3 'severely decomposed' bodies found in SoCal home; police investigating possible murder-suicide
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2024
- The bodies of three apparent adults were found Wednesday inside an Irvine home, prompting authorities to launch an investigation of a possible murder-suicide, police said. MORE: abc7.com/irvin...
One of the tenants at my small apartment complex died on the side of his bed and wasn't found until a month later. I complained to management that something was wrong weeks before . He would usually leave a bag or two of garbage out his front door and I would throw it away for him because he had some health issues and had a hard time walking to the dumpster. I felt something was wrong when a week passed and didn't see any garbage left outside his front door. I told management about it a few times That they should check on him to make sure he was okay, but no one listened until I smelled something and saw flies swarming the bedroom window and front door... Also noticed a little cobweb at the bottom of the corner of his door I knew then that no one had been in or out of that apartment so I knocked on the manager's door again. We called the local fire department to do a welfare check and sure enough he had been decomposing on his bed for about a month.He had no one - His name was Rick - 🙏🏻✨
You're very kind and I'm sure he appreciated you❤
How tragic... sorry for your loss. He may have not been family but it sounds like Rick had a special place in your heart. And you in his! It's nice to know there's still good people out there. Your genuine concern and acts of service to him meant more than you know. I just felt like I had to tell you that. Take care ❤️
Your a kind person
@@veronicamarie9793 ..Thank u ✨
Yeah this sadly happens a lot. I worked in a complex and found several. It’s awful and so sad
Imagine not seeing your neighbors car moving for 18 months and not thinking anything unusual?
Or lights on off etc. or mail man? Hello no one’s getting the mail lol. So weird.
Its upscale California those people have tunnel vision
My car has sat for over a year because I moved out of town I’m not close with my neighbors
Come to my neighborhood
Not hard to imagine at all. This is not small town USA.
There was a shy international kid in my high school who suffered severe asthma attack in his apartment and passed away. He lived by himself (parents live overseas) so no one was there to help him (apparently he tried to make it to his kitchen to grab his inhaler but was too late). He didn't show up to school for a week so the school & his parents called, no one answered. When they sent the police over they realized he's already been dead for several days. No one knew about his health condition because he didn't have friends. To this day, (a decade later) I still think about that kid and his family. Just sad that he left this world alone.
Everyone leaves this world alone!🤣 unless you die in a car crash, fire, mass shooting, etc with OTHER people. We ALL die ALONE!
😞
If it's any comfort he probably went unconscious quickly (proven by not making it to his inhaler). I doubt he even have time to think of anyone much less be panicked, sad or regretful he was away from his family. Try to replace those sad memories you have about him by replacing them with 'he's no longer suffering' or - if you're a believer 'he's in a better place now and will see his family again someday'.
We all leave here alone and with nothing :( even when surrounded by loved ones we all die alone 😭
International kid from what country. Jist international kid? That's his name right?
One of a person's greatest fears is being forgotten. These people died for a YEAR no one even noticed. This is horrible.
18 months according to the authorities.
@@kristinatidwell6563 that's still a year plus some change. You must be a delight in person. . .
@@kristinatidwell6563 18 months sounds less cooler though
Unfortunately, I’m happy that they wouldn’t know it :/ but who really knows.. it’s a sad situation 😞
@@NextWorldVR can’t call half a year change lol that’s a while ahh half a year bro
I live in a gate-guarded community. One out of eight homes is owned by people who live overseas and are rarely at the house. Many appear to be vacant. I can see how this could occur.
I believe you. Luxury homes are investments while people sleep in doorways.
Sometimes a huge percentage of homes in a neighborhood stand empty for that reason (parking money in foreign property instead of the bank). It's a really bad situation and should not be legal to buy up private homes, take them off the market to only let them stand empty for years, especially global corporate investment firms and wealthy foreign investors.
But these ppl lived there. What about their mail? Wouldn't that pile up?
@@jeffreyb8770 yea but those two things aren’t connected. The doorway sleepers are usually mentally I’ll or on drugs and the luxury homes being used as assets are usually world jet setters or people with too much money. Either way though one didn’t cause the others misfortune
weird to me!
This is why a nosey neighbour is essential to the community.
😂
to a certain extent, caring rather than nosey is better!
No, thank you. Keep your eyes and business on your own property, not mine.
Liberal media has already demonized them as karens
No thanks. I value my privacy.
It’s so sad that it took a year for someone to check on them. Absolutely horrible
It was 18 months
@@SerpentFire 18 months dead, the family hadn’t heard from them in a year though
@Howdy: So, after being dead for 6 months, a victim contacted family in Canada?
"Over a year" is used in a general, non-specific way. It was 18 months. It's odd to say family in Canada last heard from the victims a year (12 months) ago when they actually were dead for 18 months.
It's Irvine. Everyone minds their business
Maybe don't have immediate family...just cousins.
One of my neighbors in an apartment building died and wasn't found for several months. It's truly sad when that happens and nobody misses you for a long time. I can only assume that this family had auto pay for all bills and a mail slot in the door since unpaid utilities and mortgage/rent or piles of uncollected mail are the usual giveaways that something's happened to a person
Omg, that never occurred to me! That's definitely good to note
Exactly... and if that's not the case, when exactly was their last utility paid.
How sad though. Based off that humongous house, I'd say it's all money related.
It's a grim reminder of the passage of time. Keep in touch with your families.
In an apartment building? That thing would smell in 1 week no schwayyyyy
There is no individual mail delivery in that neighborhood. They share a common location with the others on the block. That box had to be stuffed full, hard to believe the USPS didn't notify someone.
This reminds me of the case where it took three years to discover a woman had been dead in her apartment for three years. Her disappearance didn't ring any bells because she didn't usually keep in contact with her loved ones on a regular basis. She died wrapping Christmas gifts and they couldn't determine her cause of death.
Yes, I remember that story happening in London, England. Her name was Joyce Vincent.
Perhaps it was an accident with scissors or she suffocated on some tape.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Uhh... what kind of gifts could you possibly wrap that you suffocate on tape?
@@BigBadJerryRogers 🙄
@@Savyvanna Council “house”. Some are government owned and don’t require payment, depending on circumstances.
I can't imagine waiting a year or more of not being able to contact a family member or friend to have a wellness check done.
@@BEmeraldJade It takes 5 minutes or less to make a simple phone call. “People get busy” is a HORRIBLE excuse. If you’re a person that’s too busy to make a phone call, that’s pretty trashy.
