I have the old formulation 78% and new formulation 82%. Not only is the menthol note gone from the open in 82% it is crazy weak i can barely smell it. The 78% old formulation was a projection monster I would get compliments left and right but the new formulation is almost just a skin scent. I wish I knew this before buying the new bottle.
I have a newer batch of Layton and Carlisle. Both are as potent and amazing as they’ve always been. I’m fairly certain if they didn’t have the % on the bottle,…no one would notice a dang thing.
No there's definitely a performance difference I have both carlise and layton bottles from 2020 and the latest reform in 2021 and its missing something like the guy in the video said and it just doesn't last I get 6-8 hours with the new batches and 10 plus hours with the old
@@DarkKnight--22 slight performance difference, 82 doesn’t last as long but the 82 smells better in my opinion because it got rid of the menthol note, i wasn’t the biggest fan of the original for some reason but it grew on me and then i smelled this batch and i absolutely love it
Great video, absolutely on point. Its true that EU banned Lilial which led manufacturers rework their fragrances. In modern perfumery, especially at big companies like Firmenich, there are alternative ingredients ready so no need to panic 🙃
@@razvanyke You are right! This is a general problem of the industry :) All of them want to preserve the ratio of extremely high margin and increase their prices over time.
The first time I tried Layton about 2 years ago from a sample decant, it blew my mind. It lasted 14 hours and had this addictive and very appealing smell. Finally bought a bottle last month and it just doesn’t have the same effect on me. Maybe it’s because I’m used to the smell and it’s not new anymore. But I’m pretty convinced the formula has changed quite a bit. Mine smells more floral, fresh clothing kind of smell on the opening. The one I tried years ago had this rich apple vanilla kind of smell that was addictive. I know it’s not fake because I bought it from selfridges but it’s so disappointing.
Friend of mine recently bought one of the new bottles with 82% and 7-digit batch code, and he said that he immediately noticed a drop in performance. We decided to experiment - he brought it to work, applied it to his wrist and sure enough, no more than 3 hours later I could barely smell it on him. He works in a different department so it's not like we are next to each other the whole day. The scent is still great, but that performance is not something I would ever spend that kind of money on.
This is great to know! I am just looking into getting PDM Layton as my first fragrance and I was worried it wouldn't be as nice as the older formulation that I had heard so much about, but I am relieved that it is not so different😅
I have both but I rather go for the new reformulation over the old. When I got 2016 it has a minty smell in the opening. The vanilla smell was real thick and heavy. Good for the cold weather for me. The new batch is more versatile and can use on any occasion. The performance is good.
That’s a great description mate. I agree completely. I personally prefer the older batches because I love the menthol and thick vanilla - but I also agree the newer batches are more versatile
Have the 82% and it sucks. 78% had this freshness and airyness to it that this one doesn't have. 82% is flat and it doesn't push off my skin and doesn't last. I'm disappointed
I totally understand what you mean. Hopefully as your bottle get older it will develop more depth and will be better performing. It's important to remember that as the fragrance gets older, and more air gets inside the bottle - it can increase the performance and scent some what. This has happened to me a few times now
Percival still Performing and Projecting very good, lasts 10+ hours on my skin with a very good projection. With that being said, I’ll think that the PdMs are still worth the money if you liked the „old“ formulations.
I bought reformulated one (2021 batch). It was really weak not as rich as pre-reformulated decant i had and performance awful (last 4 hrs). I used 15-20 sprays and threw it back to my shelf. After almost 3 months, i decided to give it another try, i was very surprised that my layton really potent and perform much much better almost as good as decant i used to have. If you guys had problem with new batch lately i would suggest to let it sit for a while and try again. I would definitely leave my layton sit for one or two months hopefully it will get stronger.
Update: I spent last 2 weeks wearing this. - the juice gets a bit stronger from last time (i don’t really think it will get any stronger) - both pre and post reformulates are 90% similar. If you wanna detect the difference, you have dig your nose in. I would say they are very close and ppl around you wouldn’t notice any difference. The whiff of it still amazing - reformulated one less spicy but woodier (this is weird but i think it’s rounder). The menthol vibe ppl talking about is gone. - i get solid 8-9 hours longevity. Strong projection for first 2 hours ( the juice is really strong almost get me cloy. Don’t overspray it!) I don’t think it’s woth to pay for overpriced old formula batch. They are 90% similar as i mentioned. There are plenty better option in the market. I would suggest you all to try xerjoff tony iommi.
Macerating or aging works for some perfumes better than others. I found that aging PDM works well due to the large amount of naturals in their formulations. I find that the new batches of Oajan, however, are just awful, full of synthetic airy woods, so I did go and snag a bottle of the vintage stuff on eBay. Some are worth it, some are not.
The new formulation does not last as long and it smells different. Parfums de Marly fragrances are ALWAYS getting reformulated and become much weaker than their ORIGINAL releases. Parfums de Marly HAS NOT been transparent when it comes to the reformulation of their fragrances. Carlisle, Herod & Oajan have also been reformulated and have 3%-4% more alcohol in newer batches.
