@@yeboscrebo4451 pretty hypocritical from a church who doesn’t like being called Mormon, even after they spent millions of dollars on an “I’m a Mormon” campaign. Rusty Nelson is the Chief of Word Police
@@rachelczumaya2806 When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context” I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.
He only apologized because it has become public knowledge and they can not control non members. Quite certain he still believes what he believes, as he has been teaching it for years. The church is trying to fix the image real quick, but this is very common among leaders, and I doubt this will be the last time something like this happens, people gonna be recording more of these.
@@rachelczumaya2806 There was nothing out of context there. The dude is a misogynistic white supremacist like most LDS leaders, and I should know, I was among them for 35 years. People just do not like a mirror being held up to show them their own filth.
The issue isn’t the Church. It is cancel culture who seeks to rile people up and cause contention over misunderstandings and words taken out of context. Newsflash, not everyone is as woke or aware as others are. Yet the “why don’t you know better” when woke ideas are very recently in the public discourse is really lacking in understanding. Give people a break and educate kindly. Otherwise it doesn’t help people do better. If our goal is to end racism, we have to do a better job educating people. And no one is educated by a spinster old miser teacher that condemns every mistake.
@@rachelczumaya2806 a “spinster old miser teacher”?! I don’t think Brad Wilcox appreciates being called that, but you’re right… he’s not the person for the job
@@wesanderikaoneal9930 I didn’t call him that. I’m referring to all of you guys to are throwing stones his way. You’re the spinster old miser teachers that condemn a mistake instead of tell someone to “go and sin no more.”
This is a strategy the Mormons use and think they are so cute and clever. They will always approach a question as "Maybe you are asking the wrong question" this is how they rearrange it so they can seem like they addressed it
I'm a Black woman living in a predominantly Mormon area of my city. Missionaries make it a point to never come to my door. I see them all the time, but they have never stepped one foot onto my property. I probably could have left it there at the first sentence of my comment. That would have been enough said✌🏾
@@Spawn303 it wasn’t just passing it off on God‘s timing. He was illustrating the point that when we don’t ask and seek for further revelation and challenge decisions made by our church leaders that it can leave us with bad mistakes. The priesthood ban was a mistake. And he spoke about that too.
@@rachelczumaya2806 I would really like to hear what be should have said. I would love for this all to be just a big misunderstanding. Its hard to get past the whole Blackness as a Curse doctrine, without addressing it directly, and removing it. Maybe they could say something like “that was the Oliver Cowdrey part of doctrine… and we all know that he left the church because of his disagreement with JS.” What do you think? Is it plausible that there could be “translation” errors when it comes to things that are clearly wrong like racism. I guess maybe its too big of a can of worms? They would inevitably have to revisit the whole Native Americans are brown business. Because of their unbelief the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness. Or “the Lamanites sall be dark filthy and loathsome people”
Because he’s a narcissist and doesn’t answer questions. He just twists it by asking another question to make it look like he’s the real victim. It’s terrible.
Correct. IMHO the Black Lives Matter movement needs to go after the Mormon Church and individual Mormons. MORMONISM IS THE CENTER OF RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!
He only apologized because he was called out. He’s been giving the same talk for years. And if you read the whole ‘apology’ it’s very thin. As to BYU ‘reviewing’ the situation… Wilcox is a General Authority in the Young Men’s Presidency. BYU isn’t going to discipline a church leader. And… (dripping sarcasm here) can someone with the second anointing do anything wrong, really?
Saw this on TikTok, it got millions of views. Talk about bad press. This guy ignored the fact that Carter’s threatened to take away tax exempt status, which prompted the change. It’s all about money, anyone in knows this fact. Just a money operation with church window dressings.
Of all the lies anti’s push about the priesthood ban, this one get on my nerves the most. There is literally not a shred of evidence to suggest that President Carter threatened to take away the church’s tax exempt status over the priesthood ban. None, Zero, Zip, Nada, yet you people push it like it’s the absolute truth. I mean this claim has literally no historical basis. Even the people on Ex-mormon reddit will admit that.
@@haydonc5256 lots of evidence to back this up, but if you like fiction and fantasy of the church doctrine , more power to you. I have given up trying to sway those who are on the koolaid diet these todays. I also have documentation of the church spending $18k per toilet in the JSMB building, but you would put believe that anyways. It’s hard to convince someone in a cult of the truth, enjoy the ignorance of bliss .
@@drew8256 Dude, you say "lots of evidence to back this up", yet you provide no evidence. Lol, whatever you say bro. You say you've given up trying to sway "those who are on the koolaid diet these todays." (nice grammar, lol) because you can't actually disprove what I'm saying. Also, what does the church spending money on toilets have to do with the priesthood ban? Also, like all anti's you just like to throw every buzzword at us just to get an emotional reaction and to get people to feel that you're right. Stuff like "Your in a cult" or "Your brainwashed". I guarantee you I've struggled a lot more with my faith than you have with your non-belief. I hated the church when I was a young boy. Hated going to church, hated the Book of Mormon, hated taking the sacrament, hated family home evening, hated all of it. I was converted to the church because I CHOSE to read the Book of Mormon, not because I felt obligated to.
