Why is this So Expensive?
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And sure enough
What is the reel called
@Elijah Crowder it's a van Staal x2 series. It's around 850 usd lol
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Am the same but I just use aliexpress
"I'm a stingy scumbag" he says with no shoelaces 😂
He says with 2 big ol glidebaits in his tackle box 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think y’all know how expensive that combo he’s holdin is.
Nahhh he’s actually wearing invisible shoelaces the one in the left costs 5$ and the one in the right costs 2000000$ see if you can tell the difference
@Hocal Lobo how much? What's the specs
“I’m a stingy scumbag when it comes to lures” proceeds to show us his Van Stall X Dark Matter combo which is easily sitting around 1200$ 😂
He can afford it because he is a stingy scumbag when it comes to lures
💀
He said Lures, just lures.
@@TheGlobal747 if I’m spending 1200$ on a combo I think I can justify a 15$ lure. Just my opinion 😂 (that combo really costs over 1k)
@@hocallobo5899 true haha
I’ve had bad luck with the cheap versions of whopper plopper style lures the prop just doesn’t catch water right and sometimes the buoyancy of the lure isn’t quite dialed in either
There are great cheap whopper ploppers out there! Keep looking
The Ozark trails brand one from Walmart works perfectly.
Me too it’s the like the whole thing spins instead of just the propellers
And the hooks on cheap lures are trash.
Ozark trail is nothing compared to the whopper plopper. The action is completely different, and the hooks are trash.
The Jackhammer and the original make different sounds under the water due to blade size difference. Most bass like the more aggressive sound from the jackhammer and will attack it more often than the original chatterbait.
Lol most bass. Is that right? Has nothing to do with time of year or if it was recently caught or any of that right? They always like a more aggressive bait huh?
@@codygooch510 no, not always, hence the the "most" statement. Pay attention. Bass are predatorial and also territorial. If something poses as a threat or as aggressive to them, they will either attack or run. To something the size of a jackhammer, which is very small, a majority of that time it will be "attack". Normal attributes of fishing still apply of course, it's not a magic bait.
This is an except when the jackhammer is the prevailing lure used in the water being fished. I've caught way more on the original but even more when I use my booyah boogie blades that got sued because of copyright infringement even tho they look nothing like it and pulse/thump/vibrate way more than the chatterbait
The Jackhammer is made by Evergreen in Japan under licensing rights.
But the regular 6 dollar chatterbait catches them just as good
Not necessary to spend all that money on it though
They said that's why the evo was created just to get around the licensing abd stuff that's why it's a bit cheaper but real close to the same bait
@tristenboyd2824 the difference in price comes from how it's made. The jackhammer will chatter with the slightest reel or raise of the rod tip. Z man's don't do that. You can literally crawl a jackhammer on the bottom and it'll chatter the entire time. I do still use both but the jackhammer is superior in every aspect. Buy one in your favorite color and throw it for a while. You'll see.
@@TJC-wg9toZ-Man are the ones bumping up the price on the Jackhammers. If you find a Japanese seller who will ship to the states, the Evergreen Jackhammer's are significantly cheaper. Z-Man got Evergreen to sign an exclusive import agreement, specifically so that they could raise the price and make money on them.
The EVO's came out because the import agreement is coming up on it's expiration date, and Evergreen will be able to just sell them themselves in the US again
Nobody gonna mention that it’s called the “chatterbait” LMAO
No.
LMAO
What
A man of culture I see🤝
***Chatterdonk
I agree about the jackhammers. I fished a tournament last year where I had the regular $5 chatterbait and my partner had the jackhammer and he outfished me 4:1. I picked some jackhammers up for this season and you really can tell a significant difference. Wish they weren’t so expensive tho!
Try the new Evo ones. Zman makes those without having to partner with that Japanese company. So just as good and half the price.
