As a regular and responsible cyclist plus bike commuter, it makes my blood boil when fellow cyclists behave this way. It turns some motorists against us and increases the risk to us. I'm also sick of people making it a political issue.
Yeah don't worry about it. It's people that are a problem, the mode of transport is irrelevant. I ride bikes...a lot...I'm a person not a cyclist. This video and others of it's type are pointless. The same people would be idiots in cars too. Don't define yourself and others by the mode of transport
I used to think like you when I first started commuting via bike, two years in I can safely say I really couldn’t give a f what a motorists thinks of me or my wreckless cycling, I’ll do what safest/best for me Only in this country does it seem to be free reign on anyone with a bike, see it everyday in the city I live
I got ranted and sworn at by a black cab driver while on my bike in Bloomsbury the other day. The guy was nasty, and there was no provocation from me other than an arm raised in exasperation, and I don't intend to make any excuses for him; he shouldn't be a cabbie with an attitude like that. But all that pent-up anger and resentment against people on bikes came from somewhere, and it wasn't from how I was riding. So many Central London cyclists take the piss.
Distracted drivers and cyclists are a hazard. If you drive or cycle, assume that everyone else is drunk texting while facing backwards during a violent spousal argument on their earbuds.
The cyclist who hit the car while trying to balance his coffee, also made no check on if he'd damaged the car and simply cycled away. Where's the responsibility?
@@dtz1000 I am glad that I am not most people then as I hit a car on my bike and went to find the owner of the vehicle to give them my details and offered to pay for any damage caused so some of us cyclists do give a 'shit' (@emmetb1965) and take ''responsibility' (@EvilGav)!!
I will admit that cyclists need to start following the rules of the road, and I do agree with you that being on your phone whilst cycling should be illegal. But that doesn't negate the need for proper cycling infrastructure so that *EVERYONE* who is riding (not just kids) can do so safely, both in the UK and in the USA.
3:30 ok, they should have taken primary, but that's not illegal. There was nothing wrong with this cyclist just pootling along the road. They are no risk to anyone! If you can't cope with being patient for a few seconds, you should not have a driving licence.
The cyclist was just cycling, the driver needed to hold back as no safe overtake is possible, which they actually did. This was (in the chosen words of Mr Neal) a non-event. Yet somehow the cyclist is criticised. Getting the phone out was not a brilliant move, but even so the driver needs to drive carefully around them and they do that. This was not a cycling fail.
@@sedumjp exactly. it's a bit rich complaining about a cyclist briefly checking their phone, when you drive around looking into a camera. None are illegal, but you could just as well say “make vlogging whilst driving illegal” as “make phone use on bikes illegal”!
Something doesn't have to be illegal for it to be a fail. The fails in this clip were both the total lack of awareness (the fact the car was following for quite some time without the cyclist even knowing) and the phone use. Sure, neither are illegal, but if a cyclist was to hit a pedestrian and seriously injure/kill them whilst demonstrating such a lack of awareness through phone use or not, you can bet they'd be prosecuted. Ultimately Ashley's videos are more about raising awareness of best or bad practices for the purpose of education.
@@dgard1981 for goodness sake, no pedestrians were put at risk and the phone use was extremely brief - same as a shoulder check. The car following was an electric vehicle so probably not easy to hear, but in any case, if the driver is driving appropriately why does the cyclist need to be aware of them??!
@@squicker daydreaming for 3 mins? you made me go back and check, the whole thing was only 40 seconds and I don't think they were daydreaming. Even when they slow down at the zebra crossing, it's mainly because there's an oncoming car and they need to wait for it to pass before turning right. Riding slowly and wobbling a bit is still better than stopping and having to put a foot down. These hire bikes are heavy and slow to ride, not everyone is bombing around on a borderline legal e-bike like Ashley! I am also hyper aware on my bicycle (I've put some clips up to demonstrate how I manage motorists), but you shouldn't have to ride like a ninja to be safe on the roads.
it is a real shame that a lot of these are rental bikes. I wonder how much inexperience and infrequency of cycle usage plays into these incidents. I cycle daily, and often the worst cycling I see is from people on bikeshare bikes, and a lot if it is they simply just aren't that experienced.
I reckon a total disregard for other people and lack of personal responsibility are probably bigger factors. There are many road riding enthusiasts who have plenty of experience on the road and act just as selfishly. Very few of the incidents in these clips are down to lack of bike control but yeah, on the whole inexperienced riders will probably be worse.
I think that's a factor, and also price being based on time. I'd like to see rentals charged by distance as a ploy to have more rental bike users stop at red lights rather than rushing to save their pennies. In London it can feel like a lot of road users are on timers these days...
You're right, the different types of cyclists behave very differently. The one that spilt his coffee while riding clearly isn't a cyclist, he was just popped on a rental to get his coffee thinking he was French or something. Also so many of these are delivery drivers, and no matter what vehicle they use, many are crazily under pressure to deliver on time and take huge risks. Many are also just local youths on a bike. I too was once young, and going around on a bike like you own the place is fun at that age, but they're not "cyclists" by nature. Hardly any clips Ash does of these are commuter or leisure cyclists like I am. The majority of us know our bodies, our bikes and our safety, because we have to.
That last comment about how seeing lots of adults being submitted to Cycling Fail somehow negates the need to build proper cycling infrastructure has really confused me. I have no clue how adults breaking traffic laws on shared roads has anything to do with building better separated cycle-only roads/lanes to reduce the amount cyclists and drivers need to interact. I feel like maybe you don’t realise that infrastructure creates demand just as much as demand creates infrastructure, but maybe I’ve misinterpreted.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling In your opinion. And if you went back a few decades, you'd find that opinion prevalent in the cycling community as well. But over the course of those decades, the vehicular cycling approach has failed to produce the desired results, and general opinion has now shifted to wanting to emulate the undeniable success of places like the Netherlands. Vehicular cycling may still be a useful survival technique, but it has failed as a public policy.
I took a police inspector out this morning. Cycle route. All the infrastructure. The first 10 cyclists jumped the reds, to cross the A2. So your idea, if only, ... is wrong
@wasspj most are not worth it , just a path with a white line on it . They don't coverd with glass or dog walkers with long leads, and the fact anything over 12 mph you should be on the road
Here in the Netherlands, use of a mobile phone while cycling is illegal. However it is hardly enforced and so many cyclists ignore the law. We have another plague now and that is the trend of the fat bikes which are capable of huge (electric assisted) speeds ridden often by young children.
@@Tailspin80 Watch when you are out and about. How many deliveroo riders do you see playing the game. Hit the button to get the job. Whilst going down the road.
@@Tailspin80 It is a localised problem. The root cause is the criminal thinking of those involved. The solution is the police and confiscation and fines. On Friday I took a police inspector out for a two hour visit to the area. What was interesting that at one point he was very worried about his own personal safety because of cyclists and e-bikes. He was in uniform too. What hope is there for the peasants then?
4:40 so why do you think you don't see kids? Kids don't ride their bike without infrastructure. (Or they'll ride on the pavement) The few adults who do are mostly those who are willing to take insane risks, the rest simply won't cycle either. A big problem is that following the rules is often *also* mortally dangerous without suitable infrastructure.
The third clip I know of someone that got killed when they cycled off the pavement. I heard when he looked back he had veered into the road . Where he would have been safer on the road . If i see anyone cycling on the pavement I always allow a margin of saftey to allow the cyclist to come off the pavement. It's something I have always done long before we need rules telling us to look after the vulnerable
I can't find the statistics right now, but from memory, I'm pretty sure one of the biggest contributory factors in the KSI number for cyclists is a failure to look, and one of the most dangerous maneuvers is cyclist entering the road.
What's the point in making phone use illegal on bicycles if there are no police around to catch law breakers? Making phone use illegal when driving seems to have had no effect whatsoever on the amount of drivers doing it. I regularly see no end of drivers tapping away, staring at their crotch or holding the phone in one hand chatting away. Why? Because there are no police around to catch them. It's pointless taking the time, effort and cost to make phone use while cycling illegal if prosecution is rare.
Agreed. I'd support the use of tech in new vehicles that disables phones while the ignition is on. Passengers could maybe rediscover the joy of gazing out the window or, shock horror, having an actual conversation with someone.
2:10 While phone use while cycling is not a crime in itself, "If a person rides a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence." [RTA 1988, section 29] and covers 99% of phone use while cycling. It just needs to be enforced more.
3:30 really not an issue Ashley, not sure what you're saying here. The phone check shouldn't have happened but it's not the cyclist's responsibility to stop and let the car through. He had full entitlement to the road and used it. There is an assumption that because of the speed that he is unaware of car behind, but I wouldn't be so certain - if that was me I'd certainly be able to hear the car behind, and if I was certain there was no safe overtake, I would continue as he does
Last week I seen a cyclist getting pulled after going through a set of lights right in front of the police. I thought good on you . I don't even go through road works in the middle of nowhere. Never mind in the city
@DemiGod.. they come down the right filtering, no issues there. The police were in a left lane to go left and bus was in lane to go straight so would be obscured from view . They rightly got pulled . The thing is they would lose more time speaking to the police than they saved so it really wasn't worth jumping the lights.
While I agree that cycling while distracted is not acceptable, VASTLY more people are killed or injured each year by drivers using their phones or otherwise impaired than are by bikes.
If the money spent on separating cyclists was spent on cycling proficiency training in schools and proper ongoing education for motorists about road sharing, things might actually improve.
things would also improve for cyclists if certian routes were car free. CPT does not protect you from bad motorists, if you could educate impatience of of motorists there'd be no need for speed traps.
Swansea sea front has a long wide lane split pedestrian cycle route. Its rare to see pedestrains walking in the cycle lane due to speeds being 10 to 20mph, there's also no need to walk in it. Increased risk to pedestrians is purly down to inadequate infrastructure, much like a stretch of road with no pavement, and we all expect pedestrians to know that walking the middle of a country lane at blind bends is no recommended as it increases risk.
