The Mormon church in Canada: Where did more than $1 billion go? - The Fifth Estate

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  • @happytrails699
    @happytrails699 2 роки тому +156

    Deliver food to neighbors in need, where you can actually see where the money is going

    • @davisholman8149
      @davisholman8149 2 роки тому +34

      I left the Mormon Church after being an active member for half a century. The money part of it makes me gag. Little grandmas paying tithes yet having to eat ramen for weeks in order to do so. It appalling. I left after studying the real church history, and found out I was lied to my whole life. My life would have been totally different if I had not been brain washed.

    • @MariamMariam-ue7vz
      @MariamMariam-ue7vz 2 роки тому +4

      @@davisholman8149 how were you lied to?

    • @srso4660
      @srso4660 2 роки тому +11

      @@MariamMariam-ue7vz find out for yourself, the CES letter is a good place to start.

    • @boysrus61
      @boysrus61 2 роки тому +6

      @@srso4660 "Letter For My Wife" is another.

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

  • @estherrodriguez546
    @estherrodriguez546 2 роки тому +440

    Once a religious entity claims tax exemption, there sh be 100% transparency, to dismiss any doubts and suspicion of fraud 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @jackiepowell7513
      @jackiepowell7513 2 роки тому +6

      Jesus didn't even extoll the Temple. He said " I can destroy and raise it in 3 days". We re the temple Body of Christ.

    • @jackiepowell7513
      @jackiepowell7513 2 роки тому +5

      But... you don t want govt checking. Maybe a citizen s panel w random accountants. Not government!!!!

    • @janice8514
      @janice8514 2 роки тому +11

      @@jackiepowell7513 he didn't want money to be in the church, he tipped all of the tables over and got angry about it. I'm not sure of the book and verse.

    • @lisamaria661
      @lisamaria661 2 роки тому +13

      Do you realize that all churches have tax exemption?

    • @m.m145
      @m.m145 2 роки тому

      The reason is... because the government is to busy with their own fraud.

  • @ivonna.tinkle
    @ivonna.tinkle 2 роки тому +531

    As someone who was raised in the Mormon church and is (at this moment) sitting at a block away from downtown Salt Lake just blocks away from the LDS temple. I hope that something meaningful will come of this.
    I also think the church of Scientology and their tax exempt status should also be investigated by the IRS,

    • @MikelGCinema
      @MikelGCinema 2 роки тому +62

      The Church of Scientology was investigated by the IRS but the results were supressed by political interests. As usual.

    • @EvelineNow
      @EvelineNow Рік тому +14

      I guess all in the name of Jesus
      Wow!

    • @timmyjones1921
      @timmyjones1921 Рік тому +9

      I was a member at Mormon Church in Cape Girardeau , Missouri The Mormon Church did not wrong to me . I left because of personal short comings of my own inner self I live in Minnesota and California now days when I'm not in Florida.

    • @biggzzify
      @biggzzify Рік тому +16

      all religions

    • @JHNative
      @JHNative Рік тому +15

      All Churches are meant to be tax exempt. There is a reason for this. If you tax a religious organization that violates the separation between Church and state and Churches will have every right to be involved (in every way) in politics. The wall of separation is tax exemption.

  • @tomtaylor3523
    @tomtaylor3523 2 роки тому +106

    A lot like Scientology, it's all about the money. Both of these churches should lose their tax free status. The leaders of this churches should be prosecuted and sent to prison.

    • @adamcraft9118
      @adamcraft9118 2 роки тому +5

      I’m not religious, but what is the difference between the Norman’s doing this and the Catholics?

    • @tomtaylor3523
      @tomtaylor3523 2 роки тому +10

      @@adamcraft9118 Catholics like the boys, Mormons like the young girls.

    • @bellalove3097
      @bellalove3097 Рік тому +5

      @@tomtaylor3523 omgosh.....too funny!!!

    • @LanielPhoto
      @LanielPhoto Рік тому +2

      @@adamcraft9118 -Study your history and you won't be so ignorant. Ever hear of all the "Hotel Dieu"s ? Or the Missions? Lot of bad, but even more good.

    • @OneMamaToAnother
      @OneMamaToAnother 8 місяців тому

      One of the big differences between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other religions is that it is a lay church. People volunteer thier time. Even the President of the church is not paid. He had a long career as a heart surgeon before joining the leadership. This allows for more money to be put into serving others. Things like the welfare system (ranches, orchards, processing plants), education (universities, online degrees, training & practicums) and of course humanitarian projects. The church gave over 1 billion to humanitarian aid in 2023 alone. The church covers overhead so 100% of donations go to the projects.

  • @crescentmoonchild4031
    @crescentmoonchild4031 2 роки тому +400

    Remember the story in the Bible where the rich man built bigger barns to hold his wealth instead of sharing with needy? He died that night not able to use his money. This reminds me the church is building bigger barns.

    • @rogerprince5925
      @rogerprince5925 2 роки тому +40

      remember the story of Joseph who was sold into Egypt and helped to prepare for 7 years of famine. the time is coming that the storage will be needed like never before. Also the church has been helping the bagger . the wealthy man you referred to is more like the government of today.

    • @johnhenry9456
      @johnhenry9456 2 роки тому +11

      Can you remind me of the Bible scripture that references bigger barns. Thanks.

    • @du131
      @du131 2 роки тому +20

      @@johnhenry9456 It is the parable of the rich fool. Luke 12: 16- 20

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому +1

      I'm sorry for this. Hopefully you can do some sort of retirement fund.

    • @tboat8799
      @tboat8799 2 роки тому +12

      There's no corruption in the Mormon church that's why it's very rich

  • @brandysnaps9221
    @brandysnaps9221 2 роки тому +721

    “Best way to make money is to start your own church “, L.Ron Hubbard

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @lizajane1878
      @lizajane1878 2 роки тому +40

      Yup nailed it

    • @icanfartloud
      @icanfartloud 2 роки тому +11

      @@lizajane1878 umm, best way is start your own counterfeit printing press.

    • @luckylock4191
      @luckylock4191 2 роки тому

      @@icanfartloud no, that would be illegal. Creating a fake religion is legal

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood 2 роки тому +10

      ​@@icanfartloud I think he was speaking in a "lawfully" way.

  • @jeffs4483
    @jeffs4483 2 роки тому +525

    You know when money becomes a requirement to obtain salvation, you might be in a Cult.

    • @kindafreexp1415
      @kindafreexp1415 2 роки тому +30

      "Salvation only costs 10% of your gross income. Now that's a crazy deal!"

    • @jat2505
      @jat2505 Рік тому +13

      You know you might be too attached to money if it stops you from being more Christlike.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 Рік тому +32

      Never heard that salvation is attached to money, I think the LDS Church teaches that Salvation is available because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.

    • @EarlofSedgewick
      @EarlofSedgewick Рік тому +8

      ​@@raptman5425 so the idea of atonement and how it fits into our lives and can improve our capacity to act forthrightly is really beneficial when the person has internalized that idea for him or her self. Whatever mistakes we have made are already atoned, so there is no need to hang onto them or feel debilitating shame.
      As an atheist, I can see the value in that lesson, and it largely parallels effective psychotherapy. But it doesn't have to be historically real, I don't need to pretend there's an afterlife, and I don't need to pay a lifetime tax in order to learn this.
      It seems like the Mormon church is massively overcharging for pretty common wisdom that has underpinned Western ideals for 2000 years.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 Рік тому +22

      @@EarlofSedgewick did you miss the part about paying tithing is voluntary.

  • @randyscott3386
    @randyscott3386 9 місяців тому +13

    The Mormon Church was the first orginazation to arrive in New Orleans with first aid and emergency items such as food, clothes etc. right after hurrican Katrina .