“And sure enough”
You are not him lil bro
@@Mnwildlifehe uses the comments dumbass
I think it might be because they can make money off the cheap one and just bonus money if you buy the expensive one, thanks for putting me Up! Made a short about it 😂😮😊
Jackhammer is the only vibrating jig that you can actually slow roll on the bottom without it dying. It also comes with better hardware.
@@BenPat88
You're one of the few I've heard say that. Jackhammer is worth the price in my opinion
@@BenPat88 yeaaaah I doubt that. I smash them on jackhammers all the time. Now, the cheaper chatterbaits I can’t say the same. They’re just junk.
@@joshuaunderwood6703 ok well I don’t give a f what you think bud why the hell would I lie on a stupid video comment section? Maybe I got one that has a defect or something but I can assure you I have caught exactly zero fish after hours of use and have caught dozens of fish on cheap chatters over the years so…piss off if you don’t like it and next time you want to share ur opinion instead just move on, as no one really cares what you think anyway. I know you wouldn’t call me a liar to my face you little punk but I’m sure you feel like a real tough guy on UA-cam comments.
Temu sells a chatter for 2.78 that is built just like Jack hammer and swims just as good
Spend $15 bucks just to get it snagged a day later I think I'm good lol
I used to get pop-ups for this lure all the time, but it wasn't spelled the same way.
Ah man I just can’t justify the price. Like getting snagged on your first cast that’s 15 bucks down the hole
Chase that down
@@Tallnerdyguy bust your ass into the water to save that jackhammer 💪
@@kunaiwithchain5278exactly. Always fish in shorts and flip flops/water shoes. So many free lures if you wade out, or you just unsnag your own!
Come try some musky fishing. A very cheap lure is $20. I was just snorkeling a few days ago lol
You're damn right about the cheaper versions being equal in most ways, so I can only trust that I should fork out the money for it
I'm a novice bass hunter. This past season was my second ever. My rookie season was dope. Bass fishing has been a dream of mine for decades. Let's just say I spent some time in some nasty places. This past season I brought in a solid 3Lb bucketmouth. Towards the end of the season I got my first largemouth on a frog. Things got serious when I committed to using crankbaits, exclusively. Some of the heavy hitters that I talk to told me that I am actually accruing some skill when I can keep up the action with the crankbaits. To handicap things against myself (to really learn and earn hard), I've only fished one small body of water, from only one 30 yard stretch of the bank. Your channel is very encouraging. I appreciate you logging your experience. Rock steady.
Dude wtf are you talking about
The main selling point for Jackhammers is: hand/wire tired skirt that won't come off or rot in storage, better hook, better snap, and a design that hunts (kicks out) while also vibrating faster once hitting the water.
This is why I love using Creme lures… costs nothing but works very well, especially the original scoundrel worm they have.
Bro CREME lures are the best by a long shot
Especially for panfish, their bluegill and crappy lures work so good.
The customs which are $7-$9 are very comparable to the jack hammers. Just less durable and a slightly lighter wire hook. I caught my pb largie just under 8lbs on one. Definitely would recommend them to you. Also the mini max is fire if you run a scented jerk shad as a trailer.
My pb was on a mini max with a geecrack bellow stick. Mini max is 🔥
It was neat to see you holding a Zara spook. When I was a kid, we used to make that Lure out of cut sections of broom sticks, or dowels, but, anyhow, we carved em, painted em, and caught fish, and then, later saw the commercial made lure.. I've used both, hand made and Actual Zara spooks, and both work equally well, but the hand made bait, built by me, is just so much more satisfying.
I 1000% agree with the assessment of the jackhammer. I dont know exactly what makes it different. Ive inspected both the original chatterbait and the jackhammer. Ive even swapped the blades. The only thing i havent done is swapped the connector that you tie to out. But whatever it is...the jackhammer is the only thing that i will buy the "expensive lure". And if im fishing in new waters ill throw something cheap to feel around the bottom before i throw it so i can more confidently throw it without too much fear of losing one. Even though bladed jigs are honestly kind of hard to snag and lose.
