@@weezards1014 hahaha r/wooosh ecks dee, im so funny cuz i use r/woosh when it's either clearly not needed or when i force it to make a screenshot and post my retarded meme on reddit hahahaha -i fucking hate when people do this. stop, do it only when it's obvious enough and not when a person JUST DOESN'T FUCKIN GET IT AND SAYS THAT IT DOESN'T GET IT OMG-
Hornet really is like her family. She uses silk like her mother, buzzsaws like her father, embarks on a dangerous journey like one sibling and stabs herself violently in the chest like another sibling
@@AshenDust_ devil may cry is literally 2 siblings reunating to stab each other with their swords theres even a joke that with every installment one of the siblings always gets impaled by a sword
@@thecasualrace5650 You fool. You absolute baffoon. You think yourself a king? A god, perhaps? I have stood atop the ziggurat, but in your arrogance you seek to usurp me? You may be strong, child, but I am beyond strength. Beyond wisdom. Before me lays out the scraping horizons and of the starless abyss. You seek to challenge me? Then come forth and seal thy fate.
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@@douglewis7946 For he is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Gaze upon his works, ye mighty, and despair.
““Remember when William said hollow knight 2 wouldn’t come out for ten years” well he was lying.” Idk man so far it’s been pretty accurate I’m so disappointed that my most liked comment is also my most depressing one.
"So, the Lace campaign ended up getting too big for a dlc as originally planned, so we're announcing Hollow Knight: Shroomspell, explore a vast new kingdom haunted by Spores and Magic!"
CoffeeFields 101 plot twist they actually had no idea what they were doing and created the trailer to copy mossbags lore speculations and then be like “wow he guessed it right”
@@ridori7376 shush dont entertain such ideas. Primal aspids are literally the spawn of satan just as an enemy. A boss is gonna make me rage just looking at it.
Well. Maybe he ment that literally. There was an idea that 2028 would be it since it randomly appeared on steam. However we got told 2 months ago within a year so maybe not. (2 months ago is in reference to my comment)
I think that Hornet didn't wait to escape, it just happened to her. Her eyes widened like she was surprised at what was happening. My guess is that once she crossed over into this new kingdom (by being close to the weavers or who knows what) something awakened inside of her.
To add onto this, it's stated multiple times throughout Hollow Knight that the only thing giving the bugs in Hallownest sentience was the Pale King's doing. Anything that left the kingdom would "relinquish the precious mind this kingdom grants". I'm wondering if the only reason Hornet didn't escape earlier is because she became lifeless after leaving the outskirts of the kingdom, until something gave her sentience again... That, or Hornet ASKED the bugs to carry her to the other kingdom, knowing she couldn't make it herself.
basically what i thought was: the land is haunted by silk and song, so they need to use stuff to keep silk and song away from them. for song they keep bells around, so they always have sound around them, for silk, notice how some enemies have crochet needles, and some scissors? i think they might use that to keep the silk at bay. or something like that
"haunted by silk and song" - when you mentioned puppets and their masters, isn't there another expression for following someone's orders? like: "playing to the master's tunes"? i think that the Weavers were rulers in that kingdom, like the Pale King (he was Wyrm before getting new form), and Radiance before him, but unlike them, they weren't forgotten - they had to hide in their own kingdom, leaving Hornet to find them and do something about it. wait, Pale King did that too (Radiance was also hidden, although not by her choice)! EDIT: Brandon Martineau, thank you for correcting me!
@@Larya26 Not meaning to be a party pooper but it is spelled "Radiance", not "radiation" lol. Ps : Radiance's a girl. Also it's literally her name : Radiance, not The Radiance. Quote from Seer (again, the name of the NPC in Hollow Knight, not The Seer (who is a girl too, albeit i am sure she is a lot younger then Radiance, but a old lady anway to the Knight) *sigh* , I wonder just how many people has made this dumb mistake, Team Chery should've been more specific, even I was honestly a bit confused at first) : Radiance, I remember you. *essence out of the universe cuz why not, Seer can transform into essence, okay...*
@@brandonmartineau4591 It's alright, I was too focused on telling my theory that I forgot the important detail - her name! I apologise for the mistake, honestly!
@@Larya26 Eh eh, sorry, I jsut corrected a friend of mine's chapter and I'm still in "correct" mode so I kinda just spotted the error and replied without thinking XD But yeah, at least you recognised you made a mistake, and it's ok. Also I kinda like that thing "following the master's tune", I never heard that one before.
@@brandonmartineau4591 It's truly alright, sometimes we need to be corrected! Also (since I'm lazy to edit again), it's originally "dancing to the master's tunes" - don't know why I wrote 'playing', but, eh, same meaning, different wording.
I wonder if that's because The Radiance got nommed/sealed by void or because The Radiance was a local deity which didn't have power outside of Hallownest.
@@android19willpwn Maybe the sound problem is caused(if it is real like I assume it is) by another creature powerful like the Radiance or the pale king, also remember that it is stated that the pale king had power only in Hallownest.
I feel like this new kingdom has strong connection to Tuners from Godmaster DLC. They were the only ones to use bells in the game, and since we now know that bells are apparently important I don't think that's just a coincidence
A scholar Exploring and seeking out every single bit of information it can get its hands on A scholar who went all the way down to the abyss to seek not only answers about the void but also managing to get shade spells only to understand it better A scholar that basically bullied the dreamseers/moths for the dream nail and their deep secrets A scholar who went and "studied" (another "bully in the name of knowledge") the grimm troupe the second he acknowledged their existence A scholar who tried its best to get access to the godhome in the name of knowledge A scholar whose whole purpose is one and only: *L E A R N E V E R Y S I N G L E D E T A I L A B O U T E V E R Y S I N G L E T H I N G N O M A T T E R T H E D A N G E R O R H O W M U C H E F F O R T I T T A K E S G O I N G A S F A R A S I N J E C T I N G T H E I N F E C T I O N L I F E B L O O D A N D E V E N V O I D E V E N I F I T K I L L S H I M*
@@miguelmialichi6367 i really like this concept and i was thinking about it some time ago. He could be a little bag with eyes we find and he is writing in his book, and then he can share lore with us about pharloom, i think it would make the real mossbag really happy.
@@miguelmialichi6367 now i thought about him crating crazy theories about some things, just to make some fun about some of the things mossbag says, but fitting in character. it would be cool.
"Remember when William said Hollow Knight 2 wouldn't be coming out for another 10 years? Well turns out he was lying right to our faces," Little does he know William wasn't lying ... I have nothing better to do than comment on a 4 year old mossbag video after the silksong delay
One thing I see is that Shakra reminds me a lot, not of Cornifer, but Iselda. And we do learn that Iselda was some sort of a warrior at some point before settling down with Cornifer. So just putting that out there!
Mossbag you missed something potentially big although kind of subjective! (but isn't that what your channel is all about?) About the moment of Hornet's escape.... Take a real close look at her face, as the threads coalesce around her. Doesn't she look... kind of surprised? Maybe the answer to your question of 'why not escape at any time' is that... she didn't. Somebody else broke her out; somebody pulling the strings from far away. That'd answer why she didn't escape before, but of course it just raises more intriguing questions...