    • @sarahsnowe
      @sarahsnowe 9 місяців тому +3

      Someone had to. Dubya's government didn't bother for days (might've had something to do with the race of the majority of the people affected--ya think?). Anyway, great way to get converts and all those extra tithes to buy a few emergency supplies and a whole lot of real estate.

    • @randyscott3386
      @randyscott3386 9 місяців тому

      @@sarahsnowe It's not that hard to make the right decisions in life . Just don't let the blind , brainwashed and subverted get in your way while you do it . This is America , most of em don't even know the meaning of the word subversion or what it means for an entire nation to be subverted . Even after the whole place was demoralized decades ago . How do you think all those Grandmothers wound up with dope habits , green hair , bankrupt and in prison ?

    • @brettwjensen
      @brettwjensen 28 днів тому

      None of that money comes from tithing. ALL charitable donations come from the Humanitarian Aid fund.

  • @TheRamnath007
    @TheRamnath007 2 роки тому +141

    Just walks the streets of Hamilton, Vancouver at 8 pm, you will know how much money is required for real charity. Homelessness, loneliness, drug addiction etc

    • @davisholman8149
      @davisholman8149 2 роки тому +38

      And the fact that horrible so called church has all that money, yet not willing to help needy Canadians, is sick.😡

    • @joannbowden6220
      @joannbowden6220 2 роки тому +20

      @@davisholman8149 happens all over the world sadly 🥲

    • @malkeitkaur3046
      @malkeitkaur3046 2 роки тому +8

      @@joannbowden6220 This is true happening every where all around the world.

    • @MsVictoria4ever
      @MsVictoria4ever 2 роки тому +3

      I was denied using a bathroom at a gas station after travelling home from seeing my ill son by your people here in Canada!

    • @robertanstey5185
      @robertanstey5185 2 роки тому +14

      @@MsVictoria4ever I’m sorry that this happened to you. It is against the law for an establishment which sells food or beverages to refuse use of a washroom. You should report this to the provincial ministry of transportation.

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 2 роки тому +124

    Its the oldest trick in the human book, selling nothing for profit. Remarkable.

    • @elisahamilton73
      @elisahamilton73 2 роки тому +8

      It really is

    • @Jeanikins
      @Jeanikins 2 роки тому

      Selling salvation for profit in the same way that the Catholic Church did. Martin Luther exposed that.

    • @pattykake7195
      @pattykake7195 2 роки тому

      Mormoncorp have sure perfected this scam….💰👍🏽💰.

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @kevinmorgan8534
      @kevinmorgan8534 2 роки тому

      And you'll be rewarded after you die! "There'll be pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye!"🤣

  • @bonniemcdermid7387
    @bonniemcdermid7387 2 роки тому +354

    My husband is from El Salvador, in Central America. We have known for years that the Mormon church is owner of one of the most valuable pieces of property there, a sprawling ranch on the shore of Lake Ilopango that is surrounded by high walls and is very secretive. You don't see the Church there open the gate to host activities for children or help the poor. The land just is in a state of holding. It would be worth many millions of dollars, that ranch, in my estimation.

    • @grandma27or8
      @grandma27or8 2 роки тому +32

      BonnieMcDermid. The church is really the first to respond to disasters in multiple areas of the world. The church is one of the few religions who believe in education for less developed countries and finance it for many. If you are blessed help others. The church emphasis is to love others and to help them.

    • @dpratt7777
      @dpratt7777 2 роки тому +22

      It is not wrong to invest in land and hold onto it. I wish I had more of it.

    • @heronimousbrapson863
      @heronimousbrapson863 2 роки тому +35

      @@dpratt7777 It is if the people who donated that money was going to charity.

    • @carsi7282
      @carsi7282 2 роки тому +12

      CIA visit often?

    • @sylviajonline
      @sylviajonline 2 роки тому +9

      Yes that is also all true, and I'm also a member. I love my church!

  • @gail9566
    @gail9566 Рік тому +80

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the largest single landowner in the United States, from huge ranching and orchard operations, to the SLC mall to luxury apartment buildings. When did God approve this?

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 8 місяців тому +5

      Um, when He made it in the first place?
      Tell us more about your theory of a god approving land holdings. Puh-leeze.

    • @jeron3966
      @jeron3966 7 місяців тому +3

      It’s not the largest. And the church built the mall to revitalize downtown and it worked. If we are to be a worldwide church then we need to be able to fund that.

    • @dominickjustave3558
      @dominickjustave3558 7 місяців тому +7

      Vatican says hold my beer

    • @violadagamba7555
      @violadagamba7555 7 місяців тому

      The current Mormon prophet talks directly to godď

    • @violadagamba7555
      @violadagamba7555 7 місяців тому

      What god would allow this fraud? There are none.

  • @karenishness1
    @karenishness1 2 роки тому +30

    Where did $1 Billion go? How about the same place that the original records of births , deaths, and marriages went that never were returned or copied..............

  • @mitchmo
    @mitchmo 2 роки тому +197

    I would love to see the leaders of this church sit face to face with Jesus and try to defend their actions.

    • @scrapshappen
      @scrapshappen 2 роки тому +20

      Oh I can just see how hard JC would be flipping those tables...

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @justme-dm7sb
      @justme-dm7sb 2 роки тому +6

      That will happen but it is not a spectators sport.

    • @RH33084
      @RH33084 2 роки тому +8

      Too bad Jesus didn't exist that's how he got you all

    • @shur7318
      @shur7318 2 роки тому +5

      That day will come for them

  • @susanmarr8833
    @susanmarr8833 2 роки тому +165

    Omg! As an ex Mormon. I am so glad to see the church be held to account. Perhaps a further expose on all its cult practices is in order.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 Рік тому +3

      As an ex Mormon, you don't know what you are talking about.

    • @NateDoss-e2l
      @NateDoss-e2l Рік тому +6

      @@raptman5425triggered much?

    • @SHARON.I
      @SHARON.I Рік тому +7

      ​@@raptman5425😂guess you don't believe all the scandals happening in Utah right now😂

    • @giselemathews1511
      @giselemathews1511 Рік тому

      You know the Church is truth. Don't deceive yourself. Comme home.

    • @SHARON.I
      @SHARON.I Рік тому +3

      @@giselemathews1511 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @MinorGodX
    @MinorGodX 2 роки тому +219

    This has eery similarities to Scientology schemes.

    • @dhix2388
      @dhix2388 2 роки тому +26

      schemes is a polite term

    • @davisholman8149
      @davisholman8149 2 роки тому +31

      Yes - all cults have similar characteristics. Scientology is quite a bit more ‘not typical’ - but from what I understand, Mormonism is bad enough.

    • @azarahwagner2749
      @azarahwagner2749 2 роки тому +15

      BINGO

    • @MinorGodX
      @MinorGodX 2 роки тому +16

      @@dhix2388 True. I should have said "crimes."

    • @Maryfs1
      @Maryfs1 2 роки тому +7

      Agreed.

  • @mark91345
    @mark91345 2 роки тому +59

    I would have liked to seen some unbiased tax attorneys explaining the rationale behind the church's activities based on Canada's current tax laws. It may be that the church is following Canada's laws, regardless of whether the interviewees approve or not. This news report makes plenty of allegations of corruption, but where are the indictments from the Canadian or US governments? It's been two years since the "whistleblower guy" did his expose in the US, but I have read about no Federal lawsuits, no indictments, no IRS anything. Or what about the Canada Revenue Agency?
    Also, I read that "the Mormon Church has been accused of engaging in significant tax evasion in Australia", but accused by WHOM? As far as I can tell, the accusations come from journalists, but NOT the Australian government.

    • @TheYgds
      @TheYgds 2 роки тому +6

      Thank you for pointing that out.