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Ok but why? Why is the price difference so high? You didn't explain other than, "You throw them around and begin to notice where the differences are". WHAT difference?
The hardware is all much higher quality. Much heavier wire hooks, the snaps are made of nickel, the skirt is hand tied, and the start-up time is the biggest difference, though. A normal chatterbait takes a few feet to fully get going. A jackhammer will start as soon as you start reeling. When you put it right next to a bass, those couple of seconds difference make all the difference. The jackhammer is conceivably better in every way, but I get not wanting to spend 16-20 bucks on a lure. Get a minimax, half the price, same thick hook, smaller profile, so more likely to get bit, and it can be up to a half ounce.
For those of us that have purchased both you definitely see the difference. Like how the lures last longer, the shinier luster, the way it swims and reacts when popping it. I believe companies do this so they can capture both markets. It's just that the higher priced ones are dialed in for that sport fisherman.
I use the thunder cricket and have consistently caught 4lb spotted bass with it. The vibration the bills make is next level
Not only is it a premium quality hook, but the blade is made differently; a Jackhammer can be made to vibrate at much slower retrieves than a standard Chatterbait, making it an excellent cold water bait.
I’m a low key supporter of Walmart lures😂
I caught a 6.5 lb large mouth back in August. I was using the perch looking Pure Poison chatter bait. A 6.5 lb bass in the PNW is a pretty decent fish. My pb is 7.3 lb,caught that on a jig about 5 years ago. I tend to buy the more expensive lures,especially spinner baits. They just seem to have better action than the cheaper ones. And line, ya gotta have good line. Don't cheap out on that. Reels, I have a bunch. Lew's,AbuGarcia,Shimano. My favorite rod is St Croix Mojo Yak. For the spinning reel and The Falcon Low Rider for the casting rod.
All right I just want to comment on this video. He is absolutely right. As a Chatterbait fisherman there is a big difference between the Z-Man lineup. I personally go with the cross eyes because of the wire weed guard. And I fish heavy vegetation and around wood. This to me is the best one in the lineup just because it's the most versatile. That being said if this was not an option yes I would buy all jackhammers. And Mini Max. But IMO The only two that you need to buy are the cross eyes and the minimax. Trust me I have well over 200 different zman Chatterbaits
As a person who pirates every movie imaginable… THE FUCK IS IT CALLED?
No need to swear!
I caught a 2 lb trout today just got done fileting it
Awful proud of ya buddy!
The jackhammer is completely worth it. My favorite is the green pumpkin blade and skirt with a white fluke I've caught so many bass with it.
And sure enough 🐟🐠🐟
Van stall for freshwater?
You know how salty and sandy those local lakes can get
I've had both and have had way more bites from the jackhammer than a regular chatterbait
Still a big differences between lures. I got a pike on a rapala . First fish and the lure was leaking water. I rather buy a little more exspensive lures than a lure which can catch only one fish
“And sure enough” - day 3
I experience this for the chatterbait. It’s a big bass magnet. You may only catch 2-3 fish every hour or more but the fish you catch are majority of the time 3+ pounds and I’d catch half the fish if I wasn’t using a jack hammer and I notice the cheap ones that work rust way quicker
Lol I made this comment from only watching 5 seconds and you mentions about the exact thing
I was legit typing a rant about how the jackhammer is different from any other chatterbait and then you pulled it up 🤣. It’s literally at night and day difference from all other chatterbaits
A lot of times the hooks and components are a big part of the price difference.. pros are on record saying the jackhammer won't really get you more bites but they will land more fish due to the lure design and type of hook/gap
I’ve been using a slobberknocker 1/2oz black/blue with matching spunkshad trailer and haven’t caught anything. Tie on an identical Jackhammer black/blue 1/2oz matching spunkshad trailer and 1st cast fish.!! I normally wait till I find jackhammer on sale and buy a dozen.
