A netgear Nighthawk paired with the 2x2 mimo panel antenna like the one you had from rfi will ALWAYS provide a much better service then through a celfi unit. Reasons: Celfis can only boost one channel frequency - while the nighthawk can use carrier aggregation to combine multiple frequencies. Celfi have a limited bandwidth that can pass through the unit of 20Mhz while some tower locations have much greater bandwidth available Lastly the MIMO vs SISO using yagi antenna vs a panel antenna .. the panel has two connections so it can easily be understood that you will get a 10-20% improvement with the extra diversity antenna. It also has a much wider signal so is great in trees or with hills where the signal bounces off in random directions. I'm a telecommunications engineer
If you work for Telstra you will know that 80% your towers in regional and remote areas (where Cel-fi’s are used the most) are configured for 700-800MHz 4G with 20MHz of bandwidth. So it’s not like using a nighthawk with an overpriced antenna is providing any advantage over a Celfi especially when you consider that you have to pay for a stupid data plan and if you want to let others use it you have to give them the wifi password and tell them not to use a lot of data. And I gotta say Optus is so much better than Telstra in regional and remote areas. Provided that they have a tower in the area, which they usually do.
@KieranMahoney incorrect information, but I'm sure it made you feel better getting your opinion out there. A mimo antenna is the way to go to provide affordable internet in rural areas or a starlink service. Newer towers generally have better equipment but trying to suggest optus or Vodafone have towers in regional Australia is a joke and country people know that. Unfortunately there are alot of armchair commentary from non experts when it comes to telecommunications in Australia
I never stated vodafone have towers in regional areas. vodafone is a joke. optus and telstra are the only providers that are expanding and rolling out new technology. In my comment I made it clear that optus doesnt have towers in alot of regional and remote communities that telstra does... Im not denying it, im a telstra customer myself and ill ALWAYS be one, because of other reasons. but ive been running dual sim using optus for a couple months now and ive been many places and not only do they have better coverage, they have way faster speeds. take koah in FNQ for instance, telstra has a tower in the centre of town while optus is on the side of the highway a couple of k's away, but they still have better coverage and better speeds, because they deploy more frequencies and have more capacity! you mentioned carrier aggregation in your original comment so i know you understand it, please tell me how is telstras ONE BAND of low freq 4G better than optus' 7 frequencies of 4G. If you still can’t reason with that than you shouldn’t be working in telecommunications you should be working for Vodafone. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of armchair commentary from out of touch people like. @tmillerau
@@tmillerau anyways Telstra needs to step up their game on regional and remote sites, from what I’ve seen during their 2 week upgrade period they usually switch on a couple extra 4G bands usually for 4GX but in most towns it’s a lucky dip with the 5G as to whether you get mid or low band. Since you work for telstra do you know if their waiting for the 3G spectrum refarm to switch on low band in the areas with only mid band 5G. Or will it have to get fixed 16 years from now when 6G goes regional
This is very valuable information. Thank you. If 2X2 MIMO antenna is good, would 4X4 be better? Would you please recommend something for mobile hotspots?
I use a teltonic router with the RFI mimo flat panel antenna you had using high quality coax to connect them, but I set the phone to wifi calling. Works very well for calls and data...A cell fi go adds another $1000 for the same outcome...
Youll have to do this clip again you didnt mention that you have to plug the net gear into the antenna via the ts9 ports. not everyone knows about the hidden antenna connections.. mine dosnt do band 28 though which is the band you want for remote places
another thing for the phone on a pole, before you send it up out of reach, quickly turn your mobile data (or airplane mode) OFF, then back ON phones will attempt to continue to use the currently connected 4g/LTE data connection until the signal completely drops. by default, they will not automatically switch "down" to a 3g network while they have ANY 4g/LTE signal, even if there is a strong 3g signal present. by turning your connection Off then back On, your phone will attempt to open a new, potentially stronger connection (different frequency bands have different coverage areas, phones will usually choose a higher frequency band due to higher data speeds, even if the signal is worse or nearly non existent), or in some cases if the 4g/lte signal is too weak to initialize a reconnection, it will connect to 3g which while slower, has a much larger coverage area than 4g ✌
what is your opinion on boosting a 5G fixed wireless connection? been having problems with my ISP for years trying to get a technician out. was thinking a BYO dish, duel in duel out, but would the isp allow me to transmit through it?
A netgear Nighthawk paired with the 2x2 mimo panel antenna like the one you had from rfi will ALWAYS provide a much better service then through a celfi unit.
Reasons:
Celfis can only boost one channel frequency - while the nighthawk can use carrier aggregation to combine multiple frequencies.