I think it’s more concerning that the neighbors didn’t get suspicious
Not everyone is close enough with extended family to be in contact that often. At least after a year they finally called the cops
@@jovaughnthompson354 and all 3 people didn't have a job? at least not a job that cared enough to do a welfare check..
I actually thought a year was relatively soon.
What a horrific situation! No one would miss any of these people for over a year? This has to be one of the saddest situations ever.. to think, no one cared about any of those people. 😢😥
It's why I'm afraid to live with cats
Epic answer ;)
@@cocopublicnews6766 good point, no way it was a double murder suicide, twas probably the cat that committed a triple homicide!
@@starsapphiresicko lmao can't trust the flerkens
They didn't care about themselves 🤷🏻♂️
Sadly my family and I experienced this with family members. Although my parents found them dead 3 days later ,it rocked our world and our community .
I’m so sorry you had to go through that :( may your family members Rest In Peace 🥺❤️
I’m thankful we found the bodies so fast since they either died in their sleep (my mom) or we knew it was gonna happen (my grandpa with Alzheimer’s) either way, seeing and caring for a dead body is terrifying. I hope you guys are doing well, my family is finally moving past my grandpas death, it happened during COVID so we were with the body for a couple hours, even after they showed up I had to help carry him out, the body pickup was too weak on his own.
The tackiness of the skin is unforgettable.
Recently, an elderly lady who lived alone was also found in her London flat after having died 2 1/2 years ago. Her mummified body was found resting on her living room arms chair. The neighbors complained to the local council (government) but no search was conducted. It's a sad ordeal for people without close families and friends to check up on them.
I saw that story some days, or even weeks ago. I was actually shocked!
Wow, beyond belief.
I wonder how a mail man or someone else wouldn’t notice. That’s crazy.
Thats how I will die. Its ok
@@lordoffaiyum9727
I am hoping not for me but highly likely might be….got 2 cats , don’t want them to have to eat my corpse….so I have a neighbour I know to check me out if he doesn’t see me for while. He has done so a few times…so far still alive.
Was the smell not strong enough for the neighbors to notice something was wrong?
Whole neighborhood stinks.
This is why we need every home to have access to a gun.
They DID have access to a gun.
Their neighbors have dead bodies as well
Exactly. That's why everyone in the house is dead, because they DID have a gun. I love the endless nonsense in comments stating 'this is why we need MORE guns in everyone's hands'.... there are WAY more guns than people in the US, and the US is by far the leader in frequency of mass shootings (at least one a day at this point?). I'm so fckng over the ignorant gun fetish agenda. Get a clue already.
@@whazzat8015 how do you know the whole neighborhood stinks?
It’s mind blowing to think that three people were not missed for over a year!! How horrific 😢
I don’t think it’s mine blowing to be honest society today is more and more recluse it’s not normal to just go to someone’s house anymore and knock on the door people lock themselves in their house shut all the blinds and don’t wanna be bothered by anyone so I don’t know if it surprises me at all something weird going on There with those people anytime something ends with murder suicide or whatever it may be then you know there’s some serious mental issues
Not necessarily , their phones may have been blown up by texts and calls and perhaps those people thought they ghosted so gave up 🤷
@William Xei What about utilities? What about the mortgage? What about the car not moving? It would be covered in dust in inch thick. The phones constantly going to voicemail immediately for an entire year there’s a lot more questions here
@@newportbeach8961 what about there jobs, school or friends, come on bro
@@serinaz1922 where I come from we try to mind our own business so maybe these people were minding their own business
Times have changed. We need more communication with neighbors even if it’s small talk. It’s a shame
Most communities with lots of elderly people keep an eye on each other, but younger people often don’t think about any need for it. If people are isolated from friends & family, don’t work & have bills auto-paid, it’s very easy to have an accident or worse & not be found for a long time. Although the smell tends to travel outside the house for a reasonable distance. Maybe not a huge house like this one, but most ordinary houses.
Us white folk are guilty of this. Unity is severely lacking
Well , my neighbor is a miserable witch . No small talk ever .
@@alicepopovski6303 I understand but even she is is still human and if ever in need I’d like to think you’d help her.
@@alicepopovski6303 Unfortunately we don’t all get great neighbours & some people are indeed just miserable human beings, but hopefully you still keep an eye on her anyway. I get that it’s hard to do for some people. If you notice a horrible smell emanating from the house & haven’t seen her for a while, definitely time to call police/ambulance
I do exterior remodels in Irvine and I can easily say that allot of the houses are paid in cash and go empty for years. That being said, I’m not surprised their absence went unnoticed.
Cash and empty? Sounds like money laundering?
Which state?
@@sgeorge4104 California
They have to be super expensive..who the heck has that kinda cash lol
What about HOA, mail piling up?
When minding your own business gone wrong...
My thoughts and prayers goes to the family.
How is that wrong?
@@LimeLivesMatter True. It's not people's job to hawkeye your life. People are already usually way too curious!
Where are the Karen’s when you need them?
Wasn't always that way unfortunately...
@@Goodwillwinoverevil1984 millennials...😑😑 if yall only knew..one day you might need someone to check on you. Will they be there not by what your thinking now.
How does this happen and not missed by family or co workers? Just so sad
Dahmer.....the chef
Its not hard. There was a point in my life when I was extremely depressed and shut out everyone. Both my parents are dead and my brother is on hard drugs and I lost my job. I often think that if I had passed, it wouldve been a bit of a while before someone found out.
Or neighbors.
@@BigPaPaRu I hope you’re doing well
They said 50s or 60s so possibly retired. Of course that's assuming the son did it. That's my guess.
Imagine being dead for over a year and nobody even noticing. That's heartbreaking.
What is the point of living in a gated community for fear of others when your neighbours 10 feet away don't even know you have gone missing?? That's a very clear indictment of the society we live in.
Agreed
Not like there are acres of land between those houses, just steps away too.
that's kind of the point??? to be left alone
Very well said and agree. I have old colleagues from over two years ago ring me often because they know I live alone. But sadly today not alot of people pay attention to what others are doing.
Neighbors actually minding their own business and the fact that their lawn was still being maintained. Since we don't have a culprit we 'HAVE' to be upset with someone lol
Now you can't tell me the mailman didn't notice something when the mail kept piling up in the mailbox. Everybody gets junk mail even if they have automatic payments.
richer upper class neighborhoods you can expect people not to be home for a while
They could’ve been on vacation 🤷🏻♂️
Mail will stop and remain at the post office. I’ve had this happen when I traveled and forgot to stop my mail.