@@mikewade777 You're right there. I've found that in Scotland where there is no pavement that motorists generally go round you with no drama whilst you are correctly walking on the right, and crossing over to be seen at bends. In the South of England there seems to be the mentality with motorists that you must have a car to get around and anybody walking will endure deliberate close passes, deafening horn tones and other forms of abuse; at least that was my experience. Where there is space cycling infrastructure can work, but in many cities the need to segregate horses with carts and cyclists wasn't considered during planing. Where are we going to put these new mini roads? Cycling infrastructure is here already in the form of roads and one of the reasons it is so unsafe is due to the prevalence of poor behaviour from category B license holders who are rarely held accountable for their actions. If there were accountability and people who think that endangering others to get where they are going half a second quicker is a birthright were banned from using the shared space known as the roads, then we'd be getting somewhere. Education only works where there isn't a sense of entitlement and self righteousness protecting the ego. It's got to work all ways too so that idiot cyclists don't get away with endangering pedestrians, or injuring standing bus passengers by forcing PCV drivers to take avoiding action with non-seatbelt wearing passengers onboard. It would be nice one day for more people to chose bicycles instead of cars as the default, so that means the need for a lot of space for cycling which is not a narrow strip that skims past bus shelters and shop fronts.
Thanks Ashley for pointing out the behaviours that people like Jeremy Vine & Cycling Mikey refuse to. I cycle & I drive and follow the rules whilst doing both. Maintain the best flow for everyone & the streets will be safe for all
It's hard to obey the traffic rules because of the stupid placement of cycle traffic lights where I live. There is only so much nonsense I can put up with where I live.
@@adenwellsmith6908 I don't know! You'll have to ask him. Still, a car being driven badly is much more dangerous than a bicycle being ridden badly- stopping bad driving will yield better results than stopping bad riding.
I think though that he probably was concerned about the very limited space he would have between the kerb and oncoming vehicle, which probably caused him to make this error. The vehicle pulling out should have been more careful.
Watching this collection, and the plethora of other cycle-cam and dash-cam videos published in recent times, I have formed the fundamental opinion that - A broad section of society do what they f**king like when using the public thoroughfare. This includes all types of road user. For a wide range of different examples of this laissez-fair attidute, I recommend watching the london dash cam.
I conclude that trying to reason with a bike rider is is like trying to explain string theory to a three year old. No matter the stupidity of the bike rider, (almost)every other bike rider will defend them, coming up with all & any excuses to defend the rider, often by trying to deflect blame or using a 3 year old's logic that as bikes only kill 2 or 3 people a year, it is ok for them to keep doing so. Or 'speed limits' don't apply to bikes' as if somehow that permits them to race in packs in Regents Park & kill a pensioner. In the same way vehicle laws had to be passed to protect the terminally stupid driver, like making seatbelts mandatory, we need new strict rules for bikes, bringing them in line with other road users. We can start with speed limits & mandatory hi-viz. If a bike lane is provided, they must use it. The other issue is that of policing. Just look at the pro-bikey groups when police do setup an operation to try & protect the terminally stupid bike rider, the pile-on with mealy-mouthed comments like 'why are they picking on bikes, cars do more damage' etc.
I think legislation against using a mobile whilst cycling is very unnecessary. Careless, inconsiderate and dangerous cycling are already offences and honestly motor vehicles are tons more dangerous (literally).
I feel if a cyclist was in an accident and they were using a hand-held phone - there’d already be a law that shows they were negligent / not in control. Don’t need an explicit law. Cars are far more dangerous therefore the law is explicit.
@@blake-gl4wn Yep I agree completely - they'd almost certainly be liable to prosecution for careless and inconsiderate cycling at least (using a mobile whilst cycling would normally be considered to be far below the minimum standard expected of a competent and careful cyclist)
Unclear what the point you're trying to make at the end is, because some adult bike users aren't safe that means infrastructure for bikes shouldn't be increased? Is that not a bit like saying because Cycling Mikey has daily clips of drivers on phones that we shouldn't invest in roads?
I half agree, seems like it's an argument being made in bad faith though. I don't see why some cyclists not following rules is a reason for not investing in infrastructure and making things safer for younger cyclists, if that's the game then how might we punish all drivers for those that break the rules?
@@AshleyNeal-JustCyclingIt doesn't have to be one or the other. Improving infrastructure will make cyclists safer on the roads, no question. What are councils going to do, make sure every cyclist is following the rules before improving the infrastructure?
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Your cycling fallacy is… We need more cycle training, not cycling infrastructure “If people were trained to cycle on the road, there would be no need for cycling infrastructure”
I wonder if videos like this, which seem to promote stereotypes of bad behavior help anyone, or promote an antagonistic treatment (by car drivers in particular) of other vulnerable people. Cycling using mobile phone is already illegal, though not a specific offense. I find other Ashley videos with the theme of 'have I been seen' or 'think about the space' and especially 'make it a non-event' far more helpful.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I find the videos where you point out how to avoid/ deal with potential problems to be very useful. But without the solutions it becomes a finger pointing exercise, and I don't think that helps. So yes, don't just show fails on your other channels without the solutions. Make them a 'non-event' please, which you usually do very well.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling it's interesting seeing the difference in comments between driving and cycling fail videos. For the driving fails it's "the driver in that clip", whereas in the cycling fails it's "cyclists always do X". Nobody groups all motorists together, they acknowledge that there's good ones and bad. But so many are happy to tar all cyclists with the same brush.
Make HOLDING a phone while cycling illegal….agreed! However, phones on bikes are immensely useful for sat nav…so we need to be allowed to view them…ok?
Playing devil's advocate, in the second clip there's a small chance that the lights were activated by car's presence and wouldn't have changed for a cyclist. Doesn't excuse them not stopping for a moment, unless they've driven through that set of lights before and know that it doesn't work for them.
I'm struggling to work out what happened at 2:36. I thought maybe he rubbed up against the kerb, but he's too far away from it. He did do a very good job at not falling off though, especially while holding that coffee and not spilling any of it. It's a shame he hit that parked car though.
This is even worse - pick-up-and-ride bikes can be just picked up by the most inept "cyclists" - at least if you buy a bike you've made some sort of commitment. Imagine if there were cars freely available for anyone unqualified to drive around?
It's a consequence of policing roads by camera rather than by officers. Motorists are usually easy to catch (or at least prosecute after the fact) because of their number plates, but obviously it doesn't work with cyclists. Tear down all the cameras, use the money saved to hire actual police officers to patrol roads. They also come with a side benefit of being a visible deterrent to other more serious crimes.
1:15 Completely stupid driving by the bmw. Why not just drive in the direction they are pointing and sort it out somewhere more sensible? As for the cyclist - nothing really wrong there. He didn’t hold anyone up or put himself at risk. Just took a path through the situation that no (jealous) car driver could follow.
I don’t really have an issue with bikes “holding up traffic”. Every time I haul 4 empty seats into town - I’m unnecessarily “holding up traffic”. Not to mention the impoliteness of my exhaust fumes.
@@blake-gl4wn I cycle and drive. On the bike I’ll look for places to move in, slow down a bit and wave cars past if I feel I’m holding them up. Most cars are careful and courteous as well, at least where I live. It’s just the small minority on bikes and in cars that cause all the aggravation and danger.
Really? Why can't you believe that? Laws are generally created in response to a problem. Laws are not there for 'best practise' or 'just in case'. How many people have been killed by cyclists because they were using a mobile phone? I'll give you a challenge, look for 'killed mobile phone cyclist' and see how many of the news articles that come back were due to a cyclist and how many were due to a driver. I bet you can't find a single cyclist in a hundred drivers at fault.
@@WhereWeRoll the cyclist possibly ran a red, but the pedestrian also did by the looks of it. The cyclist sees the pedestrian, backs off, then when the pedestrian sees the lights are changing and sprints diagonally so they can cross the next junction, the cyclist takes the opportunity to get a head start on the motorised traffic. No big deal IMO and nobody put at risk.
i don't know why you put out these videos (other than for cheap clicks), they are not educational. It is too easy to say that there are bad cyclists about and then blame them for their injuries, but you are just reinforcing the wrong notion that cyclists are the problem. in the last 10 years cyclists have been responsible for 30 deaths, mostly pedestrians but also other cyclists. in the same time period motor vehicles have killed more than 340 pedestrians who were on the pavement, about 4000 pedestrians,1000 cyclists and been responsible for the death of more than 17000 people. Department of Transport stats state that 5% of drivers use their phones, 5% of drivers drink and drive, 50% of drivers break the speed limit in +30mph zones and 85% of drivers break the speed limit in 20mph zones. Your statement at 1:39 is just untrue, check it with the Dep of transport site. The large factors in deaths is inattentive drivers, speed, left hooks and close passes. yes cyclists must take responsibility for their actions and like most other modes of transport you are not that much quicker if you jump the lights. But the moral panic should not be at the group who are responsible for 30 deaths but at the group who are responsible for 17000 deaths in the last 10 years. You must also remember that there is virtually no infrastructure for cyclists and outrage when money is spent on vulnerable road users if it impinges on 'car drivers space'.
Some extra info for the clip at 1:35 for those taking these sharp 90 degree turns off a sliproad...watch out for those using the paths that can be hidden. The cyclist in this clip was easy to see with the "greenery" being nice and short. However this year is a different story. No-Mow May having been with us and I suspect lots of budget cuts (pun intended) it is unlikely that the greenery will be cut this year and it has made anyone using the path impossible to see so it is important to exit at a speed that you are able to stop should anyone be just around the corner
@@thomaselliot2257 I always fear Ashley using my clips and saying those words…”my viewer could do better here…” It has only been said the once as far as I can recall
In the UK between 2018-22, there were 888 cyclists killed or seriously injured in collisions where "Cyclist entered road from pavement" was cited as a contributory cause. Source: DfT Reported road casualties in Great Britain: pedal cycle factsheet, 2022
Obviously I would never do it in the UK because the rule doesn't exist and therefore people don't know to look out for it, but in the US, Australia and I think some other places you can turn in left (when driving on the left) or right (when driving on the right) from a red light in many places, just as long as you check that it's clear in the same way as a normal T junction, and give priority to anyone with a green light
1:30 Taunton East Street is very busy with lots of people parking, crossing the roads, stepping off the pavement etc. In my opinion the footways are too narrow and not good for pedestrian safety in a shopping area. It needs to be pedestrianised as there are plenty of other routes for vehicles.
