Siskel & Ebert Debate (1980): Mel Brooks or Woody Allen?

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  • @Thatmassageguy
    @Thatmassageguy 7 років тому +22

    I miss Siskel and Ebert.

    • @danwroy
      @danwroy 3 роки тому

      Why

    • @amitbasu7516
      @amitbasu7516 2 роки тому +1

      @@danwroy If you're old enough to have watched these shows, particularly if you were too young or too far from a big city to see a lot of the movies they reviewed, watching Siskel and Ebert was how you learned about the movies and became ready to watch them when you finally did have the chance.

    • @elizabeths4371
      @elizabeths4371 Рік тому

      @@amitbasu7516 I agree! I particularly enjoyed their segments on small, lesser known films which slipped under the radar but which they highly recommended.

  • @paulvoorhies1130
    @paulvoorhies1130 3 роки тому +6

    I’m with Ebert on this one. Allen’s comedy is more cerebral, but Brooks is just flat out hysterical.

  • @eargasm1072
    @eargasm1072 3 роки тому +7

    Woody is a much more diverse and prolific filmmaker than Brooks ever was...that being said, both are brilliant comic minds

  • @linkbiff1054
    @linkbiff1054 4 роки тому +11

    Brooks was funnier, but Allen did more great films.

    • @Dr.TJ1
      @Dr.TJ1 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed. Woody wants to tell a story but Mel just uses the story as a setup for the gags. But the gags are actually funnier in the Brooks’ movies.

  • @fieldingm1969
    @fieldingm1969 3 роки тому +2

    Of course, several years later Ebert would be raving (rightly) about Hannah and Her Sisters and Crimes and Misdemeanors, long after Brooks' skills as a filmmaker had ebbed away.

  • @yaywhewclips242
    @yaywhewclips242 7 років тому +13

    Every Woody Allen buff should see THE FRONT(1970?). A non-directed by Woody brilliant film on the 1950s black list.

    • @roberthenderson6891
      @roberthenderson6891 4 роки тому +1

      notgrillo college The Front directed by Martin Ritt was in 1976.

  • @willemverheij3412
    @willemverheij3412 3 роки тому +4

    A shame they don't really talk about Young Frankenstein, to me it's such a perfect blend of parody and homage.
    They truly capture the atmosphere of what they parody and that's crucial for any parody to work. They film it the same way as those old movies, use the same transitions and all.

  • @brianforbes8325
    @brianforbes8325 5 років тому +9

    I can't believe that Siskel dumped on Brooks' "High Anxiety." I saw that film when it was first released in the theaters; it was hysterical then and it's still hysterical all these years later!

    • @daniverse9625
      @daniverse9625 5 років тому

      He actually gave it three stars. He more despised the film's "sex jokes", which to be honestly I only vaguely noticed my first time watching.

    • @brianforbes8325
      @brianforbes8325 3 роки тому

      @@daniverse9625 I find it hard to believe Siskel gave it three stars, based on what he said on this program.

    • @daniverse9625
      @daniverse9625 3 роки тому

      @@brianforbes8325 Wikipedia has a link to his review, and it says three stars.

    • @daniverse9625
      @daniverse9625 3 роки тому

      @@brianforbes8325 Maybe he thought less of the film a couple years later, happens

  • @1qwasz12
    @1qwasz12 4 роки тому +5

    Brooks vs. Allen. It's like Fincher vs. Nolan. The styles of humor are different. Brooks is lowbrow and hilarious at times. Allen is highbrow and very funny in the right movie. But he rarely gives a gut-buster like Brooks can. I don't care for this type of show. It would make much more sense if the critics chose their faves from both directors; not a dopey "which guy is best" contest.

  • @ernestolombardo5811
    @ernestolombardo5811 4 роки тому +6

    If Allen had followed Ebert's advice, he might have made something like "Broadway Danny Rose", but never "Hannah & Her Sisters" (my all-time favorite of his, by a long shot), "Crimes And Misdemeanors", nor maybe even "Zelig".
    But yeah, at the time "Interiors" did make most people nervous about the direction Allen was taking.

