When I heard the news on the radio in my car that Gene Siskel had died I felt as though I had lost a friend, despite not having met him and not always agreeing with him.
@13:44-I love this show. Clearly both Siskel and Ebert both hate Friday the 13th, but what I love is how Gene is trying to talk Roger off the ledge because he is so over the top in his hatred for the film. Classic.
Over the years I found myself agreeing with Ebert more than Siskel but with regards to Siskel's response to Ebert's rant about teenagers, I agree with Siskel. I was one of those teenagers Ebert was ranting about in 1984 (I was 14); I thoroughly enjoyed Friday13th IV but I never took it seriously, it was a mindless bit of fun with some eye candy for a hormone-pumped teenage boy. Rodger's concerns were totally unwarranted, I saw all the films in the series and I turned out OK; now if you'll excuse, the guard just arrived to escort me back to my cell on death row here at San Quentin.
@@homelessjesse9453 I normally like Ebert over Siskel, but here, he's acts like a conservative Christian who scapegoats Dungeons and Dragons to scare his congregation and stay relevant.
It's just mindless trash, a movie about teenagers being murdered horribly by a guy with no personality or depth at all, it's devoid of imagination and merit, so I understand Ebert being so angry that it was so popular. Millions of teenagers wasted their money and time watching that shit when they could have watched something worthwhile
I don't think you'll be executed for a long time. And when they do that, they swab your arm with alcohol before they stick in the needle? Why? They afraid you'll get an infection?
The thing I really like about them is that they knew how to disagree with each other and not be gaping assholes about it. That's called disagreement, and it's something adults should be able to have without hating each other and/ or violence or insults.
I like the Friday the 13th franchise, although they're clearly shitty from start to finish of the series, but I still agree! It's fucking hilarious to watch Siskel & Ebert tearing the "The Final Chapter" a new asshole.
@@rustykuntz94 Well they got pretty heated over Benji: The Hunted as well. But yeah, I love their Friday the 13th reviews. As a big fan of the series, it cracks me up watching them do to the movies what Jason does to the average camp counselor.
$4.50 - $5 for a movie ticket!!! (; I love the director's cut of Swing Shift, have never seen the original cut of it. Christine Lahti is great in it, this along with Running On Empty and Housekeeping are her best movie performances.
When I was 14, this movie didn't rob me of hope, or think that I might be killed at any moment. The generational cold war and media boogeyman scare tactics of telling us we could all get nuked at any second did a fine job of that all by themselves.
Tenderfoot Prepper I wish I were as lucky as you. I saw Friday the 13th Part IV the day before I was going to leave town to join the Peace Corps. The movie robbed me of all hope for the future, and I ended up just selling loose cigarettes and bootleg music cassettes in an alleyway. Even today, more than 30 years later, I have the terrible, irrational suspicion that I might die someday. I distinctly remember that Crispin Glover’s dance scene in The Final Chapter was the moment my soul broke with an audible snap
Holy fuck. Roger is such a fucking rock star here. They’d never let anyone near the television with that kind of opinion these days. Roger was the Internet before the Internet...
I still make a joke about how the Friday the 13th movies went from "The Final Chapter" to "A New Begining." These two also gave thumbs down to "Better Off Dead."
I drowned at a summer camp, they killed my mom who killed a bunch of them, then I killed them back because of this film and now I can't die. Thanks, Friday the 13th.
I grew up with All the Friday the 13th movies and I always enjoyed Siskel & Ebert and seeing these guys trashing these movies never gets old. I absolutely love Gene's genius review of Jaws The Revenge.
These two never realized that their constant condemnation of the F13th movies is exactly what made people go see them. That was the appeal back then, everyone that was any sort of "authority" hated them and told you how terrible these were. Parents hated them, teachers hated them, politicians hated them and movie critics hated them. Everyone already wants to oppose these sorts of figures.
> i would love to see "can she bake a cherry pie" now. Friday 4 is one of the better horror films ever made. as was SWING SHIFT i also thought was more than just about the affair. good movie.