Deeply concerned by BYU= Leading the public to believe something will be done, other than sweep his embarrassment under the rug. He offended every Protestant “who plays church”, to women, and “Blacks” with his condescending verbiage.
@@JD-zu2vl I thought they were all nice and played board games when theyre not in their short sleeved white button down shirts and ties always in pairs.
This is terrible. Instead of brushing off the question of why "African Americans" did not receive the priesthood until 1978 with a rebuttal question of why didn't the whites ("and other races") receive the Priesthood until 1820? If he had just answered, "it was in the Lord's timing " in the first place and left it at that. It would be different. But it just sounds terrible. There are too many racial undertones in the LDS church, and white supremacy- privilege is drenched all over it. You wouldn't understand if you are not a person of color and haven't experienced it.
The whole Lamanite story is predicated on the curse of black skin. Mormons arent the only faith that preaches Racial Redemption, righteous black people being turned white at the second coming, but they did make it a cornerstone of their doctrine.
There are plenty of “people of color” as you say, in the Church. You should go ask some who are “high ranking” members their thoughts, why they remain in the Church, if you are sincerely concerned. God’s timing remains dependent on His children sometimes, and I know that the message Wilcox was trying to relay here could have been better. Thank you for your time.
He also made up a sexist story about an hysterical WOMYN confronting him about the priesthood and recalled his PANIC when his little daughter DARED to play giving a priesthood blessing. The horror!
@@JD-zu2vl what’s your point? I don’t discriminate based on people beliefs. I have personal thoughts about them but I wouldn’t deny service because of it…
@@JD-zu2vl I think if people can be Mormon people can literally believe anything. It’s pathetic how low the bar of evidence is for some. It’s easy to prove false but millions act as if it’s the truest thing on earth. Totally delusional
Brad never meant his apology most will never admit there racist it’s always been like that and will continue to do so and it’s just said yet current members accept this and still sustain there leaders no Matter what it’s a cult for a reason.
For people trying to smooth this over on his behalf, BYU is literally investigating what consequence will come from his conduct. His talk has been condemned by their equality office. As a member of the Church, I am quite pleased with the seriousness they appear to be taking. I wasn't expecting that, and it gives me hope towards continued cultural and accountability changes in the Church. We shouldn't need to be both members and survivors of the faith.
Let me guess, you’ve never heard of zina diantha Huntington? Yeah that’s because this so called religion hides massive amounts of information from its members.
The BYU investigation will conclude with he is really sorry and there is nothing to see here folks let's move on down the road. If worst comes to worst they could always move him to work in the in the church office buliding.
Right what else can they do anyone that believes the Book of Mormon, believes in the “Curse of Blackness” or black skin, and Race Redemption. Black people being resurrected as white people.
Why Should black people be Mad ? Lol The Mormon church doesn't hold the Priesthood , The Mormon Church are not the Sons of Aaron and Are not Hebrew Israelites ,
Former Mormon here. Nobody has mentioned the real reason Blacks did not have the Priesthood until 1978. I was told as a Mormon that Blacks are the descendants of Cain who killed his brother Abel. For that he was cursed and his skin was darkened and this curse was passed on to all his descendants. Also look at the timing here: 1978. The Civil Rights Movement. The Church was afraid they could lose their tax exempt status because of their discrimination against Blacks. It is all about money volks! .
@@rachelczumaya2806 Here’s the whole quote "I know that the history of the church is not to seek apologies or to give them," Oaks said in an interview Tuesday. "We sometimes look back on issues and say, 'Maybe that was counterproductive for what we wish to achieve,' but we look forward and not backward." So… how was it taken out of context, exactly?
This is something my dad will say if he doesn't admit a mistake by responding me asking me a questioning about another persons decisions or controversial lifestyle. I hated manipulation because it just shows immaturity, insecurity, not trustworthy and unapologetic.
His entire speech is filled with dangerous rhetoric. And such aggression. I’m so glad I left that church when I was young. Gotta say I haven’t laughed like I did watching this in a while lol
The s..t they said about blacks being an inferior race and all was worse . It was just normal discourse. They long believed blacks were racially inferior and his and many other general authorities beliefs are extremely inaccurate in that discourse.
And so Heavenly Father is mocked and ridiculed again because men want what men want when they want it and they are crying when they get offended because of something that Heavenly Father says. Read the Scriptures but I guess people will find something in them to pick on as well.
What is the correct term, I'm honestly asking so I know. Would the correct way to save it have been "black people" instead of "the blacks"? How do my friends with more melatonin perfer it? Do you like African American or People of Color, or is decribing someone as "a black guy" acceptable. Thanks for the perspective!
I'm pretty sure that if you were offended by this . . . . 1) You didn't listen to the entire message he was communicating. 2) you walk around in life just waiting to be offended, period. Satan is a master, in these last days, at getting to be so sensitive that we are offended by everything. This moves us to run and gather into groups of defense. We then lash out and want to "cancel" the "offender". This alienates us from each other and creates division in our culture. This is the exact opposite of the Nephites after Christ ministry in America. They lived in peace and harmony because there were no manner of "ites" among them they were of one heart and one mind. When we are offended by something . . . . it would be best to look inside and question ourselves as to WHY we were offended. If this talked offended you . . . . . hold on, what's coming down the road will freak you outta your ever loving minds. Now, go and love somebody y'all ! ! !
