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In this video, we take a look at what I consider to be the "Top 10" best payware aircraft available (on the PC) for Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
I have attempted to be objective when compiling this list and tried find a balance between quality, cost, variety and fun-factor. Let me know which addons you feel should have been included / excluded from the list etc?
Full Aircraft Reviews:
1) • Now THIS is "Study Lev...
2) • PMDG Boeing 737-700 | ...
3) • The most comprehensive...
4) • Just Flight Hawk T1 | ... / • Just Flight 146 Profes...
5) • PMDG DC6 | Real Pilot ...
6) • Flysimware - Cessna 41...
7) • Black Square Analog Ki...
8) • SimWorks Studios Quest...
9) • MILVIZ FG-1D Corsair |...
10) • Product Reviews
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Congrats @fenixsimulations - on a job well done! - Ігри
Thanks for featuring our Wilga on the list! It's an honor! Seeing the amazingly positive feedback from the community really made all those sleepless nights worth it. I know for a fact every member of our team will have a huge smile when they see this one. Esp GotGravel as he worked on both the Wilga and Spitfire respectively, as a Dev for both our team and FlyingIron Simulations.
Best wishes for an amazing year ahead of flight sim content ITBS!
Wilga is Polish for "wonderful airplane", right?? It is an amazing addition to my virtual fleet
My absolute pleasure Skoots (and the team)! The Wilga is an exceptional piece of work (as is the Spitfire) and the aircraft was thoroughly deserving of being on the list (whittling things down to just a handful of addons, was no easy task!).
Thank you very much for all your hard work throughout the year! All the best to yourself and the team in 2023 (I’m excited to see what’s next haha : )
@@diederikkinds5283 Nope. "Wilga" means "Oriole" (a bird).
Probably the best quality commentary within the flight simulator community, so engaging, clear and concise (as you'd expect from a Pilot). Always very objective and balanced reviews. Thank you.
Thank you very much GW! That’s very kind of you to say and thoroughly appreciated. I’m really glad you’ve been finding the content fair / useful : )
My pleasure and all the best to you in 2023!
Thank you for your reviews throughout the year and the top ten list. You have always been fair and honest in your reviews and top ten lists. Thank you and have a great 2023!
Thanks very much Andrew! My pleasure on the videos - I’m glad you’ve found them useful / fair. Cheers and all the best to you in 2023! : )
Great rundown and really highlighted the strength of some addons that I had not paid much attention to up till now. Thanks again for the fantastic and well considered content!
Thanks very much Bobby! I’m glad you found the list useful and that it has perhaps given you a nudge towards a few other interesting addons.
My absolute pleasure on the vid! Cheers and all the best : )
Another really interesting top ten. Thank you for compiling this and for all your excellent and very helpful reviews throughout the year.
Thanks very much Snowy! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video and indeed some of the other content throughout 2022!
My absolute pleasure and all the best to you in 2023 : )
Great end-of-year rundown! It's a testament to MSFS that limiting your choices to the "10 best" gets more and more difficult.
Thanks very much Part121, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
100% haha; the first year it was a pretty easy task to choose a top 10, last year was very tricky and this year it was virtually impossible (without leaving out some very worthy / excellent addons). The 2nd half of the year was a little more quiet in terms of product releases, but no doubt we’ll see some great addons in 2023!
Cheers and all the best : )
Thank you for this very objective list and all of your hard work producing these videos throughout the year.
Thanks very much Daniel, my absolute pleasure on both counts! I’m glad you enjoyed 2022’s content, all the best to you in 2023! : )
Always love your 'best of's. Clear, concise & impartial reviews. Also, including the little teases of planes I'd love to have. Still waiting for the Hawk T-1 to come to Xbox, but I'm enjoying flying some of your other recommendations, so it makes the wait a little easier. Hope you had a good Christmas & New Year.
Thanks very much AS! Haha indeed - hopefully almost all of these recommendations will become relevant on the Xbox, in the not too distant future. I had a brilliant Christmas thank you! I hope you did also and that 2023 has gotten off to a good start : )
Cheers!
appreciate your work ItB. ps, love the backing track!
Cheers Marshie! Haha yeah - a little bit of nostalgia for many, I'm sure!
I hope you had a brilliant Christmas / New Years. All the best for 2023 : )
A great job all year, your reviews are always worth watching, thanks muchly 👍👍
Thanks very much CP! Thoroughly kind of you to say and very much appreciated. My pleasure and all the best! : )
Another great video, I'm really glad you included the Mighty Corsair and mentioned the Porter.
Thanks very much Danko! I’m glad you enjoyed the list and that there were one or two of your own favourites in there (the Corsair is a personal favourite of mine).
Cheers and all the best : )
G’day mate, you’ve done it again. Excellent review as always. Totally agree on the C310. I’ve now got close to 200 hrs in the 310 in the sim and have enjoyed every minute of it. As a GA only sim pilot it pretty much ticks all of the boxes for me.
Thanks again for all of your reviews though the year. They have all been, without exception, excellent. Have a great new year. All the best.
Many thanks indeed for the very kind words Chris! I’m really glad you felt the list broadly hit the nail on the head. Brilliant to hear that you’ve been enjoying the content throughout 2022 and once again, your support is very much appreciated!
Cheers and all the best to you in 2023 : )
thank you for a great top 10 and happy new year! really excited to hear the the Turbo Arrow is getting an update, still my go to GA plane. I also read that the spitfire has a substantial update in the works including CFD and damage system, hopefully it scores higher in your 2023 top 10 :)
My pleasure on the video Lior and a very happy new year to you also! Yes, it will be nice to get back into the Arrow again and that’s great to hear about the CFD / damage modelling upgrade for the Spit (it’s amazing how far that addon has come since release).
Cheers and all the best to you in 2023 : )
I recently purchased the Piper Arrow III/IV, the Cessna 310, PMDG 737-600, and Fenix A320. I think that'll keep me busy for the whole of 2023!
That Arrow is nice eh? I find myself jumping in the IV more than anything recently. I also grabbed the 737-600, but went with the C414 over the 310. I'm obsessing over the Fenix but I got the DC-6 instead while it was on sale.
Very nice Dragon! Yes, that should certainly keep you pretty busy for a while haha. Happy flying and all the best : )
@@bobbyrutz9402 how's the 737 600
No Cessna 414 Chancellor ? It is amazing , I love it 😍
Hi Gustavo,
The FBW isn’t included, primarily because this is a list of the Top 10 MSFS ‘payware’ aircraft : )
I hope that clarifies things. All the best!
Very well made video with a well thought out top '10'. Thank you.
Thanks very much Paul, kind of you to say! My pleasure and all the best to you : )
Thanks for this. I've got most of my add on from your reviews.
You’re most welcome Optiled - my pleasure! Really happy to hear that you’ve been finding the content / reviews useful : )
Cheers and all the best!