Roger is taking F13th far too seriously here.. it's not trying to convey any life messages to teens, it's camp, teens knew what they were going to see... just wanted to be scared
Friday the 13th (the continuing saga of one Jason Vorhees) ran on the concept of the wind-em-up JUGGERNAUT. He is going to continue going on a killing sprees until someone manages to come up with a way to vaporize him. I mean, Man! This is better demonstrated in the TERMINATOR franchise.
You have got it backwards. In general, they are completely average low-budget exploitation crap, (tending towards terrible more often) with the exception of some of the gore. Some asshole saw Halloween and said "great idea, this will make even more money if we do it way sleazier," and it did and they made it a hundred times in a row; Jason Vorhees' status in pop culture to this day alone is way way way more credit then they deserve.
The Friday the 13th rant here is so silly. It's a freaking movie. Nobody takes it seriously, certainly not teenagers. Nobody is going to get their world view from watching Friday the 13th.
I thought Goldie Hahn portrayed this character well ,and in this role her performance showed she had more range then what she was known for.....solid subject matter in history as well.....
After these dramatic roles were all dried out, Goldie Hawn went back to comedy and doing what she loves best. Some of the coolest stuff were Protocol, Wildcats and more.
Any movie that can make these 2 critics so upset must have something going for it! Lol! Wonder what they would have thought of the Hostel movies and the Human Centipede movies? ;)
I bet I would like PRIVATES ON PARADE. As a gay man, I typically love gay films as they speak to my sensibilities and humor. Plus, I have always loved John Cleese. On the other hand, I bet I would hate CAN SHE BAKE A CHERRY PIE? I found this one incredibly amateurish scene chock-full of over-emoting annoying enough. I couldn't imagine sitting through the whole film. It's funny that while I tend to agree with Ebert more than Siskel, in this show it's almost completely the other way around. Except for SWING SHIFT, which I think I would like, and FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH: THE FINAL CHAPTER, which looks jackass.
I saw it too and I thought it was okay. So New Line Cinema has finally decided to re-issued the Oscar nominated Swing Shift as a unrated director's cut in 1995, just like many director's cuts were all done in theaters such as Hairspray. Which was quite successful.
The final chapter is my favourite! Siskel & Ebert simply hated that franchise. I know they liked the first Halloween. I don´t know what they thought of the sequals in that franchise.
It always crack me up when a lot of films that was hated by them , did great in the box office marks , and friday the 13th all in the 80s from the original to 1989 VIII , always gived a hard time to this guys , hahaha it was funny to see the more that they hated them more people wanted to see them , for example ebert was ultra pist that the film did a lot of money at its opening weekend , why not? The movie was a good sequel with best jason kill ever , plus the return of savini to the show , i saw it in teatres and it was packt people didnt care about other film at that time it just said FRIDAY THE 13TH THE FINAL CHAPTER of 4 SOLD OUT , SOLD OUT , and the other films nobody cared , the power of the people that love or was intrested in what film critics hated , all the films that they love nobody cared and what they hated turn in to a cult or somethin , hahahah , but i still miss them , always
Love these two, but Ebert in particular is out of his mind regarding "a message" in Friday the 13th movies. Jason is basically some sort of "superhero" for purist nerds and outsiders who resents cool, popular teenagers who have parties, drink, do drugs and have sex.
In addition to acting, Goldie Hawn was also one of the co-financiers behind "Swing Shift - the Unrated Director's Cut" for Lantana Films, The Cosmic Entertainment Group, Ltd. and JB Enterprises, released by New Line Cinema, a Time Warner Company in 1995.
These guys made too much of a silly horror movie. Horror movies aren't made as critiques on society. Maybe some are but in general I believe horror movies are made purely for the fun of the scare. It's not an indictment on society that audiences liked watching people getting stabbed on the movie screen, it was just silly fun. It's better to have that catharsis watching on a movie screen than act it out in real life. You can't put that snobby movie purity rubric on a horror movie. It's not made for that reason. I think movie critics in general even nowadays hate horror movies because they're movie snobs and you just can't be that way when watching a fun horror movie.