Sad! How else to describe this behavior, except pathetically sad. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints only condones such behavior, when it announces that Brad Wilcox will be the commencement speaker at BYU Idaho’s graduation ceremonies on April 6, 2023. Such support for racism runs throughout Church history, including, but not limited to: 1) In 1968, the John Birch Society (JBS) made an effort to nominate Benson (as an apostle and to later become President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-saints)as a presidential candidate, with segregationist Senator Strom Thurmond as Vice President, for which Benson sought and obtained approval from LDS Church president David O. McKay.[23] 2) Several months later, Benson flew to Alabama to meet with segregationist Alabama Governor George Wallace, who asked Benson to become his vice presidential running mate for the presidency. This time McKay refused Benson's request, even after Wallace himself wrote to McKay.[24][25] Please reference the Wikipedia article for Ezra Taft Benson. George Wallace must have been even too much for the Church.
People make mistakes. Sometimes many times. We can assume he was asked to apologize, or we can forgive and choose to trust that he really is trying to be a better person and that he genuinely made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Over and over again. It happens. It's part of God's plan.
It ignor s the fact that the black members were restricted because of racist beliefs. Look up race and the priesthood gospel essay on the church site which basically says they got it wrong
He's not an attorney for the LDS. He ranks as an upper level clergyman as compared to other churches. If an archbishop gives a sermon, he is not just representing the beliefs of the church as a corporate entity but presumably his own beliefs . Unless this particular job in LDS is in PR, and by the way he is terrible at that particular gig, he is speaking as an individual.
This isn't just about race. Brad Wilcox was demeaning to women, blacks, people of other faiths and to doubting/former members of the church who are struggling with serious, legitimate questions about church history, etc. That kind of mansplaining, gaslighting and chicanery just won't cut it in the 21st century. People are waking up and asking serious questions about the church's policies and doctrines and this kind of roadshow presentation that Brad Wilcox made only serves to make people conclude that there are no legitimate answers.
John the Baptist restoring the Aaronic Priesthood, and Peter, James, and John restoring the Melchizedek Priesthood, are said to have both occurred in 1829.
His whole life has been a track record of helping the youth and from 2 sentences everyone is able to conclude hes a horrible racist man? How many sentences should you be judged over?
He’s not a horrible racist man. In fact, I think he’s pretty nice. Still, he should be held accountable for his words and actions. Hopefully, this will help him examine some of his views and see where he could do better.
I don’t believe he is a bad person, he is in fact quite sincere about his beliefs, the problem is not him, he is just a product of what he grew up learning from the institution, he is repeating what he heard and learned his whole life. It’s the system .
He spoke vehemently against Bible Believing Christians, saying we "play church." He has no idea and zero empathy for what God's word Actually says!! He's leading thousands of youth away from Jesus who don't agree with the LDS church. THERE IS HOPE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH!!
@@rolandsmith4394 yes because all democrats worship satan. While trump supporters are storming the capitol, the Biden supporters are drinking babies blood. Shine on you crazy QAnon theorist. Make America Great Again and the vaccine is part of the new world order, right?
Let's stop talking about racism please, I'm a brown member and I don't feel inferior of whites and I know the church is true with all my heart. I know all the points of criticism about the church and that hasn't affect my testimony at all.
There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.
This is the very definition of sensationalism and stereotyping in the media: "reporting news stories in ways that makes the audience worried or excited, rather than reporting accurately." This news station played a sliver of a clip of what his reply was, so it's not fair to say "He didn't answer the question." The media carefully only played bits& pieces of a the reply.
Are you serious? Holy cow. His whole talk was done in a condescending. As members of the church we aren't supposed to teach others to be less sensitive. Our values are to teach "with boldness but not overbearance". He sounded like a desperate, immature, used car salesman. No wonder people look at us like idiots
I would never subject my children to the toxic, manmade garbage Brad Wilcox taught those youth. The church should remove him from his general calling and from his position at BYU. To not remove him is to agree with what he said.
Oh geez… 🙄 So because people took his words out of context, he has to apologize and clarify what his meaning was? I am so tired of cancel culture. His answer was incorrect and poorly worded, but why get so riled up? Led to contention at a heartbeat instead of seeking understanding? Not everyone is as “woke” as you think you are and you just expect them to “get it”? Grow up.
Brad Wilcox is a leader and he makes his living by teaching and talking. He is speaking to a diverse group of people and has a responsibility to educate himself on the POC experience. He’s not going to change. He’s to old but hopefully he will educate himself to at least understand how his words separate and divide.
When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context” I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.
Nothing wrong with what he said. The point he was communicating was that the priesthood has been restricted to different peoples at different times and that we should look at the big picture.
I hate to say it but so many Mormons see other races as lesser. Sure we could say that goes for any white population in a multitude of demographics but all I need to say is BYU
The fact he says “the blacks” in 2022 ahhhhhhhh
Word police, get a life
I know 🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
The blacks yes, they are the blacks and some people are the whites
@@yeboscrebo4451 pretty hypocritical from a church who doesn’t like being called Mormon, even after they spent millions of dollars on an “I’m a Mormon” campaign.