I believe each individual bait at each individual size should be analyzed for effectiveness. One crankbait or worm might get you way more bites over another thats exactly the same weight/color from a different company. You might even get way more bites just by lightening up/putting on heavier weight
I've noticed that when I have caught them on the stealth the hook is normally ALL the way in there mouth. It's like they don't think twice when they hit the stealth. Maybe because it's a smaller profile. Idk
My dad and I usually toss a $2-$3 rooster tail and catch at least something. From a 5oz Bluegill to a 4lb Channel Catfish, rooster tail has never failed us.
Temu is my best friend when it comes to lures so cheap
I hear ya so much man! I use to need to wait and get lucky with Canadian Tire having sales occasionally but now I can just stroll into the Dollorama store 2 blocks away and get around 2-3 times the stuff and for comparable quality to Canadian Tire.
Can't get fishing rods there though so... (Lucky for me I scored an $80 Shakespeare 7 foot outcast Rod for 38.99 in the
Discount bin because the reel was missing its handle. No biggie, hopped onto eBay and got a replacement reel handle for 4 bucks! Whoo!)
the jackhammer does a few things in terms of movement that the original does not, it also starts that chattering faster. however, there is also the chatterbait elite evo that is $10 and is like 95% of the way to that same standard as the jackhammer, and even has a nicer trailer keeper. So the evo is the one I buy most often. HOWEVER, the vast majority of my catches so far have been from taking a black/blue original chatterbait and slow rolling it with a craw trailer. It just plain works and is like $5. but my biggest bite has been on a chatterbait mini max funny enough.
Same thing when comparing any jerkbait to Megabass. Nothing comes close to Megabass with jerkbaits.
Anyone gonna say how he’s casually wearing shoes with no laces 😂😂
One of your biggest differences is the jackhammer start vibrating immediately and is a bit more erratic, it just works better then the orginal IMO
I’m normally very stingy about paying too much for things but I will say, a GOOD chatterbait is def worth the extra money. The good ones start the wobble very quick and easy, while a cheaper one doesn’t start as fast, and you have to pull harder to get it to start which can sometimes cost you a bite since I’ve had many bites right when the lure first hits the water and starts to move.
And the cheaper ones tend to need to stay faster to keep the wobble going where a lot of cheap ones will still wobble really good at very slow speeds.
to be fair that 2 dollar fishing lure actually looks like a frog and the other looks like a custom piece someone sold for 10 bucks on etsy cuz people are always looking for whacky lures to throw to see if theyll hook up. its good content for the creator and good business for the lure maker lol
based on looking at the jackhammer vs. its counterpart id say you could salvage a blade off an old piece to improve it because unless its weighted differently the only variation seems to be the clear chatterblade, its size which would alter its action in the water and a slight variation in color (blue accents on the jack).
rule of thumb for me is throw bright and light when you know theyre feeding and throw natural and darks when theyre not. in general fish are indescriminate when hungry and work fast to outcompete but will only bite on "realistic" natural lures when theyre not. realize this is prolly not everyones experience but based on mine its what ive concluded and what works lol
Bros worried about expensive lures, but he’s casting them on a $1000 combo😂
Bait : eat me
Fish : ok
I fish a clear water res and they won’t react to chatter baits much . However every time it rains hard and the water gets merky I’ll throw one and catch bigs. Love it !
The fact you’re throwing a chatterbait on spinning gear has me tuning in!
I had a few lores years ago from a company called " mega bass " now they don't make the lores I'm talking about anymore , and it's a real shame ! Now they were $20 a piece in the late 90's ! Now these lores turned every day at a lake into a fishing derby for me and my friends , constantly seeing who could catch more ! So long story aside , yes , sometimes it justifies that price . That being said my largest bass in PA. Was almost 15 lbs. And I caught it on a plastic worm ! Lol.