I am a ghost. I went to see Fridaythe13th the Final Chapter. 20 mins after film ended. My whole theater going crowd went in parking lot. We all committed suicide. Roger Ebert nailed this
Roger always hated the success of Friday the 13th more than the movie itself. I don't believe he actually watched these movies all the way through, as from the first film he doesn't even know the twist, and compares the first to Halloween. He and Siskel both praised Halloween(which is the prototype for all the tropes) as if it was so different. Funnily enough, as a kid, I remember that the more upset he was, the better I thought the movie would be.
Halloween is very different to Friday Series- at least the original - Compare the 2, you don't see the gore like you do in Friday - It is not exploitative - and actually - Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Black Christmas came out way before Halloween and also handled the violence very well
Funnily enough, Roger gave a fairly positive review to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, calling it "well made, well acted, and all too effective", and said it was an "off the wall achievement". Even more amazingly, he gave a glowing review to the original Last House On The Left, awarding it 3 and a half out of 4 stars. lol
Sara Kane and deservedly so. Compare those movies to just killings with just gore to up wat the last sequel did. That's wat they always complained about and it's a correct assessment
I don't think the Friday series is worth the scrutiny they give it. I think it's a dumb series of movies that entertain some and that's fine. But to take them so seriously is a waste of serious criticism.
I like the perspective these reviews gave. They're contemporary opinions of the slasher genre in 1984. Friday the 13th: Part IV was standard fare for the period, but this was 6 years after Halloween popularized the slasher genre in North America. Siskel and Ebert praised Halloween, but hundreds of copycats films had been made since then. This also represents a halfway point in the genre's success. Meta slashers like Scream took over in the 90s.
Ebert sounds really angry because the film was massively successful and grossed higher than any other film that week, and that is a pathetic fact in itself. It says awful things about American teenagers back then.
@@TofuEatingZombie I honestly never considered Halloween a slasher movie. There wasn't really any gore or graphically bloody violence in it. It may have helped spawn the slasher genre, but I wouldn't call it a slasher movie.
I agree. Ebert went off the deep end in his criticism on this one IMO. To say it's going to make people think it's a bleak reflection on real life is quite extreme.
Why does he think Friday the 13th movies are depressing and sad? didn't he understand the concept of a thriller was? of loving being scared? their speech really feel like two out of touch of old men saying "kids these days". Like the old farths crapping on rock n Roll in the 1950s.
Funny that siskel and ebert paraded against the slasher genre which is something many enjoy. I agree it's wasted criticism, they shouldn't have bothered watching most of these films. But remember siskel didn't like taxi driver because of the violence but later praised pulp fiction. He grew up 😝
is this where Kurt and Goldie met? awww. i have never cared for slasher films they just arent my thing, so this isnt some case of me whining because they dont like the film i like. but why do they even review them? they are so obviously biased towards them and openly state how much they dislike them on it seems like every other clip i watch of them. so if they are so openly hostile towards them and loathe them and their audience so much then why even review them. Jesus Christ get over yourselves.
Before "Swing Shift" at New Line in 1984, Academy Award winner Goldie Hawn and Emmy Award nominee Kurt Russell were appearing in a Disney musical flick from 1968: "The One and Only, Genuine, Original Family Band" which was the first movie they've appeared in together and on "Swing Shift," their relationship remains strong.
They're spot on the Friday the 13th film, and films. Bunch of crappy shit made by losers to exploit gore and violence. And horrible acting. Except Friday the 13th Part 2 had decent acting, but the plot was disgusting. Halloween, the first film they recommend was better acting, and lest violent when it came to gore, which didn't have that quality. Ebert said he compared it to Hitchcocks Psycho. I agreed with him on that reviewe. More chilling and suspenseful.
When I heard the news on the radio in my car that Gene Siskel had died I felt as though I had lost a friend, despite not having met him and not always agreeing with him.
Man, I miss Ebert.
