes, but Henry was also rude to Thomas and shouldn't have brushed off his warning. Engines, trucks, vehicles, and people all did something that led to each of the accidents. Not that they all had a role in every single crash literally but they all did something for a crash whether it would be intentional or not. There are circumstances beyond everyone's control indeed. Again, Awdry was trying to protect the reputation of those who worked on the railway. Do whatever you can do with the next lists. Don't exert yourself.
LOL well then, it must suck to be an engine when you're technically under the control of someone else
@@benjaminholmertz4827 Basically the engines were used as scapegoats to prevent the railway workers from looking incompetent Although in Thomas and the Rumours The Fat Controller punishes Gordon's driver for the accident not Gordon himself
@@armorpro573I mean, it kinda already does, regardless if you get blamed for your crew’s incompetence or not.
@@RWSfan2024 But that lies the question: can the engines really move by themselves? That always confused me from the start. On one hand, the engines are helpless without their drivers such as Thomas comes to Breakfast while in later seasons, it seems they can just stop and go whenever it's convenient.
It's a pretty weird continuity thing.
45:45 I heard this was actually Toby's motor chassis, or maybe it could have been Mavis' given I heard somewhere during the deleted scene from A Surprise for Percy where it was Mavis pushing the runaway trucks for the scene where the STH and Bertie pass the trucks that they'd use Mavis to push stuff around cause her motor chassis was apparently the most reliable so she did the Marklin engines' job during season 5; moving rolling stock to make scenes look busier
3:08 I used to think Cranky's scream and line delivery of "I CAAAAAAAAN'T" by Alec Baldwin sounded like Plankton yelling and screaming
I know right? 😂
“HELP!” Called the engines from inside the shed!
@@chillif9244"I CAN'T" called Cranky
I feel like Season 5 was where Percy peaked! He was buried by a landslide, he then saves Toby from practically dying. The town shouldn't have celebrated for Toby, but Percy really.
Yeah. The later seasons completely ruined his character to a delusional, annoying kid, but at least season 5 showed development
And then his IQ dropped by like what, 50 points?
@@armorpro573Well he still had some of the old Percy in him, like in Percy’s Chocolate Crunch he’s pretty much angry throughout the whole episode.
@@ryanfuller912 But other than that, it's still a shame
@@likecascade7015More like 100
A Better View For Gordon Is What Started The Station Crash Jokes For YTPS
Season 5 is my all-time favorite season. No other season before or after could top it. The model work, stunt work, narrating, music, tone, episodes, are perfect.
Hehe, I think in the smelters, the duality of the lighting between the yellow light area and the red light area could be this class of Life and Death almost. Or Death and Rebirth.
The red light area is where the grabber is located, this is where Stepney is left for dead, where once he's picked up and squashed by the grabber, his remains will be tossed into the melting pot where he'll cease to be, become one with the molten metal which is burning and bubbling.
The yellow light area, though, looks like its where the big ladles are dumped. There is even a ladle on a little overhead track above the rails, and I've seen lots of footage of steel being poured out of the smelting furnaces. When steel gets poured, it's bright yellow and bright like the sun. It starts our orange/red as the smelting process melts the metal down, the pure steel settling to the bottom and all the impurities floating to the top or being burned off.
And here is where the kind of death and rebirth duality comes in. Like, if Stepney is scrapped, his life will be over, but his body will go on to be part of something completely new. But in order to make that transition from steam engine to a raw material with immense potential, he has to be committed to a death sentence where his life will be ended in the cruelest ways possible; suddenly and painfully.
The moment where the Fat Controller inspects the old house in Oliver’s Find fascinates me to this day. Especially the lack of dialogue and the distinct music cues.
Speaking of cues, the UK dub missed a lot of cues and sound effects probably because of the stereo audio.
@@greenninjalloyd4376 Reminds me of how the early UK dub and to a lesser extent the US dub of season 4 missed a lot of cues.
@@bentheg9793 Season 8 well in the UK dub missed ending cues in individual versions of the episodes.
3:47 Well, if you watched The Good Old Days, that's the story they went with for this section of track
25:47 Haunted Scooby-Doo, coming soon from T1E2H3 lol
51:43 This actually drive me to check the Thomas wiki to see if he had a basis and he didn’t. I’ve come up with an on the spot headcanon that Thumper is completely custom built
seven minutes in and I feel like T1E2H3 is gonna put every episode in S tier. (as he should)
also those Alec Baldwin voices you do are hilarious XD
Scooby Doo impression highlight of the video 😂
23:02 You had me shocked when you put Haunted Henry at the bottom tier
6:00 He re-uses those voices for Gordon in Season 6 along with Max/Monty.
If Alec Baldwin’s voices in Season 5 don’t make one laugh, then that person has a seriously underdeveloped sense of humor.
5:42
am i the only one who saw the lorry driver as wearing a funky hat as a kid?
44:17 I remember seeing that VHS since my friend's brother had it and I asked if I could borrow it and I did and that was nice. Hard to believe that was nearly 20 years ago tho.
