The Characters that DON'T Deserve to be in Guilty Gear Strive
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2025
- Panda | Kizzie Kay recently watched and reacted to a 25 v 25 Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R event, and had to say some choice words about some of the two characters he saw in some of the games... See what he has to say about some of Guilty Gear's oldest characters - and why nobody should like them.
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That's pretty crazy that Justice players will do the same moves every time they get a knockdown. Hang on, I'm gonna look up what move Ky players do every time they get a knockdown.
It's not even remotely the same lol. Ky has least 5 options on a hard knockdown, more in the corners Justice has two at best.
@@khdean121 😂😂😂😂
@@Kizzie_Kay I know that original post was bait but I couldn't help myself. 😂
Shots fired!
@Omar Braydon Man these bots are really annoying, they aren't even good like tf is this, no I don't to hack someone else's instagram
The thing with justice is that your character either smokes her and it's a free win or it's no fun allowed for the next 5 minutes.
Kizzie “I’m gonna do a match analysis”
Also kizzie “OOOH, ooooh, oOOOOOOh!
Lmao I was too into it
@@Kizzie_Kay mans was doing rap ad libs 😂
And then, BOOM! Kliff and Justice are back as DLC (lmao)
Kliff is dead in GG lore. Which doesn't mean shit really.. but I doubt they bring him back based on that:(
And justice is already back into the waifu form, which i hope she would be playable in dome ways (and hope not as same as jack o)
And they bring robo kliff with rockets and lazers
I sure hope so
I hope not haha
You can see how hard Justice relies on bombs by her matchup table. All her matchups are 8-2 or 2-8 based on how much her opponent can just ignore neutral
As annoying as Kliff is to fight, he's just so cool. Even though he's "dead" in canon it would be awesome if we got Young Kliff as DLC just say Axl went back in time and grabbed him, I don't care. He turns young during all of his supers anyway, why tease us?!
Doesn't have to be Axl, Order-Sol was brought back to fight Sol and create an time anomaly by I-No.
You pulled the words right out my mouth.
When did kliff die in canon? Thought he just retired for real
@@RollingBobbyJones Kliff was killed during the Second Holy Order Selection Tournament
Prime kliff would just be OP
I feel like most people just want the rosters to be like Smash Bros regardless of how boring, cheap, or ineffective a character is. Having all Guilty Gear characters in one game could be fun but it's never something they need to do. In my opinion if they're not bringing back Characters in a fighting game then at least give us new characters which is why I'm liking what's happening with Strive
B-but you gotta have Sol Badguy, Order Sol, Frederick Sciencedood and Future-Sol all playable as characters or else it isn't a good GG game.
But yeah I totally agree with ya (kinda wanna see if they'd go balls out and make Dragon Install Sol a secret character though in Strive)
But the new characters are a fucking boring
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Eh I have a lot of fun playing both Giovanna and Nago. Both offer their own challenges and fun to the game.
Kizzie really did say: "Bro, we aint playing Gundam Maxiboost, this is +R"
Strike Freedom Justice
As a Kliff main. I gotta hold this and agree. At least let me get some Yoga in if my back go out
Lmao hahahahahahahaha
Kliffs Huge Sword is not compensating something he is missing. Its representing his Honor and Pride !!!!
I'm not gonna lie, I actually really like Justice in +R and I do want her to come back in Strive. If she does I do expect some changes, I don't think she'd be the same low-mobility zoner she is now and I'd be fine with that.
Don't forget GAMMA RAY🔥🔥
I need a shirt that says talk to them kliff
Robo Ky needs to come back though
Your limiting your imagination. We need robo order Bridget for strive
Robo-may and robo-johnny though
@@b1ackgamma With Dragon Install
Never feel bad for someone that play the "annoying character". They know what they are into, they aren't in for winning they are in for the rage of the opponent. They thrive on salt, and may be as well laughing when they lose just for knowing their opponent fought 8 times boiling with hate every second. (still like him tho)
I thrive off of negativity
I just think his big ol sword is funny and I like to swing it around... I don't play competitively sorry
@@Stadtfeldi neither do I, my favorite character on rev 2 is potemkin for God sake
LOL 😅.
@@guga5708156 is bridget on that list because I am a bridget main.
I worked with Jais at a prior startup company. He's a beast.
