@@jimmymac2292it's ironic that you say this when this is an Xbox cope channel. There are a lot of "PC gamer" UA-camrs that suspiciously give their attention to playstation and Nintendo fanboys only. And this gets even more suspicion when you consider how unhinged many Xbox fanboys are, they would get hours of top notch material for their channel, but they don't, weird.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 I dont really know what you mean? fan boys in general are toxic. regardless of what plastic box they decide to simp for. I was a playstation gamer from the ps1-p4... dealing with Sony's customer service led me to sell my ps4 and not game at all from 2017-2020. bought a xbox for game pass. so maybe I am a bit isolated from what channels are what. But I thought the whole console war shit died out soon after the 8th gen
@@Looptroop98 that is if you cant offer any thing better if all you get is exlusives that means your prdouct is either genreic or shit again there is a diffrence with an exlusive feture like steam inputs that allow for controller support that no other pc store figure out how to do it and just locking games in a walled graden
The Playstation-Xbox console war is my new guilty pleasure. As someone who doesn't discuss platforms or use social media all that much to begin with, I kinda just assumed "the console war" was that thing Nintendo and Sega did in the 90s. I never could have imagined people in 2024 were making fun of each other on Twitter for just wanting ports, as though they were begging for amnesty from a country they just fired nuclear missiles at.
No, it ONLY makes money because it's on another platform. Even if Indiana Jones doesn't come out day1 on game pass, the Xbox sales would still be too low to return the investment.
@@1969MakaveliPlayStation fanboys have their own exclusives only because they are sustainable. If Sony lost money with exclusives like Microsoft does they too would go third party. However, having exclusives allowed PlayStation to be the winner of the race with Xbox. As long as exclusives don't lose money it's worth keeping them because they're always a selling point.
If someone is this upset by Indiana Jones coming to PS5 you need to re-evaluate your whole life. Find allegiance to something that actually matters and not which rectangle you game on.
I mean if they weren't keen on Playstation games going to PC then I cannot imagine how they'll react if Playstation games like.... God of war or Ghost of Tsushima going to xbox
As an xbox and pc player I only care about game pass, I get xp boost in valorant and all the games I want, everything else I just wait for sell or physical edition like a normal person. The amount of money I save by playing multiple 50-70$ games in one month is insane
@@theredguy4845Game Pass is practically everywhere. Smart tv 's, Amazon Fire Sticks, Laptops, PC's, boosteroid, GeForce, mobile and the cloud. XBOX Game Pass Dominance 💪🏿
@@1969Makaveli yes but now Xbox doesn't have the best anything anymore. Tango was a really good game And won awards now it's on switch, PlayStation and fire stick and pc. They don't own tango anymore someone else picked them up..that says a lot when a game wins awards and they say they want more like or but sells it lol
@@davidhujik3422 None of Tangos games were a success none. So from a business perspective Microsoft had to let them go. And that makes sense to me and I`m not in business, but I understand it. And Microsoft just started up a few new studios to make AAA games. You say they don`t have the best of anything. But I have to disagree with you there. Bethesda is owned by Microsoft and Bethesda has won many video game awards. And Microsoft has Raven Software, High Moon studios, Sledge Hammer studios, Obisidian Entertainment , Rare software, The Coalition, Playground Games, InExile studios, Treyarch studios, ID software, Undead Labs and more. And some games can win awards and not sell well case in point HI FI Rush.
There are a lot of things to criticize Xbox for. Yet people criticize Xbox for what is pretty much their most praiseworthy move. Multiplatform games. Because apparently games going to more platforms means the original is worthless and for no other reason.
Exclusivity did not mean this much until about halfway through the last console generation when PS started putting games out for the PS4. If exclusives mattered that much, the Xbox would've sold more in the beginning of the generation since they had more and better exclusives.
Boy am I glad I got away from Twitter like 7 years ago :3 The more people who are able to buy/play a game, the more money that company who made/published the game will make, which allows that company to make more games!
Honestly, I don't care whether the game goes exclusive or not, I just want the game to be good. Lord knows Indy is in need of a fun adventure after the last two movies.
Consoles are subsidized hardware for those who dont care to optimize their own PC. Its almost as if there are many reasons to buy a console for the masses.
As a Xbox player i see this as a big W for both Xbox and PlayStation. W for Xbox because we get it day 1, and a W for PlayStation yes they have to wait a couple months but they still get to play it. Xbox makes money and Sony will make money out of this. I just hope PlayStation could see what Xbox wants and thats to put all games on everything no more exclusives, no matter what people will play on what ever they like but we shouldn't be punished for picking what we like.
I never got these ponies logic. When Xbox games go to PlayStation, Microsoft gets the 70% of the 70 dollars while PlayStation gets 30%. So you are still supporting Xbox even if you play on PlayStation.
I love the idea that every industry, not just video games, has survived over the years BECAUSE they set their products apart with unique features and YOU (you know who you are) think you’re going to just come along and change that because you don’t know how purchasing decisions work.
My take on this as an xbox user, it doesn't trouble me, the game is still coming to my platform of choice. If everyone can enjoy Indiana Jones, then sweet
One company makes PlayStation. One company makes Xbox. No one company makes “PC”. PC is Switzerland. It’s neutral territory. That’s why it’s called the console war.
pc gaming - millions of games to play and the features nintendo - just like it. yes i know about emulators and such. this is my childhood and i get games and the system for christmas so why not play on it?
If the value of your device is only determined by software that has no reason to be exclusive other than for the value of thsaid device, the device is LITERALLY a pay wall
So hard for me to leave Xbox as my main console cause it has so many good features I appreciate like backwards compatibility and I can cross play games with my gaming PC
Is that the Plutonium mod? The H2M controversy has gotten me in the mood for an old school COD game, but I wasn't sure anyone was still playing them on PC.
shadps4 (PS4 Emulator) just made bloodborne run on PC at 120fps so.. give it a bit more time and we will have it running on an emulator flawlessly if this continues
Exclusivity gives the consumer much reason to pick a console over the other. It also helps the brand by selling consoles. Example if i played uncharted and like it, when the first trailer for the last of us released. Im more inclined to try tht game and cuz i liked what the devs did prior.