The real shame is,that you and I both know darned well that's nothing but,one hell of a (mega bad) "fish story" you just told us pal. And any angler worth his salt,knows mega bass, has never,made any type of fishin lores,let alone get $20 a lore in the 90's! Or ever,at any point in time. Throughout the complete and entire history of fishing,both commercial and recreational. And unless you caught that "15 lb. Pa. bass" from the pond at the 🦄 ranch I work on,or it was of the striped variety,(in which case 15lbs.is nowhere in the ballpark of being one of those mega bass of "lore") all WE have caught here is one helluva "mega ass!" 🎣
PS,
PA. state record largemouth bass is only 11lbs.some odd ounces.(I think 4oz. can't 100% for certain recall the exact oz.'s right now) but Pa. state record is under 12lbs.and well under 15lbs.. Not sure if it was taken on live bait or some kind of artificial LURE.
@@PorchHonkey shallow runner lores . $ 19.99 a piece . And I have pictures of my fish and witnesses. Now I don't kill fish , especially for something as shallow as a record . So go back into your hole ! Can't believe you have nothing better to do . Oh yeah , cowards love this anonymous shit ! Do your research next time douchebag.
@@PorchHonkey you're sort of right about state record , yet locals catch em out of season all day bigger than that , and they make the paper so like I said research before you throw your worthless opinion in !
@@PorchHonkey did you even look up the price of these lores ? I didn't think so . They are still in that price range and it wasn't a striped bass . Now honestly I don't know why the record is so small , I've crushed 11 pd 3 oz. On the regular. Make you look foolish any day as well .
@@onemancarnage Your talking about the thing that you tie to the end of your fishing line to attract fish?
i found that 10 dollar frog today while fishing score
When I hear that first line what I hear is “tell me you know nothing about fishing and never catch fish without telling me.”
Ain't nothing wrong with stinginess the best lure in my box is a three dollar Ozark trail jerk bait
I throw $40 bucktail and $50+ glide bait for muskie. $15 lure is nothing. If you tournament fish, you'll understand you'll have to pay premium for good baits that can produce.
I 100% agree it’s worth it, tho I get the strike king thunder cricket. The TC Is like 12$ and works just as great
I conquer EVERYTHING with a Lews Speed Spool and Gator Wire with a 7’ rod . BEAST
Jackhammers are made by Evergreen … They are a premium JDM company, with a USDM distribution… with the Jackhammer distributed by Zman, they are not made by Zman
Rooster tail vs ozark trail spinners.....go with rooster tails.
finally someone caught a bass without damn near ripping the hook out the mouth, i get it, the mouth of a bass is harder than that of a carp but unless ur using a blunt bit of rebar as a hook u do not need to set the hook as hard as u physically can, putting like ur whole body weights of force into it, calm down everyone
I have the cheaper and more expensive frogs because I'm the same way in the cheaper ones sink and hold water a lot more
“And sure enough” 💀💀💀💀
If you're fishing for bass, you could literally take any small and shiny household item and add a hook. So Sure, go cheap for bass. But pike or other large predatory fish, you're going to want to pay for better lures. They swim and perform better. I've had lures swim funny because they're off balance. I've also had cheap lures straight up brrak under the pressure of a 10+lb pike. He got off and when I reeled it in I noticed both treble hooks snaps right off
Some cheap lures are great, but some pricier lures are that way for a reason. I like a heavier frog, so that’s why I don’t like the cheap ones. Same reason I like a senko over a dinger 🤷🏻♂️
in my experience when buying lures if you get the cheapest option they just dont really work (ie spinners that dont spin) and the most expensive option will noticably catch more fish but the 3x price USUALLY isnt worth it
cheap doller store versions usually have cheap hooks that don't hold a point, and the paint chips off the lures, or the lip breaks off, or the snaps open up, etc etc, you get what you pay for - don't support the cheap stuff, or they will make more of it.