Rusty Nelson is the Chief of Word Police
@@rydiddy3936 I don’t disagree
Why did he only apologize for his recent talk? He gave about the same talk in Georgia about two years ago. It’s on UA-cam as well.
Should he apologize for something being taken out of context?
@@rachelczumaya2806
When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context”
I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.
You haven’t listened to the entire talk obviously. Nothing was taken out of context.
He only apologized because it has become public knowledge and they can not control non members. Quite certain he still believes what he believes, as he has been teaching it for years. The church is trying to fix the image real quick, but this is very common among leaders, and I doubt this will be the last time something like this happens, people gonna be recording more of these.
@@rachelczumaya2806 There was nothing out of context there. The dude is a misogynistic white supremacist like most LDS leaders, and I should know, I was among them for 35 years. People just do not like a mirror being held up to show them their own filth.
Ending racism is all about God's timing? I don't think so! This church has real issues.
The issue isn’t the Church. It is cancel culture who seeks to rile people up and cause contention over misunderstandings and words taken out of context. Newsflash, not everyone is as woke or aware as others are. Yet the “why don’t you know better” when woke ideas are very recently in the public discourse is really lacking in understanding. Give people a break and educate kindly. Otherwise it doesn’t help people do better. If our goal is to end racism, we have to do a better job educating people. And no one is educated by a spinster old miser teacher that condemns every mistake.
@@rachelczumaya2806 I was raised Mormon and left because of this type of bigotry. They know better, believe me.
@@rachelczumaya2806 a “spinster old miser teacher”?!
I don’t think Brad Wilcox appreciates being called that, but you’re right… he’s not the person for the job
@@wesanderikaoneal9930 I didn’t call him that. I’m referring to all of you guys to are throwing stones his way. You’re the spinster old miser teachers that condemn a mistake instead of tell someone to “go and sin no more.”
@@rachelczumaya2806 I was just messing with you. Ad hominem attacks are useless
This is a strategy the Mormons use and think they are so cute and clever. They will always approach a question as "Maybe you are asking the wrong question" this is how they rearrange it so they can seem like they addressed it
I'm a Black woman living in a predominantly Mormon area of my city. Missionaries make it a point to never come to my door. I see them all the time, but they have never stepped one foot onto my property. I probably could have left it there at the first sentence of my comment. That would have been enough said✌🏾
That is because they know they can't recruit you
You are probably better off without these crazy people... ❤
That's Yahua's protection.
He never answered the question tho
Because the whole talk wasn’t given in this snippet?
He passed it off on gods timing. He never apologized
@@Spawn303 it wasn’t just passing it off on God‘s timing. He was illustrating the point that when we don’t ask and seek for further revelation and challenge decisions made by our church leaders that it can leave us with bad mistakes. The priesthood ban was a mistake. And he spoke about that too.
@@rachelczumaya2806 I would really like to hear what be should have said. I would love for this all to be just a big misunderstanding. Its hard to get past the whole Blackness as a Curse doctrine, without addressing it directly, and removing it. Maybe they could say something like “that was the Oliver Cowdrey part of doctrine… and we all know that he left the church because of his disagreement with JS.” What do you think? Is it plausible that there could be “translation” errors when it comes to things that are clearly wrong like racism. I guess maybe its too big of a can of worms? They would inevitably have to revisit the whole Native Americans are brown business.
Because of their unbelief the Lamanites are cursed, receive a skin of blackness. Or “the Lamanites sall be dark filthy and loathsome people”
Because he’s a narcissist and doesn’t answer questions. He just twists it by asking another question to make it look like he’s the real victim. It’s terrible.
Latter Day Racism.
Correct. IMHO the Black Lives Matter movement needs to go after the Mormon Church and individual Mormons. MORMONISM IS THE CENTER OF RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!
He's not apologizing for what he said he's apologizing for being caught
Because his words were taken out of context…
@@rachelczumaya2806
"The Blacks"? That's racist.
@@UnknownUser69698 ya ok
@@rachelczumaya2806 in what context would that speech be not racist? And why?
@@jeffs4483 No, It isn’t and he also said the whites but of course, that doesn’t count. Get a dictionary.
This is the second time I know of that this guy has made this exact same statement. No sincerity here. He was given the order to apologize and he did.
He only apologized because he was called out. He’s been giving the same talk for years. And if you read the whole ‘apology’ it’s very thin. As to BYU ‘reviewing’ the situation… Wilcox is a General Authority in the Young Men’s Presidency. BYU isn’t going to discipline a church leader. And… (dripping sarcasm here) can someone with the second anointing do anything wrong, really?
No one should be suprised by this, if you know the history of LDS and black people this is nothing new.
This is what you get when his environment is so insular.
The blacks! The blacks!
Saw this on TikTok, it got millions of views. Talk about bad press. This guy ignored the fact that Carter’s threatened to take away tax exempt status, which prompted the change. It’s all about money, anyone in knows this fact. Just a money operation with church window dressings.