The mailman didn't notice I forgot to put the address on my mail. Return address and stamp was on it. I got mail returned to me. They could have left it on my mailbox. My point, hardly anyone pay attention anymore.
Bills etc?
I feel bad for the officers who had to walk into that. That smell probably hit them like a truck.
Truly crazy that it took over a year
You think it would still smell after 18 months ?
Dude it’s the most interesting thing that’s happened to them in a while. Exciting day.
@@bigmike1850 weirdo
@@bigmike1850 weirdo
@@titofrost958 Yes. Bodies will rot into the floor and permeate surroundings. I cant imagine how gross the floor would be.
For all those wondering, the smell would not have been gone, just altered. The bodily fluids would have also caused molds as it seeped into the flooring.
Just light a candle and put a mat over it.
@@kellykel4472 might as well tear the whole house down or gut it completely. Nothing gets rid of corpse juice smell.
That's horrible.
@@kellykel4472 agreed
That’s gonna be a difficult hose to sell.
Karina Poirier and Serge G. are listed as the owners of the house. Karina was a psychology doctor who wrote several books on autism. She had a kidney issue and was looking for a donor. Her husband had cancer. Their son was autistic. She filed for a divorce in 2019.
Yep, screwed up people, as suspected. Family values, morals. Millions of people have cancer and millions divorce.
Wow...
So horrible
Oh my.
Oh I see now why. So sad. :(
I live in Irvine, let me chip in here. I'm not trying to justify anything but here are some things that might have come into play here. First, we have real strong HOA's here. All of the outside of your house and community grounds are taken care of by landscapers paid by your HOA fees, which can be set up on auto pay or you can pay a year in advance. All the homes get the same exterior attention thus you would never know if you were living next to a vacant home. The mail usually goes to one of those community multibox stations every block or so, thus mail wouldn't really pile up, i suspect the mailman would just take it back to the station. Lastly, this is California, I've been here in this house 8 years and am just now starting to wave to a few neighbors.
Addendum: For issues that are are urgent (fire, medical, even a power outage) will get us out to the street to discuss, but that's it. This whole "community" word? What does that mean? I don't need to know what my neighbors do and they don't need to know my profession. We are not going to all dance to "Fame" out in the street!
this clears a lot of it up actually , at least for me , i was super confused how nobody noticed but this makes a lot of sense !
I have been in the same place ten years and still dont know what some of my neighbors look like.
@ kendall Evans where you live doesn't sound much Iike a community just ppl living in houses and not interacting with one another...smh
@@denise3422 That's how we like it. Why SYH? Would you rather have your neighbors into your business? Or worse live in some inter-city tenement where everyone uses that trendy word "COMMUNITY"? This is the suburbs, if your place is on fire we'll help put it out other than that I don't want to really know you....I imagine you and your friends blast rap from all the windows and you dance in the COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER!....This isn't a "Fame" remake
@@kendallevans4079 Suburbia at its finest. It is a great way to live for us introverts.
I live and work in the area. The majority of the homes in these affluent neighborhoods stand barren* quite often because the owners are constantly traveling or own multiple homes and primarily live elsewhere. Also, I've found that the wealthy either hire people that pay their bills for them, pay everything a year in advance, or are on autopay. Landscapers might be the only people who come and go from the property, but like I said, it's not uncommon for nobody to be home for long periods of time in these neighborhoods. Super sad situation, and even sadder that it took the relatives over a year to reach out.
Edit: wanted to add that they may have used a PO box or another mailing address/mail service which is why mail wasn't visibly piled up.
*barren
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Guessing that they’re an international family which split time here and overseas. Probably didn’t socialize with any of the neighbors because of language and culture.
But did these people not have jobs? Or some kind of work, where someone one would have noticed their absence?
They were in their 50's-60's so possibly retired? 🤷♀️
So somebody hasn't paid their HOA fee for over a year and the HOA didn't do anything at all....?????
It’s easy to not hear from certain relatives for over a year, especially depending on their vocation. For them to have been dead for OVER a year though is frightening. You just never know what goes on behind the walls of someone’s house. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@ghoststardancer5030 They should make a movie about it. Or I bet you could write a great story. I appreciate that you talk about the things I often wonder about, in these cases.
The wife karina Poirier filed for divorce on 11/22/19. How did they still not be discovered with an active court case going on?! It’s all very weird to me.
But the neighbours?? The smell of 3 rotting bodies? No flies?
@CC. LL I know many who have completely cut their family off.
@@Kerrviii very true. I have a cousin that I grew up with, we were very close. She started dating a guy and they moved around so often (and sometimes I would call her, not get an answer) that I didn’t know where she was. Eventually she would call me back and I just reduced it to her being too busy to talk. Unfortunately, this is also true for my younger brother who now lives in GA. These kinds of stories make me nervous.
What about co workers or mortgage payments, utility bills? Something that might peak someone's curiosity about what happened to these people.
I'm sure the house was paid off and they had their bills linked to a checking account.
Automatic payments. I'm check to check. Even I do Automatic payments. They're also bill payment services.
Automatic payment for everything besides we just went through a pandemic where utility companies are not cutting ppl off who haven’t paid for 2 years! If you didn’t see them you just assumed they left or move due to the pandemic. A perfect time to disappear - sad.
I was thinking same and wouldn’t they have had mail piling up?
@@moiramccleary2413 yea but with a rover in the drive way in the same spot for a year?
It boggles my mind that three people didn't have a single person check on them in over a year.
Maybe they were anti social and definitely no Karens living there
Makes me question why someone WOULDN’T?
Karina Poirier and Serge G. are listed as the owners of the house. Karina was a psychology doctor who wrote several books on autism. She had a kidney issue and was looking for a donor. Her husband had cancer. Their son was autistic. She filed for a divorce in 2019.
@@oceanrocks that’s all very sad!
@@oceanrocks that's really sad, hope they didn't just give up on life and end their suffering, hope they trusted God as lord before they departed, seeing that they must have felt hopeless, living life helping others when they themselves needed it as well
It took family members a whole year to contact authorities… we had a whole pandemic where all ppl did was checking on relatives even the ones they don’t like. Too sad 🥺
Distant relatives??!! Why can't people understand that??🤷♂️🤷♂️ the ones you call every Christmas or Thanksgiving?!
