Capcom and the Sega Saturn - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- The second installment of my Capcom and the Sega Saturn series. We take a look at the remaining games from Capcom for the Saturn platform.
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Opening 3D Logo By:
Jan Neves
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Episode Notes:
1. Games covered:
Marvel Super Heroes (1997)
Street Fighter Collection (1997)
X-Men vs. Street Fighter (1997)
Vampire Savior: The Lord of Vampire (1998)
Super Adventure Rockman (1998)
Pocket Fighter (1998)
Capcom Generation: Dai 1 Shuu Gekitsuiou no Jidai (1998)
Capcom Generation: Dai 2 Shuu Makai to Kishi (1998)
Capcom Generation: Dai 3 Shuu Koko ni Rekishi Hajimaru (1998)
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter (1998)
Capcom Generation: Dai 4 Shuu Kokou no Eiyuu (1998)
Shichisei Toushin Guyferd: Crown Kaimetsu Sakusen (1998)
Capcom Generation: Dai 5 Shuu Kakutouka-tachi (1998)
Dungeons & Dragons Collection (1999)
Street Fighter Zero 3 (1999)
Final Fight Revenge (2000)
Steep Slope Sliders (1998)
Wonder 3 Arcade Gears (1998)
2. All games captured on real hardware via RGB and a Framemeister.
3. The Japanese versions of many of these games are quite affordable. Vampire Savior is an absolute steal.
4. Music in the beginning monologue is Demitri's Theme from Vampire Savior. The ending monologue is the ending credits from Vampire Savior.
5. The two Dungeons & Dragons games are cheap on both Xbox Live and Steam, complete with online options.
Just wanna say this is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam. There's something very special about Sega and you do a great job of conveying that fact.
I feel the exact same way. It's a great niche and his presentation is straightforward, accessible, informative, and shot through with a real passion for the material.
Plus he obviously is a fighting game fan, so that's an automatic sub in my book 😎
Agreed. This is a great channel. Nothing flashy or gimmicky. Just straightforward talk from guy who genuinely likes Sega.
To be fair to the PS1 version of Vampire Savior, it did offer something that the Saturn version didn't have: multiple rosters.
For those who don't know, Vampire Savior was initially too big to fit onto a CPS2 board, so three of the characters from the previous games had to get cut (Donovan, Huitzel, and Pyron). Realizing that they could use this to their advantage, Capcom decided to pull a "Final Fight: Guy Edition" and released two more modified versions exclusively for Japanese arcades - Vampire Savior 2 (which omits Jon Talbain, Rikuo, and Sasquatch in order to bring back the three missing characters) and Vampire Hunter 2 (which has the exact same roster as Nightwarriors: Darkstalkers Revenge, removing the new characters introduced in VS). All three versions were compiled together for the PS1 as Darkstalkers 3, and this was the only way to have all the characters at once until the PS2 and PSP games.
The best thing about the Sega and Capcom collaboration, is that they teamed up on all these classics when they were IN THEIR PRIME. There's no better tag team in gaming.
Luu Sapphire Capcom knew where to put their development during that generation. Capcom knew that their 3D games would be best suited on the PlayStation (Resident Evil, Star Gladiator, Street Fighter EX, Rival Schools, Dino Crisis, Mega Man Legends), and that their 2D games would be best on Saturn (X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, Vampire Savior, Street Fighter Zero 3, etc.). The Nintendo 64 only got one Capcom game that I remember, Mega Man 64 which was just a port of the ultra disappointing Mega Man Legends for PlayStation.
@@gedaman
Precisely. If only Sega would have realised the same, and ported EVERY 2D sprite-based Arcade hit to the Saturn - plus sequels of the biggest Mega Drive games.
They really made a mess. Saturn was their Neo Geo + 3D, and they wasted it.
@@gedamanyou thought legends was disappointing after X7? Really?
Another quality video SLX!