    • @jodsterf
      @jodsterf 2 роки тому +13

      i totally agree with you. and im disappointed with the investigative journalism that only told one biased side of a story without the proof or and evidence to support the inuendos

    • @joju1614
      @joju1614 2 роки тому +2

      Great insight

    • @deb9784
      @deb9784 2 роки тому +2

      Matthew 6:19-20
      Lay Up Treasures in Heaven
      19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal."
      It doesn't matter what the government says, right! But scripture is clear! Please consider this truth! 💜🙏💜

    • @craigdillabaugh710
      @craigdillabaugh710 2 роки тому +2

      @@jodsterf Well, in fairness this did include clips of church leader David Bednar speaking about church finances, while playing ominous music in the background.

  • @paulfranklin4276
    @paulfranklin4276 2 роки тому +108

    All cults need to be held accountable

    • @traditionalgirl5585
      @traditionalgirl5585 2 роки тому +4

      Does that include the Covid Cult?

    • @thepreacher5934
      @thepreacher5934 2 роки тому +4

      Starting with the alphabet soup cult

    • @vivalaleta
      @vivalaleta 2 роки тому +1

      How much do you know about the preposterous beginnings of the Mormon church? Religion is all nonsense but Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses are two of the silliest Xtian "sects".

    • @majafleur9646
      @majafleur9646 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, it's the JWs turn next.

    • @MaríaLalala-v3h
      @MaríaLalala-v3h 12 днів тому

      I am not active in church right now but I will affirm it is not a Cult and people respect that we based in conservative ideas and families, means a patriarchal family, a mother and their kids and that the way has to be

  • @MrTikalvideo
    @MrTikalvideo Рік тому +185

    I am from Central America, Guatemala, by the earthquake in 1976, the church built many houses all around the country. Plus food and another items. In Mexico for years almost every chapel in the 60s. and 70s Monday through Fridays was functioning as elementary schools!! I served as missionary in El Salvador for 2 years with other 26 friends how can't survive preaching for two years and the Church paid all the expenses. Many of my companions were able to graduate from BYU. Now I am in Florida surviving 9 hurricanes and see the massive help of the LDS Church to any individual without asking religious affiliation.

    • @maridonnasteinhaus355
      @maridonnasteinhaus355 Рік тому +13

      So True

    • @eagledice2008
      @eagledice2008 Рік тому +29

      It's a cult

    • @edpeaceofmind
      @edpeaceofmind Рік тому +20

      @@eagledice2008 Then all religions are cults by your definition.

    • @cevens2000
      @cevens2000 Рік тому +39

      @@edpeaceofmindIf I have to pay the church or get my children food, I’ll be getting my children food.

    • @marquitaarmstrong399
      @marquitaarmstrong399 10 місяців тому +15

      Okay glad it worked 4 u. You are 1 in a million

  • @theLampSA
    @theLampSA 2 роки тому +334

    Imagine how many millions of people could be helped if the church were really a church.

    • @elitestockpicks8212
      @elitestockpicks8212 2 роки тому +21

      I am not a mormon but I read the book of the Mormon and I know it is a testimony of God, just like many other holy writings.

    • @azarahwagner2749
      @azarahwagner2749 2 роки тому +16

      @@elitestockpicks8212
      Are you a Qanon member ?

    • @KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7
      @KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 2 роки тому +4

      The whole world would be better of if the Reorganized Church ended up being the most popular one.

    • @Jeanikins
      @Jeanikins 2 роки тому

      @@azarahwagner2749 No, she is a Mormon - just lying like the leaders do.

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

  • @polyglot6542
    @polyglot6542 2 роки тому +63

    A pastor of a church just bought a million dollar house and is my new neighbor. The other day I found out he has other 4 houses that are huge and expensive that he rents out. It surely pays to sell salvation!!

    • @jodsterf
      @jodsterf 2 роки тому +12

      the LDS church doesn't have any pastors

    • @billfarley9167
      @billfarley9167 2 роки тому

      The pastor is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is the sheeples that support him.

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 2 роки тому +2

      @@jodsterf comprehension issues dude?, he was saying a Pastor...not a Bishop, is his neighbor, and he is quite wealthy...

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 2 роки тому +2

      Meanwhile Obama
      Mansion In Washington DC
      Mansion on Martha’s Vineyard
      Mansion in Honolulu

    • @Thats_all_she_wrote_Dear_John
      @Thats_all_she_wrote_Dear_John 10 місяців тому +2

      The WORD states that many are in it for their own benefit.

  • @kamal8040
    @kamal8040 2 роки тому +97

    I desperately waited for this story.. u really have the guts to share these scams..

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @kevin6550694
      @kevin6550694 2 роки тому +1

      You desperately waited for this story....to prove the church wrong?
      What is the reason that you desperately waited?

    • @kamal8040
      @kamal8040 2 роки тому +6

      @@kevin6550694 because, couple of days ago I read the article in CBC News and I was curious to know about it.
      THAT'S WHY

    • @ingenerchik
      @ingenerchik 2 роки тому +1

      @@kamal8040 why are you so desperate?

    • @yvonnekinch7308
      @yvonnekinch7308 2 роки тому +1

      Kamalpreet, I agree he has guts and faith, I pray the Lord Jesus watch over all of them and their families.

  • @karldanger5150
    @karldanger5150 Рік тому +91

    The LDS church is in fact a business. Period. Anyone that argues that is a church member. Hypocritical? Yes.
    1. Owns shares in Coke yet frowns on drinking caffeine.
    2. Owns shares in Budweiser yet forbids drinking alcohol.
    3. Smoking, drinking, caffeine fueled drinks and chewing tobacco are all frowned upon YET selling it in mormon owned stores is ok, cause it's money.

    • @kerrybarrett7222
      @kerrybarrett7222 11 місяців тому

      Idiocy

    • @SHARON.I
      @SHARON.I 11 місяців тому

      Religion is hypocrisy

    • @uredskivid
      @uredskivid 10 місяців тому +3

      Well DUDE the money is prolly in a mutual fund that the church cant separate out .

    • @dominickjustave3558
      @dominickjustave3558 7 місяців тому

      U can drink soda special

  • @jonathanberner5501
    @jonathanberner5501 2 роки тому +92

    Ex-Mormon here. There’s definitely lots to be concerned with including their financial practices. I don’t know that the BYU thing is a hidden conspiracy though. The church has been pretty open about that as long as I’ve been alive

    • @jeffcampbell2710
      @jeffcampbell2710 2 роки тому +7

      If you notice, at 7:50 he says one hundred ten million. It's almost one hundred ten thousand. It says on thousands. So, I'm not sure how accurate this is

    • @sheilatuano9633
      @sheilatuano9633 2 роки тому +3

      Our society is different. Even without religion or politics mixed into it, we do not hug and kiss for public display. It is nothing even related to homophobia. We respect other people’s private space and public sensibilities and it may also be perhaps, a mix of cultural beliefs and practices. Overwhelming affections that may have sexual intimacy variety are best done in private, and the best to display it is only with your partner in a room where nobody needs to witness it. Patting the shoulders briefly if he or she is a family or friend, or shaking hands to congratulate, smile, even bow down or acknowledging with nodding of head, waving, will just do fine in public.

    • @sineadmurtagh943
      @sineadmurtagh943 2 роки тому +6

      @@sheilatuano9633 how deeply sad. You describe a society without normal human warmth and open interactions.
      The picture you paint is of a deeply and unnaturally repressed society - with behaviour that must have required decades at least to condition.
      What has been done over many generations scares me.

    • @tiredlocke
      @tiredlocke 2 роки тому +16

      @@jeffcampbell2710 Accounting reports regularly take off zeroes, presumably to make the numbers more readable. There would be a note on the page, indicating that the figures are shown in thousands (000s), and it should be read as if there are 3 more zeroes on it. This is pretty common and nothing nefarious.

