Classics from the Vault: Great Performances that Oscars Ignored (1980)
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Glad they mentioned John Cazale. All 5 films he appeared in were nominated for Best Picture and 3 of them won. Cazale was a big part in their successes. He was Meryl Streep's fiancee when he passed away.
never nominated for an Oscar was a crime
Meryl Streep nursed him until he died.
@@tojo4 He was great in all the roles but it's always a question of who would you snub to nominate him. Lots of wonderful performances in 1970's films.
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
The Conversation
Dog Day Afternoon
The Deer Hunter
John Cazale was great.
Absolutely agree with John Cazale in Dog Day Afternoon. Everyone remembers Fredo but this was his best role on screen.
Siskel was dead on when he said Kubrick is the star and centerpiece of his movies.
brunswickphoto I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with that. It’s his style. It would explain, however, why the acting in his movies are rather forced and theatrical. Characters only exist inside his vision.
Siskel was dead when you made this comment
That applies to any genuine auteur.
But still how did oscar overlook McDowell,I don't understand that. It is the finest performance I have seen in any Kubrick movie.
Two big thumbs u-p to Roger for saying Shelly Duvall -- she is so great.
OMG, that was incredibly satisfying. I love Shelly Duvall and she seems to have been all but forgotten. 3 Women is a masterpiece and she is fantastic! Robert Altman was always my favorite director, too.
@@waynej2608 I love you, Wayne! Shelley and Altman are my favs, too!
Love these guys, but Roger kept saying "Martin SHEEHEN". Oh Roger. ❤
The conversation what an underrated masterpiece
Sheryl Lee in Fire Walk With Me
Siskel is right. Gene Hackman in The Conversation is fantastic. He should have been nominated for that. It's such a good film that I show it i my introductory film class (I'm a college teacher).
Yes..good as Art Carney was, the Oscar should have gone to Hackman or Pacino that year
Cazale “The Conversation”. Shelley Duvall in Three Women is clinically insane, remarkable performance
Ebert especially was very supportive of Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieutenant upon its release. But Ferrara's film was independent in the extreme, well outside the boundaries of what Academy voters thought suitable or tasteful enough for their consideration. The Crying Game was as edgy as they got that year. Plus the marketing on Bad Lieutenant did nothing to bait Academy voters; it was always marketed as a kind of nasty midnight movie. The surprise with Keitel is that he wasn't nominated the following year for his terrific performance in Jane Campion's Piano, which the Academy otherwise ate up with spoon.
Martin Sheen was outstanding and totally convincing in "Badlands"
Choose Me, Anne Of The Thousand Days, Coma, Obsession, The Trojan Women, Dead Ringers and The Moderns, all movies that should have given Genevieve Bujold an Academy Award. Karen Black should have been on this list too.
Spot the f**k on!!!
How about Judy Garland in A Star is Born? She was nominated for Best Actress but was unable to attend the ceremony because she was preparing to give birth to her son Joey Luft. And she was so widely expected to win that camera crews were sent to her hospital room to catch her reaction when she accepted the award. Then, when the winner was announced, it was revealed that Grace Kelly had won for her role in The Country Girl. Almost everyone was shocked and felt that Judy deserved the award; Groucho Marx even quipped that her loss was "the biggest robbery since Brinks." You could also make this same case for How Green Was My Valley beating Citizen Kane for Best Picture.
Pay attention. This is honoring performances not nominated, not ones that were nominated and lost
@@joshanderson3845 That's true, but Garland not winning borders on criminal.
Grace Kelly won because her family bought the Oscar for her
Thanks for posting . It's nice to see this early of a clip from them and the conversation about unrecognized performances was great.
Adam Gordon If you go to the IMDb page for Sneak Previews they have a good bulk of the shows available for viewing.
Can anyone see Martin Sheen and not think of President Bartlet in the “West wing?”
Totally forgot about Geneviève Bujold, very underrated actress from the 70s.
VNYLDEN I loved her in “Trouble In Mind” which was a pretty obscure film.
@@Cap683 I loved her even more in the same writer/director's Choose Me a few years earlier. That actually may be my favorite Bujold performance. "Dr. Love," the radio hostess.
Agreed. She was great in almost everything she appeared in...Coma, Choose Me, Dead Ringers, etc....
She was also in "Tightrope" with Clint Eastwood, awesome performance there
Would have benefited from having a simpler name.