Capcom also had much love for Dramcast. Hmmm... "I have an idea forming in my head"
It's already in the pipeline.
@@SegaLordX Wow, way to engage with your fans.
Your intro hits my heart, every morning I watch your channel the intro floods the nostalgia meter
Steep Slope Sliders is the best 32 bit snowboard game. An all-natural, BIG mountain boarding experience with a super cool director's replay editor that allows you to make Warren-Miller-like videos of you best runs! Love the channel. Thanks for another great video.
I really hope Capcom does a Arcade Only Collection someday of games that never saw home ports ever before.
Alien vs. Predator, Warzard/Red Earth, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, and more never got out of arcades. The only way to play them now is with an emulator.
@@gedaman Alien Vs Predator was rereleased recently.
@@goatbone Was it included in that recent Capcom beat 'em ups collection for PS4 and Xbox One?
@@gedaman I don't know. All I know is that it was on that home arcade console thing they made recently.
@@goatbone I checked and Alien vs. Predator is not included in the recent Capcom Arcade Beat 'Em Ups Compilation. I know the Capcom Arcade console thing you are referring to. That thing looks sweet!
Bro.....ur timings god like. I NEEDED something good to watch and slx dont disappoint
Glad you liked the episode. Thanks for watching it. :)
Sega saturn is such an amazing console. I discovered it like 2 years and immediately fell in love. Have been collecting JPN games since then like crazy.
What’s a lovely trip down memory lane. I remember every store I copped all of these from... The grade I was in. The receipts I still have. XvsSf being the most expensive at $74.99. 3 Wonders was my shit. Roosters original name is Midnight Wanderers and Chariot is part 2. At the time it dropped.. I moved on to emulation so I packed the Saturn away.. But I will never forget the moments it gave me
*The Play Station had loading times on their Classic collection! LOL Saturn owners are so lucky!* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Thank you for your time and effort in doing this. Well done.
Appreciate that. Thanks.
Loved 3 wonders in the arcade. Everyone else loved sf2 and i actually got picked on because of my love of this game... midnight wanderers especially (roosters or whatever its called in Japan )
Fantastic and top arcade game!
Yeah, I think Roosters is by far the best of those 3 games. great 2 player game.
@@SegaLordX Its a fantasy Metal Slug,before Metal Slug!
The music of this era is simply the best!
I love hearing your startup sound at the beginning of Capcom games!
So many memories and I still have all mygames. Thanks for the awesome content
Yeah Capcom had a good run on the Saturn, a lot of good quality stuff there
Amazing how Capcom was so good with Saturn ports. I have Xmen vs Street Fighter and It's one of my favorite games on the system. The 4 mb RAM cartridge was almost a miracle back them. Thank you so much for the nostalgia and the awesome video, Sega Lord X! Have a nice week.
I had a Saturn back in the day, and several of the Capcom fighters mentioned in your two videos, so thank you for rekindling these dear memories!
Another amazing video, i'll have to keep coming back to this one as i revisit my collection, thanks SLX
After purchasing, playing, defending, and enjoying SSF2 on the Genesis, it was EXTREMELY awesome to have a practically perfect port, plus it came with SSF2T!!! I was so impressed with Capcom with this move. Of course SFA2 Gold was very welcomed as well.
Street Fighter 2 games on the Genesis were pretty lousy just like the Mortal Kombat games compared to the Super NES versions. Everything was nearly arcade perfect for the arcade ports on the Saturn however.
@@gedaman
Check them again - the MD versions of SFII are really decent ports. MK3 is also a really decent port by Sculptured. The Probe ports of I and II are crap, though.
The SNES version of Super SFII is pretty poor. The sound is awful and it doesn't look too great. They clearly ran out of space on the cartridge. Really the MD version pulls its weight side by side with the SNES SFII games. They only messed up the audio samples on the Mega Drive.