Happy new year to you my friend, thanks for all content, you have educated me as well as entertained me. Gary
Happy New Year Gary! Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m really happy to hear that you’ve been enjoying the content and it’s brilliant if you feel like you’ve picked up a thing or two along the way. My pleasure! All the best to you in 2023 : )
Very nicely done.👌I was looking forward to your next Top 10 - what a pleasant surprise. I was glad to see a couple of my favourites (Porter & Spitfire) jointly make no 10. Just a little disclaimer though - I haven't tried any of the other aircraft mentioned on the list.
Cheers Incar, I’m glad you enjoyed the list! The Spitfire is one of my own personal favourites, one of the addons I’ve had the most use out of. It was very tricky trying to narrow it down to “10” addons this year though, there are just so many great options for MSFS these days!
All the very best to you in 2023 : )
GREAT review and diversity on the list. Certainly something for everyone. As you know, I like a propeller or two but I DID buy the Vision Jet (based on your review) and it is the perfect platform to get into the G3000.
Carpe Diem my friend! !! !!!
Cheers Mark! Yes, I tried to include a little something for everyone haha and luckily we have plenty of choice in the sim these days. I’m glad your punt on the Vision Jet was a worthwhile one and that you’re enjoying the aircraft (it’s definitely a nice step up from your average GA offering - crazy how sophisticated some GA stuff is these days haha).
Thanks and happy flying! : )
A dependably useful and well presented guide on how to use our finite funds. Thank you.
Thanks very much MS, very kind of you to say! My pleasure on the video, I’m glad you found it to be of some use.
Cheers and all the best : )
Great video, thanks!
My pleasure Robert, I’m glad you enjoyed it! All the best : )
Happy new year! Your always my go to for aircraft reviews. Bought the fenix 320 and fs academy vfr cause of your reviews. I've landed at that airfield at 0:15 in the real world! Thanks for the reviews.
Hello Daniel,
Thanks very much for the kind words and a very Happy New Year to you also! I do hope you’re enjoying the Fenix A320 and getting some value out of FS Academy then : )
Is that Sumburgh at 0:15? That’s an airport I’ve always wanted to visit in the real world actually (I’d love to visit the Orkney / Shetland islands in general).
My pleasure on the videos. Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Nah the grass strip at 0:15 is Matamata in new zealand (NZMA). Im looking forward to world update 12 next month which is new zealand! All the best to you also!
Ahh, I’m with you (I think the 15 sec mark was the crossover between the two clips). I love sim flying in NZ, so I’m very much looking forward to WU12 also! Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yep looking like a good update, devs said it should be coming out around 6th or 7th of feb to celebrate waitangi day in NZ. Cheers!
I’m very much looking forward to that then (although I think I might be working over those days)! I’ve already got a flightplan / aircraft in mind for a WU12 video ; )
Cheers!
You are far and away the best aircraft reviewer for MSFS.
Not really. After the top 3 the rest of the list is pretty awful.
Thank you very much indeed Jarrod! It seems not everyone agrees about that haha, but I very much appreciate it nevertheless! ; )
Cheers for all of your support throughout 2022, all the best to you in 2023 : )
Haha, I seem to recall we had the same discussion last year FSX. Obviously I’m inclined to disagree with regards to the list being “pretty awful” but by all means, feel free to share your Top 10 - sincerely : )
All the best!
Being a real life GA pilot, I am not spending a lot of time flying commercial jets (I find them too technical and don't have the required skills)but I do agree with your list, which I can see has been very carefully picked. I haven't yet made the jump to purchase the King Air steam gauges "upgrade" but it will definitely be next on my list. My two favourites GA planes right now are indeed the 414 and the 310. I find personally find the 414 flight model more realistic but it may be due to the lack of experience I have with both these planes IRL. The 310 has a tendency to fall like a brick when you get closer to stall speed, which made me do a few hard landings. Don't know if this is true to life but made the experience for me a bit less less enjoyable. A very good list, thanks for the time spend on this and the hard work, this is really appreciated
Cheers Cyril!
We all have different tastes of course and it’s great that most preferences are now catered for in the sim. I’m sure you’ll enjoy the King Air if you’re into your GA flying. I’ve no real-world experience with the 310 either, but I gather the low speed behaviour that you speak of, is in fact true to life (it nearly caught me out during my review of the aircraft haha).
My pleasure on the video! Thanks for watching : )
Brilliant as always!
Thanks very much once again Richard! I’m glad you enjoyed it. All the best : )
I'm sure you're already aware but speaking of good things for MSFS, someone pointed me in the direction of FSLTL the other day. Totally free and can be used to either inject traffic based on FR24 or you can use it for very simple but yet great model matching on Vatsim.
If you're interested and didn't check it out already, you're in for a treat buddy 👍
Thanks very much for the pointer Richard! I have tried FSLTL previously and it is indeed excellent. I’ve chosen to stick with AIG for now, as it suits my own needs better (there are a couple of reasons, but it’s a bit convoluted to get into here), but FSLTL seems to be the best option currently available.
Cheers : )
Great video, much enjoyed it. My favourites of 2022 were the Flying Iron Spitfire, Ant's Tiger Moth, Black Box's Version 2 Islander and the Kodiak. I also bought Flying Iron's Hellcat, but just can't warm to it as yet. The DC-6 remains gorgeous, even if you just sit in it on the ground, gazing round the cockpit. I'm waiting for the SWS De Havilland Dash 7, but since they handed it over to PILOTS, it seems to have gone dark. Not optimistic about that one any more. No matter, keep up the good work in 2023.
Thanks very much Paul, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Haha, seems you have a bit of a penchant for the British classics then (can’t say I blame you! ; )
I was looking forward to the Dash 7 also and had been lead to believe it was on a short final. Things do seem to have gone a bit quiet, but perhaps PILOTS fell behind on the schedule and then it was Christmas / New Years etc. Who knows, but fingers crossed.
Cheers and all the best to you in 2023! : )
Thank you for all your wonderful videos in the past year, and looking forward to your new videos in 2023! I recently listed all my payware planes in MSFS (currently 42) and gave them ratings from 1 to 5 stars. An impressive 14 planes received 5 stars. Too bad I don't have time to fly them all ... But after a slow start, MSFS now has an impressive array of excellent 3rd party planes, ranging from small, simple ones like the Sting S4 or Tiger Moth to the super realistic Fenix A320 and PMDG 737. Because I don't have that much time for simming, I prefer simple GA planes and short flights. But one day I would love to fly the DC-6, 737 and A320 ...
Thanks very much Volker, I’m really glad you’ve been enjoying them! MSFS has certainly come a long way in the last year or so; as you say, far too many great addons to know what to do with these days haha.
Happy flying and all the best to you in 2023! : )
Very fair assessment of the Fenix A320. The developers have always been very transparent with their progress/issues. I think for Fenix's ongoing success that they will need to offer some variants at some stage this year, plus perhaps start to look at the widebody market (hint A330) which is sorely lacking a study level aircraft.