@13:44-I love this show. Clearly both Siskel and Ebert both hate Friday the 13th, but what I love is how Gene is trying to talk Roger off the ledge because he is so over the top in his hatred for the film. Classic.
SkinsFan 44-HTTR He said that Roger was getting up on his soapbox. That was funny there
I remember this well.
Over the years I found myself agreeing with Ebert more than Siskel but with regards to Siskel's response to Ebert's rant about teenagers, I agree with Siskel. I was one of those teenagers Ebert was ranting about in 1984 (I was 14); I thoroughly enjoyed Friday13th IV but I never took it seriously, it was a mindless bit of fun with some eye candy for a hormone-pumped teenage boy. Rodger's concerns were totally unwarranted, I saw all the films in the series and I turned out OK; now if you'll excuse, the guard just arrived to escort me back to my cell on death row here at San Quentin.
What? But it's the early 80s though. Everyone knows that if you listen to Judas Priest or play D&D, you'll automatically start worshipping Satan.
@@homelessjesse9453 I normally like Ebert over Siskel, but here, he's acts like a conservative Christian who scapegoats Dungeons and Dragons to scare his congregation and stay relevant.
Lol
It's just mindless trash, a movie about teenagers being murdered horribly by a guy with no personality or depth at all, it's devoid of imagination and merit, so I understand Ebert being so angry that it was so popular. Millions of teenagers wasted their money and time watching that shit when they could have watched something worthwhile
I don't think you'll be executed for a long time. And when they do that, they swab your arm with alcohol before they stick in the needle? Why? They afraid you'll get an infection?
I think it's funny that out of all the films in this episode, Friday the 13th: Final Chapter is probably the one remembered most.
That was one of the greatest rant on a movie I ever seen. At 13:45 . I lmao while Ebert was ranting about Friday the 13th.
The thing I really like about them is that they knew how to disagree with each other and not be gaping assholes about it. That's called disagreement, and it's something adults should be able to have without hating each other and/ or violence or insults.
The angry hateful leftists won’t allow it!
Imagine being at Friday 4 in the theater and looking back and seeing Ebert sitting there with a concerned look on his face as kids go nuts.
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lol
Thank you for posting these full episodes. I miss these guys.
Brings back memories.
Yes it does
If they do get taken down again, go to siskelandebert.org. That website is where these are from.
@@sha11235 - Thanks. I will do that.
The Friday the 13th review is hilarious!
Yeah, Roger really was pissed off.
That was as upset and heated as I ever saw Ebert
I like the Friday the 13th franchise, although they're clearly shitty from start to finish of the series, but I still agree! It's fucking hilarious to watch Siskel & Ebert tearing the "The Final Chapter" a new asshole.
@@rustykuntz94 Well they got pretty heated over Benji: The Hunted as well. But yeah, I love their Friday the 13th reviews. As a big fan of the series, it cracks me up watching them do to the movies what Jason does to the average camp counselor.
Who is gonna take real world lessons from a supernatural slasher?
I really liked Swing shift. It's where Goldie and Kurt Russel met.
And they're still together today nearly 40 years later
Same
$4.50 - $5 for a movie ticket!!! (;
I love the director's cut of Swing Shift, have never seen the original cut of it. Christine Lahti is great in it, this along with Running On Empty and Housekeeping are her best movie performances.
When I was 14, this movie didn't rob me of hope, or think that I might be killed at any moment. The generational cold war and media boogeyman scare tactics of telling us we could all get nuked at any second did a fine job of that all by themselves.
Tenderfoot Prepper I wish I were as lucky as you. I saw Friday the 13th Part IV the day before I was going to leave town to join the Peace Corps. The movie robbed me of all hope for the future, and I ended up just selling loose cigarettes and bootleg music cassettes in an alleyway.
Even today, more than 30 years later, I have the terrible, irrational suspicion that I might die someday.
I distinctly remember that Crispin Glover’s dance scene in The Final Chapter was the moment my soul broke with an audible snap
@@mymangodfrey Did it turn you into a dead fuck though?