Ozark trail is goated. After fishing for bullseye snakehead religiously in south Florida, I’ve had plenty of my gs frogs ripped apart after one catch. I’ve went through 70$ worth of them in a single day.. went to Walmart, bought 10 so 25ish bucks and it hurt a lot less when it got destroyed
I've bought that $2 frog and I have multiple googan frogs. I no longer have the $2 because the leg strings fell out after about 5 days of fishing. The googan ones are still going to strong.
Difference between the jackhammer and the original chatterbait better hook, hand tied skirt, better bait keeper, better paint on head of jig, stainless steel blade vs pot metal. Jackhammer makes a different more aggressive vibration against head of jig. They both have there place also you were using the “stealth blade” not the jackhammer. Completely different lure. Also the connection of the blade to the jig head itself is different.
I can go to a garage sale and buy a ton of good bass lures for a few bucks. For new stuff rubbers are the biggest rip off. A brand name senko vs a knock off... no difference. Or just buy some worms and tie a worm harness or catch a bluegill and use as bait.
To me crankbaits are the best investment. A good rapala for 8 or 10 bucks swims better than a cheap knock off.
Depends on the kind of lure. Some quality goes further than others. Many cases your paying for confidence in the lure. May fish it better if you believe it will get the bite.
The jackhammer is made by zman AND evergreen. Brett hite helped design it. The reason its 15$ is because it starts to thump instantly when reeled in. Also, buying knockoffs isnt good. Theres a reason for a higher price tag. Someone spent a lot of time building the lures. Nishine is the best example of this. Hiroshi spends like 10 years just designing his lures. And even then he restarts if something is even 1 degree off. #supporttheOG's
"And sure enough"
He actually has a van staal on a freshwater setup
Sometimes we need that few expensive stuff in our fishing set (me with my $12 rod and $129 reel and a box of $1-$2 lures)
I have a hard time justifying and lure over $10. There’s so much rock and wood in the waters I fish that I’d go broke trying to replace everything I lose. It’s one thing breaking off a Power Worm that comes in a pack of 12 for $5. It’s another to do the same with a $15 Jackhammer
Glad you had that arrow! Might have missed it 😅😮
The top water popper made by rebel sold at walmart is a elite series top water lure
Yeah, I use a chatter bait like that and I’ve caught a four pounder bash and a bunch of crappie and it’s amazing. I just keep buying them when I lose them.
"I'm stingy" says the man with s-wavers
The other chatter was the Stealth. It has a plastic blade and makes a completely different noise under water.
Can confirm. Knockoff rattle traps don't work quite as well. Baby rattle traps are where it's at.
That's "$2" lure appears to be a $12 lunkerhunt frog if I'm not mistakened. I've gone through countless frogs. I'd be interested if there's a 2 dollar version that looks so close to the og one
Berkley has a chatter bait out now that is still really good but for a decent bit cheaper. The jackhammer has a better start up time but I’d say for the price to value ratio the berkley takes the w. Plus berkley has some really cool colors that the jackhammer doesn’t
That’s the next shirt “ I’m A Stingie Scumbag “ We All Need Love 😂😂😂
"sir you're a dollar short"
Him: "aight bet, have my shoelaces"
Jackhammers start their vibration almost instantly when you start reeling. That’s why they are top dollar! ❤❤
when catching Australian bass, you use jitterbugs.
Usually with top water I typically lean for the more expensive side because cheap ones tend to fill up with water
Technically the jackhammer is made by evergreen too… so they have to pay both companies. That’s why it’s so expensive.
I think paying 8-10$ for frogs is crazy. I’ll buy the cheapy or a few of them straighten hooks push it to get water out before I buy a 10$ frog.
Today I caught my first bass!
never had a skirt come apart, the head is compact, the hook and bait keeper are top quality, the line clip to tie onto will hold up to the biggest fish you will hook on any chatterbait. theres a reason jackhammers are everyones go to
Jackhammer has a faster start up speed for target casting
The hammer is just too good