John Cazale telling another person not to smoke, cause they should take care of their bodies, is ironic, seeing as he died from lung cancer at 42 (from smoking)
Petey Wheatstraw tasteless.it’s impossible to say what exactly causes lung cancer.
@@piranha5506 I heard that he died from BONE cancer, not lung cancer
@@danmseattle975 He was a chain smoker who was first diagnosed with lung cancer, the cancer then spread to his bones.
Roger’s eyes/glasses in these older episodes legit looks like those gag glasses with the fake eyes printed over the lens.
Thanks for uploading this. So fun to see some of my "Oscar subs" mentioned in this conversation; particularly in the last moments with Peter Falk in "A Woman Under the Influence" being mentioned.
Additionally, John Cazale's career was all too short but, my, how his star shone bright. I still can't get over the scene in "Dog Day Afternoon", where -- about 44 minutes into the film -- Al Pacino's character asks Cazaele's character if there's any special country that he would like to go (to escape). Cazaele pauses for a moment to collect his thoughts an then, with the innocence of a child, utters "Wyoming". That moment is one that has stayed with me for a long time and, despite my love for director Sidney Lumet, I think is all Cazaele.
Love the Christy and Ignaty intro but I wish they still had their show!
Dog day afternoon is an under-rated movie itself.
Chris Cuomo was great in that movie.
So powerful it didn't even need a music score.
I felt Donald Sutherland was denied an Oscar nomination for Ordinary People. It was perhaps his greatest performance and the one I remember most from that movie. He was better than Timothy Hutton and Judd Hirsch given the arc he had realizing he no longer loves his wife after her transition after the death of their oldest child. I will always feel this was a gross oversight.
Big Huge it’s amazing that in all these decades, Sutherland has never gotten an Oscar nom. He’s probably just about the best actor out there who never has.
The fact that all the other lead actors were nominated but he was omitted made no sense
God. I sure miss these guys. Grew up with them. Watching on Christmas morn. Feeling a bit maudlin. No one like these guys. You’d think some you tuber rise to the occasion.
A Clockwork Orange is so good. Just a blistering social commentary which is still relevant today and nothing remotely resembled it up to 1970.
It's so powerful and brilliant.
One of my favorites of all time.
Yeah it is great I think its Stanley Kubrick's best film
I never saw the film but I read the book. Kubrick purposely adapted the inferior print of the book which removed the final chapter. That's why Anthony Burgess hated the Kubrick film.
I think A Clockwork Orange has dated badly. Malcolm McDowell is great in it, though.
Donald Sutherland for ORDINARY PEOPLE.
McDowall definitely deserved the nomination for Orange.
Who?
Malcolm McDowell, A Clockwork Orange
I Fucking LOVE Siskel & Ebert RIP FOREVER
Roy Scheider - All That Jazz (1979).
Shelly Duvall was sadly ignored for The Shining.
brunswickphoto They didn’t like The Shining. It would take 26 years from its release before Ebert finally included it in his Greatest Movies list.
@Konga 5000 'Oliver!' is my favourite musical. Now it shouldn't have won but it's a good film
Matt Attack I didn’t like The Shining, and still don’t, but I read the book first. Nicholson was great though.
@Konga 5000 Love "Oliver!" and it's one of my favorite family/musical films ever...while 2001 is one of the best films ever made as well one of the most "ahead of its time". That being said, the Academy still doesn't take sci-fi very seriously and were still in love with musicals back in '68
@@NovaFeedback1979 including the death of Gene Siskel
Gene ,here mentions George C. Scott's three laws of acting. Scott mentioned in another interview, the actor whom met all these criteria was the peerless James Cagney...
Cagney's best was Yankee Doodle Dandy.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Jim's own favourite among his own pictures. The scene where Cagney as Cohan says goodbye to his dying father even had the autocrat director Michael Curtiz sobbing! Truly Top Of The World...
Who did not get a Supporting Actor nod for Ragtime the next year.
@@sha11235 That's right. Gene & Roger were narked at that snub. They also felt Howard E. Rollings Jr. should have been nominated for best leading actor rather the supporting category, If my memory serves me...
“ eye of the needle” with Donald Sutherland...excellent
It’s stimulating to merely hear people intelligently discussing film. A rarity these days when people are more interested in sociology, politics, and technology than in art.
I'm not a student of the Oscars but it blows my mind that Robert Mitchum never won one,so many great performances over the years...