When I cycle I will not hesitate to tell off dangerous cyclists when they break the rules. I can completely 100% understand why drivers of the UK want cyclists to be made to have number plates and licenses too.
@3:15 And just who is the arbiter of whether there is "risk" ? For some, what the cyclist did was *_HIGH_* risk. And, obviously for the cyclist in the clip as well as for others, there was *_no_* risk. It is best to implement *_and_* enforce *_clear_* rules that apply to *_everyone_* . Here in Quebec City where I live, there are a lot of cyclists who don't seem to care about the risks they are taking, or the rules they are breaking. Unfortunately, they are not required to take a test and get a cycling license. And, the police, even when they are around, don't seem to want to enforce the highway code. Sadly, in the event of a crash that is quite obviously the fault of the cyclist, it is the car driver who more often than not gets the blame.
The cyclist who jumped the temporary lights I believe would have taken to the footpath if a vehicle had come from the other direction, certainly people happy to break one rule are generally happy to break others.
@@Tailspin80 difficult to answer without knowledge of your local laws and levels of enforcement. Here in New Zealand it is an offence to park obstructing the footpath, how the law is enforced can vary depending on the circumstances. For instance, if a vehicle parks obstructing the footpath in the city or town centre where it is expected there will be pedestrians it will be rigorously enforced, likewise around schools, if it is forcing pedestrians (often children) into the road. If it is in a quiet residential area and there is still room to get a pushchair or mobility scooter along the footpath it will probably not receive an infringement. If the driver is present and they willing to reparkin a more appropriate location and can be educated, that is the first option taken. Sometimes the road is so narrow that parking fully on the road can obstruct the flow of traffic, and if it is workers on a construction site who need to access tools and materials, sometimes the footpath is the lesser of the two evils. It may also depend whether there has been a complaint about the parking from a member of the public. Nothing is black and white, and gaining compliance is more beneficial than writing a ticket.
@@iallso1 Yes, similar in the U.K. Parking or driving on the pavement is illegal except for access to your property but in practice people will park anywhere and if it doesn’t cause a problem not prosecuted. Then there are builders vans, delivery drivers etc who just put on the hazards warning lights and stop anywhere. It works as a system but relies on people being reasonable.
1:33, the black SUV turnIng around... There is a roundabout 100 yards down the road that they should have used, it probably would have been quicker than turning in the road.
I know when I got hit the driver was in pieces and had been crying for a good 10 minutes in the car. Thiet fault but that's not important here. They where that badly shaken they almost got themselves hit by a car. I had to tell them to get off the road. I would never deliberately put myself at risk of being hit going through a set of lights
1:13 BMW parked the wrong way, then on top of that, decides to do a three point turn. Motorists wouldn't think twice about overtaking a cyclist, why should it be any different the other way around? (I am a cyclist and a motorist... I wouldn't have parked like that and I certainly wouldn't attempt a u turn either, far safer and quicker to drive on.)
Given that the BMW was determined to pull off that stupid manoeuvre, it's in everybody's interest that he gets it over and done with as soon as possible. Furthermore, had the BMW reversed at the moment the cyclist passed, the cyclist would have been in serious trouble. The fact that the other party was in the wrong is not of much comfort when you are dead.
It's crazy what the invention of the mobile phone has done to people's brains. Don't understand why so many are glued to their devices 24/7 anyway, but when they start endangering others, it becomes a problem. Agree that phone use while cycling should be illegal, but I doubt it'd be enforced much, and these muppets would just ignore it.
Ashley, could you please do a video on pedestrians and cyclists wearing dark clothes at night? There needs to be a law for at least 1 item of reflective clothing or a clip strip or snap band around a leg or arm. The amount of times I've encountered pedestrians and cyclists wearing dark clothes at night is crazy. No chance of being seen until the last minute
Using a mobile phone whilst driving is still very common, I think that instead of six points on the license it should be a six month ban, a much greater deterrent. With regard to cyclists as they don't need licenses, registration or insurance it's a bit difficult to know how police them other than fines.
I think there has been a reduction in use of headphones with mobiles resulting in more cyclists holding/using their phones when cycling. Also you get passengers on buses playing noisy media content eg youtube plus some pedestrians are fixated with their phones when walking on pavements and don’t look ahead.
Drivers don;'t get life sentences for killing cyclists, often they don't even to go to jail. So why does the maker of this video opine with such confidence that drivers are going to get a life sentence if they kill a cyclist. It' is factually wrong.
He doesn't mean a custodial sentence. He means they have to live with what happened. It happened to a family member of his who, despite not being at fault, subsequently took their life due to the trauma. Now he and his family have to live with that because of one selfish cyclist.
0:48 I must have misunderstood Ash's statement here. The cars are not being selfish by not going when they have a green light. They were simply making this a non-event by holding back because the passthrough wasn't clear. The cyclist was most definitely being selfish, so I'm gonna say that Ashley switched from talking about the car to talking about the cyclist without saying any transition words.
@@DemiGod.. "I think the oncoming vehicles do spot the cyclist, and don't go through when they probably had a green light." He is talking about the car.
I fully agree with the comments about responsibility. I think lots of cyclists need to do better, especially with red lights. However, i disagree about lifr sentence if hit. The courts do not care if a cyclist are hit.
We live in an era of "me first", or put another way "I'm going to do what I want to do". That's not just cyclists, it's everyone (exceot you and me of course), a social phenomenon.
Extra: I advocate registration plates for cycles….Those who break laws and cause actual damage should be held to account. As it is, they can often simply ride away with no come back.
it's worth noting that every other country somehow manages without licence plates for bicycles. The only one that enforces licence plates for bicycles is North Korea .. and I don't think we should look to them for policies.
Have u ever reported a car for jumping a red light? Cycling mikey reports drivers for going the wrong way at a junction - and they don’t get prosecuted. Why bother reporting a push bike.
@@blake-gl4wn They do often get prosecuted for illegal actions like phone use at the wheel. Police must have incontrovertible evidence to push a prosecution…often a bad clip is not enough.
It's clear that there are two levels of pedal cycle users - on the one hand there are cyclists that adhere to the rules of the road and consider other road users, and on the other, there are bike riders who constantly break all of the rules repeatedly, habitually and with complete impunity. See the cyclist at 3:08 run the red light before using the pedestrian crossing to cross the road. He's not a cyclist - he's part of the underclass of selfish idiots that see themselves as wheeled pedestrians. Despite what cycling organisations say, in urban areas outside of London, these delinquents make up the majority of pedal-powered vehicle riders.
in my part of the states, the highway code says that if bicycles are in a traffic lane, they are bound by traffic laws, and if they are in a pedestrian lane, they are bound by pedestrian laws,; unless there is a bicycle specific law regarding a specific activity.
No two ways about it,using a mobile while cycling should be illegal Control and awareness are as important ,if only for the cyclist's own safety, as when driving
in the Netherlands it is illegal to hold your phone in your hands while being in control of a vehicle. Even a cyclist is not allowed to do it. BUT: Obviously people think they know better and they just continu using apps on their phone while participating in today's traffic. And then when things go wrong, when the s starts hitting the f, they scratch their head and reply with something stupid like: Huh? How did that happen? Luckily we Evolved from Amoeba to what we are today, ey? Hahahaha
btw, the clip at 3:20 is funny. You say the driver of the car will feel guilty for the death of a cyclist, even if it were to happen like this and they are themselves not at fault. "Some people would never get over it and it's through no fault of their own" But actually, mr Neal. It still is somewhat of a fault if they continu through a green light without making absolutely sure they can continu. Isn't it? I hear you say stuff like that all the time.
I'm a cyclist, I'd be more than happy for it to be illegal to use a phone whilst cycling. But the police aren't currently taking much action on drivers using their phones and even when they do, most near me are issued with warning (you got away with it!) letters for phone use, so I doubt any law change would have any effect.
It is in the UK. The offence is Careless Cycling. Problem is that its not being used. There's no explicit law that says its illegal. I had a long talk with a police inspector this morning about cyclists and this was part of it. He thinks he can get some trial prosecutions. That leads to publicity and hopefully it can be nipped in the bud.
1:10 true that's a bad place to turn around, but all the more reason for anyone, especially a cyclist, to hold back and wait for the unpredictable person to finish making their mistakes.
1:28, may not be the best place but once the BMW turns we can see the traffic was held up so not time was lost. 2:36, rod narrows and cammer still pulls out, were they responsible for hat happened?
I don't think the BMW slowed anybody down when he turned around, because the lights down the road were luckily on red (Not that the cyclist cared, he ran the red anyway)
If only the 🤡🤡 featured on this vid had a similar level of training to the Dog shown in your earlier YT short. However, suffice to say that Rover has an advantage..... S/he does not get distracted by a Mobile phone 📱. However..... If Tiddles the 🙀 Cat rocked up....... I dare not predict the outcome 😮. TLDR - Make 📱 use ILLEGAL for ALL Road Users.