I think you're right about her looking surprised. I'm not convinced that she was captured in the first place. The "cage" looks like it might just be a carriage. Considering Hornet's royal lineage, and her connection to the Weavers, my theory is that Hornet was traveling to the same place the Weavers went when they left Hollownest. She may have even been sent for. This brings up the possibility that the "breakout" is actually an attack, maybe even an assassination attempt.
@@NinjaGidget I don't agree for three reasons, although I admit they are all fairly weak. First, she looks kind of grumpy rattling along in that cage. Second, it doesn't appear to have any doors. Finally, those cultists who carry her show up as enemies later. This final point could be explained away as them being under free will when traveling with hornet and being 'puppeteered' later on, but the fact that they wear silk masks implies they are somehow 'alligned' with silk.
wait dont bugs lose their minds if they leave hollownest, like quirrel? hornet lost her sense of self after being captured and forcibly taken out of hollownest, but regained it upon entering a new kingdom with a different wyrm type god to give the bugs in it sentience
I think Hornet has one of the best character designs I’ve ever seen, she looks so sleek and agile and badass. I still have yet to play Hollow Knight and yet I’m already in love with her.
This kingdom is "haunted by silk and song" A mild theory appeared to me when I've heard this line. Right before watching this video I've watched the Vitruvian Grub video, in the video you have tried to speculate if there's anything more to a sidequest about them. An idea that came to my head is that the "Grubs" are actually silkworms who can manufacture silk, or "Soul silk" , a motive that we've seen used all around the "Silksong" trailer. In addition, we've seen the grubs produce songs when the protagonist approached them in "Hollow knight" that can be linked to the song that's taking over this new kingdom. All of this can also explain why the collector seperated all of the grubs across Hallownest at the command of the Pale King : Because the Metamorphosis of the grubs will give birth to the creature strong enough to overthrow the Pale King's kingdom. The main antagonist of "Silksong" might actually be the metamorphosis product of the cute grubs that we all know and love. That's just a theory I came up with, I thought it would be nice to share.
@@antoinemartin1389moths come from larvae, and one of the moths ascended into a god. Maybe a Goliath butterfly is an enemy, they are in fact stronger than moths
Which would potentially lead to a butterfly Big Bad, offering a cool contrast to the moth Big Bad of Hollow Knight. Though I'm not sure how that would tie in to the rest of the lore (especially regarding the Void and Abyss civilisation).
@@Joe-cv7lc In the meantime while you're waiting, here's a math question. If the average human walks at one mile per hour, and the store is five miles away, why does it take my dad ten years to come back home from the store?
"William said Hollow Knight 2 wasn't coming out for the next 10 years, turns out he was lying" Well, as far as we've seen, it might not be, only 3 years left to go guys
Okay. The "Lollipop Guild" got me giggling. Solid stuff as always. :) Interesting take on the overarching lore: that the Weavers are being used by Jinn and Jiji's Masters to control folks. That's just convoluted enough to work. And are the Masters scared of Hornet because they know she is part Wyrm (as you said, demigod)? I wonder if we'll encounter Jiji or Jinn in Silksong.
Possibly due to Winged Assassin and demigod that has something there. I really hope but really unlikely we see The Pale King or someone or something that has a connection to him *cough* *cough Weavers. Also Lace is of course going to be important and maybe the ants too. Im looking forward to this grand kingdom (not as everlasting as Hallownest tho) and what and why is haunting them. Also looking forward to using buzzsaws. Also my favorite boss from the trailer is that giant one in Forest Of Bones.
I've figured it out, Domino's pizza's delivery app has a bell notification system to order their pizza with. Hollow knight: Silksong: The quest for Domino's Pizza
I thought it was also pretty cool how Hornet’s spider crawl at around 10:20 is the exact same backstep animation Grimm uses in his boss fight. No, I don’t think it has anything to do with him but it’s cool. I’m currently finishing up my first playthrough of Hallow Knight and I can’t believe it took me this long to finally play it.
Speculation: Hornet used her godly powers to temporarily seal The Knight that became the Shade Lord, that's why she was weakened and the weird bugs at the beginning were able to take her away. She was going to look for a cure for The Knight and ended up in that new kingdom. The masters of Steel Soul Jinn don't want to see The Knight return from the void as they are void beings themselves (maybe they look for new brethren?) and so send assassins to Hornet to eliminate her on her quest. Just some food for thought, I don't think this is what will happen considering my prophecising ability being at least below Nostradamus, but interesting nonetheless.
Tommy Burney Herrah’s mask has no line down the center, while the general weaver tribe insignia does (see the Weaversong charm for an example). Either way, as Herrah was the Queen of the weavers and Hornet’s mother, the connection from Hornet to the weavers still stands, and even if it was Herrah’s mask in the logo art, I still believe it could be used as evidence. But thanks for the reply =)
@@madengineerkyouma That's a perfect name! I think you would do zero damage but a lot of knockback like in Hollow Knight One, so that the main way to kill people is to knock them into pits, also I think the game should be incredibly hard in order to show how bad at everything Zote is.
@@magensens8898 What are you talking about? Zote is so powerful Team Cherry will need to make extremely strong bosses so they can last at least two hits from him!
i think hornet could only escape at that moment because they were crossing a bridge. if she used that thread move in a normal hallway then nothing would have happened, but on the bridge she used the thread to throw the carriage off of it so it smashed open at the bottom of the ravine, in the moss zone.
This might sound stupid, but could it be a prequel? The trailer mentions learning skills while showing things that Hornet already used in the first game. It would also explain why hornet was weak enough to get captured, and why the ending of hollow knight seems impossible to link to this one
Team Cherry said this was a sequel and this story can be canon in either the Embrace The Void endings or the Dream No More ending. In those endings, Hallownest is safe from the Radiance for good and Hornet isn't dead.
Would be awesome if there was a new game after this one that you play as Zote ,but instead of starting weak and gain new skill you started overpowered but as you play you start to age and lost your skills until you became a old grumpy guy that doesn't accept his own age until the point you fight five giant fly's and after you defeat the last of one ,a new one almost kill you but then a strange looking beetle saves you and goes away without say anything . 100% Original Idea
@@doommachine4873 there is a game like this already ,I never played before but is a souls like in combat but with the premises of shadow of Colossus where all enemies are bosses.
@@slimboarder.o7 Purple was actually a color to denote royalty in medieval and early modern times. Only after French revolution it was started to be seen as an evil color.
10:40 My theory is that Hornet's silk is actually made of soul. You see, soul is the stuff that animates life, which is why you gain soul for killing enemies. So if you gain silk for killing enemies in Silksong, that can only mean that the silk is made of soul. This also explains how the weavers were able to weave spells using silk.
Or, solution that could give a more plausible explaination (autocorrect is going whack, sorry for the mistakes if there's any) about the spool design of the jauge, is that just like soul totem, silk can conduct soul ( *sudden lightbulb moment* like water conduct electricity!), at least enough to be used just like spells. Talking of spells... they're concentrated soul, right? *thinks and then facepalm* Omg I just remembered, Hornet's thread SHINE LIKE THE DUMB GOD DAMN SPELLS!!!! *faceplant on the table* I can't believe I missed that detail for so long... I'm stupid sometimes. Anyway, just wanted to reply with what your comment inspired me. Either it (the thread) is made of soul or simply conducts it, I am sure there will be enough evidence to prove both true. Ps : would be cool seeing something like Hornet healing a big bad injury in a cutscene using some thread she'd wrap around her injured limb and either get absorbed (thread made of soul if that's how it works) or slowly lose its glow (if it's my theory that works, even tho I'm starting to have some doubts about how she can have so much thread on her without her cloths inflating and her looking like a baloon lol).