@@TechRyze The Genesis/Mega Drive versions of Street Fighter II look like vaseline was smeared on the screen. The sound is terrible also. Only Sega knew how to make great sound and music for games on the Genesis. Every other game sounds awful with a few exceptions.
Freaking loved this 2 part series! Growing up with the arcades in the 80s/90s was awesome and loved seeing what Sega and Capcom would bring out. I had 4 of my best friends to play all Capcoms fighting games in the arcade and later at home on the Saturn until the early hours of the morning, it was amazing. I have all Capcoms 2D fighters for the Saturn, this machine embodies my early teens and the joy of gaming with my friends. Thanks SegaLord :D
Great way to start off my morning.
This has me excited for a Dreamcast Capcom episode or two now!!!!
Already in the planning stages.
@@SegaLordX Awesome!!!👍👍👍
Thank you. Sega Saturn was my childhood. Most people don't know the quality of these games. I imported ALL of those Japanese only games. Sega Saturn was region code free so they all worked with US Sega Satruns as long as you had the 4meg ram pack.
The Batman music is my favorite part of every video. As a kid when Batman would glide down at the beginning of the 1st stage with that soundtrack, I would geek out. One of my best weekend rentals ever. Thanks for the memories my friend. Can't wait to geek out again at the end of your next video.
Man, I was hardcore into Street fighter in that era to where I could beat it on 8 stars. I nerded the heck out of the difference between Saturn and psx alpha 2. How the psx intro was fmv and how zangief didn't have his cape...etc etc.
One thing that I have notice about SFZ2 for PSX is that Zangeif walking animation is different compared to the Saturn and SNES versions.
Alan Lee Although the PlayStation and Saturn versions of the Street Fighter Alpha series games play the same, the animation and overall presentation is slightly better in the Saturn just like all 2D games. Street Fighter Alpha 2 also had bonus artwork available on the Saturn. You also had the perfect arcade style 6 button layout A, B, C, X, Y, Z with the Saturn game pad.
With Street Fighter Zero 3 Capcom developed it completely differently from the PlayStation version and even the Dreamcast version. The Saturn version is the closest to the arcade version before Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection came out in 2018. Oddly Capcom chose to port the PlayStation version of the game to the Dreamcast. The PlayStation and Dreamcast versions were the best versions that the West would receive until Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection came out in 2018.
The difference between the Saturn and PlayStation versions of X-Men vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter are just night and day of course too.
@@gedaman
There's a Street Fighter Collection disc for the PlayStation 2 that I have, containing Street Fighter Alpha 3 and the others.
I can imagine it's better than the Playstation version.
I believe it's called Street Fighter Alpha Anthology.
I would have picked it up 10-15 years ago.
Man, did I miss out on this console! Great video - thanks.
I love playing Pocket Fighter with my kiddos. Such a great game!
I feel your pain, SLX! Two Capcom arcade games that I would have LOVED to see get physical releases: Alien vs Predator and Progear. They’re both on that new Capcom Home Arcade stick, but I don’t have that yet.
I didn't even know there were so many Capcom games on Saturn.
Probably because most of them never saw the light of day in the West, or if they did were released on the PS1 rather than the Saturn. This is understandable when you realise that in Japan the Saturn was actually more popular than the Sony PlayStation, whereas in the West the PlayStation pretty much trounced the Sega Saturn.
@@johnbowles5399 Saturn was more popular until FFVII came out, but for fighters it consistently dominated PS1.
John Bowles Yeah, but I own and collect Saturn stuff. I know a LOT of Saturn games but I’d never heard of a few of these especially the weird FMV ones.
@@alritedave Same here, I never knew they released FMV games on the Saturn!
*There are a lot and Konami games too!*
It was a great time to own a Sega Saturn if you were a fan of Capcom fighting games back then. The arcade ports using the 4 meg expansion cartridge were unequaled until newer systems and arcade emulation came along. The Saturn was the 32 bit era's 2D graphics juggernaut.