Will you STOP!! You’re leaving this comment everywhere! What do you have a ton of boxes of the first formula that you’re reselling for $$$$$? Geez man 😂
@@kimberlyrose984 I posted a FYI note 11 months ago and it bothers you all these months later. I have 1 older bottle of Layton. I wish I had more bottles because I do not like the new formulation. The First Amendment and freedom of speech no longer exists in America. If somebody does not like what you have to say, you get hate.
Dang girl, he really got you with his passion for the older batch. The guy is just upset, thats all. Reformulations that change the fragrances we love are always a big pain in the ass. @@kimberlyrose984
I just bought Layton and it sad to say that I’m disappointed it does not last on my skin or on my cloths at all. I sprayed it six times on my skin and after 4 hours I don’t smell anything. I love the smell though.
I have a 2015 bottle that was running low so I found a tester (new in box) from 2019. I purchased it less than a month ago. Both are 78% alcohol but they smell different. The 2015 lost some of its top notes while the 2019 is how I remembered the 2015 when new. It’s splitting hairs though. I have a few frags that have changed over time. People always complain about reformulations but in my experience, many fragrances get richer and lose a little something off the top when they’re sitting on you shelf for years. I have a couple that the alcohol must have evaporated and are now straight oil. I can’t comment on the 82% batches but I suspect if you’ve never smelled the original, you’ll still be happy. One more thing, Al Haramain Detour Noir is close that I can hardly tell the difference between this and Layton.
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
@@j.i1503 after your comment, I wore some of my 2015 batch today. It’s still good. If you like the scent, go for it. My experience is that only frags that have a lot of naturals in them change slightly. Layton isn’t one of them.
I have my old 2019 bottle and my new 2022 bottle and they are pretty much the same thing. I think some people get too worked up about the smallest differences. Like the guy said, only thing that lacks in the new one is menthol note, other than that performance is great on both
Funny thing is:I have a bottle that is about 2 years old and the menthol note has become much more pronounced over the past 2 years for sure. I agree with you that people get too hung up on these things though. I mean, you can read reviews where people swear they got a fake and you find out that they bought it direct from Macy's or similar stores that would never sell a counterfeit.
I have a small sample of Layton, presumably the newer batch. I’ve never smelled the original one, don’t intend to, and am not too worried about obtaining the old batch. For me this sample objectively as it it smells fantastic, has great projection and superb sillage. For me as it is it’s a winner, I have no frame of reference with the old one so I like it quite a lot as it is. So for now I’ll just enjoy my humble sample, maybe get another one or a bigger one or maybe even a full bottle one day if I save up. It smells unique, smells expensive, and it’s great. Just my two cents!
I got a new formulation bottle from a discounter and paid around $160, found Orientica Royal Bleu to be superior, at roughly half the price. Forgot to add, that Layton was my 2nd bottle, first one I got in early 2021 til it ran out.
I bought a layton last month and when i tried it at the store it lasted all day but the one i bought the 82 pct one it only last about 2 hours then it become a skin sent i wish i bought another one from the brand
I have a June 2021 batch (82%). I never tried an older batch although I do have an Alexandria clone from a few years back that’s meant to be very close. Anyway, no issues with my bottle, subtle menthol in the opening which is perfectly balanced, if this was dialled up I think it would be off putting. In terms of performance, I never had an issue but I do think it’s got even stronger over the last 6 months. Heavy scent trail which is deceiving because I thought it was gone, but got a compliment about 2 hours after I applied it from about 6 feet away. I do use 10-12 sprays though. I can smell it on me the next day, but as a skin scent.
I just bought an 82% Layton blind buy, it’s coming soon, and idk what the 78% smells like either. How much stronger has it gotten compared to when you first bought it?
@@alexanderm4477 yes it lasts me atleast 8 hours. It eventually does get hard to tell if it lasts longer than that because you can go nose blind to fragrances. It’s my second favourite fragrance in my whole collection, gotten a handful of compliments too
@@jackaroofragranceguru That’s good to hear. Some people say the 82% have bad performance and some say it’s good so it’s difficult to know what to believe
Dude damm 10-12 sprays??? You must clear rooms lol. Either that or it’s gotten so much weaker because there is no way I would do that with my Layton-78%. 2 sprays if I’m indoors and 3-4 sprays max if I’m at an outdoor beer fest in late fall. And even then 4 would be pushing it lol.
I bought Layton last year after trying a decant. The decant was very heavy on the menthol, and I was quite disappointed with my purchase. I thought I'd bought a fake! 😂 Although I'm not obsessed, I do dislike reformulations, and IFRA are a negative force imo.