Ashley can be hilarious sometimes and I agree with many of the criticisms here, but it is necessary to understand the mechanics of cycling to understand why cyclists do some of the things they do even if you don't agree with them. I don't in most of these cases. For one rental bikes are quite heavy and slow to get started which accounts for why many of their users tend to jump red lights. Coming to a complete stop and trying to pick up speed with heavier vehicles close alongside you can be quite dangerous and with those heavier rental bikes you "will" wobble if you don't have CycleGaz power. They also charge by the minute and waiting at those red lights does cost money🤔🤔🙄🙄 4:35 The rider with the girl on the back did the right thing, which was to slow down and try to go without stopping after accounting for pedestrians. Stopping with the girl behind and starting off with cars accelerating alongside would have even been more dangerous as they could easily wobble into the path of the cars. Of course he shouldn't have picked her up, but even on his own it would have been a bit of a problem. I don't know about Netherlands law on riding pinion, but they seem to do that quite easily because of their separated bike lanes and driver attitudes. 0:00 The same thing applies to the first clip of the cyclist who went round the pedestrian. He noticed the pedestrian, slowed down with the intention of going round behind but picked up when the pedestrian decided to run. Again trying to pick up speed when the lights go green with heavier vehicles accelerating alongside in that narrow space is just not smart. He even had to ride out of the saddle with greater wobbling just get up to speed because the road was going uphill then. His intention would have been to get ahead and take a proper position ahead before the red lights went green as the roads tend to narrow after leaving intersections. 2:02 The guy new what he was doing. Dropped bars, proper cycling jacket with rear elastic pockets, hi viz? Probably experienced and skilled at one-handed riding. He was fine. He dropped into the road at a shallow angle knowing that drivers don't drive up against the kerb. He was most certainly aware of what was going on around him. 0:25 The guy going through the roadworks was also fine. Most roads are wide enough to accommodate a vehicle and a cyclist, and this case is not much different from one-way streets with counterflow cycling if the oncoming vehicles are accommodating. He could also hop onto the kerb if a wide vehicle like a truck came through. It wasn't wise though. Most of these issues are down to inadequate cycling infrastructure. Lack of properly segregated bike lanes, ie not painted lines with or without plastic bollards is the main issue here. Technically speaking, coming to a complete stop on a bike actually means falling of the bike and using your leg to brace the fall, and cyclists do their best to avoid that in tight spaces if it will result in impatient drivers accelerating and overtaking them from behind on the green lights. Ashley needs to do some more riding on acoustic push bikes rather than the electric push bikes he loves which make riding away on the green lights much easier. That will result in a better understanding of some of these behaviours and if more drivers rode bicycles as well they would too. As far drivers not being allowed to do the stuff cyclists get away with that's simple. Motor vehicles weigh up to 44 tonnes and can easily accelerate to the 30mph urban street limit, a speed which few commuter cyclists are able to reach let alone sustain.
Mechanics of cycling my arse. It's a bunch of entitled twats who think they're too special to stop at lights, obey one way streets et c. If you don't want to obey the law, stay off the roads. (and no, that doesn't mean cycle on non-shared footpaths.)
@@squicker You should read the first paragraph properly. In fact read the whole thing properly and avoid the selective quoting you use to make your point. The main point here is that British cycling infrastructure sucks, which causes people who are inclined to be law abiding to break the law to make themselves safer. Take the guy at 0:00. If there was an ASL there, most riders would be content to get to it and stop. And if its lights allowed a 10-15 sec start for bicycles before changing for motor vehicles that would even be better. Note that the road goes uphill in that direction. Ashley goes on and on about bad cycling but never talks about bad govt attitudes and the consequent execrable infrastructure.
The law is the law at the end of the day. Although I laugh when ppl whinge about cyclists being selfish / inconsiderate - whilst they haul 4 empty seats around and spew exhaust fumes.
I don't think U-turns should be performed on busy streets where other traffic will be held up, I see it particularly outside of schools where parents only seem to be concerned about the well-being of their own children, and don't give a damn about other children in the vicinity.
2:25 no lack of control there, they were just negotiating whether to pass in front or behind the oncoming vehicle. A cyclist will always prefer to pass behind, seemed fine to me.
02:50 And did the cyclist leave a note on the car for the damage? Nope. Hit and Run. Some of these cyclists will not have a driving licence and probably never read the highway code. They don't bother stopping at red lights, don't look behind or signal, assuming that it is fully the car drivers responsibility to keept them safe , not themselves. If we look at the cyclist that didnt know he was being followed, he turned right without bothering to signal.
Your reply makes it sound like these issues are solely caused by cyclists. I have had vehicles damaged in the past by other drivers when unattended. Did any of these drivers leave a note? No. I see many, many examples of poor driving every day by drivers who have blatantly not read the highway code for years. The most recent changes seem to have been ignored by most, if not all drivers around where I live.
I've had my wing mirror smashed off while parked on the road, reasonable to assume by another motorist. No note was left. Also I've seen plenty of cars make turns without indicating, let's not pretend that it's only cyclists who fail to do that sometimes.
There simply cannot be a system where one set of road users is allowed to behave how they please and have to be 'looked after' by everyone else. Implement laws which make it possible to prosecute cyclists (and enforce them) and a lot of this behaviour would stop.
1:32 it's East Street in Taunton - it's a very stupid place to turn round. They could go a couple of 100m forward and go round a roundabout and come back up the street. But the sort of halfwit who parks on the wrong side of the road wouldn't think about that either. 🙄
‘The cycling infrastructure needs to be improved’ Ok, yes it almost certainly does need to be improved but what are we going to do about the significant proportion of ‘cyclists’ misusing the existing infrastructure as it is? You know, the contingent whom seem to think that the rules and highway code doesn’t apply to them and go about in complete freestyle with minimal consideration for anyone else be it motorised road traffic or pedestrians on the pavement.
Quite right to call out cyclists on the phone. Making it illegal will have the same impact as it has done woth drivers: almost none. A large number of people use phknes will driving
One thing to note. Cyclists are the most vulnerable road users because they are forced to share the road with speeding multitonne vehicles. Pedestrians are less vulnerable because they are on the pavement most of the time.
I don't think I agree with making phone use itself illegal, all of these situations already come under due care and attention. If I have to check my maps or the time, there's no head unit or noise isolation so fully hands-free systems are less feasible. I do usually pull over, but this is almost identical to eg stopping at a light, I'd rather talk about whether I'm inattentive/inconsiderate/dangerous than whether I'm 'driving' at that moment. Given red light _jumping_ enforcement I imagine they would only care about those cases anyway.
if you really need to hear because you can't see the mounted screen when using sat nav, use ear buds. there no need to take a phone out the pocket and hold it whilst moving in traffic.
@@doverken8448 Using a mounted screen still takes your eyes off the road and hands off the bars, I meant microphone interaction. Ear buds would also reduce my awareness, and I don't want turn-by-turn directions, just occasional reorientation or to check a roundabout. I don't really use it while moving, but I do use it at traffic lights, which a ban would presumably include.
Anyway my point isn't to justify myself, it's that whatever you do, it's only an issue as far as it affects attention to the road, consideration to other road users, and other things which are already codified in law.
As a regular and responsible cyclist plus bike commuter, it makes my blood boil when fellow cyclists behave this way. It turns some motorists against us and increases the risk to us. I'm also sick of people making it a political issue.
Why worry? Just keep yourself safe, you can't control what anyone else does.
Yeah don't worry about it. It's people that are a problem, the mode of transport is irrelevant. I ride bikes...a lot...I'm a person not a cyclist. This video and others of it's type are pointless. The same people would be idiots in cars too. Don't define yourself and others by the mode of transport
I used to think like you when I first started commuting via bike, two years in I can safely say I really couldn’t give a f what a motorists thinks of me or my wreckless cycling, I’ll do what safest/best for me
Only in this country does it seem to be free reign on anyone with a bike, see it everyday in the city I live
@@andyedwards7800Well said.
All cyclists ride bikes.
NOT all people who ride bikes are 'cyclists'.
I got ranted and sworn at by a black cab driver while on my bike in Bloomsbury the other day. The guy was nasty, and there was no provocation from me other than an arm raised in exasperation, and I don't intend to make any excuses for him; he shouldn't be a cabbie with an attitude like that. But all that pent-up anger and resentment against people on bikes came from somewhere, and it wasn't from how I was riding. So many Central London cyclists take the piss.
Distracted drivers and cyclists are a hazard. If you drive or cycle, assume that everyone else is drunk texting while facing backwards during a violent spousal argument on their earbuds.
I also do this as a pedestrian
The cyclist who hit the car while trying to balance his coffee, also made no check on if he'd damaged the car and simply cycled away. Where's the responsibility?
They don't give a shit as cars are the enemy!
Most people would do the same thing as there is little to no risk of being caught.
@@dtz1000 I am glad that I am not most people then as I hit a car on my bike and went to find the owner of the vehicle to give them my details and offered to pay for any damage caused so some of us cyclists do give a 'shit' (@emmetb1965) and take ''responsibility' (@EvilGav)!!
He was also going the wrong way down a one way street.
@@dtz1000 There was a car behind with a dashcam. The police though wouldnt do anyhing unless they recognised him, they won't try to find him.
I will admit that cyclists need to start following the rules of the road, and I do agree with you that being on your phone whilst cycling should be illegal. But that doesn't negate the need for proper cycling infrastructure so that *EVERYONE* who is riding (not just kids) can do so safely, both in the UK and in the USA.
Agree.
I want to feel safe and want safe infrastructure - not sure why a few prats who ride like plonkers has any relevance on that.
3:30 ok, they should have taken primary, but that's not illegal. There was nothing wrong with this cyclist just pootling along the road. They are no risk to anyone! If you can't cope with being patient for a few seconds, you should not have a driving licence.
The cyclist was just cycling, the driver needed to hold back as no safe overtake is possible, which they actually did. This was (in the chosen words of Mr Neal) a non-event. Yet somehow the cyclist is criticised. Getting the phone out was not a brilliant move, but even so the driver needs to drive carefully around them and they do that. This was not a cycling fail.
@@sedumjp exactly. it's a bit rich complaining about a cyclist briefly checking their phone, when you drive around looking into a camera. None are illegal, but you could just as well say “make vlogging whilst driving illegal” as “make phone use on bikes illegal”!
Something doesn't have to be illegal for it to be a fail.
The fails in this clip were both the total lack of awareness (the fact the car was following for quite some time without the cyclist even knowing) and the phone use.
Sure, neither are illegal, but if a cyclist was to hit a pedestrian and seriously injure/kill them whilst demonstrating such a lack of awareness through phone use or not, you can bet they'd be prosecuted.
Ultimately Ashley's videos are more about raising awareness of best or bad practices for the purpose of education.
@@dgard1981 for goodness sake, no pedestrians were put at risk and the phone use was extremely brief - same as a shoulder check. The car following was an electric vehicle so probably not easy to hear, but in any case, if the driver is driving appropriately why does the cyclist need to be aware of them??!