Also, when hornet strikes an enemy while she has full silk, they emit the soul particle effect instead of the silk particle effect. Which I think implies that when she is low on silk, the soul is woven into silk upon hit, but since she doesn't need silk atm, there's no need to do this so it remains as default soul.
@Demented Duskull I didn't even noticed that! And that could (maybe, I dunno) explain how weavers could both create weapons, shields, stories AND spells with their silk (like, who in their right mind would smash someone on the head with a quote on quote "book" made of silk?). Their stories were surely just woven forms and patterns that the weavers were able to understand, it might've been the wingdings of the Hollow Knight universe, like, just a thing that's really hard to read but that anyone could still learn. For the shields, I think they simply used some sort of stickier silk to consolidate them and make them sturdier, a bit like how clay must dry to harden. I think it might've been a similar concept for making weapons, they most likely just made the inside with normal silk which they glued together with stickier one, then hardened the outer part of the weapon to actually give it some potential to hurt thanks to some mysterious technique. Now, if only higher beings can harness the power of soul, then how could the weavers create spells? That's the dodgy part. So far we only know of higher beings (and some bugs who researched soul and how to manipulate it but we know what happened, they went kinda crazy) being able to use it (at least while still keeping their mind intact despite the infection roaming around). Did some higher being ruled Deepnest before Hera? Was it the Trilobite we see a shrine for? Was the knowledge of imbuing objects with soul passed on from ruler to ruler in the small hint of community that exists there? If so, then who originally gave the weavers such knowledge? It can't be the Pale King, since he kinda messed things up and only had Hornet with Hera so she could become the third dreamer. There's the possibility that the White Lady, Hera and Vespa might've been friends before, since Hornet has been raised by each of them, so in this case maybe it was less of an accord between the three queens and more of a bond that manifested in each of them helping the others in the princess' education and raising (like shared custody if you will, Hera might've started to learn to her daughter how the society of Deepnest worked, White Lady probably taught her democracy and the ways politics worked in Hallownest as well as teach her correct manners (notice how she never says a bad word during the whole game and never make some kind of disrespectful gesture to us) and Vespa took care of Hornet's training and took care of giving her values such as honor and respect as well as to know when to accept defeat or fight until the end, I guess that sometime shortly after Hera went to sleep Vespa passed away and Hornet barely visited the White Lady anymore, then Dryia died and Hornet just wouldn't take the risk anymore to come see the queen, eventually we passed by and just savagely killed Hera in her sleep, whoo boy, sounds like Hornet had it rough), so maybe Hera and the weavers (or Hera's ancestor, White Lady could be generations older then Hera for all we know!) were taught how to harness soul in their silk by the White Lady in a time prior to the events of the game, maybe even way before the Wyrm died and reincarnated as the Pale King. Another candidate is Unn, but I don't really think it makes sense. Sure, the Queen's Gardens are the only thing separating Greenpath from Deepnest and it might've been once part of Greenpath, but I don't feel like such a shy creature as Unn (plus she may powerful, but for all we know she might just be that, powerful enough to have claimed a piece of the kingdom as her's and that's all, she may not even be a higher being!) would blatantly come to Deepnest and say "excuse me, wanna learn how to use a deadly vital fluid? okay then", nah, also she would have to swim and crawl all over the small passages of Deepnest, try imagining a giant slug making it way to the distant village, Unn would be stuck a long way before she even crossed the first room!!! The Wyrm is at the opposite side of the frigging kingdom, so that's a huge no-no. Abyss creature? I don't know, it looks like something that really just don't want to be bothered. Radiance? Meh, who knows, we only know she created the moth tribe and went all peaceful and stuff before Pale King fucked shit up and knocked the fan over with said shit at least once with every powerful being that had made their home in Hallownest and about three time with Radiance, once by stealing her followers, another time by sealing her away in the dream realm and finally physically incapacitating her by sealing her physical body in the Hollow Knight's own dream realm or part of the dream world. No wonder she's mad as hell! So right now we have disqualified Unn (fatty), Wyrm (ded), Pale King (asshole) and Abyss creature (don't give a fuck about what's going on in Hallownest). Possible candidate still on the list are White Lady (she also look like the kind of person who likes to help people), Radiance (she was a little cutie until Pale King messed up everything) and a possible unknown higher being that might've once ruled Deepnest, either the trilobite the shrine is dedicated to or some unknown bug, maybe an ancestor of Hera and the weavers. Phew, that was a lot to go through, sorry for any mistakes, Google chrome doesn't recognise English so I might have to go back in explorer and correct this. (just done like 1 minute after posting the reply lol)
"Remember when William said hollowknight 2 wouldn't come out for another ten years, well it turns out he was lying right to our faces, it won't be out for another 50. I can't believeI trusted you William, never again"
So a little more discussion: I personally believe that the shining citadel, the steel hunters, the silk and song, and the pale flowers from the first game are all connected.
I think that Silksong wont have a corpse run mechanic since the game apparently doesn't keep track of how much money you have - implying that there is no money to spend. Rosaries are likely just crafting materials.
Great video! I had this crazy theory about a succession crises in this new kingdom caused by their founding pale being dying and Hornet, as a daughter of the last pale being, having a claim to the throne splitting the bugs into those who want to force Hornet to be their ruler and those who have their own candidate for the throne and want Hornet dead. Meanwhile Hornet doesn't give a shit about all this and is just trying to get to the top to get more delicate flowers with which to purge the void, and as a result having to avoid both factions. Of course, your theory makes far more sense both thematically and in terms of actual evidence.
Well, Team Cherry's not going to be winning any nobel prizes anytime soon.
...I'm sorry.
@@weezards1014 hahaha r/wooosh ecks dee, im so funny cuz i use r/woosh when it's either clearly not needed or when i force it to make a screenshot and post my retarded meme on reddit hahahaha
-i fucking hate when people do this. stop, do it only when it's obvious enough and not when a person JUST DOESN'T FUCKIN GET IT AND SAYS THAT IT DOESN'T GET IT OMG-
Thank you for this blessing of a pun.
why r u getting pinned
Bad
RT though they totally should for the bro move of giving HK backers a free copy of silksong too.
AHAHAHAGAHAAH I JUST GOT IT LOL HA HA HA why
Hornet really is like her family. She uses silk like her mother, buzzsaws like her father, embarks on a dangerous journey like one sibling and stabs herself violently in the chest like another sibling
Ah Nice 😁 dmc5 reference love me some vergil senpuku
@@deeznutscragmiar6968 have I made an accidental reference? Idk what dmc5 or vergil senpuku is.
@@AshenDust_ devil may cry is literally 2 siblings reunating to stab each other with their swords theres even a joke that with every installment one of the siblings always gets impaled by a sword
@@deeznutscragmiar6968 I’m talking about how THK stabs themselves
@@AshenDust_ THK? sorry bro got no clue what that means
They're not just ants, Moss.
*They're Fire Ants.*
I didn't noticed it until now!!
They're spicy boys.