I heard of another case when a man died in his apartment and was there for months. His bills were on auto pay and the only way they found out was because they noticed after months that no one had turned on the water in the apartment. The person also travelled frequently and didn't have close fam or friends nearby.
That’s sad 😞
@@kamikazekid94 it's so important to be close to atleast one person you can trust. One person to check in with. 😣 It is sad. The internet has a way to connect us but also a way to disconnect us with each other at the same time!
Joyce Vincent spent 3 years dead in her home...
Really that's so sad to me
I remember watching an episode of crime scene cleaners and they were called to clean up a “body” from an upstairs apartment- when they got there, they learned that no body had checked on this guy for like 2 years bc all his bills were on auto pay. And the only reason they did a welfare check was bc it had been so long that the body decomposed to sludge and it was leaking into the downstairs neighbor’s bathroom ceiling from his floor
I can understand that. I haven’t talked to some of my relatives in years. After my grandmother died we stopped gathering for the holidays & over time just lost touch with one another. Thoughts are with the family.
Yes or the family is just closer to the other side of their family for example I barely know my dad side of the family bc they are in different countries so we are closer to my moms side of the family and we always get in touch with each other on holidays
Well you need to keep in contact with at least one person that genuinely cares about you bc you don’t want to This ending
@@vegas9440 If you have a couple of greedy family members who always want to know what they are going to get when someone dies then this will not be an issue.
People never seem to consider abuse. It’s very common in abusive relationships to be cut off from the rest of your family, & often the abuser doesn’t have much of their own or has similarly cut off for other reasons. Whether it’s a forced disconnect or gradual because of the issues they cause, it’s very common. And this kind of killing is most common when victim tries to leave.
Same happened to my family. We got together at my grandparents religiously every Thanksgiving & Christmas. Once they got too old to host, the aunts and uncles did their best to carry it on...but once my grandpa passed away and grandma went to a nursing home now we never get together. Sad really.
Decomposed bodies smell absolutely horrendous, times three...and no neighbors noticed it, so much for "upscale " neighborhood.
Or a well-sealed house
Extremely well built house. Irvine is pristine. Very low crime.
I said the same thing😑
Well built house and sealed insulated windows can make it possible
Nothing was left to smell if it’s been a year.
Honestly, I can kind of understand this. My husband and I don’t talk to our family very often, it’s sad. It definitely wouldn’t take a year to discover if we died but a few weeks maybe. No one really checks up on us too regularly and our neighbors mind their own business. It terrifies me sometimes because we have small children. I wish we lived in community more with other people. It’s a lonely world out there.
If you can, try to make some friends (other parents maybe?) around the neighborhood. You never know when you'll need a helping hand.
What about work? Wouldn't they notice? I also don't have family in the country that I live in. My mum also lives alone in another country. So every morning we send eachother a message. Even if it's just an emoji. But it's something that we do and would be noticed if that suddenly stopped. I live alone with my 2 children so if something should happen to me, my older one (7years old) kinda knows what to do.
@@claddagh8nuts yea that’s my only consolation. My husband’s work would notice, hopefully they would notify police. My children are only 3, 2 and 3 months so I just hope nothing would happen to both my husband and I and leave them waiting for police to discover is. Ugh so terrifying!
If you have the time to dedicate to a dog, that is the best way to meet your neighbors. I met all of my neighbors walking my dog. Everyone wants to pet her and say "hi". Adopt a dog who is in need of a good home from the pound. I was the new person in the neighborhood and I literally introduced many of the neighbors to the other neighbors because I knew all of them. And some had lived in the neighborhood for years and did not know one another. Now we all look out for each another.
But if you have a regular job or attend church, people from those entities would wonder where you are.
Imagine being the neighbors and realizing that you've been living next to a house with 3 decomposing bodies in it that's been there for over a year... I would definitely be more aware of my surroundings after that. Very frightening and chilling.
IDK if I could still live there after finding that out it just has bad juju now.
no different than living next to a cemetery... weve probably all lived next to a dead body. throughout humanity billions of ppl have died. odds are theres a dead body under everyones house lol might be a mile down but im sure they are there
No different than living next to a cemetery.
@@janjan6661 I think it is different because you expect people to be dead in a cemetery. Not so much in the house next door. The smell must have been noticeable at some point.
No way they neighbors hadn't been smelling something funky for a long time. No one could just put two pieces of the puzzle together and realize the absolute putrid smell was rotting corpse's
Basically the same thing happened with with actress Yvette Vickers. She was discovered mummified in an upstairs bedroom after a year... She lived in her West LA neighborhood for years and no neighbors noticed she wasn't around. It was only when mail started to stack up that she was discovered.
Sad, and it's something I thought about with this family, did anyone suspect anything about mail delivery? Where is all the mail?
I remember reading about that poor woman passing away. Her pet was also found deceased, correct?
BS. they would of evicted her in 90 days. No Electric paid. In LA. would smelled like a septic tank.
@@johnsizemore1666 keep thinking this thru, we'll wait.
@@johnsizemore1666 Go watch Ask a Mortician,they made an entire video of her condition and what happened, maybe she'll give you more info in her video.
Didn't these people have jobs or friends close by that would have missed them? Didn't the neighbors wonder when they didn't see them come and go anymore? This just doesn't make much sense.
Some people keep to themselves.
Espe
@@WiLDCHiLD. especially in uptight neighborhoods
It was during the pandemic...not uncommon.
You didn't listen, they said family was up in Canada. They probably were from there and didn't know anyone in the neighborhood.
Neighbors didn’t notice nothing, was house payment, rent or utilities being paid. Oh Lord so sad 😭
I lived in an apartment once and an elderly man was found dead on the floor by the apartment manager. I was sick about it for a long time. He lived alone I can't imagine multiple people being found dead. Rip
He liked the solitude. Could have kept in touch with some friends or family. Or even the neighbors. But he didn't. Which has its advantages and disadvantages. Don't know how it is your fault. You get what you pay for.
It’s a rich neighborhood, probably over 50 percent of the community has more than one house. Not that strange.
They should stop buying houses and invest in a home.
I live in Irvine about 3 miles from this neighborhood. I also have a house/cabin in the mountains. We are there maybe once every 3 months for a couple days.
yup and its irvine. A LOT of foreign investors who never step foot in the house.
@@bigred0079 🤔 Make it make sense!
@@bigred0079 😁
Seems odd that there is no mention of how bills were paid, possibly automatic withdrawal, no mail piled up or not collected. This is something that may have been discovered sooner if not for COVID lockdowns over the past 2 years. Keep in touch with your family and friends, maybe all they need is a phone call to keep them from going over the edge.