Of all the lies anti’s push about the priesthood ban, this one get on my nerves the most. There is literally not a shred of evidence to suggest that President Carter threatened to take away the church’s tax exempt status over the priesthood ban. None, Zero, Zip, Nada, yet you people push it like it’s the absolute truth. I mean this claim has literally no historical basis. Even the people on Ex-mormon reddit will admit that.
@@haydonc5256 lots of evidence to back this up, but if you like fiction and fantasy of the church doctrine , more power to you. I have given up trying to sway those who are on the koolaid diet these todays. I also have documentation of the church spending $18k per toilet in the JSMB building, but you would put believe that anyways. It’s hard to convince someone in a cult of the truth, enjoy the ignorance of bliss .
@@drew8256 Dude, you say "lots of evidence to back this up", yet you provide no evidence. Lol, whatever you say bro. You say you've given up trying to sway "those who are on the koolaid diet these todays." (nice grammar, lol) because you can't actually disprove what I'm saying. Also, what does the church spending money on toilets have to do with the priesthood ban?
Also, like all anti's you just like to throw every buzzword at us just to get an emotional reaction and to get people to feel that you're right. Stuff like "Your in a cult" or "Your brainwashed".
I guarantee you I've struggled a lot more with my faith than you have with your non-belief. I hated the church when I was a young boy. Hated going to church, hated the Book of Mormon, hated taking the sacrament, hated family home evening, hated all of it. I was converted to the church because I CHOSE to read the Book of Mormon, not because I felt obligated to.
@@haydonc5256 sounds like you should relax and have an ice cold Pay Lay Ale
I can't believe anyone would listen to this with anything but shame and dismay. Is this really what the LDS church has become? It's just SAD!
What do u mean become? It was always like that in the church, wasn't it that they believed blacks held impure souls?
Ask them what they think about Lamanites?
His words speak volumes.
This is one guy….
It’s what it’s always been.
never heard of him, but them mormons need to come to jesus and give up this BS
Another feigned apology.
Just admit who you are, and what you teach and taught.
How in the world does anyone who looks like this actually consider themselves to be physically superior to others?
Deeply concerned by BYU= Leading the public to believe something will be done, other than sweep his embarrassment under the rug. He offended every Protestant “who plays church”, to women, and “Blacks” with his condescending verbiage.
What did he say that was wrong. People today do not understand truth when they hear it.
What did he mean by that? Was he saying why it took so long for them to ban black people?
Mixed race ex mormon here, but I felt like "the blacks" everday. The stuff said to me in singles ward made me leave. Oof.
nobody cares
The more I learn about this sect of Christianity, the more evil I see.
@@kdpowers lol
@@JD-zu2vl I thought they were all nice and played board games when theyre not in their short sleeved white button down shirts and ties always in pairs.
@@kdpowers Find a people who are nicer. You can't.
Sounded like a snotty girl being mean to her friends.
Let's not blame this on girls. Sounded like an arrogant boy who needs lessons in the fact that the priesthood isn't always right
This is terrible. Instead of brushing off the question of why "African Americans" did not receive the priesthood until 1978 with a rebuttal question of why didn't the whites ("and other races") receive the Priesthood until 1820? If he had just answered, "it was in the Lord's timing " in the first place and left it at that. It would be different. But it just sounds terrible. There are too many racial undertones in the LDS church, and white supremacy- privilege is drenched all over it. You wouldn't understand if you are not a person of color and haven't experienced it.
The whole Lamanite story is predicated on the curse of black skin. Mormons arent the only faith that preaches Racial Redemption, righteous black people being turned white at the second coming, but they did make it a cornerstone of their doctrine.
There are plenty of “people of color” as you say, in the Church. You should go ask some who are “high ranking” members their thoughts, why they remain in the Church, if you are sincerely concerned. God’s timing remains dependent on His children sometimes, and I know that the message Wilcox was trying to relay here could have been better. Thank you for your time.
Bruh, everything you say is an undertone, you just don't see it from all the way up on your high horse.
He also made up a sexist story about an hysterical WOMYN confronting him about the priesthood and recalled his PANIC when his little daughter DARED to play giving a priesthood blessing. The horror!
Women do frequently get hysterical and the priesthood isn’t for women so….
Yup, sick and completely misguided. We are missing the point my LDS people. Maybe she played lawyer or doctor as well. Sick little girl.
Alright, Black Allen
You guys missed so much. He offended just about every protected class
Protected class = can’t compete with superior whites
Mormons are a protected class too
@@JD-zu2vl what’s your point? I don’t discriminate based on people beliefs. I have personal thoughts about them but I wouldn’t deny service because of it…
@@damonm3 you clearly do
@@JD-zu2vl I think if people can be Mormon people can literally believe anything. It’s pathetic how low the bar of evidence is for some. It’s easy to prove false but millions act as if it’s the truest thing on earth. Totally delusional
Brad Wilcox exemplifies the worst parts of Mormonism. Intolerance, arrogance, and avarice.
Creepy looking man.
How do you know it's a man. Did you ask it how it identifies?
@@JD-zu2vl ok, so "it" is a woman then.
@@markkrispin6944 Gender is fluid. Might be 2 spirit, maybe an asexual or intersex. How dare you. You should apologize!