Dark stalkers 3 was incredible. Also, the song that played in the last clip with Pyron and bb hood is great. Bulleta in Japan? I never knew. Great content man. Thank you
Perfect Timing!! I am really enjoying this series!
Thanks Robert. Appreciate the support.
@@SegaLordX In one of your videos, you said you finally got a framemeister. I have had one for a while but wanted to know what you feel are the ideal settings for and LED TV?
Wonderful video. I was captivated for both entries. You're doing God's work slx
I had always wanted Cadillacs & Dinosaurs to come to Saturn with the 4MB provisions. It's a highly underexposed game today that needed to be on the Saturn much less any console in true form.
Pocket Fighter is one of my favourite flighters, period. The whimsy is right up my alley and it helps take a game from a genre normally taken pretty seriously, especially by the contenders, and just injects all the fun.
Pocket Fighter takes what would often be all the little details that give a game it's flavour and puts them on full display and mostly for anyone to see. Chun Li dressing up as Jill Valentine, or delivering a love note as a school girl. Even the mighty Akuma cannot escape the costume game. In fact the only character that does is Ryu, because that's the only way to make fun of his super serious nature.
The game is awesome. It's awesome that Capcom actually made it and it's extra awesome that to go with the Chibi look that Capcom made it an easy fighter to pick up and play, even the most novice of novice players could pull off combos and even special moves, with its simplified button and control system. However of course being Capcom there is more depth for those more experienced with their flighters.
Get this game where ever you can. You owe it to yourself and the player 2 in your life that doesn't play fighters because 'they are no good at them'
Excellent overview, filled with a lot information I didn't know. Shame a lot of games were left in Japan. I'm still amazed by the artwork, backgrounds and animation of these Capcom fighters, plus the amount moves. Dang, you're pretty darn good at these games. :D
I'm OK at most of them. My skills have eroded badly in the VS games but I am still pretty formidable in Vampire Savior and Zero 3.
Nothing better than a new Sega Lord X video dropping right after I worked a 12 hr security shift! Ohh Yeah!!
I've pulled those shifts man. Gotta wind down somehow.
@@SegaLordX Yes Sir! I'm sure you have! Thanks again from all of us for your amazing content!
Capcom Generations 5 for the Saturn in Japan. For the PlayStation I still have my Street Fighter Collection 2.
At first the PlayStation I had to tweak my button layout because just the Snes Street Fighter the PS had the fierce punch and roundhouse kick as L1 and R1 by default.
My custom button layout on SF Collection are as followed.
Square as Jab Punch
R1 as Strong Punch
Triangle as Fierce Punch
R2 as Short Kick
X as Forward Kick
Circle as Roundhouse Kick
Lastly L1 & L2 as 3 Punch & Kick buttons.
A little late to the game, but even though it's true that many of the Japan-only games never officially left Japan, GameStop took pre-orders for the imports and the RAM cart. I bought all of my imports from there at the time. People were also allowed to trade them in, which I picked up a few as well. It was a short period because it was towards to the end of Saturn's life, but it was amazing to be able to do that.
I didn't play a Darkstalkers game till about 6 years ago. Completely flooded. I'm not even much for fighting games and I instantly loved the series. Agree completely that its the best looking. Plays so smooth too. Absolutely love the characters as well. Wish Capcom would make a new iteration but could they get it right these days?
Merry Sega Saturn Christmas Sega Lord X!!!
Great series ! Loved it, but then I like almost all your videos 👍
Capcom with their Arcade Perfect ports along with Sega first party titles was one of the primary reasons I grew to want and love the Saturn. Too bad that ever since the inception of the hardware, that the Saturn was handled with so much mismanagement at every single level and office of Sega's corporate culture at the time. It could of been so much more if it wasn't for shor sightedness, ego and jealously.
Could have and should have! If only it would have ...
wth? most of this games are better in the ps1...