Youre wrong they are empire ants.
@@thecasualrace5650 You fool.
You absolute baffoon.
You think yourself a king? A god, perhaps?
I have stood atop the ziggurat, but in your arrogance you seek to usurp me?
You may be strong, child, but I am beyond strength. Beyond wisdom. Before me lays out the scraping horizons and of the starless abyss. You seek to challenge me? Then come forth and seal thy fate.
@@douglewis7946 For he is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Gaze upon his works, ye mighty, and despair.
Wait until the joke's on us and Silksong actually doesn't come out for another 10 years.
who knew he was right :(
Let me introduce you to Elden Ring
The game is a prequel... Duh... Not a sequel to hollowknight
HOW DARE YOU
Acer Name OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Remember when William said the sequel to hollow knight wouldn't be coming out for ten years? Turns out he was telling the truth.
Don't worry bro , only 6 years are left until silksong release 💀
We should’ve just trusted him and then people wouldn’t have been so frustrated 😅
I'm sad
I'm glad Team Cherry was nice enough to allow you to not live out in the streets by making an entire game for you to speculate about.
nah he would have just gone on to do teletubby lore
@@belamine9845 on that note, where is teletubby mlg. that was peak youtube
@@belamine9845 nah he would go to grub vore fanart creator
““Remember when William said hollow knight 2 wouldn’t come out for ten years” well he was lying.” Idk man so far it’s been pretty accurate
I’m so disappointed that my most liked comment is also my most depressing one.
Still accurate
@@igristheshadow8850 agreed
@@_peepee_ I hope
Lol I was gonna comment this.
I hope we get something in the E3
I want to be able to press a button to say SHAW
SPAM
EDINO
EGALE
Well there is a feature that makes you say GARAMA
How about a WHYFUU function?
17:29
Only boss you fight twice,
This is feeling familiar
Lace is getting her own game
"So, the Lace campaign ended up getting too big for a dlc as originally planned, so we're announcing Hollow Knight: Shroomspell, explore a vast new kingdom haunted by Spores and Magic!"
I’d play that
...but you fight Zote twice. Lace is Zote confirmed???
still waiting on hollow knight: Crystal guardian! :P
@@Vonias and instead of going up or down, its left or right!
”Giant belldings in the background”
”Giant belldings”
”Belldings”
That’s a double pun, buildings made out of bells and the fact that bells ding
AYellowShadeOfBlue ok that's a great pun
Oh god
im dead... good job
S t o p
belldongs
Team Cherry: *releases content*
Mossbag: *it's free real estate*
how much longer must we wait
Hahaha. . . Haha. . . Ha. . . "Releases"
No more releases😔
Please will someone tell me what that song is at I don't know what to put here part of the video?
It’s mossbag, not Mossbag😒😒😒
If I had to guess, I would say the true final antagonist of this game will probably be the blundering oberlisk.
Nah it’ll be a snail
@@vivian9744 Unn,but with a shell
I kinda want it to be a bird.
What if Silksong is a story before she went on an adventure to Hollownest?
Ethan Paul Cataritas no, it’s confirmed to be a sequel.
I dont think the whole "being released in 10 years" thing was a lie
Ouch
@@joacooy8754 I BELIEVE we are going to get silksong in 2022
please
@@DamageMaximo I don’t know yet, it’s been so long since we’ve gotten any news
@@DamageMaximo is silksong even real or are we just inside a dream made by team cherry to make us think silksong is real but in reality, it isn't
ITS REAL
Inb4 Team Cherry bases Silksong’s story on this video
CoffeeFields 101 plot twist they actually had no idea what they were doing and created the trailer to copy mossbags lore speculations and then be like “wow he guessed it right”
@@Ferraday Yes. That's what Coffee said
ShHhH
Now we just need a “Hollowknight Silksong DLC: A Tale of Zote”
*Accidentally turns it into its own game
As I've been saying for a while, the perfect title for a third game would be "Hollow Knight: LifeEnder"
NO
@Felipe #NerfZote
If zote had a game, It would be a puzzle one
"I think there is literal music playing these bugs."
*MUSIC MAKE YOU LOSE CONTROL*
*MUSIC MAKE YOU LOSE CONTROL*
underrated comment
@Sans no. 8 months later I feel like it should have more likes
Stop it.
Stop what
MAMARRE
The six people who disliked this are probably primal aspids
I am honored to be the 100th like on this comment
There's only two of them, but each one disliked three times
Also remember when Team Cherry threatened us with the idea of a primal aspid boss in the Q&A?
Please tell me that it isn't part of Silksong
@@ridori7376 shush dont entertain such ideas. Primal aspids are literally the spawn of satan just as an enemy. A boss is gonna make me rage just looking at it.
@@Shadex2301
I don't know man.
They might be fucked up enough to do that
What if the kingdom is owned and run by Tacobell?
Demolition Man universe crossover confirmed?
Every bug would be having a perpetual bad case of diarrhea
@@arnolddulay2273 Tacos out of bells?
hfcRed the fuck you mean “what if”
The one controlling everyone by strings is none other than an ancient entity of capitalism.
Finally, we got a game where you get to hear even more Hornet voice clips.
Cereal
SHAW
SHAW
E DOOR RAE
huh huh!
In Soviet Hollownest, music plays you
You mean Soviet Pharloom
In Silkhviet Pharloom, Void is hornet.
*Us
*Ayy another Comrade*
yIkEs ItS a Yo SiLkSoNg JoKe
"The Villain of this game is related to the color purple"
YES, YES, YES. Finally Waluigi gets to be the main villain in one game
He actually was the main antagonist in Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix
I didn't know until now who much I want a Waluigi boss in silksong
@@nicobychok1037 the power of mods.
William Afton intensifies
Player: gets to final boss room
In the distance “Waaah”
now we now that william was telling the truth when he said a game wouldent come out for anoter 10 years
Well. Maybe he ment that literally. There was an idea that 2028 would be it since it randomly appeared on steam. However we got told 2 months ago within a year so maybe not. (2 months ago is in reference to my comment)
The difficulty you may ask? Well it has a bit of a bell curve.
Hahaha! Brilliant mate! I wish that I had thought of that!
Truly an amazing pun
Nah more like sin graph where it gets harder and harder u til eventually you get op until you start doing boss rushes and shit and you want to die.
Go sit in your room and think about what you've done.
Noah Keck that was perfect
I think that Hornet didn't wait to escape, it just happened to her. Her eyes widened like she was surprised at what was happening. My guess is that once she crossed over into this new kingdom (by being close to the weavers or who knows what) something awakened inside of her.
I mean, obviously the silk is important to the game. So why shouldn't it play a role in the plot?
Nice catch!
To add onto this, it's stated multiple times throughout Hollow Knight that the only thing giving the bugs in Hallownest sentience was the Pale King's doing. Anything that left the kingdom would "relinquish the precious mind this kingdom grants".
I'm wondering if the only reason Hornet didn't escape earlier is because she became lifeless after leaving the outskirts of the kingdom, until something gave her sentience again...
That, or Hornet ASKED the bugs to carry her to the other kingdom, knowing she couldn't make it herself.
@@hyperspades I had the same thought!
The knowlege of the buzsaw
12:46 Hollow Knight must’ve taught her it’s ways
What do yo- oh yeah, that.