I’m so glad I left this church.
Poor guy tanked his whole career in just seconds🧐
What did he say that was wrong?
Mormon brainwash has you blind.
It's a C U L T !
Brad Wilcox is a horrible human being…… and his representation of the LDS church makes perfect sense….
Since you know him so well...
@@boisedisabilitylaw His conduct shew him so well lol.
😂 Oh this antimormons are always so hateful
Youre horrible though lol
Brad never meant his apology most will never admit there racist it’s always been like that and will continue to do so and it’s just said yet current members accept this and still sustain there leaders no Matter what it’s a cult for a reason.
You're just saying that cause he's the wrong skin color. Maybe you are the one being wayciss
I think the church is trying to take down any criticism of the church on TikTok. Control much!
He apologized because he got caught, because it was leaked. He has said that over and over.
To add proper context, Fox News should have also included the talk two years ago, where he said exactly the same thing. Things that make you go, hmmm.
No one cares about your hippie over reactions to everything to the point of nonsense.
People like you just whine and don't stop whining. It's getting quite old for everyone else.
The church is not what it claims to be.
The most surprising thing about this was how no one tried to stop him from continuing his talk lol
For people trying to smooth this over on his behalf, BYU is literally investigating what consequence will come from his conduct. His talk has been condemned by their equality office. As a member of the Church, I am quite pleased with the seriousness they appear to be taking. I wasn't expecting that, and it gives me hope towards continued cultural and accountability changes in the Church. We shouldn't need to be both members and survivors of the faith.
You really think BYU will do anything to a GA? Not likely.
Let me guess, you’ve never heard of zina diantha Huntington? Yeah that’s because this so called religion hides massive amounts of information from its members.
The BYU investigation will conclude with he is really sorry and there is nothing to see here folks let's move on down the road. If worst comes to worst they could always move him to work in the in the church office buliding.
“Quite pleased” with the word police and cancel culture? You’re insane
Right what else can they do anyone that believes the Book of Mormon, believes in the “Curse of Blackness” or black skin, and Race Redemption. Black people being resurrected as white people.
Why Should black people be Mad ? Lol The Mormon church doesn't hold the Priesthood , The Mormon Church are not the Sons of Aaron and Are not Hebrew Israelites ,
Former Mormon here. Nobody has mentioned the real reason Blacks did not have the Priesthood until 1978. I was told as a Mormon that Blacks are the descendants of Cain who killed his brother Abel. For that he was cursed and his skin was darkened and this curse was passed on to all his descendants. Also look at the timing here: 1978. The Civil Rights Movement. The Church was afraid they could lose their tax exempt status because of their discrimination against Blacks. It is all about money volks! .
I believe Bro. Wilcox's apology is helpful. I recall President Oaks saying the Church doesn't apologize. Why is that?
That is taking words out of context. The church doesn’t apologize for doctrine. Misspeaks according to PC culture are another ballgame.
@@rachelczumaya2806 Thank you!
Because they received their second annoiting
@@rachelczumaya2806 nope, same ball game, they don’t say sorry in any category
@@rachelczumaya2806
Here’s the whole quote
"I know that the history of the church is not to seek apologies or to give them," Oaks said in an interview Tuesday. "We sometimes look back on issues and say, 'Maybe that was counterproductive for what we wish to achieve,' but we look forward and not backward."
So… how was it taken out of context, exactly?
Matthew 7:15-20 seems like a definitive rebuked by Jesus against doctrines and "churches" like these.
This is something my dad will say if he doesn't admit a mistake by responding me asking me a questioning about another persons decisions or controversial lifestyle. I hated manipulation because it just shows immaturity, insecurity, not trustworthy and unapologetic.
His entire speech is filled with dangerous rhetoric. And such aggression. I’m so glad I left that church when I was young. Gotta say I haven’t laughed like I did watching this in a while lol
The s..t they said about blacks being an inferior race and all was worse . It was just normal discourse. They long believed blacks were racially inferior and his and many other general authorities beliefs are extremely inaccurate in that discourse.
Church is probably better with you gone haha
And so Heavenly Father is mocked and ridiculed again because men want what men want when they want it and they are crying when they get offended because of something that Heavenly Father says. Read the Scriptures but I guess people will find something in them to pick on as well.
Did you have a point to make about the actual statements made by Brad Wilcox during his talk?
Why is this a racist remark? Why is an apology requested or given for what was said? I don't understand why this was a racist remark.
What is the correct term, I'm honestly asking so I know. Would the correct way to save it have been "black people" instead of "the blacks"? How do my friends with more melatonin perfer it? Do you like African American or People of Color, or is decribing someone as "a black guy" acceptable. Thanks for the perspective!
African American
He has nothing to apologize for that's just the way it was in that time
I new you are white
He only apologizes because the church asked him to he doesnt mean it
wait,,, what?
Some leaders were meant to lead others meant to try us.