@@WhereThereDude: Only the 2D fighting games are better.
@@WhereThereDude - proven fact that the SS was not merely the superior hardware, but also capable of much superior software as well
WhereThereDude 3D games were almost all better on the PlayStation. 2D games were almost always better on the Saturn however. The Saturn was designed originally to be a 2D games only console until late in the development when Sega found out that Sony was launching the PlayStation with Ridge Racer and Tekken that Sega decided to add in 3D graphics processing at the last moment for the Saturn supposedly. I find it a little hard to believe that Sega had 3D graphics as a low priority for Saturn since they had just developed 3D arcade titles such as Virtua Fighter and Daytona USA only a year before the Saturn release in Japan, but it does explain why 2D games were so superior and 3D games looked a little bit better on PlayStation such as Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, and Die Hard Trilogy.
Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter actually had a major difference in the soundtrack. They didn't have remixes for any of the Street Fighter characters. Even some Marvel characters like Cyclops, Wolverine, and the Hulk got entirely new themes.
Enjoying your vids and making me want to get more imports for the Saturn. Keep up the content 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
New Virtua Stick (1996 version)
Vampire Hunter
Street Fighter 2X (collection)
Vampire Savior
Saturn was a dream for fighting game fans.
Hey @SegaLordX. Excellent video as always.I am enjoying this now. I have t ask though what does "tate" (ta-tay) mean? I heard you mention it a couple of times however I am not familiar with this term.
Tate is when you put your TV or monitor on its side so that it takes advantage of the vertical space.
steamcommunity.com/groups/tatemode
You're making me want a Saturn
It's well worth it. My favorite console mainly for the Japanese 2D games. 😁
Basically Capcom gave Playstation gamez like Rival Schools, StreetFighter EX, RE 2, RE 3. Dino Crisis , Dino Crisis 2, Plasma Sword, Mega Man legends. And Saturn got a bunch of Arcade ports ( which also came to PS) that was only released in Japan
You the man Lord X! Keep cranking out good content.
what an amazing support capcom did
Huge fan man. Grew up with Nintendo but these days I mainly game on Sega and Atari platforms. A question; do you ever worry about disc rot? I love Dreamcast but worry about my games slowly rotting away.
I think it depends on your local climate - my Saturn games stayed in excellent condition til i took them to Asia. Almost instantly nearly half of them began showing worm -looking marks ....
I've had a few games succumb to disc rot despite being kept in a environment controlled room and babied their entire lives. If it's gonna happen, I honestly feel nothing you can do will stop it.
@@SegaLordX Is disc rot more prevalent in Saturn Games?
It's more often seen in older games. Think Sega CD, Saturn, PC Engine, 3DO. The truth is nobody knows when it's going to show up. Sometimes the best kept games just get it. It isn't something you see a lot of, however. I own a lot of games and have seen it only a handful of times.
@@SegaLordX Thanks. I have a lot of Dreamcast games, so I wasn't sure if and when I would start seeing it in those. Unfortunately, I had a couple of XBox 360 games destroyed by disc rot (left 4 dead 2, facebreaker). Thanks for the info, and I enjoy watching your channel!
Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix was the name originally used in non Japanese arcades. The American PS1 still called it Pocket Fighter. It wasn't until the tree release on the American PS2 that it changed the name from Pocket Fighter outside Japan.
I am so tempted to get Japanese games for my Saturn but not sure if I should get either the action replay cart or just a Japanese console 🤔
Both! Hihi
Jap Saturns are pretty cheap, and some are a lovely white colour too, with colourful controller buttons. Quite an attractive unit to sit next to the black western models, for contrast
@@BenjiMordino between £80 and £300 give or take.
I'm using the Action replay cart with my US Saturn and it works great. Japanese games are awesome. So many that never came out here. I've been collecting Japanese games since October 2018 and have around 50. Japanese Saturn Bomberman is a day one purchase. 😀
@@BenjiMordino Gotta really look closely at those white ones. Most have some yellowing. 😥
Damn I have most of these sitting in a box… including Radiant Silvergun
I was just about to go to bed and I get an email notification smh so now you know I have to watch. My go to channel for winding down.