    • @adaptercrash
      @adaptercrash 2 роки тому +1

      It's really the church for people with disability, the def, sign language and other severe autism the good kind

  • @Iamlearningtolove
    @Iamlearningtolove 2 роки тому +119

    Wait. A. Minute. The church built a mall? A MALL!?! Are you kidding me!?! Be in the world, not of it...not be in the world and worship the god of it. This is unacceptable. God bless the brave men who are doing what's right over what's easiest or most profitable.

    • @KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7
      @KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 2 роки тому +16

      It gets way worse when you look at what Kirton McConkie is doing and how much tithing goes there.
      The mall is surprising the least horrible thing about this.

    • @DM-ed9os
      @DM-ed9os 2 роки тому +17

      This story only just barely touches the surface of the real story of the church in the US. I see it every day in my profession.

    • @boysrus61
      @boysrus61 2 роки тому +9

      @@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 It use to be the Kirton McConkie and Poelman law firm. Have to search why the name changed.

    • @ChaChaDancin
      @ChaChaDancin 2 роки тому +10

      It’s just what Jesus would want. “Go sell all you have, build a luxury shopping mall, and come follow me.”

    • @Iamlearningtolove
      @Iamlearningtolove 2 роки тому +4

      @@ChaChaDancin I'm pretty sure I remember that verse too! 😆

  • @coopyduck6901
    @coopyduck6901 2 роки тому +352

    Would love to see The Fifth Estate do a deep dive into the US government and where the taxpayer money goes. Wouldn’t be just an hour video.

    • @79tazman
      @79tazman 2 роки тому +3

      I would love that on the Canadian government but since Trudeau and CBC are connected at the hip we would not get the truth anyway.

    • @icecreamladydriver1606
      @icecreamladydriver1606 2 роки тому +14

      Well said.

    • @PrincessGold1
      @PrincessGold1 2 роки тому

      Especially how much the 45th President creamed off for himself.

    • @coopyduck6901
      @coopyduck6901 2 роки тому +3

      @@PrincessGold1 45th gave his salary to charities. How about how much Sleepy Joe and his son was paid by other countries. Trump broke you ?

    • @Nephitejnf
      @Nephitejnf 2 роки тому +41

      How about doing it for the Canadian government, too. Do it for every government. And do it in depth.

  • @janedoe247
    @janedoe247 2 роки тому +149

    Now THIS is well done!!!! Good for those who stood up and did something!!!

    • @anathiqinisile6379
      @anathiqinisile6379 2 роки тому +10

      There is NO story here. BYU subsidizes not only members' education but non-members as well. BYU tuition has been rated as having the greatest value for money compared to any US University(See BYU Pathway and make comparisons). Fast offerings(not tithing) is used for humanitarian project(note humanitarian). I also don't get how a social moral issue(sexuality) is intermixed with financial issues as proving fraud. How does that prove fraud! There is unfortunately no story nor sincerity in your documentary.

    • @SHARON.I
      @SHARON.I Рік тому

      ​@@anathiqinisile6379😂😂😂

    • @LizaFergison
      @LizaFergison Рік тому

      @@anathiqinisile6379 You are conveniently ignoring the truth. Outside the U.S. the Mormon Church is haemorrhaging members. There is no longer a church where I live. I'm not surprised by the loss of members. The Church may have influence in the U.S., but it doesn't have any outside. It really is just a massive corporation that dabbles in religion.

    • @christinabeck9316
      @christinabeck9316 11 місяців тому

      @@anathiqinisile6379so, how much is tuition? Very curious.

    • @daniel-a-Lamanite
      @daniel-a-Lamanite 10 місяців тому

      ​@@christinabeck9316Someone answer this youg lady! I wet to BYU in the 70s, a semester was about $650 then.

  • @AwesomeAlexAdam
    @AwesomeAlexAdam 2 роки тому +14

    In the Last days "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be known."

    • @smuggythornton
      @smuggythornton 2 роки тому

      yep, that scripture isn't talking about the church as the funds are being used very judiciously. it is talking about the evils of the day and the Canadian government is part of the evil I speak of.

  • @Nkmozv
    @Nkmozv 2 роки тому +42

    This thing is very usual here in Brazil, and the population has no way to stop it. Even the government donate to the church’s for publicity of the candidate in question, so so sad…

  • @brycemoulton633
    @brycemoulton633 2 роки тому +94

    Very important piece of journalism. We demand financial transparency for any publicly-trade company. I expect the same for any organization exempt from taxes.

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому +3

      LDS Church voluntarily pays more tax than any other Church in North America. Take time to learn before pushing keys.

    • @a.walters123
      @a.walters123 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely. If you’re tax exempt, your entire financial history should be accessible to the public.

    • @71suns
      @71suns Рік тому +1

      ​@@raptman5425 According to whom?

    • @advocate7643
      @advocate7643 Рік тому

      @@raptman5425 Source that

  • @ck2503
    @ck2503 2 роки тому +126

    I feel bad for all these folks who fall for this scam. I mean tithing in general not this specific case.

    • @missrayelyn3045
      @missrayelyn3045 2 роки тому +1

      I'm sorry but I don't. There is a plethora of stories about churches scamming people for centuries. I think churches need to have their tax exempt status re-examined. Especially Mega Churches and churches that wade into politics.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому +3

      Get some Faith.

    • @richardholmes5676
      @richardholmes5676 2 роки тому +1

      Scam?

    • @devynselnes4282
      @devynselnes4282 Рік тому +3

      The money goes to good causes lmao

    • @tylerpond1229
      @tylerpond1229 Рік тому

      @@devynselnes4282 No it doesn’t. The church is a fraud.

  • @OneMamaToAnother
    @OneMamaToAnother 2 роки тому +63

    It's never been a secret that tithing money is used to supplement university education at BYU. I, as a Canadian, obtained my bachelor's from one of the smaller campuses and was often reminded that my low tuition was only due to the sacrifice and tithes of others. Tithing supplements the education of those from around the world who pay as little as $100 US per year to obtain a university degree (including housing, food, courses, and insurance).
    A large portion of the land owned is orchards, ranches, and farms in the US that provide food for the churches' welfare system. These items are shared with those both in Canada and around the world. I'm disappointed no mention of the bishops' storehouses in Canada not mentioned. Other land holdings included those for chapels, temples, university campuses, historical sites, family camping sites etc.

    • @KnuttyEntertainment
      @KnuttyEntertainment 2 роки тому +21

      Precisely. This video is clearly biased and misleading.

    • @billcassidy2894
      @billcassidy2894 2 роки тому +16

      Not Mormon, but one of my close friends growing up was, and it's exactly that; she had to pay the fraction of the cost of a typical out of state college which made it affordable to her. I'm not a supporter of the church, however, I feel the documentary missed an opportunity to explain that.

    • @thepkism
      @thepkism Рік тому

      Hun… the math still ain’t mathing. It’s tax evasion and fraud.

    • @jonirnmomba4130
      @jonirnmomba4130 8 місяців тому +2

      Once it’s filtered into BYU it can go anywhere without really having to report it further. Money laundering takes all shapes.

    • @gmac2327
      @gmac2327 8 місяців тому +4

      Not Mormon, but an Australian tax payer. I hope the Australian government strips this whack job outfit of its tax deductible status sooner rather than later. Believe whatever bullshit you want, but I don’t want to help pay for it.

  • @ahorsenamedcelty9505
    @ahorsenamedcelty9505 2 роки тому +283

    When I was a kid I often went hungry because my mom paid tithing. The church would "help" us by giving us boxes of canned beans and corn that expired five years earlier.

  • @MsCaterific
    @MsCaterific 2 роки тому +20

    The corruptions are So.Much.More! then just money.