To be honest the more people that get or play this game the more chances we get of getting a sequel if the game is worthy of having one. The people complaining about this game going to PS5… Yeah they are not gamers.
The one thing I will say, Joe is leaving out from this argument is Nintendo is never going to let other platforms have their games Nintendo is always going to have exclusives
Tbh his logic is dumb he makes no sense as expected from a PC let's be honest Sony don't really need to send games over to PC they games sell enough on consoles as is they send games on PC to squeeze out extra money from PC Sony never does day and date on PC unless multi player games this guy is slow
@@kushgod3069what do you mean sony dosent do day on date concord helldivers 2 and the remaster for untill dawn are all day on date and so is that lego horizen game sony outright said all live service games are going to be day on date
Here is an analogy to describe how Xbox owners feel (TLDR: They are getting cuckolded and basically are being told "it's okay bro, let it happen."): 1. They feel like they are married to the Xbox ecosystem, so let's call Xbox their "wife." 2. They have committed to their wife for 23 years since 2001. They have overlooked the "cheating" A.K.A. sharing games w/ PC ("the boss" at work for example) because it wasn't a direct threat and really helped their wife's revenue and "household income." 3. Their biggest competitor (PlayStation, which is the "richer, better-looking, more well-endowed man") comes along and now they have to share their wife with him. The wife wants an open relationship, except she gives even more to PlayStation w/ higher framerates on the PS5 Pro, which Xbox can't do. Imagine a wife who won't go down on hubby but has no problem giving all 3 holes to another man for example! 4. Xbox owners get nothing in return and no advantages. PS5 is a much larger market with more powerful hardware than Xbox so they have nothing they can hold onto or fanboy with. 5. In the final stage of acceptance, the games ("children") they produce will look like the other man. In the end, what do you really have?
As a PC player I get PC games,xbox games AND PS games and as a an extra bonus we don't get dragged into the silly little console war sandpit that's full of cat shit
Idk why it even has to be a rivalry between Xbox & PS or Console vs PC. Why can’t we just all enjoy video games instead of trying to talk down on somebody’s fuckin video game system. It’s obnoxious
I wish the SuperSonics were in Seattle. Except they’re not Joe. They’re stuck in fucking Oklahoma! I didn’t even realize there was a want for an NBA team in fucking Oklahoma.
Sony when their exclusives go to xbox nothing One exclusive goes to PlayStation-ohh no xbox is dead The yakuza series (ps3 exclusive series) MLB Persona series Stray All crossed to xbox and no one batted an eye
MS is actually genius on this. They are making their games time exclusive so the xbox players can finish it first before it became available to PS. And they will be using those ponies as fund raisers by selling the the game in full price while xbox players will have the option to either play it on gamepass day 1 or purchasing the game.
Exclusives sell your console. If you can get people to buy your console then they will keep buying your games and other hardware/software. Your argument would be fine if Sony was just a software company putting games out like EA or SEGA etc, but the exclusives sell the consoles and that's where the real money is for them and not just in hardware sales. For instance, the PS2 was legitimately the cheapest DVD player you could buy at the time of release and the PS3 was the cheapest blue ray player, this was not a coincidence. They got people onto their systems and literally shut down their competitors rival formats. There is every reason to keep exclusives, if everyone can play everything, the competition suffers. Without competition we wouldn't get the amazing games 1st party development produces. If Sony or Nintendo thought making all their games multi platform would make them more money and improve their business, they would, but they don't.
The more platforms a game is on, the more people get to play that game, and the more money that game and the company that published said game makes. *This is a good thing.* Anyone who believes otherwise is genuinely stupid.
We already have one which is called shadps4 and from what i've heard somebody already made the game run at 120fps.. If this continues we will have a good version on PC soon
While Xbox have not made a lot of good decisions lately, a lot of this criticism feels completely one sided. There was a particular fanboy, the amazing lucas, who had a literal meltdown on stream when seeing Spider-Man Remastered coming to PC. And that's just one fully grown man. It seems like not many even cared about this Indiana Jones game before both sides became obsessed with the idea of it being exclusive or not, purely for the purpose to send shots to the other side
I think people are annoyed because they believe MS SHOULD be trying to attract people to their platform, especially in a time when Sony is doing nothing besides paying for 3rd party exclusivity. As much as I dislike the mega company that is MS, I hate the idea of Sony having a monopoly over the top end console market. MS lost a ton of market share last gen from terribly pre-launch PR, then wasted many years not putting out many games. Then they invested a ton of money buying up studios, presumably to fix that issue, only to falter right at the last minute. Right as their studios are finally ramping up & about to release these games they've been working on for all these years, they throw Sony a bone & put their games on PS... and at a time where Sony has offering next to nothing since Spider-Man 2 last year. Everyone who owns a PS5 isn't a diehard Sony fanboy, so it's reasonable to assume they could convince them to buy an Xbox too (no need to "convert" them & have them ditch their PS5s entirely). Combine that with Phil Spencer directly telling people Indiana Jones isn't going to PS5 & MS's poor communication allowing rumors to constantly detract from everything they're doing, you get a lot of negativity around your console. And you say the hardware should sell itself, not the games, but consoles are just delivery vehicles for the games. The differences between PS5 are so negligible. Controller preference, sub services, and... that's about it. Nobody is paying $500 just to access a sub service (even a great one like GP), and Sony charges $80 for basic online, yet people still choose PS5 anyway. MS offers much better backwards compatibility, often with tons of enhancements, but again, PS5 sells more anyway. So that leaves MS with 1 option - make better games & make more of them. But instead, they spent so much on ABK, MS leadership clearly stepped in & demanded more money NOW. Short term profit over long term health of your console. And the problem with that is it makes your console look pointless, which then will affect the number of people who pay for your services. Are PC GP subs enough to compensate if all Xbox console users disappear, along with their GP subs? Because we know Sony & Nintendo sure aren't going to allow GP on their systems 🤷♂️
I dont have a horse on this race since i play on pc and have xbox mainly to watch movies and play some inde coop games but i still get that if only one side decides to not have exclusives it means you have to havw other side to play all the games and xbox already have worse 3rd support than sony, so will devs look in future that xbox dpnt think their console sells enough games so why should we invest on there 🤷
Ur missing the biggest reason exclusives are key to consoles... 3rd party devs wont spend the time and money to develope software for ur platform if they dont belive ur going to do everything in ur power to grow that platform... how do u grow console sales? by making good looking epic games that works like ads for ur platform... Now i as a third party dev am confident that i might reach more players on said platform... we see this work in real time right now... games skipping xbox or getting delayed because the dev is concentrating on the ps5 first or only on ps5...