Cheers CV! I certainly feel that Fenix really just went above and beyond with their A320. I don’t know when the IAE / sharklet variants are due, but they are certainly on the way (and once again my hat goes off to Fenix for making those free!). I would love to see an A330, though I had heard some rumours that a 737CL might be next on their radar (I guess if they stick with their ProSim philosophy, that could make sense) - I’d love to see that also. Whatever Fenix come up with next, I’m fairly confident it’ll be great.
All the best! : )
Thanks buddy for all the videos in 2022. You make the hobby easier to navigate for newbies and veterans alike. Well done.
Still its disappointing this list didn't have a certain hot air balloon in it? 😁
Thanks as always Chris! That’s very kind of you to say and genuinely appreciated - I try my best to pitch in and help with the hobby where I can : )
Haha, the HPG Hot Air Balloon probably did deserve a mention also. Perhaps once HPG have created an envelope version with my face on it, the addon will make its way onto the list! XD
2022 was a pleasure - here’s to 2023! I hope you had a great Christmas / New Years yourself. Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ditto buddy. Lets hope for a productive new year in MSFS. Exciting times ahead. I look forward to your review of the FSS E-Jets early access lmao 😂👍
Totally agree with you with the best GA aircraft superb. A very well positioned top 10 if I may say so.
Cheers Mav, I’m glad you felt the list broadly hit the nail on the head! It’s getting very tricky to pick a Top “10” these days ; )
Very good choice on the Corsair at #9, just wish she would get some love as a few things are broken due to sim updates. She shows the real potential of a proper warbird in the sim and I wish other devs would add such extensive features especially the working chart board.
Cheers JW!
Yes, the Corsair is one of my personal favourites also and is (I would argue) the most complete warbird in the sim. The FG-1D could indeed use an update though; the flight model is rather “quirky” these days during the takeoff and the landing, presumably as a result of the more recent sim updates (as you say). I do hope MILVIZ will update the addon, though sadly nothing seems to be very forthcoming at the moment.
Thanks and all the best! : )
Great choices, nice touch having 9 a/c in 10th place. They all deserve recognition imho. Thanks for another thoughtful and useful presentation!
Cheers Arther! Arguably, I was cheating haha, but there are just so many addons that do deserve at least some recognition (as you say). The list certainly isn’t going to be any easier to make next year ha!
Many thanks and all the best : )
Impressive list. There really are more great aircraft than free time these days. I took the challenge and tried to make a top 10 list of the payware aircraft I own. I'm not a real world pilot so these are basically ranked by how enjoyable they are for me to fly and perceived quality I guess.
10. Carenado Cessna 337
9. Aerosoft Twin Otter
8. FlyingIron Spitfire
7. Blackbird Pilatus PC-6
6. FlightFX Hjet
5. Aerosoft CRJ 900/1000
4. SWS Kodiak 100
3. PMDG DC-6
2. Blackbird Cessna 310
1. PMDG 737-600/800
Cheers Øystein!
Haha, fortunately / unfortunately you’re 100% correct - there are far too many enjoyable addons in MSFS, to know what to do with these days. The Carenado C337 is another one that I enjoy also, but haven’t had the opportunity to fly in ages; the Twin Otter is great fun as well (and the new soundset was a welcome update).
Thanks for the list! Happy flying and all the best : )
The fsw 414 is definitely one of the best GA aircraft I've ever owned in a sim.
MSFS2020 aircraft addons are becoming better and better and I also have 1/2 the aircraft in this video, in the Kodic and PMG737, but not all the other commercial jets found in this video. However i love the JF P28R Arrow and after purchasing it 2 yrs ago. It's still one of the best in the sim, with a great flight model, with its simplicity of handling, Amazing graphics, inside the cockpit makes it a joy to spend time in and t's still my go-to aircraft, 2yrs later.
And I'm surprised it's not in the top 5.
Hi Ian,
The Arrow is indeed a cracking aircraft but as you say, MSFS addons have been going from strength to strength and personally (it is only my opinion of course) I feel that a number of addons have surpassed the Arrow at this point. I still very much enjoy the product myself (this list was not my own personal top 10, rather what I consider to be the most accomplished addons) and I still think featuring on the list is a pretty decent achievement, given the number of addons now available for the sim.
Again though, it’s only my two pennies worth - food for thought and nothing more ; )
Cheers, all the best!
I very Enjoyable and satasfying video Thank You
Many thanks Mike! As always, I’m very happy to hear that you enjoyed it : )
Cheers!
A nice list with not much to argue over. However, I do think that the Hot Air Balloon should have got an honourable mention!😀
Cheers John!
A few people have commented that the HPG Hot Air Balloon ought to be on the list - that suggestion is just a load of hot air if you ask me! XD
but no, the the HPG balloon probably was worthy of mention also, it’s a superb addon. The “trouble” is, there are just too many great addons these days haha.
Thanks again and happy new year! : )
A great list, really appreciate your hard work and thoughtful input to making the list. Every choice supported by your brief but cogent description. So many great aircraft, so few hours...
I was willing to spring the extra few dollars for the Maddog because I really like the aircraft, and even though I agree the default textures (at least in the cockpit) leave a lot to be desired for an MSFS product, the recent updates to it with their new external client to work around some MSFS limitations with the ACARS and CPDLC (if you're into that) warrant the extra few dollars IMHO. Excited to see where they go with it.
Likewise Joe; if this list was my own personal Top 10 (ie the addons I enjoy the most myself), the Maddog would definitely have made the cut. I find it one of the most enjoyable jets to operate, the texturing doesn’t bother me all that much and the FTSim soundpack takes care of the MD-80’s other shortfall. There’s no doubting the Maddog is a great offering, it’s just hard to recommend (in terms of pure quality vs price) as compared with the competition.
All the best good sir! : )
Question, what graphics settings do you have your sim on? Amazing video as always :)
Hi TT,
My settings are basically as follows:
- “High End” preset
- Pre-Cache = Ultra
- Terrain and Object visibility sliders set at 125% (sorry, I forget the actual names of them)
- Motion Blur = Off
- Glass Cockpit Refresh = Medium
- AI Traffic = Off
- VSync = On / 60fps
That gives a nice balance between graphics and performance. I only run at 1080p. The things I’ve turned off / down are known to be famerate hogs.
I hope that helps a little. Im really glad you enjoyed the video, thanks and all the best! : )
100% accurate! The Fenix is next level no doubt. Just look at the wheel wells. Crazy!
Cheers EKM, I’m glad you feel the list (and indeed the Fenix) hit the mark! All the best : )
I agree with the #1 pick the Fenix A320 is a great study level aircraft.
Cheers Carlos, I’m glad you feel I managed to hit the nail on the head! The Fenix A320 is indeed a cracking addon : )
All the best!
Yep agree with all of this, top stuff.