Always appreciate the click my friend. :)
Cant remember. Were the ram carts game specific or interchangeable?
I think there was 4mb and 8mb carts. One cart for all your games
(edit : 4mb and 1mb)
There are games that only work properly when using the 1mb ram cart and there are games that need the 4mb ram cart to play. There are also a handful of games that work with and without the ram carts. Astra Superstars and Cotton 2 are two games that can be played with and without a cart.
@@briantaylorcloe7725 there are no 8mb carts, the carts are 1mb and 4mb.
There were a couple of earlier games that had their own specific ROM carts. King of Fighters '95 was one of them. Some of the game's assets would be on the cart and wouldn't need to be loaded from CD into RAM. Obviously, non-specific RAM carts made more sense going forward. The 1MB and 4MB RAM carts are not game specific, though some 1MB games need the 1MB cart to work properly.
@@HellTantrumbull that's right - 1mb and 4mb ... Marvel Superheroes was another example : not necessary to play, but added frames to the animation if you have one
I've said many times, but SFA3 on Saturn is the most impressive game in terms of graphics and game play of the entire 32 bit era. Few 3D games from SS/PS1/N64 hold up and this one still looks and plays great compared to any other 2D game. On top of the looks, it's one of the best playing games of all time. Agree with SLX that Vampire Savior looked just as good, but the gameplay of SFA3 takes it to the next level.
Great second half. I had one of those flawed Saturn Super Adventure Rockman copies a friend got for me. They found out about the error, had me send my copy back to them, and sent back the PS1 version, which has no disc errors.
However, I do own some Capcom for my Saturn.
Street Fighter Alpha 2X-Men Vs Street FighterCapcom Generation 1Capcom Generation 2Rockman 8Vampire HunterVampire Savior
How cool is Alpha 2? Legendary.
I listen to a lot of game commentators on UA-cam, and no one talks about games in the way that Sega Lord X does. I feel like I've played games that I haven't after listening to the way he describes them.
Damn, that D&D collection looks great. Now I have to build myself up into paying over $100 for it. I am glad that during that time, I was grabbing every Capcom fighter from Japan for the Saturn. Even though Final Fight Revenge is pretty bad, it really is, I have it in my collection and it will stay there until I die. Probably my best purchase in hindsight would have to be getting Zero 3 even though by then I had the Japanese PS1 and Dreamcast versions. You are 100% right on the Saturn version being the best out of the 3. And the first 2 games in the Versus series were/are amazing. Even to this day I play them regularly.
Juggernaut, Hulk and Thanos look so amazing on marvel superheroes
Superb list. 👍 It leaves me wondering how the Saturn would be remembered without Capcom's software.
I really wish a version of Resident Evil had been released though! The N64 got it, why not the Saturn? Still, it was fun to be a Saturn owner back in the day. 🙂
The reason why these Capcom and SNK did not come to the west is because 3D was all the rage! Which makes sense if you think about 4-5 years of 2D beat em ups and side scrolling games of 8/16/32 bit, it was welcome change to go 3D as it had more depth in play hence why most 3d beat em ups came to the console in all regions. Favourite has to be Last Bronx and Rival School on PS
Gun.smoke arcade is great but BRUTAL. I have a playthrough up on the channel and im only about 1/2 way through. Doesnt help that I died at most of the checkpoints and had to do them all without any starting power ups. Its one of those old games that really seems designed around not dying so that you keep your power ups. Its a game that was really designed to use the original arcade joystick layout. Mainly because you really need an overhand position on the firing buttons to switch between the 3 directions super quickly. Its the only arcade game that I will only play with a joystick when playing on emulation.