Jesus, Roger Ebert was so hostile towards Gene Siskel in some of these earlier shows. Thank god he mellowed out in his later years.
Paul Johnson I know right! They are just movies guys......fucking relax man!
It's frustrating when you're around somebody who's acting like their intellectual and they're actually kind of simple-minded
Paul Johnson he's right though
Holy fuck. Roger is such a fucking rock star here. They’d never let anyone near the television with that kind of opinion these days. Roger was the Internet before the Internet...
I still make a joke about how the Friday the 13th movies went from "The Final Chapter" to
"A New Begining."
These two also gave thumbs down to "Better Off Dead."
Both classics in there own right.
I drowned at a summer camp, they killed my mom who killed a bunch of them, then I killed them back because of this film and now I can't die.
Thanks, Friday the 13th.
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I grew up with All the Friday the 13th movies and I always enjoyed Siskel & Ebert and seeing these guys trashing these movies never gets old. I absolutely love Gene's genius review of Jaws The Revenge.
These two never realized that their constant condemnation of the F13th movies is exactly what made people go see them.
That was the appeal back then, everyone that was any sort of "authority" hated them and told you how terrible these were. Parents hated them, teachers hated them, politicians hated them and movie critics hated them. Everyone already wants to oppose these sorts of figures.
Always loved the announcer in these trailers like Friday the 13th. That was better than the stupid shit films.
Today they’d have an annoying female cartoon voice!
> i would love to see "can she bake a cherry pie" now. Friday 4 is one of the better horror films ever made. as was SWING SHIFT i also thought was more than just about the affair. good movie.
Roger is taking F13th far too seriously here.. it's not trying to convey any life messages to teens, it's camp, teens knew what they were going to see... just wanted to be scared
True, at least Gene Siskel understood that
Friday the 13th (the continuing saga of one Jason Vorhees) ran on the concept of the wind-em-up JUGGERNAUT. He is going to continue going on a killing sprees until someone manages to come up with a way to vaporize him. I mean, Man! This is better demonstrated in the TERMINATOR franchise.
"An immoral and reprehensible piece of trash " 😂😂😂😂
C'mon Rog...what do you really think?
Thumbnail image should be the new trollface for 2019.
They don't give the "Friday the 13th" films enough credit.
In general, they are skillfully made in terms of suspense and gore.
lol ... no they're not. A 13 year old could make a Friday the 13th movie.
I guess that's why they have Tom Savini - the greatest makeup artist for gore of all time - working on the films.
+Tommy Udo
That must be a pretty talented 13-year-old then.
You have got it backwards. In general, they are completely average low-budget exploitation crap, (tending towards terrible more often) with the exception of some of the gore. Some asshole saw Halloween and said "great idea, this will make even more money if we do it way sleazier," and it did and they made it a hundred times in a row; Jason Vorhees' status in pop culture to this day alone is way way way more credit then they deserve.
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No, Jason has rightfully earned his place in popular culture.
goldie is so pretty.....
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The Friday the 13th rant here is so silly. It's a freaking movie. Nobody takes it seriously, certainly not teenagers. Nobody is going to get their world view from watching Friday the 13th.
How come they go up the same staircase, but end up on opposite sides of the balcony.
Are these two guys Dead Fucks? Kidding. I grew up watching Siskel and Ebert and enjoyed the show. The music intro is great!
Yeah, they have both left us now.
Lets run it through the computer..
Tap tap tsk tap..
Yes. The computer says they're dead fucks, and the computer don't lie..
Little known fact Gene Siskel posed for the little hawk that messes with Foghorn Leghorn in Looney Tunes cartoons
I wasn't one of the people who contributed to the box office success of Friday the 13th Part 4, or any of them.
In my Christian Bale voice "Oh good for you."
Because Friday the 13th wasn’t playing at the porno theaters
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Kurt Russell's real name is Jody
I thought Goldie Hahn portrayed this character well ,and in this role her performance showed she had more range then what she was known for.....solid subject matter in history as well.....
After these dramatic roles were all dried out, Goldie Hawn went back to comedy and doing what
she loves best. Some of the coolest stuff were Protocol, Wildcats and more.