  • @fherlinn
    @fherlinn 4 роки тому +5

    Mel Brooks

  • @jmcusack
    @jmcusack 4 роки тому +8

    Somehow I originally read this as 'Mel Gibson or Woody Allen'.

    • @Pelcurus
      @Pelcurus 3 роки тому

      Thank god, I'm not the only one.

    • @brianvail9212
      @brianvail9212 3 роки тому +2

      Mel often thought you're Joan Cusack

  • @charleswinokoor6023
    @charleswinokoor6023 4 роки тому +6

    Nothing was funnier than “Young Frankenstein.”

  • @RaoulDuke77
    @RaoulDuke77 7 років тому +9

    I love Roger but he's totally wrong about The Great Dictator speech.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +1

      He's wrong about Allen too. Siskel gets it.

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed...deadly dull? It's one of the most moving, heartfelt monologues committed to film

  • @bighuge1060
    @bighuge1060 4 роки тому +2

    One opinion (and that is all it is): Mel Brooks' early works were his best. The Producers and The Twelve Chairs are my favorite followed closely by Blazing Saddles (corny but with some brilliant pieces) and Young Frankenstein, the homage to beat all homages. Woody Allen's early works shared a similar absurdity with Brooks but the biggest liability to me was Woody Allen himself and the actors who delivered their lines in Woody Allen's ad-lib-like style. Wood Allen perhaps grew as he made more films while Mel Brooks reverted back to a vaudeville-like over-the-top style. There are brilliant comedic scenes in History of the World Part One that would absolutely kill with a little finesse.

  • @eargasm1072
    @eargasm1072 3 роки тому +2

    I honestly don't understandf why people undermine and fail to "get" Allen's comedy as being "intellectual" or "highbrow"...ever see his early films "Bananas" or "Sleeper"?? Nothing highbrow about them, full of silly slapstick and I got the humor when I was 12!

    • @JeffRebornNow
      @JeffRebornNow 3 роки тому

      I got the humor when I was 12, as well. I saw "Love and Death" when I was 12 and I have never laughed harder at any movie since.

  • @emmaduncan2991
    @emmaduncan2991 7 років тому +8

    I would still put Blazing Saddles or Young Frankenstein, as the funniest movie ever made...

  • @gage6209
    @gage6209 4 роки тому +3

    Mel Brooks for me.

  • @movieman104
    @movieman104 4 роки тому +3

    brooks is better n funnier

  • @bostonblackie9503
    @bostonblackie9503 3 роки тому +1

    Mel Brooks!

  • @booberminfranklin3652
    @booberminfranklin3652 2 роки тому

    3:31 It came out in 1974, months apart from Blazing Saddles.

  • @yaywhewclips242
    @yaywhewclips242 7 років тому +1

    ZERO= incredible talent! He's in THE FRONT as well.

  • @rnw2739
    @rnw2739 2 роки тому +1

    Mel Brooks all day long for me personally.

  • @Jetset906
    @Jetset906 7 років тому +1

    The 1970's were the hey-day for both Brooks and Allen. A few hits in the 80's for them, but clearly their best movies were behind them. Especially Brooks, By the time he got to the 1990's his movies paled so much in comparison to the 1970's.

    • @user-rx4sq5ds3j
      @user-rx4sq5ds3j 7 років тому +3

      Jetset906 I would rank Hannah and Her Sisters and Crimes and Misdemeanors up there with Manhattan and Annie Hall.

    • @emmaduncan2991
      @emmaduncan2991 7 років тому +1

      Crimes and misdemeanors is my favorite of his "Serious" films, but then, I enjoyed "Interiors"

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому

      @@emmaduncan2991 Well, Crimes and Misdomeanors is both, funny and dramatic. It's a truly great film. The scene where Woody shows Alan Alda his documentary makes me freakin howl! Lmao.