I'm pretty sure that if you were offended by this . . . . 1) You didn't listen to the entire message he was communicating. 2) you walk around in life just waiting to be offended, period. Satan is a master, in these last days, at getting to be so sensitive that we are offended by everything. This moves us to run and gather into groups of defense. We then lash out and want to "cancel" the "offender". This alienates us from each other and creates division in our culture. This is the exact opposite of the Nephites after Christ ministry in America. They lived in peace and harmony because there were no manner of "ites" among them they were of one heart and one mind. When we are offended by something . . . . it would be best to look inside and question ourselves as to WHY we were offended. If this talked offended you . . . . . hold on, what's coming down the road will freak you outta your ever loving minds. Now, go and love somebody y'all ! ! !
F you and your racist church
Actually I have to apologize. Racist *cult* not church
Thank you so much. 100% right!
Sad! How else to describe this behavior, except pathetically sad.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints only condones such behavior, when it announces that Brad Wilcox will be the commencement speaker at BYU Idaho’s graduation ceremonies on April 6, 2023. Such support for racism runs throughout Church history, including, but not limited to:
1) In 1968, the John Birch Society (JBS) made an effort to nominate Benson (as an apostle and to later become President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-saints)as a presidential candidate, with segregationist Senator Strom Thurmond as Vice President, for which Benson sought and obtained approval from LDS Church president David O. McKay.[23]
2) Several months later, Benson flew to Alabama to meet with segregationist Alabama Governor George Wallace, who asked Benson to become his vice presidential running mate for the presidency. This time McKay refused Benson's request, even after Wallace himself wrote to McKay.[24][25]
Please reference the Wikipedia article for Ezra Taft Benson.
George Wallace must have been even too much for the Church.
This people are nuts, the only thing he shouldn’t be waiting is in being on a diet 😅😅😅😅😅
People make mistakes. Sometimes many times. We can assume he was asked to apologize, or we can forgive and choose to trust that he really is trying to be a better person and that he genuinely made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Over and over again. It happens. It's part of God's plan.
And why was it that women could not have multiple husbands. Isn't that sexist?
I’m not understanding what he was saying in am not a primary English speaker or I’m getting confused. What is he saying
Get em outta here!!!
What if Blacks boycott the military right now?
Did this man actually say this???? Unbelievable
What did he say that was bad?
What he said made sense. The Preisthood was restricted to certain groups at different times.
It’s a made up thing. There’s no such thing as magic.
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@@Richard.Atkinson ??
It ignor s the fact that the black members were restricted because of racist beliefs. Look up race and the priesthood gospel essay on the church site which basically says they got it wrong
Wilcox represents the Mormon Church. Don't blame him personally for what the church believes.
Yeah, but he’s bought in and us puppeting it… he’s not innocent either.
He's not an attorney for the LDS. He ranks as an upper level clergyman as compared to other churches. If an archbishop gives a sermon, he is not just representing the beliefs of the church as a corporate entity but presumably his own beliefs . Unless this particular job in LDS is in PR, and by the way he is terrible at that particular gig, he is speaking as an individual.
Europeans and biblical text goes together like a hand in a blender
He had no need to apoligize. He wasn't making a racial statement. It was an AWESOME talk!
Typical racist Mormon
They always apologize lol
What are they supposed to do?
@@ethanflippinarnold6935 they’re not supposed to say what they really believe in a setting that is recorded or can be shared.
This isn't just about race. Brad Wilcox was demeaning to women, blacks, people of other faiths and to doubting/former members of the church who are struggling with serious, legitimate questions about church history, etc. That kind of mansplaining, gaslighting and chicanery just won't cut it in the 21st century. People are waking up and asking serious questions about the church's policies and doctrines and this kind of roadshow presentation that Brad Wilcox made only serves to make people conclude that there are no legitimate answers.
You are the one who is the hater here. You even just admitted it
Your opinion stinks
@@JD-zu2vl - no questions allowed. Doubt your doubts.. .
@@kaijusushi8165 ask all the questions you want, you'll just prove more and more that you're the hater here.
@@JD-zu2vl - it will take more than an ad hominem attack on me to end the questions people are asking
Why is 1829 significant?
John the Baptist restoring the Aaronic Priesthood, and Peter, James, and John restoring the Melchizedek Priesthood, are said to have both occurred in 1829.
Seriously!!!!
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He needs to apologize for the entire talk! The comment about blacks and the priesthood was only one of many, many ignorant and hateful comments!
Ok genius what else did the monster say
@@JD-zu2vl I hope you're joking, not very christ like
@@chevonbayless798 those silly tricks don't work on me missy
@@JD-zu2vl lol I don't understand what you are trying to say but, have a great day!
@@chevonbayless798 No one understands what you're trying to say
Heard Bro Wilcox speak once, he is a great guy, particularly resonates with the youth.
I think this just came out differently than he imagined it.
Yeh. It came out about 70 years too late. Young people are more informed and sophisticated today than the pre 60's era.
Susan Bergman I don’t know what you are talking about friend.
@@haydnmclennan4739 Well, I stand corrected. Not all Mormon youth are well informed now a days.
Susan Bergman latter day saints*
@@susanbergman9765 lol
Got caught.
His whole life has been a track record of helping the youth and from 2 sentences everyone is able to conclude hes a horrible racist man? How many sentences should you be judged over?
He’s not a horrible racist man. In fact, I think he’s pretty nice. Still, he should be held accountable for his words and actions. Hopefully, this will help him examine some of his views and see where he could do better.