Cheers Mark, I’m glad you feel that the list broadly hit the nail on the head! All the best to you in 2023 : )
Great list, although B247d deserves a shout in the 10th place
Thanks very much Marek!
I did consider the B247, but sadly the aircraft has some significant bugs that never got fixed up and perhaps more importantly still, Wing42 seem to have gone very quiet. . . That was my reasoning at any rate, though it is still a nice addon at its core.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I’m currently thinking about some around the world trip and looking for some jet to do it in.
Would you have any suggestions? For now I’ve thought about CJ4 but I’m open to some payware options, as currently I’m in love with C310 and A320
Hi Rabbitow,
If you’re looking to do the trip in a jet, I think I would have to suggest either the Fenix A320, or the PMDG 737. There are other nice options out there, but those are the only 2 jets with the option for random failures and a persistent state (if memory serves me correctly) and that sort of thing really enhances the whole round-the-world “experience” (I made the same undertaking myself a few years ago and having to think about failures etc, really added another level of depth onto the whole trip).
I hope that helps a little. Cheers and best of luck with it all! : )
I would love to know wht is your zoom setup inside the cocpit
As usual, thank you for your reviews. Between you and AvAngel our wallets get emptied quickly hahaha.
You’re most welcome PTW, my pleasure! Haha, I blame AvAngel entirely of course! : P
Cheers and all the best! : )
You mentioned that Black Square regularly updates their planes and they’ve received numerous updates. I own their Velocity XL and since I bought it months ago it’s been stuck at version 0.1.1 with non-functional AC and the advertised door seals feature which is supposed to lower engine noise on activation also doesn’t work. I love the aircraft so I’m disappointed that they won’t fix these simple things.
Hi MW,
To be fair, I don’t think I did make such a claim in this video, but perhaps you’re referring to my specific videos on the Caravan / King Air? I’m afraid that I can only really comment on the experiences I have had with various products / developers myself; both the Caravan and the King Air have received timely / significant updates, but I’m sorry to hear that the same has not been true for the Velocity XL (I don’t own the addon myself, so wasn’t aware). I do hope that Black Square are able to address your issues in due course.
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes, this was not in the King Air section and without re-watching an unknown amount of video I can't tell where I heard this anymore. In any case, no slight against your video, I'm just venting because they made my favorite GA aircraft but it just has a few annoying small pieces that I wish they would fix to make it perfect. ;)
As always thanks for the list, as I'm not following all addons so closely. And as always I have few remarks :-D
First spot was certain, but I have to say due to bad performance thanks to 3rd party phoenix app (30% cpu utilization on 3700X is really big hit in CPU heavy MSFS) I'm flying other tubeliners for some time. It might good to mention that for your first place, as it seems it's flawless product to users who are out of the loop to avoid disappointment if they have worse than state of the art pc.
Also personally I would put any FlyingIron product, especially Hellcat above Corsair. While I loved it after release, after Hellcat was released, I haven't touched it anymore and probably never will, as it's practically dead product, while FI products still receiving quite big updates from time to time. What also bothered me since beginning on Corsair is it has no suspension, I can't believe thats true to real thing. Hellcat feels much more natural on takeoff and landing with it's custom ground handling (of course I have 0 experience with RL warbirds as 99.99% of userbase) and much more enjoyable to flight. Spitfire will receive same custom ground handling in next update. FI products are also more practical with it's optional avionics, but I guess that's not for everyone. Perhaps you could said more details, where FI products are "lacking fidelity". I personally could not care less if any MSFS aircraft has working machine guns or something like that. But that's just my opinion. I'm maybe slightly biased as Hellcat is my most used aircraft with it's utility for world vfr sightseeing :-D
Thumbs up for still including jewels like hawk, 146 and DC-6, I'm still flying them often even they are not much popular as before.
Sorry for lengthly comment :-) Cheers
Hi Tomas,
Cheers for your comments ; )
I probably should have made mention of the Fenix’s FPS hit yes, but I always forget about that aspect of the product, as that’s not really an issue I’ve ever seen with the Fenix A320 personally (it has always run ok on my system, for whatever reason). I don’t tend to like making comments based on other users experiences, otherwise things can end up all over the shop, but I certainly take your point.
I pretty much agree with you regarding the Corsair, but once again this list was not based on my own personal Top 10 addons (rather the addons I consider to be the most accomplished). The Corsair is starting to show its age at this point and could use some fixes in fairness, but it does have a number of features that the FlyingIron warbirds are lacking - hence why I chose to keep the addon in the #9 spot. If MILVIZ don’t offer up any fixes before the next list though, I could see the aircraft sliding out of contention. The Spit is still my personal favourite warbird in the sim, with the Hellcat coming a close second.
Thanks as always for your thoughts! Much appreciated : )
Thank you for another excellent review! What is the airport ID at 11:52?
You’re most welcome RCHeliz, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
The airport is Queenstown, in New Zealand (NZQN). It’s a beautiful location and well worth a visit : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
I just wanted to know. PMDG and the Aibus can be used on MSFS 2020? I use to use these on the old simulator
Hi Ryley,
Yes, this video was covering MSFS addons - the PMDG 737’s and the Fenix Airbus are currently available for the platform. It is worth noting though, that either would require a new purchase (the P3D version of the PMDG 737 does not work in MSFS for example).
I hope that answers your question? All the best : )
Great video, starting to look forward to these round ups each year.
Can anyone tell me if the C414 Chancellor still requires third-party software for some of the hardware bindings? (Batteries, Fuel Pumps, Starter switches etc.)
Thanks very much Floydrix! I’m really glad that you enjoyed the video, all the more so if you were anticipating it ahead of time haha.
I’m afraid I don’t know the answer to your question - sorry about that. I do hope someone else might be able to fill you in.
Cheers and all the best! : )
¡Feliz Año Nuevo! 💙
and to you sir! I hope you had a brilliant Christmas / New Year. All the best in 2023 : )
Shocked to find out I have all of these add-ons already
Haha, well it sounds like you have a pretty great selection of addons then Diederik! ; )
Happy flying and all the best : )
25:55 What are you using to get those natural camera movement? It feels so good to look at
Hi Nimislak,
I'm using a head-tracking device called "TrackIR" for the camera movements. It's great, although a little pricey. There are cheaper / freeware alternatives available though, should you wish to give it a go for yourself : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you man I will give it a try
You’re most welcome! : )
What features do you feel are missing in PC-6 conpared to Kodiak? Passenger models? And with the flight model, anythibg particular stands out? I am thinking between those two, and PC-6 seems to offer more value for money so far. Floats, skies, steam gauges and all.