  • @piva1358
    @piva1358 2 роки тому +60

    Thithing is optional always! If your church says otherwise, run 🏃‍♂️

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому +1

      Truth.

    • @kevinmorgan8534
      @kevinmorgan8534 2 роки тому

      It's an Old Testament law that doesn't apply to Christians.

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому

      @@kevinmorgan8534 I don't fully understand traditional Christianity. Can you explain, please?

    • @kudamapfumo9316
      @kudamapfumo9316 2 роки тому +5

      We are not under the law but under Christ . In Christ Jesus living in grace in the new testament there is no tithe. Paul Peter never took tithes. The only giving spoken of if from a willing cheerful heart offering from your heart.

    • @piva1358
      @piva1358 Рік тому

      @@kudamapfumo9316 excellent explanation .

  • @sloopy5191
    @sloopy5191 Рік тому +67

    Remove tax exempt status from ALL churches/cults. Edit: Leaving this cult was the smartest/best thing I've ever done for myself. No regrets here!

    • @gregmckenzie4315
      @gregmckenzie4315 Рік тому +2

      We need a true separation between church and state. Tax-exempt status should not be given to any church (cult) that advocates and teaches doctrines that have no basis in fact or reality. We should defund all of these institutions by making them pay the same taxes as any other corporation. This is important at this point in time because we are facing a mass extinction event that is, in large part, the result of doctrines that define human beings as a privileged species that is above all other species and which is destined to rule, and dominate all other life forms. This view forms the basis of our culture and it is the product of predatory religious practices that are destroying the ecology upon which all of us depend.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 Рік тому

      No, that would not be just nor right!
      Yes, remove the tax exemption from the church as in this video!
      You ought not paint all church denominations with the same brush!
      Remember, the accountant said he experienced the transparency in the other churches’ denominations accounting!? But not in the Mormon Church!
      My experience has been the complete budget transparency and much of the money went to the humanitarian causes!
      Many small churches barely have enough money to pay their basic bills!

    • @purrington666
      @purrington666 6 місяців тому

      Great Idea...Better to let the Government squander the money instead.

  • @Iamlearningtolove
    @Iamlearningtolove 2 роки тому +19

    And that's just the numbers we know about.

  • @TwoTreesVisuals
    @TwoTreesVisuals 2 роки тому +18

    This idea that the church is taking away from governments is hilarious. Also the church needs to start paying taxes this is ridiculous. I’d love for my money back but I also acknowledge that I volunteered my money, even though I was lied to about the church’s truth claims. That money is long gone.

    • @PetePuebla
      @PetePuebla Місяць тому

      Three words: Class Action Lawsuit

  • @birdie2010
    @birdie2010 2 роки тому +34

    Australia version of 60 minutes is doing a similar expose too recently

    • @boysrus61
      @boysrus61 2 роки тому +3

      I don't think it has aired yet. This expose showed a clip from it tho.

    • @slconley
      @slconley 2 роки тому

      We need more countries to do these exposes! The LDS church is a corporation that dabbles in religion.

  • @geraldinesera8915
    @geraldinesera8915 15 днів тому

    Thank you for this forthright and honest program. I'm a 73 yr old retired Mormon journalist and development officer. I joined the church at 13 YRS of age, and have fulfilled EVERY LDS BENCHMARK OF PARTICIPATION AND SERVICE, including as a tithe payer.
    I have become inactive from the church in the past 4 yrs.
    I witnessed on tithing slips the church breaking Canadian DONOR laws... and acted limitedly to withdraw from tithe paying. I make donations now to worthy purposes in my community.
    A rich man once approached Christ seeking to become a close follower.
    Christ said, "sell all thou hast and give to the poor, and come follow me..." the rich man left sadly.
    I've

  • @zarinakhan592
    @zarinakhan592 2 роки тому +11

    With C$1 billion Mormon Church could have built a Brigham Young University campus in Canada. Why send Canadian donations/tithe to Utah, USA ?

  • @rafaliataracena2577
    @rafaliataracena2577 2 роки тому +104

    I feel you, I was brought up Catholic until after one Prist started asking for donations $200/$400 and that is when I started rethinking that religion.

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому +6

      That's a lot to ask for.

    • @billybravo417
      @billybravo417 2 роки тому +9

      Just like anything else,GOOD PRIEST,BAD PRIEST,USE COMMON SENSE WHAT GOD GAVE US,WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING IT'S IN EVERY FAITH

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому +5

      You should join the LDS Church. Maybe find some Happiness.

    • @rsmyth75
      @rsmyth75 2 роки тому +12

      @@raptman5425 lol haha 😂

    • @xenuburger7924
      @xenuburger7924 2 роки тому +7

      The Mormon church asks for 50x that.

  • @lyngruen8607
    @lyngruen8607 2 роки тому +18

    Seems there is MUCH CORRUPTION in ALL RELIGIONS.... THE CHURCH HAS FAILED....FAILED THE CONGREGATIONS AND GOD....

    • @scorp10fl53
      @scorp10fl53 2 роки тому

      Because there is no god.
      No religion ever has produced any evidence whatsoever as to the existence of a metaphysical sky daddy!

  • @thatsjustmytake
    @thatsjustmytake 2 роки тому +2

    Point#8 30:35 There is no church in the world that forces its members to give tithing or else. You give money became you want to, you go to church because you want to, you help people in the street became you want to. To this man and anyone who donates money and want a tax write off on your taxes, then you are not really doing the donation for the right reason. The widow's mite in the Bible. I don't think that she said, hey! want a tax write off document for my donation. Or when Judas betrayed Jesus, she said what a false of a church I want my money back. If anyone is going to do an act of charity towards another, do it became it's in your heart without thinking first on writing it off on your taxes. This man is bitter.

  • @josephmorgan3058
    @josephmorgan3058 2 роки тому +20

    Those donations for the poor are given IN ADDITION to the tithes. My family's donations were 17% of GROSS.

    • @kindafreexp1415
      @kindafreexp1415 2 роки тому +5

      That's not even getting into the fact that tithe was collected by coercion, literally threatening to lock you out of temple access (and thus ordinances vital for one's salvation) if one did not do everything in their power to pay at _least_ 10% of gross income.

  • @jakemoeller7850
    @jakemoeller7850 2 роки тому +39

    LDS is certainly a corporation...wrapped in a cloak of deceit.

    • @jeffs4483
      @jeffs4483 2 роки тому +9

      Latter Day Swindle

  • @freddytang2128
    @freddytang2128 2 роки тому +13

    Dont want to judge or critique LDS" theology. But I feel like any religion that says you should pay your tithe before feeding your family, should raise massive red flags. Cant imagine any god want people to starve in order to pay tithe

    • @jodsterf
      @jodsterf 2 роки тому +1

      the lds church would never do that. but if you need food or help with your rent and bills, you have to tell your bishop so he can help you, you can't just complain that you paid tithing and then couldnt feed your kids because you didn't let your bishop know.

    • @freddytang2128
      @freddytang2128 2 роки тому +1

      @@jodsterf I’m literally quoting what a LDS pastor/priest said in this documentary

    • @jodsterf
      @jodsterf 2 роки тому

      Exactly… so makes you question the validity of this journalist

  • @Vikingdescendent
    @Vikingdescendent 5 місяців тому +5

    Wherever there's money, there's corruption. It never fails!!

  • @Sarahyangtoronto
    @Sarahyangtoronto 2 роки тому +33

    We need that tax money back. This is crazy.

  • @Natalieneptune469
    @Natalieneptune469 2 роки тому +168

    Transfer of wealth usually occur during recession, so the more stocks drop, the more I buy, in the meanwhile I'm just focused on making better investments and earning more as recession fear increases, apparently there are strategies to 3x gains in this present market because I read of someone that pulled a profit of $350k within 6months, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?