He's been giving this racist speech for years.
Umm if that's the demeanor of him helping the youth, I don't appreciate that kind of help. Help...what help? Lol
@@Cogito211 no kidding! Racism, misogyny, scare tactics, homophobia. None of it is "helpful" to the youth or anyone else.
I don’t believe he is a bad person, he is in fact quite sincere about his beliefs, the problem is not him, he is just a product of what he grew up learning from the institution, he is repeating what he heard and learned his whole life. It’s the system .
Sure he did 😒
He spoke vehemently against Bible Believing Christians, saying we "play church." He has no idea and zero empathy for what God's word Actually says!! He's leading thousands of youth away from Jesus who don't agree with the LDS church. THERE IS HOPE OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH!!
The world is a mess, Id say you were wrong
@Nev Miscellaneous Sounds crazy but if you would like to present evidence to prove your case, go ahead.
Republicans be like “Trump-Wilcox 2024!”
That’ll pull the Utah, Arizona, Idaho, Nevada and Colorado votes
@@HarveyDroke Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina
Demonrats be like Biden-Satan 2024.
@@rolandsmith4394 yes because all democrats worship satan. While trump supporters are storming the capitol, the Biden supporters are drinking babies blood. Shine on you crazy QAnon theorist. Make America Great Again and the vaccine is part of the new world order, right?
@@HarveyDroke so Democrats don’t drink baby blood then?
Let's stop talking about racism please, I'm a brown member and I don't feel inferior of whites and I know the church is true with all my heart. I know all the points of criticism about the church and that hasn't affect my testimony at all.
What did he say wrong?
There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.
And you need to have an iq below room temperature to believe any of that nonsense.
I'm lost here. What did he say that was viewed as racist? He seems to be talking about the timing of the LORD In working with people.
It wasn't the lord's timing, it was the IRS's timing
This is the very definition of sensationalism and stereotyping in the media:
"reporting news stories in ways that makes the audience worried or excited, rather than reporting accurately."
This news station played a sliver of a clip of what his reply was, so it's not fair to say "He didn't answer the question." The media carefully only played bits& pieces of a the reply.
Brad did nothing wrong 🤦🏻♂️
You cannot be serious. You are part of the problem.
Then why did he apologize?
😂😂
Cannanites were Black and couldn’t hold the priesthood.. read Genesis .. ITS THE LORDS PLAN NOT THE BRETHREN
I don't feel he said anything wrong. We all need to stop being so sensitive to things that we don't agree with.
Are you serious? Holy cow. His whole talk was done in a condescending. As members of the church we aren't supposed to teach others to be less sensitive. Our values are to teach "with boldness but not overbearance". He sounded like a desperate, immature, used car salesman. No wonder people look at us like idiots
@@tawneenielsen4080 Shuddup bissch
It's because today's generation gets offended at every little thing they can make offensive.
I would never subject my children to the toxic, manmade garbage Brad Wilcox taught those youth. The church should remove him from his general calling and from his position at BYU. To not remove him is to agree with what he said.
What if you are manmade garbage
Oh geez… 🙄 So because people took his words out of context, he has to apologize and clarify what his meaning was? I am so tired of cancel culture. His answer was incorrect and poorly worded, but why get so riled up? Led to contention at a heartbeat instead of seeking understanding? Not everyone is as “woke” as you think you are and you just expect them to “get it”? Grow up.
@@ahgue-YT it doesn’t need to be. 🤷🏼♀️
@@ahgue-YT So let’s teach people, not throw them away.
Brad Wilcox is a leader and he makes his living by teaching and talking. He is speaking to a diverse group of people and has a responsibility to educate himself on the POC experience. He’s not going to change. He’s to old but hopefully he will educate himself to at least understand how his words separate and divide.
When something is based on a lie, it will always be indefensible. So Mormons don’t have a defense other than “you don’t understand” or “it’s out of context”
I’ve watched the whole talk. I was Mormon for 28 years. He’s not being taken out of context.
@@rachelczumaya2806 I hope we can begin thinking this way.
I support you and you didn't insult anyone or would ever do so
Well, at least he tried apologizing. That is pretty rare with LDS leaders.
Jesus is Lord Radio. Listen: “THE LORD SPEAKS AGAINST THE FALSE DOCTRINES & RACISM IN THE PRESENT DAY CHURCH" on Repent and Prepare the way.
Nothing wrong with what he said. The point he was communicating was that the priesthood has been restricted to different peoples at different times and that we should look at the big picture.
Exactly!
Then why did he apologize? And why did BYU disavow his statements?
It’s just religion. No need to take it so seriously.
As a black male is it wrong that I understand what he was trying to say?
Whatever
Disgusting...the church should question Wilcox "callings."
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I hate to say it but so many Mormons see other races as lesser. Sure we could say that goes for any white population in a multitude of demographics but all I need to say is BYU
so stereotypical and so offensive, i’ve never once seen myself above any poc.
lol i don't get it What did he say? What did he need to apologize for?
As a former BYU student and a member of THE church I only have to repent of my own sins; not those that other people think I have.
Well, bless your heart, hun...