Hello again Igor,
I’m afraid I can’t really comment too much on the subject. I haven’t had the chance to fly either aircraft in quite some time and actually haven’t flown the Porter since it was released (the aircraft has subsequently been updated significantly). Feature-wise, the two aircraft are broadly comparable. In terms of the flight model, the Porter used to suffer from the typical MSFS taildragger issues during the takeoff (though that may have been corrected since) and the Kodiak’s flight model felt more natural overall. In terms of “fun factor”, the PC6 takes the crown and since V2 was released, you do generally get more bang for your buck overall (as you mention). Again, it would be difficult for me to offer up an opinion, not having experience with either addon in its current state. If you want a practical, useable STOL aircraft, I’d go with the Kodiak. If you want to go bashing around the bush and having some fun, I’d go with the Porter.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Fenix push the boundaries both in sim world and the pc requirements..thats why i still prefer PMDG 737..but i love them both but Fenix i can litterally only use in small airports and land in small while I can go where i want with PMDG 737 ;)
Haha, fair point Daniel XD
I never had too many issues with the Fenix personally (perhaps because I only run at 1080p), but I know the addon can tend to hit people’s systems pretty hard. The PMDG 737 is brilliant also of course and of the two addons, I probably spend more time with the 737 as well (primarily because it makes a nice change of pace) ; )
Cheers, all the best!
Hey, Amazing video! This should be in the top 10 of all aviation content! (My puns are never funny) Although considering getting the BN2 Islander because I cannot find any good aero commanders for the flight sim. What would you rate it and do you recommend any other planes?
Hey Pixels,
Haha, thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
The Islander isn’t bad; nothing special and rather dated in the visuals department, but certainly not bad. Everyone speaks pretty highly of the Trislander (it has more fidelity than its 2-engined counterpart) but, I just can’t get past the looks of that thing haha. I did review the Islander, so that video might be of some help: ua-cam.com/video/sGqJgLmrCbI/v-deo.htmlsi=a9miseN0LHj6X193
So far as recommendations go, obviously this list incorporates most of my favourites. Other more recent additions, that aren’t covered in this list include; the Black Square TBM, A2A Comanche (a very special addon), the Carenado Beech 18 (though only with the Denarq mod installed) and the Asobo / Orbx Caribou. All are great addons and offer good value for money. I have reviewed each of the aforementioned aircraft so, hopefully you might find some of those videos useful also.
I hope that helps a little? Thanks again and all the best : )
Thank you for the help will definitely consider all of the above! a2a is looking very enticing!@@IntotheBlueSimulations
You’re most welcome! : )
What do you think of the a330-900 from Headwind ?
I couldn’t actually say Magic. I’ve tried the freeware A330-300 that was kicking around for a while, but I’ve yet to try the 900 - I probably should!
Cheers, all the best : )
My question is do these add on aircraft support the MSFS auto flight computer programming? In other words do I " Have to", program the flight computer manually, ( Cold dark start) ? , Or can I just select an IFR flight prior to " Fly" as usual !
Hi TFFY,
It’s not something I’m all that clued up on to be honest, but I think it’s fair to say that typically, most of the more complex addons do not support flight planning via the World Map. Certainly, for a couple of the addons featured here, you’d be required to input data into the FMC manually. Many addons do support importing a flightplan from Simbrief (which will do a lot of the work for you), but Simbrief itself requires a little bit of learning etc.
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best : )
For me there are extra factors beyond the product itself:
* PMDG & Milviz get dowrnrated by me for lack of timely bug fixing / updates. The DC-6 has had longstanding issues with performance that PMDG just washed their hands of & eventually it seems foriced Asobo put their experimental menu in & then forced us to use an experimental feature to somewhat solve - and now there's a problem with the autopilot & I don't expect a fix anytime soon, going on how long doing anything has taken in the past. Their lack of responsibility has put a stop on me buying any other PMDG product - I don't care about their past reputation. Milviz have just known about issues in the 310 & the Corsair ( although as I don't have the Corsair I'm not really au fait about it ) and promised updates, and taken forever to deliver partial fixes. I have more faith they'll get round to fixing everything than I do of PMDG, but I'm rather more wary of them as a developer than I'd expected to be a year ago. The 310 dev did catch covid, but their promises continued rather than saying "there will be a hold in development". I can put up with the latter, which leads to...
* Justflight were in a somewhat similar situation to Milviz regarding updating products to match sim updates, but first of all came out and said they weren't going to update until the sim settled down a bit, and secondly *are* actually now updating old products and have a public test programme going on right now. Anyone who wants the Pipers or the Hawk should be aware of that. I've worked with JF in the past, I still regard them as a dependable & friendly operation, if not the most nimble.
* Meanwhile FlySimWare seems to put a new update for the 414 out every week! I'm not expecting that to last as they add more products unless the 414 developer(s) stick only to the 414, but the development rate on that aircraft is a bit nuts & sets a high bar for everyone else.
The Wilga is the best single engine GA aircraft available right now, I think ( if you discount WW2 fighters ). I'm not sure what extra functionality you really needed! at this point I also rate the 414 way higher than the 310 - all the Milviz aircraft wins on is engine sounds & dirt buildup ( and the fact it's a lighter aircraft ), the handling is rather wierd at the moment.
Think you can do a quick roundup of utilities? I don't know what state GSX is in, for instance.
PMDG said they have a big update for the DC6 coming "soon". I agree with your point of view anyway, as soon as they have a new plane, here the 737, they put aside the previous drastically!
I agree, I think that the dc 6 is getting pretty dated at this point to my knowledge. I also think that the Wilga is underrated is my opinion. Iv had the most fun in that aircraft than any other addon. what else would someone want from an aircraft? It has plenty of features and Easter eggs. I personally think that it is a very realistic addon not that I know very much about the Wilga, but
after seeing many reviews, it does seem that it is a realistic representation.
Hi RD,
All very valid points for sure. PMDG could certainly stand to be more timely with their updates, but I can only really go off my own experiences; the DC6 autopilot is wonky for me at the moment, but that’s really the only major issue I’ve had with any of the PMDG products I’ve flown so far (perhaps I’ve just been “lucky” and always ended up flying them in between bugs).
MILVIZ do tend to have the same problem, but I gather (at least for some of their projects) a number of their workforce were / are Ukrainian-based so. . .
Just Flight are still right up there for me, although I perhaps do have some bias (not that I would let it sway my overall conclusions), given that they’ve been very “supportive” of the channel and I’ve also been a loyal customer of theirs for 15+ years at this point!
The Flysimware 414 is an excellent addon and one certainly can’t fault them for their timely updates (they are almost so regular, as to be annoying haha), but it isn’t perhaps a fair comparison, since they only had the one project to focus on (and any Wigeon purchasers might hold a different opinion haha).
In short, there are certainly more factors that could be taken into account as you say, but I tried to keep things somewhat simple and just focus on the addon itself (since none of the devs have done anything that I consider to be egregious).