My favorite Robert Mitchum movie was the Yakusa. It was from 1975. It was one of the most exciting movies I have ever seen. It captures what Japan was like in the 1970s. The scene they show was a little misleading. This movie is great acting and non stop action.
The Yakuza was a great film.
Great actors, great direction, and great Kenjutsu scenes
@@robertpiekosz7470 I am glad to hear you say that. I loved the movie. It is Robert Mitchum best film. I think the 1970s was the last great era of American filmmaking. Most of what Hollywood makes today is garbage.
The Night of the Hunter, Cape Fear, The Friends of Eddie Coyle.
@@danieltadros3262 I would say that was the last time major studios focused on truly provocative films. They will still finance a good film but it's not in the limelight like the 1970s.
One of the biggest snubs for me is not including "The Friends of Eddie Coyle" as part of any category. Such a tight script, such a profound performance of Robert Mitchum. He plays the man so full of pride, he cannot escape it, falling into the bad crowds to support his family and being so broken because of it. It's fantastic and even though the ending is unavoidable, its still heartbreaking. I cannot recommend this film enough.
This subject could be the basis of an entire series. Stacy Keach in Fat City, Richard Widmark in The Bedford Incident and Night and The City, Arnold Stang in The Man With The Golden Arm, Robert Mitchum in Farewell, My Lovely, Humphrey Bogart in In a Lonely Place, and so on...
Bogie sure played a creep in that movie. Very well, of course
Watching this again the day this year's Oscar nominations were announced.
Also Robert Mitchum in Night Of The Hunter, and Martin Sheen in The Execution Of Pvt. Slovic & TWW Two Cathedrals.
Robert Mitchum in just about every movie he was in.
John Cazale should have been nominated for Godfather 2.
John Cazale, right out of the gate.
Ebert gave a mixed review for The Yakuza. Surprised he didn’t select The Friends of Eddie Coyle.
I was thinking the same thing. Mitchum was terrific in Friends of Eddie Coyle, and it was a better film than The Yakuza. Imho.
@@waynej2608 "count your knuckles..." Yes, Mitchum brought lyrical truth to all his performances. One nomination is all Bob was given by the Academy in his long career which highlights the arbitrary idiocy of the Oscars!
@@philiphalpenny9761 Most definitely. He should've been nominated for Eddie Coyle, of course, but also for Out of the Past, The Night of the Hunter, The Sundowners, Cape Fear, Home from the Hill. I may have missed some, but he surely should have more than The Story of G.I. Joe, on his oscar resume. Imho. Yes, he was lyrical and naturalistic. A true actor, in every sense. Oh, and that Nicholas Ray film, The Lusty Men. Terrific!
@@waynej2608 Mitchum, always an outsider anyway , saw through the absurdity of Hollywood right away but he was enough of an artist to bring his poetic stillness to even the least of his films assignments. Love his work with Ray, Wellman, Walsh, Huston & , of course, Laughton. Shame he only did one film with Hawks, as they were as simpatico as the artful associations between Ford/ Wayne, Huston/ Bogart, Cagney/ Walsh etc...
I thought i was the only person who loved 3 Women. Great film with great performances
When I watched 3 Women, like the foreign film Persona, you saw a shift in female personalities because people mimic each other, whether consciously or not and those films explore it very well. Mimicry is a subject that Hollywood doesnt focus alot on but even in my own life, its amazing how as people, we mimic, imitate those we love or even just know and it stays with us, almost like baggage or assimilation ...
A spellbinding film. Duvall, Spacek, and Rule were oddly overlooked even though it was a huge hit at Cannes.
2:44 Shame on Gene for describing Fredo as "goofy". Awkward, uncomfortable maybe, but to boil Fredo down to "goofy" undermines Cazale's understated and amazing performance. One of the greatest American actors who ever lived. Gene can be so condescending about people and subjects that are so much greater than he. Well, that's a critic for you.
I don't think he meant it as undermining, considering it was a segment to honor Cazale as an actor
Nah I think it is kinda goofy, to offset the ultra macho Sonny (who is also goofy in that way) and the middle ground sons Michael & Tom Hagen (who are never goofy)
The hotel scene with Moe Green, Fredo acts like a damn clown (trying to forge his own personality, based off of some Vegas stereotypes) and even when the Don gets shot, Fredo drops the gun & reverts to this child-like state... Kinda goofy.
I wish they would have combed through who WERE the nominees at those times. But fun to watch.