@@squicker daydreaming for 3 mins? you made me go back and check, the whole thing was only 40 seconds and I don't think they were daydreaming. Even when they slow down at the zebra crossing, it's mainly because there's an oncoming car and they need to wait for it to pass before turning right. Riding slowly and wobbling a bit is still better than stopping and having to put a foot down. These hire bikes are heavy and slow to ride, not everyone is bombing around on a borderline legal e-bike like Ashley!
I am also hyper aware on my bicycle (I've put some clips up to demonstrate how I manage motorists), but you shouldn't have to ride like a ninja to be safe on the roads.
it is a real shame that a lot of these are rental bikes. I wonder how much inexperience and infrequency of cycle usage plays into these incidents.
I cycle daily, and often the worst cycling I see is from people on bikeshare bikes, and a lot if it is they simply just aren't that experienced.
I reckon a total disregard for other people and lack of personal responsibility are probably bigger factors. There are many road riding enthusiasts who have plenty of experience on the road and act just as selfishly. Very few of the incidents in these clips are down to lack of bike control but yeah, on the whole inexperienced riders will probably be worse.
I think that's a factor, and also price being based on time. I'd like to see rentals charged by distance as a ploy to have more rental bike users stop at red lights rather than rushing to save their pennies. In London it can feel like a lot of road users are on timers these days...
It is the same for rental cars
If someone doesn't have the self control to set aside £200 to buy their own bike then they'll probably ride like a div on the roads.
You're right, the different types of cyclists behave very differently.
The one that spilt his coffee while riding clearly isn't a cyclist, he was just popped on a rental to get his coffee thinking he was French or something.
Also so many of these are delivery drivers, and no matter what vehicle they use, many are crazily under pressure to deliver on time and take huge risks.
Many are also just local youths on a bike. I too was once young, and going around on a bike like you own the place is fun at that age, but they're not "cyclists" by nature.
Hardly any clips Ash does of these are commuter or leisure cyclists like I am. The majority of us know our bodies, our bikes and our safety, because we have to.
That last comment about how seeing lots of adults being submitted to Cycling Fail somehow negates the need to build proper cycling infrastructure has really confused me. I have no clue how adults breaking traffic laws on shared roads has anything to do with building better separated cycle-only roads/lanes to reduce the amount cyclists and drivers need to interact.
I feel like maybe you don’t realise that infrastructure creates demand just as much as demand creates infrastructure, but maybe I’ve misinterpreted.
Infrastructure doesn’t improve safety as much as following the rules
Where infrastructure is improved, a lot of cyclists ignore it anyway. It should be an offence to cycle on the road where a cycle path is provided.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling In your opinion. And if you went back a few decades, you'd find that opinion prevalent in the cycling community as well. But over the course of those decades, the vehicular cycling approach has failed to produce the desired results, and general opinion has now shifted to wanting to emulate the undeniable success of places like the Netherlands.
Vehicular cycling may still be a useful survival technique, but it has failed as a public policy.
I took a police inspector out this morning. Cycle route. All the infrastructure. The first 10 cyclists jumped the reds, to cross the A2.
So your idea, if only, ... is wrong
@wasspj most are not worth it , just a path with a white line on it . They don't coverd with glass or dog walkers with long leads, and the fact anything over 12 mph you should be on the road
Here in the Netherlands, use of a mobile phone while cycling is illegal. However it is hardly enforced and so many cyclists ignore the law.
We have another plague now and that is the trend of the fat bikes which are capable of huge (electric assisted) speeds ridden often by young children.
It is in the uk - careless cycling
I have a phone on a quad lock mount on my bike. Seems pretty safe to me. Handheld not so much.
@@Tailspin80 Watch when you are out and about. How many deliveroo riders do you see playing the game. Hit the button to get the job. Whilst going down the road.
@@adenwellsmith6908 Maybe in London but we live outside the M25 and you don’t see many. Most cyclists are the serious Lycra clad variety
@@Tailspin80 It is a localised problem. The root cause is the criminal thinking of those involved.
The solution is the police and confiscation and fines.
On Friday I took a police inspector out for a two hour visit to the area.
What was interesting that at one point he was very worried about his own personal safety because of cyclists and e-bikes. He was in uniform too. What hope is there for the peasants then?
4:40 so why do you think you don't see kids? Kids don't ride their bike without infrastructure. (Or they'll ride on the pavement)
The few adults who do are mostly those who are willing to take insane risks, the rest simply won't cycle either.
A big problem is that following the rules is often *also* mortally dangerous without suitable infrastructure.
Kids do ride their bikes without infrastructure lol. Most of them don’t give a shit about it. I see them riding on the wrong side of the road often.
The third clip I know of someone that got killed when they cycled off the pavement. I heard when he looked back he had veered into the road . Where he would have been safer on the road . If i see anyone cycling on the pavement I always allow a margin of saftey to allow the cyclist to come off the pavement. It's something I have always done long before we need rules telling us to look after the vulnerable
I can't find the statistics right now, but from memory, I'm pretty sure one of the biggest contributory factors in the KSI number for cyclists is a failure to look, and one of the most dangerous maneuvers is cyclist entering the road.
What's the point in making phone use illegal on bicycles if there are no police around to catch law breakers? Making phone use illegal when driving seems to have had no effect whatsoever on the amount of drivers doing it. I regularly see no end of drivers tapping away, staring at their crotch or holding the phone in one hand chatting away. Why? Because there are no police around to catch them. It's pointless taking the time, effort and cost to make phone use while cycling illegal if prosecution is rare.
Agreed. I'd support the use of tech in new vehicles that disables phones while the ignition is on. Passengers could maybe rediscover the joy of gazing out the window or, shock horror, having an actual conversation with someone.
Crap cycling will only get more commonplace the more we lazily rely on delivery from ordering takeaways
Well it's already illegal to use a phone whilst driving yet people still do that!
Yes, but if the Police see a car driver using their phone whilst driving, they get done for it whilst the cyclist will get away scot free.
2:10 While phone use while cycling is not a crime in itself, "If a person rides a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence." [RTA 1988, section 29] and covers 99% of phone use while cycling. It just needs to be enforced more.
3:30 really not an issue Ashley, not sure what you're saying here. The phone check shouldn't have happened but it's not the cyclist's responsibility to stop and let the car through. He had full entitlement to the road and used it. There is an assumption that because of the speed that he is unaware of car behind, but I wouldn't be so certain - if that was me I'd certainly be able to hear the car behind, and if I was certain there was no safe overtake, I would continue as he does
i only saw 2 cyclists in this video, all the others were just people on bikes
Clear skies and sunshine? You've clearly been hanging on to some of these clips for quite a while 🤣
skies
Last week I seen a cyclist getting pulled after going through a set of lights right in front of the police. I thought good on you . I don't even go through road works in the middle of nowhere. Never mind in the city
It shows how little attention they pay when jumping red lights if they dont even spot a policecar
@DemiGod.. they come down the right filtering, no issues there. The police were in a left lane to go left and bus was in lane to go straight so would be obscured from view . They rightly got pulled . The thing is they would lose more time speaking to the police than they saved so it really wasn't worth jumping the lights.
Thanks for the video, buddy. I was always cautious when cycling, but now im 10x more cautious.
While I agree that cycling while distracted is not acceptable, VASTLY more people are killed or injured each year by drivers using their phones or otherwise impaired than are by bikes.
No need to state the obvious
The amount of cyclists that have to film while they are riding really annoys me, so I think the phone laws need to be tightened for all road users
If the money spent on separating cyclists was spent on cycling proficiency training in schools and proper ongoing education for motorists about road sharing, things might actually improve.
Absolutely: the policy of segregation at the moment also puts cyclists much closer to pedestrians which increases risk to people walking.
things would also improve for cyclists if certian routes were car free. CPT does not protect you from bad motorists, if you could educate impatience of of motorists there'd be no need for speed traps.
Swansea sea front has a long wide lane split pedestrian cycle route. Its rare to see pedestrains walking in the cycle lane due to speeds being 10 to 20mph, there's also no need to walk in it. Increased risk to pedestrians is purly down to inadequate infrastructure, much like a stretch of road with no pavement, and we all expect pedestrians to know that walking the middle of a country lane at blind bends is no recommended as it increases risk.
@@mikewade777 You're right there. I've found that in Scotland where there is no pavement that motorists generally go round you with no drama whilst you are correctly walking on the right, and crossing over to be seen at bends. In the South of England there seems to be the mentality with motorists that you must have a car to get around and anybody walking will endure deliberate close passes, deafening horn tones and other forms of abuse; at least that was my experience.
Where there is space cycling infrastructure can work, but in many cities the need to segregate horses with carts and cyclists wasn't considered during planing. Where are we going to put these new mini roads?
Cycling infrastructure is here already in the form of roads and one of the reasons it is so unsafe is due to the prevalence of poor behaviour from category B license holders who are rarely held accountable for their actions. If there were accountability and people who think that endangering others to get where they are going half a second quicker is a birthright were banned from using the shared space known as the roads, then we'd be getting somewhere. Education only works where there isn't a sense of entitlement and self righteousness protecting the ego. It's got to work all ways too so that idiot cyclists don't get away with endangering pedestrians, or injuring standing bus passengers by forcing PCV drivers to take avoiding action with non-seatbelt wearing passengers onboard.
It would be nice one day for more people to chose bicycles instead of cars as the default, so that means the need for a lot of space for cycling which is not a narrow strip that skims past bus shelters and shop fronts.
haven't ended up in an ashley cycling fail yet!
Thanks Ashley for pointing out the behaviours that people like Jeremy Vine & Cycling Mikey refuse to.
I cycle & I drive and follow the rules whilst doing both. Maintain the best flow for everyone & the streets will be safe for all
In his recumbent days Mikey did feature some clips of him berating people riding bicycles badly ("appalling riding" was used in one example)
It's hard to obey the traffic rules because of the stupid placement of cycle traffic lights where I live. There is only so much nonsense I can put up with where I live.
@@exsandgrounder It's London. He will see hundreds of offences a day by cyclists.