Yeah the menthol note was very divisive in the community with some loving it and some hating it. I believe that's why PDM have toned it right down in these newer batches
I was wondering why my new bottle smelled a little different, I had 2 of the previous batch, when 1 ran out this year I ordered another bottle. Now I have 1 of the new and 1 of the old. I save the old batch for night action , and new bottle for daytime usage
@@JStorm310 I've been testing it more often, since I originally bought this. I found testing this to be a bit hard, due to the ISO E Super in it making me a bit nose blind. Others could definitely still smell it on me. Depends on how many sprays I put on. Projection is pretty good, I'd say about 2-3 hours of strong projection, and then eventually turns to a mostly vanilla scent. Overall, when I spray about 10-12 sprays on my skin, it lasts me about 8-10 hours. On clothes, the vanilla scent lingers easily for about 2-3 days. So if you reuse a jacket/coat, you can spray it on there and get good bang for your buck. With the sillage, I'd say it's moderate. As in, the cloud trail doesn't linger as long as I thought it would, but still there. Hope that helps!
I'm so happy I've got a march 2020 batch, it's almost full, I'm not gonna buy this perfume anymore, I'm just gonna use mine only in special occasions, when it's finished I'm probably not gonna buy it again.
avoid anything from 2022 fo the price they are charging ..on me they changed more than alcohol % ...and definitely went from 7-8 hours to 3-4 hours depending on how much you spray..ALTERNATIVE Loyal Agar or Detour Noir both 95+% and EDP performance of old batch..just my opinion
Old batch is much better... had much stronger notes and lasted hours longer on my skin. I used to get compliments on the older batch. but the last bottle i purchased is a disappointment. I would even describe it as a fake cheap recreation although i know it is genuine product.
Agreed old batch is definitely better. With my 2 batches the opening/mid are different but the dry down is very similar. It's a shame this happens to our favourite fragrances
This has well put me off getting Layton now 😭 I so wanted too get this. Help me guy's is it still worth it??? I'm hearing some not even lasting 2 hour's??? Surely that's not right for the price 😳
Hi Bro. I want to buy Pdm Layton, and I don’t experienced the old one. But after watching your video I loose my heart because the only available layton is 82 percent volume and 2022 batch and I really wanna wear this fragrance. What should I do. Please let me know.
I just purchased from oryginnal PDM shop 82%.. complete dissapointment... Not the same parfume, somd similarities, but verry, verry weak, not lasting not projecting..
@@jewelersofwhale give it time to macerate, I found my 2020 batch was poor performing but after a few months it changed to excellent performance and richer scent I would say.
Thanks. Carlisle is also reformulated. I’m not really happy about it. It’s really sad. I‘ll never buy pdm and xerjoff - Naxos because of reformulation.
Hi there, I have just subscribed to your channel, I'm a fan of your reviews. Can you please shower some light on the two fragrance that are on your left back while you are reviewing. If I'm not wrong it is from Ahmad Al Qurashi or from Carolina Herrera. I just wanted to know about their performance. Please reply. Thank's Nitin
I have a 2021 batch. And dude it is strong af. Only 2 sprays and i leave a scent trail werever i go . Which i was constantly told almost every time i wore. And as far as bouncing if my skin it did. I could easily get wiffs of it throught the wear. So i dont know if i i got the new formulation or mid new i dont care because in my skin it works wonders. By the way my batch smells strong in vanilla and spicy note
That’s awesome, glad it works really well for you. Typically the newer batches with say 82% on the bottom of the bottle, whilst the older ones will not have the % on the bottle. If you still have the box it would clarify for sure. Every chance you have the older batch still
@visionaryfragrances oh well in that case mines actually doesn't say the % at the bottom. So I guess I have a older batch 😅 thx for letting me know that .
I have a question I`ve just got a 78% batch Layton. The thing it says 2015 at the botton side of the box and it doesnt have a QR code. Can anyone help me understand whether I have a fake version?
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you guys reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
Hi, unfortunately, we reformulated all the tops, herod, layton, layton exclusive, carlais, even pegasus exclusive, everything comes in a concentration of 82% !!! Batch code 2021-2022...
Performance can get better in some fragrances over time as more oxygen gets into the bottle and the chemicals/natural oils macerate. I've had a few fragrances get better (longer lasting/richer) over time but the difference will not be massive
@@BIGHH81 thats pretty, even more sad that i know im a week late since my local shop just restock with a new batch. Pretty sure they had the old batch a week ago
I got a week ago a new bottle of Layton ( batch 2292153) and it really sucks , it smells for like 2 hours and then disappears not worth anymore . Pathetic
@@visionaryfragrances thanks for your advice but it doesn’t change anything , this isn’t worth 250€ anymore especially if I have to wait weeks or month
@@mayrokspsn9068Same goes for current Herod. "Pathetic" is an understatement of monumental proportions. After 15 glorious minutes it dries down to a boring lifeless weak buttery scent. I wouldn't pay more than 50$ for it. Not even that. On a different note, I've found a 78% Oajan bottle yesterday. The last one in my country. I was lucky.