It could be possible that they paid bills in advance. It seems they had the money. If they paid someone to keep up with the yard in advance, the yard still would be maintained, etc. I live in Florida and there are a lot of people in my neighborhood who are only there for the winter. They go back up north the rest of the year. I see how it could happen. Especially if they don’t have any close family members that talk to them.
GOOD THINKING RE COVID.
This has nothing to do with covid.. the rest a agree...
@@leticiaruelas5423 It would give reason for not discovering the bodies for so long, people weren't at work and everything was locked down during COVID. People were not going to peoples houses. I am not saying they had COVID only that had it not been for COVID neighbors may have noticed that they weren't out and about.
@@Usernamebbn strange how things change I’m just saying because most neighborhoods in the past everyone knows each other and now days it seems like it’s not anymore
Sounds like this happened shortly after the pandemic started. People were locked inside keeping distance. I wonder if the stress got to one of them.
She had filed for divorce, he had Cancer and was upset, the rest is history~
@@rahla53 no way… :(
@@rahla53 🧢 🧢
@@rahla53 I have to wonder who pulled the trigger?
So no one noticed that bills weren't getting paid, people weren't showing up for their jobs, mail was accumulating in mailbox, cars haven't moved in over a year, and where were their friends and family??!! That's so bizarre.
Also, I'm gonna bet it was the 30 yr old son (who lived at home with his parents.. which seems to be a prerequisite for these types of killings) who committed the murders. What an awful situation all around.
Also we're talking about during covet as well you know some people are still wearing the mask and still staying in I can't believe it but there are some people so who knows we don't know their minds or what was going on in their lives it's just one of the saddest things I've ever heard
What other prerequisites are there?..
LIKE THESE PEOPLE WERE LEFT LIKE TRASH ..MY GOD IN HEAVEN
From what I understand, the adult son was autistic, so not exactly the deadbeat stereotype you're going for. With both parents having terminal illnesses, I think it's safer to assume they made some kind of pact and one of them did the mercy killing before offing themself.
AGAIN you people do not understand what living in a gated community with a strong HOA is like. Cars that haven't been moved? They have to be garaged. Mail? I addressed that at least twice...pay attention! It is very easy to live under the grid here....As we speak I haven't seen my neighbors in maybe 5 days and who cares? It's not my business and I'm not nosy!
How does no one NOT miss you after a couple of days, weeks, months? These people must have not had any close personal relationships that would have caused anyone NOT to miss them. Very tragic and sad on so many levels.
Well there is probably a good story there
@@nzazzara3111 I have no doubt
You be surprised not everyone is loved like you think.I wonder how long id go before some one in my family would even think of looking for me smh.
I'm just wondering about any unpaid bills piling up and no one in the insurance/mortgage/electric companies noticing all the missed payment deadlines and being suspicious.
Very easy I myself am alone in this world with no immediate family.
No one calls or checks up. 🤷♂️
I've always been the person to initiate contact. But if I don't do that no one else bothers.
(It's something where most people won't understand until it happens to them)
That’s shows that HOA does not do anything for your neighborhood.
There was an elder woman in her 80's that lived on the block over. I passed her house when shopping and we waved, never spoke, just waved. A few years ago we had a heatwave. I noticed that for days her windows stayed shut, curtains and security drawn. Which in my time here was extremely unusual. My husband thought I was a bit off, but I went to the police station and asked them to check on her well being, especially given her age, and the fact that she lived alone. They did, and she was well. I couldn't have slept peacefully had I not.
I concur, just like the police they don’t care
Do we really need any more proof that we live in end times and love has grown cold? How could nobody check on them for a year? Love has truly grown cold in all of us...
I'm sorry, this is so horrible. I keep close tabs on most of my family and close friends. I'm a handyman and I even had a close customer seek me out once, she reached out and when i didn't respond to her call ( which I immediately do) because she didn't hear from me she continued to call. I lost my phone prior to leaving for vacation and she tried to connect with me and continued to contact me, once I recieved my replacement I immediately called her to explain and I thanked her. Had something really been wrong she would have started to contact the police. She followed her instinct and that is what we need to do. It's not being nosey it's about going with that gut feeling when things just don't feel right. My condolences to the family and friend's of the deceased. This family was gone and forgotten. 🙏
Thank you for saying this. I lost a friend of mine over a year ago. I hadn't heard from her for about 3 weeks and she lived by herself. I was the one who found her dead body when I did a welfare check. Very sad situation. Like you said, "make sure you check up on people when you first suspect something isnt right". It's better to be safe than sorry.
@@trailhopper883 Definitely, I'm sorry for your lost. I'm certain it wasn't easy for you. I literally just went thru a situation with a childhood friend of mine, Pops ( called him that since we were kids) and his close friend Jr. The day before they were together Jr had a beer, went home to sleep and a day later never woke up, his daughter after returning from a weekend trip got Pops, Pops had to remove an ac unit to climb into the apartment because the front door was locked and had an additional pad lock. My buddy had a difficult time at the wake, considering he was the person to find him, he advise his daughter not to enter the bedroom and view him that way.. it wasn't going leave a good last memory. I think this happens more then we'd like to imagine. Unfortunately.....
The Bible says in the New Testament which is what we go by as Christian believers we are to love the Lord God with all of our heart all of our mind and all of our soul and then the second commandment is love thy neighbor as thyself so I can even believe nobody checked on these people I can't believe nobody smelled the rancid smell of decaying bodies I mean some things not right in this picture and someone else mentioned mortgage payments they should have been an eviction notice I would think even just a neighbor would notice your card never moved but maybe they live there and we're staying in and you're right covid has done a lot of crazy things to people or cause them to do crazy things it's very sad I can't imagine being that sad in life that you would kill your family and yourself over covid I mean if that's the situation certainly could be
@@ljaysperspective1775 did you just say pops died, but then say jr died? The. Say pops is the one that found him?… confusingly worded
While it worked out in your case, sadly to a lot of people these days many people would see this as being a bit clingy and annoying. I am glad it showed that you cared about your client.
I've heard of this sort of thing happening when there's one person who lived alone, but three?
How sad. No friends or relatives to contact them for that long?
Sad but true….
Trust, it happens.
what about the electric bills, credit card bills, gas bills, homeowner's garden bills? no one contacted them or visited them? office workers or close friends?
Auto pay.