Why are they missing from his videos?
cyclemikey pays no attention to cyclist breaking the rules either
@@adenwellsmith6908 I don't know! You'll have to ask him. Still, a car being driven badly is much more dangerous than a bicycle being ridden badly- stopping bad driving will yield better results than stopping bad riding.
2:35 - Had me laughing my head off. What a pratt!
I think though that he probably was concerned about the very limited space he would have between the kerb and oncoming vehicle, which probably caused him to make this error. The vehicle pulling out should have been more careful.
Watching this collection, and the plethora of other cycle-cam and dash-cam videos published in recent times, I have formed the fundamental opinion that - A broad section of society do what they f**king like when using the public thoroughfare. This includes all types of road user. For a wide range of different examples of this laissez-fair attidute, I recommend watching the london dash cam.
Wonder if the Merc driver goes on to punish pass the errant cyclist after the footage cuts at 3:30?!
I conclude that trying to reason with a bike rider is is like trying to explain string theory to a three year old.
No matter the stupidity of the bike rider, (almost)every other bike rider will defend them, coming up with all & any excuses to defend the rider, often by trying to deflect blame or using a 3 year old's logic that as bikes only kill 2 or 3 people a year, it is ok for them to keep doing so. Or 'speed limits' don't apply to bikes' as if somehow that permits them to race in packs in Regents Park & kill a pensioner.
In the same way vehicle laws had to be passed to protect the terminally stupid driver, like making seatbelts mandatory, we need new strict rules for bikes, bringing them in line with other road users. We can start with speed limits & mandatory hi-viz. If a bike lane is provided, they must use it.
The other issue is that of policing. Just look at the pro-bikey groups when police do setup an operation to try & protect the terminally stupid bike rider, the pile-on with mealy-mouthed comments like 'why are they picking on bikes, cars do more damage' etc.
I think legislation against using a mobile whilst cycling is very unnecessary. Careless, inconsiderate and dangerous cycling are already offences and honestly motor vehicles are tons more dangerous (literally).
So it shouldn't be a specific offence for motorists?
@@Slaeowulf Motor vehicles are far more dangerous
I feel if a cyclist was in an accident and they were using a hand-held phone - there’d already be a law that shows they were negligent / not in control.
Don’t need an explicit law.
Cars are far more dangerous therefore the law is explicit.
@@blake-gl4wn Yep I agree completely - they'd almost certainly be liable to prosecution for careless and inconsiderate cycling at least (using a mobile whilst cycling would normally be considered to be far below the minimum standard expected of a competent and careful cyclist)
@@QiuEnnan And what's your point?
Unclear what the point you're trying to make at the end is, because some adult bike users aren't safe that means infrastructure for bikes shouldn't be increased?
Is that not a bit like saying because Cycling Mikey has daily clips of drivers on phones that we shouldn't invest in roads?
Infrastructure doesn’t improve safety as much as following the rules
I half agree, seems like it's an argument being made in bad faith though. I don't see why some cyclists not following rules is a reason for not investing in infrastructure and making things safer for younger cyclists, if that's the game then how might we punish all drivers for those that break the rules?
@@AshleyNeal-JustCyclingIt doesn't have to be one or the other. Improving infrastructure will make cyclists safer on the roads, no question. What are councils going to do, make sure every cyclist is following the rules before improving the infrastructure?
@@AshleyNeal-JustCyclingbut good infrastructure makes the rules almost impossible to break and makes it far less deadly for the minority who do.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Your cycling fallacy is…
We need more cycle training, not cycling infrastructure
“If people were trained to cycle on the road, there would be no need for cycling infrastructure”
I wonder if videos like this, which seem to promote stereotypes of bad behavior help anyone, or promote an antagonistic treatment (by car drivers in particular) of other vulnerable people. Cycling using mobile phone is already illegal, though not a specific offense. I find other Ashley videos with the theme of 'have I been seen' or 'think about the space' and especially 'make it a non-event' far more helpful.
Should I stop making the driving fails on the other channel also?
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I find the videos where you point out how to avoid/ deal with potential problems to be very useful. But without the solutions it becomes a finger pointing exercise, and I don't think that helps. So yes, don't just show fails on your other channels without the solutions. Make them a 'non-event' please, which you usually do very well.
@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling it's interesting seeing the difference in comments between driving and cycling fail videos. For the driving fails it's "the driver in that clip", whereas in the cycling fails it's "cyclists always do X".
Nobody groups all motorists together, they acknowledge that there's good ones and bad. But so many are happy to tar all cyclists with the same brush.
Make HOLDING a phone while cycling illegal….agreed! However, phones on bikes are immensely useful for sat nav…so we need to be allowed to view them…ok?
all they need to do is add "bicycle" to the law forbidding handeld phone use on a car or on a motorcycle.
Playing devil's advocate, in the second clip there's a small chance that the lights were activated by car's presence and wouldn't have changed for a cyclist. Doesn't excuse them not stopping for a moment, unless they've driven through that set of lights before and know that it doesn't work for them.
They do change for cyclists
@@inglish71 temp lights often dont.
When I was in that position and wasn't sure if it would change for me.
I got off and wheeled the bike along the pavement
When I was in that position and wasn't sure if it would change for me.
I got off and wheeled the bike along the pavement
When I was in that position and wasn't sure if it would change for me.
I got off and wheeled the bike along the pavement
I'm struggling to work out what happened at 2:36. I thought maybe he rubbed up against the kerb, but he's too far away from it. He did do a very good job at not falling off though, especially while holding that coffee and not spilling any of it. It's a shame he hit that parked car though.
he panicked when he spotted oncoming car and grabbed the brake :) Foolish riding hope he didn't scratch innocent car
I think he might've just braked a bit too hard
He hit the car, didn't even check if he did any damage, then toddled away.
What's the penalty for failing to report an accident?
The cam car shouldn't have pulled out until the cyclist had passed. There was no way the driver could pass any cyclist there with a safe enough space.
This is even worse - pick-up-and-ride bikes can be just picked up by the most inept "cyclists" - at least if you buy a bike you've made some sort of commitment. Imagine if there were cars freely available for anyone unqualified to drive around?
It's a consequence of policing roads by camera rather than by officers. Motorists are usually easy to catch (or at least prosecute after the fact) because of their number plates, but obviously it doesn't work with cyclists. Tear down all the cameras, use the money saved to hire actual police officers to patrol roads. They also come with a side benefit of being a visible deterrent to other more serious crimes.
1:15 Completely stupid driving by the bmw. Why not just drive in the direction they are pointing and sort it out somewhere more sensible? As for the cyclist - nothing really wrong there. He didn’t hold anyone up or put himself at risk. Just took a path through the situation that no (jealous) car driver could follow.
I don’t really have an issue with bikes “holding up traffic”.
Every time I haul 4 empty seats into town - I’m unnecessarily “holding up traffic”. Not to mention the impoliteness of my exhaust fumes.
@@blake-gl4wn I cycle and drive. On the bike I’ll look for places to move in, slow down a bit and wave cars past if I feel I’m holding them up. Most cars are careful and courteous as well, at least where I live. It’s just the small minority on bikes and in cars that cause all the aggravation and danger.
When I'm cycling my phone geos in a side pocket in my pannier bag.
I can't believe cycling whilst using a mobile isn't illegal!
Really? Why can't you believe that? Laws are generally created in response to a problem. Laws are not there for 'best practise' or 'just in case'. How many people have been killed by cyclists because they were using a mobile phone? I'll give you a challenge, look for 'killed mobile phone cyclist' and see how many of the news articles that come back were due to a cyclist and how many were due to a driver. I bet you can't find a single cyclist in a hundred drivers at fault.
0:05 almost hit that pedestrian? They were miles away!
If a motorist passed a cyclist that closely then the cultists would be shitting themselves in indignation. What a hypocritical bunch you are.
Yeah seems like an exaggeration but it does look like they ran a red light
@@WhereWeRoll the cyclist possibly ran a red, but the pedestrian also did by the looks of it. The cyclist sees the pedestrian, backs off, then when the pedestrian sees the lights are changing and sprints diagonally so they can cross the next junction, the cyclist takes the opportunity to get a head start on the motorised traffic. No big deal IMO and nobody put at risk.
Yeh that clip just shows a triggered driver. (And a cyclist running a red). But no near-miss.
With the preponderance of delivery cycles around I seriously think there should be some policing of these road/pavement users.
particularly the delivery scooters with L plates.
i don't know why you put out these videos (other than for cheap clicks), they are not educational. It is too easy to say that there are bad cyclists about and then blame them for their injuries, but you are just reinforcing the wrong notion that cyclists are the problem. in the last 10 years cyclists have been responsible for 30 deaths, mostly pedestrians but also other cyclists. in the same time period motor vehicles have killed more than 340 pedestrians who were on the pavement, about 4000 pedestrians,1000 cyclists and been responsible for the death of more than 17000 people. Department of Transport stats state that 5% of drivers use their phones, 5% of drivers drink and drive, 50% of drivers break the speed limit in +30mph zones and 85% of drivers break the speed limit in 20mph zones. Your statement at 1:39 is just untrue, check it with the Dep of transport site. The large factors in deaths is inattentive drivers, speed, left hooks and close passes. yes cyclists must take responsibility for their actions and like most other modes of transport you are not that much quicker if you jump the lights. But the moral panic should not be at the group who are responsible for 30 deaths but at the group who are responsible for 17000 deaths in the last 10 years. You must also remember that there is virtually no infrastructure for cyclists and outrage when money is spent on vulnerable road users if it impinges on 'car drivers space'.
2:36 dude cared more about his coffee not falling over than crashing into someone's car or potentially getting run over
Tis the life of the cityboog.
Some extra info for the clip at 1:35 for those taking these sharp 90 degree turns off a sliproad...watch out for those using the paths that can be hidden.
The cyclist in this clip was easy to see with the "greenery" being nice and short. However this year is a different story. No-Mow May having been with us and I suspect lots of budget cuts (pun intended) it is unlikely that the greenery will be cut this year and it has made anyone using the path impossible to see so it is important to exit at a speed that you are able to stop should anyone be just around the corner
I spotted that this was your clip right away.