Nicholson that year in The Shining sure upended their theory on Kubrick being the star of his own movies.
Rolling Ormond It’s shocking that Jack didn’t get nominated for The Shining. I suppose they feel he was too over the top.
God I love Sissy Spacek!
There are outstanding performances in Kubrick movies but you feel Kubrick is calling the shots. You could say the same thing about Hitchcock.
Julie Harris in The Haunting
John Cazale. 5 movies all nominated for Best Picture
3 wins
Wow this was b4 POPEYE. Shelley duvall needs a comeback on all levels
Unfortunately she suffers from mental illness (schizophrenia I think) and is essentially unable to work now.
@@henn863 I disagree with that statement. The Dr. Phil show capitalized on her resolution to leave Hollywood and got word that she was making incomprehensible statements and he shamelessly took full advantage of her.
I wonder if Quentin Tarantino has ever seen Badlands
I wonder if Tarantino ever saw the Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3 or Wild At Heart ? ... haha
I love 3 Women. Great film.
I usually disagreed with them but loved the show because they could usually make a good argument to support their point of view.
I agree.
I tended to disagree with Gene more often than with Roger. But, I respected them both and love the intelligence in their analyses.
Anthony Quinn for Zorba The Greek.
fringelily fringelily He was nominated for that for Best Actor
C "X-Men Apocalypse" for Michael Fassbender's A+ performance
Jake Gyllenhaal for prisoners that pissed me off
9:58 Genevieve Bujold, yes! Oui, oui!
I love these presenters
Malcolm was so good.
Scott’s three laws. They’re what it is.
Now Will Smith has an Oscar, but sadly, that same night he made a damn fool of himself.
Left some "fresh prints" on Chris' face!
John Cazale was in only five movies. Maybe you're heard of them:
"Stan" in The Deer Hunter, 1978
"Sal" in Dog Day Afternoon, 1975
"Fredo Corleone" in The Godfather: Part II, 1974
"Stan" in The Conversation, 1974
"Fredo" in The Godfather, 1972
He worked with Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Sidney Lumet, Francis Ford Coppola, Robert De Niro, Christopher Walken, James Caan, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Harrison Ford, Carol Kane, Diane Keaton, Charles Durning, John Savage, and Meryl Streep
He was nominated only once. For Dog Day Afternoon, for a Golden Globe. The movie garnered seven Golden Globe nominations. It won none.
There is an excellent documentary on John, called "I Knew it Was You" - tinyurl.com/y444lo92
Interestingly, Archive footage of Cazale was featured in Godfather Part III, 12 years after his death. That film was also nominated for Best Picture, the Cazale streak continued after death.
What is touching/impressive is not just that list of actors you mentioned that he worked with, but how many of them would easily speak of him with nothing but praise. I know Pacino and Streep talked about him in interviews with praise.
It's crazy that that Eminem song "Stan" is, in fact, about John Cazale
Will Smith got an Oscar on the show where he did a stupid thing.
Poor Shelly Duvall
Ebert describes Shelley Duvall as having "off beat good looks." Off beat looks for sure, but "good looks?" Her acting talent aside I don't know anyone who would describe Shelley Duvall as good looking.
@Dr. killpatient That's not true. I lived through the 1970s and even then people would make fun of how ugly she was. I think she got roles because she was, as Ebert put it, off beat looking.
She was unusual looking, or 'off beat', but I found her pretty cute and sexy, esp in 3 Women.
@@waynej2608 You have interesting taste in women then it seems.
Homely
Haha. Heat. Come on.
They made up for lost time with julianne moore with Still Alice
How so?
Scot Wilson in The Ninth Configuration (1979), or anything.
In cold blood
@@jamesmack3314 Yep. Check out The Grissom Gang (1971). He plays essentially the same character.