Triggered lol
Upcoming films in 1984
Any movie that can make these 2 critics so upset must have something going for it! Lol! Wonder what they would have thought of the Hostel movies and the Human Centipede movies? ;)
Roger Ebert was still making reviews when Hostel and Human Centipede and it's sequel came out.
I bet I would like PRIVATES ON PARADE. As a gay man, I typically love gay films as they speak to my sensibilities and humor. Plus, I have always loved John Cleese.
On the other hand, I bet I would hate CAN SHE BAKE A CHERRY PIE? I found this one incredibly amateurish scene chock-full of over-emoting annoying enough. I couldn't imagine sitting through the whole film.
It's funny that while I tend to agree with Ebert more than Siskel, in this show it's almost completely the other way around. Except for SWING SHIFT, which I think I would like, and FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH: THE FINAL CHAPTER, which looks jackass.
Right.
Saw Swingshift, thought it was okay.
I saw it too and I thought it was okay. So New Line Cinema has finally decided to re-issued the Oscar nominated Swing Shift as a unrated director's cut in 1995, just like many director's cuts were all done in theaters such as Hairspray. Which was quite successful.
It's not mostly girls getting killed. It was 7 men and 7 women. Unlike almost all horror movies, more men die than women.
The final chapter is my favourite! Siskel & Ebert simply hated that franchise. I know they liked the first Halloween. I don´t know what they thought of the sequals in that franchise.
They rightfully hated them!
It always crack me up when a lot of films that was hated by them , did great in the box office marks , and friday the 13th all in the 80s from the original to 1989 VIII , always gived a hard time to this guys , hahaha it was funny to see the more that they hated them more people wanted to see them , for example ebert was ultra pist that the film did a lot of money at its opening weekend , why not? The movie was a good sequel with best jason kill ever , plus the return of savini to the show , i saw it in teatres and it was packt people didnt care about other film at that time it just said FRIDAY THE 13TH THE FINAL CHAPTER of 4 SOLD OUT , SOLD OUT , and the other films nobody cared , the power of the people that love or was intrested in what film critics hated , all the films that they love nobody cared and what they hated turn in to a cult or somethin , hahahah , but i still miss them , always
Jeez they ain’t no Clive James or Barry Norman.
If this had been cable, Roger wouldn't have said trash, he'd have said shit.
Love these two, but Ebert in particular is out of his mind regarding "a message" in Friday the 13th movies. Jason is basically some sort of "superhero" for purist nerds and outsiders who resents cool, popular teenagers who have parties, drink, do drugs and have sex.
Yeah, he's really off the deep end here.
RIP, KAREN BLACK
I love swing shift thumbs up great movie e
After this Friday 13 final chapter there was a lot more of them. The money keep it going. Ebert was right!
12:13 I remember some of the male kids at school really loving slasher films, and victimizing women. I've never understood that. I still don't.
Why do they get so angry...lol....I love these two..but man....
Goldie demanded cuts to the film because Christine Lahti was stealing scenes with the help of the director!
In addition to acting, Goldie Hawn was also one of the co-financiers behind "Swing Shift - the Unrated Director's
Cut" for Lantana Films, The Cosmic Entertainment Group, Ltd. and JB Enterprises, released by New Line Cinema,
a Time Warner Company in 1995.
These guys made too much of a silly horror movie. Horror movies aren't made as critiques on society. Maybe some are but in general I believe horror movies are made purely for the fun of the scare. It's not an indictment on society that audiences liked watching people getting stabbed on the movie screen, it was just silly fun. It's better to have that catharsis watching on a movie screen than act it out in real life. You can't put that snobby movie purity rubric on a horror movie. It's not made for that reason. I think movie critics in general even nowadays hate horror movies because they're movie snobs and you just can't be that way when watching a fun horror movie.