Maceration has a part to play in most fragrances, however in the newer Layton batches there is a change, or removal of ingredients which has affected the smell and overall quality in my opinion
Hey man. I just received my bottle of latest batch, its 2292153 Production date 2022-07-18 it seems different from the sample I had this winter, but not 100% sure.
Your decant most likely was from a bottle that had time to macerate and get seemingly stronger over time. So you should give the 82% bottle more time to macerate since the bottles don't get time to macerate as soon as they are filled at the factory. After letting the bottle macerate, then I recommend you compare the two
It’s an ego thing , of course everyone that has a slightly more potent formulation will trumpet how there’s is better and they have the good stuff and the rest of us don’t , like good for you , the rest of us are quite happy with our so called watered down PDM juice . 😂
For me, I just found the whole reformulation thing with PDM very sad so I decided to compare them. I have also noticed big differences in my latest Pegasus and Kalan. This video is simply to educate and explain why if you owned a PDM years ago, why you are getting a different fragrance if purchased recently
I have the old formulation 78% and new formulation 82%. Not only is the menthol note gone from the open in 82% it is crazy weak i can barely smell it. The 78% old formulation was a projection monster I would get compliments left and right but the new formulation is almost just a skin scent. I wish I knew this before buying the new bottle.
I have a newer batch of Layton and Carlisle. Both are as potent and amazing as they’ve always been. I’m fairly certain if they didn’t have the % on the bottle,…no one would notice a dang thing.
So all good???
No there's definitely a performance difference I have both carlise and layton bottles from 2020 and the latest reform in 2021 and its missing something like the guy in the video said and it just doesn't last I get 6-8 hours with the new batches and 10 plus hours with the old
@@DarkKnight--22 slight performance difference, 82 doesn’t last as long but the 82 smells better in my opinion because it got rid of the menthol note, i wasn’t the biggest fan of the original for some reason but it grew on me and then i smelled this batch and i absolutely love it
@@crunchybread5425so the performance on the 82% is still good?
Yes it is
Great video, absolutely on point. Its true that EU banned Lilial which led manufacturers rework their fragrances. In modern perfumery, especially at big companies like Firmenich, there are alternative ingredients ready so no need to panic 🙃
Thank you for your comment and I totally agree with you
Very fair point here, however PDM decided to water down the scent and raise the price. This is not very friendly towards the clients, I must say!
@@razvanyke You are right! This is a general problem of the industry :) All of them want to preserve the ratio of extremely high margin and increase their prices over time.
I would not buy from any of these companies that water down then raise prices. Pure robbery
The first time I tried Layton about 2 years ago from a sample decant, it blew my mind. It lasted 14 hours and had this addictive and very appealing smell. Finally bought a bottle last month and it just doesn’t have the same effect on me. Maybe it’s because I’m used to the smell and it’s not new anymore. But I’m pretty convinced the formula has changed quite a bit. Mine smells more floral, fresh clothing kind of smell on the opening. The one I tried years ago had this rich apple vanilla kind of smell that was addictive. I know it’s not fake because I bought it from selfridges but it’s so disappointing.
yes that's right the old 78% version had juicy apple and strong vanilla. It lasted over a week. new formula max one day
I have the 82% bottle I never smelled the old batch. I love Layton
Me too mate - the 82% is still absolutely decent 🔥
Friend of mine recently bought one of the new bottles with 82% and 7-digit batch code, and he said that he immediately noticed a drop in performance. We decided to experiment - he brought it to work, applied it to his wrist and sure enough, no more than 3 hours later I could barely smell it on him. He works in a different department so it's not like we are next to each other the whole day. The scent is still great, but that performance is not something I would ever spend that kind of money on.
This is great to know! I am just looking into getting PDM Layton as my first fragrance and I was worried it wouldn't be as nice as the older formulation that I had heard so much about, but I am relieved that it is not so different😅
Thanks for your comment 😊
I have the “reformulated” bottles of all PDM’s. Stuff smells amazing and last all day and evening!
I have Layton 82% and it doesnt last at all, do u have a idea why?
Probably nose blindness or just your skin sucks
I have both but I rather go for the new reformulation over the old. When I got 2016 it has a minty smell in the opening. The vanilla smell was real thick and heavy. Good for the cold weather for me. The new batch is more versatile and can use on any occasion. The performance is good.
That’s a great description mate. I agree completely. I personally prefer the older batches because I love the menthol and thick vanilla - but I also agree the newer batches are more versatile
Have the 82% and it sucks. 78% had this freshness and airyness to it that this one doesn't have. 82% is flat and it doesn't push off my skin and doesn't last. I'm disappointed
I totally understand what you mean. Hopefully as your bottle get older it will develop more depth and will be better performing. It's important to remember that as the fragrance gets older, and more air gets inside the bottle - it can increase the performance and scent some what. This has happened to me a few times now
Its been some time since u comented this, but did it get better with maceration?