That anti air where all kliff did is keep his sword in the air had me dying by how sleep it looked
What can justice do? Dash?!
*proceeds to ex dash
Alright let’s see em do it again
*does it again😂😂
+R is the first time I feel like I'm clicking with a fighting game after trying/failing to get into them for months. I do have Xrd but after several terribly running matches in FighterZ (yes, I'm wired, my region is bad) and knowing that the Xrd playerbase is smaller but more experienced, I was discouraged from trying it. Here I feel like I'm learning something new every day and it's ridiculously fun, and the community is active, perfect timing. I'll be playing more fighters for sure now, and looking forward to Strive. Your vids help a lot dude, keep up the good content
i came for the oka-zee-may and stayed for the chat lmao
Foo played out his dang mind in this tournament. I didn't expect Pot to take so many matches. He made people look like they were still learning the game
Kliff is literally my favorite guilty gear character ever. My feelings have never been so hurt in my entire life on earth.
There's no way justice and Kliff will be in guilty gear strive. The only way justice makes it if they call her Aria and has Jacko's body.... But at that point, is it really justice?
If That Man is ever playable, Justice(or Aria) should be as well.
Are we really complaining about annoying characters in Guilty Gears of all things? Like, complaining about boring makes sense, but annoyance is basically half of the game.
Kliff's 6H is my favorite move in any fighting game
I genuinely want Jack-O back, but with a major rework. I like her design, but hate her execution
ahem
Ask and you shall recieve
Testament needs to come back
I came from that "look at me, look into my eyes" laughed so hard I cried easy sub
Tbh I can't imagine what Kliff would like if they released him as Strive DLC
Yeah honestly I am hoping for Zappa's return in GG strive
Fighting kliff makes me physicaly grow older
Really hopin’ Answer or Venom come back in strive cuz I picked them up in rev 2
Wow, just got into playing my first GGX2 game, and my favorite character (Justice), is called boring...
I had a feeling, y'know, that someone from the FGC was going say something bad about him.
You got bullied in school, huh?
@@datboiashy2957
Why would you assume that?
>him
@@guyfauks2576 wait wait wait
I just figured out that was Sol's girl.
Please don't slay me.
I want Jam and Johnny in strive, baiken would be the cherry on top
5:08 i feel that pain as a slayer. grabbing me out of thin air (bd animation) and give a heave smack
Faced a Kliff for the first time like yesterday, and his how easily he can oki is fucking stupid and his big damage and range, not to mention when i saw his taunt counts as an attack, i lost my shit like bro what?
6:40 I think a lot of us also just didn't like yrc and danger time
what's wrong with justice? act like characters in this game dont have gimmicks,.
"once you're full screen, what is she doin?" Bro, when pot full screen does he slidehead? when testament full screen does he trap? when may full screen, do hoops come out? act like characters don't have gimmicks!
@@CSLFiero do any of those characters have a taunt that can meaty or a standing overhead
I mean to me Kliff is fun if they brought him back as young Kliff he could compete with Yuki for big range man.
I absolutely love how annoying kliff is, the taunt having a purpose makes everyone more salty, I really hope he enters on strive, even if he is trash, because he is annoying by design and I love to annoy the opponent.
That's what I don't get. Why does a taunt that's useful make people salty for some reason? If anything it being a taunt is a detriment to the move. It gives the opponent a bit of tension, and can't easily cancel out of normals.
Any taunt in battle get people salty, kliff basically obligates you to do it, making people even saltier
You are everything wrong with competitive gaming
@@blackpants7385 taunt cancels out of everything wdym
I think the this is the prettiest I've seen Kizzy. I've never seen 2 characters make him like this.
I argue no GG character should be in Strive. :v
Agree
Based
GG actually stands for Giovanna Game
Thats how its feeling like tbh
So as someone who plays justice. I can understand why people would think justice's play style is annoying as all hell in +R (even if I personally enjoy it as someone who regularly plays zoners, but I will take an L here). the way her nukes are designed basically makes it so justice is playing a tower defence game while every other character is playing guilty gear. If justice ever does come back as a playable character, I'd make her more like sentinel from UMVC3. Her long range normals and mid-range specials staying the same but with a heavier focus on her actual hand to hand combat and aerial domination being her means of zoning with her grounded movement being complete garbage. An aerial zoner if you will.