Yeah, it taught her good
The little ghost: * murders possesed bugs to cure a plage *
Hornet: **KILLS ENTIRE KINDOM OF PACIFISTS TO COME TO A HOUSE**
SHAW!!!
Hornet: it wasn't my fault, officer, they just didn't git gud
GALAMA!!!
@@pamplemoo Holy shift how are my smol dark bean and my KILLING MACHINE waifu related like their both the place kings children
@@strawberry_silk3364 what
basically what i thought was:
the land is haunted by silk and song, so they need to use stuff to keep silk and song away from them. for song they keep bells around, so they always have sound around them, for silk, notice how some enemies have crochet needles, and some scissors? i think they might use that to keep the silk at bay. or something like that
"haunted by silk and song" - when you mentioned puppets and their masters, isn't there another expression for following someone's orders? like: "playing to the master's tunes"? i think that the Weavers were rulers in that kingdom, like the Pale King (he was Wyrm before getting new form), and Radiance before him, but unlike them, they weren't forgotten - they had to hide in their own kingdom, leaving Hornet to find them and do something about it.
wait, Pale King did that too (Radiance was also hidden, although not by her choice)!
EDIT: Brandon Martineau, thank you for correcting me!
@@Larya26 Not meaning to be a party pooper but it is spelled "Radiance", not "radiation" lol.
Ps : Radiance's a girl. Also it's literally her name : Radiance, not The Radiance. Quote from Seer (again, the name of the NPC in Hollow Knight, not The Seer (who is a girl too, albeit i am sure she is a lot younger then Radiance, but a old lady anway to the Knight) *sigh* , I wonder just how many people has made this dumb mistake, Team Chery should've been more specific, even I was honestly a bit confused at first) : Radiance, I remember you. *essence out of the universe cuz why not, Seer can transform into essence, okay...*
@@brandonmartineau4591 It's alright, I was too focused on telling my theory that I forgot the important detail - her name! I apologise for the mistake, honestly!
@@Larya26 Eh eh, sorry, I jsut corrected a friend of mine's chapter and I'm still in "correct" mode so I kinda just spotted the error and replied without thinking XD
But yeah, at least you recognised you made a mistake, and it's ok. Also I kinda like that thing "following the master's tune", I never heard that one before.
@@brandonmartineau4591 It's truly alright, sometimes we need to be corrected! Also (since I'm lazy to edit again), it's originally "dancing to the master's tunes" - don't know why I wrote 'playing', but, eh, same meaning, different wording.
IT'S BEEN 5 YEARS! WE'RE HALFWAY THERE!
Fun fact, there isn't an enemy with sign of infection(Orange eyes) so the theory of the sound haunting the new kingdom is pretty good.
I wonder if that's because The Radiance got nommed/sealed by void or because The Radiance was a local deity which didn't have power outside of Hallownest.
@@android19willpwn Maybe the sound problem is caused(if it is real like I assume it is) by another creature powerful like the Radiance or the pale king, also remember that it is stated that the pale king had power only in Hallownest.
I feel like this new kingdom has strong connection to Tuners from Godmaster DLC. They were the only ones to use bells in the game, and since we now know that bells are apparently important I don't think that's just a coincidence
@@kontrol42 Nice one, maybe they are trying to tuning to a new powerful deity or maybe they want to use the entire kingdom as a tuning device
God, she's so goddamn *AGILE* . The movement looks absolutely immaculate.
that “powerful being controlling everyone with silk like puppets” sounds so cool and plausible
I hit the Bell for you mister moss
Bell gang rise up
@@Lmaxter500 lol k
instructions not clear, fell down pit into buzzsaws.
What the actual fuck. Why. Why.
I really hope they add a new mosskin NPC, and name it Moss bag.
A scholar
Exploring and seeking out every single bit of information it can get its hands on
A scholar who went all the way down to the abyss to seek not only answers about the void but also managing to get shade spells only to understand it better
A scholar that basically bullied the dreamseers/moths for the dream nail and their deep secrets
A scholar who went and "studied" (another "bully in the name of knowledge") the grimm troupe the second he acknowledged their existence
A scholar who tried its best to get access to the godhome in the name of knowledge
A scholar whose whole purpose is one and only:
*L E A R N E V E R Y S I N G L E D E T A I L A B O U T E V E R Y S I N G L E T H I N G N O M A T T E R T H E D A N G E R O R H O W M U C H E F F O R T I T T A K E S G O I N G A S F A R A S I N J E C T I N G T H E I N F E C T I O N L I F E B L O O D A N D E V E N V O I D E V E N I F I T K I L L S H I M*
@@miguelmialichi6367 i really like this concept and i was thinking about it some time ago. He could be a little bag with eyes we find and he is writing in his book, and then he can share lore with us about pharloom, i think it would make the real mossbag really happy.
@@FaptaA yeah it would be cute
Plus team cherry could even "hint" at "lore important" areas/objects/characters (etc) by placing him near them
@@miguelmialichi6367 now i thought about him crating crazy theories about some things, just to make some fun about some of the things mossbag says, but fitting in character. it would be cool.
@@FaptaA hornet is void?
"Remember when William said Hollow Knight 2 wouldn't be coming out for another 10 years? Well turns out he was lying right to our faces," Little does he know William wasn't lying
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I have nothing better to do than comment on a 4 year old mossbag video after the silksong delay
Ve got nothing to do but reply to Comments on a 4 year old mossbag video
One thing I see is that Shakra reminds me a lot, not of Cornifer, but Iselda. And we do learn that Iselda was some sort of a warrior at some point before settling down with Cornifer. So just putting that out there!
Yeah, just a theory but maybe she is?
That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw her
Another reason this game could be a prequal.
hopefully it's not a prequel, if it is I will like it a lot less
None of this lore matters, the only mystery that matters is.....
Who will bretta fall in love with now
hornet
She will learn to love and appreciate herself
@@hmmmooops Awwww.
Moss charger, obviously
❤❤❤
“Remember when William said hollow knight two wouldn’t come out for another ten years” well well well this is going to age well
Mossbag you missed something potentially big although kind of subjective! (but isn't that what your channel is all about?) About the moment of Hornet's escape.... Take a real close look at her face, as the threads coalesce around her. Doesn't she look... kind of surprised? Maybe the answer to your question of 'why not escape at any time' is that... she didn't. Somebody else broke her out; somebody pulling the strings from far away. That'd answer why she didn't escape before, but of course it just raises more intriguing questions...
Tiger_eye41 Maybe Hornet was deafet by the HK and then captured. Just speculating.
I think you're right about her looking surprised. I'm not convinced that she was captured in the first place. The "cage" looks like it might just be a carriage. Considering Hornet's royal lineage, and her connection to the Weavers, my theory is that Hornet was traveling to the same place the Weavers went when they left Hollownest. She may have even been sent for. This brings up the possibility that the "breakout" is actually an attack, maybe even an assassination attempt.