@@thomaselliot2257 I always fear Ashley using my clips and saying those words…”my viewer could do better here…”
It has only been said the once as far as I can recall
2:34 ... the Coffee is safe! 😄
If adult cyclists can’t be trusted to follow the rules we shouldn’t be talking about kids cycling on the main roads.
You have to love the guy who hit the side of the parked car moved on without thought about leaving a note of apology or contact details.
In the UK between 2018-22, there were 888 cyclists killed or seriously injured in collisions where "Cyclist entered road from pavement" was cited as a contributory cause. Source: DfT Reported road casualties in Great Britain: pedal cycle factsheet, 2022
In other words, self inflicted
and what was the pedestrian casuality rate in that time, for entering the road from the pavement.
Obviously I would never do it in the UK because the rule doesn't exist and therefore people don't know to look out for it, but in the US, Australia and I think some other places you can turn in left (when driving on the left) or right (when driving on the right) from a red light in many places, just as long as you check that it's clear in the same way as a normal T junction, and give priority to anyone with a green light
1:30 Taunton East Street is very busy with lots of people parking, crossing the roads, stepping off the pavement etc. In my opinion the footways are too narrow and not good for pedestrian safety in a shopping area. It needs to be pedestrianised as there are plenty of other routes for vehicles.
When I cycle I will not hesitate to tell off dangerous cyclists when they break the rules. I can completely 100% understand why drivers of the UK want cyclists to be made to have number plates and licenses too.
1:19..... yeah, don't turn round like that
@3:15 And just who is the arbiter of whether there is "risk" ? For some, what the cyclist did was *_HIGH_* risk. And, obviously for the cyclist in the clip as well as for others, there was *_no_* risk.
It is best to implement *_and_* enforce *_clear_* rules that apply to *_everyone_* .
Here in Quebec City where I live, there are a lot of cyclists who don't seem to care about the risks they are taking, or the rules they are breaking. Unfortunately, they are not required to take a test and get a cycling license. And, the police, even when they are around, don't seem to want to enforce the highway code.
Sadly, in the event of a crash that is quite obviously the fault of the cyclist, it is the car driver who more often than not gets the blame.
The cyclist who jumped the temporary lights I believe would have taken to the footpath if a vehicle had come from the other direction, certainly people happy to break one rule are generally happy to break others.
There is an Audi 4x4 near where I live that parks half on the road and half on the pavement. Why is that ok and apparently never prosecuted?
@@Tailspin80 difficult to answer without knowledge of your local laws and levels of enforcement. Here in New Zealand it is an offence to park obstructing the footpath, how the law is enforced can vary depending on the circumstances. For instance, if a vehicle parks obstructing the footpath in the city or town centre where it is expected there will be pedestrians it will be rigorously enforced, likewise around schools, if it is forcing pedestrians (often children) into the road. If it is in a quiet residential area and there is still room to get a pushchair or mobility scooter along the footpath it will probably not receive an infringement. If the driver is present and they willing to reparkin a more appropriate location and can be educated, that is the first option taken. Sometimes the road is so narrow that parking fully on the road can obstruct the flow of traffic, and if it is workers on a construction site who need to access tools and materials, sometimes the footpath is the lesser of the two evils. It may also depend whether there has been a complaint about the parking from a member of the public. Nothing is black and white, and gaining compliance is more beneficial than writing a ticket.
@@iallso1 Yes, similar in the U.K. Parking or driving on the pavement is illegal except for access to your property but in practice people will park anywhere and if it doesn’t cause a problem not prosecuted. Then there are builders vans, delivery drivers etc who just put on the hazards warning lights and stop anywhere. It works as a system but relies on people being reasonable.
1:33, the black SUV turnIng around... There is a roundabout 100 yards down the road that they should have used, it probably would have been quicker than turning in the road.
I know when I got hit the driver was in pieces and had been crying for a good 10 minutes in the car. Thiet fault but that's not important here. They where that badly shaken they almost got themselves hit by a car. I had to tell them to get off the road. I would never deliberately put myself at risk of being hit going through a set of lights
1:19 perfect opportunity to get past, no issues.
Apparently one car (one person?) has right to all three lanes! lol.
Cyclist just using a better tool for the job.
1:13 BMW parked the wrong way, then on top of that, decides to do a three point turn. Motorists wouldn't think twice about overtaking a cyclist, why should it be any different the other way around? (I am a cyclist and a motorist... I wouldn't have parked like that and I certainly wouldn't attempt a u turn either, far safer and quicker to drive on.)
The driver was far worse than the cyclist. Most people wouldn't be expecting the driver to do a 3 point turn in a busy road like that.
Given that the BMW was determined to pull off that stupid manoeuvre, it's in everybody's interest that he gets it over and done with as soon as possible. Furthermore, had the BMW reversed at the moment the cyclist passed, the cyclist would have been in serious trouble. The fact that the other party was in the wrong is not of much comfort when you are dead.
It's crazy what the invention of the mobile phone has done to people's brains. Don't understand why so many are glued to their devices 24/7 anyway, but when they start endangering others, it becomes a problem. Agree that phone use while cycling should be illegal, but I doubt it'd be enforced much, and these muppets would just ignore it.
google sav nav is far more convenient and useful than a paper map.
3:50 He was obviously using the Highway Code Online to look up the hand signal for a right turn.
The law of the road for motorist should equally apply to cyclist, road speed, mobile use, jumping lights, etc!
Parking against the direction of traffic is a frustration of mine 😬
Ashley, could you please do a video on pedestrians and cyclists wearing dark clothes at night? There needs to be a law for at least 1 item of reflective clothing or a clip strip or snap band around a leg or arm. The amount of times I've encountered pedestrians and cyclists wearing dark clothes at night is crazy. No chance of being seen until the last minute
Using a mobile phone whilst driving is still very common, I think that instead of six points on the license it should be a six month ban, a much greater deterrent. With regard to cyclists as they don't need licenses, registration or insurance it's a bit difficult to know how police them other than fines.
I think there has been a reduction in use of headphones with mobiles resulting in more cyclists holding/using their phones when cycling. Also you get passengers on buses playing noisy media content eg youtube plus some pedestrians are fixated with their phones when walking on pavements and don’t look ahead.
0:50 b-but Ash they were only putting themselves in danger! 🙄😉
ebikes were banned for 3 months in a state in america after an old lady was killed by a kid on one. Her family would disagree
@@DemiGod..sarcasm mate.
Drivers don;'t get life sentences for killing cyclists, often they don't even to go to jail. So why does the maker of this video opine with such confidence that drivers are going to get a life sentence if they kill a cyclist. It' is factually wrong.
He doesn't mean a custodial sentence. He means they have to live with what happened. It happened to a family member of his who, despite not being at fault, subsequently took their life due to the trauma. Now he and his family have to live with that because of one selfish cyclist.
0:48 I must have misunderstood Ash's statement here. The cars are not being selfish by not going when they have a green light. They were simply making this a non-event by holding back because the passthrough wasn't clear. The cyclist was most definitely being selfish, so I'm gonna say that Ashley switched from talking about the car to talking about the cyclist without saying any transition words.
He was talking about the selfish cyclist the whole time
@@DemiGod.. "I think the oncoming vehicles do spot the cyclist, and don't go through when they probably had a green light." He is talking about the car.
I fully agree with the comments about responsibility. I think lots of cyclists need to do better, especially with red lights. However, i disagree about lifr sentence if hit. The courts do not care if a cyclist are hit.
We live in an era of "me first", or put another way "I'm going to do what I want to do". That's not just cyclists, it's everyone (exceot you and me of course), a social phenomenon.
Extra: I advocate registration plates for cycles….Those who break laws and cause actual damage should be held to account. As it is, they can often simply ride away with no come back.
What are you on about? Many of the cycles in this video had number plates.
it's worth noting that every other country somehow manages without licence plates for bicycles. The only one that enforces licence plates for bicycles is North Korea .. and I don't think we should look to them for policies.
Have u ever reported a car for jumping a red light?
Cycling mikey reports drivers for going the wrong way at a junction - and they don’t get prosecuted.
Why bother reporting a push bike.
@@blake-gl4wn They do often get prosecuted for illegal actions like phone use at the wheel. Police must have incontrovertible evidence to push a prosecution…often a bad clip is not enough.
@@shm5547 Funny!
It's clear that there are two levels of pedal cycle users - on the one hand there are cyclists that adhere to the rules of the road and consider other road users, and on the other, there are bike riders who constantly break all of the rules repeatedly, habitually and with complete impunity. See the cyclist at 3:08 run the red light before using the pedestrian crossing to cross the road. He's not a cyclist - he's part of the underclass of selfish idiots that see themselves as wheeled pedestrians. Despite what cycling organisations say, in urban areas outside of London, these delinquents make up the majority of pedal-powered vehicle riders.
in my part of the states, the highway code says that if bicycles are in a traffic lane, they are bound by traffic laws, and if they are in a pedestrian lane, they are bound by pedestrian laws,; unless there is a bicycle specific law regarding a specific activity.
No two ways about it,using a mobile while cycling should be illegal Control and awareness are as important ,if only for the cyclist's own safety, as when driving
in the Netherlands it is illegal to hold your phone in your hands while being in control of a vehicle.
Even a cyclist is not allowed to do it.
BUT: Obviously people think they know better and they just continu using apps on their phone while participating in today's traffic.
And then when things go wrong, when the s starts hitting the f, they scratch their head and reply with something stupid like: Huh? How did that happen?
Luckily we Evolved from Amoeba to what we are today, ey? Hahahaha
we can not possibly have evolved from Amoeba. Because Amoeba are more intelligent than we are
btw, the clip at 3:20 is funny.
You say the driver of the car will feel guilty for the death of a cyclist, even if it were to happen like this and they are themselves not at fault.
"Some people would never get over it and it's through no fault of their own"
But actually, mr Neal. It still is somewhat of a fault if they continu through a green light without making absolutely sure they can continu.
Isn't it?
I hear you say stuff like that all the time.
I'm a cyclist, I'd be more than happy for it to be illegal to use a phone whilst cycling.