    • @amitbasu7516
      @amitbasu7516 2 роки тому

      @@waynej2608 I wanted to give you this letter back.
      - It's my one love letter.
      - It's beautiful.
      I'm just... the wrong person.
      It's probably just as well.
      I plagiarised most of it from James Joyce.
      You probably wondered
      why all the references to Dublin.

  • @davidnetterwald1846
    @davidnetterwald1846 4 роки тому +2

    I think that Allen has better writing in his films and is obviously a better director with a much more diverse body of work but in my view Mel Brooks films are funnier because I find the humor to be simpler and easier to get and he does sort of go for the belly laughs. I don't laugh as hard at Woody Allen because his humor tends to be a little too intellectual for my taste. When I watch a comedy my main reason to watch is to laugh and only laugh and with the Brooks approach I know what I'm laughing at and why. With Woody Allen I have to watch for at least an hour before I laugh at his films. The humor is upscale and highbrow whereas Brooks is a little more vulgar and I tend to gravitate towards vulgar humor more. They're both funny in their own way but I favor Brooks style of comedy over Allen.

    • @eargasm1072
      @eargasm1072 3 роки тому +1

      I honestly don't get where people undermine Allen's humor as being "intellectual" or "highbrow"...ever see "Bananas" or "Sleeper"?? Nothing highbrow about them, full of silly slapstick and I got the humor when I was 12!

  • @fherlinn
    @fherlinn 4 роки тому +11

    Nobody in their right mind gets together with their friends to watch a Woody Allen flick for a laugh. The question wasn't who is the better director but who's movies are funnier. Mel Brooks wins easily.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +2

      I guess it depends on whose friends. Most of mine prefer Allen. I like Brooks, but Woody is more prolific.

    • @connshawnery6489
      @connshawnery6489 4 роки тому

      I get it. I prefer Allen but his movies, even the intended comedies often contain more than just comedy. Brooks is more pure and unadulterated as a comic writer/director/actor.

  • @cessnaace
    @cessnaace Рік тому

    I dislike the whole either/or premise. I like the films of both Allen and Brooks.

  • @ryan49er1
    @ryan49er1 8 років тому

    Both great writers!!!!...I prefer Mel....Woody tends to drone on but that's not really a complaint as I love that style.

    • @216Eva
      @216Eva 7 років тому +2

      Woody Allen is so overrated

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +1

      @@216Eva Not even close. If anything he's very underrated. With exception of New York and Europe, where he's best appreciated. He's a genius.

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 3 роки тому

    Mel for me by a million %!

  • @deckofcards87
    @deckofcards87 3 роки тому +2

    I love everything by Mel Brookes.
    Annie Hall is really good, but the rest of Woody's films I find very hard to get into, and he creeps me out for some reason.

  • @dusty3913
    @dusty3913 3 роки тому +2

    Funny that Siskel says Brooks kept making the same film. The majority of Allen's films are romantic comedies with the following formula: bumbling, insecure, neurotic, verbose fool attempts to woo charming, artistic type who finds him strangely attractive.

  • @Unqualifiedmedicalperson
    @Unqualifiedmedicalperson 5 місяців тому

    Allen is a better director, but Brooks has always been a superior writer and comedian.

    • @yournamehere6002
      @yournamehere6002 18 днів тому

      No, Woody's earlier movies are hilarious and much more clever than Brooks

  • @aldenmartin623
    @aldenmartin623 3 роки тому

    (It's Mel Brooks)

  • @smileybubbles9894
    @smileybubbles9894 4 роки тому

    Young Frankenstein is a parody of son of Frankenstein not Bride of Frankenstein

  • @jk196115
    @jk196115 4 роки тому +2

    i mean Mel Brooks every step of the way is better, as a filmmaker and as a person

  • @mikedbigame3398
    @mikedbigame3398 9 місяців тому

    The first 30 minutes of Annie Hall are funnier, but Manhattan is a better film than Annie Hall.