    • @Alejandracamacho357
      @Alejandracamacho357 2 роки тому +1

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    • @Robertgriffinne
      @Robertgriffinne 2 роки тому +3

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    • @marianparker7502
      @marianparker7502 2 роки тому +1

      @@Robertgriffinne

    • @Robertgriffinne
      @Robertgriffinne 2 роки тому +4

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    • @marianparker7502
      @marianparker7502 2 роки тому +1

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  • @Janewomanpower
    @Janewomanpower 2 роки тому +175

    Another great one Fifth! I hope we see a follow up of this one! Greed permeates these big corporations. churches is one of the biggest of this greed.

    • @blizzard2oo
      @blizzard2oo 2 роки тому

      The worst collection of lies and yellow journalism imaginable. All nothing more than a littany of lies from CBC

    • @crystalyn2855
      @crystalyn2855 2 роки тому +1

      Don't forget politics like BLM and LGBTQ plus our government.

    • @Janewomanpower
      @Janewomanpower 2 роки тому +2

      @@crystalyn2855 can you elaborate? I'm not certain what angle you are coming from. thank you.

    • @theoneandonlyroelle
      @theoneandonlyroelle 2 роки тому

      @@Janewomanpower don’t hold your breath

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds like you have been hurt. Sorry

  • @albertito77
    @albertito77 7 місяців тому +1

    10:29 tax breaks “cost” the Canadian Treasury?? Woah there buddy! Reducing the tax you pay by any legal means possible is laudable and to be encouraged. Money you _dont_ pay in tax isn’t theft.

  • @colette6984
    @colette6984 2 роки тому +25

    Using landholding as a tax-exempt loophole on mass scale reminds me of what scientology is doing.

  • @Adam-ke6gg
    @Adam-ke6gg 2 роки тому +9

    Its God that asks you to tithe, if the church miss uses it then its on them. I'm not of this church but know God asks us to tithe to help others. Mate look at it as you are doing as God asks, and be reasured you have done the right thing

  • @lisamaria661
    @lisamaria661 2 роки тому +34

    You should make a video on the Vatican, I would love to see it!

    • @luisfelix7989
      @luisfelix7989 2 роки тому

      Mmmhh,, catholic church is not considered wealthy..

    • @sean.butterworth
      @sean.butterworth 2 роки тому +4

      That would be a multi-season series

    • @KnowledgeFinder-sfldsy47
      @KnowledgeFinder-sfldsy47 9 місяців тому

      It would have to be done in episodes & would have sequels after sequels which is watch but I'm not build ing my hopes up cos the pope isn't gonna show his ins and outs?😎 I remember the last Vatican banker to be found hung on Blackfriars bridge in London?
      Rob
      Yorkshire,uk.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @THELOVEOFMYLIFE89
    @THELOVEOFMYLIFE89 Рік тому +2

    Why was the comments from your last video turned off

  • @hopejoyfaith1342
    @hopejoyfaith1342 2 роки тому +22

    Hopefully people wake up and stop the donations to the cash cow

    • @RealLadyG
      @RealLadyG 2 роки тому +3

      Call it whatever derogatory disparaging name you want. The donations will never end because it is a commandment and God guides his church to preach to every kindred, nation and tongue. He is the one that provides the donations through the generous faith giving of his obedient children. God blesses his true church. Only the haters will continue to hate and one day that will stop.

    • @7476318
      @7476318 2 роки тому

      @@RealLadyG
      It’s funny, just a few years ago crazies like you would have flooded the comment section with culty remarks like yours. Now look around, you’re almost all alone. The joke is on you.

  • @antoniodefreitas2957
    @antoniodefreitas2957 2 роки тому +34

    All churchs must pay tax. Its the only way to avoid fraud.

    • @dpratt7777
      @dpratt7777 2 роки тому +7

      It is not fraud when you obey the law.

    • @gtdetan
      @gtdetan 2 роки тому

      Taxation is theft.

    • @ladellcrookston1981
      @ladellcrookston1981 11 місяців тому +1

      You have made government your god haven't you?

    • @carteravery6604
      @carteravery6604 10 місяців тому +1

      Why would we want the government to have more money instead of churches?

  • @jeffs4483
    @jeffs4483 2 роки тому +10

    Jesus himself warned us about false religions and false prophets such as the LDS.

  • @Walcingham509
    @Walcingham509 Рік тому +6

    First class video.. very well done!

  • @kmacintosh1448
    @kmacintosh1448 2 роки тому +42

    I don't understand how ppl can't use discernment when listening to church mandates and preaching about money. This has always been a red flag for me. I've had many Mormons and JW come to my door and I would listen but would never fall for their misguided beliefs.

    • @savannahsmiles1797
      @savannahsmiles1797 2 роки тому

      there are just as many misguided ministries, evangelists, etc. But the Mormons are very secretive about their corporation being what is important.

    • @yfzjoe
      @yfzjoe Рік тому

      JWs don't make anyone tithe or donate. Everything with them is voluntary without the guilt trips.

    • @ldub288
      @ldub288 11 місяців тому +3

      @@yfzjoe as a former JW you are so very wrong..judgment and shaming is their entire gig. you don't follow the rules, you're shunned by everyone you know. you lose your friends and family.
      i'm not the only one, this is common knowledge👈

  • @terrisewell4729
    @terrisewell4729 2 роки тому +144

    Thanks the fifth Estate for the amazing information, but we got to put our effort and money into things that are more profitable to us.

    • @limburgerfarrell3499
      @limburgerfarrell3499 2 роки тому +5

      Starting early is the best way of getting ahead to build wealth, invest ting remains a priority. I learnt from my last year's experience, i am able to build a suitable life because I invest ted early ahead this time.

    • @Soboj-oy8me
      @Soboj-oy8me 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah invest ment is the key to sustaining your financial longevity but venturing into any legi timate invest tment without a proper guidance of an ex pert can lead to greater loss too

    • @theresathomas3849
      @theresathomas3849 2 роки тому

      exactly! That's my main concern and what kind of invest ment can someone do with this increase economy turndown

    • @adasohas
      @adasohas 2 роки тому +8

      you're right Fo rex tra ding is surely a lucrative way to invest whether you want growth, leverage, stable income or something in between.

    • @JiwanWill
      @JiwanWill 2 роки тому +8

      yeah for sure, honestly I made 62,800 dollars within few days of tra ding with Bit coin

  • @MacEliot
    @MacEliot 2 роки тому +38

    All these brands of Christianity are just deceiving people.

  • @dougrobertson7862
    @dougrobertson7862 2 роки тому +43

    From 1986 to 2019, I served in five bishoprics and two stake presidencies in Saskatchewan. Like any congregation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one of our key responsibilities was to care for those in need. We were not perfect, but I was impressed with the leaders' and members' effectiveness. We used a structured and principled approach to: 1) serve and minister to individuals, families, and communities (including those who are not of our faith), 2) share our personal and Church resources with those in need, and 3) help others become self-reliant through education, employment, and managing their personal finances. We did our best to fulfill this complex, sensitive, and nuanced work and the Lord blessed us to help many people.

    • @danawinsor1380
      @danawinsor1380 2 роки тому +11

      Doug Robertson . . . I'm glad you posted your comment. I believe you and many of your fellow LDS church members are sincere and doing good for others.

    • @KarlMarxFanClub
      @KarlMarxFanClub 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah. But your top brass run it like a business.

    • @pamelaturner3773
      @pamelaturner3773 2 роки тому +2

      @@danawinsor1380 I agree. Only takes a couple of bad seeds at the top to ruin the reputation of an organization or group. Diligence to protect the structure and reputation can only be protected if questions can be answered.