As far as utilities go, I haven’t really tried enough of them to offer up an opinion I’m afraid. I did finally get around to buying GSX; gave it one go, saw 3 cargo loaders drive up to the front *pax* door, had passengers coming out the roof of the aircraft and cargo loaders somewhat stack up on top of each other. It may well be that I need to set up / configure the app further, but that was enough for me, to take a little sabbatical from the addon haha XD
Cheers for your thoughts! All the best : )
You forgot the MD 82 from Leonardo, it is at least equal with the PMDG
It's at the start of the video in the shared #10 spot.
Hi Eva,
As Øystein points out, I included the Maddog in the joint number 10 spot. I very much enjoy the MD82, but I feel that the addon is “overpriced” (vs the competition) and sadly lacking in the sound / texturing department - hence its palace on the list.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
Great informative video thanks . I would like to as quesiton , according to your hardware you are using Thrustmaster warthog , do you use it Fenix 320 too . Because its look impossible to figure fight detenst position especially reverse section . Any advice highly apreciated .
Hi Ergenekon,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you found the video useful!
I do indeed use the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, for all of the addons that I fly. Detent positions can be a little tricky: I tend to eyeball the CLB / FLEX / TOGA detents. For reserve thrust, I have that bound to a button instead and use the “decrease throttle setting” bind (or something to that effect). Basically, I bring the throttles back to idle and then hit that button to activate reverse thrust - it seems to work pretty well.
I hope that helps! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations You are so kind thank you for your reply .I'm acting the same as you said I found this solution and its quite fine for me ... Again thanks for your time and lovely videos..Best...🎉
I’m glad you managed to get things sorted! Cheers : )
I’ve been told the A320 can be a bit of a handful on your computer is this a known thing or is there anyway around that?
In terms of performance / FPS you mean IB? This is true; I’ve never had any major issues myself (probably because I’m running the sim at 1080p) but many have commented on the Fenix A320’s FPS impact. Fenix does give the user a couple of options to try and mitigate the issue (namely the ability to change the render settings of the displays), but the addon hits the FPS fairly hard either way.
I hope that clarifies things a bit. All the best! : )
whats the airport you're landing at in the King Air?
Queenstown - New Zealand : )
For the Fenix I was wondering why you said that the system modelling wasn't spot on, could you give some example of that?
Hi OTI,
There’s a few things I’ve noticed myself and a few things that I haven’t tested, but that others have mentioned. A couple of examples would include:
- Inaccurate engine simulation (although I suppose one could file that under flight model)
- Cockpit vintage not matching up with aircraft capabilities (eg whilst I haven’t flown an Airbus with the older ADIRS configuration myself, I gather those airframes are not capable of RF legs, whereas the Fenix Airbus is).
- With blocked pitot tubes, the aircraft responds to the sim speed, as opposed to the speed the aircraft is registering.
That’s just a few of the examples I’ve come across. I know Fenix is working on some of the issues and either way, I still think it’s an incredible piece of software for the price!
I hope that answers your question a little? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the answer, asked the same question on reddit where Aamir took to the keyboard and update us on some of those issues
You’re most welcome! That’s awesome - great to hear how proactive Fenix continue to be. Cheers : )
Good list and all planes I have myself, what about the CRJ range.
Enough unresolved bugs in the Aerosoft CRJs that I refuse to give Aerosoft any more money.
Hi 11x,
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed the list : )
I still enjoy the CRJ, but personally I don’t think it’s Top 10 worthy these days. As I mentioned during the video, to some degree I went for a “best in class” approach and there are a number of other, better commercial jets out there these days (in my opinion).
I hope that clarifies things. All the best!
Nice list! What do you think of the A310 from inibuilds? No mention worthy?
It’s not payware 🤷🏻♂️
A310 is included in the sim for free.
@@dyeahna ah offcourse, didn't read correctly
Hi Rick,
I very much enjoy the A310, but didn’t included it on my list for the reasons discussed below. If I were to include the aircraft, I’d say that it is broadly on a par with the Just Flight 146, so I’d have placed it around the number 4 spot.
I’m glad you enjoyed the list! Cheers and all the best : )
my brain is fully busy by waiting milviz/blackbird corsair update, so i can't be adequate for choice something. can say, when i see pdg dc-6 i want disassemble it for assemble p-47:)
Haha, are we getting an FG-1D update?? That's awesome news!
I was quite surprised to see that FlyingIron are going with the BF-109 / FW-190 next; they have a P-47 in X-Plane, so I thought that would logically be their next MSFS addon also. I'm sure we'll see the "Jug" at some point though ; )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations would be cool, however somebody can say hellcat, corsair and thunderbolt are same lol... yes. support guy from blackbird forum said, she is comming... but as always doesn't said when lol... said they working on compatibility for maverick addon(native hook/wire behavior, i guess)
Whats your take on the CJ Simulations Eurofighter, IE was holds it back from being a decent payware aircraft? I'm assuming it needs a lot more work on it.
I realise you enjoy civilian aircraft, so I was little curious to know what hold back the Concorde from being present in your top ten too. I only own the Hawk from your list, so I'm often looking for aircraft that reach the standard of love given to it.
Has the CJ Sim team even been near a Typhoon? I'm dubious of the forthcoming DCS version and that's led by an ex-pilot; full capabilites of any current serving combat aircraft are classified ( mostly ) which is why pilots familiar with types generally reckon DCS aircraft underperform - but DCS products are worked on for years before release, and then worked on for more years afterwards to try and get them closer. I'd consider it likely that MSFS devs can get trainers fairly close ( hence being ok with the Hawk ) but these combat jets taking a few weeks to develop? I'd consider it lucky if they were even 5% of the real thing.
@@Karibanu Indeed, it shows too.
Yeah I have DCS myself, the MSFS flight models don't even come close. I'm seeing way too many aircraft in the market place which look nice but whose flight characteristics resemble paper airplanes.
I've not heard good things authenticity wise from people who were ground crew for Typhoons. I personally haven't touched it due to the lack of custom sounds and the price point (its a bit steep).
@@WWXspartan058 Cheers, I'm glad I'm not alone on this then. I couldn't see enough criticism of these points during it reviews and like you both said, I doubt these people have ever been near one in reality. Apart from the modelling which doesn't even look high fidelity, it basically a reskinned F-18 sold at £30, shame.
@@Jcee4 And it's not like the F-18 is great ( or even good ) in the first place.
Thank you for a great year with great reviews - saved me a lot of money.
Great list too. But of course different of mine.
My list is very short.
Cessna 414 . Wish it was similar to 310 with failures and maintenance. But the 414 cockpit is more easy to read. Heavier aircraft, more power and pressurized cabin.
A year ago, GA aircraft should only navigate the old VOR way. But now I learned to love the Garmin 750. World moved on since my more active days in aviation.
My other aircraft on my list is off course PMDG 737-700.
Immersion depth last year was now doubt increased significantly with fsrealistic pro and fsltl traffic. I like to add Simbrief too, for my 737-700 flights.
Thanks very much Øystein! I’m certainly happy to hear that the videos have been aiding you in your purchasing decisions.