Please make a video on how pathetic wukong's console port is and show these console fanboys that PCs can have many a times better optimization than consoles.
exactly.. this is a disney IP.. disney want their share too and just putting this game on Xbox and Steam wont cut it.... i wont be surprised if the next Xbox Marvel game Blade will also be coming on PS5 as well..
Its more likely that people will want to play the game earlier so they will buy a xbox. If the game is super popular and everyone likes it and wants to play it. Then people waiting 4-7 months. Either way my xbox purchase seems better because I don't have to wait to play if I do want to buy the game on release. I honestly dont like playsation exclusives. So even tho playsation gets some xbox exclusives. It would only be beneficial to me if they all came to ps5 right away.
If ponys only realized how much their direct competitor having best selling games and most played live service games on their console instead of their own IPs doing that really messes with Sony’s bottom line they’d stop laughing. Ponys are celebrating the sling that MS has fashioned to put Sony’s balls in lol
I’m a xbox guy and idc if indiana jones goes to the ps5, why would I be crying like a little bitch just because daddy phil lie to me that it wasn’t going to the ps5????? That’s so stupid and embarrassing if ya ask me.
Actually it is ShadPS4 can currently run Bloodborne at 120FPS on PC with Shaders that makes the graphics even better!!! PC get's every console exclusives one way or another lol fanboy fear the almighty PC
Money rules everything in business, the more platforms your games are on then potentially the more money said company/publisher who made & distributed it can earn & make their business better by reinvesting in their business with the profits. Joe said it best (I'm paraphrasing): If PS users will not buy an Xbox console or sign up to Gamepass, then milk the F out of PlayStation and their user base by putting Xbox games on PlayStation's platform to make money off their competitor. Reality is: It'll be in Gamepass for $20 a month or buy it for $70 from the console's store, it will be sold on Steam/PS for $70. Long story short in a Mr. Krabs voice: Money, Money, Money, Money, Money. Also didn't some PS fanboys who championed it coming to PS are the same ones who said "They will not buy it cause the 1st person style of the game would make them Motion sick"🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Nintendo players beg for new games sony/ Xbox players have. Pc users are enjoying what we have. Xbox users might also have a computer. Sony fans cry over every little thing. It's like there never happy.
Ps guys that hate Xbox games are now 🧢 and buying Xbox games thus making Xbox more money and Xbox dudes that say they’re done and moving it ps or pc are going to spend $500-1000 just to start from scratch in their game library only to buy Xbox games again??? These ppl dont like saving money or playing games
Exclusives will be old trend soon even PlayStation will stop focusing on it because if they dont they will end up losing because lets be real most of their exclusives are not that good anymore and new ones dont seems that interesting plus even if you get Xbox games you'll still pay that 70/60$ while Xbox/PC players get to play it for cheap that alone would make PlayStation players change to Xbox or PC so to be fair the more PlayStation play the exclusive game the more damage they doing to themselfs
Hifi rush made so much money on PlayStation alone. Ive heard tango was.l bought out by someone else so xbox doesnt get tjat money. But if pc and PlayStation has to save indiana jones then i hope xbox can save up to save thier gen from what i hear handheld console?
Dude...let me enlighten you on the history of what happens when your games start going to Playstation 😂...why Nintendo is in a 6th generation powered portable corner of the market, no longer a serious threat (Nintendo is credited with a 65% marketshare due to Switch, Sony around 30%...okay...you know the real deal...Sony really controls 67 PERCENT of the market that really matters, next gen home consoles. Sony does triple the revenue)...Sega...Sony starts getting the games, your system goes EXTINCT 🙂. Okay? MS keeps porting their games to PS-and making money 😂-they'll be the richest FORMER console manufacturer on the planet 😂. Sony gets all the games, including MASS third party exclusives, and your competing system starves a slow agonizing death. You spend 70 billion...declare Call of Duty exclusive to Xbox, PERIOD. You're in a heated dogfight with Sony for market share. You don't just put up the white flag. PS owners never coming over to Xbox, I don't agree with that...360 era...many of them are forced to choose Sony, because many of the third party exclusives are held hostage there, for the $500 ransom payment. It's not because they love Sony, or they're some legendary developer. They are lemmings by nature. Once it's known that Xbox is the exclusive home of the pop culture phenomenon Call of Duty, many will drop Sony like yesterday's garbage.
PS children really overestimate their own value, I really don't care about any of their exclusives and them yelling in their echo chamber about how much they totally love the new spiderman has no impact on my enjoyment of PC games. Besides PC exclusives are just better, not because of exclusivity deals or other nonsense but because of ease of creating PC games and the technical value of a PC.