    • @steve75112
      @steve75112 Рік тому

      cultist

    • @AidaShawJ.D.
      @AidaShawJ.D. 8 місяців тому +2

      @@steve75112why be rude? He’s sharing his experience, which sounds wonderful. Isn’t that what we want for our fellow humans?

  • @rodolforodriguez2592
    @rodolforodriguez2592 2 роки тому +10

    We're at that transition point where humans are getting tired of bs religions of all kinds.

  • @michaelj3414
    @michaelj3414 2 роки тому +23

    "I believe the church built an empire by deceiving people."
    LOL This man just described all religions.

  • @beyourself2444
    @beyourself2444 2 роки тому +45

    As a non Mormon Christian I believe tithing is important if you can afford to but in tough times you cannot give money away and remain hungry…

    • @thepreacher5934
      @thepreacher5934 2 роки тому +1

      O ye, of little faith

    • @ernaniartates7709
      @ernaniartates7709 2 роки тому +5

      Christ did not teach Tithing , your not bound to obey it ,it was meant for the Israelites.That law was chaanged when Christ came.

    • @del5629
      @del5629 2 роки тому +2

      You are ask to tithe 10% , and if you need help you can go to the bishop and ask for help...we are taught to be self sufficient, thrust worthy, and do good to out fellow man...I’ve learned more from the teaching of the church than any formal education! It’s well worth it!

    • @MrNirom1
      @MrNirom1 2 роки тому

      @@ernaniartates7709 True... Until the Lord came back and told his people where he had just started one little Church in Fayette, NY... in 1830 that he would tithe his people. And now it is a world wide church that is just about everywhere.

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому +1

      God didn't say, "pay tithing when you can afford to".

  • @MeToo-py1tq
    @MeToo-py1tq Рік тому +57

    This is a freaking great documentary it is thorough concise and easy to follow! Good stuff !

    • @cindybates68
      @cindybates68 Рік тому

      bot

    • @BGPOND30
      @BGPOND30 Рік тому +2

      but we have known this for many many years its not no secret, just headhunters trying to make a name anyway it was all resolved and explained by the church and the governments.

    • @MeToo-py1tq
      @MeToo-py1tq Рік тому

      @@BGPOND30
      Oh you mean no independent thinking required "When church leaders have spoken the thinking had already been done for you" okay got it! 😉

    • @SHARON.I
      @SHARON.I 11 місяців тому

      @@MeToo-py1tq yep exactly! Follow the leader you don't have to think for yourself

    • @JHNative
      @JHNative 11 місяців тому +3

      It's an anti-religion hit piece. It's highly one sided and not balanced and objective.

  • @markramkhelawan1580
    @markramkhelawan1580 2 роки тому +11

    Cbc gets a billion dollar taxpayer handout every year and the taxpayer doesn't have a choice. When are you going to do a story on that ?

    • @rthorne1985
      @rthorne1985 2 роки тому +1

      Yes!!! We need a story on why we are funding news stations!

  • @CHunt-cz1ek
    @CHunt-cz1ek 2 роки тому +50

    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
    ― Upton Sinclair

    • @colinjensen
      @colinjensen 2 роки тому

      How is that relevant here? No one is alleging anyone has a salary based on these donations. If you're not aware, said church has no local employees, and not one person of the 18M is getting wealthy at all off it. So that quote really doesn't apply here, unless you're talking about the salaries of the "reporters" who made up the story.

  • @solomoncasilen841
    @solomoncasilen841 2 роки тому +21

    I am a member of the church and I've seen and heard a lot of different types of stories against the church. Nothing change since the beginning of the church in 1820. nothing change from the time of Jesus Christ from old testament.
    All i can say is; i will never forget my private prayers that are privately answered through unexpected feeling and power that i could never forget and deny that my faith in christ is real
    The gospel of Christ is offered to everyone but apparently not for everyone.

    • @alicewongham3541
      @alicewongham3541 2 роки тому +8

      THANK YOU!!! Finally a comment from a faithful disciple of Jesus Christ. I can only testify of the blessing from paying my tithing. So true about Gospel offered to everyone but not everyone will be ready and willing to accept it.

    • @samsteel2643
      @samsteel2643 2 роки тому +4

      Nothing's changed since the war in heaven. It's still going.

    • @hokehinson5987
      @hokehinson5987 2 роки тому

      Those testimony meeting are just peer pressure brain washing each other once a month. Used to observe how so many people struggled to met the standard while humiliating themselves trying to fit in with the herd. One of the most striking differences was just how indoctrinated the mormons west of the Mississippi were as compared to other regions....self generating illusion heavy in the rockies....

    • @EyibioEffiong-bv8bg
      @EyibioEffiong-bv8bg Місяць тому

      Thanks for sharing

  • @creativecrizzma111
    @creativecrizzma111 Рік тому +5

    60,000 acres in Canada? Seriously, I think it would be more. Need to look at the ranches in the US too, and how their hired help are treated financially.

  • @Noname-cn4ly
    @Noname-cn4ly 2 роки тому +22

    Most charities in the United States, if investigated, would uncover SOME type of crooked activity….that would shock the people……(Starting with the Goodwill industries) 😡

    • @grownjohnboy
      @grownjohnboy 2 роки тому

      Yeah sure. Whatabout defence opens you up to much criticism.

    • @maddexq9107
      @maddexq9107 2 роки тому +2

      Surely you are not suggesting that because other charities do fraudulent things, “crooked activities” as you say, that the LDS church should not be held accountable for their fraud?

    • @grownjohnboy
      @grownjohnboy 2 роки тому

      @@maddexq9107 Absitively and posolutely inclined that way. The entire jaheeeeeeeesusssss movement has become a smarmy monetized industry. Time to open their books.

  • @ricdavid7476
    @ricdavid7476 2 роки тому +16

    15 billion is not a particularly large property portfolio there must be many organisations that have bigger ones. I wonder what the Roman Catholic church portfolio is worth . For this reason I take what this video says with a pinch of salt.

    • @kevin6550694
      @kevin6550694 2 роки тому +4

      And the IRS did not comment, nothing proven to be wrong so far.

    • @micass3561
      @micass3561 Рік тому

      Google search says Catholic Church’s property portfolio is similar to Mormons. Although-23.0% are Catholics, 1.8% are Mormons.

  • @tawnyavandamme5471
    @tawnyavandamme5471 2 роки тому +70

    I LOVE reports such as this ! Mind blowing 😮

  • @bobbenjy6426
    @bobbenjy6426 2 роки тому +82

    Excellent reporting and journalism. Bravo.

  • @atphoenix2020
    @atphoenix2020 2 роки тому +11

    We have all been duped. No more for me.

  • @chriscoyle7506
    @chriscoyle7506 2 роки тому +20

    Why don't you investigate the Canadian federal government with such vigor? Hmm?

  • @localjess838
    @localjess838 2 роки тому +34

    It's happening everywhere unfortunately.
    Nonprofits, charities etc

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

  • @lorellifenstad7451
    @lorellifenstad7451 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Fifth Estate for educating us about the evil doing in this Mormon church.

  • @brendanwood1540
    @brendanwood1540 2 роки тому +15

    Considering that Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the church of Scientology, evangelism, and the largest military industrial complex in the world all come from the United States I kinda doubt that the Mormon church is the single wealthiest land owner.

    • @hokehinson5987
      @hokehinson5987 2 роки тому

      That's probably in regards to a tax free cult being the single largest wealthiest land owner...

  • @estherrodriguez546
    @estherrodriguez546 2 роки тому +121

    I believe in the law of tithing, however, I believe that I can give it directly to the most needy, not necessarily to the Mormon church. By doing so, I can readily see where my tithing money is going more effectively and honestly 🤷🏻‍♀️😇🙏🏽

    • @johnhenry9456
      @johnhenry9456 2 роки тому +3

      And that is totally your choice.

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому +2

      Another name is called charities. Charities are amazing.