Brokeback Mountain Call Me By Your Name
If you weighed 300 lbs, everyday you had to move that body around and had trouble going upstairs, but suddenly by a miracle, you weighed only 50 lbs, would you be able to be quick and fast like Michael Jackson or at least be as fast as the best basketball player, especially if you still had the muscles that moved you when you were 300 lbs, or would you be moving about so slowly like in the Kubrick film, “2001, A Space Odyssey,” in which people were moving about so slowly to make it believable that they were in either very low gravity. That’s why when only a few months later Neil Armstrong was running at 50% speed, people believed it to be on the moon, to this day, people think if you weighed 85% less, you’d be running at 50% the speed, while common sense would say if you weighed only 50 lbs while you still have the muscles that moved you when you were 300 lbs, you’d be as agile and acrobatic as the Spider-Man or at least be able to leap and jump like world’s best basketball player. Buzz Aldrin couldn’t jump up more than a few inches on the Nevada desert they referred to as the sea of tranquility. Take a tape measure and compare the opening of the Lunar Module (the contraption the amateurs made with cardboard and duct tape) and see if the 3-D printed exact replica of Neil Armstrong with the inflated spacesuit and the backpack could fit through the opening of the hatch. Kubrick was a professional filmmaker with amazing imagination, unlikely to imagine people would move about in low gravity at such slow motion, unless the 2001, A Space Odyssey was a propaganda film, designed to get people expect slow motion as evidence of low gravity. Neil Degrasse Tyson would never answer such question, how can science back such claims as slow motion in low gravity, spacesuits were never inflated in all Apollo missions, the lunar module’s 10,000 lbs of thrust did not disturb the powder like surface of the moon, and how can science back propulsion in total vacuum, what does the exhaust push against to move forward, if exhaust doesn’t slow down upon exit. Junk science also says that 13.8 billion years ago there was nothing, until suddenly there was everything. Why people Believe in such nonsense, is it the decimal point?
Cazale deserves a posthumous Oscar for lifetime achievement (all of which occurred in only 6 years). Shelly Duvall is worse than nails on a chalkboard, however.
Rotten shame that Harrison Ford always got passed up for an Oscar. I thought he deserved one just as much as Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive. Also look at his complex portrayal of Allie Fox in The Mosquito Coast.
He was nominated for Witness.
@@sha11235 True, but he didn't *get* the award.
Holy shit, a young Christy Lemire! She was a babe...
Youngish. She was 39 at the time.
It’s called “The Godfather”! Not “Godfather 1”
"Godfather: The Motion Picture -- Part I"
The godfather part 1 attack of the clones
What about Carrot Top in Chairman of the board.
1980. Things seemed to make more sense back then. Now everyone is more detached and acting is no longer serious.
And now Joaquin Phoenix has an Oscar too!
Ignat--a what?
Think about this peter sellers is the only actor to get an oscar nom in a kubrick film
Philip Moore Peter Ustinov won an Oscar for Spartacus, directed by Kubrick.
He was a great director but not a particularly great acting director.
Checks wiki.. wow how was D’Onofrio not even nominated for FMJ? Sean Connery Untouchables wutt?
Martin Shee-in???
ELVIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR FLAMING STAR.
It would have been nice if they said ”the academy” rather than “Oscar”... verbally anthropormorphizing the word, as if it was some guy making bad decisions instead of fellow actors, directors, writers, producers, etc
Funny you say that. I thought the same but you expressed it better than i could have
that is a butchering of cazale.
ca-zah-lay.
It's pronounced "Kahd zahl lay," not "kuh zaile..."
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Julianne Moore finally won a few years later.
Julianne Moore would win a few years after this.
Scott's 3rd law is false and it's proven by this video! Look at John C's work and tell me he's expressing joy in his work
Yea...ima listen to men about how to act as a woman, as a woman.
Where is the video of women criticizing men? 🤯
Dont look, will never see it
Martin Shehan.
These two millennials, bracketing the show, for some reason don't have NEARLY the film knowledge or eloquence of Siskel & Ebert. They have nothing to say about why these performances were so fine. They shouldn't even be on here. Nothing to contribute.
They were just bookending the program to explain why it was such an old rerun. Would've been weird without it.
Timothee Chalamet
Sucks.
He's a talented actor.
I've seen Dog Day Afternoon twice. What a piece of zhit movie that is. Never again.
Different opinion and I can respect that. I thought it was a great movie.
For me, Titanic...never again!
@@mrnocal Titanic also stole 3 hrs of my life
calql8er well you’re taste fucking sucks
calql8er and you ugly too
Wow, with all due respect, I'd have to say that your taste is in your ass.
2:44 Shame on Gene for describing Fredo as "goofy". Awkward, uncomfortable maybe, but to boil Fredo down to "goofy" undermines Cazale's understated and amazing performance. One of the greatest American actors who ever lived. Gene can be so condescending about people and subjects that are so much greater than he. Well, that's a critic for you.
Oh he is kind of goofy. Can't even keep his mouth shut about knowing Johnny Ola. Deserved to sleep with the fishes.