@@NinjaGidget I don't agree for three reasons, although I admit they are all fairly weak. First, she looks kind of grumpy rattling along in that cage. Second, it doesn't appear to have any doors. Finally, those cultists who carry her show up as enemies later. This final point could be explained away as them being under free will when traveling with hornet and being 'puppeteered' later on, but the fact that they wear silk masks implies they are somehow 'alligned' with silk.
wait dont bugs lose their minds if they leave hollownest, like quirrel? hornet lost her sense of self after being captured and forcibly taken out of hollownest, but regained it upon entering a new kingdom with a different wyrm type god to give the bugs in it sentience
Kelly Sue Hornet is part hogher being so i think she dosent lose her minde
I think Hornet has one of the best character designs I’ve ever seen, she looks so sleek and agile and badass. I still have yet to play Hollow Knight and yet I’m already in love with her.
Have you played hollow knight
@Cookie Cat what?
This guy is all about the surface level details, doesn't actually care about the substance
@@commanderleo yeah, after all, looks are important in a game no matter what people say
@@ttracs Gameplay is more important than looks though... And hollow knight delivers on both ends.
The reason silksong is taking so long is cuz mossbag correctly guessed the lore of the game and had to remake everything.
This is weird . Why do I enjoy every video you make ?
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Maybe because you didn't do enough video ?
first comment
@@CatShapedDonut *HAH!!*
Mossbag has simply obtained god tier
This kingdom is "haunted by silk and song"
A mild theory appeared to me when I've heard this line.
Right before watching this video I've watched the Vitruvian Grub video, in the video you have tried to speculate if there's anything more to a sidequest about them.
An idea that came to my head is that the "Grubs" are actually silkworms who can manufacture silk, or "Soul silk" , a motive that we've seen used all around the "Silksong" trailer. In addition, we've seen the grubs produce songs when the protagonist approached them in "Hollow knight" that can be linked to the song that's taking over this new kingdom.
All of this can also explain why the collector seperated all of the grubs across Hallownest at the command of the Pale King :
Because the Metamorphosis of the grubs will give birth to the creature strong enough to overthrow the Pale King's kingdom.
The main antagonist of "Silksong" might actually be the metamorphosis product of the cute grubs that we all know and love.
That's just a theory I came up with, I thought it would be nice to share.
Why would the metamorphosis overthrow the pale king ?
@@antoinemartin1389moths come from larvae, and one of the moths ascended into a god.
Maybe a Goliath butterfly is an enemy, they are in fact stronger than moths
Which would potentially lead to a butterfly Big Bad, offering a cool contrast to the moth Big Bad of Hollow Knight. Though I'm not sure how that would tie in to the rest of the lore (especially regarding the Void and Abyss civilisation).
Brian Machado what if we get butterfly Bardoon
Vore
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Omg what if they didnt lie about 10 years.... That would be so hurt.
Mossbag: *Makes great lore*
Me: Must be true. All connects. Great job
Moss bag more like mossdad
Because you only see him in video form?
My dad went to go get milk three years ago
@@Joe-cv7lc In the meantime while you're waiting, here's a math question. If the average human walks at one mile per hour, and the store is five miles away, why does it take my dad ten years to come back home from the store?
Charbomber because your dad is bad at walking lol
0:28 I don’t think he was lying
That didn't age well🤣
I don’t think he was lying (but even more)
It comes out today trust me
Silksong Trailer made me try the 1st Hollow Knight. I can see why this game has so much charm and love!
Just bring Hiveblood if you go to white palace and you’ll be fine.
I’m lying to you.
Same here!!!
"William said Hollow Knight 2 wasn't coming out for the next 10 years, turns out he was lying"
Well, as far as we've seen, it might not be, only 3 years left to go guys
This game will be great, but unless they somehow include Zote, it will only be a 9/10
Don't worry Zote will get his time to shine in Hollow Knight 3.
Plot twist for Hollow Knight 3, you have to play as both Zote and Quirrel simultaneously on your quest to retrieve the legendary nail, Life Ender.
@@sargentgrevious2518 And as I've been saying for a while, the perfect title for the third game would be "Hollow Knight: LifeEnder"
Just me who is worried about zote? He is ok? He is alive?
*felipe costa* he's Zote, of course he's ok!
Okay. The "Lollipop Guild" got me giggling.
Solid stuff as always. :)
Interesting take on the overarching lore: that the Weavers are being used by Jinn and Jiji's Masters to control folks. That's just convoluted enough to work. And are the Masters scared of Hornet because they know she is part Wyrm (as you said, demigod)?
I wonder if we'll encounter Jiji or Jinn in Silksong.
EY!
It you!
Did you see moar cowbell? I died then.
Possibly due to Winged Assassin and demigod that has something there. I really hope but really unlikely we see The Pale King or someone or something that has a connection to him *cough* *cough Weavers. Also Lace is of course going to be important and maybe the ants too. Im looking forward to this grand kingdom (not as everlasting as Hallownest tho) and what and why is haunting them. Also looking forward to using buzzsaws. Also my favorite boss from the trailer is that giant one in Forest Of Bones.
Hello fellow noob
“Remember when he said hallow knight 2 wouldn’t be released for 10 years? I can’t believe he lied to our faces” -Mossbag, FIVE YEARS AGO.
So... Hornet is literally the Queen of Deepnest,I am positive that will play a role in the story of Silksong in some way
Given she’s not a legitimate heir and the actual queen was still alive I do not think so
The Abyss is the King of Hollownest now~
@@Neuviletteiudexofmemes she is a legitimate heir and her mother is dead, so yeah, Queen of Deepnest.
Flipface4 But did Deepnest acknowledge her...? Do they even HAVE a monarchy in the traditional sense?
Demon Emperor Void Swag and this is assuming the shade lord didn’t devour deepnest.
Chaplain Conrad Also this
4:42
Unn's cous-unn will rem-unn u-nnamed for unn-speakable reas-unns which rem-unn unn-known.
I had a stroke trying to understand this. Nice puns tho 👌
'Unns cousin will remain unnamed for unspeakable reasons which remain unknown"?
Val- eri-ya yes
Oh fuck you
Well done
More like unn-kn-unn
He was telling the truth about the 10 years dude
Hornet: *sees big bell *
“Ok that’s too many bells.”
Thicc bell: DING DONG YOU ARE WRONG
go to the contact us! page on team cherry's website
just.. do it, don't question me
haha that's incredible
THEY'RE BECOMING SELF AWARE!
haha
ha
haaaahh
hahahah
hahaHAH
HAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAH YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY JUST TELL US
I don't get it
Instead of making vague comments, tell us what it is.
0:28 "William said Hollow Knight 2 wouldn't come out for another 10 years"... Sounds about right
The antagonist is Thanos
Thanosbell
THANOS SEAL
THANOS SEAL
"I'm sorry little one"
Hornet can defeat Thanos, even with the infinity bell.
This comment is really gud!
I've figured it out, Domino's pizza's delivery app has a bell notification system to order their pizza with. Hollow knight: Silksong: The quest for Domino's Pizza
The new flower quest! Deliver this pizza to the other side of the map!
(I'm sorry)
@@charcoalangel7536 **Spider-man pizza time theme plays**
New battle royale mode!
You're onto something
I thought it was also pretty cool how Hornet’s spider crawl at around 10:20 is the exact same backstep animation Grimm uses in his boss fight. No, I don’t think it has anything to do with him but it’s cool. I’m currently finishing up my first playthrough of Hallow Knight and I can’t believe it took me this long to finally play it.
1:53
meet Steel Soul Jinn's lost brother:Steel soul john
and his uncle Steely Dan
That made me laugh more than it should have.