She has a jet pack, she may as well use it. With her nukes functioning like nemesis's rockets. Fast enough so she can't have more then 1 on screen, multi hitting with decent AOE but small damage and only serves as a pesky poking tool vs other zoners as well as heavily telegraphed. She would still fall short against characters with faster normals that can rush her down and Of course her frame data would have to change to accommodate this. Hell she already has crazy MVC style air combos she may as well lean into them if you ask me.
I love justice. She's the only character In all of guilty gear lore I care about and really captures the entire point of guilty gears story, magic vs machines. I just feel like less people would hate justice if she could actually approach in a fight which is something I WISH she could change about +R justice because I freaking LOVE her combo strings. Justice as a character doesn't deserve the hate she gets, her play style does.
"We ain't stretching dawg" lol
Not Kizzy going in on both of my characters 😭😭😭😭 Subscribing off of the strength of this video alone lmao
Lmao yo marq you gotta play ANYONE ELSE MY BROTHER. I'll even accept a grappler 😂😂😂
@@Kizzie_Kay LMAO I play Millia and Venom in Rev2 if that counts for anything lol (in case anybody wants to play - JSB_Rev on Steam)
As much as we can all agree Justice is pure toxic...
their theme SLAPS SO DAMN HARD.
That gundam allegory*
Wait until my mans hears about tvc
guilty gear X on Dreamcast started me on the series. My buddy got ggxrd rev 2 and we play that nonstop now. But since buying accent core plus we noticed Kliff doesn't even seem to fit the gg style and we always make fun of him
Compared to the rest of the cast he just seems so... normal?
Old dude? Been there, done that!
Big Sword? Dude, half of everything that comes out of Japan has huge swords!
His two-colour scheme of grey and brown isn't helping his case either.
What are you talking about? Justice should be in strive. Why keep the pain to ourselves? Everyone should experience the 52 to 54 hit blue lazor of death on block. Sharing is caring desu yo! XD
My BACK DOES HURT! I was Trying DP! Pause man I think my pad messed up!
9:50 is the start of a hot new dance craze
What's this song called my man? I'm gonna need it
@@donalex6918 oh I have no idea
1:18 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH OHHH MYYY DAYUMM
So does this mean we can get Abba in strive?
Sad thing is, I love the design of justice and Zappa . I only found out recently that Zappa was really strong in the old games.
Which version are u talking about ? Reload ?
Come on kizzie you're killing me. Justice should be in strive!!!
She was important for the story of Xrd but got shafted out of the roster.
If justice goes, Sin shouldn't be in strive!!
I'll take that deal. I'll end my career for the people
@@Kizzie_Kay dedicated. You know fair enough
Anyway,give ME MY WAIFU ELPHELT BACK!
No
@@MLJ-zp3ju better yet, hell no
"Can you sign me to the Lakers?"
😂
Giant robot lady who kills everything she comes across, has a full screen dash, fast combos, and decent zoning. Boring? Dude, who the fuck are you playing against?
As long as I don't have to deal with fucking elph they can have whoever they want in the new game
Bring back my boy testament. My goth bf should be able to flood gg strive with ads goddamnit
Justice needs to be inverted. I know her as a rushdown character, not a zoner. But no, my enjoyment of Guilty Gear pretty much entirely depends on Justice being in the game...so to be fair I don't really enjoy Guilty Gear anymore so it's fine I guess.
Weird though that even after being hyper turbo nerfed in order to FINALLY be legal after all these years, Justice and Kliff are still too good.
this saddens me as i love everything about guilty gear. not that i dislike your opinion. it just hurts to hear is all. that your enjoyment relies solely on one character. truly unfortunate
Barney & Friends 😂
bro, justice is cool. I love losing the entire round by using omega shift just to fuck around.
Dude that Bridget vs. Pot triggered my PTSD bro. As a Bridget struggler the Pot matchup is pain. And I side Pot!
Its ok to have wrong opinions
lol testament and barney comparison
You do know Justice can't do anything aside from those 3 moves, right? They actively went out of their way to make sure she can't get in, lol.