You should do a similar video comparing older and newer batches of Percival. A lot of people have different opinions on performance on that one.
Thats a great idea. I only have a newer batch of Percival so will need to find an older batch. Herod would also be interesting 🤔
I was lucky enough to get a 2018 bottle when I bought my bottle off Notino last year. How’s the performance on newer bottles?
Percival still Performing and Projecting very good, lasts 10+ hours on my skin with a very good projection. With that being said, I’ll think that the PdMs are still worth the money if you liked the „old“ formulations.
I agree I’ve bought Perceval and it seems weak ?
The new batches of Percival are a skin scent after 2 hours. 😡
I bought reformulated one (2021 batch). It was really weak not as rich as pre-reformulated decant i had and performance awful (last 4 hrs). I used 15-20 sprays and threw it back to my shelf. After almost 3 months, i decided to give it another try, i was very surprised that my layton really potent and perform much much better almost as good as decant i used to have. If you guys had problem with new batch lately i would suggest to let it sit for a while and try again. I would definitely leave my layton sit for one or two months hopefully it will get stronger.
Did it works?
Update:
I spent last 2 weeks wearing this.
- the juice gets a bit stronger from last time (i don’t really think it will get any stronger)
- both pre and post reformulates are 90% similar. If you wanna detect the difference, you have dig your nose in. I would say they are very close and ppl around you wouldn’t notice any difference. The whiff of it still amazing
- reformulated one less spicy but woodier (this is weird but i think it’s rounder). The menthol vibe ppl talking about is gone.
- i get solid 8-9 hours longevity. Strong projection for first 2 hours ( the juice is really strong almost get me cloy. Don’t overspray it!)
I don’t think it’s woth to pay for overpriced old formula batch. They are 90% similar as i mentioned. There are plenty better option in the market. I would suggest you all to try xerjoff tony iommi.
@@iceice1374 Thx for the info
Macerating or aging works for some perfumes better than others. I found that aging PDM works well due to the large amount of naturals in their formulations. I find that the new batches of Oajan, however, are just awful, full of synthetic airy woods, so I did go and snag a bottle of the vintage stuff on eBay. Some are worth it, some are not.
@@twinklefire7241If you like oajan you can also use 1 million Prive
The new formulation does not last as long and it smells different. Parfums de Marly fragrances are ALWAYS getting reformulated and become much weaker than their ORIGINAL releases. Parfums de Marly HAS NOT been transparent when it comes to the reformulation of their fragrances. Carlisle, Herod & Oajan have also been reformulated and have 3%-4% more alcohol in newer batches.
INDEED... I BUY PERFUMES AT FOREVERLUX INSTEAD OF NORDSTROM/MACYS... I PREFER OLD BADGES🙄🙄🙄
Will you STOP!! You’re leaving this comment everywhere! What do you have a ton of boxes of the first formula that you’re reselling for $$$$$? Geez man 😂
@@kimberlyrose984 I posted a FYI note 11 months ago and it bothers you all these months later. I have 1 older bottle of Layton. I wish I had more bottles because I do not like the new formulation. The First Amendment and freedom of speech no longer exists in America. If somebody does not like what you have to say, you get hate.
Dang girl, he really got you with his passion for the older batch. The guy is just upset, thats all. Reformulations that change the fragrances we love are always a big pain in the ass. @@kimberlyrose984
I just bought Layton and it sad to say that I’m disappointed it does not last on my skin or on my cloths at all. I sprayed it six times on my skin and after 4 hours I don’t smell anything. I love the smell though.
Same. Makes me wonder if it's a fake
You both just dont have a very good chemistry with the fragrance.
I have a 2015 bottle that was running low so I found a tester (new in box) from 2019. I purchased it less than a month ago. Both are 78% alcohol but they smell different. The 2015 lost some of its top notes while the 2019 is how I remembered the 2015 when new. It’s splitting hairs though. I have a few frags that have changed over time. People always complain about reformulations but in my experience, many fragrances get richer and lose a little something off the top when they’re sitting on you shelf for years. I have a couple that the alcohol must have evaporated and are now straight oil. I can’t comment on the 82% batches but I suspect if you’ve never smelled the original, you’ll still be happy. One more thing, Al Haramain Detour Noir is close that I can hardly tell the difference between this and Layton.
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
@@j.i1503 after your comment, I wore some of my 2015 batch today. It’s still good. If you like the scent, go for it. My experience is that only frags that have a lot of naturals in them change slightly. Layton isn’t one of them.
Thank you for making this video. It was very informative. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I have my old 2019 bottle and my new 2022 bottle and they are pretty much the same thing. I think some people get too worked up about the smallest differences. Like the guy said, only thing that lacks in the new one is menthol note, other than that performance is great on both
Funny thing is:I have a bottle that is about 2 years old and the menthol note has become much more pronounced over the past 2 years for sure. I agree with you that people get too hung up on these things though. I mean, you can read reviews where people swear they got a fake and you find out that they bought it direct from Macy's or similar stores that would never sell a counterfeit.