Very uneducated take. Nintendo sells exclusives. Pc does not have them. Nintendo "holdijg games hostage" is totally fine business. You need to grow out of this "pc master race" crap
“I’m a PC player, idc”. Yeah bud just because we can buy PCs doesn’t mean everyone can. Most people can only afford one $300-500 console. And when someone buys an Xbox on the promise that they will get “exclusive” games (Phil’s words, not mine), yeah they have 100% reason to be angry. Xbox console gamers been treated like crap and I feel for them
first of all a 500$ PC will perform great, maybe not better than PS5 and xbox but definitely miles ahead of series S and nintendo. Secondly, PC is much cheaper in the long run due to cheaper games, cheaper accessories, no need to pay online etc. When I was a kid, Everybody around me who couldn't afford powerful gaming systems had put together work PC with LP GPUs in them and then pirated games. This is before even steam was popular. only the rich kids got consoles and bought games.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat yeah most parents don’t buy their kids $500 laptops with integrated graphics or $800 prebuilt budget PCs. They get them a $200-400 switch, Xbox or ps5. Dunno where you’re from but that’s how it is in America and Korea
they already got "console exclusive" games just because not everything is exclusive forever doesn't make them disappear.. The same logic applies to Playstation of course.. Also if anyone has ever bought a Xbox for the exclusives while knowing they release their games day one on PC then that is your fault not theirs so "exclusives" is not the right word to use here. If these games come to PS5 on top of that and that somehow hurts your pride or you don't feel like you are treated as "special" anymore then that's your problem as well.
So you only do one sided conversations'? Next time why don't you ask me why I said "Xbox is bowing to playStation." There is more context than your one sided opinion.
I wish ppl would stop comparing wat sony is doing when sending games to pc to wat xbox is doing its two very different things xbox has to send games everywhere to keep the lights on due to them buying damn near 80 billion dollars in abk meanwhile sony sending games on pc is different because the games they are sending has already been on the ps5 for 2 or more yrs so they squeezing money out from the pc side so stop comparing the two very different situations
80 billion dollars means nothing if you’re a 3 Trillion dollar company. Xbox doesn’t need to send games to other platforms like PS5 if they want too since they already enough money through Gamepass every year. Reasons why they doing this to make more money while expanding the audience. But Indiana Jones being ported probably due to Disney
@@FeorgeGloyddd lol laughing at what u spend all That money to play kids games at high specs? Or just to beg for console ports ? Or just to watch porn at high resolution?
imagine fighting with people online.... to have a sweet baby inc game as an exclusive on your platform... as a PS5 user, PLEASE! I beg you xbox havers. Take it. Take it an NEVER return)
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As a primary xbox gamer, I appreciate your take and agree whole heartily. The console war stuff is dated and fanboys are toxic.
Wow, these are some of the lowest IQ takes I've heard in awhile. Thanks for the laughs.
@@jimmymac2292it's ironic that you say this when this is an Xbox cope channel. There are a lot of "PC gamer" UA-camrs that suspiciously give their attention to playstation and Nintendo fanboys only.
And this gets even more suspicion when you consider how unhinged many Xbox fanboys are, they would get hours of top notch material for their channel, but they don't, weird.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 I dont really know what you mean? fan boys in general are toxic. regardless of what plastic box they decide to simp for. I was a playstation gamer from the ps1-p4... dealing with Sony's customer service led me to sell my ps4 and not game at all from 2017-2020. bought a xbox for game pass. so maybe I am a bit isolated from what channels are what. But I thought the whole console war shit died out soon after the 8th gen
"Exclusives are everything to a console", so remove the exclusives and the console has nothing? Accidently making a different point he is...
Lmao good one 😂😂😂
Well said
Exclusivity is a key element in business what are you offering that I can’t get out of the next
On this case he's right now exclusives makes consoles useless might as well play on PC. I dread to see the future of which PC is the only platform.
@@Looptroop98 that is if you cant offer any thing better if all you get is exlusives that means your prdouct is either genreic or shit
again there is a diffrence with an exlusive feture like steam inputs that allow for controller support that no other pc store figure out how to do it and just locking games in a walled graden
The Playstation-Xbox console war is my new guilty pleasure. As someone who doesn't discuss platforms or use social media all that much to begin with, I kinda just assumed "the console war" was that thing Nintendo and Sega did in the 90s.
I never could have imagined people in 2024 were making fun of each other on Twitter for just wanting ports, as though they were begging for amnesty from a country they just fired nuclear missiles at.
I love listening to Xbugs and Pony's go back n forth too😂, I don't care where games come from just enjoy them
They don't seem to understand that the game being on a different platform still makes the publisher money.
Which is Bethesda and they are owned by Microsoft, so every copy of Indiana Jones sold on PS5 will make Microsoft money.
@@CaptainB1994 exactly
@@CaptainB1994 But PlayStation fanboys don't wanna hear about that part. Or they don't want to believe it.
No, it ONLY makes money because it's on another platform. Even if Indiana Jones doesn't come out day1 on game pass, the Xbox sales would still be too low to return the investment.
@@1969MakaveliPlayStation fanboys have their own exclusives only because they are sustainable. If Sony lost money with exclusives like Microsoft does they too would go third party.
However, having exclusives allowed PlayStation to be the winner of the race with Xbox. As long as exclusives don't lose money it's worth keeping them because they're always a selling point.
This is why I don't tell people I play video games...
For real 😂😂😂 a lot of gamers are just embarrassing. Especially Sony fanboys
If someone is this upset by Indiana Jones coming to PS5 you need to re-evaluate your whole life. Find allegiance to something that actually matters and not which rectangle you game on.
Preach dawg 🙏🫡
Glad I'll enjoy this game without caring which console it's on
"It will sell more than Xbox and PC combined". Brother, you're still paying money for an XBOX GAME.
Do you notice that these guys get more excited about Xbox games than their own?
@@guybie-1 For real. It's crazy and sad at the same time.