I know 😂😂 they need to remove her on char select while they at it
@@Kizzie_Kay bruh, you can't take one of the only characters I can play away like that. I don't wanna learn the game, I just want the free damage. Lemme be toxic in peace plz, taking a standing overhead ain't even that bad bro. It's not my fault teabagging is optimal and, uh... honestly yea, she is pretty cancer lol. Love the character, but playing her sucks as much as playing against her. Not even sure what they could do different with her if they were to change anything
@@ashemabahumat4173 you love to see it
yo Kizzie let's run that Ky mirror bro
Im still wondering if he youtubed it
Justice deserves to be in Strive, absolutely. She's story-relevant and Aria is back from the dead. But you're talking about the move set of Accent Core +R's Justice, who is not only terrible compared to the earlier incarnations of Justice, but canonically isn't even the real Justice. She's a mass-produced clone of Justice by Crow who has bullshit nukes because she's supposed to be heavily depowered. The ORIGINAL Justice, however? Her moveset would be beautiful in Strive, and very balanced with the other changes, not overpowered like in GG1 and GGX and earlier versions of XX. Same with Kliff. As of Xrd, the "overpowered" versions of both characters would be a lot more balanced. The tournament-legal versions from AC+R are total bullshit, though. Fuck those two.
4:48 OOOOOOOOOOH DAYUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Funny thing is that I like playing justice but I don't like fighting her
They are not fun doesn't mean they are not fun in the future ，maybe Arc would do some stuff make them better in Strive
Justice is sick
I'm gonna banish you to the shadow realm
10:51 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is it my fault my opponents just let me get away with just 3 moves. ;P
Edit: you got a point, that's why her bad mus are all really hard, that and being a big body against Testament is pure suffering to beginning with. XD
bro please justice is the only one with inputs so easy even i can do it i need her in strive
Im literally the biggest asshole I know, so you know I waNT ELPHELT BACK BABYYYY
The first time i played GG was on PS3, and right away i picked Slayer not knowing anything abt the game. I mained him thought the series. Why is Slayer missing from Strive? Thats my all time fav character and a small reason why i didnt get GGS yet.
Can't trust a Sin main.
Put both of them in, consequences be damned
Lol the salt, careful with your pressure
Yo Combo Stream > Barney and Friends seems OD.
I think it would be cool if all the strive dlc characters where brand new additions. Strive is already pretty different, and the newcomers have been 2 for 2 so far.
Yeah I think they should do a spread with brand new and returning from games
I will have Justice.
*Laughs in **#Reload** Justice*
Kizzie start to hit the quan with them bombs..... Kizzy got quantum bombs oki confirmed?
7:12 SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
I really want Baiken. I know it's not going to happen but I'd really love to have Baiken.
To have, not to play, right? Like all the people demanding her return
@@filmsofficial8712 Baiken is still my main in Xrd Rev 2. I love playing as her. If she's as fun as she is in that one then I'll definitely main her in this one too.
youre insane if you think Baiken ISNT getting into strive. 100% jonny and baiken ez. also Luigi from Mario Tennis Ace.
You play ky i don't wanna hear it
Wait...would Jam count as a one trick?
Gotta have a brain to perform a trick
@@Kizzie_Kay 😂😂😂...😔
@@Kizzie_Kay As a Jam player, I approve this response. The Kizzie genes come with an insane amount of wit, huh?
@@MrMoises621 haha you know it
3:10🐐🐐
Well, you won't have to worry too much about Kliff and Justice returning in future GG games... because they are CANONICALLY DEAD
Supporting the boy
Kizzie, you make me want to learn to play GG
Do it!!!
Kliff for strive HYPE
Yes absolutly yes, saw the thumbnail, and I have to agree. game would be very legit if these characters were still banned. this is actually what turned me off after vanilla AC.
Lmao you dont play
They are massively nerfed from AC+ tho
@@uandresbrito5685 so what you're saying is Justice and Kliff are low tier?
@@NoOne-nf8cl No, but they aren't broken anymore, no reason to ban.
@@uandresbrito5685 they're aids but yes
This game godlike n all but r you going to make more rev 2 vids soon?
Haha I can
I mean they could rework the characters slightly so that they fix their flaws while still holding to their original movelist
Please hit 100k by christmas
I hope to the love of god that Justice never returns, I never really liked her
Don't worry, someone also hates your main and wants them to never come back. That's how it is with Guilty Gear. At the same time that some want Testament and Zappa, others want to never see them again.
Kliff for life
They arent even that good compared to other characters but man they just... Feel bad, idk