I have a small sample of Layton, presumably the newer batch. I’ve never smelled the original one, don’t intend to, and am not too worried about obtaining the old batch.
For me this sample objectively as it it smells fantastic, has great projection and superb sillage. For me as it is it’s a winner, I have no frame of reference with the old one so I like it quite a lot as it is.
So for now I’ll just enjoy my humble sample, maybe get another one or a bigger one or maybe even a full bottle one day if I save up. It smells unique, smells expensive, and it’s great. Just my two cents!
It’s my firs expensive fragrance and I love it all this time I been looking for something diferente in till now!!
I got a new formulation bottle from a discounter and paid around $160, found Orientica Royal Bleu to be superior, at roughly half the price.
Forgot to add, that Layton was my 2nd bottle, first one I got in early 2021 til it ran out.
Great review, good to know. I have the old batch I bought about a year or so ago. It smells great!
i had the same, wish i could go back in time and buy like 3-4 bottles of the old one :(
I bought a layton last month and when i tried it at the store it lasted all day but the one i bought the 82 pct one it only last about 2 hours then it become a skin sent i wish i bought another one from the brand
Same with my Carlise 😢
I have a June 2021 batch (82%). I never tried an older batch although I do have an Alexandria clone from a few years back that’s meant to be very close. Anyway, no issues with my bottle, subtle menthol in the opening which is perfectly balanced, if this was dialled up I think it would be off putting. In terms of performance, I never had an issue but I do think it’s got even stronger over the last 6 months. Heavy scent trail which is deceiving because I thought it was gone, but got a compliment about 2 hours after I applied it from about 6 feet away. I do use 10-12 sprays though. I can smell it on me the next day, but as a skin scent.
I just bought an 82% Layton blind buy, it’s coming soon, and idk what the 78% smells like either. How much stronger has it gotten compared to when you first bought it?
@@jackaroofragrancegurudoes it have good performance?
@@alexanderm4477 yes it lasts me atleast 8 hours. It eventually does get hard to tell if it lasts longer than that because you can go nose blind to fragrances. It’s my second favourite fragrance in my whole collection, gotten a handful of compliments too
@@jackaroofragranceguru That’s good to hear. Some people say the 82% have bad performance and some say it’s good so it’s difficult to know what to believe
Dude damm 10-12 sprays??? You must clear rooms lol. Either that or it’s gotten so much weaker because there is no way I would do that with my Layton-78%. 2 sprays if I’m indoors and 3-4 sprays max if I’m at an outdoor beer fest in late fall. And even then 4 would be pushing it lol.
Very Interesting video . 👏 I love Layton and checked which one my Bottle is and it's the 78% one . It Smells Awesome mate !! 👌
Thank you very much! I prefer the 78% mainly because of the opening - but think it's important not to get too caught up in reformation talk
I bought Layton last year after trying a decant. The decant was very heavy on the menthol, and I was quite disappointed with my purchase. I thought I'd bought a fake! 😂 Although I'm not obsessed, I do dislike reformulations, and IFRA are a negative force imo.
Yeah the menthol note was very divisive in the community with some loving it and some hating it. I believe that's why PDM have toned it right down in these newer batches
I HAVE A 75002 OLD LAYTON.. WITH 3 SPRAYS I GO AS A BEAST... ALSO HACIVAT & ADG PROFUMO ARE BEASTS🙄🙄🙄
@@espartan3806 I'm jealous! 🤠 Like most reformulations, that one was not for the better.
I was wondering why my new bottle smelled a little different, I had 2 of the previous batch, when 1 ran out this year I ordered another bottle. Now I have 1 of the new and 1 of the old. I save the old batch for night action , and new bottle for daytime usage
Thanks for doing the video, mate! Will definitely update you after I test my 82% batch more!
No problem at all and I look forward to your update! 🤜
What do you think?? Is it still good?
@@deeni. yes, it’s still good. The menthol note is definitely not as strong, but overall it’s still a great fragrance and lasts long.
@@waynerod10 About how long does the projection last? How about the silage?
@@JStorm310 I've been testing it more often, since I originally bought this. I found testing this to be a bit hard, due to the ISO E Super in it making me a bit nose blind. Others could definitely still smell it on me.
Depends on how many sprays I put on. Projection is pretty good, I'd say about 2-3 hours of strong projection, and then eventually turns to a mostly vanilla scent. Overall, when I spray about 10-12 sprays on my skin, it lasts me about 8-10 hours. On clothes, the vanilla scent lingers easily for about 2-3 days. So if you reuse a jacket/coat, you can spray it on there and get good bang for your buck.
With the sillage, I'd say it's moderate. As in, the cloud trail doesn't linger as long as I thought it would, but still there.
Hope that helps!