@@JordanPorter11207 Agreed
@@JordanPorter11207It's objectively untrue though
@@guybie-1Objectively untrue. We don't care about your trash games. We just love seeing you how you xbots react to it (badly) 😂😂😂
I really want to see that same energy come when PS exlcusives start going to other platforms
Nah they'd be crying
I mean if they weren't keen on Playstation games going to PC then I cannot imagine how they'll react if Playstation games like.... God of war or Ghost of Tsushima going to xbox
They would hate it and harass probably
They already lost there mind and changed the rules with Lego horizon.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318Just look at what happened when their games got put on PC.
More people playing games = Bad? 😂
Sony Pony logic
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Isn't that an oxymoron? 😂😂😂
As an xbox and pc player I only care about game pass, I get xp boost in valorant and all the games I want, everything else I just wait for sell or physical edition like a normal person. The amount of money I save by playing multiple 50-70$ games in one month is insane
Gamepass was the reason why I moved over to Xbox.
@@kingjohn1011Game Pass is on PC.
@@theredguy4845Game Pass is practically everywhere. Smart tv 's, Amazon Fire Sticks, Laptops, PC's, boosteroid, GeForce, mobile and the cloud. XBOX Game Pass Dominance 💪🏿
@@theredguy4845 Yes, but suppose he wants to play games on a console. Xbox is the only console with Game Pass.
@@VitalVampyr Not anymore. It's on Samsung TVs and now firestick.
>Indiana Jones
>Disney IP
I rest my case
Remember how the PS3s internet was free and no one bat an eye when PS4 started charging for internet use, yeah…
That's because xbox 360 was a good service so they figured PS4 would make a great service.
@@davidhujik3422 The XBOX 360 had the better multiplayer games 🎮 and the PS3 had the better single player games.
@@1969Makaveli yes but now Xbox doesn't have the best anything anymore. Tango was a really good game And won awards now it's on switch, PlayStation and fire stick and pc. They don't own tango anymore someone else picked them up..that says a lot when a game wins awards and they say they want more like or but sells it lol
@@davidhujik3422 None of Tangos games were a success none. So from a business perspective Microsoft had to let them go. And that makes sense to me and I`m not in business, but I understand it.
And Microsoft just started up a few new studios to make AAA games.
You say they don`t have the best of anything. But I have to disagree with you there. Bethesda is owned by Microsoft and Bethesda has won many video game awards. And Microsoft has Raven Software, High Moon studios, Sledge Hammer studios, Obisidian Entertainment , Rare software, The Coalition, Playground Games, InExile studios, Treyarch studios, ID software, Undead Labs and more. And some games can win awards and not sell well case in point HI FI Rush.
There are a lot of things to criticize Xbox for. Yet people criticize Xbox for what is pretty much their most praiseworthy move. Multiplatform games. Because apparently games going to more platforms means the original is worthless and for no other reason.
Exclusivity did not mean this much until about halfway through the last console generation when PS started putting games out for the PS4. If exclusives mattered that much, the Xbox would've sold more in the beginning of the generation since they had more and better exclusives.
Boy am I glad I got away from Twitter like 7 years ago :3
The more people who are able to buy/play a game, the more money that company who made/published the game will make, which allows that company to make more games!
Honestly, I don't care whether the game goes exclusive or not, I just want the game to be good. Lord knows Indy is in need of a fun adventure after the last two movies.
Indy needs another good game after Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb. That game was so much fun back in the day.
Grown men arguing over a plastic box.
They argue what the plastic holds, but who cares, why can't they just enjoy the game like the arcade days. 1 quarter is all it took many times over
Consoles are subsidized hardware for those who dont care to optimize their own PC.
Its almost as if there are many reasons to buy a console for the masses.
😅😅😅😅 Eat a Snickers, that just caught me off guard and I'm laying on the floor
As a Xbox player i see this as a big W for both Xbox and PlayStation. W for Xbox because we get it day 1, and a W for PlayStation yes they have to wait a couple months but they still get to play it. Xbox makes money and Sony will make money out of this. I just hope PlayStation could see what Xbox wants and thats to put all games on everything no more exclusives, no matter what people will play on what ever they like but we shouldn't be punished for picking what we like.
I never got these ponies logic. When Xbox games go to PlayStation, Microsoft gets the 70% of the 70 dollars while PlayStation gets 30%. So you are still supporting Xbox even if you play on PlayStation.
I love the idea that every industry, not just video games, has survived over the years BECAUSE they set their products apart with unique features and YOU (you know who you are) think you’re going to just come along and change that because you don’t know how purchasing decisions work.
My take on this as an xbox user, it doesn't trouble me, the game is still coming to my platform of choice. If everyone can enjoy Indiana Jones, then sweet
"been regulated to a hulu box" is one of the realest statements, i felt it hit me in my bones
One company makes PlayStation. One company makes Xbox. No one company makes “PC”. PC is Switzerland. It’s neutral territory. That’s why it’s called the console war.
"Ad read holler holler get dollar" lol
Indiana Jones is the game to raise pitchforks for... OK.
Controllers not pitchforks
pc gaming - millions of games to play and the features
nintendo - just like it. yes i know about emulators and such. this is my childhood and i get games and the system for christmas so why not play on it?
As a guy who owns both a switch and pc, it's pretty accurate.
This is exactly the right take, thank you!
If the value of your device is only determined by software that has no reason to be exclusive other than for the value of thsaid device, the device is LITERALLY a pay wall
Warthunder isn't free, the game takes a piece of your soul every time you play it
😅😢really, we feel less every time
So hard for me to leave Xbox as my main console cause it has so many good features I appreciate like backwards compatibility and I can cross play games with my gaming PC
Is that the Plutonium mod? The H2M controversy has gotten me in the mood for an old school COD game, but I wasn't sure anyone was still playing them on PC.
I know a PS exclusive that will probably never come to pc, it’s Bloodborne, cause no matter how hard we beg, we still don’t get it
shadps4 (PS4 Emulator) just made bloodborne run on PC at 120fps so.. give it a bit more time and we will have it running on an emulator flawlessly if this continues
Soon enough it won't matter cause it'll be running on emulators. Sony is just running away from that bloodborne money at this point.