Celfi have a limited bandwidth that can pass through the unit of 20Mhz while some tower locations have much greater bandwidth available
Lastly the MIMO vs SISO using yagi antenna vs a panel antenna .. the panel has two connections so it can easily be understood that you will get a 10-20% improvement with the extra diversity antenna. It also has a much wider signal so is great in trees or with hills where the signal bounces off in random directions.
I'm a telecommunications engineer
If you work for Telstra you will know that 80% your towers in regional and remote areas (where Cel-fi’s are used the most) are configured for 700-800MHz 4G with 20MHz of bandwidth. So it’s not like using a nighthawk with an overpriced antenna is providing any advantage over a Celfi especially when you consider that you have to pay for a stupid data plan and if you want to let others use it you have to give them the wifi password and tell them not to use a lot of data. And I gotta say Optus is so much better than Telstra in regional and remote areas. Provided that they have a tower in the area, which they usually do.
@KieranMahoney incorrect information, but I'm sure it made you feel better getting your opinion out there.
A mimo antenna is the way to go to provide affordable internet in rural areas or a starlink service.
Newer towers generally have better equipment but trying to suggest optus or Vodafone have towers in regional Australia is a joke and country people know that.
Unfortunately there are alot of armchair commentary from non experts when it comes to telecommunications in Australia
I never stated vodafone have towers in regional areas. vodafone is a joke. optus and telstra are the only providers that are expanding and rolling out new technology.
In my comment I made it clear that optus doesnt have towers in alot of regional and remote communities that telstra does... Im not denying it, im a telstra customer myself and ill ALWAYS be one, because of other reasons. but ive been running dual sim using optus for a couple months now and ive been many places and not only do they have better coverage, they have way faster speeds. take koah in FNQ for instance, telstra has a tower in the centre of town while optus is on the side of the highway a couple of k's away, but they still have better coverage and better speeds, because they deploy more frequencies and have more capacity! you mentioned carrier aggregation in your original comment so i know you understand it, please tell me how is telstras ONE BAND of low freq 4G better than optus' 7 frequencies of 4G.
If you still can’t reason with that than you shouldn’t be working in telecommunications you should be working for Vodafone.
Unfortunately, there’s a lot of armchair commentary from out of touch people like. @tmillerau
@@tmillerau anyways Telstra needs to step up their game on regional and remote sites, from what I’ve seen during their 2 week upgrade period they usually switch on a couple extra 4G bands usually for 4GX but in most towns it’s a lucky dip with the 5G as to whether you get mid or low band. Since you work for telstra do you know if their waiting for the 3G spectrum refarm to switch on low band in the areas with only mid band 5G. Or will it have to get fixed 16 years from now when 6G goes regional
This is very valuable information. Thank you. If 2X2 MIMO antenna is good, would 4X4 be better? Would you please recommend something for mobile hotspots?
I live in a new suburb with very bad reception. I think this will be great. Thank you for putting this together.
Great information, thanks guys 👍
I totally love tool junkies. This was a fun video!
I use a teltonic router with the RFI mimo flat panel antenna you had using high quality coax to connect them, but I set the phone to wifi calling. Works very well for calls and data...A cell fi go adds another $1000 for the same outcome...
Youll have to do this clip again you didnt mention that you have to plug the net gear into the antenna via the ts9 ports. not everyone knows about the hidden antenna connections.. mine dosnt do band 28 though which is the band you want for remote places
another thing for the phone on a pole, before you send it up out of reach, quickly turn your mobile data (or airplane mode) OFF, then back ON
phones will attempt to continue to use the currently connected 4g/LTE data connection until the signal completely drops.
by default, they will not automatically switch "down" to a 3g network while they have ANY 4g/LTE signal, even if there is a strong 3g signal present.
by turning your connection Off then back On, your phone will attempt to open a new, potentially stronger connection (different frequency bands have different coverage areas, phones will usually choose a higher frequency band due to higher data speeds, even if the signal is worse or nearly non existent), or in some cases if the 4g/lte signal is too weak to initialize a reconnection, it will connect to 3g which while slower, has a much larger coverage area than 4g ✌
Thanks for that tip, I will give it a go. It's surprising how much better signal you can get by implementing a few simple things. 👍👍
what is your opinion on boosting a 5G fixed wireless connection? been having problems with my ISP for years trying to get a technician out. was thinking a BYO dish, duel in duel out, but would the isp allow me to transmit through it?
What about WiFi calling on ya mobile mate ? Will that work for voice calls . I think it's called "voip" ?
Love ya video mate .
Yeah if it runs from data it should work, though i'm not familiar with "voip" Cheers
@@jnadownunder voice over internet protocol I am pretty sure its called . I have used it at times in remote work sites .