Wow, I struggled to cut things down to 10, but it seems you have a very streamlined virtual hangar haha (a very nice selection indeed though!).
Happy flying and all the best for 2023 : )
Can the Fenix be flown point to point with autopilot engaged the "dumb" way or does the user need to have a solid knowledge of the real systems?
Hello again Allen,
I can give you a somewhat more resolute answer this time; “no” haha. You *could* fly the aircraft point-to-point in HDG mode, but really you’ll need a solid knowledge of the MCDU, in order to navigate / operate the Fenix A320 accurately.
I hope that clarifies things a little. Cheers : )
Thanks! I just guess I need to put the effort in to learn these systems to truly enjoy them, just tend to be "lazy"@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Need to see an update vid on this list
Indeed, Jay. I’m working on it, as we speak ; )
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ….nice
I would perhaps say the 737 is a bit above the a320, given we can get a almost same level a320neo for free with tablets etc.
Fair enough, Chirs; again, this list is only based on my opinions at the end of the day. I take your point re the FBW A320, but the Fenix A320 offers a much deeper simulation of the aircraft overall - both options are great though, as is the 737 : )
Cheers, all the best!
which version is the a350 in msfs?
Apologies SO, but I’m not sure I quite understand the question. Currently in MSFS, there is no version of the A350 available (I would love to see a decent one though!).
All the best : )
The older planes are not represented. B727, L1011, F4 phantom, uh1 and UH60.
Hi Dean,
If you mean in the list specifically, unfortunately none of those aircraft are currently available for the sim. We should be getting an F4 fairly soon though and I gather a UH1 is in the works. I’m a big fan of older aircraft, so I’d love to see a 727 / L1011 also : )
All the best!
How does this King Air compare with the default King Air which is free?
Also I cannot find it in the marketplace
Hello Sean,
The short answer, would be that the two aircraft are almost incomparable haha. The Black Square King Air does share the same external model and default sounds (and therefore the addon won’t be to everyone’s tastes) but otherwise, just about everything has been overhauled and the end result is a much more detailed simulation of the aircraft. I did actually review the addon, so that’s by far the easiest way I can provide you with some more depth in answering your question: ua-cam.com/video/3T1A5LnrAp0/v-deo.htmlsi=OB5ZAk6ePumJx3l9
The Black Square King Air is only available from the Just Flight website - the addon is not available from the Marketplace, I’m afraid.
I hope that helps? All the best : )
This needs to be updated. If I used the video as advice, I would have missed buying the A2A Piper?
Hi WBL,
It will be. Realistically, I can’t update the list each time a new addon comes out; I typically put out a new top 10 list at the start of each year (and will be doing so again this coming January : )
Cheers, all the best!
Just wondering what your general thought process is for gauging how good an aircraft systems are?
I love your vids btw
Hi James,
Well obviously there are no hard and fast rules for gauging such things, but I basically consider there to be a few broad categories, in terms of what I look for:
1) Basic modelling of essential systems - many controls not operable etc.
2) Most / all controls are operable, though many may be “just for show”, with no associated systems effects etc.
3) All controls are operable and have associated systems effects, even is the system is just visibly modelled (rather than any complex modelling going on behind the scenes). Eg operating the pressurisation system will show the correct values, even if the system itself isn’t really being modelled.
4) All controls operable and with associated systems modelling behind them.
5) The same as #4, but with complex modelling of the systems. Systems will show nuance and differing values based on current conditions etc (as per A2A aircraft).
6) The same as #5, but with wear and tear, failure modelling / programming etc.
I generally judge the aircraft’s systems, based on which category it falls into. Anywhere between 2-3 is good enough for me and anywhere between 3-4 I would consider study level, though I know many others would disagree on that one haha.
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes haha...I am making an aircraft of my own..not sure how good it will be but I am working on it...Just wanted to see what your are looking for haha so you will like my plane.
Ah I see haha. Well for what it’s worth, any level of fidelity is good with me. All I really care about it quality (an addon can still be high quality, without being “study level” and an honest product description from the dev is always a big plus. Best of luck with it all! I look forward to seeing what you come up with : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks so much! Thinking of making a study level beechcraft baron :)
No footage of the Wilga?
Hi PLekh,
I did give the Wilga a “notable mention”, at the start of the video; I think it’s a great addon but, personally, I wouldn’t say that it’s one of the top 10 addons available for the sim.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best : )
How about the flybywire A320neo?
Hi Hiepvu,
Whilst excellent, the FBW A320 is a freeware project - this list focuses on payware addons : )
I hope that clarifies things. All the best!
What is the difference between 'price point' and 'price'?
Hi Paul,
Well, to my mind at least; the “price”, is what is being charged for the addon. The “price point”, is the cost vs what *could* be charged / what the competition are charging. Eg, one could pay $35 for both the Bredok3D 737 / PMDG 737-600; both addons are sold at the same price, but the Bredok3D 737 sells at a high price point for its overall level of quality, for the 737-600, I consider the opposite to be true.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
The Corsair flight model was always kind of disappointing to me so I consider the module more eye candy than a fun module to fly. The Corsair flies way too straight for a warbird. It should have a lot of yaw during power changes. Also, the ground handling is typically terrible for MSFS taildraggers.
None of your points are unfair / unreasonable Joshua but I don’t know, there’s just something about the Corsair that I find eminently enjoyable haha. The aircraft might not fly accurately, but somehow I think it still “feels” the part. I do hope MILVIZ give the FG-1D the CFD treatment at some point though - the aircraft is long overdue an update.
Cheers, all the best! : )
11:47 can you please tell me what airport this Is, it’s stunning!
Hi CoolDash,
That’s Queenstown airport (NZQN), in New Zealand : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you :)
You’re most welcome : )
I would disagree the FENIX is number 1, purely because there is so many issues with the realism of the product, it's very performance heavy and the refresh rate of the displays is lower than others. I am no PMDG fan boy but the 737 is a more complete package in my opinion.
That’s fair enough Alex. I’m not a fanboy of either product myself and both addons certainly have their strengths and weaknesses. For me, the Fenix just feels more revolutionary, with its excellent tablet, unheard of pricing (at the time), superb texturing etc. Of course personal preference will always play a huge part also though.
Cheers, all the best! : )
At 10:40 what airport is that ........ Thanx
Hi Peter,
The airport is St Barts (TFFJ). It's well worth a visit and is also the location of one of the MSFS landing challenges.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations - Thank you
You’re most welcome! : )
All for MSFS PC i am guessing?
Hi Mark,
Yes, the list rather focuses on the PC version of the sim (since that’s all I own), though some of the addons covered are available on the console and yet more should be introduced onto Xbox in the future.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
What about the crj :l
Hi Jo Ta,
I still enjoy the CRJ, but personally I don’t think it’s competitive with the likes of the PMDG 737, Fenix A320, Just Flight 146 etc. As I mentioned during the introduction, I somewhat went with a “best in class” approach to the list, so I felt there were already more than enough commercial jets on the list. The CRJ could have placed in the #10 spot also I suppose though. . .