Apparently it can be emulated now on PC
Exclusivity gives the consumer much reason to pick a console over the other. It also helps the brand by selling consoles. Example if i played uncharted and like it, when the first trailer for the last of us released. Im more inclined to try tht game and cuz i liked what the devs did prior.
To be honest the more people that get or play this game the more chances we get of getting a sequel if the game is worthy of having one.
The people complaining about this game going to PS5…
Yeah they are not gamers.
Don’t blame Machine Games for Youngblood lol that was made by Arkane Austin
The one thing I will say, Joe is leaving out from this argument is Nintendo is never going to let other platforms have their games Nintendo is always going to have exclusives
now ya making me wanna play some Plutonium BO2. Thx Joe
This man getting a lot of sponsors.
Tbh his logic is dumb he makes no sense as expected from a PC let's be honest Sony don't really need to send games over to PC they games sell enough on consoles as is they send games on PC to squeeze out extra money from PC Sony never does day and date on PC unless multi player games this guy is slow
@@kushgod3069 are you aware that good money = good? Like, you understand that the sole purpose of a company isn't to just stay afloat?
@@kushgod3069what do you mean sony dosent do day on date concord helldivers 2 and the remaster for untill dawn are all day on date and so is that lego horizen game sony outright said all live service games are going to be day on date
You’ll never catch me defending Xbox after the whole black myth wukong shebang
If you make anything exclusive you are leaving money on the table.
Here is an analogy to describe how Xbox owners feel (TLDR: They are getting cuckolded and basically are being told "it's okay bro, let it happen."):
1. They feel like they are married to the Xbox ecosystem, so let's call Xbox their "wife."
2. They have committed to their wife for 23 years since 2001. They have overlooked the "cheating" A.K.A. sharing games w/ PC ("the boss" at work for example) because it wasn't a direct threat and really helped their wife's revenue and "household income."
3. Their biggest competitor (PlayStation, which is the "richer, better-looking, more well-endowed man") comes along and now they have to share their wife with him. The wife wants an open relationship, except she gives even more to PlayStation w/ higher framerates on the PS5 Pro, which Xbox can't do. Imagine a wife who won't go down on hubby but has no problem giving all 3 holes to another man for example!
4. Xbox owners get nothing in return and no advantages. PS5 is a much larger market with more powerful hardware than Xbox so they have nothing they can hold onto or fanboy with.
5. In the final stage of acceptance, the games ("children") they produce will look like the other man. In the end, what do you really have?
Every game everywhere = better consoles hopefully 😅
As a PC player I get PC games,xbox games AND PS games and as a an extra bonus we don't get dragged into the silly little console war sandpit that's full of cat shit
Idk why it even has to be a rivalry between Xbox & PS or Console vs PC. Why can’t we just all enjoy video games instead of trying to talk down on somebody’s fuckin video game system. It’s obnoxious
I wish the SuperSonics were in Seattle. Except they’re not Joe. They’re stuck in fucking Oklahoma! I didn’t even realize there was a want for an NBA team in fucking Oklahoma.
Sony when their exclusives go to xbox nothing
One exclusive goes to PlayStation-ohh no xbox is dead
The yakuza series (ps3 exclusive series)
MLB
Persona series
Stray
All crossed to xbox and no one batted an eye
now i need to know where to get spiderman 2 for pc
"Exclusives are everything to consoles"
And what happened to majority of consoles that had only exclusives on them ?
Where is PSP or PS VITA ?
SONY in its own happy, delusional world; meanwhile, Microsoft, Tencent and others are slowly building up unstoppable forces
I did, I did hear your dryer. thanks for the vid, Joe!
I miss my gamecube
MS is actually genius on this. They are making their games time exclusive so the xbox players can finish it first before it became available to PS.
And they will be using those ponies as fund raisers by selling the the game in full price while xbox players will have the option to either play it on gamepass day 1 or purchasing the game.
Game pass is the only Xbox exclusive that really matters.
Console fanboys attempt to have a rational thought challenge (impossible)
giant corporations don't care about you. if they notice you at all, it's to laugh at you. stop simping for a company, it's pathetic
Life for ONE GAMErs hasn't been the same since uncharted ended
Horizon on switch is a lego game with a horizon skin, so not really the same thing nor is it being made by Sony.
Exclusives sell your console. If you can get people to buy your console then they will keep buying your games and other hardware/software. Your argument would be fine if Sony was just a software company putting games out like EA or SEGA etc, but the exclusives sell the consoles and that's where the real money is for them and not just in hardware sales. For instance, the PS2 was legitimately the cheapest DVD player you could buy at the time of release and the PS3 was the cheapest blue ray player, this was not a coincidence. They got people onto their systems and literally shut down their competitors rival formats. There is every reason to keep exclusives, if everyone can play everything, the competition suffers. Without competition we wouldn't get the amazing games 1st party development produces. If Sony or Nintendo thought making all their games multi platform would make them more money and improve their business, they would, but they don't.
The more platforms a game is on, the more people get to play that game, and the more money that game and the company that published said game makes. *This is a good thing.* Anyone who believes otherwise is genuinely stupid.
ps is a bloodbrone station but eventually we will have an emulator of it
We already have one which is called shadps4 and from what i've heard somebody already made the game run at 120fps.. If this continues we will have a good version on PC soon
MS makes Call of Duty exclusive to Xbox-as is their right-watch how fast gamers love affair with Sony ends 😂😂
and they dont know, that the next xbox running also steam games.
While Xbox have not made a lot of good decisions lately, a lot of this criticism feels completely one sided. There was a particular fanboy, the amazing lucas, who had a literal meltdown on stream when seeing Spider-Man Remastered coming to PC. And that's just one fully grown man. It seems like not many even cared about this Indiana Jones game before both sides became obsessed with the idea of it being exclusive or not, purely for the purpose to send shots to the other side
I think people are annoyed because they believe MS SHOULD be trying to attract people to their platform, especially in a time when Sony is doing nothing besides paying for 3rd party exclusivity.