    • @Phi1Productions
      @Phi1Productions 2 роки тому

      @@HermicraftAddict Did you know that the so-called charities are also corrupt? As long as you let people in charge, trouble begins.

    • @HermicraftAddict
      @HermicraftAddict 2 роки тому +2

      @@Phi1Productions Certain ones are equally corrupt (I won't name the top ones off my head) However, good ones like The Food Bank actually help people who are hungry without all the hoops.

    • @colinjensen
      @colinjensen 2 роки тому

      @@HermicraftAddict To be clear, there is no corruption being alleged in this article.

  • @stephenlamarina9409
    @stephenlamarina9409 2 роки тому +9

    Why is there never any action taken to stop this. Who is protecting them. Makes you wonder. Not much justice here.

    • @thepreacher5934
      @thepreacher5934 2 роки тому

      Protecting them from what? Unsubstantiated claims?

    • @jeffs4483
      @jeffs4483 2 роки тому +3

      The LDS corporation cleverly hides behind the guarantee of religious freedom.

    • @kindafreexp1415
      @kindafreexp1415 2 роки тому +1

      When you have enough wealth and have a private law firm at your beck-and-call you're more than capable of protecting yourself from investigation and punishment.

  • @mikestewart4752
    @mikestewart4752 Рік тому +3

    I watched this when it was first released… any updates planned?

  • @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
    @pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 2 роки тому +16

    Who is watching this while wearing their magic underwear? 🙋🏻‍♂

    • @six1nyne
      @six1nyne 2 роки тому +2

      🙋‍♂️

    • @MsCaterific
      @MsCaterific 2 роки тому +3

      I got rid of mine a little while back.

  • @marsolinantonio8966
    @marsolinantonio8966 2 роки тому +21

    I’m a member of another Church. We voluntarily give 10% of our tithes. We also give faith promise offering (over and beyond our tithes).
    But we are independent Church. The members know exactly where the money go. We vote when the expense goes over $2000.
    We don’t give salary to our Preacher. He’s a missionary, and he gets his support from Churches in the US.
    We believe the Church’s money is the Lord’s, and we have to be a good steward of it.

    • @kathleenrobinson1594
      @kathleenrobinson1594 2 роки тому +1

      May I ask you why it’s 10% ??? Roman Catholic here. We didn’t have to give a percentage but you still needed to contribute. We all know now where most of that money went. No church should be asking for any monies.

    • @ascendantindigo271
      @ascendantindigo271 2 роки тому +1

      Religion brings in Trillions annually because people think God is somewhere outside of themselves. Once the lie is believed, we are easily deceived... That unholy "Flavian" Bible only serves the "BA'AL & Baphomet" campaigns. Christ provides he doesn't take from his flock.

    • @marsolinantonio8966
      @marsolinantonio8966 2 роки тому +3

      @@kathleenrobinson1594 it’s actually what the Bible says. But God is commanding us also not to give out of necessity and grudgingly, and that we should cheerfully give.

    • @katigrace25
      @katigrace25 2 роки тому +6

      Does the lord need 39 billion dollars? No, he does not.

    • @ascendantindigo271
      @ascendantindigo271 2 роки тому +2

      @@marsolinantonio8966 And "who" wrote that Bible ? Men inspired by God ? I thought the only way to God is threw believing Jesus was tortured and murdered. So now we can wear our torment like it's a badge of honor... I've met The "Holy Tetrahedron" personally.

  • @cherylsibson2529
    @cherylsibson2529 Рік тому +26

    Props to those that researched and acknowledged that the Canadian healthcare system was affected by this. What about churches on Maui?

  • @tonysmer
    @tonysmer 2 роки тому +11

    Excellent start. A missing component of this topic is the major expansion of the Mormon Church in Asia and SE. Asian countries. E.g. Samoa, Fiji, Cambodia,

    • @willylao5430
      @willylao5430 10 місяців тому

      Samoa & Fiji are Pacific countries, not Southeast Asian.

  • @marlenemcmillan8891
    @marlenemcmillan8891 2 роки тому +18

    It's quite shocking how people expect churches and religion to make them happy...listen to your own self do not follow other beliefs

    • @lauraarcher1730
      @lauraarcher1730 2 роки тому +2

      And where does that get you?

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @marlenemcmillan8891
      @marlenemcmillan8891 2 роки тому +2

      @@egoldthorp1 I don't follow any organization or religion...I believe in myself..

    • @burntearth85
      @burntearth85 2 роки тому

      @@lauraarcher1730 a happy life.

  • @joannwolf4980
    @joannwolf4980 2 роки тому +6

    This comes up periodically but nothing ever comes of it.

  • @dl6066
    @dl6066 6 місяців тому +2

    I am glad and thankful for our church leaders, I wish our government and even the business leaders would follow LDS Church leaders examples. These men are good honorable men.

  • @carichaos1651
    @carichaos1651 2 роки тому +7

    Mormons will be found out just like them all! GOOD WORK!!!

  • @johnsax1445
    @johnsax1445 2 роки тому +12

    A Massive Corporation which happens to own aChurch (for tax reasons, you know 😊)

  • @mr_ekshun
    @mr_ekshun 2 роки тому +13

    As an exmormon, for some reason white shirts and ties are triggering to me. Just the sight of them, regardless of context, sends waves of incredibly palpable stress and anxiety through my whole body.

    • @thepreacher5934
      @thepreacher5934 2 роки тому

      Reprobate

    • @samsteel2643
      @samsteel2643 2 роки тому +2

      A calling to repentance perhaps and to come back to the fold. We all make mistakes

    • @samsteel2643
      @samsteel2643 2 роки тому

      @@thepreacher5934 Who? You?

  • @janicem4382
    @janicem4382 10 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for airing this program.

  • @TheRamnath007
    @TheRamnath007 2 роки тому +33

    One cannot have rich looking church if money is actually used for charity

    • @Janewomanpower
      @Janewomanpower 2 роки тому +3

      I so agree! The irony staring right in our faces!

    • @topesportsgaming6572
      @topesportsgaming6572 28 днів тому

      Tithing is different from offerings. The ones used for building and maintaining these edifices are thru tithing, while the ones used for charity are from offerings. Charity first of its members and also non-memebers alike. The Church is one of the largest orgs that has humanitarian efforts anywhere else. You all just don't know

    • @TheRamnath007
      @TheRamnath007 27 днів тому

      @@topesportsgaming6572 Isnt it the talk of the ego when one says " you ALL doesnt know" that automatically implies I alone knows and my way is the only Truth? Yes church does charity thats right, but true charity is one without expectations. When the same church involves in various conversion activities across the globe, destroys local culture and religion, one cannot call it as charity anymore.

    • @topesportsgaming6572
      @topesportsgaming6572 27 днів тому

      @@TheRamnath007 how extensive is your knowledge of the Church humanitarian aid and charity so that my thoughts of "you just don't know" can be refuted? Pls tell me.

  • @theresewheeler1498
    @theresewheeler1498 2 роки тому +29

    Wow how truthful it is . Paying tithing for these leaders in church, I stop paying my tithing as well .. your kids will be save and you are right to do the good things

    • @egoldthorp1
      @egoldthorp1 2 роки тому

      I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.

    • @jodsterf
      @jodsterf 2 роки тому +2

      church leaders don't get paid. its volunteer... service to others

    • @raptman5425
      @raptman5425 2 роки тому

      Get some Faith, it's free.

  • @kenjimrankin7485
    @kenjimrankin7485 2 роки тому +8

    Wow this is so eye opening,

  • @mikeb.7381
    @mikeb.7381 Рік тому +10

    Should be labelled as a terrorist organization.

  • @donbagley2322
    @donbagley2322 2 роки тому +21

    I grew up under the yoke of this monster.