It does seem very clear James Percy and Toby were favorites of Allcroft and while Duck at some level was too it seems they weren't clear what to do with him here so they just made him a secondary one but I don't think they were very big on Edward which is why he wasn't that big here (who knows how much more could've done with Daisy in the Classic era had it not been for the sexism controversy plus how she had to share BoCo's chassis anyways).
With the narrow gauge engines, it's too bad they couldn't get to making large scale models of Sir Handel and Duke (who never got one) at this point as it seems like there could've been plenty more story potential with both of them though as I know money gets in the way. With why they chose which narrow gauge engines to become large scale first, I'd say they chose Rusty due to being prioritized by Allcroft the most, Duncan because who doesn't love him, Skarloey because he's the #1 and main face of all the narrow gauge engines with Rheneas due to being tied in with him, and Peter Sam likely because of how big he was in Season 4 plus how endearing he is in general but surely there'd be random coach and truck model pieces they could've had Sir Handel and Duke built in place of. With Bertram maybe they had more plans for him but as I said building another large scale model for him would cost money.
Awesome tier list! Here is my ranking
1) Duncan Gets Spooked
2) Busy Going Backwards
3) Toby and the Flood
4) Put Upon Percy
5) A Better View For Gordon
6) Cranky Bugs
7) Stepney Gets Lost
8) A Surprise for Percy
9) Rusty and the Boulder
10) Lady Hatts Birthday Party
11) Something In The Air
12) Snow
13) Horrid Lorry
14) Bye George
15) Double Teething Troubles
16) Olivers Find
17) James and the Trouble With Trees
18) Haunted Henry
19) Sir Topham Hatts Holiday
20) Baa!
21) Thomas, Percy and Old Slow Coach
22) Thomas and the Rumours
23) Make Someone Happy
24) Happy Ever After
25) Gordon and the Gremlin
26) Tobys Discovery
23:07 I’ve been waiting for this day for a decade.
“Rotroads! It’s a roast! Redward was right!”
Season 5 is truly the best season for many reasons
I do like it thought i think in my opinión i think s3 is the best
@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 S3 and 5 are both ranked as my favorite
@@armorpro573 i like s3 more
@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 No need to remind me
Season 5 is my favourite season too
31:00 the engine in the upper left looks like Choo Choo Charles, but with an open cab.
Brace for the freight train, chugging till you die. Or it dies, in this case.
Busy Going Backwards is my all time favourite episode from the entire show!
Mine is Rusty and the Boulder
@@armorpro573Mine too
My answer to your question bout the lead in Horrid Lorries is in my personal opinion i think its safe to say Percy and Toby are co leads. First half is percy second half is Toby then they both come together at the end.
Interesting ranking season 5. Lots of S for this and I see why people love series 5
It's definitely worth a watch
I love Season 5 too
When I was younger I made a joke that Percy and the bridge are married *dies of laughter* I was so wierd back then
TTTE Season 5 (1998) & Season (2002) USA Alec Baldwin
the reason S5 is so good is because it's the only season that aired after Awdry's passing and before Tragic Failroad, after that everything went downhill
Well this season had showcase about the downfall of the tatmr
Imagine using Boulder as a bowling ball😂
This man made James sound more gay than Alec Baldwin did.
LOL I never got that impression given how pompous James is
Season 5 was certainly great with its perfectly balanced mix of intensity/action/suspense and humor. I also like Alec Baldwin’s characterizations, especially lady Hatt. It also shows Thomas to be the most mature, humble and caring and at his peak as a character.
I like how they weren't afraid to use darker themes while also keeping the show's character in check. Had this been made while HIT was around, it would've been the start of a decline
@@armorpro573Like Season 8 was
I knew you were gonna make that joke for something in the air!
I think this is the first season so far with no outright bad episodes (episodes below the mid tier). Season 4 had Special Attraction as a bad episode IMO, Season 3 had Percy, James, and the Fruitful Day and No Joke for James, Season 2 had Better Late Than Never and The Runaway, Season 1 had Thomas' Train and Thomas Goes Fishing, with Thomas' Christmas Party only being bad for being a Part 2 to a Part 1 that wasn't adapted from the book series.
But even though Gordon and the Gremlin is the worst of Season 5, it's still better than some of the later series' best/better episodes. As Unlucky Tug put it, it was an episode where "things just happen", and the same could be said for the other lower tier episodes in this season.
Yeah I used to like Gordon and the Gremlin, but now as an adult, it does seem dull. Similar to Thomas and the Rumors, but it's not so bad I guess
34:13, nah I highly doubt they actually put real gasoline inside those tanker models, as I’d imagine they’d explode the moment they were set on fire.
I'm guessing they built the tankers out of flammable materials.
2:00 PERCY'S FACE I CANT 😂😂😂😂😂
May I please see you rank episodes from Series 17 to Series 21? I asked because I watched a bit of Series 17 to Series 21 and they seem a lot better than Series 6 to Series 16. Series 5 was so popular on Nick. Jr in the UK as well! If only I could've been able to watch Thomas from 1998 to 2001 which were years before I came to life
My Tier Ranking
A-: A Better View for Gordon, Busy Going Backwards, and Rusty & The Boulder
B+: Cranky Bugs, Horrid Lorries, Bye George, Put Upon Percy, Toby & the Flood, Haunted Henry, Stepney Gets Lost, Something in the Air, & Snow
B: Lady Hatt's Birthday Party, James & the Trouble with Trees, Double Teething Problems, Toby's Discovery, Thomas Percy & Old Slow Coach, Oliver's Find, A Big Surprise for Percy & Duncan Gets Spooked.