As much as I dislike the mega company that is MS, I hate the idea of Sony having a monopoly over the top end console market.
MS lost a ton of market share last gen from terribly pre-launch PR, then wasted many years not putting out many games. Then they invested a ton of money buying up studios, presumably to fix that issue, only to falter right at the last minute.
Right as their studios are finally ramping up & about to release these games they've been working on for all these years, they throw Sony a bone & put their games on PS... and at a time where Sony has offering next to nothing since Spider-Man 2 last year.
Everyone who owns a PS5 isn't a diehard Sony fanboy, so it's reasonable to assume they could convince them to buy an Xbox too (no need to "convert" them & have them ditch their PS5s entirely).
Combine that with Phil Spencer directly telling people Indiana Jones isn't going to PS5 & MS's poor communication allowing rumors to constantly detract from everything they're doing, you get a lot of negativity around your console.
And you say the hardware should sell itself, not the games, but consoles are just delivery vehicles for the games. The differences between PS5 are so negligible.
Controller preference, sub services, and... that's about it. Nobody is paying $500 just to access a sub service (even a great one like GP), and Sony charges $80 for basic online, yet people still choose PS5 anyway. MS offers much better backwards compatibility, often with tons of enhancements, but again, PS5 sells more anyway.
So that leaves MS with 1 option - make better games & make more of them.
But instead, they spent so much on ABK, MS leadership clearly stepped in & demanded more money NOW. Short term profit over long term health of your console. And the problem with that is it makes your console look pointless, which then will affect the number of people who pay for your services.
Are PC GP subs enough to compensate if all Xbox console users disappear, along with their GP subs? Because we know Sony & Nintendo sure aren't going to allow GP on their systems 🤷♂️
People care more about where they play games than the games themselves. Damn shame!
Xbox deserves that love to from Sony and 3rd party games that are only on ps and pc.
Xbox will end uplike sega ngl
I dont have a horse on this race since i play on pc and have xbox mainly to watch movies and play some inde coop games but i still get that if only one side decides to not have exclusives it means you have to havw other side to play all the games and xbox already have worse 3rd support than sony, so will devs look in future that xbox dpnt think their console sells enough games so why should we invest on there 🤷
Ur missing the biggest reason exclusives are key to consoles... 3rd party devs wont spend the time and money to develope software for ur platform if they dont belive ur going to do everything in ur power to grow that platform... how do u grow console sales? by making good looking epic games that works like ads for ur platform... Now i as a third party dev am confident that i might reach more players on said platform... we see this work in real time right now... games skipping xbox or getting delayed because the dev is concentrating on the ps5 first or only on ps5...
Xbox going full sega :v
Please make a video on how pathetic wukong's console port is and show these console fanboys that PCs can have many a times better optimization than consoles.
I mean, I've been hearing that the PS5 performance is pretty similar to PC. It's just pretty sloppy all around right now.
People are forgetting that Indiana Jones is a third party ip
exactly.. this is a disney IP.. disney want their share too and just putting this game on Xbox and Steam wont cut it.... i wont be surprised if the next Xbox Marvel game Blade will also be coming on PS5 as well..
@@schikey2076 true. But who knows really
Not people, only the fanboys are forgetting. Indiana Jones is simply not microsoft property.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat yeah
@@schikey2076i dont see why blade would come as its owned by marvel
Its more likely that people will want to play the game earlier so they will buy a xbox. If the game is super popular and everyone likes it and wants to play it. Then people waiting 4-7 months.
Either way my xbox purchase seems better because I don't have to wait to play if I do want to buy the game on release.
I honestly dont like playsation exclusives. So even tho playsation gets some xbox exclusives. It would only be beneficial to me if they all came to ps5 right away.
If ponys only realized how much their direct competitor having best selling games and most played live service games on their console instead of their own IPs doing that really messes with Sony’s bottom line they’d stop laughing.
Ponys are celebrating the sling that MS has fashioned to put Sony’s balls in lol
I’m a xbox guy and idc if indiana jones goes to the ps5, why would I be crying like a little bitch just because daddy phil lie to me that it wasn’t going to the ps5????? That’s so stupid and embarrassing if ya ask me.
These people do not understand economics.
If exclusives were the reason to own a console, then why are the top selling games every year multiplatform games?
Bloodborne hasn't gone to pc yet.
Actually it is ShadPS4 can currently run Bloodborne at 120FPS on PC with Shaders that makes the graphics even better!!! PC get's every console exclusives one way or another lol fanboy fear the almighty PC
@@gardenstateboss ok, correction, officially on pc. I should have used better words, but I meant it hasn't gotten a pc port yet.
Money rules everything in business, the more platforms your games are on then potentially the more money said company/publisher who made & distributed it can earn & make their business better by reinvesting in their business with the profits. Joe said it best (I'm paraphrasing): If PS users will not buy an Xbox console or sign up to Gamepass, then milk the F out of PlayStation and their user base by putting Xbox games on PlayStation's platform to make money off their competitor. Reality is: It'll be in Gamepass for $20 a month or buy it for $70 from the console's store, it will be sold on Steam/PS for $70. Long story short in a Mr. Krabs voice: Money, Money, Money, Money, Money. Also didn't some PS fanboys who championed it coming to PS are the same ones who said "They will not buy it cause the 1st person style of the game would make them Motion sick"🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Nintendo players beg for new games sony/ Xbox players have. Pc users are enjoying what we have. Xbox users might also have a computer. Sony fans cry over every little thing. It's like there never happy.