I bought lalique white and black it's similar to my Layton. Great video's 🎉
I'll have to try this! Thanks for the comment 🙂
Very informative, thank you. I subscribed
I'm so happy I've got a march 2020 batch, it's almost full, I'm not gonna buy this perfume anymore, I'm just gonna use mine only in special occasions, when it's finished I'm probably not gonna buy it again.
avoid anything from 2022 fo the price they are charging ..on me they changed more than alcohol % ...and definitely went from 7-8 hours to 3-4 hours depending on how much you spray..ALTERNATIVE Loyal Agar or Detour Noir both 95+% and EDP performance of old batch..just my opinion
I’ve been saying this for few months now. I got few samples from 21-22 and performance it’s awful. Layton it’s on sale almost in every country atm.
I’m getting strong projection from PDM newer batches for the same 7-10 hours (dependent upon which one).
Old batch is much better... had much stronger notes and lasted hours longer on my skin. I used to get compliments on the older batch. but the last bottle i purchased is a disappointment. I would even describe it as a fake cheap recreation although i know it is genuine product.
Agreed old batch is definitely better. With my 2 batches the opening/mid are different but the dry down is very similar. It's a shame this happens to our favourite fragrances
I still have my old formulation of Layton and Herod. Looks like this will be my last buy of PDM.
Have the new Percival and it's weak as shit. PDM should be ashamed charges their prices for this! Never again!
This has well put me off getting Layton now 😭 I so wanted too get this.
Help me guy's is it still worth it??? I'm hearing some not even lasting 2 hour's??? Surely that's not right for the price 😳
I have a Layton I recently purchased, and it's so bad. Weak and doesn't last at all
@@BO-2016 its been a month, did maceration help?
Hi Bro. I want to buy Pdm Layton, and I don’t experienced the old one. But after watching your video I loose my heart because the only available layton is 82 percent volume and 2022 batch and I really wanna wear this fragrance. What should I do. Please let me know.
Great stuff! Love perfumes that have scent memories 😎👍
Me too! One of my favourite things about fragrances
Also ,The 82% smells closer to Layton exclusif …
yes that's right the old 78% version had juicy apple and strong vanilla. It lasted over a week. new formula max one day
Hey man, Great video. When was the reformulation made???
Thank you! Sometime in 2021 I believe
I have 2021 please tell me it's good or not I have no idea..
Went to neiman Marcus yesterday and bought Layton and Herod with 78% alcohol. So there are still original formula bottles out there for sale.
I just purchased from oryginnal PDM shop 82%.. complete dissapointment...
Not the same parfume, somd similarities, but verry, verry weak, not lasting not projecting..
My English is Not that good so.. has the 78% or 82% Version better Performance?
I have just replaced my old bottle, but found something off with the smell. Now i know why :-/
Mind elaborating mate? Just bought a back up 2019 bottle on ebay. Two bottles is good enough for me.
@@Brandon-sb7oi its not as spicy cardmon and vanilla frag, and more woody, lavendel fresh. Its not bad, but not what i wanted.
@@jewelersofwhale give it time to macerate, I found my 2020 batch was poor performing but after a few months it changed to excellent performance and richer scent I would say.
Thank God I have the 78% batch
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Thanks. Carlisle is also reformulated. I’m not really happy about it. It’s really sad. I‘ll never buy pdm and xerjoff - Naxos because of reformulation.
Well its EU laws lol
finally got into Niche with this one. however I recieved a 78% version. Batch code tracks back to December 2020
Me too im from argentina and its the first time this company have this fragrances in my country and then i watch this
Hi there, I have just subscribed to your channel, I'm a fan of your reviews. Can you please shower some light on the two fragrance that are on your left back while you are reviewing. If I'm not wrong it is from Ahmad Al Qurashi or from Carolina Herrera. I just wanted to know about their performance.
Please reply.
Thank's
Nitin
I have sample of new batch. Perfomance is terrible. 2 hours of good projection is joke considering you have to splash 182 pounds for 100 ml.
I have a 2021 batch. And dude it is strong af. Only 2 sprays and i leave a scent trail werever i go . Which i was constantly told almost every time i wore. And as far as bouncing if my skin it did. I could easily get wiffs of it throught the wear. So i dont know if i i got the new formulation or mid new i dont care because in my skin it works wonders. By the way my batch smells strong in vanilla and spicy note
That’s awesome, glad it works really well for you. Typically the newer batches with say 82% on the bottom of the bottle, whilst the older ones will not have the % on the bottle. If you still have the box it would clarify for sure. Every chance you have the older batch still
@visionaryfragrances oh well in that case mines actually doesn't say the % at the bottom. So I guess I have a older batch 😅 thx for letting me know that .
I have a question I`ve just got a 78% batch Layton. The thing it says 2015 at the botton side of the box and it doesnt have a QR code. Can anyone help me understand whether I have a fake version?