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best : )
yeah in terms of the justflight pipers i hope they sort this twitchy flight model malarky out cause it ruins it for me - and being a plane i've flown a bit in real life i want nothing more than it to feel more realistic to fly
Drop Martyn ( NORTMAR I think on the MFS forums ) a note & ask for a copy of the beta flight models - the Warrior is definitely a wallowing hippo again, the current ridiculous MSFS turbulence doesn't do any aircraft much favours but 3rd parties have little control over that.
@@Karibanu thanks dude, and yeah the turbulence is almost at a point where flying light aircraft is not as enjoyable anymore. Asobo really need to make it a priority to address the issue really but I have a feeling that they are somewhat ignorant to the matter for some reason. It could also be a factor that 3rd party devs aren't implementing the cfd model or something... So perhaps causing conflicts of flight models maybe? I dont know but yeah, defo needs addressing by asobo.
@@coder236 It affects FMs with CfD too - the effects seem canned at the moment - eg there's no difference if you fly slowly or fast, the plane will get kicked about just as hard, only if you're slow the kicks will sequence more slowly, obviously. After going and doing some aerobatic routines in DCS I'm starting to believe there's a problem with overall force scaling in MSFS, as if the atmosphere is just too thick. That'll cause problems *everywhere*.
Hi Coder,
Just Flight are apparently working on it as we speak. As Richard points out, you can even get in touch with them to request a beta version of the new flight model, should you so wish. Hopefully we’ll all see the update in the not-too-distant future.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Hi! BEST fighter?
Hi LP,
I’m actually putting out an updated “best addons” list, this Friday. If you can wait for that, all will be revealed ; )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks! If that video is "tier list" mode much better! ☺️
It will be. The “best” fighter jet, will definitely be covered : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks!
Need a boeing 727, T38, F4, md11. New planes are boring.
I don’t mind some of the new stuff, but I do prefer the older stuff. Any of those on your list would be great! There is actually an F-4 and an MD-11 planned for MSFS. . .
Cheers Dean, all the best! : )
What does a guy have to do to get a high fidelity business jet?
A much legitimate as an airliner!
Have to see what WorkingTitle do with the Asobo Cessnas, might just come to us without spending anything.
Haha, that’s a good question Exile. Although as Richard alludes to, the default Longitude looks like it’s going to be pretty great with the next avionics update (never actually flown it, so not sure what the flight model is like etc)! We’ll see : )
Cheers!
@@Karibanu Doubt they’ll go as in depth as I’d like. I’m talking along the lines of the Hotstart CL650 for xplane.
The Milviz 310 is actually the worst GA twin for MSFS. The single engine handling is terrible, the systems are poorly modelled, and the flight model is terrible.
Hum the Milviz in 3rd and the 414 in 6th? Milviz capitalizes on there 310 since fsx on the opposite Flysimware created a "new" airplane for MSFS! Yes the 310 is great but for me the 414 is greater! Of course all this is relative 😁
I have both however despite the 'from the ground' development of the 414 and the sheer detail with the interior and the exterior features (working dip sticks, tray tables, engine inspection points, etc). I support the ranking by ITB with the 310 being higher. The circuit breakers work, there is failure modelling, and there is such flexibility in how you choose your 'ownership' of the aircraft (rent, own, etc). But in terms of its flying behaviour, I do feel the 414 has a slight edge. My opinion however but both are great (virtual) fun! 😁 To ITB, thanks again for another wonderful and informative review!
@@dazmat Flysimware is almost a one guy developper! Circuit breakers trip are on the do list as far as I read !
Have both, the 310 does feel real. The 414 is too easy to fly, not the real deal.
@@bluebrus while I prefer the 310 overall their flight models feel pretty similar to me. I’ve not flown either in real life but I’m curious where does the 414 not feel real?
@@bluebrus Did you fly a 414 IRL? The tech advisor Joe has one and I suppose the flight model is faithfull to the real one.
The Fenix is great but slightly over-rated. I can't even use the Gravity Gear Extension, which x-plane has had for years and MSFS has with the free FBW (which also has a functional printer which I love.) Definitely prefer the PMDG 737's over the Fenix (but again it's still a wonderful plane, but just overrated...)
Hi Shawn,
That’s fair enough, we all have our own preferences of course. For what it’s worth though, the gravity gear extension definitely works on the Fenix A320; it just so happens I made a video covering its use haha (I run though that around the 39:40 mark): ua-cam.com/video/yvOr2cS6Knk/v-deo.html
Cheers and all the best! : )
Don't you think it would have been wise to put "AIRCRAFT" in the title? You say Payware Addons in the title only. So one would assume you mean ALL addons made for the sim to date. Not only you know "AIRCRAFT"
Sure AS, it’s no skin off my back to change it haha. Done! ; )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The reason I made this comment was because I'm always on the hunt for the best addons. But thanks.
*cries in Xbox* 😂😢
Haha! Sorry William XD
Most of these addons *should* make their way over to the console eventually though, just as soon as the WASM coding issues get fixed up : )
All the best!
First 2:30 is just filler
Hi Mike,
I’d have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. Wishing people a happy new year seems harmless enough and the rest of that 2:30, mostly pertains to what we’ll be covering in the video / how I constructed the list itself. The intro might not be necessary viewing, but it is relevant to the rest of the video.
All the best!
The 320 - the most boring aircraft ever as #1….😂
Turn on the system failures and see how boring it is. You would not get it to land.
@@fsx-legend4602 How do you know? I would. 320 ECAM is almost self explaining.
Haha. Well, “boring” is a pretty subjective assessment AO and even if the A320 was the most boring aircraft ever created (and I think most would agree that it’s not), that doesn’t really have any bearing on the quality of the addon. . . ; )
All the best!
Boooo built new system, downloaded game installed it. in game mandatory patch is stuck will not download. Gets to fs-base-cgl-0.1.75.fspackage.034 it will start downloading then start over ill see it get to like 3% then it will go to 0% and start over did this for 4 hours last night and still doing it today. How do i get this mandatory patch? New system i have over 7TB free.
Hi Stomper,
Have you managed to get your issue resolved yet? I often used to have similar problems with updates and for me it came down to a sub-par WiFi connection (the connection was fine for everything else, but not up to MSFS’ standards apparently haha). I found that if I used an Ethernet connection, that prevented these download loops from occurring. Worth investigating that perhaps.
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes, just took 2 days for it to patch, everything running good now. Last patch installed ok. And yes the WI-FI sucks on new motherboard. Ran hardline on day 1:) it still was not as fast as old system. (the wireless) Thx for the reply.
You’re most welcome on the reply! I’m glad you managed to get things sorted. Happy flying : )