Yeah, capturing that little bit of footage you see in this video was funny. I died many times on the first few stages.
@@SegaLordX Yea its so brutal from stage 3 and up. The ninja battle on the third stage is where the first main difficulty spike is, and you really see that the game isnt fucking around. That boss took hours at the time. Then the 4th boss was easy in comparison, but the 5th boss was WAY fuckin harder. ha ha. Managed to get to the 6th boss so far but that seems to kick things up another big notch. This was my 5th boss kill
ua-cam.com/video/V1l4ych1opg/v-deo.html
I even made a video about the mindset of taking on extreme gaming challenges, with footage of me failing this boss for over an hour in the background. Its been a very on and off again game that Ive had going for a while. I rarely play because its so punishing. ha ha. With the 6th boss its gotten to the point where I load the boss area state, fail as soon as I take my hand off the keyboard, reload again and die immediately again. Im looking into having save and load states mapped to my joystick before going back, for practicing. Insane game.
I've lost my mind when i saw the special move at 29:07 hahahaha
Best channel ever!
In Europe Roosters was called Midnight Wanderers. Great game!!!
Capcom: i heard you like fighting games with your fighting games
First, great work here, SLX. I didn't notice at first that they were fighting on the SIDE of a building in that one stage in Vampire Savior. When I saw the helicopter, I realized what the stage was. It's an interesting concept in a game that doesn't need to be as serious as Street Fighter. I prefer that kind of creativity to all the excess motion I thought they did when going to 3D backgrounds.
3 Wonders is pretty cool with Roosters/Midnight Wanderers being particularly good. It felt a lot like Ghouls 'n' Ghosts in its structure. It's a good game. The others aren't bad either.
I wasn't quite as happy as you with X-Men vs. Street Fighter. Part of it was the roster, especially with Street Fighter side. Dhalsim? I also already didn't find Street Fighter Alpha appealing. I was a few years past the point when I soured on Marvel. I did play and enjoy Marvel Super Heroes, but I didn't love the characters at the time. Maybe if I hadn't gotten Marvel Super Heroes, the novelty of X-Men vs. Street Fighter would have made it better for me. I did like it. The sprites were awesome quality as were the backgrounds. It had neat play mechanics. But there were things I didn't like as much. I think Capcom was going in a direction I didn't love. I got interested in KOF '97 shortly after. I still play that one and just played it last night.
I know Capcom's D&D games have a lot of fans. And I absolutely love many of Capcom's beat-em-up games. I even love Dynasty Wars, which isn't quite a beat-em-up game(I just consider it an action game), but I find it super fun. Both the D&D games felt a bit off to me. I think part of it was the new features which led to clunky controls, specifically dealing with the menu and crouching. The crouching is a bit awkward. The music might have also been less energetic than the likes of Alien vs. Predator or Cadillacs & Dinosaurs. I would never call them bad games, but I lack the enthusiasm for them that other have. I know of others who had my reaction. Ultimately, we're not always going to like the same things, and I'm just sharing my view and have no desire to change any minds. If anything, I just want people to know that the D&D games are different enough from the other Capcom beat-em-ups that people know. Clearly, I like my beat-em-ups straightforward. I know there are people who don't like the genre and find it boring and repetitive, so I know how it is when people don't like the thing I like, so I respect the positive views of the D&D games. They're well made with great pixel art for sure and some clever ideas. There's just something about their structure that didn't work for me. I wish I liked them more, as more Capcom beat-em-ups is a good thing.
I think the D&D games benefit heavily from 2 or more players at the same time. That's when the game really shines. Playing it alone really takes a toll on the fun factor. When the difficulty ramps up, it becomes more a strategy game as opposed to a straight brawler.
@@SegaLordX That's what I assumed. I prefer when beat-em-ups can provide an experience that scales well from one player to whatever the game's max is. As said, I did have a few issues with some of the mechanics, but the games are well made. They just have a totally different vibe from other beat-em-ups, so they may not resonate with fans of the genre, though plenty of people do like them. Thanks for replying.