But the police aren't currently taking much action on drivers using their phones and even when they do, most near me are issued with warning (you got away with it!) letters for phone use, so I doubt any law change would have any effect.
It is in the UK. The offence is Careless Cycling. Problem is that its not being used. There's no explicit law that says its illegal. I had a long talk with a police inspector this morning about cyclists and this was part of it. He thinks he can get some trial prosecutions. That leads to publicity and hopefully it can be nipped in the bud.
@@adenwellsmith6908 Hi Nigel.
(sorry, bad joke i guess)
Anyways, keep dreaming.
It looks like over half of those cyclists were on hire bikes, so not regular cyclists, but doesn't Lime require all hirers to have a driving licence ?
No, lime requires id, it doesn't have to be a driving license.
1:10 true that's a bad place to turn around, but all the more reason for anyone, especially a cyclist, to hold back and wait for the unpredictable person to finish making their mistakes.
I am amazed by the number of people who see something reversing, and think, "I should go behind it right now"
$350 fine for using a mobile whilst cycling in NSW. Australia.
Australia is possibly the most dangerous country in the world to cycle in. A place to be avoided.
1:28, may not be the best place but once the BMW turns we can see the traffic was held up so not time was lost. 2:36, rod narrows and cammer still pulls out, were they responsible for hat happened?
I don't think the BMW slowed anybody down when he turned around, because the lights down the road were luckily on red (Not that the cyclist cared, he ran the red anyway)
Quick one ... did you ever post the answers to the 3 top worst videos from that previous video? Just wanted to know your thoughts.
2:35 "a little bit of a control issue"? Do you think?
3:15 driving involves risks, you need to be aware of those risks.
2:42 I'd also say the fella may have just committed a hit and run if he's just rode off
If only the 🤡🤡 featured on this vid had a similar level of training to the Dog shown in your earlier YT short.
However, suffice to say that Rover has an advantage.....
S/he does not get distracted by a Mobile phone 📱.
However..... If Tiddles the 🙀 Cat rocked up....... I dare not predict the outcome 😮.
TLDR - Make 📱 use ILLEGAL for ALL Road Users.
2:33 why did that driver pull out and drive straight at an oncoming cyclist, appalling!
4:15 why did the driver not check their mirrors before setting off!
Those at most risk should take most care.
Ashley can be hilarious sometimes and I agree with many of the criticisms here, but it is necessary to understand the mechanics of cycling to understand why cyclists do some of the things they do even if you don't agree with them. I don't in most of these cases.
For one rental bikes are quite heavy and slow to get started which accounts for why many of their users tend to jump red lights. Coming to a complete stop and trying to pick up speed with heavier vehicles close alongside you can be quite dangerous and with those heavier rental bikes you "will" wobble if you don't have CycleGaz power. They also charge by the minute and waiting at those red lights does cost money🤔🤔🙄🙄
4:35 The rider with the girl on the back did the right thing, which was to slow down and try to go without stopping after accounting for pedestrians. Stopping with the girl behind and starting off with cars accelerating alongside would have even been more dangerous as they could easily wobble into the path of the cars. Of course he shouldn't have picked her up, but even on his own it would have been a bit of a problem. I don't know about Netherlands law on riding pinion, but they seem to do that quite easily because of their separated bike lanes and driver attitudes.
0:00 The same thing applies to the first clip of the cyclist who went round the pedestrian. He noticed the pedestrian, slowed down with the intention of going round behind but picked up when the pedestrian decided to run. Again trying to pick up speed when the lights go green with heavier vehicles accelerating alongside in that narrow space is just not smart. He even had to ride out of the saddle with greater wobbling just get up to speed because the road was going uphill then. His intention would have been to get ahead and take a proper position ahead before the red lights went green as the roads tend to narrow after leaving intersections.
2:02 The guy new what he was doing. Dropped bars, proper cycling jacket with rear elastic pockets, hi viz? Probably experienced and skilled at one-handed riding. He was fine. He dropped into the road at a shallow angle knowing that drivers don't drive up against the kerb. He was most certainly aware of what was going on around him.
0:25 The guy going through the roadworks was also fine. Most roads are wide enough to accommodate a vehicle and a cyclist, and this case is not much different from one-way streets with counterflow cycling if the oncoming vehicles are accommodating. He could also hop onto the kerb if a wide vehicle like a truck came through. It wasn't wise though.
Most of these issues are down to inadequate cycling infrastructure. Lack of properly segregated bike lanes, ie not painted lines with or without plastic bollards is the main issue here.
Technically speaking, coming to a complete stop on a bike actually means falling of the bike and using your leg to brace the fall, and cyclists do their best to avoid that in tight spaces if it will result in impatient drivers accelerating and overtaking them from behind on the green lights.
Ashley needs to do some more riding on acoustic push bikes rather than the electric push bikes he loves which make riding away on the green lights much easier. That will result in a better understanding of some of these behaviours and if more drivers rode bicycles as well they would too.
As far drivers not being allowed to do the stuff cyclists get away with that's simple. Motor vehicles weigh up to 44 tonnes and can easily accelerate to the 30mph urban street limit, a speed which few commuter cyclists are able to reach let alone sustain.
Mechanics of cycling my arse. It's a bunch of entitled twats who think they're too special to stop at lights, obey one way streets et c. If you don't want to obey the law, stay off the roads. (and no, that doesn't mean cycle on non-shared footpaths.)
agree - a whole load of nothing here really
@@squicker You should read the first paragraph properly. In fact read the whole thing properly and avoid the selective quoting you use to make your point.
The main point here is that British cycling infrastructure sucks, which causes people who are inclined to be law abiding to break the law to make themselves safer. Take the guy at 0:00. If there was an ASL there, most riders would be content to get to it and stop. And if its lights allowed a 10-15 sec start for bicycles before changing for motor vehicles that would even be better. Note that the road goes uphill in that direction.
Ashley goes on and on about bad cycling but never talks about bad govt attitudes and the consequent execrable infrastructure.
The law is the law at the end of the day.
Although I laugh when ppl whinge about cyclists being selfish / inconsiderate - whilst they haul 4 empty seats around and spew exhaust fumes.
I don't think U-turns should be performed on busy streets where other traffic will be held up, I see it particularly outside of schools where parents only seem to be concerned about the well-being of their own children, and don't give a damn about other children in the vicinity.
Without registration numbers the law cannot apply to cyclists
2:25 no lack of control there, they were just negotiating whether to pass in front or behind the oncoming vehicle. A cyclist will always prefer to pass behind, seemed fine to me.
02:50 And did the cyclist leave a note on the car for the damage? Nope. Hit and Run.
Some of these cyclists will not have a driving licence and probably never read the highway code.
They don't bother stopping at red lights, don't look behind or signal, assuming that it is fully the car drivers responsibility to keept them safe , not themselves. If we look at the cyclist that didnt know he was being followed, he turned right without bothering to signal.
Your reply makes it sound like these issues are solely caused by cyclists. I have had vehicles damaged in the past by other drivers when unattended. Did any of these drivers leave a note? No.
I see many, many examples of poor driving every day by drivers who have blatantly not read the highway code for years. The most recent changes seem to have been ignored by most, if not all drivers around where I live.
I've had my wing mirror smashed off while parked on the road, reasonable to assume by another motorist. No note was left.
Also I've seen plenty of cars make turns without indicating, let's not pretend that it's only cyclists who fail to do that sometimes.
If these cyclists ride like this - you can imagine that is also how they drive......
So what your saying is, its a go job there not too many cyclist given the appaulling attitued to road safety from the majority of motorists
There simply cannot be a system where one set of road users is allowed to behave how they please and have to be 'looked after' by everyone else. Implement laws which make it possible to prosecute cyclists (and enforce them) and a lot of this behaviour would stop.
1:32 it's East Street in Taunton - it's a very stupid place to turn round.
They could go a couple of 100m forward and go round a roundabout and come back up the street.
But the sort of halfwit who parks on the wrong side of the road wouldn't think about that either. 🙄
‘The cycling infrastructure needs to be improved’ Ok, yes it almost certainly does need to be improved but what are we going to do about the significant proportion of ‘cyclists’ misusing the existing infrastructure as it is? You know, the contingent whom seem to think that the rules and highway code doesn’t apply to them and go about in complete freestyle with minimal consideration for anyone else be it motorised road traffic or pedestrians on the pavement.
Quite right to call out cyclists on the phone. Making it illegal will have the same impact as it has done woth drivers: almost none. A large number of people use phknes will driving
I don't understand your last comment on most cyclists being adults, therefore bike infrastructure shouldn't be improved?
need a video on electric scooter riders. Most seem to be young kids with zero road sense.
One thing to note. Cyclists are the most vulnerable road users because they are forced to share the road with speeding multitonne vehicles. Pedestrians are less vulnerable because they are on the pavement most of the time.
60% of my 30mile ride yesterday was on track that speeding multitonne vehicles were not allowed to use. I felt quite safe cruising along at 12mph
I don't think I agree with making phone use itself illegal, all of these situations already come under due care and attention.
If I have to check my maps or the time, there's no head unit or noise isolation so fully hands-free systems are less feasible. I do usually pull over, but this is almost identical to eg stopping at a light, I'd rather talk about whether I'm inattentive/inconsiderate/dangerous than whether I'm 'driving' at that moment. Given red light _jumping_ enforcement I imagine they would only care about those cases anyway.
You should get a watch. They're fierce handy for telling the time.
if you really need to hear because you can't see the mounted screen when using sat nav, use ear buds. there no need to take a phone out the pocket and hold it whilst moving in traffic.
@@doverken8448 Using a mounted screen still takes your eyes off the road and hands off the bars, I meant microphone interaction. Ear buds would also reduce my awareness, and I don't want turn-by-turn directions, just occasional reorientation or to check a roundabout. I don't really use it while moving, but I do use it at traffic lights, which a ban would presumably include.
Anyway my point isn't to justify myself, it's that whatever you do, it's only an issue as far as it affects attention to the road, consideration to other road users, and other things which are already codified in law.
@@speedstyle. a dashboard and passangers will also take your eyes off the road, its down to an individual to know when its safe to do so.