@@Kuhekin *Dan of Steel
Is that a jojo reference bois?
@@TheQuilavaQueen You know it
I know this is unrealistic but i want team cherry to pull a pokemon crystal and have you be able to go to hallownest after you beat the main game
It would be really cool, we would be able to fight bosses like the Mantis Lords as Hornet, and see what happened to Hallownest after the ending
And defeats the final boss... The hollow knight.
@@Mangulwort it will be cool if you have to go to Edge of the kingdom where you fight Hornet and then the Knight arrives
Anyways, probably It isn't be the same Hallownest because that was the principal reason we have Silksong
this is team cherry we're talking about, we'll probably be able to visit hallownest and at least 2 other games.
Can’t wait to play Silksong in 5 years.
I have a completely irrational love for Hornet's walk cycle.
Hollow Knight: The game you thought was DLC
Hollow Muffin watch people buy silk song first,that will sadden me
@@ankluti1346 wdym
иιχ 175 WHAT DO YOU THINK
my comment means
it means it would be funny to watch some tard buy silksong before hollowknight
@@ankluti1346 well i have like negative 999 IQ so my bad
@@articdrugs1061 Well, at least you're honest, I guess.
Team Cherry: Silk song will feature deadly tools players can use on their journey
Players: haha saw go brrrrrrrrrr
You used Ecco The Dolphin II music, for that alone you deserve all the love.
Notice me mossbag-senpai
*notices you*
I'm jealous.
you asked and he did
Speculation: Hornet used her godly powers to temporarily seal The Knight that became the Shade Lord, that's why she was weakened and the weird bugs at the beginning were able to take her away. She was going to look for a cure for The Knight and ended up in that new kingdom. The masters of Steel Soul Jinn don't want to see The Knight return from the void as they are void beings themselves (maybe they look for new brethren?) and so send assassins to Hornet to eliminate her on her quest.
Just some food for thought, I don't think this is what will happen considering my prophecising ability being at least below Nostradamus, but interesting nonetheless.
Hornet is not even that powerful. She lost 2 fight with the knight and cant even fight the Radiance. Dont overcompensate her meager existence
the new spectre knight dlc is looking good
No King of cards dlc yet, smh
Still no pink skin dlc smh
@@GardenGD wtf is happening with this dlc anyway, wasnt it supposed to be released like a year ago
Havel The Ganker im as confused as you are buddy
The Weaver insignia is also on the bottom of the Silksong logo, further suggesting they have a major role in this new story.
Animated Mayhem At 12:05 the two crests are Hornet and Herrah the Beast.
@@burneyarts indeed
Tommy Burney Herrah’s mask has no line down the center, while the general weaver tribe insignia does (see the Weaversong charm for an example). Either way, as Herrah was the Queen of the weavers and Hornet’s mother, the connection from Hornet to the weavers still stands, and even if it was Herrah’s mask in the logo art, I still believe it could be used as evidence. But thanks for the reply =)
When he said hollow knight 2 won't come out till 10 years, he wasn't lying
i bet 2025.
Bonebottom jeans
I don't know if I should laugh or cancel my internet.
Boots with the silk (with the silk!)
Bonekinny Bottom
@@bunni2583
SHE HIT THE FLOOR,
NEXT THING YOU KNOW,
@@pangalaxy2885 SHOTTY GOT LOW, LOW, LOW...
Honestly wouyldn't be surprised if team cherry literally watches your vids for storywriting inspiration
0:29 I'm convinced that the game is finished but they delayed it just to spite mossbag.
HOLLOW KNIGHT 3: ZOTE THE MIGHTY'S QUEST
I think "Hollow Knight: LifeEnder" a reference to Zote's weapon, would be a better name.
@@madengineerkyouma That's a perfect name! I think you would do zero damage but a lot of knockback like in Hollow Knight One, so that the main way to kill people is to knock them into pits, also I think the game should be incredibly hard in order to show how bad at everything Zote is.
@@magensens8898 What are you talking about? Zote is so powerful Team Cherry will need to make extremely strong bosses so they can last at least two hits from him!
i think hornet could only escape at that moment because they were crossing a bridge. if she used that thread move in a normal hallway then nothing would have happened, but on the bridge she used the thread to throw the carriage off of it so it smashed open at the bottom of the ravine, in the moss zone.
That's a really sensible point
The game will be opened with the long fall yet again!
@@DeathKitta But will she do a superhero landing?
Maybe we'll have some kind of gentle landing like silk parachute!
Every time we watch this, we are 23 minutes and 22 seconds closer to silksong.
I YELLED when I saw your vid. Can't wait for your lore on Silksong in the future
This might sound stupid, but could it be a prequel? The trailer mentions learning skills while showing things that Hornet already used in the first game. It would also explain why hornet was weak enough to get captured, and why the ending of hollow knight seems impossible to link to this one
Team Cherry said this was a sequel and this story can be canon in either the Embrace The Void endings or the Dream No More ending. In those endings, Hallownest is safe from the Radiance for good and Hornet isn't dead.
What if Hornet got posttraumatic amnesia?
No matter how much I think of it. It always seems to me as a prequel.
""Hollow Knight 2 wasn't coming until 10 years from now" turns out he lied straight to our faces"
...
Ye
Would be awesome if there was a new game after this one that you play as Zote ,but instead of starting weak and gain new skill you started overpowered but as you play you start to age and lost your skills until you became a old grumpy guy that doesn't accept his own age until the point you fight five giant fly's and after you defeat the last of one ,a new one almost kill you but then a strange looking beetle saves you and goes away without say anything .
100% Original Idea
WillBordy Would actually love to see a game where it works in the reverse like that very interesting idea.
@@doommachine4873 there is a game like this already ,I never played before but is a souls like in combat but with the premises of shadow of Colossus where all enemies are bosses.
WillBordy Do you remember the name by any chance?
@@doommachine4873 I think the name is sinner sacrifice for redemption
WillBordy Thank You I’ll be sure to try and play it
Finally, they added ANTS. How you gonna have a massive underground bug kingdom and not have ants? Beetles don't form colonies!
“It oozes beauty out of every frame. Its a fucking masterpiece” favorite quote
What if the ants in forest of bones are fire ants?
FUCK
Well the Sealed Siblings ending probably isn't that likely, just saying
or the other 1 cuse didn't the 1st 2 endings have hornet as the key to the seal?
@@karls8103 No only the Sealed Siblings. The 1st dont even have seal i think.
"The antagonist is related to the color purple"
*you feel FNAF fans vibrating in the background*
Well purple is a color associated with Bad thing such as corruption but purple is a color used for Bad thing like purple Guy
@@slimboarder.o7 Purple was actually a color to denote royalty in medieval and early modern times. Only after French revolution it was started to be seen as an evil color.
@@Valla686 its associated with bad in games now, it was used for royalty because it was rare.
10:40 My theory is that Hornet's silk is actually made of soul. You see, soul is the stuff that animates life, which is why you gain soul for killing enemies. So if you gain silk for killing enemies in Silksong, that can only mean that the silk is made of soul. This also explains how the weavers were able to weave spells using silk.