I am planning on buying an old batch bottle of Layton from 2018. It still has 122ML of 125ML, you guys reckon it's still good? And if so, how long can I still use the bottle?
Hi, unfortunately, we reformulated all the tops, herod, layton, layton exclusive, carlais, even pegasus exclusive, everything comes in a concentration of 82% !!! Batch code 2021-2022...
Hey boss, do you know when it was reformulated?
What is your batch code of 78%?
HI!! Is there a issue with the 2022 Layton batch 2302154?? Its very weak
I have a 2021 batch but it still has the 78% Batch 1080379. Is that normal?
Yes I am sure it's fine. They could well of made some of the older batches in 2021 but changed a part way through the year
Look if batch code is 6 or 7 digits!!!!
6 is ole version
7 is not good
How do I find if mine is new or old based on batch number?
I am disappointed to find out Layton was reformulated
Me too! But after the initial opening the dry down has not been changed that much
I HAVE A 75002... OLD BOTTLE... ITS VERYYYY STRONG... WITH 3 SPRAYS I GO AS A BEAST🙄🙄🙄
I bought the new one (82%) but still didn’t unbox… should I change to the old one ?
Have you got the option to change for an older batch?
I have a 21 Sedley, horrible performance. Hopefully by Summer it will have time to masurate and do better than 4 hours.
In which year did the reformulation happen?
I have 82% Layton and its filled up 2 months ago. Can the Performance get better by time ?
Performance can get better in some fragrances over time as more oxygen gets into the bottle and the chemicals/natural oils macerate. I've had a few fragrances get better (longer lasting/richer) over time but the difference will not be massive
Thank you for repplying
@@BIGHH81 update on your layton pls
@@hnfnamia6605 it didn‘t get better. I sold it
@@BIGHH81 thats pretty, even more sad that i know im a week late since my local shop just restock with a new batch. Pretty sure they had the old batch a week ago
Hi brother 💞 I bought 3 day ago Layton pdm has Bach code is 2021 and has volume is 78% it's fine or no.. love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Where did you order from?
The bottles are a little different isn't it?
I got a week ago a new bottle of Layton ( batch 2292153) and it really sucks , it smells for like 2 hours and then disappears not worth anymore . Pathetic
Let it sit for a while, it's possible it can improve with age :)
@@visionaryfragrances thanks for your advice but it doesn’t change anything , this isn’t worth 250€ anymore especially if I have to wait weeks or month
@@mayrokspsn9068Same goes for current Herod. "Pathetic" is an understatement of monumental proportions. After 15 glorious minutes it dries down to a boring lifeless weak buttery scent. I wouldn't pay more than 50$ for it. Not even that.
On a different note, I've found a 78% Oajan bottle yesterday. The last one in my country. I was lucky.
Most differences people smell with older batches is maceration
Maceration has a part to play in most fragrances, however in the newer Layton batches there is a change, or removal of ingredients which has affected the smell and overall quality in my opinion
@@visionaryfragrances eu regulations forced most fragrance makes to change to chemicals
What was the batch code for the 2022 bottle ?
Hey man. I just received my bottle of latest batch, its 2292153 Production date 2022-07-18 it seems different from the sample I had this winter, but not 100% sure.
IM SO F’ING MAD. MY LAYTON IS 82% AND ITS TRASH. MY DECANT SMELLED STRONGER LASTED LONGER🤬🤬🤬🤬
Your decant most likely was from a bottle that had time to macerate and get seemingly stronger over time. So you should give the 82% bottle more time to macerate since the bottles don't get time to macerate as soon as they are filled at the factory. After letting the bottle macerate, then I recommend you compare the two
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@@Khans0120How do you macerate your fragrance?
@@alexanderm4477 it just macerates on its own over time as it is being used and more air is being introduced into the container
@@Khans0120 do you have good longevity with the 82%?
is the exclusif Layton also 82%?
I’ve seen 78% Layton exclusif on eBay
Mine is January 2020.. could mine be ok?
it says on the box and bottle what vol. percentage it is…
@@kleeblattchen38mine doesn’t say on the bottle but it has a 2020 production date 7 digits
It’s an ego thing , of course everyone that has a slightly more potent formulation will trumpet how there’s is better and they have the good stuff and the rest of us don’t , like good for you , the rest of us are quite happy with our so called watered down PDM juice . 😂
For me, I just found the whole reformulation thing with PDM very sad so I decided to compare them. I have also noticed big differences in my latest Pegasus and Kalan. This video is simply to educate and explain why if you owned a PDM years ago, why you are getting a different fragrance if purchased recently
new formulation 👎
the longevity of layton sucks now.
The older batch 78% of layton is project more louder than the newest .
Let's get real here, why do you want a fragrance on you for 10+ hours?!
Cause you’re spending hundreds of dollars on it.
It don’t make any sense your made tripping big dog
layton is a overpriced party fragrance for kids
No
Batch: 2302154 (2022) it's just a skin scent 👎
You’re noseblind
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