Love the soundtrack in Street Fighter Alpha 2!Ive heard before you can use the 3 meg cart and it wont slow down as bad while playing Marvel Super Heroes? Still wanna track down Street Fighter Alpha 3 one day for the Sega Saturn.😉
Is super adventure rockman compatible with the sega saturn light gun? if so, that could be fun!
Unfortunately, no.
The PSP also has an upgraded version of Street Fighter Alpha 3 known as Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX, which I got for PPSSPP, a PSP emulator updated to version 1.0.3 or something like that.
Sega Saturn 4 Life
I enjoyed this series, I hope you consider doing Capcom on the Dreamcast in the future.
Awesome video, love the Saturn and the Japanese releases especially! 👍
It's criminal that SFA2 Gold wasn't on the Street Fighter collection for PS4 and X1.
Little Red Riding Hood got slapped silly!
Lordy x always delivers!!!!!
Loved the Saturn with just the basic US releases...but had I known about the Capcom ports I would have flipped out!
I've meant to ask you this for a while, are you planning to make videos about more recent SEGA IPs like the Yakuza series, Valykiria Chronicles, Bayonetta, Binary Domain, Vanquish etc? (some were developped by external studios but SEGA still owns the IPs)
Modern Sega games should be coming regularly after the start of the new year.
@@SegaLordX Great news!
Ok, didn't know a compilation of Ghouls and Ghosts... So want.
Great content, as always!!
Marvellous job
I never played Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter On Sega Saturn I had Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter on PSX and I loved it
Sad to remember thatI ignored these games over the poly craze
This came at a good time! I'm currently game hunting in Japan . Im buying all the cheap Capcom Saturn games !
A lot of them are cheap, too. Grab all the ones that are.
Exemplary content, once again. Fantastic job.
Thank you, kindly.
bernie stolar dropped the ball with the ram cartridge, x-men vs street fighter couldve expanded the market
I definitely love the reviews especially the 2d fighters!
I can confirm that Marvel Super Heroes performs worse when using the 4MB cartridge. Using the cartridge does restore the full animation frames, but it also causes the game to run significantly worse than without it. I only use the 4MB cartridge on the games that require it.
Ah, that's the real M. Bison at 27:08!
mike bison mike Tyson reason for the name change
Commando is great film,my top 5 Arnold roles.
OK... A Saturn Mini, Capcom edition please Sega!
You know what bothered me about the D&D games other than them never making it stateside for the Saturn...it took over 15 years before you could legitimately get them here in the US via XBLA. Further, I wish Sega had ported both games over to the Sega Dreamcast. I know both games would fit on one disk and the Dreamcast could do the arcade version in its entirety without breaking a sweat.
Addendum- While I purchased both 2d D&D arcade games on XBLA for my Xbox One and Xbox One X....I don't think they made the cut for the Series X. The other Sega Saturn/arcade properties made it thankfully just not the D&D titles. I wish Sega would continue producing Saturn/arcade games for XBLA/Switch but alas it seems as if they have stopped. "Welcome to the D&D world!"
Now that I've watched this second half of the Capcom on Saturn series I'm certain of one thing.. There's a special place in hell for Bernie Stolar. What a baffling stupid individual! His idea to save Sega was to kill their current console then starve people of games for their systems for almost 2 years and actually expect that to be a sound finacial decision? Simply dumb beyond words! Wow. Also, good on You SLX, for spotlighting Pocket Fighter! That game is deceptively deep and a complete blast to play. Thanks as always for the great content! Looking forward to Your next video!
Alpha 2 gold has a third name in Brazil: Zero 2 Alpha.
That's the name of the game in Japan, Hispanic and Brazil territories. It was first released in arcades.
The Capcom Fighters were so good on the Saturn. It is truly a shame that it went underappreciated during the original run.