B-: Happy Ever After, Sir Topham Hatt's Holiday, & Make Someone Happy.
C+: Baa
C: Thomas & the Rumors
C-: Gordon & The Gremlin
48:20 What about the unnamed ghost engine from Season 8 Halloween and Season 18 Flatbeds of Fear?
27:49 Damn bro, I wish! 😂
The darkest Thomas episode is Duncan gets spooked. In gets lost an engine (Stepney) almost dies but in gets spooked an engine ACTUALLY DIES!
I honestly think all episodes in Season 5 are outstanding.
Apart from Gordon and the Gremlin, Snow, and Rumors, the rest are top notch
@@armorpro573 Actually Rumors is my favorite episode of the whole show.
@@ryanfuller912 Fine then
@@armorpro573I also love Gremlin and Snow.
@@ryanfuller912 ok
45:23 Michael Angelis, YIKES!
Can you please make sure to mention Angelis narration for Jack jumps in and A Friend in Need and Brandon's renarrating 6 episodes and that Edward isn't really being rude to Harvey or even Rocky later on?
50:40 - I also notice Edward instead of Gordon. Why didn’t they use Edward?
I can respect your views on rusty and the boulder snow Toby’s discovery and toby and the flood as well the flying truck crash in bye george
Becasue i felt that is the reason on why i have issues on most of the roblox thomas crashes games
Season 5 is great Thomas season
I like it because of how broad the stories are
Think you can do a tier list of classic DVDs/VHSs?
Season 5 is my favorite season too!!!
In the Thomas and Friends world, 5 is a lucky number!
LOL obviously
It does seem to be
Isn't The Fastest Red Engine on Sodor smash even more brutal?
It’s funny that you said Happy Ever After wasn’t your favorite, it’s probably my favorite episode in the whole show… -._-.
Season 5 is my favorite! Look forward to 6-7!
Mine too along with season 3
Season 5 is my favourite as well
In terms of constantly mentioning the US dub, why not use terms, freight cars, conductors, vacation, trucks, English muffins, switches, Sir Topham Hatt etc?
You mind please mentioning that there are worse "engines getting the blame" episode than Middle Engine like Emily's New Route and especially Slippy Sodor in the next Season?
49:50 My favorite episode ever.
hey do you want to make more engines of sodor episodes
Wonderful
I agree Gordon and the Gremlin isn't fantastic, but I quite like that episode and think its a fun watch.
It's not bad, but also not great at the same time
33:33 Revenge of the sith Reference
25:45 brother is tweakin
I fucking love season 5!
It’s my favourite season by far!
Also will you do the hit era too?
Me too.
Season 5 is my favourite season too
Who doesn’t love Season 5? Not me.
@@ryanfuller912 Pretty much everyone loves Season 5 I've even heard some Thomas haters say they love it
Will you add faces to your model engines
3:17 I do, I do!
52:56 Michael Angelis Uh oh!
33:40 Your calling me a whale
Favorite thomas season 5
Duncan gets spooked.
James and the trouble with trees
Toby and the flood
Busy going backwards
My favorite is Rusty and the Boulder
@@armorpro573That's my favourite too
The only problem I have with Lady Hatt's Birthday Party is that...... ITS A 3- STRIKE FORMULA EPISODE. TOPAHM GETS INTO TROUBLE THREE TIMES AND THE LAST ONE WHEN HE FALLS INTO THE MUD PIT IS THE BIG BAD ONE. BUT, I'll give this episode a pass just for the humor. 😅
I have to disagree. Topham Hatt doesn't intentionally make three mistakes, they were just unfortunate circumstances. The difference being in the CGI era, the characters make really stupid decisions that drag on throughout the episode, while in Lady Hatt's Birthday Party, it's actually funny and hilarious.
@armorpro573 Well, even if it wasn't intentional, it still happened three times, and like I said, I give this ep a pass for the humor.
@@LightingHedgehogYT Again, the three strikes formula usually revolves around a character ignoring simple logic or declining help to follow their own pride. Here, Sir Topham Hatt gets into two mishaps that wasn't directly his fault. But regardless, the episode is still pretty wholesome
There’s another episode that uses the 3 strikes formula to its advantage, which is Season 9’s Percy and the Oil Painting
THOMAS & ROYAL & ENGINE ❤😂😊😅🎉
NICE 😏
Coolio
Bohwld out not bowel'd out XD sorry that just sounded weird
also please stop taking God's name in vain... it is disrespectful to those who do believe in God and God Himself. I am not mad just letting you know that not every video has to have that.
Series 5(1998)
Narrated by: Alec Baldwin
Knock it off, you do this on twitter and here all the time and no one likes it.
@@mobian-storytellerYes! These comments are everywhere!!!!
1973
@@jimmymccartney2049 No, shut up.