Exclusive are kinda of an outdated concept
Ps guys that hate Xbox games are now 🧢 and buying Xbox games thus making Xbox more money and Xbox dudes that say they’re done and moving it ps or pc are going to spend $500-1000 just to start from scratch in their game library only to buy Xbox games again??? These ppl dont like saving money or playing games
Exclusives will be old trend soon even PlayStation will stop focusing on it because if they dont they will end up losing because lets be real most of their exclusives are not that good anymore and new ones dont seems that interesting plus even if you get Xbox games you'll still pay that 70/60$ while Xbox/PC players get to play it for cheap that alone would make PlayStation players change to Xbox or PC so to be fair the more PlayStation play the exclusive game the more damage they doing to themselfs
Hifi rush made so much money on PlayStation alone. Ive heard tango was.l bought out by someone else so xbox doesnt get tjat money. But if pc and PlayStation has to save indiana jones then i hope xbox can save up to save thier gen from what i hear handheld console?
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Dude...let me enlighten you on the history of what happens when your games start going to Playstation 😂...why Nintendo is in a 6th generation powered portable corner of the market, no longer a serious threat (Nintendo is credited with a 65% marketshare due to Switch, Sony around 30%...okay...you know the real deal...Sony really controls 67 PERCENT of the market that really matters, next gen home consoles. Sony does triple the revenue)...Sega...Sony starts getting the games, your system goes EXTINCT 🙂. Okay? MS keeps porting their games to PS-and making money 😂-they'll be the richest FORMER console manufacturer on the planet 😂.
Sony gets all the games, including MASS third party exclusives, and your competing system starves a slow agonizing death. You spend 70 billion...declare Call of Duty exclusive to Xbox, PERIOD. You're in a heated dogfight with Sony for market share. You don't just put up the white flag.
PS owners never coming over to Xbox, I don't agree with that...360 era...many of them are forced to choose Sony, because many of the third party exclusives are held hostage there, for the $500 ransom payment. It's not because they love Sony, or they're some legendary developer. They are lemmings by nature. Once it's known that Xbox is the exclusive home of the pop culture phenomenon Call of Duty, many will drop Sony like yesterday's garbage.
Drama , drama, dramaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just play the game. Don't talk because I have a headache from listening to console fanboys blab on day after day.
PS children really overestimate their own value, I really don't care about any of their exclusives and them yelling in their echo chamber about how much they totally love the new spiderman has no impact on my enjoyment of PC games. Besides PC exclusives are just better, not because of exclusivity deals or other nonsense but because of ease of creating PC games and the technical value of a PC.
Very uneducated take. Nintendo sells exclusives. Pc does not have them. Nintendo "holdijg games hostage" is totally fine business. You need to grow out of this "pc master race" crap
Xbots salt time
“I’m a PC player, idc”. Yeah bud just because we can buy PCs doesn’t mean everyone can. Most people can only afford one $300-500 console. And when someone buys an Xbox on the promise that they will get “exclusive” games (Phil’s words, not mine), yeah they have 100% reason to be angry. Xbox console gamers been treated like crap and I feel for them
first of all a 500$ PC will perform great, maybe not better than PS5 and xbox but definitely miles ahead of series S and nintendo. Secondly, PC is much cheaper in the long run due to cheaper games, cheaper accessories, no need to pay online etc. When I was a kid, Everybody around me who couldn't afford powerful gaming systems had put together work PC with LP GPUs in them and then pirated games. This is before even steam was popular. only the rich kids got consoles and bought games.
If you have $500 to drop on a console, you have money to save on a PC
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat yeah most parents don’t buy their kids $500 laptops with integrated graphics or $800 prebuilt budget PCs. They get them a $200-400 switch, Xbox or ps5. Dunno where you’re from but that’s how it is in America and Korea
@@FeorgeGloyddd kids have $0 lol
they already got "console exclusive" games just because not everything is exclusive forever doesn't make them disappear.. The same logic applies to Playstation of course.. Also if anyone has ever bought a Xbox for the exclusives while knowing they release their games day one on PC then that is your fault not theirs so "exclusives" is not the right word to use here. If these games come to PS5 on top of that and that somehow hurts your pride or you don't feel like you are treated as "special" anymore then that's your problem as well.
So you only do one sided conversations'? Next time why don't you ask me why I said "Xbox is bowing to playStation." There is more context than your one sided opinion.
Wolfenstein Youngblood was forced on machine games, and 2 wasn't that bad.
I'm going to keep making fun of you every time you cry about it
making fun of someone because he doesn't like certain games?.. that behavior belongs to twitter
@@Zy.Blurish are you speaking from experience or just the typical content creator defense force?
I wish ppl would stop comparing wat sony is doing when sending games to pc to wat xbox is doing its two very different things xbox has to send games everywhere to keep the lights on due to them buying damn near 80 billion dollars in abk meanwhile sony sending games on pc is different because the games they are sending has already been on the ps5 for 2 or more yrs so they squeezing money out from the pc side so stop comparing the two very different situations
80 billion dollars means nothing if you’re a 3 Trillion dollar company. Xbox doesn’t need to send games to other platforms like PS5 if they want too since they already enough money through Gamepass every year. Reasons why they doing this to make more money while expanding the audience. But Indiana Jones being ported probably due to Disney
He a pc player lol bro why your opinion matters then u guys want to be included so badly go play walk horse or something with that powerful pc
It’s just fun laughing at you people, that’s why
@@FeorgeGloyddd lol laughing at what u spend all
That money to play kids games at high specs? Or just to beg for console ports ? Or just to watch porn at high resolution?
its fun mocking pasents
@@jd2792and sure sure most of u don’t even have a good pc stop the cap man
To let you know that he is laughing at you fanboys, especially the PlayStation fanboys
Don't worry fellas, just like everything else Ms has done! Sony will follow suit later down as always 😂😂
imagine fighting with people online.... to have a sweet baby inc game as an exclusive on your platform... as a PS5 user, PLEASE! I beg you xbox havers. Take it. Take it an NEVER return)
I like playing games with minorities.
People need to go outside now and again. Us whites aren't more than 60% of the population
Double it and give it to the next person