Wow… this is so sad that no one noticed anything and it too 18 months to make the discovery… No coworkers, friends, neighbors,? Was their mail piling up? Neighbors at each side didn’t smell anything? It’s hard to believe that we live in a society that no one cares for anybody anymore… so sad…
I AGREE WITH U 100 PER CENT
Covid-19
@@SiTengoHambre Covid- 19 has nothing to do with it why bring that up again about Covid.
Everyone keeps talking mail and Im like "How does an American built house keep the smell of 3 dead people inside the home"
Wouldn't the mail be piling up? Wouldn't the neighbors see that no one is entering or exiting the house? Something is seriously wrong here😷 They need to do a thorough investigation as this seems to be a crime scene to me. This officer apparently calling this a murder suicide which is wrong. The bullets in the corpses have to be linked to the gun and that has to be proven.
Yeah, the mail thing does seem weird to me for sure. As for neighbors, I can totally understand them not noticing, especially if their cars were in the garage.
Maybe they had a mail slot and no one noticed because it was piling up inside the home. Just a thought.
@@ginadelsasso288 Right? But everybody wanna be a detective and conjure up theories.
I live in a regular suburb, and my neighborhood is silent year-round and I maybe see like 3 dog walkers per week. I could see how nobody in a gated community with even less people would notice something off.
Rich ppl who aren't friends don't care who comes and goes, these days who get physical mail I get everything digital.
What about bills, mortgage, heat electricity pool? Like this is weird something isn’t adding up.
Who was paying the mortgage and utilities?? A dark, uninhabited house where the cars are never used seems like a good idea to investigate.
Maybe not dark. Lights on inside 24hours.
Automatic bill payment - if they have a source of income that doesn't require anyone to go into work (or just a lot of money in the bank). Smart lights scheduled to go off and on. Cars parked in a garage. Or maybe everyone just thought they moved.
@@someguy9778 She doesn’t mean dark in that sense
They were all murdered most likely by more than one person
A lot of people in OC pay for their homes cash. Very upscale area.
Unfortunately I don't find it surprising. There are some people in my neighborhood that never interact with anyone. They are invited to events, they are waved at, spoken to but it is never returned. They just never interact with anyone in the neighborhood. We don't know anything about them. It's not because we're unfriendly. They don't want to make friendships or even just be neighborly. It's sad.
Not everyone is a social butterfly and that’s ok.
Nobody had a job or had bills to pay? Neighbors didn’t notice no movement for over a year.
I always try to keep an extra eye and ear out for my neighbors and even when I'm out and driving around. You just never know, you might save someone one day. I'm not nosey, but I like to think I could help should I ever see something. We should always keep an eye out for things that seem off
definitely sound nosey lol
I bet they will sell that house and will not disclose this information to the new owners
In some states, they don't have to.
It is already for sale. Realtor said that the previous owners moved to Texas.
California is one state.
The new SUCKERS. (I will never, ever buy in an HOA.)
Automatic payments, class/ cultural based social isolation, a history of being loners...RIP this is awful. People let's go back to being a little more involved in the lives of our neighbors, this is ridiculous...
Pandemic.
@@someguy9778 we've been on the downward spiral for a few months now. My initial thoughts were that but why was no one aware cars have not left, groceries were not delivered, not even a person in the backyard like I often did during the worst of the issue. This is a strong case of us not caring for one another. 1.5 years is a long time to not see someone and not ask questions.
It is a cultural thing unfornately,as think I saw the dad with his autistic son 1 year ago playing soccer at a park in foothills ranch.the son in his 30s. This has become common in orange county in these multimillion dollar homes in the gated communities.
Shut up
@@ZuzuBell Hey, you are right- pandemic or not, neighbors are not neighbors anymore. Everyone stays to themselves now. It's seems like a ghost town in the nice NH I live in. No one borrows a cup of sugar anymore.
So sad when no one misses three people for a whole year and a half. But what about their mail? Didn't it not stop fitting in the box? Seems when bills stop being paid someone would come around.
Or House Payment, Insurance ECT. Your right how does this happen ?
@@marciayoung1094 I put everything on auto-pay. I have no utilities to pay. No one comes to my house. My siblings have not contacted me for years.
No one can monitor activity at my house because of a long driveway. I could be dead here for months, no one would know.
This is how it happens.
@@danstrayer111 why don't you talk to your siblings
@@harryazcrac975 They are abusive, racist Trump supporters. They have at this point ceased to exist.
Except these are McMansions that are real close to each other. Look at the laughable yard sizes.
On a remote property I would fully understand that someone could be dead without anyone noticing for months or even decades. But not in a development where the houses are almost touching each other.
Wait, Im confused, who paid the rent for 18 months?
They probably owned the house no rent to be paid
@@winterblommetjie you have to pay property tax and so on
@@TALYJIMMY exactly, it's not like they lived in the middle of nowhere.
Places like that are usually mortgaged or paid in full. Taxes are due once a year if you do not let the mortgage company pay them. Automatic payments from a cushy savings could keep things flowing for a very long time.
@@shae1005 I understand that, I mean, did not one of the three people have a place of employment? How did they have steady income to cover all their bills.
Wow, what an awful situation. Why would you wait that long to check on them if you're the family member? The full-story on this should be interesting to say the least.
I have a feeling that they weren't really in close contact. Like in my situation, most of my family is in Europe while I am in the USA and we really don't check up on each other, around only once a year. So, I can totally see this happening.
I wonder who will inherit? Won't take 18 months to make a claim.
If family was in Canada and they were in USA, they might not have known who to contact or how to go about it. From the video, it says the family contacted Canadian Police and Canadian police contacted the California police. It’s possible the dead family had more than one home ( Canada and USA) so they moved back and forth like snowbirds. ( ie winter in one place and summer in another). Just speculation as to why their might have been a delay.
I'll never forget the time I had to renovate a house where a older man passed away and wasn't found for about a year. Never again.
I got sent to a house to paint the inside and as soon as I opened the door I could smell death .a guy had blown his head off with a shotgun I found out later ,yea I bailed on that job .
someone died in their car just outside of the downtown area where i live .. he wasn't found for a while apparently.. long enough where they had to close off the entire street and people in hazmat suits had to sanatize the entire area AROUND the car (i.e the skatepark where he was parked) -- “decontamination cleaning" -- . "Due to the decomposition of the body a biohazard was present after removing the subject from the van. The park is closed in order to clean and properly mitigate the hazard. " ...
given that was the city's protocol... sounds like you guys should not have been in the homes your work sent you to 😬🤢
Imagine having so much money that no one checks on you until your cousin that he never see doesn’t show up to the family reunion.