Or, solution that could give a more plausible explaination (autocorrect is going whack, sorry for the mistakes if there's any) about the spool design of the jauge, is that just like soul totem, silk can conduct soul ( *sudden lightbulb moment* like water conduct electricity!), at least enough to be used just like spells. Talking of spells... they're concentrated soul, right? *thinks and then facepalm* Omg I just remembered, Hornet's thread SHINE LIKE THE DUMB GOD DAMN SPELLS!!!! *faceplant on the table* I can't believe I missed that detail for so long... I'm stupid sometimes.
Anyway, just wanted to reply with what your comment inspired me. Either it (the thread) is made of soul or simply conducts it, I am sure there will be enough evidence to prove both true.
Ps : would be cool seeing something like Hornet healing a big bad injury in a cutscene using some thread she'd wrap around her injured limb and either get absorbed (thread made of soul if that's how it works) or slowly lose its glow (if it's my theory that works, even tho I'm starting to have some doubts about how she can have so much thread on her without her cloths inflating and her looking like a baloon lol).
Also, when hornet strikes an enemy while she has full silk, they emit the soul particle effect instead of the silk particle effect. Which I think implies that when she is low on silk, the soul is woven into silk upon hit, but since she doesn't need silk atm, there's no need to do this so it remains as default soul.
@Demented Duskull I didn't even noticed that! And that could (maybe, I dunno) explain how weavers could both create weapons, shields, stories AND spells with their silk (like, who in their right mind would smash someone on the head with a quote on quote "book" made of silk?). Their stories were surely just woven forms and patterns that the weavers were able to understand, it might've been the wingdings of the Hollow Knight universe, like, just a thing that's really hard to read but that anyone could still learn.
For the shields, I think they simply used some sort of stickier silk to consolidate them and make them sturdier, a bit like how clay must dry to harden. I think it might've been a similar concept for making weapons, they most likely just made the inside with normal silk which they glued together with stickier one, then hardened the outer part of the weapon to actually give it some potential to hurt thanks to some mysterious technique.
Now, if only higher beings can harness the power of soul, then how could the weavers create spells? That's the dodgy part. So far we only know of higher beings (and some bugs who researched soul and how to manipulate it but we know what happened, they went kinda crazy) being able to use it (at least while still keeping their mind intact despite the infection roaming around). Did some higher being ruled Deepnest before Hera? Was it the Trilobite we see a shrine for? Was the knowledge of imbuing objects with soul passed on from ruler to ruler in the small hint of community that exists there? If so, then who originally gave the weavers such knowledge? It can't be the Pale King, since he kinda messed things up and only had Hornet with Hera so she could become the third dreamer. There's the possibility that the White Lady, Hera and Vespa might've been friends before, since Hornet has been raised by each of them, so in this case maybe it was less of an accord between the three queens and more of a bond that manifested in each of them helping the others in the princess' education and raising (like shared custody if you will, Hera might've started to learn to her daughter how the society of Deepnest worked, White Lady probably taught her democracy and the ways politics worked in Hallownest as well as teach her correct manners (notice how she never says a bad word during the whole game and never make some kind of disrespectful gesture to us) and Vespa took care of Hornet's training and took care of giving her values such as honor and respect as well as to know when to accept defeat or fight until the end, I guess that sometime shortly after Hera went to sleep Vespa passed away and Hornet barely visited the White Lady anymore, then Dryia died and Hornet just wouldn't take the risk anymore to come see the queen, eventually we passed by and just savagely killed Hera in her sleep, whoo boy, sounds like Hornet had it rough), so maybe Hera and the weavers (or Hera's ancestor, White Lady could be generations older then Hera for all we know!) were taught how to harness soul in their silk by the White Lady in a time prior to the events of the game, maybe even way before the Wyrm died and reincarnated as the Pale King.
Another candidate is Unn, but I don't really think it makes sense. Sure, the Queen's Gardens are the only thing separating Greenpath from Deepnest and it might've been once part of Greenpath, but I don't feel like such a shy creature as Unn (plus she may powerful, but for all we know she might just be that, powerful enough to have claimed a piece of the kingdom as her's and that's all, she may not even be a higher being!) would blatantly come to Deepnest and say "excuse me, wanna learn how to use a deadly vital fluid? okay then", nah, also she would have to swim and crawl all over the small passages of Deepnest, try imagining a giant slug making it way to the distant village, Unn would be stuck a long way before she even crossed the first room!!!
The Wyrm is at the opposite side of the frigging kingdom, so that's a huge no-no.
Abyss creature? I don't know, it looks like something that really just don't want to be bothered.
Radiance? Meh, who knows, we only know she created the moth tribe and went all peaceful and stuff before Pale King fucked shit up and knocked the fan over with said shit at least once with every powerful being that had made their home in Hallownest and about three time with Radiance, once by stealing her followers, another time by sealing her away in the dream realm and finally physically incapacitating her by sealing her physical body in the Hollow Knight's own dream realm or part of the dream world. No wonder she's mad as hell!
So right now we have disqualified Unn (fatty), Wyrm (ded), Pale King (asshole) and Abyss creature (don't give a fuck about what's going on in Hallownest).
Possible candidate still on the list are White Lady (she also look like the kind of person who likes to help people), Radiance (she was a little cutie until Pale King messed up everything) and a possible unknown higher being that might've once ruled Deepnest, either the trilobite the shrine is dedicated to or some unknown bug, maybe an ancestor of Hera and the weavers.
Phew, that was a lot to go through, sorry for any mistakes, Google chrome doesn't recognise English so I might have to go back in explorer and correct this. (just done like 1 minute after posting the reply lol)
she does kind of pull the thread out of thin air in the fights with ghost
Can't wait for Hollow Knight 3: Lace in the Shoe
(Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series)
Including the new Funky mode
365/5300 days part 3
"Remember when William said hollowknight 2 wouldn't come out for another ten years, well it turns out he was lying right to our faces, it won't be out for another 50. I can't believeI trusted you William, never again"
There are actually 2 bells of awenking. 1 in the church up in undead burg, and the other down below in blightown.
So a little more discussion: I personally believe that the shining citadel, the steel hunters, the silk and song, and the pale flowers from the first game are all connected.
mossbag: "Remember when William said Hollow Knight 2 won't come out for another 10 years, Well turns out he was LYING"
Me: well, about that..
You could basically just put Hype as a title and I’ll still watch it
MOSSBAG, OUR PROMETHEUS, HAS SPOKEN!
I think he wasn't lying about the 10 years thing.
I think that Silksong wont have a corpse run mechanic since the game apparently doesn't keep track of how much money you have - implying that there is no money to spend. Rosaries are likely just crafting materials.
For her escape she uses a lot of Silk maybe she needed some time to produce it?
Oooooooooh that makes so much sense
Or she needsd something to wrap it around ie the bridge
*ooh boy, this didn't age well*
Bones and lava?
**Intense Mario flashbacks**
Great video! I had this crazy theory about a succession crises in this new kingdom caused by their founding pale being dying and Hornet, as a daughter of the last pale being, having a claim to the throne splitting the bugs into those who want to force Hornet to be their ruler and those who have their own candidate for the throne and want Hornet dead. Meanwhile Hornet doesn't give a shit about all this and is just trying to get to the top to get more delicate flowers with which to purge the void, and as a result having to avoid both factions.
Of course, your theory makes far more sense both thematically and in terms of actual evidence.
This is actually a really neat theory and I hope you're both right!