  • @mrnocal
    @mrnocal 5 років тому +4

    I'd go with Mel Brooks. Most of his films make me laugh, whereas most of Woody Allen's comedy films don't. Admittedly, some of Mel Brooks' movies are silly...but they achieved the laughter factor. Sometimes we just need silly fun, and Mel Brooks provided that.

    • @1qwasz12
      @1qwasz12 4 роки тому +1

      I like Allen better as a writer. I like Mel for over-the-top humor. And fart jokes may be funny to some but crude and repugnant to others.

  • @cwknight
    @cwknight 16 днів тому

    I think Mel Brooks has made me laugh maybe 6 times total, 5 of them in Spaceballs. The clips Ebert picked out to exemplify him, I didn't laugh at even a single time. He's just not funny to me.
    Brooks probably hits for more people, but if his humor misses you god it misses by so far. It's like he goes for the most _obvious_ joke, every single time. Emblematic of this is the Blazing Saddles bean scene -- people laugh uproariously, but to me, that is just the most obvious joke you could possibly do given that setup, so it's not clever, it's not amusing, it's just... farts. Lots of people think farts are funny, I guess, but I think "You should get William F Buckley to kill the spider" or pulling Marshall McLuhan out of Mallet-Space to excoriate an idiot is way, way, way more clever and amusing, even if fewer people get it.

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 3 роки тому

    Diane Keaton ruins all the films she is in.

  • @spidertown1
    @spidertown1 4 роки тому +2

    wow R Ebert called Chaplin an american ...........he was English .... school boy error

  • @blacbraun
    @blacbraun 3 роки тому

    Horrible theme music. Glad that improved later.

  • @Pelcurus
    @Pelcurus 3 роки тому +4

    Both are overrated, but at least Mel Brooks doesn't come with an aura of pretentiousness.

  • @jamesmurray3889
    @jamesmurray3889 3 роки тому +1

    I absolutely cannot stand Woody Allen. I just don't get it.

  • @johnmaritato3587
    @johnmaritato3587 5 років тому +5

    I love Mel but as far as being a joke writer he's far behind Woody Allen. Mel does broad, lowest common denominator humor. Woody Allen does absolutely ingenious comedy.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly. I like Brooks, esp The Producers and Young Frankenstein. But, he's no where near the level of Allen. Allen is more versatile and prolific. A true genuis of a filmmaker. Imho.

    • @josephine1465
      @josephine1465 3 роки тому +2

      exactly

  • @crossaffliction
    @crossaffliction Рік тому

    "Woody Allen is riding high right now." Well, that aged well.

  • @andres6868
    @andres6868 4 роки тому +1

    Mel Brooks is somewhat forgotten today, unfortunately

  • @claudec2588
    @claudec2588 4 роки тому +6

    Definitely Woody Allen

  • @Frogman1212
    @Frogman1212 2 роки тому

    Notice how these jews cast only jews in their movies, playing jewish characters with jewish names?

  • @jesseSixworld
    @jesseSixworld 3 роки тому

    How about who is the better person? What Allen did to Dylan Farrow is unforgivable.

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 3 роки тому

    Interiors is a horrible movie. Remember I've tried to warn u

  • @yaywhewclips242
    @yaywhewclips242 7 років тому +1

    Woody Allen is the homophobe NOT Brooks. I prefer Brooks' late wife (over him) academy award winner A. Bancroft, anywho!

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +2

      I always thought that Anne Bancroft was Mel's best feature.

  • @carljcreighton
    @carljcreighton 4 роки тому +1

    Midnight in Paris sucked

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 4 роки тому +3

      Midnight in Paris was awesome!!

    • @carljcreighton
      @carljcreighton 4 роки тому

      @@waynej2608 i do think about it a lot maybe it didn't suck but it did seem kind of like one of those if only his wife wasn't so horrible kind of movies