Life goals
They are Chinese you silly liberal. They made a killing in the Shanghai wet markets and then moved to America. Their relatives are from Canada and their adult son still lives with them. You finished all the shark fin soup. You very very bad boy. You take that back, pop, pop!
If it’s the people that lived in the home, who paid the mortgage, the taxes, the utilities. Why didn’t their coworkers noticed them missing? Friends, family??
maybe they quit as this was prob planned...bills all on auto withdrawal. Looks like they didnt have contact with anyone regularly so no one got suspicious early on.
I find that weird how neighbors didn’t suspect something. I’m very well aware of my neighbors when they are around. Even if they are on vacation I usually am aware there’s been no activity for few days. Strange. Sad situation
What about their work? Utility payments? Banks? So many things that would lead to at least some curiosity.
Yeah maybe a few of my neighbors but my neighbors directly next to me have been EXTREMELY quiet for the past 20 years they've lived there (I've lived here my whole life). They never open the windows even on a nice day. You never see lights. You need see blinds opened. I've never even heard a hammer before. It's the craziest thing. I've had to knock on their door a few times and rhey won't open the front they'll peek out the top window and ask what we need. They never come out in the summer. Never had a cookout. Nothing. Very very strange.
@@rachelgreen4510 they don't care. They'll just turn everything off and move on.
@@brooker4149 Oh wow really. That’s weird.
@@brooker4149 That is very odd. I hope you don’t live next door to more Turpin types, or a psychopathic couple who are holding women hostage in their basement 😳 Of course, one of them might just suffer from agoraphobia perhaps or are hoarders who don’t want anyone to see inside their house, or maybe they grow or cook drugs? Or maybe they’re just plain weird. If I were you I’d document anything odd that I noticed & consider mentioning it to the cops just in case. You could do an anonymous tip 🤷♀️ If they just happen to be super quiet private people, no harm done except a bit of annoyance to them. But if they’re not, you could maybe save someone.
Very few people talk to neighbors anymore - Neighborhoods are not really neighborhoods anymore, they are private cemeteries for the living. All the security and doorbell cameras and everyone is scared of everybody, this does not surprise me SMH
i know, when i was a kid not too long ago, i was out on the streets playing with my friends making noise, and we weren't the only ones, the whole block just felt alive because people would always be out doing something or just talking with friends. Now where i live, i never really see kids playing outside, it's rare nowadays
@@miguelurena374 So True! Your experience Mirrors mine. What his happened? As a child I spent a lot more time outside than inside. Everyday except for rainy days.
How can you not smell this. How does the body not decompose through the floor
Right and 3 bodies at that
@@tarianajones2225 pretty messed up, I can tell when someone smokes or hits the bong. Couldn’t imagine the smell of decomposition that’s messed up.
A home like that likely has a lot of hardwood and tile plus the human body is 70%+ water anyway and even a plywood sub flooring exposed to the elements outside during framing is resilient long term. I’m not a chemist, scientist or biologist but I do know what a woman is
@@tarianajones2225 Nobody could smell the decomposing bodies thanks to the COVID-19 and everyone wearing their face mask 😷😬
@@jessebaca2750 actully you should be able too if your not a smoker, on drugs because you won’t know what’s going on really same like alcohol…. You’d think maybe sewers at the most …. I don’t get how clueless people are to noticed these type of areas these people always have lawn care taken care of, clean cars… always doing garage sells or. Just going through neighborhood walk… kind of weird nobody saw any of these sings…. Neglect of garden… neglect of car washes… etc….
I’m truly confused as to how their absences went unnoticed for so long. Especially because they lived in a gated community How were their HOA fees being paid, their property taxes, etc… I have so many questions. This is truly bizarre 😳
I have all my Bill's on autopay. I have quite a bit of money that would easily cover my Bill's for a year. I guess if my car didn't move my neighbors might think it a bit odd but probably would assume I'm car pooling. My once a year hoa payment covers lawncare. In fact if I dies suddenly and didn't have my parents near by like I do. I wouldnt be surprised if my bodies not found for at least 6 months.
And the property taxes might well have been in arrears. Most of the time when that happens, it doesn't mean the owners are dead, and it takes a long time for anything drastic like a property sale to be done.
I can’t imagine the amount of mail that those poor officers were greeted with.
Yeah and fliers asking for donations for recycling electronics.
And car warranty
Or there cars getting repo’d , imagine if the had pets
@@jenniferviveros7521 pet would have been mentioned. The car would not have been on payments....someone that buys a home like that doesn't normally have car loans. In the comments it says it is typical for them to have multiple homes and a neighbor assumed they were at a different house.
If I died no one would know either, it's a sad reality I've come to accept. I'll probably only be found because of being late on rent smh.
@Senna_Grillo 12
Yep that's just life or should I say death
Not that you’ll care anyway, because you’ll be dead.
@@VinnyLam
Yep that's probably why I don't care, not like I would know anyways
Melee Toooo
Wow, this is scary because for SURE I'd go 2 years before being found.
Oh heck yes me too
Same
Aww Larry that's sad...get out and make friends..talk to your neighbors
Me too no one would look for me.
me too
Who was paying the bills? No smell with three decomposing bodies? Neighbors didn’t hear the gun shots* or smell anything?!
Utility bills were always the same or was the electric bill way lower? Also the pool man or gardener never had to fix or mower the grass? None of the neighbors had a clue? And like someone said the mail must of just stacked up were it had to be a concern.
They have some solar panels so not sure about the utility bill changing. If anything they might have financed the solar which I’d assume they would’ve not paid in quite some time but some people pay cash for the system. The pool guy probably did the last month worth of cleaning and when the customer doesn’t pay it just cancels. The front yard was maintained by the neighborhood it sounds like so it didn’t really look suspicious.
Like he said HOA maintained the front yard and the backyard is all concrete so.
Pool looks murky
Everything was on autopilot
The stockpile of mail would be a dead give away if you ask me.
This is quite sad. It’s disheartening that it took this long before someone thought to check on them. Where are the immediate family members, close friends, siblings, cousins etc….
Do the neighbors ever visit or speak from their yard? Do they own their own businesses?
When they didn’t show up for work regularly did that not raise a red flag?
I guess not seeing your neighbors regularly doesn’t raise concern.