I am a ghost. I went to see Fridaythe13th the Final Chapter. 20 mins after film ended. My whole theater going crowd went in parking lot. We all committed suicide. Roger Ebert nailed this
Roger always hated the success of Friday the 13th more than the movie itself. I don't believe he actually watched these movies all the way through, as from the first film he doesn't even know the twist, and compares the first to Halloween. He and Siskel both praised Halloween(which is the prototype for all the tropes) as if it was so different. Funnily enough, as a kid, I remember that the more upset he was, the better I thought the movie would be.
Halloween is very different to Friday Series- at least the original - Compare the 2, you don't see the gore like you do in Friday - It is not exploitative - and actually - Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Black Christmas came out way before Halloween and also handled the violence very well
Funnily enough, Roger gave a fairly positive review to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, calling it "well made, well acted, and all too effective", and said it was an "off the wall achievement". Even more amazingly, he gave a glowing review to the original Last House On The Left, awarding it 3 and a half out of 4 stars. lol
Sara Kane and deservedly so. Compare those movies to just killings with just gore to up wat the last sequel did. That's wat they always complained about and it's a correct assessment
The real difference of course, is the likes of Wes Craven, John Carpenter, and Tobe Hooper are/were incredible film makers, and real artists.
He didn't see all of them, but he did sit through the ones he talked about on the show.
I don't think the Friday series is worth the scrutiny they give it. I think it's a dumb series of movies that entertain some and that's fine. But to take them so seriously is a waste of serious criticism.
Hallinilla9 siskel and Ebert take everything seriously,
I like the perspective these reviews gave. They're contemporary opinions of the slasher genre in 1984. Friday the 13th: Part IV was standard fare for the period, but this was 6 years after Halloween popularized the slasher genre in North America. Siskel and Ebert praised Halloween, but hundreds of copycats films had been made since then. This also represents a halfway point in the genre's success. Meta slashers like Scream took over in the 90s.
Ebert sounds really angry because the film was massively successful and grossed higher than any other film that week, and that is a pathetic fact in itself. It says awful things about American teenagers back then.
@@TofuEatingZombie I honestly never considered Halloween a slasher movie. There wasn't really any gore or graphically bloody violence in it. It may have helped spawn the slasher genre, but I wouldn't call it a slasher movie.
I agree. Ebert went off the deep end in his criticism on this one IMO. To say it's going to make people think it's a bleak reflection on real life is quite extreme.
Why does he think Friday the 13th movies are depressing and sad? didn't he understand the concept of a thriller was? of loving being scared? their speech really feel like two out of touch of old men saying "kids these days". Like the old farths crapping on rock n Roll in the 1950s.
the Friday films are about survival against an evil person that is the point
come on, it's about the killing, not the surviving.
Roger > Gene
Ebert seems like the cynical one here.
Funny that siskel and ebert paraded against the slasher genre which is something many enjoy. I agree it's wasted criticism, they shouldn't have bothered watching most of these films. But remember siskel didn't like taxi driver because of the violence but later praised pulp fiction. He grew up 😝
is this where Kurt and Goldie met? awww.
i have never cared for slasher films they just arent my thing, so this isnt some case of me whining because they dont like the film i like. but why do they even review them? they are so obviously biased towards them and openly state how much they dislike them on it seems like every other clip i watch of them. so if they are so openly hostile towards them and loathe them and their audience so much then why even review them. Jesus Christ get over yourselves.
It was part of their job to watch all kinds of movies.
Before "Swing Shift" at New Line in 1984, Academy Award winner Goldie Hawn and Emmy Award
nominee Kurt Russell were appearing in a Disney musical flick from 1968: "The One and Only, Genuine,
Original Family Band" which was the first movie they've appeared in together and on "Swing Shift,"
their relationship remains strong.
They're spot on the Friday the 13th film, and films. Bunch of crappy shit made by losers to exploit gore and violence. And horrible acting. Except Friday the 13th Part 2 had decent acting, but the plot was disgusting. Halloween, the first film they recommend was better acting, and lest violent when it came to gore, which didn't have that quality. Ebert said he compared it to Hitchcocks Psycho. I agreed with him on that reviewe. More chilling and suspenseful.