So many failed them. May their souls Rest In Peace.
Prayers and condolences to those who love, miss and cared about them.😔🕊🙏🏾
Jesus boom. . . . . . Hello , dont neighbors check on one another, still.... HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ?.,....' IM IN LONG BEACH, I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS
I’m in total awe. How is this possible seriously
The world we live in. 😪
This is definitely odd. So many key things you stated. All 3 are at working age. Possible that maybe they were not working since the start of pandemic because most jobs if not all have you put down emergency contact if they can't reach you. But no friends or family of either individual thought to do a welfare check in 18 months??
Their family apparently is in Canada and, the majority of Californians mind their own business, particularly in HOA's.
I just don't understand?
My sister and I are grown adults who live alone in two different states and we make sure to text each other once a week even if it's just a quick hay, hi, or hello.
I'm very sad for their family.
Um... so no one was tipped off by the mass accumulation of mail and/or newspapers, and non-payment of bills?
Remember a time when neighbors knew each other and talked over the fence often. How could the neighbors not notice something wrong and do a wellness check on thier neighbors.
Remember a time when California was an American state? Now it's the United Nations. Balkanization edition...
My grandparents are great friends with their neighbors, that’s a rarity these days.
Home Improvement lol.
Wilson was annoying.
I do....But we're a special breed these days.....
Something like this happened in my old neighborhood where a 17-year-old murdered both his parents their bodies were inside for nearly a month before people found out what happened
1 month vs 1 & 1/2 yrs is apples & oranges.
obviously there's no Mrs Kravitz in the neighborhood, otherwise the cops would have been notified the day of the crime
90% of Americans or people living in this country don't know who mrs. Kravitz even is.
@@robertaltman3801 But some of us do, lol.... That post made me smile... 🙂
Lol, where is she when we need her
That's absurd. Didn't anyone smell decaying bodies???
Reminds me of a documentary, dreams of a life. It was about a girl in England who died watching the tv and wasn't found for 3 years with the tv still on. Strange story
Did they mention the brand of TV? Sounds like a winner. lol
@@Qingeaton tv's back then were made to last pal 😉
@@Qingeaton 🤣🤣🤣
So, who was paying the electric & T.V. Bill for 3 yrs?
@@thehelpfulgoddess it was an auto payment direct debit came out of her account
Something doesn’t sound right, the information given is real questionable.
Exactly!
yeah this is making no sense
Covid: the most recent fuel detaching humans from each other. Their family not saying anything for a year is no shock either.
I'm confused. If rent/bills aren't being paid. Somebody isn't showing up to work. How is nobody going to the home or trying to contact the victims?
A whole year..... you'd think the mailman would've smelled it.
Yeah, good point! Didn't anyone see the mail piled up!
Or the mortgage company the bank
@@sandib4234 mail was forwarded probably
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 House was paid off
Obviously that did not happen as mail could have been forwarded to another address
How can this happen ?? Do neighbors not talk to each other anymore or get acquainted with each other. What about there neighbors, gardener and pool guy. It is a shame that no one knew they were missing for such a long time. This is just a very sad situation.
Yes neighbors don’t talk anymore in certain areas.
Nope
I know every one of my neighbors all around the entire block on my block and up and down my side block. Very close community. We have bbqs together where all the neighbors come and hang out from around the neighborhood.
And we all watch out for one another. Not even joking. Not even just a little
This wouldn’t happen within a block of my house in either direction north east west or south
A lot of non observant ppl in that neighborhood. I would've noticed the car in the same spot, nobody coming and going, mail piling up. Too many ppl in their own world and not paying attention to their surroundings.
The car would of been the most obvious. Dusty with spider webs.
rich people most likely dont care about their fellow neighbor
Wouldn't the cars have been in the garage?
@@tracyd1233 lol..
ASAINS THATS THEYNLIVE THERE AND THEY SHY SCARED TIMID LITTLE PEOPLE MIND THEIR BUSINESS
Your telling me the neighbors didn’t notice a single movement coming from the house.. they have a car parked in the driveway.. it didn’t move for an entire year.
Its such a sad realization that if something happened to me, i know my 'family' wouldnt even notice...
Yup.
Way to make this about yourself.
We haven’t heard from my sister in over 4 years. I always wondered what happened to her. She just disappeared. That poor family. Its absolutely tragic. 😢😢😢
I can’t even imagine the pain u suffer🥺I pray she is found🥺
@@stacyeandrew2 thank you. 🙏🙏🙏
@@randycraft3166 outta pocket
🙏🏽
Are you doing anything to locate her?
so were bills paying themselves or something?
My guess is they weren't born in Canada or the U.S. and they kept to themselves. Otherwise neighbors would have paid more attention to their absences.
Don't forget Covid also made many people stay indoors
They may have been travelers and people didn't pay attention.. come and go and with covid people may have just assumed they were gone tending to other things.
I could only imagine what happened to adults and kids during the pandemic that went missing or abused. 😔
What a world we live in, when your neighbors who live next to you, doesn't know if your alive, or dead. I miss the good old days, when rubber necking kept everyone safe.
ha lol
I think the thing that confuses me as to how this went unnoticed for so long is there would have to be a very strong smell of decomposition coming from that house. In many many cases of unattended deaths that go unnoticed for longer periods of time it’s common for neighbors to notice the smell and then call it in. The fact that the community has houses that close together and no one noticed even a strange smell is odd. Either no one thought anything of the smell or that house is practically vacuum sealed.
Like I personally try not to be nosey with my neighbors but if I ever smell that rotten awful smell I try to pin down where’s it’s coming from. If I just can’t seem to find it I try to ask my neighbors. Just knowing what that smell is actually like makes it hard for me to believe people just straight up ignored it.
I grew up in Irvine, this is so odd that no neighbors thought, “ hmm we have not seen anyone coming or going for a year and a half”. I understand covid, but I too live in a gated community where my front yard is maintained by my association, my neighbors would definitely be concerned after a week or two, (and I work from home)and vice versa. This is very strange .
Some of the neighbors near that house were new there and the family died before they even came.There were only a few houses (that were near) that should have known about them. But I kind of feel bad for the neighbors because some the comments are being really unkind to them and blaming it all on them.
Very strange for sure
A lot of people have kinda become reclusive since Covid hit. It could also be that people have weird schedules and may not cross paths or see the other neighbors because of timing.
I believe this was a new community (only 4 years old) and with Covid and everything, I believe one of the neighbors said they thought the family went back to Canada.